Daredevil & TMNT: The Parody Comic That Ruled The World
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- Опубліковано 21 гру 2021
- An analysis of how Daredevil inspired the parody of Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird's Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, the creation of TMNT #1, and the legacy of both Daredevil and the Turtles. Learn about the origin of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, how Daredevil and TMNT share the same radioactive accident origin, how The Foot Clan and The Hand are the same, the evolution of TMNT through comic books, TV, movies, and more, and how Matt Murdock, Leonardo, Raphael, Michelangelo, and Donatello have changed over the years.
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Music:
"TMNT 4: Turtles In Time" OST
"Mirage" by Mitch Murder
"Daredevil" OST by John Paesano
Sources:
theweek.com/captured/446321/f...
time.com/4351785/teenage-muta...
screenrant.com/teenage-mutant... - Розваги
Happy Darecember, now with 100% more TURTLE POWER! Read the full essay on Comic Book Herald: www.comicbookherald.com/daredevil-tmnt-the-parody-comic-that-ruled-the-world-darecember-3/
This reminds me how much I wanted there to be a Daredevil Crossover with the turtles where Splinter explains the origin of the turtles to Matt and he realizes that in a way his good deed of saving the blind man lead to the creation of 4 heros and that he is sort of welcomed into the family. Could be wholesome.
I would love that, also kinda funny to me theyve crossed over with batman THREE times and not once with daredevil in any official capacity
and spiderman too i mean he’s part of new york
Could be? Would be the only happy thing in Matt’s life that never went wrong on him
Lol
I'd read that story.
The Foot Clan is legit just an objective improvement on The Hand. Way more personality and character than the Hand will ever have. (I think having a consistent face like Shredder is a big part of it.)
The leader is absolutely it. I've always disliked how the Hand lacks a face. Shredder and Karai enrich the Foot by a lot.
@@JusRed48 Another angle on this that occurs to me is that The Foot has a lot more that it intersects with, what with them creating mutants, or relying on outside help from people like Stockman sometimes, or their involvement in street crime. The Hand is always presented as very insular in comparison, and as a result, there's less to be done with them
Banana Rama they try to give the hand a face like Gorgon and elektra but that they fall down as being integral to other story and organization or they redeem
The Hand has never been a major enemy of Daredevil. That's more Kingpin or Bullseye. The Hand is more of a force of nature that gets in Daredevil's way where The Foot are the main antagonists of the turtles so it figures they would have more personality
I would bet any money any random person on the street would more easily recognize the Foot clan than the Hand
I gotta say TMNT might be the perfect franchise. It is the perfect mix of Strreet level, Scifi, martial arts and mysticism. The 2003 was my childhood and will always be my favorite.
Man I watched the whole first 5 pre fast forward seasons of the 2003 this year it actually surprisingly holds up
Fun fact... for me 2003 was NOT my childhood. I grew up with the wisecracking, silly, original cartoon.... and HATED it. For years, as someone who read the original comics, the cartoon always just made me mad. So when the 2003 series started and it was going closer to the original comics origins, I was happy. So the 2003 version is my favorite. Despite already being a full grown adult by that time.
@@the-NightStar imma be dead honest, knowing that you hated a show from your childhood and prefer a future version, just makes me trust your opinion more
Yeah. 2003 might be the best Tmnt tv show, but my favorite tmnt content is the idw tmnt run from 2012- to today.
It also has...
* A family that welcomes outcasts to be part of it.
* Inherent inversion of "man vs monsters".
* A healthy balance between "just minding our own business until someone decides to ask for trouble" and active heroism.
* Some degree of both silliness and seriousness inherent to the premise, that allows writers to find their own sweet spot and even move seamlessly between tones if that's what they're about, and none of it has to feel out of place.
* Heroes often willing to offer their enemies a chance to redeem themselves.
* An ensemble of characters with vastly different personalities, and room to grow and change while retaining the fundamental aspects that make them who they are.
* Fairly flexible origin story.
TMNT, almost accidentally, has enormous storytelling potential and practically endless room for reinterpretation.
I stood next to Kevin Eastman for a few hours during a con to help facilitate things. He eagerly greeted each fan and earnestly listened to their stories for hours on end. It was inspiring to watch.
R.I.P.
@@jamesryder8305 he’s alive
If anybody is interested in reading TMNT comics, the IDW reboot is absolutely great. The Mirage books are super creative but there's a lot and they're not as easy to find.
The Black and white Ultimate collections cover the best of the run, at least volumes 1-5 do
the 2003 series is my era of the turtles. It's also probably the best synthesis of the numerous aspects of the franchise, the right amount of fun and seriousness
also, Scotty Ray is the best Shredder voice. you will never change my mind.
2003 is the one I grew up with and is also my favorite. I feel like they used aspects all over from TMNT at the time while staying true to the mirage comics perfectly. Season 6-7 were a little disappointing on rewatch as they felt so separate in tone and plot from the previous seasons.
Rise is my second favorite, sometimes I just like to put on a show and enjoy some wacky action. The story, while simple is also entertaining.
@@Spiralr yeah, season 6 feels like they wanted to do another show and got rejected. it's pretty much a "season 1" with world building that never goes nowhere outside of a couple plotlines
@@AlessandroAltosoleChannel Funnily enough, 4Kids wanted them to make it a completely different show because season 4 was “too dark”. The network then requested for the TMNT team to tone down the dark tone for season five which was direct to dvd. After season 5, 4Kids requested a soft reboot to make it more kid friendly, which is why season 6 and 7 feel so different.
Yeah that show changed my childhood, fuck we had great taste as kids. We had it so good with these cinematic shows and films
Rise of the TMNT was such an eye-opener for me. I’ve been a fan of this franchise since before I could talk, and when you follow something that long you assume that the best adaptations will be the ones that revere what came before. But Rise throws reverence out in favor of some genuinely fresh takes on the material, and as a result it’s my favorite version of the turtles to date. Nostalgia is a hell of a drug, but a willingness to evolve is what keeps these franchises worth loving long term.
With the movie they got even better
I think there's something poetic that Daredevil stayed in comparative obscurity, whilst the Turtles became household names.
Something about a ninja staying hidden despite it all.
That fits.
Also any fan art where the two meet is appreciated. From edits of the Netflix show to standalone pieces, it never fails to bring a smile to my face and ideas to my mind.
Happy Darecember everyone.
The Nickelodeon 3D animated TMNT was really good for most of its run.
I still can't believe we haven't gotten a DD/TMNT crossover. I need it.
Man, the way the Turtles where created is magical, in a wacky way remembers me of how Ben 10 was created, and that my friends is a franchise i follow for a looooong time
Love this! I’m a huge TMNT fan and seeing how they contrast with DD is so fascinating. Been putting off getting into the IDW series due to lack of free time but this has been a great reminder to jump in!
It's a really solid series and incorporates Japanese spirituality and mythology in interesting ways. IDW has several omnibuses available now that combine their TMNT and all the sidebooks in chronological order. Absolutely worth picking up with any holiday cash you run into this year!
@@warioskapelli3100 Ah, I didn’t even know about the omnibuses, thanks for the heads up! 😊
I have all the IDW series. Their up to #124 already. I really recommend reading the earlier issues on Tpb such as City At War first
Imagine Matt saving that man and not only inadvertently becoming a hero himself but creating 4 teen heroes with hearts of gold as well.
They need to do a TMNT/Daredevil crossover, with both Shredder and Kingpin as the main villains alongside General Krang, The Hand, Bullseye, and/or Rat King.
When I was little, the Turtles were my jam. I nearly wore out my VHS tapes and had far more toys than one boy should. Now, as a grumpy early-30s man, DD is my jam. We're not so different, Mr. Draper.
I have to thank the NES game for leading me to the turtles comic. I was consumed with that image of them in all red bandanas. I was about 5-6 and I asked my mom to ask the comic store near me if they knew anything about it and I really have to think the girl at the counter for dropping a ton of those comics in my lap without telling my parents how dark they were
The Nes game was wayyy too hard to play!
@@tikitokiworld3242 yeah I think I played it for years and got past the underwater bomb level once
“More Vanilla Ice, less Shredder being crushed to death in a trash compactor..” 😆😂😆
5:53 Actually the Samurai Pizza Cats had absolutely nothing to do with the Ninja Turtles. At least if we're talking about the Japanese version originally. That was actually based on/a parody of Gundam model kit figures, except they were a parody of Edo-period Japanese dramas with Robot Animals. But still somewhat intended to sell figures natively in Japan by just targeting that demographic of the otaku fanbase that collects and paints robot figurines. Although one small element of the later English dub which was completely re-written from the original did take shots at the Turtles rarely, only as a way to try and comically set itself apart as unintentional competition. But I believe they only ever referenced this twice.
I’d love to see you do an episode on Mark Waid’s “Purple Children” arc. It was my favorite story in Waid’s run as it had a real heavy effect on Matt. Anyway I love your work and will continue to enjoy your episodes as they come out.
Really excited for Turtlecember 2022
What an incredible essay! Learning about the shared history between these two books was really cool, especially when you see how each evolved over the years. I always love seeing how different creators can remix different parts of a story to make it their own.
Happy Darecember, one and all!
Loved the 1990 movie. A perfect balance of the serious and silliness. I still occasionally watch it even in my adult years.
Wow! Matt Draper ,I’m surprise that you are doing so many DareDevil comics.That good that you staying consistent .
Happy Darecember!
Yeah if you’ve watched them, you’d know why he does so many sir.
YESYESYES! I know we’re in Darecember but I would LOVE to see a video on the original City at War arc, it’s easily the best story in the original Mirage continuity that certainly was a return to form after the very mixed bag that was the “Guest Era”, and from what I’ve read of the IDW series seems to be a large inspiration.
Are you telling me “the foot” who always seemed so intimidating to me are just offbrand “the hand”. So on the nose 😂
I'd completely forgotten about their common origin. Heck I regularly forget about the radioactive origins of DD. Thank you Matt.
Imagine if Frank Miller would work with Eastman and Laird on a DD and TMNT crossover...if only!
Simply, We All Need to Learn from Eastman and Lairs to make a Great Franchise by Luck
Thanks for the coverage Matt. TMNT and Daredevil are my two favorite comic characters. Much ❤ as always
I love how much like last year with the DD/Charlie Brown video, you not only return to old videos ideas (a semi-follow up to the IDW TMNT video) but utilize Daredevil ‘s influence on the original TMNT comic Laird and Eastman made and how they evolved over time. I really love the 2012 animated TMNT show on Nick (call it the version of the Turtles I grew up on) and I thank your video on the IDW TMNT to get me into that series. Read up until the 10th volume of the complete collection and I can definitely say it ranks very high on my favorite comics lists. While I grew to love Daredevil even more, the turtles still remain awesome. Turtle power! Can’t wait for the final Darecember video.
(Hope you ate some pizza while editing this video) 🍕
Thanks! I did! I'm always eating pizza actually.
The Hand and The Foot Clan is so on the nose. I love it.
Without Daredevil, New Mutants, X-Men and Ronin, TMNT would have never happened. Thank god those comics exist!
Such perfect timing because lately I've been on a Turtles binge lol
Another amazing video !! I have always love the TMNT / Daredevil reference. It’s interesting to see the development of Shredder in the TMNT myths. He has only a few shots in the original comic and was never really meant to be their main antagonist , but has gone on to be the big bad of the TMNT franchise
I’ve always loved the ninja turtles. As I’ve grown up I’ve had the chance to appricate some the more mature aspects of the franchise while still loving the goofier aspects aimed at a younger audience. It’s a franchise for people of all ages.
I love tmnt,the nick show is very nostalgic to me,but in general is great to know that people know or knew at least one version of this heroes,so they have alot of cultural impact even if it doesnt look like it.
I find it Interesting that the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles were inspired by daredevil which originally had consistently amazing runs and despite that Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles would become more main stream and loved. Only recently had DD become more mainstream. His comics are dope and his show is amazing. Just makes me wanna finish Daredevil while reading his comics. Rewatching some tmnt 2012 and reading the IDW comics.
my favorite childhood heroes and my favorite hero in one video having seen a breakdown of their direct comic inspiration love the video again Matt happy Darecember!
So its less than a week away from Christmas which means we're gonna finally get your take on DD S3!!! Been waiting since it first aired 3 years ago! Happy Darecember!!!
The mirage tmnt needs more love than the kid friendly 87 cartoon
Eastman & Laird were also fans of Jack Kirby comics too.
Great video on two of my favorite comics. Keep up the great work Matt.
just like robert kirkman invincible was supposed to be parody of dc and marvel but ended up huge success
This was great, Mateo! Loved seeing the evolution of the turtles straying off and becoming their own thing.
Still waiting for the day when we get the inevitable crossover between Daredevil and the Turtles. (Hey, if Batman can crossover with them, anything is possible).
Marvel doesn't really like crossovers with smaller studios.
@@spectreagent00 But Marvel and Image did a crossover comic with Spiderman and Invincible. So it's not impossable for a crossover comic between Daredevil and the Ninja Turtles
@@The_Blue_Otaku I think it’s only because they have a good personal relationship with Kirkman
Turtles are probably just outside or just barely in the top 5 biggest comic based characters. The ones that are probably bigger are: Superman, Batman, X-Men, Spider-Man, Iron Man, MCU, and maybe Justice League
We should’ve gotten an IDW tmnt Marvel Daredevil crossover.
Great episode as always and I love the daredevil theme at the end. Nice touch.
I've always loved DD and the TMNT. Hoping for a crossover one day. Great video.
Dude the IDW TMNT run is amazing it's actually the reason I found your channel.
Yea, but only first 100 issues.
@@Jackfromshack yeah I dropped off at 51 because of stuff going on in life but I can for a fact say anything that was with Waltz and Eastman was amazing.
Great video, Matt! I love how you weave these two together and the history you cover. So good! I also see you with that Waid/Samnee shout. Have you ever shared your daredevil creators ranking?!
Also, just joined your Patreon, super pumped.
10:22 “just don’t yell at other people on the internet because of a kids cartoon, okay?” Can literally be applied to any fandom of any good thing lol
Wow, really great and honest video. Thanks for reminding people about the existence of the franchise that is the most important and favourite to me. It also would be very nice and great if you make a video about the "City at War" arc at the end of the first volume. It is considered as one of the greatest and most iconic tmnt stories and it's also very Daredevil esque.
Happy Darecember Matt great video as always
I've known about the DD and TMNT connection for years. Lol I'm hoping for a crossover with DD and TMNT and a connection between The Foot and The Hand.
I don’t know if Waid’s DD is better than Brubaker’s run, but open to your video that would try to convince me!
I attacked the like button on this video... WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE!
Always great Matt, i really liked rise of the tmnt, it wasnt exactly for me but people were really mean to the series, even tho it has the best fight scenes in all the tmnt cartoons
100% best fight scenes and overall most dynamic series of them all
Ohhh so some of my favorite goofy characters were inspired by one of my favorite marvel heroes. I think it’s hilarious that my head canon of two friends just making a joke which became tmnt is true. I knew that the comic was gritty but had no idea they killed.
It wasn't just daredevil, it was New Mutants too. The "Teenage Mutant" part came from them.
It’s official head cannon that daredevil created the tmnt!
Great video!
tmnt is fascinating as a franchise yall. I came into the fandom through the 2018 reboot but now that it's over I'm methodically going through all the iterations to see how different creative teams interpreted the original idea
So far the 2003 series is my fave
As usual, so enjoyable to watch.
Bro I’m all for the tmnt and daredevil to be a thing, that would change the tmnts frickin universe….. Making them apart of marvel should be canon
Awesome video. I also find the link between the turtles and Cerebus quite interesting. It's true the TMNT stories lift directly from Daredevil, but I guess Cerebus was a strong influence for their ideas in general in terms of anthropomorphic animals in serious settings. There's even a couple of TMNT/Cerebus crossover books out there I believe
Huh, I learned something today. I didn't know the Turtles were a parody of Daredevil.
Not gonna lie I was extremely confused when I kept seeing people said that the same thing that turned the turtles and to me and gave Murdock his powers but the concept of crossover sounded cool. Maybe an IDW one. But I’m glad this video explains what I was so confused ab. I wish Teen Titans could cross over with them too tbh.
I love this video Bc I never seen anyone do this topic like this before
Idw series NEEDS a tv show
I'm also a huge fan of Daredevil he's my favorite Marvel superhero
Awesome vid matt love darecember you should cover the last ronin
Wow. I had no idea but now I can't unsee it 😆
given how good the Batman meets the Ninja Turtles cartoon was, now i want a Daredevil crossover.
2:04 music- Home -" This Will Pass"
what are your thoughts and opinion on Charlie Cox returning as Daredevil in the MCU ?
I'm very glad he's back! I just hope they use him well.
@@MattDraper What about Vincent D'onofrio's return as Kingpin?
Yeah it definitely feels like the hand/ninja stuff is third. Not much focus was put on it even by miller early in DDs origin.
When you don't know or especially care about Daredevil but Matt's voice is really cool.
I sure love tmnt!!! This was cool to see! I follow the newer IDW series. The only thing I wish was the IDW series had was artwork like the early Mirage tmnt. Those issues were hand art to look at page after page!
what is the image from at 10:04 ?
Brilliant! This video is a big deal for comic lovers!
Damn, I was hoping you were going to key me in to a TMNT vs Daredevil trade banger!
7:42 I’ve got that First Issue of Image Comics’ TMNT. I should definitely keep it. Not sure what the value will be in the future. But still, I’m just gonna keep it.^^
For real though when are we getting a Street Shark movie
And yet the two franchises never crossed over yet.
Let’s fix that.
I bought a collection of the first 5 or so issues of TMNT in one book. When I re-read their origin story I asked myself, "Wait, isn't that Daredevil's origin too?"
Man this video blew my mind 😍🔥
GodDAM you make great videos.
This video was an unexpected joy
Amazing title cant wait to watch
A parody that became so popular most people don’t even realize it’s a parody anymore
Hey don't knock those Pizza Cats.
0:28⏸️ the real leader
I was watching season 2 of DD and started to think the turtles will come and help Matt.
Are you gonna do a retrospective on the Monsterverse Godzilla films as well as the Reiwa Godzilla films?
It's coming soon
Oroku Saki. Period.
Sure, the Waid/Samnee run is good, but the best? No way. Frank Miller's is without a doubt the best.
This reminded me I still haven't picked up Last Ronin.
You should make a vid on the idw tmnt