In earlier videos, you recommend selecting V2 instead of V4 when calibrating in Windows. In this video, you select the default V4. Has something changed? Does the choice make an important difference?
Thanks for making these! Does PMU save an ICC to the operating system? What does the Windows Color Management look like using this PMU calibration method?
I am using Benq SW 240 monitor with HDMI connection. I have downloaded Pallette Master Ultimate and calibrated the monitor using PMU. After calibration validation is being done. What's the purpose of validation? My calibration report shows maximum delta e of less than 2. Validation shows maximum delta e of more than 4. Why is this so? What needs to be done? Please advise.
Validation is needed to check your calibration to see how accrued it is. Your calibration is good. The set values of the ∆e are threshold. Nothing to be done other than knowing that your colors are accurate
This looks really good. I'm looking forward to more videos on the software, hopefully one where you use the Photography (Adobe RGB) calibration model and address the specifics of setting black points and version numbers. Until then I'll try using the same settings I've used with Palette Master Element. And once again, thank you Art for another very informative video.
Hello Art, it's me again Thanks to your help, I purchased the i1Display Pro and installed Palette Master Ultimate on my Windows computer. I'm currently using the BenQ SW271C and SW270C monitors. I am using SW271 as my primary monitor for editing work station and the SW270C as a secondary monitor for monitoring ongoing editing in full-screen. Can I ask how to best perform calibration in my current situation? In your video, I saw a 'Measurement (other monitor)' option in the Luminance category. Would it be better to calibrate the SW271C monitor first and then use 'Measurement (other monitor)' on the SW270C? I'm always so grateful!
You can give that feature a try. Or if you want to keep things simple right now, you can just choose to calibrate them individually as well. I'm working on that video and will have something soon. :)
Great video Art. Previously, I've been using Panel Native calibrations (i1 Display Pro Plus). Have you done an example of Panel Native for the Palette Master Ultimate software? Was just wondering if I should choose 'Native' under all the sections in the Edit Target setting(s)
Hi Art, Thanks for the video, PMU looks awesome but I'll have to wait as I'm using a Spyder5Pro which isn't compatible. Two questions if I may: Can you install PMU over the top of PME or should you completely uninstall Element first? You mention in your other replies that the spyder5 has a bad sensor, so in that case (because I can't afford to upgrade to the Calibrite Colorchecker atm) am I better off still calibrating with the spyder or just using the factory default on my SW270C?
They are 2 separate software and can both be on the system, just that only one can run at any given time. Not a bad sensor but quality wise it is not as good when compared to the alternatives in the market place. For now I would just use PME and Spyder 5 to calibrate your SW270C
If you have a Compatible BenQ SW, absolutely. With PMU you are doing a true hardware calibration, with calibration device software, you are just doing a software one. It is like buying a fast sport car to drive at 10 mph in first gear all the time. ua-cam.com/video/9hVfwW9LK8E/v-deo.html
Eizo always updates one ICC profile under the same name - for each calibration target. BenQ names each profile differently depending on the date. This leads to having to manually assign a profile, manually delete it, and can lead to mistakes - on a Mac. According to the video, even in the new version, the names keep changing...
But you have the option to name the ICC profile whatever you choose so should be able to save as the same name as the previous calibration if that's what you want. One would assume the reason the default name includes the current date is for that exact reason, so you always know the date that calibration was run on. You don't have to use this naming convention if you don't want to: choose whatever name you prefer.
What @izonozi said and Eizo does that too because many of their high end model have in screen calibration. You need that because if the icc profile name change, calibration system and accuracy as a whole would fail. It is not a feature as much as a common denominator work around for precipitate from the high end device down to the mid-tier one.
Hi Art, great tutorial! I have a query. I got a passed calibration in PMU with an SW321C and SpyderX but the screen is now pretty dark. It's a very noticeable drop in brightness to the adobergb and srgb settings already in the screen menu. Because of this, I went into MacOS display settings out of curiosity to see if the ICC profile just created was in there and I clicked on one out of curiosity. I then clicked on a few. If I now go back to my calibration 1 hardware calibration bin the screen, it differs depending on what colour profile I have in the MacOS display settings. Should the profile have been created here? Wondering if there is there a way I can lock the MacOS display settings from affecting the new hardware calibration? Sorry for the waffle! Cheers
You can't lock that just have to use the correct one, PMU generated profiles are usually at the bottom of the list with the name of the display SW321C_Cal..... choose that one.
@@ArtIsRight Gotcha. Thanks so much for your time! Would you say it is normal for it to be considerably darker in brightness for the calibrated profile than the 100% brightness the screen can achieve? It really is a lot darker and coming from a Macbook pro XDR display I guess it's going to take time to get used to it. Would a higher luminance setting still achieve a calibration as good as normal luminance if say I wanted to run it higher than 120? Thanks
Would you say it is normal for it to be considerably darker in brightness for the calibrated profile than the 100% brightness the screen can achieve? Yes for printing. It really is a lot darker and coming from a Macbook pro XDR display I guess it's going to take time to get used to it. And if you try to print at XDR full brightness your images will be dark 10/10 times. There's viewing luminance and printing luminance. Would a higher luminance setting still achieve a calibration as good as normal luminance if say I wanted to run it higher than 120? Yes you are always validating at the luminance that you calibrate.
Hi Art! This is awesome news! Will the new Calibrate profiling application work with my SW2700pt ( 2017 and 2018) using Xrite i1 display pro calibration device?
I've just bought an SW271C, I can connect to the hub via the USB cable, I can view the screen via DisplayPort, HDMI and USB-C, however I cannot get the Palette Master Ultimate software (Windows) to recognise the SW271C. Any thoughts? Having only the USB hub and USB-C connected, no connection with the software.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for the reply. Sorry, I thought I made it clear. I have connected USB-C to USB-C, AND the USB-A to USB B (hub) cable. Then started the software. No connection. These are the Benq cables. Both cables work, the USB-C for display, the USB-A to B for monitor hub connectivity as I checked I could read from the USB and SD card slot. But, the software doesn't see it.
Thanks for the guide , does it matter which profile Version to use for this new software on Windows 11 , ICC v2 or ICC v4 ? The monitor I use is BenQ SW270C with ColorChecker Display Plus
Hey. Which one would you suggest between Sypder X Pro and Colormunki for SW240? I am a video colorist and work with display referred grades for theatrical and OTT releases.
Calibrite Display Pro, Display Plus, Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL are the ones that I would recommend along with BenQ Palette Master Ultimate as the software
No, just make sure that it is the bigger color spectrophotometer one. There are numerous color munki, display being one of the model, that one is shaped like the i1Display Pro device, just different color and that device will not work. It has to be ColorMunki Photo
Does it matter what brightness my monitor is set to? A SW321C, I usually (using the puck dial) set it to about 65 in my fairly light room, and about 30-35 later in the day when it's dimmer. Surely this must affect the calibration. What should it be at? Cannot find info anywhere. Thanks.
Yes and you are currently using one of the factory calibrated mode which is ok. But for the most part, the luminance should be fixed> What you can do is calibrate slot 1 to a lower nit and slot 2 to a brighter nit and with Palette Master Ultimate icc sync ua-cam.com/video/Wf1naMT5Oew/v-deo.html it will automatically change the profile for you.
Hi there Art! Had a question about the other software pallet master v1.3.19.0.. do we have to uninstall that software before installing pallet master ultimate and also so what's the best one to pick Adobe RGB or SRGB? What's better 100 or 120 for screen brightness? When calibrating the monitor since there's no Panel Native...
2 separate software can both reside on the system. As far as sRGB or Adobe RGB it would depend on the workflow. Brightness again based on your environment, difficult to say. And yes there's panel native in edit settings!
@@ArtIsRight thank you so much... as far as panel native I don't see it in Pallet master ultimate.. I looked though the settings not there I will look again thanks
I have a old Colormunki Photo --- can I use it with the Palette Master Ulitmate software. I just received my SW272Q monitor. I must say the documentation BenQ provides is abyssmal. I have yet to figure out what all the buttons are... what I am supposed to do with the ICC profile downloaded from the website.
Yes, PME still works on my display. I know that. Why can't BenQ develop a firmware update for their products that can be downloaded to bring them up to date and make their latest software usable. Are the electronics of the older monitors that much different compared to the latest models making them impossible to use the new software or are all their monitors designed not to able be updated via firmware?
Hi Art. I just bought a 272Q monitor, and would like to calibrate it. I am following this video, and have downloaded the Palette Master Ultimate software. I am at the login step (2:12 in the video). First, I am asked for my email. I put in my yahoo email address. Then I am asked for my password. Is this my yahoo password? If yes, why would I need to give this information? I feel very nervous about giving my yahoo password to BenQ. But before that, I had to pick either google or apple. So this makes me wonder if I should be putting a google email and password in. Can you provide guidance? I'm going to hold at this step until I understand this better.
Hi Art, My experience is not the same as yours. Calibrated my BenQ SW270C today. Using PME = got Ave delta E 1.05 Max delta E 2.37 Using PMU = got Ave delta E6.95 Max delta E 16.5 Same monitor, same Colorchecker display pro using mainly defaults, just changed luminence to 100. This is not good. Which is correct? Roy Sletcher
It is not which is correct, it is that one just fails validation. The question is why? It would be great to get a log. If you sign into PMU, create an account. On the Home Screen there an "I" in the circle on the bottom left, click on that, choose account and then choose Export Log ID, this will send an error log directly to BenQ. Once you click on it, a dialog will pop up with the Log ID number, if you email or dm this to me I can send it BenQ for further investigation. Otherwise you can find the log file at C:\\Users\(User Account)\AppData\Local\BENQ\PaletteMasterUltimate\log either email me the ID or log and we can investigate further.
In addition to this what display Cale are you using and what video card? If Nvidia or AMD are you using their pro driver - Nvidia would be Studio Driver and AMD would be Fire Pro driver. If not please try that first. Also please send me the validation report as well this way we can see where the validation fails.
@@ArtIsRight I've got a similar problem. SW240, Windows 11, Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 with latest Studio driver, i1 Display PRO (11 years old). Calibration Failed with Average Delta E*00 = 2.32, Max Delta E*00 = 4.91. Tried a couple of different Calibration Targets and getting Calibration Fails.
INTERESTING! I have my PC driving 2 monitors with Extend Displays, however the second (non Benq) monitor was switched off. After reading @karlkirkman300's thread I turned the second monitor on and re-ran the calibration with success!👍
Is there any chance that my BenQ SW320 will be supported in the future? FYI I tried both blackpoints (absolute blackpoint and 0.3 cd/m2). I think absolute blackpoint looks best.
I downloaded the program and then saw my spyder 5 elite isn't in the list of supported hardware. With PME I got avr delta of .75 and max delta of 1.77. I have to think twice about getting the colorimeter you suggest considering the cost. I'd like the feature of syncing with the win OS when changing calibrations on the hot puck but it isn't hard to switch default icc defaults in windows. How much bettter than the avr delta of .75 could I really get?
∆e is one variable that is easy to compare and assess but not necessary the end all be all. For now if you don't want to get a new calibrator just stick with PME. PMU uses a new algorithm and overall it does a much better job calibrating the display. As far as Spyder 5 for so many engineering and technical reason, the sensor inside spyders in general is not good, especially in dark and black tones. If you are ok with what you have, stick with it. When you are ready for a move consider Calibrite devices instead and with that you can use PMU with it too.
I just got a new SW240 monitor. However, when i installed BenQ's palette master ultimate, it could not detect the monitor no matter what I did. I am connecting it with a USB-C to displayport, together with the USB to USB upstream cable to my lenovo legion laptop but it still does not detect it in the software. I tried uninstalling and redownloading 5 times but it didnt work. I tried it with my Spyder X2 and the monitor could be detected by the spyderX software. Still, I cannot get palette master ultimate to detect my monitor. I've contacted the helpline and they said to use their displayport to mini displayport cable, but my laptop has no mini displayport slot at all. Do you happen to know how do I fix this issue? Even the customer support is not being helpful at all. Its been really frustrating with this first monitor that i got from BenQ
I tried uninstalling and redownloading 5 times but it didnt work. Usually if you do it once or twice and it does not work, it is usually another issue. I tried it with my Spyder X2 and the monitor could be detected by the spyderX software. The reason is Spyder software is doing a software calibration not hardware, so it does not need to talk with the chip inside the display. Still, I cannot get palette master ultimate to detect my monitor. I've contacted the helpline and they said to use their displayport to mini displayport cable, but my laptop has no mini displayport slot at all. "displayport to mini displayport cable" they are telling you the wrong thing. Do you happen to know how do I fix this issue? Even the customer support is not being helpful at all. It's been really frustrating with this first monitor that i got from BenQ. Dm me in fb page, insta or email me and we'll go from there
I discovered the problem from watching your other videos regarding PMU. I slowly pieced together what was the issue after seeing the steps you took. I had to delete the driver that I got from palette master ultimate file and install the drivers under SW240 monitor section on the website. Once I tried it again with my USB-C display port + the uplink cable, it finally worked. Thank you so much for your help. Your videos and advice are way better than the customer service of benQ. I really appreciate it 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻. I can finally use my monitor without frustration.
Hi! I have a BenQ SW271C connected via DP but I always fail the calibration (I'm using the spyderX pro) If I follow all your steps, the monitor will turn horribly green. Any suggestion? Can I send to you the report?
dm or email me. Something is going on with your system that is interfering with this. Is this a desktop or laptop, if desktop, are you using a separate GPU, if so are you using nVidia Studio driver for nVidia card or AMD pro driver for AMD card. Game driver will not work well.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for replying! I'm on a desktop. CPU: Ryzen 5 3600 RAM: 16gb GPU: Radeon RX480 Drivers: i guess the consumer you download from their site, AMD Adrenalin. Trying now with AMD PRO Drivers👍
@@ArtIsRight Small update: VALIDATION PASSED! avg. Delta: 0.60 max. Delta: 2.16 (patch n.16) I can't believe drivers could play such a huge roles! Thanks for the input!
It’s really frustrating that when I assign number one on my puck during the calibration process, it doesn’t actually work. If I want to switch to SRGB and push number two, then I push number one again. It goes to BenQ’s default profile not my calibrated profile thank you Support says this is normal behavior, which seems kind of silly to even, use the puck when calibrating
Let me clarify, when calibration you are not assigning the calibration slot or number to the puck, far from it, you are choosing the hardware calibration slot to store the 3D LUT in, that is simply what is happening. The puck has nothing to do with any of this process. If you want to learn how to get the most of your puck watch this ua-cam.com/video/NvnHZW-HToA/v-deo.html
@@ArtIsRight thanks I’ll check out the link. My hope was to be able to toggle between the calibrated profile and srgb. And once I click a button on the puck the only way to get back to the calibrated profile is manually every time I turn on the computer.
Thanks for the rundown. Super excited to see that switching the display profile on the puck is now also altering the ICC profile on my machine. Any input on why they would put the softproofing preset at 160 cd/m^2? Seems to fly in the face of the common reference of around 80 (note, test prints not yet done).
Again starting point for individual user customization. Also reference for print is a bit higher usually at 100-120 nits. But calibrating for proof at D50 our perception of color and brightness changes drastically at that white point, 160 is a suitable starting point, especially when considering that proper print viewing is done with a well illuminated viewing booth.
@@ArtIsRight 160 is the specified luminance for Adobe 1998 so that's probably why the default presets are at 160. I know digital techs in the photo industry often have various settings - indoor vs outdoors for brightness (ie. 160 indoors, max brightness outdoors). For similar use cases, would you suggest calibrating at both points and just switching between them?
Hi Art, when starting a calibration with PMU my Windows 10 PC locked up and my SW321C screen displayed black for the entire screen. I was using the Eye1 Pro (mark 1) device, so this might be the cause of the failure. I selected the Eye1 Pro 2 as the device which PMU appeared to accept successfully. Do you think the Eye1 Pro is the the problem or are there other things I should be checking. I am able to use the latest version of PME with the Eye1 Pro without problems and with good results.
This is interesting. I'll report this to BenQ. i1Pro is a really old device and I don't even have one in the studio to test out. Either way, if you sign into PMU, create an account. On the Home Screen there an "I" in the circle on the bottom left, click on that, choose account and then choose Export Log ID, this will send an error log directly to BenQ. Once you click on it, a dialog will pop up with the Log ID number, if you email or dm this to me I can send it BenQ for further investigation.
Do we need to load the profile created each time we switch from a calibration to another for example d65 and d50 memorized in the control or since is hardware calibrated is automatically loaded
@@ArtIsRight Thank you, many ambassador on youtube deliver wrong information, the advanced to have hardware calibration is just to avoid to calibrate and change setting in the monitor every time we switch from a calibration to another but have already stored on the controller
I have a new SW271C monitor. Tried numerous RGB calibrations. Each one gives a failure message with excess Delta on the report page. Not at all clear as to how to proceed. Using a SpyderX pro
Hi Art I am using sw240 windows 11 Pro and trying to run PMU. But the calibration result failed. The maximum delta E about 4.17. What should I do? Thanks if you can help
If you are using HDMI, change to display port, make sure that you are running pro driver and not game driver, Nvidia studio driver or Fire Pro for Radeon
Hi Art, I passed the calibration. It may be that I used Adobe RGB mode before, after I tried to use Panel Native, the result passed. Anyway thanks for your kind response.
I tried to use it ... but it gets stucked after selection V4 and click next. It stop responding and even the monitor is not able to be shut down with the ON/OFF button.
Yes that is because PMU lock the display, to reset this you have to pull the power cord out. As far as why it freezes, there are so many variables. I would reach out to your local BenQ support for help on this. Or if you want my help, you can dm me
I like that it goes straight into the validation for you and the dialogs are probably better than before. But my main issue is that the grayscale calibration has a bad kink in it right at about level 153 or so. My black and white images show it clearly. It's a faint red shift. In other areas, like deep shadows, it goes toward the green. Put up a continuous gray scale wedge and it's pretty obviously not a neutral scale. Maybe they just made sure the 12 points in their validation report were spot on.
@@ArtIsRight I typically use 5600K, and either 100 cd or 70 cd, and either panel native or sRGB. If it's sRGB, then I use sRGB gamma. If it's panel native, I use gamma 2.2. Blsck point is 0.3. Ive fiddled around a lot and never gotten rid of it but I can see it change some, so I think the hardware is capable, but the way the software builds the calibration prevents it. Like the matrix or curve fitting, interpolation, etc is not right. It's almost like they used to high polynomial curve fit because the result is so bumpy. Again, it's not a horrible unusable result, but it's pretty clear on a nice b&w image that there's reds and some greens in it. Computer is windows 10 or 11 Update: With the new Ultimate program, the old problem is mostly gone, but now I can't get rid of green shadows
@@ArtIsRight it's an i1Pro and a sw270c. I've had some improvements. Pallette master isn't as good as i1profiler still. It crashed when I used a custom white point from my other monitor. I think pallete master doesn't do as well with the 70cd I was using or the 5600k. This could be an issue because of the older i1Pro, but i1profiler was able to handle it just fine. In my latest attempts, I've used 80cd and 6000K and it did better. Raising the black point a little off of absolute zero might be helping. My worst results were with absolute zero. I'm not really satisfied with the results of their algorithms but it's usable. They should be going lower than a gray level of 40, I'd like to see a 16. I just read here that v4 is better. Why is that? I've been using v2.
Hi, I had a perfect report with Palette Master Element but when I tested the Ultimate version the final report was bad, the screen remained red with no shut off possibility and the USB of Calbrite Coler Checker Pro is no more recognized...
An update on the situation for anyone reading this comment in the future. The issue has been resolved after some trouble shooting and diagnostics. Cause is unknown, Display port was clean and reseated. And PME along with i1Profilier were removed from the PC. Based on the feed back that I have seen so far this is an isolate incident. And in short everything is good with PMU!
Spyder X regardless of versions are supported. Just choose Spyder X, what makes it elite or pro is the Spyder software which you are not using when PMU is running.
Not quite, everything shifts over time. Calibration can be done once sure, but the longer you wait till next calibration the more things have slightly shift. These changes occur so slowly, our eyes cannot see or detect the changes from day to day and even over time because we are "used" to it but that is a bad road to go down.
This means that you should recalibrate your display every so often. The interval is up to you. But it is recommended that you do it at least every 4 weeks. It is not just one and done.
Interesting looking software. However when I loaded PMU and tried to run it, the ICC profile won’t generate. I get a warning message telling me the ICC profile set failed. Doesn’t seem to matter what settings I try.
This is interesting. I'll report this to BenQ. If you sign into PMU, create an account. On the Home Screen there an "I" in the circle on the bottom left, click on that, choose account and then choose Export Log ID, this will send an error log directly to BenQ. Once you click on it, a dialog will pop up with the Log ID number, if you email or dm this to me I can send it BenQ for further investigation.
So, after playing around with the software, I finally found the source of the issue. I use a laptop, and my SW270C is the second screen. When the SW270C is on and plugged in (usb-c), the laptop was set to display second screen only. This was fine for PME, but apparently not for PMU. For the new software to work, the display has to be set to extend. After I switched the screen display to extend, the software worked fine.
As far as I can find from their web site it's just for some of the latest BenQ monitors (2019 or later). Wish they would at least support back to the SW2700PT.
@@ArtIsRight I have an SW320 and an SW321C in a dual monitor configuration on Windows 10. If I understand you correctly, PMU isn't for the SW320 (because it's not current), but is intended for the SW321C? That would mean I have to use PME to calibrate the SW320 and PMU to calibrate the SW321C?
@davidallen1019 correct. 2 software. You can use PME for both, but I feel that PMU is going to produced a much better results then PME on the SW321C. Cheers
MacOS 14.4 MacBook Air M1 external SW240 colour become very strange once reboot, need to go in system setting and select other profile and switch back to the calibrated profile to make it become normal, anyone notice this?
Art, like I said before, you get better deta E because the calibrating device is not moving. For years, Xrite software forced the user to remove the device from the display and put it back in for the validation. Check it with the Calibrite software and ignore the instruction to remove the device after completed calibration, do not touch it and go to the validation process. My deltaE max is 1.2 in such case. Move the device and you get much worse results on validation
I just spent two hours texting with a fabulous BenQ source because I couldn’t calibrate my BenQ SW321C at all. The ultimate and the essential could not see my monitor. so after lots of trying of different things, I now need to buy a DPI to DPI cord AND a USB A to USB B cord to work with my custom built desktop. I am crossing my fingers that this will work. Right now I am using HDMI to just utilize my monitor but nothing is working to help me calibrate. I have only Thunderbolt C and DPI connections in my Graphics processor and the regular connections in my hard drive. Has anyone else had this problem? I can’t be the only one and I am still not sure that buying these new cords will work. It just seems strange. this was a custom built computer but with all the usual basic stuff. Just wondering if anyone else had this problem.
I was going to purchase a BenQ monitor; however, I will not due to the fact that I would have to create an account to continue to use the calibration after 30 days. It's the same reason I use Adobe Lightroom Classic as opposed to CC. I want full control over my content. I do not want to be a hostage to a company to use their products. It is completely unnecessary to sign into an account to use the calibration features of this monitor.
Paletter Master Ultimate like Palette Master Element only works with SW series, anything else you have to use the OEM software. This provide will not help any other display. It is Display specific.
It's well explained, but unfortunately Benq is seriously wrong with the colors or its color profiles compared to an Eizo, so I'll give my BenQ back. Everything I tried, especially in Srgb, is totally wrong
@@ArtIsRight I understand color management, but when I use srgb mode on 4 different displays that can display over 90% srgb, the Benq is totally wrong with a clear red tint and a change in the blue tone, when I edit on the eizo color edge it shows up All except the benq are the same, I suspect that the monitor profile is not correct, regardless of whether it is calibrated or the color signals specified by benq
That is factory spec, fully and acutely aware. ∆e below 2 is achieved from factory and in this calibration as well. As an educational point, when talking about display ∆e, the industry at large is referring to average ∆e, which in this calibration passes just fine at below 1, which is amazing. Max ∆e is for 1 color patch only and it is to highlight - more so to make aware that said color might show some slight variation. I see where you are pointing to and coming from but that is not the correct set of information that you have. And if you are looking for a true 10-bit, sure, go find one in the Eizo top end that costs 2-3 times as much. There are more to display bit depth than just spec, each to their own
What a waste of time watching the video and downloading the 'Ultimate' only to discover my SW2700-B is not supported. They build a monitor that is meant to stand up for years but consider it obsolete in a short period of time.
Wow! This looks awesome Sir. My Kind request to all SW2700PT user to give a 👍 to my comment if you are a SW2700PT MFG 2020/01 user. And Hit awesome 👍 on video before you leave. Sir i want know will it work with older SW model display like me and most of the BenQ followers have. My Display : SW2700PT Firmware 3 MFG 2020/01 Windows 10 Pro 64bit user. I am currently still using PME ver 1.3.15. and noticed that Ver. 1.3.16 & 17 is no longer available for download. Ver. 15, Ver. 18 and Ver. 19 are only available currently. I don't wanna keep my hopes up high, but if it works with SW2700PT FW3 MFG 2020/01 then i want to know more about it and how to use it on Windows 10/11. Thank You Sir for sharing this valuable information and great video.
Oh cool animation. What a socialist venture so now I have to give my phone number email account and have permission from Taiwan to calibrate my f in monitor. Are people seriously going along with this agenda. So The international colour consortium creates generic profiles that are not specific. Why would I want this. Do I need to have a vaccine as well to calibrate my monitor. I like the way that as soon as i downloaded it it shut down my two other monitors. For F sake. I know lets make sure I can never work with out an account back to mother. Role on the digital currency.
The new software looks great. Also great was your demo video. Thanks for the very clear explanation of the capabilities of the new software.
Thank you!
In earlier videos, you recommend selecting V2 instead of V4 when calibrating in Windows. In this video, you select the default V4. Has something changed? Does the choice make an important difference?
Yes something has change, unless you run into an issue, stick with version 4.
Thanks for making these! Does PMU save an ICC to the operating system? What does the Windows Color Management look like using this PMU calibration method?
Like PME it does this automatically. As far as windows color management goes, just set the profile in windows and you are good to go.
Really Great tutorial with excellent results on my SW270C. Achieved lowere Deltae than when using Calibrite Colorchecker.
Great to hear!
I am using Benq SW 240 monitor with HDMI connection. I have downloaded Pallette Master Ultimate and calibrated the monitor using PMU. After calibration validation is being done. What's the purpose of validation? My calibration report shows maximum delta e of less than 2. Validation shows maximum delta e of more than 4. Why is this so? What needs to be done? Please advise.
Validation is needed to check your calibration to see how accrued it is. Your calibration is good. The set values of the ∆e are threshold. Nothing to be done other than knowing that your colors are accurate
@@ArtIsRight Thanks you very much. Your support is very much appreciated.
This looks really good. I'm looking forward to more videos on the software, hopefully one where you use the Photography (Adobe RGB) calibration model and address the specifics of setting black points and version numbers. Until then I'll try using the same settings I've used with Palette Master Element. And once again, thank you Art for another very informative video.
I would use their preset as the starting point and modify. Absolute black works really well in PMU compared to PME. :) Give it a try!
@@ArtIsRight Thank you. In that case, I'll definitely start that way.
Hello Art, it's me again
Thanks to your help, I purchased the i1Display Pro and installed Palette Master Ultimate on my Windows computer.
I'm currently using the BenQ SW271C and SW270C monitors.
I am using SW271 as my primary monitor for editing work station and the SW270C as a secondary monitor for monitoring ongoing editing in full-screen.
Can I ask how to best perform calibration in my current situation? In your video, I saw a 'Measurement (other monitor)' option in the Luminance category.
Would it be better to calibrate the SW271C monitor first and then use 'Measurement (other monitor)' on the SW270C?
I'm always so grateful!
You can give that feature a try. Or if you want to keep things simple right now, you can just choose to calibrate them individually as well. I'm working on that video and will have something soon. :)
@@ArtIsRight Sir, yes sir!
Great video Art. Previously, I've been using Panel Native calibrations (i1 Display Pro Plus). Have you done an example of Panel Native for the Palette Master Ultimate software? Was just wondering if I should choose 'Native' under all the sections in the Edit Target setting(s)
You can, I used it personally
Hi Art,
Thanks for the video, PMU looks awesome but I'll have to wait as I'm using a Spyder5Pro which isn't compatible.
Two questions if I may:
Can you install PMU over the top of PME or should you completely uninstall Element first?
You mention in your other replies that the spyder5 has a bad sensor, so in that case (because I can't afford to upgrade to the Calibrite Colorchecker atm) am I better off still calibrating with the spyder or just using the factory default on my SW270C?
They are 2 separate software and can both be on the system, just that only one can run at any given time.
Not a bad sensor but quality wise it is not as good when compared to the alternatives in the market place. For now I would just use PME and Spyder 5 to calibrate your SW270C
@@ArtIsRight awesome, thankyou. 😉
:)
I calibrate Benq SW270C. What should I use as preferred blackpoint? Absolute Zero or 0.3 cd/m2 (which was advised when using Palette Master)?
Absolute black for PMU!
Would you recommend using the Palette Master Ultimate in place of the software that comes with my Spyder X?
If you have a Compatible BenQ SW, absolutely. With PMU you are doing a true hardware calibration, with calibration device software, you are just doing a software one. It is like buying a fast sport car to drive at 10 mph in first gear all the time. ua-cam.com/video/9hVfwW9LK8E/v-deo.html
Eizo always updates one ICC profile under the same name - for each calibration target. BenQ names each profile differently depending on the date. This leads to having to manually assign a profile, manually delete it, and can lead to mistakes - on a Mac. According to the video, even in the new version, the names keep changing...
But you have the option to name the ICC profile whatever you choose so should be able to save as the same name as the previous calibration if that's what you want.
One would assume the reason the default name includes the current date is for that exact reason, so you always know the date that calibration was run on.
You don't have to use this naming convention if you don't want to: choose whatever name you prefer.
What @izonozi said and Eizo does that too because many of their high end model have in screen calibration. You need that because if the icc profile name change, calibration system and accuracy as a whole would fail. It is not a feature as much as a common denominator work around for precipitate from the high end device down to the mid-tier one.
Hi Art, great tutorial! I have a query. I got a passed calibration in PMU with an SW321C and SpyderX but the screen is now pretty dark. It's a very noticeable drop in brightness to the adobergb and srgb settings already in the screen menu. Because of this, I went into MacOS display settings out of curiosity to see if the ICC profile just created was in there and I clicked on one out of curiosity. I then clicked on a few. If I now go back to my calibration 1 hardware calibration bin the screen, it differs depending on what colour profile I have in the MacOS display settings. Should the profile have been created here? Wondering if there is there a way I can lock the MacOS display settings from affecting the new hardware calibration? Sorry for the waffle! Cheers
You can't lock that just have to use the correct one, PMU generated profiles are usually at the bottom of the list with the name of the display SW321C_Cal..... choose that one.
@@ArtIsRight Gotcha. Thanks so much for your time! Would you say it is normal for it to be considerably darker in brightness for the calibrated profile than the 100% brightness the screen can achieve? It really is a lot darker and coming from a Macbook pro XDR display I guess it's going to take time to get used to it. Would a higher luminance setting still achieve a calibration as good as normal luminance if say I wanted to run it higher than 120? Thanks
Would you say it is normal for it to be considerably darker in brightness for the calibrated profile than the 100% brightness the screen can achieve?
Yes for printing.
It really is a lot darker and coming from a Macbook pro XDR display I guess it's going to take time to get used to it.
And if you try to print at XDR full brightness your images will be dark 10/10 times. There's viewing luminance and printing luminance.
Would a higher luminance setting still achieve a calibration as good as normal luminance if say I wanted to run it higher than 120?
Yes you are always validating at the luminance that you calibrate.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks very much Art, understood! It's been a while since I've edited for print so I'm glad it's not an incorrect profile. Cheers!
Hi Art! This is awesome news! Will the new Calibrate profiling application work with my SW2700pt ( 2017 and 2018) using Xrite i1 display pro calibration device?
Current SW in the line up only.
I've just bought an SW271C, I can connect to the hub via the USB cable, I can view the screen via DisplayPort, HDMI and USB-C, however I cannot get the Palette Master Ultimate software (Windows) to recognise the SW271C. Any thoughts? Having only the USB hub and USB-C connected, no connection with the software.
I would try to connect the USB cable directly between the computer and display then give that a try
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for the reply. Sorry, I thought I made it clear. I have connected USB-C to USB-C, AND the USB-A to USB B (hub) cable. Then started the software. No connection. These are the Benq cables. Both cables work, the USB-C for display, the USB-A to B for monitor hub connectivity as I checked I could read from the USB and SD card slot. But, the software doesn't see it.
Windows may be needing some driver. I would reach out to your local BenQ support for help
@@ArtIsRightGood call. Installing FTDI Driver_v2.12.36.4 from Benq remedied this.
@@j8rtUfh3evz Than you for response, he don't know this stuff...
Can I use SpyderX Elite instead of X-RITE I1 DISPLAY PRO?
Sure thing
Thanks for the guide , does it matter which profile Version to use for this new software on Windows 11 , ICC v2 or ICC v4 ? The monitor I use is BenQ SW270C with ColorChecker Display Plus
Just use V4 you'll be fine!
Hey. Which one would you suggest between Sypder X Pro and Colormunki for SW240? I am a video colorist and work with display referred grades for theatrical and OTT releases.
Calibrite Display Pro, Display Plus, Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL are the ones that I would recommend along with BenQ Palette Master Ultimate as the software
@@ArtIsRight Sadly, Calibrite products aren't readily available in my country.
hmmm, then if you have to choose Color Munki Photo - Spectro Photometer would be what I recommend and if you can't get that then Spyder.
@@ArtIsRight Ah, Thanks. I am getting Munki in a used condition. Would you advise me to go with it? Will that be compatible with Ultimate?
No, just make sure that it is the bigger color spectrophotometer one. There are numerous color munki, display being one of the model, that one is shaped like the i1Display Pro device, just different color and that device will not work. It has to be ColorMunki Photo
Does it matter what brightness my monitor is set to? A SW321C, I usually (using the puck dial) set it to about 65 in my fairly light room, and about 30-35 later in the day when it's dimmer. Surely this must affect the calibration. What should it be at? Cannot find info anywhere. Thanks.
Yes and you are currently using one of the factory calibrated mode which is ok. But for the most part, the luminance should be fixed> What you can do is calibrate slot 1 to a lower nit and slot 2 to a brighter nit and with Palette Master Ultimate icc sync ua-cam.com/video/Wf1naMT5Oew/v-deo.html it will automatically change the profile for you.
When calibrating the BenQSW display do you plug the calibrator (I have the SpyderX Pro) into the monitor USB or the computer USB?
either, but best to the computer
Hi there Art! Had a question about the other software pallet master v1.3.19.0.. do we have to uninstall that software before installing pallet master ultimate and also so what's the best one to pick Adobe RGB or SRGB? What's better 100 or 120 for screen brightness? When calibrating the monitor since there's no Panel Native...
2 separate software can both reside on the system. As far as sRGB or Adobe RGB it would depend on the workflow. Brightness again based on your environment, difficult to say. And yes there's panel native in edit settings!
@@ArtIsRight thank you so much... as far as panel native I don't see it in Pallet master ultimate.. I looked though the settings not there I will look again thanks
It is not in the presets, you have to from the monitor setting page click on edit target and in the drop down list fir gamut, choose native there.
I have a old Colormunki Photo --- can I use it with the Palette Master Ulitmate software. I just received my SW272Q monitor. I must say the documentation BenQ provides is abyssmal. I have yet to figure out what all the buttons are... what I am supposed to do with the ICC profile downloaded from the website.
Yes chose i1studio from the list. Icc profile from the website are useless, just follow my guide.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately selecting the i1studio did not work. I have ordered a new colorimeter - the Calibrite Display Pro HL
Yes, PME still works on my display. I know that. Why can't BenQ develop a firmware update for their products that can be downloaded to bring them up to date and make their latest software usable. Are the electronics of the older monitors that much different compared to the latest models making them impossible to use the new software or are all their monitors designed not to able be updated via firmware?
Yes there are many changes throughout the years
Hi Art. I just bought a 272Q monitor, and would like to calibrate it. I am following this video, and have downloaded the Palette Master Ultimate software. I am at the login step (2:12 in the video). First, I am asked for my email. I put in my yahoo email address. Then I am asked for my password. Is this my yahoo password? If yes, why would I need to give this information? I feel very nervous about giving my yahoo password to BenQ. But before that, I had to pick either google or apple. So this makes me wonder if I should be putting a google email and password in. Can you provide guidance? I'm going to hold at this step until I understand this better.
There's no sign in with yahoo option. I think it wants you to create an account. dm me about this
Hi Art,
My experience is not the same as yours.
Calibrated my BenQ SW270C today.
Using PME = got Ave delta E 1.05 Max delta E 2.37
Using PMU = got Ave delta E6.95 Max delta E 16.5
Same monitor, same Colorchecker display pro using mainly defaults, just changed luminence to 100.
This is not good. Which is correct?
Roy Sletcher
It is not which is correct, it is that one just fails validation. The question is why? It would be great to get a log. If you sign into PMU, create an account. On the Home Screen there an "I" in the circle on the bottom left, click on that, choose account and then choose Export Log ID, this will send an error log directly to BenQ. Once you click on it, a dialog will pop up with the Log ID number, if you email or dm this to me I can send it BenQ for further investigation. Otherwise you can find the log file at C:\\Users\(User Account)\AppData\Local\BENQ\PaletteMasterUltimate\log either email me the ID or log and we can investigate further.
In addition to this what display Cale are you using and what video card? If Nvidia or AMD are you using their pro driver - Nvidia would be Studio Driver and AMD would be Fire Pro driver. If not please try that first. Also please send me the validation report as well this way we can see where the validation fails.
...ok...
@@ArtIsRight I've got a similar problem. SW240, Windows 11, Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 with latest Studio driver, i1 Display PRO (11 years old). Calibration Failed with Average Delta E*00 = 2.32, Max Delta E*00 = 4.91. Tried a couple of different Calibration Targets and getting Calibration Fails.
INTERESTING! I have my PC driving 2 monitors with Extend Displays, however the second (non Benq) monitor was switched off. After reading @karlkirkman300's thread I turned the second monitor on and re-ran the calibration with success!👍
when using benQ Palette master ultimate which calibrator do I select in the list for Datacolor spyderX Pro that does not show up
Scroll down on that list, it is in there.
Is there any chance that my BenQ SW320 will be supported in the future?
FYI I tried both blackpoints (absolute blackpoint and 0.3 cd/m2). I think absolute blackpoint looks best.
For PMU absolute black is going to be best. Only the current SW in the line up and future ones are supported.
I downloaded the program and then saw my spyder 5 elite isn't in the list of supported hardware. With PME I got avr delta of .75 and max delta of 1.77. I have to think twice about getting the colorimeter you suggest considering the cost. I'd like the feature of syncing with the win OS when changing calibrations on the hot puck but it isn't hard to switch default icc defaults in windows. How much bettter than the avr delta of .75 could I really get?
∆e is one variable that is easy to compare and assess but not necessary the end all be all. For now if you don't want to get a new calibrator just stick with PME. PMU uses a new algorithm and overall it does a much better job calibrating the display. As far as Spyder 5 for so many engineering and technical reason, the sensor inside spyders in general is not good, especially in dark and black tones. If you are ok with what you have, stick with it. When you are ready for a move consider Calibrite devices instead and with that you can use PMU with it too.
I just got a new SW240 monitor. However, when i installed BenQ's palette master ultimate, it could not detect the monitor no matter what I did.
I am connecting it with a USB-C to displayport, together with the USB to USB upstream cable to my lenovo legion laptop but it still does not detect it in the software.
I tried uninstalling and redownloading 5 times but it didnt work.
I tried it with my Spyder X2 and the monitor could be detected by the spyderX software.
Still, I cannot get palette master ultimate to detect my monitor. I've contacted the helpline and they said to use their displayport to mini displayport cable, but my laptop has no mini displayport slot at all.
Do you happen to know how do I fix this issue? Even the customer support is not being helpful at all. Its been really frustrating with this first monitor that i got from BenQ
I tried uninstalling and redownloading 5 times but it didnt work.
Usually if you do it once or twice and it does not work, it is usually another issue.
I tried it with my Spyder X2 and the monitor could be detected by the spyderX software.
The reason is Spyder software is doing a software calibration not hardware, so it does not need to talk with the chip inside the display.
Still, I cannot get palette master ultimate to detect my monitor. I've contacted the helpline and they said to use their displayport to mini displayport cable, but my laptop has no mini displayport slot at all.
"displayport to mini displayport cable" they are telling you the wrong thing.
Do you happen to know how do I fix this issue? Even the customer support is not being helpful at all. It's been really frustrating with this first monitor that i got from BenQ.
Dm me in fb page, insta or email me and we'll go from there
I discovered the problem from watching your other videos regarding PMU. I slowly pieced together what was the issue after seeing the steps you took.
I had to delete the driver that I got from palette master ultimate file and install the drivers under SW240 monitor section on the website. Once I tried it again with my USB-C display port + the uplink cable, it finally worked.
Thank you so much for your help. Your videos and advice are way better than the customer service of benQ. I really appreciate it 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻. I can finally use my monitor without frustration.
Awesome
Hi!
I have a BenQ SW271C connected via DP but I always fail the calibration (I'm using the spyderX pro)
If I follow all your steps, the monitor will turn horribly green.
Any suggestion? Can I send to you the report?
dm or email me. Something is going on with your system that is interfering with this. Is this a desktop or laptop, if desktop, are you using a separate GPU, if so are you using nVidia Studio driver for nVidia card or AMD pro driver for AMD card. Game driver will not work well.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for replying!
I'm on a desktop.
CPU: Ryzen 5 3600
RAM: 16gb
GPU: Radeon RX480
Drivers: i guess the consumer you download from their site, AMD Adrenalin.
Trying now with AMD PRO Drivers👍
@@ArtIsRight Small update:
VALIDATION PASSED!
avg. Delta: 0.60
max. Delta: 2.16 (patch n.16)
I can't believe drivers could play such a huge roles!
Thanks for the input!
Awesome!
It’s really frustrating that when I assign number one on my puck during the calibration process, it doesn’t actually work. If I want to switch to SRGB and push number two, then I push number one again. It goes to BenQ’s default profile not my calibrated profile thank you Support says this is normal behavior, which seems kind of silly to even, use the puck when calibrating
Let me clarify, when calibration you are not assigning the calibration slot or number to the puck, far from it, you are choosing the hardware calibration slot to store the 3D LUT in, that is simply what is happening. The puck has nothing to do with any of this process. If you want to learn how to get the most of your puck watch this ua-cam.com/video/NvnHZW-HToA/v-deo.html
@@ArtIsRight thanks I’ll check out the link. My hope was to be able to toggle between the calibrated profile and srgb. And once I click a button on the puck the only way to get back to the calibrated profile is manually every time I turn on the computer.
They video will walk you through how to do just that
Thanks for the rundown. Super excited to see that switching the display profile on the puck is now also altering the ICC profile on my machine. Any input on why they would put the softproofing preset at 160 cd/m^2? Seems to fly in the face of the common reference of around 80 (note, test prints not yet done).
Again starting point for individual user customization. Also reference for print is a bit higher usually at 100-120 nits. But calibrating for proof at D50 our perception of color and brightness changes drastically at that white point, 160 is a suitable starting point, especially when considering that proper print viewing is done with a well illuminated viewing booth.
@@ArtIsRight thanks for the insight!!!
:)
@@ArtIsRight 160 is the specified luminance for Adobe 1998 so that's probably why the default presets are at 160. I know digital techs in the photo industry often have various settings - indoor vs outdoors for brightness (ie. 160 indoors, max brightness outdoors). For similar use cases, would you suggest calibrating at both points and just switching between them?
sure
Hi Art, when starting a calibration with PMU my Windows 10 PC locked up and my SW321C screen displayed black for the entire screen. I was using the Eye1 Pro (mark 1) device, so this might be the cause of the failure. I selected the Eye1 Pro 2 as the device which PMU appeared to accept successfully. Do you think the Eye1 Pro is the the problem or are there other things I should be checking. I am able to use the latest version of PME with the Eye1 Pro without problems and with good results.
This is interesting. I'll report this to BenQ. i1Pro is a really old device and I don't even have one in the studio to test out. Either way, if you sign into PMU, create an account. On the Home Screen there an "I" in the circle on the bottom left, click on that, choose account and then choose Export Log ID, this will send an error log directly to BenQ. Once you click on it, a dialog will pop up with the Log ID number, if you email or dm this to me I can send it BenQ for further investigation.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks very much for replying. I’ll do as you have suggested.
When you do that please share with me the Log ID number
Also where did you connection the i1Pro to the computer or the display?
@@ArtIsRight- thanks for your interest in this - the i1pro was connected to the display.
Do we need to load the profile created each time we switch from a calibration to another for example d65 and d50 memorized in the control or since is hardware calibrated is automatically loaded
Yes you still need to change profiles.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you, many ambassador on youtube deliver wrong information, the advanced to have hardware calibration is just to avoid to calibrate and change setting in the monitor every time we switch from a calibration to another but have already stored on the controller
Thank you, I am aware of misinformation. There are other advantages as well.
Will Palette Master Ultimate support SW271?
Only current SW models in the line up are supported. SW is a previous gen so you would have to continue and use Palette Master Element
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for your prompt reply ! 😊😊
Will the calibration still be good when i use windows dark?
you mean dark mode, sure, it does not change the calibration
Going back to Eizo. Does the new app also control the correct loading of ICC profiles when changing custom color mode 1-3?
Not in SW...
I have a new SW271C monitor. Tried numerous RGB calibrations. Each one gives a failure message with excess Delta on the report page. Not at all clear as to how to proceed. Using a SpyderX pro
I need more data to go by and diagnose the issue. Best to dm me on fb page or insta if you can
@@ArtIsRight same issues to me.
Any updates?
Are there any updates with BenQ Palette Master on the new Calibrite Display SL device?
Calibrite Display SL will not be compatible with Palette Master Ultimate
Hi Art I can't download PMU. It keeps buffering when I press download. Why is that?
that is their website and CDN, I have no clue, try another browser or computer.
Hi Art I am using sw240 windows 11 Pro and trying to run PMU. But the calibration result failed. The maximum delta E about 4.17. What should I do? Thanks if you can help
If you are using HDMI, change to display port, make sure that you are running pro driver and not game driver, Nvidia studio driver or Fire Pro for Radeon
@@ArtIsRight yes I'm using display port and Quadro p400 but not sure which driver...
I'm using NVIDIA Quadro P400.
Driver version is 30.0.14.7247
Hi Art, I passed the calibration. It may be that I used Adobe RGB mode before, after I tried to use Panel Native, the result passed. Anyway thanks for your kind response.
You're welcome!
I tried to use it ... but it gets stucked after selection V4 and click next. It stop responding and even the monitor is not able to be shut down with the ON/OFF button.
Yes that is because PMU lock the display, to reset this you have to pull the power cord out. As far as why it freezes, there are so many variables. I would reach out to your local BenQ support for help on this. Or if you want my help, you can dm me
I like that it goes straight into the validation for you and the dialogs are probably better than before. But my main issue is that the grayscale calibration has a bad kink in it right at about level 153 or so. My black and white images show it clearly. It's a faint red shift. In other areas, like deep shadows, it goes toward the green. Put up a continuous gray scale wedge and it's pretty obviously not a neutral scale. Maybe they just made sure the 12 points in their validation report were spot on.
I didn't observed this. What computer, os, cable used and calibrator. Also what calibration setting did you use. I like to track this.
@@ArtIsRight I typically use 5600K, and either 100 cd or 70 cd, and either panel native or sRGB.
If it's sRGB, then I use sRGB gamma. If it's panel native, I use gamma 2.2.
Blsck point is 0.3.
Ive fiddled around a lot and never gotten rid of it but I can see it change some, so I think the hardware is capable, but the way the software builds the calibration prevents it. Like the matrix or curve fitting, interpolation, etc is not right. It's almost like they used to high polynomial curve fit because the result is so bumpy. Again, it's not a horrible unusable result, but it's pretty clear on a nice b&w image that there's reds and some greens in it.
Computer is windows 10 or 11
Update:
With the new Ultimate program, the old problem is mostly gone, but now I can't get rid of green shadows
What calibrator and display model?
@@ArtIsRight it's an i1Pro and a sw270c. I've had some improvements. Pallette master isn't as good as i1profiler still. It crashed when I used a custom white point from my other monitor. I think pallete master doesn't do as well with the 70cd I was using or the 5600k. This could be an issue because of the older i1Pro, but i1profiler was able to handle it just fine.
In my latest attempts, I've used 80cd and 6000K and it did better. Raising the black point a little off of absolute zero might be helping. My worst results were with absolute zero. I'm not really satisfied with the results of their algorithms but it's usable. They should be going lower than a gray level of 40, I'd like to see a 16.
I just read here that v4 is better. Why is that? I've been using v2.
I have an SW272Q and an SW270C and neither shows up as connected. Why not?
probably using either a Display Port or HDMI connection, and you don't have the USB uplink between your computer and displays.
Hi, I had a perfect report with Palette Master Element but when I tested the Ultimate version the final report was bad, the screen remained red with no shut off possibility and the USB of Calbrite Coler Checker Pro is no more recognized...
Seems like there's a lot of variables, please dm me if you can on fb page or insta. I want to figure out what is going on and report this to BenQ
@@ArtIsRight I can't find your adress...
insta @artisright or you can email me as well
An update on the situation for anyone reading this comment in the future. The issue has been resolved after some trouble shooting and diagnostics. Cause is unknown, Display port was clean and reseated. And PME along with i1Profilier were removed from the PC. Based on the feed back that I have seen so far this is an isolate incident. And in short everything is good with PMU!
i dont see Datacolor SpyderX Elite on the dropdown menu does Paletter Master Ultimate not support it
Spyder X regardless of versions are supported. Just choose Spyder X, what makes it elite or pro is the Spyder software which you are not using when PMU is running.
BenQ SW 2k model if once calibrated monitor then is doesn’t need calibration again like every 4 week??? Once done forever.
Not quite, everything shifts over time. Calibration can be done once sure, but the longer you wait till next calibration the more things have slightly shift. These changes occur so slowly, our eyes cannot see or detect the changes from day to day and even over time because we are "used" to it but that is a bad road to go down.
@@ArtIsRight means doesn’t need to calibrate every 4 or whatever weeks?
This means that you should recalibrate your display every so often. The interval is up to you. But it is recommended that you do it at least every 4 weeks. It is not just one and done.
Interesting looking software. However when I loaded PMU and tried to run it, the ICC profile won’t generate. I get a warning message telling me the ICC profile set failed. Doesn’t seem to matter what settings I try.
This is interesting. I'll report this to BenQ. If you sign into PMU, create an account. On the Home Screen there an "I" in the circle on the bottom left, click on that, choose account and then choose Export Log ID, this will send an error log directly to BenQ. Once you click on it, a dialog will pop up with the Log ID number, if you email or dm this to me I can send it BenQ for further investigation.
Just sent the number via DM. Thanks for the help.
So, after playing around with the software, I finally found the source of the issue. I use a laptop, and my SW270C is the second screen. When the SW270C is on and plugged in (usb-c), the laptop was set to display second screen only. This was fine for PME, but apparently not for PMU. For the new software to work, the display has to be set to extend. After I switched the screen display to extend, the software worked fine.
Glad you figured this out. PME should have not allowed the calibration to go through either.
Is this only for BenQ monitors?
As far as I can find from their web site it's just for some of the latest BenQ monitors (2019 or later). Wish they would at least support back to the SW2700PT.
For BenQ current SW line up only.
@@ArtIsRight I have an SW320 and an SW321C in a dual monitor configuration on Windows 10. If I understand you correctly, PMU isn't for the SW320 (because it's not current), but is intended for the SW321C? That would mean I have to use PME to calibrate the SW320 and PMU to calibrate the SW321C?
@davidallen1019 correct. 2 software. You can use PME for both, but I feel that PMU is going to produced a much better results then PME on the SW321C. Cheers
Can you use Spyder calibrators for the new SW display on Mac?
Only Spyder X as of now. Spyder X2 support will come later with PMU
@@ArtIsRight ok. Thanks.
My spyder 4 is not listed, do i need to buy another calibrater?
Yes time to upgrade, I recommend Calibrite ColorChecker Display Pro or ColorChecker Display Plus. Their sensor is much better than spyder.
@@ArtIsRight managed to get a ColorChecker Display Plus from amazon warehouse £50 cheaper! great tool thanks for the recommendation
this doesnt work with a sw2700?
Only current generation SW displays.... SW2700PT was discontinued a while back....
MacOS 14.4 MacBook Air M1 external SW240 colour become very strange once reboot, need to go in system setting and select other profile and switch back to the calibrated profile to make it become normal, anyone notice this?
Bug in the OS, I'll check and verify this but 14.4 has been really buggy
ua-cam.com/video/8M0D_oWOqec/v-deo.html@@ArtIsRight
Do black point must set to absolute zero？
nope you can change it
Art, like I said before, you get better deta E because the calibrating device is not moving. For years, Xrite software forced the user to remove the device from the display and put it back in for the validation.
Check it with the Calibrite software and ignore the instruction to remove the device after completed calibration, do not touch it and go to the validation process. My deltaE max is 1.2 in such case. Move the device and you get much worse results on validation
ok
How to calibrate PD2500q which device need to attach to calibrate if someone please help
Mac ua-cam.com/video/C0mti4BguiY/v-deo.html
PC ua-cam.com/video/Pw5TUchtP5U/v-deo.html
Windows only?
For now, Mac version will come in a few week.
Can I use Spyder x2 ?
yes
I just spent two hours texting with a fabulous BenQ source because I couldn’t calibrate my BenQ SW321C at all. The ultimate and the essential could not see my monitor. so after lots of trying of different things, I now need to buy a DPI to DPI cord AND a USB A to USB B cord to work with my custom built desktop. I am crossing my fingers that this will work. Right now I am using HDMI to just utilize my monitor but nothing is working to help me calibrate. I have only Thunderbolt C and DPI connections in my Graphics processor and the regular connections in my hard drive. Has anyone else had this problem? I can’t be the only one and I am still not sure that buying these new cords will work. It just seems strange. this was a custom built computer but with all the usual basic stuff. Just wondering if anyone else had this problem.
Dm me on insta or fb page. You have a lot of incorrect info that was told to you. Or email me
How do I email? Will try to find your info. Ugh!!!
Software looks good, but it keeps telling me the Co;or checker is not flat with the screen! Works ok with calibrate software.
Hmm, if you can dm me please. I like to get more info, picture and possibly error report.
@@ArtIsRight Reladed Elements which ran ok. Reloaded Ultimate which is now working ok. Strange
Great to hear!
I have Spyder 5, can't calibrate with this checker.
For a good reason, that device is really old and more so the sensor inside that device is not of good quality and does not yield good results.
I was going to purchase a BenQ monitor; however, I will not due to the fact that I would have to create an account to continue to use the calibration after 30 days. It's the same reason I use Adobe Lightroom Classic as opposed to CC. I want full control over my content. I do not want to be a hostage to a company to use their products. It is completely unnecessary to sign into an account to use the calibration features of this monitor.
that is your parogative
Won't run for me on Windows 11 with Spyder X. SW240.
crush or won't run. Wont run probably because something is conflicting some where.
@@ArtIsRight It runs and recognises the calibrator is there but can't connect to it.
Element runs fine. Some problem with the usb connection between the monitor and the PC
Is Spyder running in the background, if it does that is probably the issue. Quit that and it should work
Can you pin icc profile downlod link
why would you want this icc?
@@ArtIsRight want to install my pc benq bl2420pt ☹️
Paletter Master Ultimate like Palette Master Element only works with SW series, anything else you have to use the OEM software. This provide will not help any other display. It is Display specific.
It looks like the Mac version has not been released yet
in a few weeks.
spyder5 not supported :(
For a good reason, that device is really old and more so the sensor inside that device is not of good quality and does not yield good results.
It's well explained, but unfortunately Benq is seriously wrong with the colors or its color profiles compared to an Eizo, so I'll give my BenQ back. Everything I tried, especially in Srgb, is totally wrong
I have not found that to be the case, so interesting.
@@ArtIsRight
I understand color management, but when I use srgb mode on 4 different displays that can display over 90% srgb, the Benq is totally wrong with a clear red tint and a change in the blue tone, when I edit on the eizo color edge it shows up All except the benq are the same, I suspect that the monitor profile is not correct, regardless of whether it is calibrated or the color signals specified by benq
SW270C is supposed to be 100% sRGB, 97% P3, 99% Adobe RGB with Delta E below 2 and you got 3.43. Good god. And it's not a 10 bit. I'm shock Batman
That is factory spec, fully and acutely aware. ∆e below 2 is achieved from factory and in this calibration as well. As an educational point, when talking about display ∆e, the industry at large is referring to average ∆e, which in this calibration passes just fine at below 1, which is amazing. Max ∆e is for 1 color patch only and it is to highlight - more so to make aware that said color might show some slight variation. I see where you are pointing to and coming from but that is not the correct set of information that you have. And if you are looking for a true 10-bit, sure, go find one in the Eizo top end that costs 2-3 times as much. There are more to display bit depth than just spec, each to their own
What a waste of time watching the video and downloading the 'Ultimate' only to discover my SW2700-B is not supported. They build a monitor that is meant to stand up for years but consider it obsolete in a short period of time.
PME still works with your display.
Wow! This looks awesome Sir.
My Kind request to all SW2700PT user to give a 👍 to my comment if you are a SW2700PT MFG 2020/01 user. And Hit awesome 👍 on video before you leave.
Sir i want know will it work with older SW model display like me and most of the BenQ followers have.
My Display :
SW2700PT
Firmware 3
MFG 2020/01
Windows 10 Pro 64bit user.
I am currently still using PME ver 1.3.15. and noticed that Ver. 1.3.16 & 17 is no longer available for download. Ver. 15, Ver. 18 and Ver. 19 are only available currently.
I don't wanna keep my hopes up high, but if it works with SW2700PT FW3 MFG 2020/01 then i want to know more about it and how to use it on Windows 10/11.
Thank You Sir for sharing this valuable information and great video.
Support are for current SW & Future models :)
Oh cool animation. What a socialist venture so now I have to give my phone number email account and have permission from Taiwan to calibrate my f in monitor. Are people seriously going along with this agenda. So The international colour consortium creates generic profiles that are not specific. Why would I want this. Do I need to have a vaccine as well to calibrate my monitor. I like the way that as soon as i downloaded it it shut down my two other monitors. For F sake. I know lets make sure I can never work with out an account back to mother. Role on the digital currency.
lot to unpack, ok.