You may get a notice that the app is not from a verified developer. Here're steps to get around this 1. Find the app in the Application Folder 2. Right Click on the app and in pop up menu click on open. 3. A dialog will pop up asking if you want to open the app, click on Open. Now Palette Master Ultimate should run on your system.
This video saved me from going crazy.. I was using the calibriite color checker display pro with the software that came with it. The calibration from that versus this video, night and day difference. Thank you!
If you are running Ventura 13.4.1 my advice is be very careful installing and running Pallette Master Pro. I have just got off the phone with Apple technical help and after 3 hours they managed to get my Studio M2 back working. To cut a long story short I installed the latest version of Pallette Master and calibrated my SW271C with no issues. Used the computer for an hour and then sent it to sleep while I went off and did a few other things. Two hours later I came back and woke the Mac back up and was welcomed by a red screen and all apps giving crash reports. The Mac and monitor worked fine over HDMI but as soon as I plugged in the USB-C I got a red screen and crashes. Initially I thought I had a HW issues but Apple ran remote diagnostics and everything was fine. After he went digging and systematically removed Pallette Master and all the profiles it had added to the Mac thankfully it is now working. There must be a compatibility issue with Benq software and latest version of Mac OS. So be careful! I will contact Benq and let them know of my issues and hope they can fix the software. PS Great tutorial really appreciate it keep up the great videos
Several websites including Benq advise not using vga or hdmi for calibration. What is the best cable connection to use? I may buy the sw272 U. I haven't read the user guide, is there a walk thru about connecting all the cables that are provided? thanks for all the vids you make.
Art, another excellent tutorial. Excited to start using PMU. But one short coming straight away was no ability of custom naming Calibration slots yet again, unless I have missed that functionality or you didn't go over that. It is just a waste of time needing to memorize or look up what calibration type assigned I have assigned to each user Calibration slot. For example, I personally need a Rec709, Photography for print, Photography for web. My hope is my observation is wrong and BenQ has finally added this to the software, but if they have not, perhaps you could bend their ear. Thank you!
Nice video. Would like know more about the PMU settings recommended for a calibration within resolve and display cal in order to generate a LUT for a dedicated video out box.
REC 709, G2.4, Luminance as you like it, black point start with absolute and if that does not work well start to scale it up at 0.3 and perhaps 0.5 and you should be good to go
Great video and content as always. Can you please help me understand the reminder-function of PMU when it is time to make a new profile. It only seem to be a short notification badge in MacOS and not a constant status. Notifications in MacOS often disappear automatically after a few seconds making it impossible to manually check whether the calibration is OK or if it need to be recalibrated. In i1Profiler they change the color of the icon and that is something a user can see whenever. Besides the unclear way to see the status it also seem that this information not being synced to the three calibration slots. It is not always all three calibration-slots are recalibrated at the same time, so changing between them and having PMU change the OS to it's corresponding icc-profile should make a new analyze and information if recalibration is needed of that particular calibration-profile. And finally, there is a setting in the SW-display where I can change Cal.Reminder On/Off, so it seems like the hardware could make this reminder and not the OS, but changing this make no difference. All this should be a perfect topic for a separate video 🙂
Thanks for the great video. I purchased the X-Rite (Calibrite) Display Plus (ColourChecker) a while back and I'm now getting back into using it. I have a BenQ SW2700PT (HDMI) monitor. I want to set it up for my photo and printing needs. My question is, you created the profile in this video (as I am doing right now on my Mac), but what do you do next with that profile?
I don’t see panel native option and what black point would you recommend. Also do you have any plans to make full calibration for Mac with best results and accuracy
Hi Art. Thank you so much for your educational and interesting videos. I have a question that I hope to get an answer to. Does PalletteMasterUltimate have to be run in the background for my calibrations to work? Or can I completely shut down PMU when I've done my calibrations?. (SW271C) Thanks in advance Mickey
Hi - Thanks for sharing all your knowlege. Its been a great resource. Im in the process of calibrating my SW270C and SW240 using a Macbook pro M1, Calibirite Display Pro HL, Palette Master Ultimate with display port cables. I want both display to match, but after running several calibration and having a successful report saying the calibration has passed, the displays look different. I believe the SW270 is accurate, and the SW240 to be off. Any advice you can share to get them to match? Thanks
Are you using PMU display clone? ua-cam.com/video/25USQUQk_RA/v-deo.html if not I would start there. If you have any more question please start a new thread or dm me
If you get a hardware-calibrated display like BenQ SW, use the display manufacturer software, Palette Master Ultimate. It will only work on BenQ SW displays. For the iMac, use the calibrator software.
Great video. Just calibrated a SW270C w/Ultimate and x-Rite Studio Pro after doing a clean install of Ventura. Results were fantastic but my version ran 28 patches, not 18. Update to the software? Something else? Thanks
Art, thanks for the videos. I'm a video editor who works on a Mac Studio. Every time I use my X rite i1 Display plus to calibrate my BenQ SW270C Monitor, the colors themselves look good, but the monitor itself is very dim. But I can't adjust the brightness once I've calibrated it. Can you please advise me on which settings I need to use as I calibrate so that my monitor brightness is sufficient for proper use?
you need to find out the nit value that you wnat to work at and set that during calibration. 80-120 nits for SDR is not unusal, you can work in brighter but that is up to you.
As always, another fantastic video, Art! I see PMU suggests a USB-C connection in addition to DisplayPort. What is your take on that? Have you calibrated monitors with USB-C connection? Will it provide and advantage or result in disadvantage, or will it give equal results as with DP? Thank you.
Thank you. They are the same with more data being able to carry through over a smaller physical connection. USB C Technically uses Display Port Type Signal Overlay. So connection hierarchy goes, USB C, Display Port, HDMI, Legacy connectors.
I recently found your channel as I'm planning on purchasing the newly announced SW monitor. You have a lot of super informative videos that dive deep into calibration! But I am a newb when it comes to this. I currently use an Spyder sensor with my external monitor. What would be the main difference between using the Data Color program vs. the BenQ PMU? Will I get the same results? If I use the Data Color software, can I still save the profiles to the control puck? Lastly, what benefits does the black and white mode on the monitor provide for photo editing when color images can be converted to bw in Lightroom?
I can chip in on the data color/PMU question. If you purchase the latest SW monitor, you’ll get a much better calibration using the BenQ software as it will be true hardware calibration, in fact if you don’t use PMU, you won’t be getting 100% from your nice new monitor. Sadly, you might need to purchase a new calibration device as well, Calibrite’s Display Pro is pretty much the standard. See if you can get a deal on one when purchasing your monitor, companies in my Country often do a deal and discount around $50 off the price of a calibrator when purchased with a new monitor. Seeing as you’re new to monitor calibration (as we all were), your life is going to be made a whole lot easier with a SW monitor and the new PMU software, all you need to do us connect the monitor via USB-C, watch a couple of Art’s amazing videos and you’ll be good to go.
@@adam461smith hey thanks for your input! I’d rather not purchase a new calibration device and I think I heard Art say that the Data Color device was supported in PMU. That said, that’s a good tip to see if I can get a discount on the Display Pro, or at the very least upgrade to that at a later time. Thanks again!
Thank you @zadam461 @tofulosophy right now the only data color device that is supported is the Spyder X regardless of version, Older devices are not supported and for good reasons, their sensor are not good. And their newest Spyder X2 is really new that is not supported as of now, but will in the future.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for that info! I will look into Calibrite's offerings. Regarding the black and white viewing mode on the monitor, does it offer any benefits over just converting my photos in Lightroom Classic to a b&w file?
@@tofulosophy Although you can turn your monitor into black and white mode, it won’t actually alter the files on your computer, only how you view them. It’s my limited understanding that whilst in b&w mode, you can work more accuratly on b&w images as it displays more of a b&w tonal range, for the vast majority of people, if you want to convert and work on black and white images in lightroom/photoshop, you should be fine with the monitor in regular colour mode.
Great Video as always. On Osx with PMU, i store 2 calibration on the 2 SW slots. When I recall calibration 2 for example on the display, Osx changes automaticaly the calibration icc profile corresponding to calibration 2 slot. for the rec 709 default calibration, PMU created an icc profile BenQ_SW_Rec709.icc. Osx Activates it when I choose rec709 on the display. PME did not have this behavior. So my question is: with PME when we change active calibration slot on the creen, should we change icc profile of the screen in Osx ? If yes, And i choose a native profile of the creen (rec 709 for example) , which icc profile must we select on Osx?
Short answer is yes, you should change the Icc when color mode on the display change. For clarification REC 709, sRGB, Adobe RGB, etc on the display are factory pre calibrated color mode and not native profile. Now with that said if you choose REC 709 using the BenQ_SW_Rec709.icc that is included with the installation is not a bad idea.
@@ArtIsRight thank you for your quick answer. Before asking you, i found your tutorial on this subject :) : ua-cam.com/video/Cgo2p7jF3n0/v-deo.htmlsi=LYEGlDBXsn_lKmPT
thank you for your video. does palette master ultimate work also with "CALIBRITE color checker display by xrite" on MAC ? it is the basic model. If so what feature I could lose? Thank you
Great video as usual. Quick question, would you calibrate differently (i.e., temperature) if you know you'll be printing your images? I have read that using 5000K-5500K if printing is better that 6500K. I have calibration 1 at 5000K/70 candelas and calibration 2 at 6500K 90 candelas. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
If you print and use a pro viewing lighting or light that is calibrated to 5000 or 5500K then I would recommend that you start out with the soft proof preset in PMU. The luminance there is set to 160 nit but that number is a good starting point and it is one that makes sense considering fact that our eyes see less color and brightness at lower - warmer color temp. So start with the preset and adjust the luminance from there. You can always use D65 for print as well, just calibrate it as a lower nits. Personally I am fine with D65 but you can always experiment.
I use a Mac with HDMI, why isn't HDMI supported? After 3 tests with the new version, I always had failed results in all RGB colors and part of the grey - delta E was up to 17. The old version passed without error with delta E 1.47. 🤔
This causes a lot of arguments but people will say that you can’t use HDMI when it comes to professional monitors as it can’t carry enough of the bandwith ‘signal’, so to speak. I can only guess that’s why you are getting error messages, but I’m sure Art will help when he reads your comment. Some people swear that you can’t use HDMI, where as others say that you can, it may not help, but make sure that your HDMI cable is the latest 2.1 standard. I run a SW240 on a silicon Mac Mini and I connect using a USB-C to Display Port cable I purchased on Amazon along with a USB cable also connected. In theory, I only need the USB cable when calibrating, but I leave it connected all the time.
So the thing is this, that comment need to come with a big caveat. Can you use HDMI, yes, however, with Pro Hardware Calibrated display, it is one of those situation where you would have to run a calibration, and if it passes you are good, if it does not, like in you situation, it generally stems from 2 possible issues, one your HDMI is truncating the signal output instead of outputting 0-255 it is outputting 16-235, this would cause the failure, not much by way of fixing this on Mac. The other is on Mac depending on the resolution scaling, some of them are outputting YUV signal instead of full RGB signal, you can test this by changing the resolution on your Mac. I would give that a go first, and if that does not solve the issue, I would go with a USB C to C or USB C to Display Port.
@@ArtIsRight With the USB-C cable, the calibration was completed with a max delta E of 0.69. The Element version with the HDMI cable has no problem, but the Ultimate does. This is a Mac Studio with SW321C and I am a bit surprised, I will still try another HDMI cable.
Art, thanks for this excellent video.!!! I have a Problem trying to calibrare my sw270c with the xrite studio and I am not able to do it properly. Colours went wrong and even using adobe rgb from the monitor as it came, Colours seems vivid in the benq but when I move the image to my MacBook Pro M1 Max, colours appeared washed. Do you have and sugestion? Thanks a Lot. Alejandro
Thank you for producing very informative videos on this subject. I have looked at various monitors and have settled on the Benq SW270c and will also purchase either a Calibrite Pro or Plus device based on the help you have provided via your videos. Unfortunately, Calibrite have brought out new HL versions of these devices with updated software and my query is will the new calibration devices work with Palette Master Ultimate and the Benq SW270c monitor. I have messaged Benq's Technical Dept via their website and there response was they don't know as the new devices have not been assessed yet. Many thanks
@@ArtIsRight what if the profiles are set at different luminance and temperature values? Do those change automatically or need manual i.e. editing for web vs printing or video. Thanks
Hey Art, How do i assign the calibration 1,2,3 buttons on my 271c puck so it works with the calibration 1,2,3 in the palette master. its driving me crazy!
Great video as always, thank you! Quick question, I have both SW270C and SW2700 as a second monitor, will PMU recognize my SW2700? I can't see it in the display menu. And if it's not compatible, can I install again PME and keep both softwares? Hope I made my self clear. Thank you Art.
Do you still recommend a black point of 0.3nits for photography and can you even change it in PMU? Using Mac version doesn't seem to allow you to change it.
It does you have to go into edit target, for the most part with PMU, I'm ok with using Absolute black. And I have been getting good results, try testing it to see what you preferences is.
Hi Art, Thank you very much for this video. I just did my first calibration ever with your help. I just have one question. The report said Passed, but one number was far from yours. I used 2 different videos to do it. The video for Palette Master Element to get the settings for photography and this one because I am calibrating with Ultimate. My maximum Delta E was 0.93. Is that ok?
BenQ_SW_AdobeRGB is an approximate display profile that is generated from BenQ. It Is a reference profile and should not be used for display. Best to run the calibration with Palette Master Ultimate and disregard both of these.
I have an SW 271C and use a Macbook M1. For PME, you recommended specific settings (like Panel native, relative black, matrix, D65 White Point, luminance values). Are you now recommending the default settings in PMU? Or would you recommend that same as you did with PME? Thank you.
Hi I wanted to ask you something I also have SW270C but I don't understand why the current resolution is set to 3840x2160@60 and that instead Optimal resolution 2560x1440@60 but this panel the maximum resolution is not 2k? Currently I have connected it with MacBook Pro m4 mi and everything is so strange
I have a question for you. I just purchased the BenQ SW270c. When I open Palette Master Ultimate I display this message, "Monitor not supported or connected." How can I solve it? Another question: I have the Color Checker Display probe, is it compatible? Thank you
Just some information about my new Benq monitor SW321C. It worked perfectly for a week until I calibrated it using their new Palette Master Ultimate software. The calibration went well using a color checker display pro and passed I printed one photo using EPL on Epson P900 which went well. When I put another photo on EPL the EPL screen was half green vertically blocking half the photo. I can’t remember what I did next but the whole screen went red with a pop up saying PMU unexpectedly failed ie crashed. The monitor was dead even after factory re-set which was suggested by Benq. Benq are now sending a replacement monitor and have told me not to use PMU but to use PME while their engineers look at the problem. Im using a Mac mini computer not the M1 version. I am now using my 10 year old 24 inch Eizo with no problems. It just seems tiny. Plese see attached photo of red screen. Regards Mike
Hi Mike, thank you for the information on this. It is strange that this happens, I have calibrated numerous SW displays including SW321C using all variants of Apple Silicon and Mac and did over 50 calibration - so far so good. This could simply be a manufacturing or component defect and not necessary related to PMU. Personally I would say if you feel adventurous I would give PMU another try. However, if you don't want to do that I understand. What I can tell you is that PMU is much more thoroughly tested than software released from BenQ in the past. I'll share this case with my contact as well.
Reading this further, I'm not sure how this may be or not be related to EPL. This is interesting. One thing that you can try to do as well if you want to give PMU another try is to calibrate with PMU and then once you are done. Go to the menu bar and Quit PMU that is running in the background. Before you do anything else with the display and computer.
Hello, hope you doing great. First of all, thanks for ll the great videos in your channel. I'm new here, i mean on calibrate displays. I have just got the Benq SW272Q and the MacBook Pro M3 Max Sonoma 14.4.1 and I have several questions. 1. How you connect the display to the laptop? HDMI or usb-c 2. When i try to run the Palette master Ultimate app is doesn't detect my monitor. 3. I have the Datacolor SpyderX Elite, its ok for do the calibration? Thanks in advance for your help. Best regards
1. USC - C is always preferred. No truncated signal. 2. Could be that an HDMI is used and if so you'll need to use the USB up-link cable as well. 3. Spyder X will work Palette Master Ultimate to calibrate SW272Q It can calibrate your laptop display but you won't be able to get the full gamut from it. If you are looking for a new / upgrade to your device, my recommendation is Calibrite Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL. For a whole bunch of engineering and color reasons.
@@ArtIsRight thank you so much for you quick response, really appreciate it. Actually I just want to calibrate de monitor. My laptop is very new and seems to have very accurate the Colors so far. I will try again with the USB-c instead the HDMI 🙏🏻🥰
Is the ICCsync function with the hot puck calibration 1,2,3 is supposed to work on Mac ? On my side I went for a fresh calibration with PMU but I still need to manually select the correct color profile in Mac OS setting for each calibration I created when I switch calibration mode.
thanks for this video! when the profile is selected on the monitor (hardware profile), does it also need to be selected in the os system settings -> display too? or should it be set to default benq? cheers! tom
Yes but ICC Sync in Palette Master Ultimate helps with this ua-cam.com/video/Wf1naMT5Oew/v-deo.html you still need to quit the app and relaunch it though.
@@ArtIsRight thank you a lot! i've seen this in the display settings, but i wasn't sure if this is correct to have kinda two profiles applied at the same time - one on the monitor and one in the software. btw- i found you while searching for a tutorial covering this topic - a lot of nice content on your channel!! :-)
Hi. I get FAILED calibration calibrating my SW240 monitor with x-rite i1Display Pro. The average Delta E persistent;y showing Average 5.48 and Maximum 16.12 or thereabout after each recalibration. What could be the problem? Anyways, I have emailed the calibraiton report to you for your kind perusal. Much appreciate your help on the matter. Notwithstaning, I have updated my copy of Palette Master Element and the calibration is good.
I have similar result. SW240 + i1 Display Pro. Monitor connected via Display Port on Thunderbolt dock. Everything goes fine but fails validation miserably. Wondering if anything was figured out here?!? I also tried running PME, and it validated OK. But when trying to soft-proof a document I can tell some colors are far too vibrant for selected output intent, so not trusting the PME calibration.
Hello there. I have a question; I have two BenQ SW2 displays, one a couple of years old and the other just two days old. When resenting the color on both, the older monitions is warmer than the new one. Is this due to age/use? Both reset to Adobe RGB and I use the same profile on my Mac colour profile. Thanks. George
Thank you for your response.@@ArtIsRight Didn't realise the monitors description was missing two numbers. They are both BenQ SW240. I guess they can they be corrected to the same calibration using a calibrator? Thank you.
thanks for this great tutorial!!! when i calibrate the display in panel native gammut, which gamma setting do you recommend (i tried Standard Gamma and extended Gamma measurement) and how can i edit the black point? for now only absolute black is the only option (not 0,2 nit what you recommend in other tutorials)... thx!!!
Standard 2.2 is fine, you can use enhance gamma correct too. For black point, click on edit target, at the very bottom of the list there's an option for black point, in the drop down list choose custom and this is where you can type in a value. So far PMU has been rather good so I just set mine to absolute black. However, I do encourage you to experiment.
well the average delta e dropped from around 1 in pme to 0,4-0,5 in pmu and delta e max from 2-3 (pme) to around 1 (pmu) in all 3 settings (80cd, 120cd and max brightness, panel native color gammut and absolute black set as black point). which is really good i think!!! i'll try blackpoint of 0.2 next time i calibrate the monitor. thx for the help and your great work!!!
Hiya. I have a question about login. I've had SW240 for several years and have used previous iteration of PME, but because BenQ account was never required, I never made an account. Now that PMU asks to login if I want to keep using it, but for the life of me, I can't find a way to make an account and log in. Login via Google says "Unable to log in. It looks like something is wrong; please try again" without any success. How do I go about this? Thanks in advance.
I have done the login and it works just fine. You can always use it for 30 days without sign in. Also I found that when you get the unable to login, if you dismissed that dialog sometime it would then say that you are logged in.
Hi Art, Great video! After calibrating I can no longer adjust my brightness of my BenQ SW270c, in other screen settings I can. Is there a solution for? Thank you!
@@ArtIsRight Thank you very much for your comment! What do you mean by: by design? If I choose Adobe RGB, I can indeed adjust the brightness, but will I also be in a different color mode than the calibration I just performed with Palette Master Ultimate? Thank you very much!
Hello :) I watched your video because I want to calebrate my SW270c with the Display Pro HL. Why you choose the Calibrationtarget Rec? and not for example Adobe RGB? im confused to be honest @ArtIsRight
Because there are variations in settings that one can dial in. The settings are always the same for each discipline. Choose Adobe RGB and calibrate it with photo settings.
thanks for your fast answer...would you choose 120, 100 or 80 cd/m2 (im using it for Photography)? And is it good to make a Colorcalibration and also an advanced color adjustment. @@ArtIsRight
80-120 nits is a variable that you have to choose based on your environment and workflow. 100 may be a good start for most. I would not do advanced color adjustment if you don't have to
Hi Art...I ave a BenQ SW270C and a Colormunki Photo calibrator. I know you said in your video to chose iDisplayStudio from the drop down list. When I do that, nothing happens. I tested the unit with ccStudio and it is working correctly. I called BenQ tech support and they said it's not compatible??? Any suggestions??? Thanks.
I got it to work...finally. I redownloaded ccStudio and installed the XRD driver again. That did the trick. And yes...the Colormunki Photo does indeed work with PMU, despite BenQ telling me it wasn't compatible. Art is Right!
Hi there, thanks for the video. My display (SW272U) doesn't get detected via HDMI with my Mac mini M2 on the program. Do I have to use USB-C and not HDMI? That would make no sense and would be very annoying since I only have 1 free USB-C at the back that I need for my external monitor and I am working on a fix computer (not a laptop). Could you let me know? Thanks!
@@ArtIsRight Thanks! Ya no I know the source has to be selected and the monitor works via HDMI, but what I mean is that the calibration tool (palette master ultimate) does not see the monitor for calibration. I saw another one of your videos where you explain that HDMI is mainly for TVs and so and doesn't have the same amount of data than USB-C hence the issue. When I use USB-C it works just fine so will have to do that. Thanks and take care
Hi, I bought a BenQ SW2700PT about 3-4 years ago and strangely I don't find the color to be bang on when I compare it with my Imac 27'' or my Macbook pro 16 M1. Is there a way for me to calibrate my BenQ without a calibration tool like you use? Thanks in advance!
You are look at this the incorrect way, SW2700PT should be the primary and on the Mac and it should fall where they may. Not the other way around, Part of this is the color gamut difference and matte vs glossy display. If you have a late model you can try to calibrate in P3 gamut
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for your prompt response and for clarying all ot this, as when I was looking at a picture on my BenQ, the color always looked less aapealing than on my Asus monitor, my Imac or my Macbook pro. it makes it difficult though to correct a color on the BenQ whitout making it Pop out to much when viewing it on some other monitor screens!
My advice is to correct it so that it looks good on the BenQ, once you have it good there, it will look good on the other displays as well. You are finding out right now that it looks good on other "glossy" displays but not on the matted BenQ and this should really serves as a red flag for those that are viewing your work on none glossy display. This is one of the reason why you want to view your work matted, get it looking great on matted and it will look great on all other displays
My advice is to correct it so that it looks good on the BenQ, once you have it good there, it will look good on the other displays as well. You are finding out right now that it looks good on other "glossy" displays but not on the matted BenQ and this should really serves as a red flag for those that are viewing your work on none glossy display. This is one of the reason why you want to view your work matted, get it looking great on matted and it will look great on all other displays
I have a SW321c - I thought you could assign the three calibration slots chosen at the beginning of the PMU software to the "puck" buttons 1, 2 or 3. But for the life of me, I can't see how to do that. Is it super easy and I am just missing it? If you can't use the puck buttons for that purpose, how do you switch between the slots?
Great video, as always. At least from my experience, PMU is beta status software with many issues (macOS 13.3, Studio Ultra M1, two SW321C). I've read through the manual front-to-back. Just a few issues. First - if for some reason PMU freezes or gets stuck, the monitor remains in dimmed mode of the monitor selection even after PMU is exited or killed. The only way is to disconnect the monitor from power (pull the cable, on/off button not responsive). Second - after successful manual selection of the monitors, the calibration run for the first monitor could be completed successfully, but never for the second monitor. For every calibration run, only a single monitor can be connected. Third - depending on the monitor, 1 to 3 out of 4 calibration runs become stuck at calibration step 18 of 18 (killed after >1h). Fourth - in practice, the calibration of two monitors for 3 color spaces each (RGB, sRGB, DCI P3) takes a full work day. If you're lucky ! BenQ offers great hardware, but the calibration software has always posed too many issues. Which makes for an ambivalent experience, at least for me.
1. That happens when you program does not exit but rather killed / forced quit. It takes control of every aspect of the display, hence the power disconnect. 2. I have tested this successfully but I'll look at this again. There are some Mac side display recognition that happens. 3. Yes it should not take that long, hence the kill, which I understand leads to number 1. 4. It takes times but not the whole day, I have ran too many calibration on these to count. But I do see your point number 3. The main question here, is this a new Mac and setup as brand new or system migrated and /or restore from a Time Machine back up? I do hear you and in my testing and communication with BenQ, many of these issues that you speak of is largely related to Mac OS and the constant architecture changes. either way I'll share this with BenQ
Thanks a lot for your response, Art. The Studio Ultra was set up from scratch with macOS 12 in September 2022 and has received all updates to the current macOS 13.4.1 (c). No system migration or restoration from Time Machine back up. In order to make sure that none of the issues are related to hubs or other USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 devices, I disconnected them all. For the final tests, just the two or a single SW321C monitor/s were connected directly to the Apple Studio. For the time being, I went back to PME v1.3.19 which works well for my entire setup (with all devices incl. hubs connected). However, I very much look forward to a more stable version of PMU with its additional functionality - especially the ICC setting for both the monitor and macOS. Thank you so much for all your highly informative, excellent videos on youtube - on BenQ products, computers (Apple especially), software (e.g. Topaz), etc. !
just one question... pmu starts on every Startup of my system (i run macos monterey) but it's not selected as a startup program. is that a bug or a Feature?
Hi Art - GREAT informative, step-by-step video (y) I have followed your guidelines. Using the SW271C with mac studio. Calibrated Photography (defaults) - Adobe RGB, How can I calibrate in sRGB Mode :-)
I just bought a new Calibrate Display Plus HL it’s not on the calibrated pulldown menu and pallet master ultimate version 1.0.0.9. What’s the equivalent that I should use in a pulldown menu for calibrator?
@@ArtIsRight we have native white point though ... in any case given NOT the state of the art execution in deep shadows (proverbial you get what you pay for) one might want to forego attempts at tone correction and deal w/ the panel native response AS IS
Hi Art - HELP!! Running Mac Studio (Ventura 13.5.2) with BenQ 271C, Palette Master Ultimate with Datacolor Spyder X, I currently calibrate my monitor monthly. After the latest calibration when my Mac goes to sleep (when I am away fromthe machine) , on 'waking' my screen is Red! and all the toobar icons are grey! The only work-a-round I have found is to reboot my machine. I cannot use the 'apple' icon when the screen is 'Red' as the upper toolbar is flickering! The screen also flickers? This has only started since the last calibration. Contact with Apple - They suggest it is software related ?? Is this an issue with Palette Master? Any thoughts on the way forward with this? Any advice would be appreciated
Here are the steps to resolve the issue. 1. Unplug the USB-C cable 2. Copy /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.displays.plist to a different folder for backup, this can be your desktop *Note This is main library folder on your Mac, not the one hidden inside your user folder. This is a system auto generated file, so once you delete it, macOS will generate another one automatically. 3. Delete com.apple.windowserver.displays.plist in Preferences 4. Restart the mac 5. Reconnect the USB-C cable to the monitor
@@ArtIsRight - Hi Art, Thank you for the work-a-round, only issue is that the SW271C is my monitor (Using a Mac Studio) and you suggest disconnecting the USB-C cable? How should I connect the Mac Studio to the monitor if I have to disconnect the usb-c cable (Sorry!)
M1 Mac Studio running Sonoma 14- Profile created by PMU (when selected in Displays) exhibits aberrations in the blacks, noticeably different when looking at identical files in LRC (dev mode) and PS. When selecting packaged SWAdobeRGB profile in displays, black issue is remedied but color accuracy is way off . Why is the generated profile causing these problems?
This is a bug in MacOS and it has to do with graphic out. It effect all "M" series Mac. The work around for this right now is to set the gamma to sRGB. Not this is only the gamma curve and not the color gamut.
@@ArtIsRight Set the gamma to srgb in which interface? The edit target window? (Operating any wide gamut display in srgb defeats the purpose of spending the money on the display.)
@@ArtIsRight thanks, I will try that. However, the BenQ chatline help told me my X-rite Display Pro is no longer compatible and that I should reach out to them. I guess that’s why everything stays under DEMO mode in PMU and i1 Profiler. I guess I have to go spend more money and buy the Calibrate brand now since X-Rite is useless now.
My new BenQ SW272U monitor now crashes my Macbook Pro M2 every time it's connected. Is this a common problem? Sadly, I'll be returning the monitor and trying something else.
Not common and this is not supposed to happen. Without knowing specifics or knowing more about your setup. There's no much that I can do to help. If you like to try and solve this issue dm me on insta or fb page.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you! I'm currently working with Apple and BenQ - perhaps a faulty cable (though I don't think so)? If they cannot help, I'll dm you.
Is this software accurate on Sonoma? I tried using it (instead of the default calibrite software) and the color cast is very green and doesn't seem at all accurate. I have two SW321C's and the calibration seems way off between the two. I also can't seem to calibrate at all with HDMI because it won't recognize the HDMI connected display, but my MacBook Pro doesn't have enough Thunderbolt display ports so I have to use USB-C on one monitor and HDMI on the other, but I never had any variation between screens with the Calibrite software. It seems od that I'd have to calibrate with a USB-C cable and then use the HDMI after?
"It seems od that I'd have to calibrate with a USB-C cable and then use the HDMI after?" this is not advised. different signal output all together, you'll never get accurate color this way. Lots of issues on your end there. This should be approved one at a time. About your display not matching you can use PME Display Clone feature ua-cam.com/video/25USQUQk_RA/v-deo.html As far as accurate, they are. Green color is from the casting on the LCD panel itself, most likely. Calibrite software only does software calibration, but if you are happy using that just use that. I don't usually recommend using that because it is like buying a Ferrari to drive 10 mph in first gear all the time.
@@ArtIsRight thanks, hmmm, I just can't seem to get the BenQ software to get accurate color, and it doesn't recognize the HDMI connected monitor. So I can't even calibrate the second monitor at all. At least PMUltimate runs better than PMElements did. Progress. Thanks for trying to help!
You're welcome. "I just can't seem to get the BenQ software to get accurate color" Because of the color cast? And in relation to the 2 displays? Or what other displays or references are you using to determined relative familiarity of accuracy? "and it doesn't recognize the HDMI connected monitor" It would seems the HDMI works but you can't use PMU to calibrate, are you using a USB Uplink cable on the monitor that you are using HDMI? Yeah a lot of that variation is coming from HDMI vs USBC which runs on full RGB range 444 with display port overlay signal. HDMI may times have compress output range aka limited RGB to 16-235 and chroma subsampling down to 422 or 420. I would encourage you to find a way to use USB C on both. Perhaps a thunderbolt dock. "So I can't even calibrate the second monitor at all" That is the reason for the variation. To continue this diagnostic, I would advise that you dm me.
I already make some color tests and black point -Absolute Zero crushes blacks too much. I'm using Davinci resolve software and black point is not correct at all. Can you give resolve users some suggestions how to calibrate our SW monitors at rec 709 color space? Thank you!
why 'd you try to calibrate your monitor close to "Absolute Zero" when manufacturers own software ( BenQ PMU / PME ) does not dare to do verification ( after calibration and profiling ) close to that ?
Right now I would try 0.3 and let me run some test and get back to you. It may be that Photo is fine with absolute black but video may be 0.3, we'll see, thanks for letting me know.
So if I calibrate Photography Adobe Rgb, but if i later use the hot puck to select “Srgb”, do I need to manually to select the Benq profile for srgb ??
@@ArtIsRight Hi Art, thanks for your reply. I need to ask one question. After profiling and saving the icc profile using PMU on my Benq Sw272Q, do I need to go to MAC display and select the profile for the SW272Q? If I don't, how does the monitor know how to use the ICC profile?
Clearly explained, thanks. BTW, I had a funny thing. During calibration I received a phone call on my Mac. The PME software hung then. I even had to restart my Mac.
Had similar expierince yesterday. In OSX Sonoma i got some pop-up on the screen when getting a call (Asking if the phoe should be used for video or something". PMU did not like that.
Why This new version Palette Master ultimate doesn’t have option of Color panel like S, M and L for Large gives more color and Color panel instead only AdobeRGB AND so on??
"number of patches and colour panel instead of AdobeRGB that gives more colour?" you will have to elaborate on this further, I can infer but I'm not understanding this question in its entirety. Either way, as state the number of patches, which has nothing to do with the color gamut is no longer selectable, that is because this calibration is done on a new adaptive model with a baseline, something that was not done before. Hence the change. You are talking about Adobe RGB, are you referring to using Panel Native, if so this option is still there ua-cam.com/users/shortsJzd-AZx7nGo
@@ArtIsRight I couldn’t have more to say how great you are and I was never used to Monitor with hardware Calibration but now I bought Benq SW270c 2k instead of 4K due to budget Factor. I really appreciated your kindness and gorgeous help. I need more help is I calibrate Monitor white is D65, Luminance is 120, black gamma is Absolutely Zero for Daily use like Website, social media, client works and I believe I did right things for general use and I separately calibrated for print in different custom 1. Sometimes my raw photos look so less contrast, saturate and I believe what monitor see that’s real. Am I right? Correct me if I’m mistake. HDR features comes with Monitors doesn’t show active and is it because I used USB-C and any advice? - what is your knowledge of best Luminance Number Black gamma or gamut for general use? - what Colour and exposure or Luminance I see photos in Calibrated Monitor and I believe I see same in IPhone, iPad, website and other devices after export in Color Space sRGB? Please correct me if I wrong….
1. Sometimes my raw photos look so less contrast, saturate and I believe what monitor see that’s real. Yes you just need to edit more... HDR features comes with Monitors doesn’t show active and is it because I used USB-C and any advice? This is mostly controlled by the OS and not the display. - what is your knowledge of best Luminance Number Black gamma or gamut for general use? Luminance 80-120, black absolute is fine or 0.3, gamma 2.2 or video 2.4, gamut native. - what Colour and exposure or Luminance I see photos in Calibrated Monitor and I believe I see same in IPhone, iPad, website and other devices after not going go look quite the same too many variables, this kind of thinking can lead you down a deep rabbit hole, don't go there. ua-cam.com/video/QmyDEHNB1pQ/v-deo.html
Hi Great videos as always. I have one problem. I got the SW270C but when I launch PMU and press the "select monitor" dropdown I get the message "no supported monitor connected". Please help :) I recently updated to OSX Sonoma
Hi, just got an sw271c and downloaded the latest palette master for mac os. No supported monitor shows up and SpyderX shows as not connected. What an I doing wrong ?
@@jamesobrien9045 With PMU the only device from DataColor, the company who makes Spyder, is the Spyder X which is the device that came after Spyder 5. There's a new device at this point the Spyder X2 but that device is really new and not compatible as of now. I generally recommend Calibrite devices over Spyder for various engineering reason and with the new Spyder X2, they are priced at above Calibrite devices.
Hi there, unfortunately after installing pallet master ultimate and calibrating BenQ SW271C which I use in addition to a HP Z display, system setting on mac os ventura crushes and the display turnes red. Is anyone else getting this issue? Any advise on how to fix this is appreciated.
System setting crash could relate to PMU or not, most of the time I found that stems from an un resolved bug in Mac OS that is not necessary related to PMU. Display turns red is an issue where the LUT cannot be written to completely. I need more info to solve issue. Mac system, desktop, laptop, SoC (Chip) gen, Os Version, cable used to link Mac and display, calibrator device used. This would be a good start of issue isolation.
I had the same problem and am awaiting a replacement monitor. I was told that this is a very unusual problem, now I'm not so sure its unusual and will probably not use it again.
Display turning red, can be fixed by changing to one of the factory color mode, it is doing that because the communication between the display and computer got cut off. It is not necessary an unusual problem, it does happen occasionally with PME as well. For both of these cases, if you could reach out to me, dm or email, I like to get more info and possibly a log for BenQ
It does not need to be updated, Right click on the app and click on open, A dialog will pop up and then click on open again from there the app will run.
@@ArtIsRight I did that - software crashed part way through the calibration, completely corrupted my M1 mac on Monterey - would not connect to another monitor without crashing apps, turning display to monochrome. Had to completely rebuild my Mac from a clean install. Not happy!
Having issue with OSX Sonoma not updating icc profile after changing it on the BenQSW270C. Funny thing is it works sometimes but then just stops. Anyone seen this issue ?
Tried both v2 and v4 in Palette Ultimate software. The issue is for both BenQ pre-config icc profiels as well as for the calibrations done by myself. Using USBC to USBC on BenQ SW270C. Will try downloading BenQ Display pilot and see if there is any difference. @@ArtIsRight
@@ArtIsRight Hi, i have tried some thing if it might be of interest. I tried to change permission on the folder ColorSynd in Libraries. Did work first but after restart of computer not working any more. Did a new calibration and closed the PMU, checked in Apple Colorsync-tool and noticed all calibrations made by PMU get an error "MD5 checksum is incorrect". I repair it (Not sure if this is critical or not). But I can for sure say one thing. If it works and I reboot my computer it stops working. PMU is running in the background, that's confirmed. But if I close that process and restart PMU and then select "Exit" in the software so it goes back to working in the background it works again.
@@ArtIsRight Seems to be a combination if screen is set to wake up via USB and if PMU is set to open or run in background at start. Emailed BenQ all my tests. But you're the BenQ ObiOne so hope you find the bug =) Thx for great content !
@@ArtIsRight thx the new software make the display a bit darker/ dim both set to 120 but the result seems different ... And color colder... Now doing 2nd cal with notebook lip close see it this help
@@mr.kentam With that specific color spectrophotometer device I also notice that the color is cooler. I'll find out more about this. Please follow up with me a few days by starting a new comment, I'll share what I found out
@@ArtIsRight Affordability is not an issue - it's costs as much as an XDR display while you get so much more. The real issue is with the comfort and eye-strain. Unless they solve vergence-accommodation conflict, there might be an issue. However, seeing and image blown up to 100ft seems like a dream
You may get a notice that the app is not from a verified developer. Here're steps to get around this
1. Find the app in the Application Folder
2. Right Click on the app and in pop up menu click on open.
3. A dialog will pop up asking if you want to open the app, click on Open.
Now Palette Master Ultimate should run on your system.
This video saved me from going crazy.. I was using the calibriite color checker display pro with the software that came with it. The calibration from that versus this video, night and day difference. Thank you!
You’re welcome, it’s just really different software for different purposes
If you are running Ventura 13.4.1 my advice is be very careful installing and running Pallette Master Pro. I have just got off the phone with Apple technical help and after 3 hours they managed to get my Studio M2 back working.
To cut a long story short I installed the latest version of Pallette Master and calibrated my SW271C with no issues. Used the computer for an hour and then sent it to sleep while I went off and did a few other things. Two hours later I came back and woke the Mac back up and was welcomed by a red screen and all apps giving crash reports. The Mac and monitor worked fine over HDMI but as soon as I plugged in the USB-C I got a red screen and crashes.
Initially I thought I had a HW issues but Apple ran remote diagnostics and everything was fine. After he went digging and systematically removed Pallette Master and all the profiles it had added to the Mac thankfully it is now working. There must be a compatibility issue with Benq software and latest version of Mac OS. So be careful!
I will contact Benq and let them know of my issues and hope they can fix the software.
PS Great tutorial really appreciate it keep up the great videos
Good to know, I'll pass this along....
Have the same problem..
Several websites including Benq advise not using vga or hdmi for calibration. What is the best cable connection to use? I may buy the sw272 U. I haven't read the user guide, is there a walk thru about connecting all the cables that are provided? thanks for all the vids you make.
USB C or Display Port
Thank you for this!! My wish list for Benq is for them to create a 27” 5K SW monitor pretty please 😊
You and me both!
Thank you for the video. How do you set scaling/resolution from your Mac on benq SW?
Do it from system preferences or system settings ua-cam.com/video/4U3eh_fMo4o/v-deo.html
Art, another excellent tutorial. Excited to start using PMU. But one short coming straight away was no ability of custom naming Calibration slots yet again, unless I have missed that functionality or you didn't go over that. It is just a waste of time needing to memorize or look up what calibration type assigned I have assigned to each user Calibration slot. For example, I personally need a Rec709, Photography for print, Photography for web. My hope is my observation is wrong and BenQ has finally added this to the software, but if they have not, perhaps you could bend their ear. Thank you!
You can, just change the name of the default icc, you can just type in that box.
Nice video. Would like know more about the PMU settings recommended for a calibration within resolve and display cal in order to generate a LUT for a dedicated video out box.
REC 709, G2.4, Luminance as you like it, black point start with absolute and if that does not work well start to scale it up at 0.3 and perhaps 0.5 and you should be good to go
Great video and content as always. Can you please help me understand the reminder-function of PMU when it is time to make a new profile. It only seem to be a short notification badge in MacOS and not a constant status. Notifications in MacOS often disappear automatically after a few seconds making it impossible to manually check whether the calibration is OK or if it need to be recalibrated. In i1Profiler they change the color of the icon and that is something a user can see whenever.
Besides the unclear way to see the status it also seem that this information not being synced to the three calibration slots. It is not always all three calibration-slots are recalibrated at the same time, so changing between them and having PMU change the OS to it's corresponding icc-profile should make a new analyze and information if recalibration is needed of that particular calibration-profile.
And finally, there is a setting in the SW-display where I can change Cal.Reminder On/Off, so it seems like the hardware could make this reminder and not the OS, but changing this make no difference.
All this should be a perfect topic for a separate video 🙂
Thank you and I'll share this with BenQ.
Thanks for the great video. I purchased the X-Rite (Calibrite) Display Plus (ColourChecker) a while back and I'm now getting back into using it. I have a BenQ SW2700PT (HDMI) monitor.
I want to set it up for my photo and printing needs. My question is, you created the profile in this video (as I am doing right now on my Mac), but what do you do next with that profile?
the software will setup the profile with the OS and that is about it
I don’t see panel native option and what black point would you recommend. Also do you have any plans to make full calibration for Mac with best results and accuracy
That is coming. Access panel native by clicking on edit target and choose native under gamut.
Hi Art.
Thank you so much for your educational and interesting videos.
I have a question that I hope to get an answer to.
Does PalletteMasterUltimate have to be run in the background for my calibrations to work? Or can I completely shut down PMU when I've done my calibrations?. (SW271C)
Thanks in advance
Mickey
You can completely close it down, but it runs in the background for this reason ua-cam.com/video/Wf1naMT5Oew/v-deo.html
Hi - Thanks for sharing all your knowlege. Its been a great resource. Im in the process of calibrating my SW270C and SW240 using a Macbook pro M1, Calibirite Display Pro HL, Palette Master Ultimate with display port cables. I want both display to match, but after running several calibration and having a successful report saying the calibration has passed, the displays look different. I believe the SW270 is accurate, and the SW240 to be off. Any advice you can share to get them to match? Thanks
Are you using PMU display clone? ua-cam.com/video/25USQUQk_RA/v-deo.html if not I would start there. If you have any more question please start a new thread or dm me
Do you recommend using that software or the software from the calibrator? Does that software work with other monitors like my 2021 iMac?
If you get a hardware-calibrated display like BenQ SW, use the display manufacturer software, Palette Master Ultimate. It will only work on BenQ SW displays. For the iMac, use the calibrator software.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks a lot, I appreciate it.
Great video. Just calibrated a SW270C w/Ultimate and x-Rite Studio Pro after doing a clean install of Ventura. Results were fantastic but my version ran 28 patches, not 18. Update to the software? Something else? Thanks
28 patches is a calibration with enhanced gamma calibration selected.
Art, thanks for the videos. I'm a video editor who works on a Mac Studio. Every time I use my X rite i1 Display plus to calibrate my BenQ SW270C Monitor, the colors themselves look good, but the monitor itself is very dim. But I can't adjust the brightness once I've calibrated it. Can you please advise me on which settings I need to use as I calibrate so that my monitor brightness is sufficient for proper use?
you need to find out the nit value that you wnat to work at and set that during calibration. 80-120 nits for SDR is not unusal, you can work in brighter but that is up to you.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks. Will do!
As always, another fantastic video, Art! I see PMU suggests a USB-C connection in addition to DisplayPort. What is your take on that? Have you calibrated monitors with USB-C connection? Will it provide and advantage or result in disadvantage, or will it give equal results as with DP?
Thank you.
Thank you. They are the same with more data being able to carry through over a smaller physical connection. USB C Technically uses Display Port Type Signal Overlay. So connection hierarchy goes, USB C, Display Port, HDMI, Legacy connectors.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you, Art! So USB-C connection is safe to use for color profiling, correct?
Totally, has been for years now :)
@@ArtIsRight Fantastic! Thank you, Art...Your are awesome!
we have to buy the calibrator tools first,...right ?
correct
I recently found your channel as I'm planning on purchasing the newly announced SW monitor. You have a lot of super informative videos that dive deep into calibration! But I am a newb when it comes to this. I currently use an Spyder sensor with my external monitor. What would be the main difference between using the Data Color program vs. the BenQ PMU? Will I get the same results? If I use the Data Color software, can I still save the profiles to the control puck? Lastly, what benefits does the black and white mode on the monitor provide for photo editing when color images can be converted to bw in Lightroom?
I can chip in on the data color/PMU question. If you purchase the latest SW monitor, you’ll get a much better calibration using the BenQ software as it will be true hardware calibration, in fact if you don’t use PMU, you won’t be getting 100% from your nice new monitor. Sadly, you might need to purchase a new calibration device as well, Calibrite’s Display Pro is pretty much the standard. See if you can get a deal on one when purchasing your monitor, companies in my Country often do a deal and discount around $50 off the price of a calibrator when purchased with a new monitor. Seeing as you’re new to monitor calibration (as we all were), your life is going to be made a whole lot easier with a SW monitor and the new PMU software, all you need to do us connect the monitor via USB-C, watch a couple of Art’s amazing videos and you’ll be good to go.
@@adam461smith hey thanks for your input! I’d rather not purchase a new calibration device and I think I heard Art say that the Data Color device was supported in PMU. That said, that’s a good tip to see if I can get a discount on the Display Pro, or at the very least upgrade to that at a later time. Thanks again!
Thank you @zadam461 @tofulosophy right now the only data color device that is supported is the Spyder X regardless of version, Older devices are not supported and for good reasons, their sensor are not good. And their newest Spyder X2 is really new that is not supported as of now, but will in the future.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for that info! I will look into Calibrite's offerings.
Regarding the black and white viewing mode on the monitor, does it offer any benefits over just converting my photos in Lightroom Classic to a b&w file?
@@tofulosophy Although you can turn your monitor into black and white mode, it won’t actually alter the files on your computer, only how you view them. It’s my limited understanding that whilst in b&w mode, you can work more accuratly on b&w images as it displays more of a b&w tonal range, for the vast majority of people, if you want to convert and work on black and white images in lightroom/photoshop, you should be fine with the monitor in regular colour mode.
Great video's! Question I'm using a Mac Mini Pro M2 and OS I just upgraded to Sonoma 14.5 some issues failed callabrtion?
dm me on fb or insta, there's more information that I need to help. It will be faster that way
Great Video as always. On Osx with PMU, i store 2 calibration on the 2 SW slots. When I recall calibration 2 for example on the display, Osx changes automaticaly the calibration icc profile corresponding to calibration 2 slot. for the rec 709 default calibration, PMU created an icc profile BenQ_SW_Rec709.icc. Osx Activates it when I choose rec709 on the display.
PME did not have this behavior. So my question is: with PME when we change active calibration slot on the creen, should we change icc profile of the screen in Osx ? If yes, And i choose a native profile of the creen (rec 709 for example) , which icc profile must we select on Osx?
Short answer is yes, you should change the Icc when color mode on the display change. For clarification REC 709, sRGB, Adobe RGB, etc on the display are factory pre calibrated color mode and not native profile. Now with that said if you choose REC 709 using the BenQ_SW_Rec709.icc that is included with the installation is not a bad idea.
@@ArtIsRight thank you for your quick answer. Before asking you, i found your tutorial on this subject :) : ua-cam.com/video/Cgo2p7jF3n0/v-deo.htmlsi=LYEGlDBXsn_lKmPT
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thank you for your video. does palette master ultimate work also with "CALIBRITE color checker display by xrite" on MAC ? it is the basic model. If so what feature I could lose? Thank you
That is a basic model and it won't work with PMU
Great video as usual. Quick question, would you calibrate differently (i.e., temperature) if you know you'll be printing your images? I have read that using 5000K-5500K if printing is better that 6500K. I have calibration 1 at 5000K/70 candelas and calibration 2 at 6500K 90 candelas. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance.
If you print and use a pro viewing lighting or light that is calibrated to 5000 or 5500K then I would recommend that you start out with the soft proof preset in PMU. The luminance there is set to 160 nit but that number is a good starting point and it is one that makes sense considering fact that our eyes see less color and brightness at lower - warmer color temp. So start with the preset and adjust the luminance from there. You can always use D65 for print as well, just calibrate it as a lower nits. Personally I am fine with D65 but you can always experiment.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks! Cheers
For Rec. 709, why do you set the Luminance at 80 instead of 100 for the SW270c monitor?
That is based on my preference. You can set yours up to 100
I use a Mac with HDMI, why isn't HDMI supported? After 3 tests with the new version, I always had failed results in all RGB colors and part of the grey - delta E was up to 17. The old version passed without error with delta E 1.47. 🤔
This causes a lot of arguments but people will say that you can’t use HDMI when it comes to professional monitors as it can’t carry enough of the bandwith ‘signal’, so to speak. I can only guess that’s why you are getting error messages, but I’m sure Art will help when he reads your comment. Some people swear that you can’t use HDMI, where as others say that you can, it may not help, but make sure that your HDMI cable is the latest 2.1 standard. I run a SW240 on a silicon Mac Mini and I connect using a USB-C to Display Port cable I purchased on Amazon along with a USB cable also connected. In theory, I only need the USB cable when calibrating, but I leave it connected all the time.
@@adam461smith Thank you!
So the thing is this, that comment need to come with a big caveat. Can you use HDMI, yes, however, with Pro Hardware Calibrated display, it is one of those situation where you would have to run a calibration, and if it passes you are good, if it does not, like in you situation, it generally stems from 2 possible issues, one your HDMI is truncating the signal output instead of outputting 0-255 it is outputting 16-235, this would cause the failure, not much by way of fixing this on Mac. The other is on Mac depending on the resolution scaling, some of them are outputting YUV signal instead of full RGB signal, you can test this by changing the resolution on your Mac. I would give that a go first, and if that does not solve the issue, I would go with a USB C to C or USB C to Display Port.
@@ArtIsRight With the USB-C cable, the calibration was completed with a max delta E of 0.69. The Element version with the HDMI cable has no problem, but the Ultimate does. This is a Mac Studio with SW321C and I am a bit surprised, I will still try another HDMI cable.
Good to know, at this point I would recommend sticking with USB C but you can certainly try.
Art, thanks for this excellent video.!!! I have a Problem trying to calibrare my sw270c with the xrite studio and I am not able to do it properly. Colours went wrong and even using adobe rgb from the monitor as it came, Colours seems vivid in the benq but when I move the image to my MacBook Pro M1 Max, colours appeared washed. Do you have and sugestion? Thanks a Lot. Alejandro
Are you using USB C, are you custom hardware calibrating with Palette Master Ultimate? I usually don't see reply, best to dm me.
Thank you for producing very informative videos on this subject. I have looked at various monitors and have settled on the Benq SW270c and will also purchase either a Calibrite Pro or Plus device based on the help you have provided via your videos. Unfortunately, Calibrite have brought out new HL versions of these devices with updated software and my query is will the new calibration devices work with Palette Master Ultimate and the Benq SW270c monitor. I have messaged Benq's Technical Dept via their website and there response was they don't know as the new devices have not been assessed yet. Many thanks
Yes new calibration devices, the HL ones will work with PMU right out of the box!
@@ArtIsRight Many, many thanks for your help.
When changing custom color modes 1-3, the ICC profile in the system settings is automatically changed! This is a big change. 👍
Yes ICC profile sync!
@@ArtIsRight That's a fantastic feature.
@@ArtIsRight what if the profiles are set at different luminance and temperature values? Do those change automatically or need manual i.e. editing for web vs printing or video. Thanks
Hey Art, How do i assign the calibration 1,2,3 buttons on my 271c puck so it works with the calibration 1,2,3 in the palette master. its driving me crazy!
This video should help you How to get the most of BenQ Wireless Hotkey Puck Gen 3!
ua-cam.com/video/NvnHZW-HToA/v-deo.html
Great video as always, thank you! Quick question, I have both SW270C and SW2700 as a second monitor, will PMU recognize my SW2700? I can't see it in the display menu. And if it's not compatible, can I install again PME and keep both softwares? Hope I made my self clear. Thank you Art.
PMU will only work with the current SW for previous gen you would continue to use PME. And yes you can keep both software.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you so much!
Do you still recommend a black point of 0.3nits for photography and can you even change it in PMU? Using Mac version doesn't seem to allow you to change it.
It does you have to go into edit target, for the most part with PMU, I'm ok with using Absolute black. And I have been getting good results, try testing it to see what you preferences is.
Hi Art,
Thank you very much for this video. I just did my first calibration ever with your help. I just have one question. The report said Passed, but one number was far from yours. I used 2 different videos to do it. The video for Palette Master Element to get the settings for photography and this one because I am calibrating with Ultimate. My maximum Delta E was 0.93. Is that ok?
that is a good value, each computer will output different colors so you are ok
@@ArtIsRight Thank you for this prompt answer.
Great video! Are you able to do a hardware calibration on SW series with PMU? Does it allow you to import a display LUT into the display itself?
Depending on the SW model and the LUT load automatically
@@ArtIsRight - I have the SW321C - would I be able to load a LUT to that through PMU?
Yes PMU does it automatically
hi Art, in the choice of color profile, I want to know the difference between Adobe RGB(1998) and BenQ_SW_AdobeRGB. What is the best choice?
BenQ_SW_AdobeRGB is an approximate display profile that is generated from BenQ. It Is a reference profile and should not be used for display. Best to run the calibration with Palette Master Ultimate and disregard both of these.
I have an SW 271C and use a Macbook M1. For PME, you recommended specific settings (like Panel native, relative black, matrix, D65 White Point, luminance values). Are you now recommending the default settings in PMU? Or would you recommend that same as you did with PME? Thank you.
I would still use native in PMU. From my test, Absolute black works well in PMU. I would give that a try!
I second John, you used to provide recommended settings for each PME version, would be amazing to have those for PMU. Best.
Hi I wanted to ask you something I also have SW270C but I don't understand why the current resolution is set to 3840x2160@60 and that instead Optimal resolution 2560x1440@60 but this panel the maximum resolution is not 2k? Currently I have connected it with MacBook Pro m4 mi and everything is so strange
Just set it to the native 2K 2560
@@ArtIsRight How do I set it to native?
I have a question for you. I just purchased the BenQ SW270c. When I open Palette Master Ultimate I display this message, "Monitor not supported or connected."
How can I solve it?
Another question: I have the Color Checker Display probe, is it compatible?
Thank you
You are probably using HDMI or Display port, if so you have the use the USB Type B up link cable as well
I have Sonoma 14.3.1. What are the settings I have to adjust?
please narrow down the scope of the question
Which calibration should I have to download or do I have to download both?
you mean software? If you have a compatible model use Palette Master Ultimate
Just some information about my new Benq monitor SW321C. It worked perfectly for a week until I calibrated it using their new Palette Master Ultimate software.
The calibration went well using a color checker display pro and passed
I printed one photo using EPL on Epson P900 which went well.
When I put another photo on EPL the EPL screen was half green vertically blocking half the photo. I can’t remember what I did next but the whole screen went red with a pop up saying PMU unexpectedly failed ie crashed.
The monitor was dead even after factory re-set which was suggested by Benq.
Benq are now sending a replacement monitor and have told me not to use PMU but to use PME while their engineers look at the problem.
Im using a Mac mini computer not the M1 version. I am now using my 10 year old 24 inch Eizo with no problems. It just seems tiny.
Plese see attached photo of red screen.
Regards Mike
Hi Mike, thank you for the information on this. It is strange that this happens, I have calibrated numerous SW displays including SW321C using all variants of Apple Silicon and Mac and did over 50 calibration - so far so good. This could simply be a manufacturing or component defect and not necessary related to PMU. Personally I would say if you feel adventurous I would give PMU another try. However, if you don't want to do that I understand. What I can tell you is that PMU is much more thoroughly tested than software released from BenQ in the past. I'll share this case with my contact as well.
Reading this further, I'm not sure how this may be or not be related to EPL. This is interesting. One thing that you can try to do as well if you want to give PMU another try is to calibrate with PMU and then once you are done. Go to the menu bar and Quit PMU that is running in the background. Before you do anything else with the display and computer.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for your reply and information. I think I'll wait until Benq tells me what they find when they investigate my monitor.
Art what is the best way to uninstall the old Palette Master Element software prior to upgrading ?
Just use App cleaner for Mac :)
Hello, hope you doing great. First of all, thanks for ll the great videos in your channel. I'm new here, i mean on calibrate displays. I have just got the Benq SW272Q and the MacBook Pro M3 Max Sonoma 14.4.1 and I have several questions.
1. How you connect the display to the laptop? HDMI or usb-c
2. When i try to run the Palette master Ultimate app is doesn't detect my monitor.
3. I have the Datacolor SpyderX Elite, its ok for do the calibration?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Best regards
1. USC - C is always preferred. No truncated signal.
2. Could be that an HDMI is used and if so you'll need to use the USB up-link cable as well.
3. Spyder X will work Palette Master Ultimate to calibrate SW272Q
It can calibrate your laptop display but you won't be able to get the full gamut from it. If you are looking for a new / upgrade to your device, my recommendation is Calibrite Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL. For a whole bunch of engineering and color reasons.
@@ArtIsRight thank you so much for you quick response, really appreciate it. Actually I just want to calibrate de monitor. My laptop is very new and seems to have very accurate the Colors so far. I will try again with the USB-c instead the HDMI 🙏🏻🥰
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@@ArtIsRight Hi. Could you expand on the engineering and color reasons to get the Calibrite as opposed to the Spyder X?
Is the ICCsync function with the hot puck calibration 1,2,3 is supposed to work on Mac ? On my side I went for a fresh calibration with PMU but I still need to manually select the correct color profile in Mac OS setting for each calibration I created when I switch calibration mode.
It does work on Mac. Did you set the 1,2 and 3 key on the puck to calibration 1, 2, and 3. If so and PMU runs in the background it will work.
I have been using your settings since I got a Benq monitor. Is there a similar software for the PD series? I have a SW2700 and a PD2700u regards,Bart
Calibrite Profilier for PD ua-cam.com/video/C0mti4BguiY/v-deo.html
thanks for this video! when the profile is selected on the monitor (hardware profile), does it also need to be selected in the os system settings -> display too? or should it be set to default benq? cheers! tom
Yes but ICC Sync in Palette Master Ultimate helps with this ua-cam.com/video/Wf1naMT5Oew/v-deo.html you still need to quit the app and relaunch it though.
@@ArtIsRight thank you a lot! i've seen this in the display settings, but i wasn't sure if this is correct to have kinda two profiles applied at the same time - one on the monitor and one in the software. btw- i found you while searching for a tutorial covering this topic - a lot of nice content on your channel!! :-)
You are supposed to have both and thank you!
Hi. I get FAILED calibration calibrating my SW240 monitor with x-rite i1Display Pro. The average Delta E persistent;y showing Average 5.48 and Maximum 16.12 or thereabout after each recalibration. What could be the problem? Anyways, I have emailed the calibraiton report to you for your kind perusal. Much appreciate your help on the matter. Notwithstaning, I have updated my copy of Palette Master Element and the calibration is good.
dm or email me, if you haven't already
I have similar result. SW240 + i1 Display Pro. Monitor connected via Display Port on Thunderbolt dock. Everything goes fine but fails validation miserably. Wondering if anything was figured out here?!? I also tried running PME, and it validated OK. But when trying to soft-proof a document I can tell some colors are far too vibrant for selected output intent, so not trusting the PME calibration.
Hello there.
I have a question; I have two BenQ SW2 displays, one a couple of years old and the other just two days old. When resenting the color on both, the older monitions is warmer than the new one. Is this due to age/use? Both reset to Adobe RGB and I use the same profile on my Mac colour profile.
Thanks.
George
All of the above, LCD and backlight variation between different manufacture runs as well
Thank you for your response.@@ArtIsRight Didn't realise the monitors description was missing two numbers. They are both BenQ SW240. I guess they can they be corrected to the same calibration using a calibrator?
Thank you.
thanks for this great tutorial!!! when i calibrate the display in panel native gammut, which gamma setting do you recommend (i tried Standard Gamma and extended Gamma measurement) and how can i edit the black point? for now only absolute black is the only option (not 0,2 nit what you recommend in other tutorials)... thx!!!
Standard 2.2 is fine, you can use enhance gamma correct too. For black point, click on edit target, at the very bottom of the list there's an option for black point, in the drop down list choose custom and this is where you can type in a value. So far PMU has been rather good so I just set mine to absolute black. However, I do encourage you to experiment.
well the average delta e dropped from around 1 in pme to 0,4-0,5 in pmu and delta e max from 2-3 (pme) to around 1 (pmu) in all 3 settings (80cd, 120cd and max brightness, panel native color gammut and absolute black set as black point). which is really good i think!!! i'll try blackpoint of 0.2 next time i calibrate the monitor. thx for the help and your great work!!!
Hiya. I have a question about login. I've had SW240 for several years and have used previous iteration of PME, but because BenQ account was never required, I never made an account. Now that PMU asks to login if I want to keep using it, but for the life of me, I can't find a way to make an account and log in. Login via Google says "Unable to log in. It looks like something is wrong; please try again" without any success. How do I go about this? Thanks in advance.
I have done the login and it works just fine. You can always use it for 30 days without sign in. Also I found that when you get the unable to login, if you dismissed that dialog sometime it would then say that you are logged in.
Hi Art, Great video! After calibrating I can no longer adjust my brightness of my BenQ SW270c, in other screen settings I can. Is there a solution for? Thank you!
That is by design, if you want to adjust brightness to go Adobe RGB or some other color modes...
@@ArtIsRight Thank you very much for your comment! What do you mean by: by design?
If I choose Adobe RGB, I can indeed adjust the brightness, but will I also be in a different color mode than the calibration I just performed with Palette Master Ultimate?
Thank you very much!
Hello :) I watched your video because I want to calebrate my SW270c with the Display Pro HL. Why you choose the Calibrationtarget Rec? and not for example Adobe RGB? im confused to be honest @ArtIsRight
Because there are variations in settings that one can dial in. The settings are always the same for each discipline. Choose Adobe RGB and calibrate it with photo settings.
thanks for your fast answer...would you choose 120, 100 or 80 cd/m2 (im using it for Photography)? And is it good to make a Colorcalibration and also an advanced color adjustment. @@ArtIsRight
80-120 nits is a variable that you have to choose based on your environment and workflow. 100 may be a good start for most. I would not do advanced color adjustment if you don't have to
Hi Art...I ave a BenQ SW270C and a Colormunki Photo calibrator. I know you said in your video to chose iDisplayStudio from the drop down list. When I do that, nothing happens. I tested the unit with ccStudio and it is working correctly. I called BenQ tech support and they said it's not compatible??? Any suggestions??? Thanks.
I got it to work...finally. I redownloaded ccStudio and installed the XRD driver again. That did the trick. And yes...the Colormunki Photo does indeed work with PMU, despite BenQ telling me it wasn't compatible. Art is Right!
Yes it does work. I tested this. What country of BenQ support did you contact so that I can notify them.?
Hi there, thanks for the video. My display (SW272U) doesn't get detected via HDMI with my Mac mini M2 on the program. Do I have to use USB-C and not HDMI? That would make no sense and would be very annoying since I only have 1 free USB-C at the back that I need for my external monitor and I am working on a fix computer (not a laptop). Could you let me know? Thanks!
BenQ SW does not have auto detect source so you have to choose. HDMI will work but you have to choose it
@@ArtIsRight Thanks! Ya no I know the source has to be selected and the monitor works via HDMI, but what I mean is that the calibration tool (palette master ultimate) does not see the monitor for calibration. I saw another one of your videos where you explain that HDMI is mainly for TVs and so and doesn't have the same amount of data than USB-C hence the issue. When I use USB-C it works just fine so will have to do that. Thanks and take care
Hi, I bought a BenQ SW2700PT about 3-4 years ago and strangely I don't find the color to be bang on when I compare it with my Imac 27'' or my Macbook pro 16 M1. Is there a way for me to calibrate my BenQ without a calibration tool like you use? Thanks in advance!
You are look at this the incorrect way, SW2700PT should be the primary and on the Mac and it should fall where they may. Not the other way around, Part of this is the color gamut difference and matte vs glossy display. If you have a late model you can try to calibrate in P3 gamut
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for your prompt response and for clarying all ot this, as when I was looking at a picture on my BenQ, the color always looked less aapealing than on my Asus monitor, my Imac or my Macbook pro. it makes it difficult though to correct a color on the BenQ whitout making it Pop out to much when viewing it on some other monitor screens!
My advice is to correct it so that it looks good on the BenQ, once you have it good there, it will look good on the other displays as well. You are finding out right now that it looks good on other "glossy" displays but not on the matted BenQ and this should really serves as a red flag for those that are viewing your work on none glossy display. This is one of the reason why you want to view your work matted, get it looking great on matted and it will look great on all other displays
My advice is to correct it so that it looks good on the BenQ, once you have it good there, it will look good on the other displays as well. You are finding out right now that it looks good on other "glossy" displays but not on the matted BenQ and this should really serves as a red flag for those that are viewing your work on none glossy display. This is one of the reason why you want to view your work matted, get it looking great on matted and it will look great on all other displays
I have a SW321c - I thought you could assign the three calibration slots chosen at the beginning of the PMU software to the "puck" buttons 1, 2 or 3. But for the life of me, I can't see how to do that. Is it super easy and I am just missing it? If you can't use the puck buttons for that purpose, how do you switch between the slots?
You can do it, however, it Is not in PMU or PME, This is the way ua-cam.com/video/oGkIvdi2sK0/v-deo.html
Thank you so much! I appreciate your quick reply!@@ArtIsRight
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How can I profile My SW321C with my Mac Pro trashcan (it lacks of USB-C and Display Port) with the new Palette Master Ultimate?
Use the mini display port to display port cable that comes with the display. And the USB Type B to USB Type A uplink cable.
Great video, as always. At least from my experience, PMU is beta status software with many issues (macOS 13.3, Studio Ultra M1, two SW321C). I've read through the manual front-to-back. Just a few issues. First - if for some reason PMU freezes or gets stuck, the monitor remains in dimmed mode of the monitor selection even after PMU is exited or killed. The only way is to disconnect the monitor from power (pull the cable, on/off button not responsive). Second - after successful manual selection of the monitors, the calibration run for the first monitor could be completed successfully, but never for the second monitor. For every calibration run, only a single monitor can be connected. Third - depending on the monitor, 1 to 3 out of 4 calibration runs become stuck at calibration step 18 of 18 (killed after >1h). Fourth - in practice, the calibration of two monitors for 3 color spaces each (RGB, sRGB, DCI P3) takes a full work day. If you're lucky ! BenQ offers great hardware, but the calibration software has always posed too many issues. Which makes for an ambivalent experience, at least for me.
1. That happens when you program does not exit but rather killed / forced quit. It takes control of every aspect of the display, hence the power disconnect.
2. I have tested this successfully but I'll look at this again. There are some Mac side display recognition that happens.
3. Yes it should not take that long, hence the kill, which I understand leads to number 1.
4. It takes times but not the whole day, I have ran too many calibration on these to count. But I do see your point number 3.
The main question here, is this a new Mac and setup as brand new or system migrated and /or restore from a Time Machine back up?
I do hear you and in my testing and communication with BenQ, many of these issues that you speak of is largely related to Mac OS and the constant architecture changes. either way I'll share this with BenQ
Thanks a lot for your response, Art. The Studio Ultra was set up from scratch with macOS 12 in September 2022 and has received all updates to the current macOS 13.4.1 (c). No system migration or restoration from Time Machine back up. In order to make sure that none of the issues are related to hubs or other USB-C/Thunderbolt 3 devices, I disconnected them all. For the final tests, just the two or a single SW321C monitor/s were connected directly to the Apple Studio. For the time being, I went back to PME v1.3.19 which works well for my entire setup (with all devices incl. hubs connected). However, I very much look forward to a more stable version of PMU with its additional functionality - especially the ICC setting for both the monitor and macOS.
Thank you so much for all your highly informative, excellent videos on youtube - on BenQ products, computers (Apple especially), software (e.g. Topaz), etc. !
You're welcome. And have you try to calibrate them on at a time yet? Just calibrate one display and disconnect the other one all together?
Also if you can please submit the Log ID in PMU or you can email me the ID code or dm me as well
Better yet if you don't mind, DM me on fb page or insta
just one question... pmu starts on every Startup of my system (i run macos monterey) but it's not selected as a startup program. is that a bug or a Feature?
Feature for ICC profile Sync
On the menu drop down for color space I did not see panel native. Is it still an option ?
Yes, you have to click on Edit Target and then choose Panel Native Under Gamut
The Spyder5 from Datacolor is not being recognized as a calibrator (M1 Max + Ventura 13.4)
Not supported, from data color only Spyder x is supported
@@ArtIsRightSo no matter the Mac OS only Spyder X is supported using the BenQ Softwore? I have a Spyder5 myself on Mac OS 12.7.2...
Can I use calibrite display pro HL with this software?
yes
Hi Art - GREAT informative, step-by-step video (y) I have followed your guidelines. Using the SW271C with mac studio. Calibrated Photography (defaults) - Adobe RGB, How can I calibrate in sRGB Mode :-)
you can click on edit target and choose sRGB from the gamut list
Why new software master palette ultimate is not compatible with monitor SW271
Current SW models in the line up and future one only. For previous gen you would continue to use PME.
I just bought a new Calibrate Display Plus HL it’s not on the calibrated pulldown menu and pallet master ultimate version 1.0.0.9. What’s the equivalent that I should use in a pulldown menu for calibrator?
You can choose either i1Display Plus or ColorChecker Display Plus
@@ArtIsRight thank you Art. I wish Benq would add an extra read me. 😉
Great suggestion
why BenQ does not want us to be able to calibrate to native display gamma (tone curve rather, as native is not near any gamma-curve shape ... ) ?
I don't think you want that, it is gamma and not gamut. More control is needed on this.
@@ArtIsRight we have native white point though ... in any case given NOT the state of the art execution in deep shadows (proverbial you get what you pay for) one might want to forego attempts at tone correction and deal w/ the panel native response AS IS
Hi Art - HELP!!
Running Mac Studio (Ventura 13.5.2) with BenQ 271C, Palette Master Ultimate with Datacolor Spyder X, I currently calibrate my monitor monthly. After the latest calibration when my Mac goes to sleep (when I am away fromthe machine) , on 'waking' my screen is Red! and all the toobar icons are grey! The only work-a-round I have found is to reboot my machine. I cannot use the 'apple' icon when the screen is 'Red' as the upper toolbar is flickering! The screen also flickers? This has only started since the last calibration. Contact with Apple - They suggest it is software related ?? Is this an issue with Palette Master? Any thoughts on the way forward with this? Any advice would be appreciated
Here are the steps to resolve the issue.
1. Unplug the USB-C cable
2. Copy /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver.displays.plist to a different folder for backup, this can be your desktop
*Note This is main library folder on your Mac, not the one hidden inside your user folder. This is a system auto generated file, so once you delete it, macOS will generate another one automatically.
3. Delete com.apple.windowserver.displays.plist in Preferences
4. Restart the mac
5. Reconnect the USB-C cable to the monitor
@@ArtIsRight - Hi Art, Thank you for the work-a-round, only issue is that the SW271C is my monitor (Using a Mac Studio) and you suggest disconnecting the USB-C cable? How should I connect the Mac Studio to the monitor if I have to disconnect the usb-c cable (Sorry!)
Disconnect and follow the steps and reconnect it back again.
All sorted THANK YOU for the support!
M1 Mac Studio running Sonoma 14- Profile created by PMU (when selected in Displays) exhibits aberrations in the blacks, noticeably different when looking at identical files in LRC (dev mode) and PS. When selecting packaged SWAdobeRGB profile in displays, black issue is remedied but color accuracy is way off . Why is the generated profile causing these problems?
Doesn't happen using M2 macbook
This is a bug in MacOS and it has to do with graphic out. It effect all "M" series Mac. The work around for this right now is to set the gamma to sRGB. Not this is only the gamma curve and not the color gamut.
Set the gamma to srgb in which interface? The edit target window?
Certainly not the
@@ArtIsRight Set the gamma to srgb in which interface? The edit target window? (Operating any wide gamut display in srgb defeats the purpose of spending the money on the display.)
In PMU, click on edit target in PMU and under gamma, instead of 2.2 choose sRGB
I’m stuck in the beginning. There are no monitors names in the drop down box and no choice for calibrator name. Therefore I can’t do anything.
That means the software is not seeing the monitor. If you are not using USB C to USB C you will need to use an additional USB Uplink cable.
I won’t see reply so if further help is needed, please start a new comment or dm me
@@ArtIsRight thanks, I will try that. However, the BenQ chatline help told me my X-rite Display Pro is no longer compatible and that I should reach out to them. I guess that’s why everything stays under DEMO mode in PMU and i1 Profiler. I guess I have to go spend more money and buy the Calibrate brand now since X-Rite is useless now.
My new BenQ SW272U monitor now crashes my Macbook Pro M2 every time it's connected. Is this a common problem? Sadly, I'll be returning the monitor and trying something else.
Not common and this is not supposed to happen. Without knowing specifics or knowing more about your setup. There's no much that I can do to help. If you like to try and solve this issue dm me on insta or fb page.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you! I'm currently working with Apple and BenQ - perhaps a faulty cable (though I don't think so)? If they cannot help, I'll dm you.
ok
Is this software accurate on Sonoma? I tried using it (instead of the default calibrite software) and the color cast is very green and doesn't seem at all accurate. I have two SW321C's and the calibration seems way off between the two. I also can't seem to calibrate at all with HDMI because it won't recognize the HDMI connected display, but my MacBook Pro doesn't have enough Thunderbolt display ports so I have to use USB-C on one monitor and HDMI on the other, but I never had any variation between screens with the Calibrite software. It seems od that I'd have to calibrate with a USB-C cable and then use the HDMI after?
"It seems od that I'd have to calibrate with a USB-C cable and then use the HDMI after?" this is not advised. different signal output all together, you'll never get accurate color this way. Lots of issues on your end there. This should be approved one at a time. About your display not matching you can use PME Display Clone feature ua-cam.com/video/25USQUQk_RA/v-deo.html As far as accurate, they are. Green color is from the casting on the LCD panel itself, most likely. Calibrite software only does software calibration, but if you are happy using that just use that. I don't usually recommend using that because it is like buying a Ferrari to drive 10 mph in first gear all the time.
@@ArtIsRight thanks, hmmm, I just can't seem to get the BenQ software to get accurate color, and it doesn't recognize the HDMI connected monitor. So I can't even calibrate the second monitor at all. At least PMUltimate runs better than PMElements did. Progress. Thanks for trying to help!
You're welcome.
"I just can't seem to get the BenQ software to get accurate color"
Because of the color cast? And in relation to the 2 displays? Or what other displays or references are you using to determined relative familiarity of accuracy?
"and it doesn't recognize the HDMI connected monitor"
It would seems the HDMI works but you can't use PMU to calibrate, are you using a USB Uplink cable on the monitor that you are using HDMI?
Yeah a lot of that variation is coming from HDMI vs USBC which runs on full RGB range 444 with display port overlay signal. HDMI may times have compress output range aka limited RGB to 16-235 and chroma subsampling down to 422 or 420. I would encourage you to find a way to use USB C on both. Perhaps a thunderbolt dock.
"So I can't even calibrate the second monitor at all"
That is the reason for the variation.
To continue this diagnostic, I would advise that you dm me.
I already make some color tests and black point -Absolute Zero crushes blacks too much. I'm using Davinci resolve software and black point is not correct at all. Can you give resolve users some suggestions how to calibrate our SW monitors at rec 709 color space? Thank you!
why 'd you try to calibrate your monitor close to "Absolute Zero" when manufacturers own software ( BenQ PMU / PME ) does not dare to do verification ( after calibration and profiling ) close to that ?
Right now I would try 0.3 and let me run some test and get back to you. It may be that Photo is fine with absolute black but video may be 0.3, we'll see, thanks for letting me know.
So if I calibrate Photography Adobe Rgb, but if i later use the hot puck to select “Srgb”, do I need to manually to select the Benq profile for srgb ??
No
@@ArtIsRight Hi Art, thanks for your reply. I need to ask one question. After profiling and saving the icc profile using PMU on my Benq Sw272Q, do I need to go to MAC display and select the profile for the SW272Q? If I don't, how does the monitor know how to use the ICC profile?
You can verify but don't necessarily need to select it, if it already is, which it should
How about PD2705Q users? What is best way to calibrate those?
The software that comes with your calibration device Calibrite use Calibrite Profilier or ColorChecker Profilier, Spyder use Spyder software, etc.
Clearly explained, thanks. BTW, I had a funny thing. During calibration I received a phone call on my Mac. The PME software hung then. I even had to restart my Mac.
That is very interesting. Do you have your Mac setup so that it can received phone calls from your phone?
@@ArtIsRight I have. Also with my iPad and Watch.
Had similar expierince yesterday. In OSX Sonoma i got some pop-up on the screen when getting a call (Asking if the phoe should be used for video or something". PMU did not like that.
Why This new version Palette Master ultimate doesn’t have option of Color panel like S, M and L for Large gives more color and Color panel instead only AdobeRGB AND so on??
You mean the number of patches - because this is a new baseline algorithm that BenQ has developed, that is not longer needed.
@@ArtIsRight Really appreciate your response and I mean number of patches and colour panel instead of AdobeRGB that gives more colour?
"number of patches and colour panel instead of AdobeRGB that gives more colour?"
you will have to elaborate on this further, I can infer but I'm not understanding this question in its entirety.
Either way, as state the number of patches, which has nothing to do with the color gamut is no longer selectable, that is because this calibration is done on a new adaptive model with a baseline, something that was not done before. Hence the change.
You are talking about Adobe RGB, are you referring to using Panel Native, if so this option is still there ua-cam.com/users/shortsJzd-AZx7nGo
@@ArtIsRight I couldn’t have more to say how great you are and I was never used to Monitor with hardware Calibration but now I bought Benq SW270c 2k instead of 4K due to budget Factor. I really appreciated your kindness and gorgeous help. I need more help is I calibrate Monitor white is D65, Luminance is 120, black gamma is Absolutely Zero for Daily use like Website, social media, client works and I believe I did right things for general use and I separately calibrated for print in different custom 1. Sometimes my raw photos look so less contrast, saturate and I believe what monitor see that’s real. Am I right? Correct me if I’m mistake.
HDR features comes with Monitors doesn’t show active and is it because I used USB-C and any advice?
- what is your knowledge of best Luminance Number Black gamma or gamut for general use?
- what Colour and exposure or Luminance I see photos in Calibrated Monitor and I believe I see same in IPhone, iPad, website and other devices after export in Color Space sRGB? Please correct me if I wrong….
1. Sometimes my raw photos look so less contrast, saturate and I believe what monitor see that’s real. Yes you just need to edit more...
HDR features comes with Monitors doesn’t show active and is it because I used USB-C and any advice? This is mostly controlled by the OS and not the display.
- what is your knowledge of best Luminance Number Black gamma or gamut for general use?
Luminance 80-120, black absolute is fine or 0.3, gamma 2.2 or video 2.4, gamut native.
- what Colour and exposure or Luminance I see photos in Calibrated Monitor and I believe I see same in IPhone, iPad, website and other devices after
not going go look quite the same too many variables, this kind of thinking can lead you down a deep rabbit hole, don't go there. ua-cam.com/video/QmyDEHNB1pQ/v-deo.html
Hi
Great videos as always. I have one problem. I got the SW270C but when I launch PMU and press the "select monitor" dropdown I get the message "no supported monitor connected". Please help :)
I recently updated to OSX Sonoma
what cable(s) are you suing with the display? What computer? Laptop, desktop, are you in extended display mode?
Also I tested PMU with Sonoma it works fine on my test bench.
@@ArtIsRight Im using USB-C on a Mac Studio M2 Max and no extended display mode. I don't get it
Any idea? :)
dm me
Hi, just got an sw271c and downloaded the latest palette master for mac os. No supported monitor shows up and SpyderX shows as not connected. What an I doing wrong ?
Mac Book Pro M1 Max , Ventura 13.4
OK I got it working the USB type B to A connector must be connected from Monitor (B) to computer (A). If its still not working try different dongles.
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Hi Art, is the new Ultimate software still Spyder5Pro compatible? thanks.
For DataColor only Spyder X at this point.
Hi Art,
Just to clarify,
the datacolor spyder5Pro model is compatible . I just want to confirm as there are newer models now. Thanks.
@@jamesobrien9045 With PMU the only device from DataColor, the company who makes Spyder, is the Spyder X which is the device that came after Spyder 5. There's a new device at this point the Spyder X2 but that device is really new and not compatible as of now. I generally recommend Calibrite devices over Spyder for various engineering reason and with the new Spyder X2, they are priced at above Calibrite devices.
@@ArtIsRight thanks Art. In that case I’ll stick with PME at present as I use a spyder5pro. Will upgrade if/when I have issues.
That works too!
Hi there, unfortunately after installing pallet master ultimate and calibrating BenQ SW271C which I use in addition to a HP Z display, system setting on mac os ventura crushes and the display turnes red. Is anyone else getting this issue? Any advise on how to fix this is appreciated.
System setting crash could relate to PMU or not, most of the time I found that stems from an un resolved bug in Mac OS that is not necessary related to PMU. Display turns red is an issue where the LUT cannot be written to completely. I need more info to solve issue. Mac system, desktop, laptop, SoC (Chip) gen, Os Version, cable used to link Mac and display, calibrator device used. This would be a good start of issue isolation.
I had the same problem and am awaiting a replacement monitor. I was told that this is a very unusual problem, now I'm not so sure its unusual and will probably not use it again.
Display turning red, can be fixed by changing to one of the factory color mode, it is doing that because the communication between the display and computer got cut off. It is not necessary an unusual problem, it does happen occasionally with PME as well. For both of these cases, if you could reach out to me, dm or email, I like to get more info and possibly a log for BenQ
Is there still an option for the panel native setting in palette master ultimate?
Yes click on edit target and choose Panel native from the gamut option. I'll make a video about this
@@ArtIsRight which will be better for photo editing Adobe RGB or Panel Native?
They are the same really....
Older video but info still applies ua-cam.com/video/a_poTYITdNQ/v-deo.html
right now it can't be opened because of security issues, apple cannot check it for malicious software. the software needs to be updated
It does not need to be updated, Right click on the app and click on open, A dialog will pop up and then click on open again from there the app will run.
@@ArtIsRight I did that - software crashed part way through the calibration, completely corrupted my M1 mac on Monterey - would not connect to another monitor without crashing apps, turning display to monochrome. Had to completely rebuild my Mac from a clean install. Not happy!
Having issue with OSX Sonoma not updating icc profile after changing it on the BenQSW270C. Funny thing is it works sometimes but then just stops. Anyone seen this issue ?
Heard off and on about this issue, it is not just Sonoma, can't track down the exact bug yet
Tried both v2 and v4 in Palette Ultimate software. The issue is for both BenQ pre-config icc profiels as well as for the calibrations done by myself. Using USBC to USBC on BenQ SW270C. Will try downloading BenQ Display pilot and see if there is any difference. @@ArtIsRight
@@ArtIsRight Hi, i have tried some thing if it might be of interest. I tried to change permission on the folder ColorSynd in Libraries. Did work first but after restart of computer not working any more.
Did a new calibration and closed the PMU, checked in Apple Colorsync-tool and noticed all calibrations made by PMU get an error "MD5 checksum is incorrect". I repair it (Not sure if this is critical or not).
But I can for sure say one thing. If it works and I reboot my computer it stops working. PMU is running in the background, that's confirmed. But if I close that process and restart PMU and then select "Exit" in the software so it goes back to working in the background it works again.
I'll pass this on to BQ
@@ArtIsRight Seems to be a combination if screen is set to wake up via USB and if PMU is set to open or run in background at start. Emailed BenQ all my tests. But you're the BenQ ObiOne so hope you find the bug =) Thx for great content !
Thanks
Welcome
Sadly Colormunki Photo is not supported
It do got error when init
Choose i1Studio and you'll be fine, do that for now. Give it a go
@@ArtIsRight thx the new software make the display a bit darker/ dim both set to 120 but the result seems different ... And color colder... Now doing 2nd cal with notebook lip close see it this help
@@mr.kentam With that specific color spectrophotometer device I also notice that the color is cooler. I'll find out more about this. Please follow up with me a few days by starting a new comment, I'll share what I found out
Can you also tell me which SW model you have?
Art, VisionPro has been announced, the displays are doomed 😉
not quite, again blanket approach will not work. And many creative would not be able to afford that, let alone wearing that all day
@@ArtIsRight Affordability is not an issue - it's costs as much as an XDR display while you get so much more. The real issue is with the comfort and eye-strain. Unless they solve vergence-accommodation conflict, there might be an issue. However, seeing and image blown up to 100ft seems like a dream
I know, I have those concern as well
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