RC No Prep Weight Talk | Can we Balance Weight with Suspension??

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  • Опубліковано 27 сер 2022
  • After my last few RC No Prep Drag Racing videos, I've gotten a bunch of comments from you guys. Ranging from encouragement to congratulations, to tips and advice. I go through everything and sometimes I'm really hesitant to try things, like the weight I tried in the last video, so I decided I wanted to see what else I could try that you guys suggested.
    A theme that stuck out to me what weight balance. Getting the car to be as close as possible to 50/50 front and rear balanced. And without adding more weight to the front, that's tough, but a few of you commented about suspension adjustments to correct this.
    After not finding any information online I decided to just start trying a couple things. So today we're talking about weight. A lot. And a few of the things I learned about weight and tuning and suspension adjustments in RC Street Outlaw drag racing!!
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  • @gatorage850
    @gatorage850 Рік тому +2

    The weight move is transfer weight - it will not show on the scale for the car is not moving!!!
    people that know how to tune do this before adding weight - for you can get weight on the tire without adding unnecessary weight!!! For example if you run less kick up in the front it will transfer less weight rearward. If you run more anti squat in the rear it will keep weight forward - and push rear tire harder into the ground. If you run a stiffer spring less weight is transferred to that side but the weight that gets on the stiff spring transfers more wight to the tire. If you lay the shock down you will have more weight tranfer left to right but usually dose not transfer to the tire as well for the spring is softer. Stand-up shock transfer less weight (left to right) but the weight get to the tire and more responsive (like a hard spring).
    !!!The best way!!! simply lowering the weight in the car (center of gravity) will tranfer less weight to the rear!!! so the tall batteries could be hurting you - try run a lower profile battery and add weight lower. Then you can run less weight in the front for more speed!!!

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  Рік тому +1

      Some of your points I do agree with but I don't completely understand the not wanting the weight to shift to the rear that you're talking about to agree. When launching off the line, we want that weight to transfer to the rear. Not too fast, but weight transferring to the rear allows it to put it to the tire like you mentioned to be able to put down more power. Sort of like the full scale drag cars, we're trying to get the balance of the car around 50/50 front and rear, so as the car leaves it can settle down and put the power down. Ideally, taking that extra weight off the front would be nice but we'd have to find a way to move some of the weight in the rear, forward to balance it off since all of the electronics are in the rear.

  • @josephcaruana9165
    @josephcaruana9165 24 дні тому

    Something that one could also do is the rake of the car, by having less negative rake and softer suspension the weight will transfer to the back when accelerating!

  • @soulbrother3299
    @soulbrother3299 Рік тому +1

    Facts the heavy weight worked for me as well!!! Dude keep listening and tuning I'm on the same journey!! Trial and error...

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  Рік тому

      Yep, the trial and error has been a lot of fun though!! Can't complain, I'm enjoying it.

  • @aufamilyadventures
    @aufamilyadventures Рік тому +1

    Awesome video Brother. I really enjoy watching Your videos. I'm just getting started on building my first nprc car and I'm learning so much while I'm watching Your videos Brother. Thank You so much for sharing this information with us Brother.

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  Рік тому

      Awesome!!! Thank you, I enjoy helping people out however I can.

  • @michaelpfuntner8109
    @michaelpfuntner8109 4 місяці тому

    Very interesting I got some good ideas

  • @tizrc1358
    @tizrc1358 Рік тому

    Niiiiiice video
    Dats wat I'm talking about sir.. please keep them coming.i finally got my dr10m so yessir.. good stuff my man

  • @giomallysille1663
    @giomallysille1663 Рік тому +1

    Hope the project you have in the making is a slash, if it's not I will still be here to learn more and more

  • @YurrFilmz
    @YurrFilmz Рік тому

    30 secs in and ik it’s gonna be a banger!!

  • @powermadracing5116
    @powermadracing5116 Рік тому

    Great video if I was you stop all the extension on the front shocks limited to your ride height make that sprung weight instantly weight on the hit.. through the rear end shock oil and spring will depend on your hinge pin angle whether you're using neutral separation or SWAT do not use squat ... it is an optical illusion it is actually sucking the tire up in the fender well ,weight bias move all the components you can to the front so you don't have to add weight to the car hitting the bar so hard and cause unloading . as your traction goes up you will need more weight bias shoot for somewhere around 50/50 as your traction goes up ...great job man keep at it I promise you'll get there..

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for all the great tips. I'm getting close to around 50/50 now, and seeing improvements constantly!!

  • @mikedasilva5657
    @mikedasilva5657 Рік тому +1

    Morbo racing sells a nice servo mount that moves the servo behind the shock tower and you can move battery more forward.

  • @boosieboo497
    @boosieboo497 Рік тому

    So I was messing around w my DR10M not long ago and noticed the there’s movement at the rear hubs. They slide forward on the pin that’s holding them in. You can use shims to remove that slack and the car is super straight now. Same shims that are used for removing slacking of the diff in crawlers

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  Рік тому +1

      I'll have to look into that. Don't think I've ever noticed that, thanks!

    • @boosieboo497
      @boosieboo497 Рік тому

      Also, using the DR10/ProSC10 front shock tower is a huge upgrade. It’s around 13mm taller so it allows to get the front end low. Internally limit the rear travel to proper height. Even can limit the front to really slam the chassis. Made my passes faster and has great control. Can’t wait to see some more drag car videos you are one of the few guys actually giving advice/ setup suggestions.

  • @Gavs_rc_hobbies
    @Gavs_rc_hobbies Рік тому

    I definitely need to do some weight distribution on my DR10. I may have to invest in one of those skyrc scales.

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  Рік тому +1

      They have some bluetooth ones now as well. I'd look into those so you don't have to deal with all the wires.

    • @Gavs_rc_hobbies
      @Gavs_rc_hobbies Рік тому

      @@FullThrottleRC ooooh noice. Ill look into it. 👍🏻

  • @joegomez7650
    @joegomez7650 Рік тому +1

    I run 2k 8pound springs in the front and 3k 7 pound springs 49% front and 51% rear. I have my battery pushed all the way to the front. I run the r1dc1.

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  Рік тому +1

      That chassis is really nice!!!

    • @joegomez7650
      @joegomez7650 Рік тому

      Just built it. Running 4pole r1 esc and motor. 1.88 at 79mph on gnss

  • @josephcaruana9165
    @josephcaruana9165 24 дні тому

    Ass far as I know you can not move weight from front to rear or vice versa but add or reduce weight dijagonali.
    To understand you need to think tgat you have a stool with four legs and one of the legs is shorter or longer so the weight will be transferd to the leg touching the ground, same with the car the wheel touching the ground will have the most pressure on it so you need to lift of the ground slightly until you find a balance with all wheels touching the ground!

  • @joesf1026
    @joesf1026 Рік тому +1

    Move weight around by using the threaded shock collars. Only reason they're there. No it doesn't remove weight obviously but it moves it where you want it.

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  Рік тому

      I tried adding preload in the rear, it didn't change anything. Actually the actual weight in grams was exactly the same with 1/4" of preload on both rear shocks.

    • @joesf1026
      @joesf1026 Рік тому +1

      @@FullThrottleRC I use this method before every test/ race day. I'd guess your anti roll bar is hindering the process. Remove it and try again. The most important part is just balancing rear left to right

    • @joesf1026
      @joesf1026 Рік тому +1

      @@FullThrottleRC another thing to keep in mind is that if you have one front tire binding or limited unevenly you'll cause one to lift more than the other and steer the car at speed.

  • @CoachD386
    @CoachD386 Рік тому

    I’ve done 1k diff fluid in front and 2k in the rear… it was ok, but went back to 30wt / 80wt

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  Рік тому +1

      After the research I've done, I will try the 3k diff fluid in the rear but I'm pretty happy with my setup now honestly.

  • @fishingsouthernindiana6480
    @fishingsouthernindiana6480 Рік тому

    Only thing I can see is under power suspension adjustments is going to transfer the weight to diff parts the car.

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  Рік тому

      Yep, we want the weight transfer. It helps plant the back tires and gives tractions. It's a balance trying not to transfer too much though and blow the tires off!

  • @bigbadcash
    @bigbadcash 7 місяців тому

    How come you don't have your front shocks vertical instead of at an angle? Like your rear shocks

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  7 місяців тому

      I didn't feel the fronts needed the same movement as the rear and it was also more difficult to create a mount for the shocks to work the same for the front so I never did make one

  • @user-tk6jx7ju1f
    @user-tk6jx7ju1f 29 днів тому

    Can you lower the front end any and raise the back end a little this may help transfer a little weight to the front

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  28 днів тому

      I wouldn't want to lower the front much more as it would start to drag the ground.

  • @tizrc1358
    @tizrc1358 Рік тому

    Hey my guy... hope all is well any dr10m videos coming soon???

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  Рік тому +1

      I'm planning on filming one this weekend. Been having a lot of fun projects going on but look for one in the next couple weeks!

  • @sherrysandhu2183
    @sherrysandhu2183 Рік тому

    Nyc thing you have but there is something missing and I do really like to add contribution which can help loading more weight and you can load 2 to 3 times more weight.

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  Рік тому

      I'm sorry I don't understand what you're referring to. Are you saying I can add more weight? Cause I don't really want to add more weight to the car, just want to get it further balanced. Closer to 50/50 front/rear.

  • @Atris_965
    @Atris_965 Рік тому

    I have baja 8s and i have One problem The wheels dont grip
    The problem is that the battery and the motor are on top of each other. With this movement, I put the largest weight on the rear wheels to give me the best grip on the wheels.
    Sure it is a wheelie but I put a well bar and this problem solved
    ( But still the wheels spin without grip )
    But>>>>>
    Who says move the battery forward, didn't he think about the grip of the rear wheels? Or is there something I don't understand?

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  Рік тому +1

      The point of moving the battery forward is to balance the car more and help set the nose down quicker. Although wheelies are cool, the slow the car down really. The longer the front wheels are in the air, the more resistance you have as the wind catches under the car and doesn't pass over it. Also you can't steer with the front wheels in the air. So by moving the weight forward, we try to tame down the lifting of the front end. It'll still wheelie which means we're still getting grip to the rear wheels, but we want to control the car bettter.

    • @Atris_965
      @Atris_965 Рік тому

      @@FullThrottleRC Well it makes sense, I'll give it a try 👍🏼💙

  • @badbilly4209
    @badbilly4209 Рік тому

    wheel weight is the easiest way to make more power. Less drivetrain weight frees up power.

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  Рік тому

      We'll see soon just how much that weight in the wheels is worth!!

  • @huntermelton7157
    @huntermelton7157 Рік тому

    Trash the arb and go with 4 trans spacers

    • @FullThrottleRC
      @FullThrottleRC  Рік тому

      I'm running the factory recommended two spacers as of now. What is the "arb" you're talking about?

  • @MrPappysCobra
    @MrPappysCobra Рік тому

    What wheels and tires you running?