Calibrite Display Plus HL Review, The Best Colorimeter Apple XDR Displays & Creative Pros!
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- Опубліковано 25 чер 2023
- Calibrite Display Plus HL, The Best & Newest Colorimeter for Pro Display Calibration! Calibrite launched a new colorimeter line up which comprise of the Display Plus HL, Display Pro HL, and Display SL. This video will go over the different features between each of these devices to help you choose the best one for your creative workflow now and into the future. In addition, I'll do a mini unboxing, go over what comes with the device and lastly, the most important part, I'll profile Apple Liquid Retina XDR display inside my 14" MacBook Pro, these are Apple latest display backlight tech, mini LED that until now, can't be profile with consumer software and devices. This is all changing today!
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Thanks! I really appreciate all the valuable information you provide in your videos on calibration.
My pleasure!
Thanks again for your continuing assistance.
Always!
Thank you for the very good review.
My pleasure!
Awesome & Thanks Sir 🙏🕊
Most welcome
Hi Art. Love this video. I have just subscribed to your channel and I'm excited about the color management content. Do you have a video that describes the use of the Calibrite Display Plus HL to profile the Apple PRO XDR display?
Thank you, You can use this playlist, I showed this on Laptop XDR displays but the process is really the same ua-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q5jBT6sp5aUrTfctBJ4U43J.html
Thanks!
You bet!
Thanks for the review. Do you know if it`s low light sensitivity has improved vs the previous plus, or at least is the same?
Probably better but then I have to use a $10K + instrument to test out this and the variation is going to be small at best. So I would say yes but not as much.
Hi mate, thanks for the video. Could I please know if you have any videos for projectors?
That is up coming.... I have a projector in the studio now
Thanks for the video, Art! I love the new look of the Calibrite devices! Assuming from the video, I will not gain anything when upgrading from i1 Display Pro to calibrate SDR displays, is that correct? Nor is it faster or more accurate?
Accuracy was already good to start with it. The reason to upgrade would be if you want to profile Apple miniLED XDR displays.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks, that's what I expected. Then, I am buffled why would anyone want to recalibrate a marvel like Apple XDR display, with delta 0.6 straight out of a factory. The drift over the years must be negliable given the history of iMac screens. I am interested in your take on it and how does a new Apple display benefits from using Calibrite?
Do you know if the Plus HL will work with Calman software for profiling LG C2 displays? Thanks for the great video!
It should technically the Plus HL uses the same code as the other versions.
Thank you very much for the demo. How do you sync the Macbook Pro display with the BenQ display? and How do you sync the two displays with the Canon Pro printer?
What do you mean by "Sync?" To get it working you just use a display cable. If you are talking getting the color right, they all just run as independent displays. And when it comes to printing you just print with icc profiles. These are some my print series ua-cam.com/video/MpB75oJzcNM/v-deo.html & ua-cam.com/video/4fEzUMCwZyo/v-deo.html
Thanks
Welcome
Hi Art. I am happy to see your this detailed video. I want to buy a monitor calibrator and i want to use it on new monitors in the future. Many people say Display Plus HL is less sensitive to measuring grays and blacks than the regular Calibrite Display Plus. I have Asus Proart PA329CV monitor. I'm realy confused. Which one do you think makes more sense?
It is fine, over hype and talk about product capability or lack there of. It is really fine. Don't worry about it
it is a bit pity that they don't go with the detachable usb-c cable design, as X-Rite/Calibrite seems not refresh their line so often, and I always afraid of destroy the cable I have with my colormunki display. But so nice to see a solution to calibrate the pro XDR monitor.
Detachable cable for these devices, more failure point, i.e. ColorChecker Studio
@@ArtIsRight I own a Macbook pro M1 14 and a BenQ SW272U monitor. how often should I calibrate both? same frequency? many thanks
Sir, do you know if this colorimeter works with latest CalMAN software?
I keep emailing Portrait Displays but they never respond.
I want to buy it to calibrate my QN90B Samsung TV.
Thank you for all the great work you’ve been doing! Cheers from Brazil!
It should. at the fundamental you can still choose i1Display Pro from the list, they use the same SDK so it should work.
Thank you for this video. I'm a bit old school (Windows user) and have had issues with adjusting my photos and what prints being so far off. I'm thinking the Display SL is what I need for my level of proficiency. Would appreciate your insights on who is a "Display SL" user. Thanks!
SL are really what I would consider a consumer device with slightly more control than Calibrite 123. If you print, I don't recommend it. I would choose the Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks!
Thanks for such fantastic clear explanations! So am I right in thinking that the Pro HL is good to calibrate the Apple Studio Display AND my 16 inch MacBook Pro 2021? So I don’t need the Plus HL?
yes
@@ArtIsRight thanks for clarifying 🙏🏻
thanks for this great review!!! i have one question: atm i work 90% of the time on the benq sw321c and the rest of the time on the liquid retina xdr display of my mbp 16 m1. until now i calibrated the benq using pmu and fine tune calibrated the whitepoint of the mbp display with the i1 display plus calibration device. i now sold the i1 dp and want to get one of the new calibrate hl devices. do you think the plus hl is worth the extra ~50€? the capability should be more than good enough? i use both displays to edit photos using c1 and ps. thank you for your recommendation!!!!
There are 2 reasons why you might want to consider the Display Plus HL.
1. If you want the ability to do full HDR calibration in the future when the feature is available.
2. If you plan on calibrating displays that are brighter than 3000 nits in the future.
If you are a photographer, I would say the Display Plus HL is really null for the most part. And I think that Display Pro HL is going to be a long lasting device.
Art, I found the new calibrite profiler only measure K instead of giving us x and y value for white. This makes fine-tuning the white point for Macs harder. Do you have a workaround for that or you have the other software resource to measure the current white point?
I know, they are working on this. The work around at the moment is to use i1Profilier to get the measurement
Hi Art, I was wondering after calibrating an Apple studio display if you want to switch from a photography profile to the default profile for brighter web browsing will this effect the calibration? Or is it as simple as changing back to the profile you calibrated to?
Nope, profile remains the same, even after reference mode switch.
Hello Art and thanks for video! Just wondering is the colorimeter device like new Calibrite Display Plus as good as more advance spectrophotometers like i1Pro 3 ?
Sure i mean about calibrating light emitting device like displays, monitors, laptops. Does spectrophotometers more accurate with creating icc profile or will be same? Thank you!
Different is a better way to look at it. Because they measure color differently, comparison it nil really. it really comes down to use case. What you are going to get in the end is about the same. Our human vision can't tell the variations.
@@ArtIsRight Oh, thank you very much for respond Mr. Art! May I ask one more question. It is believed that because colorimeters use colored filters for calibration, over time the colorimeter's calibration accuracy decreases as these colored filters fade. But the principle of work of spectrophotometer is different and there is like a prism and it does not lose its original properties over time. They say that the colorimeter after 2-3 years may not be as accurate as a new one. What do you think, can this be true?
" It is believed that because colorimeters use colored filters for calibration, over time the colorimeter's calibration accuracy decreases as these colored filters fade." This was more so in the past, current gen does not suffer from this any more. We are talking about devices that were released more than 15 years go.
"But the principle of work of spectrophotometer is different and there is like a prism and it does not lose its original properties over time. "
It measures the color and light differently, that is for sure. As far as losing his original property overtime, it would depend on the white balance tile that you're using. depending on the device, some of them have tiles that are exposed with a cover, some are built into the device itself. These tile do age over time but to a lesser degree.
"They say that the colorimeter after 2-3 years may not be as accurate as a new one. What do you think, can this be true?"
I have not found this to be the case with new regeneration devices. I have a color perimeter that is more than 10 years old now to still perform just as well as it did on day one. The Delta variation does not change much comparing between the new and old device. Also, when you're doing these measurement, you are really measuring a point in time anyway so variation will happen regardless.
Hope this helps.
@@ArtIsRight I'm very grateful!
'To limit the display gamut to srgb, select PFS Phosphor' - Does this mean that we can still use the old i1display plus with the xdr macbook if we only want to use srgb, such as for video editing in Premiere?
I would use reference mode instead, cap it to sRGB and then calibrate it, if you need calibration.
Hi Art. I've been looking into bying a colorimeter for Benq SW270C. Do you know if Palette Master Element/Ultimate supports Calibrite Display Plus HL?
Yes
I will never get this device but i'm watching the video to support your channel. Thank you for all that you do. :)
Much appreciated!
Do you know if the older colorchecker display plus will be able to calibrate HDR in a future firmware/software update? HDR on windows 11 seems tricky to calibrate, there ain't any viable solution thus far.
Based on what I see from Calibrite comparison chart, no
Just a simple question are they compatible yet with palette master ultimate?
Yes I mentioned this in the video, I think, they are compatible already!
Could you please tell, how much better it's with the calibration and whether considering buying the device will benefit an average MacBook user?
Average MBP user, not so much, get it for the new miniLED display tech, otherwise what you have will do just fine!
What about colorchecker studio? Will it be updated soon in new lineup?
probably not
So I can also calibrate my Rec709 2.4 and HDR ST2084 PQ reference modes on my Macbook 16.2 Pro and have it automatically select the right profile depending on the reference mode I choose?? 😅
There's no automatic profile / reference mode selection but at the end of the videos, I showed profile manager that makes it easer to switch profiles on XDR displays.
I got mine today and I went through the comments section to see if it is answered and Thanks for the video. You are the one making videos on these. My question is, I have Neo G9 49inch mini Led monitor and would like to calibrate HDR. Is it possible with this software in windows and how should I calibrate? Are there any settings you recommend in the software?
True HDR calibration is no avialable at the moment. The solution is only avialable with pro software like CalMan
@@ArtIsRight thank you very much. Do you suggest any other software for HDR calibration other than Calman as it is pricey?
So the lower tier models are unable to calibrate BT.1886 or the XDR backlight because they are software locked, and they lack the EDR to do so, not because they are incapable. Those displays are no more than 1600 nits peak, and the previous devices could do them and was costing $120 cheaper.
No mention how low light performance is. Having 10000 nits capability is highly likely to compromise the low light performance. No one needs 10k nits, displays are far off from that.
That is one way of putting it. Every company does this.
Yeah, it's disappointing. I recently bought a display plus, just a month before these came out in order to calibrate my home OLED and XDR macbook display. Hopefully some third party will rig up some software that can calibrate those displays. As it is, trying to use the display plus screws up the contrast on my macbook badly.
Do you have any information when calibrite Profiler supports Camera calibration? With 1.2.1 the feature is still not available.
no
Can you calibrate the display instead of the output to the display? Example is one output going to a mini-LED and two projectors at the same time.
the only way to do this is to have a hardware calibrated display like BenQ SW line
Hi.
Thanks alot for this video. Very very helpful. I've just bought the Display Plus HL - looks like a powerful piece of kt.
However....i'm having a couple of issues...
1: Is it possible to import the .icc file into the main Display setting of the Macbook pro M2, presets? I have tried to do so via the Colour Sync folder but for some odd reason the file won't import via the 'import' (three dot) option in the System Settings, now will it allow me to drag and drop, or copy and paste it into the same folder.
It's pretty tedious having ot open the Calibrite Calibration Software to change the profile on the Macbook.
2: Is it possible to maintain manual brightness control over the colour calibration. The screen tends to be too dark for my needs when calibrated for video @ BT1886.
Any adivce, pointer would be gratefull received.
Thanks again for all your hard work and knowledge Truely appreciated.
1. you can just choose the icc from a folder location on your Mac. no need to use Calibrite Profilier
2. yes and no depending on the screen. I need to know your setup. best dm me with your Mac, setup details, what displays, settings you used, etc.
It is still very confusing how the Calibrite Profiler generated profiles interact with the XDR reference modes, customization and fine tuning. It could be so much simpler. Thanks a lot for your videos. A least they help getting these XDR displays profiled.
Icc works on top of reference mod . Think of reference mode as based adjustment for the display but not calibration. As far as simpler goes, Apple really would prefer that you use only the reference mode and not calibrate. As far as simpler than what was there before, well not so much. But this the questions comes down to this, do you want the extra capability of reference mode or not?
@@ArtIsRight thank you for your explanation and keep up with your great videos.
Thank you!
I own the Calibrite ColorChecker Display Plus ... less than 2 years old... like my MBP16 with M1... do you know an option to use it too for the XDR display... as it is able to do 2000 Nits and i am quite sure that only the calibration file for Mini Led is missing... different software maybe? I would own a Xrite i1Pro2 spectrometer too.. if it helps. Thank you very much!
MiniLED calibration won't be coming to that device. I have to see if the spectro software has been updated yet, last I checked it was not. Post a new comment asking me about this in a week or two to remind me.
i don't think my samsung Odyssy OLED G8 has hardware calibration, and yet i want to calibrate it for games. will these colorimeters help me make more accurate manual adjustments on the monitors OSD?
Yes
I just got the display pro hl calibrate my 2023 MacBook Pro M2. I wanted to calibrate lums at 100 for photography. When I started testing the actual lums was 93 and the adjustment is disabled. Is there a way to get the 93 closer to 100 and if so how do you do that. Please advise thanks
Fine tune calibration - guide on this coming....
I've heard it has an issue with blacks the new HL model ?
over blown, don't worry about it.
I heard these perform worse than old gen for low nits applications? Have you tested this?
Using them on the daily and they are fine. If you need to calibrate higher nits XDR displays these are going to be it.
Hi Art, is the Display Plus HL a re-badged CC Display Plus, or are they significantly different feature set? (I just purchased a CC Display Plus before seeing this video. oops?)
It is not a re-badge, from my understanding there's a slightly different sensor inside and it can also profile miniLED displays.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks Art. It arrived and I'm gonna use it. I don't have a Mini LED display, so all good.
There's some testing on the Light IIlusion forums showing the Calibrite Display Plus HL is less sensitive to measuring grays and blacks than the regular Calibrite Display Plus. CEO Steve Shaw says [low-light capabilities may be compromised] as an inherent limitation with any of the high-brightness versions.
Hi Art. I have the X-Rite i1 Diplay Pro puck and I have upgraded it from the Calibrite software to be able to use that. When trying to profile an M3 Max 16 inch Macbook Pro I don't have the option to select miniLED, just White LED, PFS Phosphorous, etc. Do you know why I don't have the option for miniLED by any chance?
That MiniLED option will only show up on new HL devices
New devices and sensor are tuned differently
What do you have to set on an M1 MacBook Pro before using this new set up? I don’t see the link to which video that gives the correct pre calibration settings to turn on or off. Thanks
This playlist ua-cam.com/play/PLjlr8rlxl_q5jBT6sp5aUrTfctBJ4U43J.html
And these videos
Setting to turn off for various macOS
macOS Ventura 13.X
ua-cam.com/video/qVXjhsraAlw/v-deo.html
macOS Monterey 12.X & Big Sur 11.X
ua-cam.com/video/U6NOaDi2DQ0/v-deo.html
macOS Catalina & earlier OS
ua-cam.com/video/hDHBodulVbw/v-deo.html
@@ArtIsRight Thanks so much. You are very generous and I appreciate your help.
@@andras_ikladi thanks.
Does colorimeters get bad after years? I have a i1 display pro....
rarely, that device should still be fine.
I know this isn't the device but please lend me a hand.. I have an xrite i3 plus package and I am calibrating a 2021 MacBook Pro (XDR) and a Viewsonic "Color Sonic" 27" 4k monitor. I am a bit confused by how I can't just simply see the profile crested in i1profiler in the Macbook's "presets". Watching another one of your videos, it seemed like I needed to pull x and y point values, along with luminance levels, from the i1 software and import them into the "fine tune" calibration, putting in a suggested RGB x and y value for the target (?)... So I did all that to the MacBook. And then I did the regular i1profiler calibration process with the Viewsonic. For that, I was able to directly select the profile created, unlike the MacBook process. So after doing all of this, I still see subtle variations in color from the external monitor, MacBook Pro, and then my iPhone. The iPhone appears greener. I want the ACTUAL color to match print and web (is this totally possible)? Something consistent with the RGB colorspace. Is it possible for all devices to look the same? :/ My work relies heavily on color accuracy and this is driving me nuts. Does this process sound like the right approach to you?
simply put you are trying to match different LCD with different backlight type and light output, it can be done to a point and then it all just fall apart. All of the iPhone Pro / Pro Max are OLED, Mac XDR are miniLED and viewsonic is mostly an IPS, you do the math, they are never going to match, but they can come close that is all that you can do.
@@ArtIsRight But does the second part about importing the x and y point values provided by i1profiler into "fine tune" calibration sound accurate? I've found that the stock sRGB color profile on the Viewsonic matches the "Photography" preset on MacBook Pro, with P3 changed to sRGB. this produces a closer match than my custom profiling. What gives? I hate to have this very expensive i1 color profiling system produce worse results than the stock profiles :/ thank you for your help
Why are you choosing 100 instead of 120 luminance? Won't this affect calibration when editing photos for printing?
It is a range of 80 -120 depending on the preference. The luminance is chosen and the calibrated so it won't effect the final calibration because it has already taken the lower luminance in to account.
In my CC Studio software there is a big red question mark in every menu. It looks like the software is trying to tell me that the calibrator is not connected. What does the question mark mean? Why can't we see that in your video?
what device do you have? I would reach out to your local Calibrite support for help
Hey Art, a quick question to you. I have a BenQ SW321C connected to a Macbook M3 series. Between Display Plus HL & Calibrite ColorChecker Display Plus, which colorimeter do you recomend?
If you are getting one today I would look at the HL because they can calibrate miniLED inside the 14" and 16" MBP as well. ColorChecker Display Plus cannot fully calibrate miniLED
@@ArtIsRight thank you 🙌🏻
Sure thing
I am currently working on a Dell U2723QE - so not a crazy color monitor, but as I just started digging deeper into the color topic I am also not willing to spend 6,5k on a Flanders DM220 (I do editing as a freelance job and have the possibility to also script, produce, etc. all these videos). Now I am wondering what calibration tool would be the best, the main display I want to correct is my Dell but also an Apple Studio Display. I guess when I really start getting better I would consider a Flanders or Apple Pro Display and then I will need another calibration tool. But for now it should work for my Dell and maybe also be "future proof" for a ASUS ProArt PA27DCE. Should I go with the Pro oder Plus or even a completely different one or even with a SpyderX?
Thanks in advance!
Go with the pro or plus. don't go with Spyder, inferior sensor
@@ArtIsRightThanks appreciate it! Could I ask you one more question? I am searching for a Monitor for UA-cam 4k Deliverys to Grade SLOG on. In my list there are the Eizo CG2700X, CG2700S, CG2420 and the ProArt PA27DCE-K (OLED) or PA27UCX-K (MiniLED). Which one would be the best pick (for its money)?
Do you know if these models are compatible with DisplayCAL, or should I buy the ColorChecker Display Plus in this case?
I am unable to comment on displaycal
Of you can not😂,You are paid by Calibrite I am sure and BenQ. Google to find your answer. I do love your videos though.
There's some testing on the Light IIlusion forums showing the Calibrite Display Plus HL is less sensitive to measuring grays and blacks than the regular Calibrite Display Plus. CEO Steve Shaw says [low-light capabilities may be compromised] as an inherent limitation with any of the high-brightness versions. Stick with the Calibrite Display Plus.
For HDR in Windows. Will this create its own ICC Profile (Advanced Color) for windows to use?
no
So the ICC profile created by calibrate would work in conjunction with the advanced color ICC profile in Windows when HDR is active? @@ArtIsRight
I would caution everyone considering this version because there's some testing on the Light IIlusion forums showing the Calibrite Display Plus HL is less sensitive to measuring grays and blacks than the regular Calibrite Display Plus. CEO Steve Shaw says [low-light capabilities may be compromised] as an inherent limitation with any of the high-brightness versions.
Yes but if one needs to calibrate Mini LED, one does not have a choice either. Compromise, sure, every sensor and version will have to compromise somewhere. USS Kobayashi Maru, no win all scenario.
Would this model be appropriate for use with the 42" LG C3 OLED along with the Calman software? I ask the question since OLEDs are not usually very bright@@ArtIsRight thanks
I want to work at Davinci to do Color Grading, my question is, should I buy something like the Blackmagic Design UltraStudio 4K Mini to get a clean output or is calibration enough? By the way, LG OLED C3 TVs support 4:4:4 input.@@ArtIsRight thanks again
I almost forgot, the video signal I am sending from my Mac Studio M2 Max, thanks for the help@@ArtIsRight
I just purchased an Apple XDR Pro Display for HDR grading. I own a data color Spyder X2 Ultra capable of calibrating monitors to 2000 nits. I am not getting ideal results. It appears this Calibrite Plus HL looks like a better tool for what I need. I need P3 HDR but also require Rec 709 for standard broadcast outputs. The way my XDR monitor arrives does not match a Flanders reference monitor recently factory calibrated and I don’t know where I stand with calibrating this beautiful new Pro XDR monitor. If you have a moment for some guidance, I would sure appreciate it.
I would try the HL but results will vary. as far as matching Flanders, that it going to be a hit or missed. That is the down side of Pro Display XDR
Thanks, I’ve ordered the Calibrite HL Plus from B&H. Hoping this will give me what I want and get close to Flanders for Rec 709. Thanks again.
Fantastic video. But I am getting stuck somehow... I have Mac Studio running the latest Sonoma and the latest Calibrite Profiler (1.2.8) and if I select the P3 profile as earlier in the video and say 100 luminance my actual luminance when I come to read it on the Profiler software is way below that, around 80, and as the profile has been set previously I cannot adjust the brightness. There also seems to be nowhere to get the x and y readings from the Profiler software as we did on the older version to the Calibrite software so I cannot do the Fine Tuning as before, so I have to just click next and do the calibration without being anywhere neat the 100 luminance value. Does this mean my calibrations will be wrong? I'd be interested to hear if I may be doing something incorrectly!
This ua-cam.com/video/PLB93k9UYWc/v-deo.html
@@ArtIsRightthank you SO much! This showed where I was going wrong and gave me a much better starting point 🎉🎉🎉
@@ArtIsRightI did as you showed but actually at the end I clicked on validate and the ‘next’ button was as greyed out and I was unable to validate the profile I just completed. Any idea why? I tried closing and opening the cover on the measuring device but it still is greyed out. EDIT: reboot of Calibrite software worked and got a delta E of all patches Max of 1.8. Excellent!
Nice!
Will the HL devices work with a 2017 model MacBook or should I get the original model?
backwards compatible, yes. Get the new one incase you have a new display.
@@ArtIsRightthanks for the quick advise. I still have the 2017 MacBook Pro 15in with the built in Retina Display.
Hey there :). Do you can see better results with Spyder X2 Ultra? Or do you prefer Calibrite Display Plus HL over Spyder X2 Ultra? :)
Better is irrelevant because for these devices verification is done via the program that create the profile. As far as sensor and engineering goes, hand down, I would choose Calibrite / X-Rite any day of Spyder. Here's a quick low down on Spyder devices regardless of generation. The spectral / EDR data, which is needed to run proper calibration on various display backlight tech for Spyder is stored on a ROM Chip on the device, this cannot be upgraded. Calibrite / X-Rite on the other hand is stored in the software and with this when new display tech comes out, if the sensor is capable of measuring said backlight, these data can be upgraded via software. With Spyder you would just have to put in more money and buy a new device. So for any mini led display, I would choose Calibrite Display Pro HL or Display Plus HL any day. If testament of time is anything, X-Rite i1Display Pro was released more than a decade back and is still sold today and can measure all new displays tech up till now with the exception of miniLED backlight. In this time frame Spyder has release 3 new devices. So if one calculate the pricing in totality, one would pay more choosing with Spyder over time. And even if one generation of upgraded is skipped in the 3 gen release, the price that one would pay is about the same or more than Calibrite / X-Rite. Long-term the math does not really add up. And you also have an inferior overall sensor especially when it comes to darker tones and details.
@@ArtIsRight That helps me a lot :). Just bought the Calibrite Display Plus HL after your comment. Thank you very much :)
@@hochzeitsfotograf.dominik Can you please share some insights for how was your experience with their newer device? I am planning to buy it but a little bit confused whether to get this newer one or their older variants.
Hi Art, I found that after calibrating with Display Plus HL on my 14 MacBook Pro M2 Pro. I can not see HDR content on my Safari or Chrome. The white color is burned, and no detail. If you also find this kind of problem, please advice. Thank you.
You need to enable HDR in the reference mode or use the Apple Display XDR reference mode.
@@ArtIsRight thank you!
Art will it work with my Apple Pro Display XDR?
I just did the profile in this video and it works just fine!
It'd be great to learn why or for how long we should trust a calibrator that may cost an order of magnitude less than a monitor factory-calibrated with expensive measuring devices? I don't see much discussion about whether or how long the relatively cheap calibrator stays calibrated or true in its measurements.
There's a lot to unpack with many wrong premise. Factory calibration are to a reference standard that is not any of our computer. None of our computer output references standards, hardware, software, drivers, all changes the image output. All displays must be factory calibrated just how much effort is done at the factory and the quality of the panel. These instrument is a great and economical way to bring any computer graphical output as close to spec as possible. True is relative, as far as how long these calibration last, these are software calibrated display and they will only last as long as the display remain constant. With everything there's degradation, burn-in period and decay. That is why it is recommend to recalibrate every 2 - 4 weeks. So these devices are not meant to mimic factory calibration but rather reference calibration.
@@ArtIsRight Hey, thanks for the reply! I didn't mean how long the calibration would last so much as how long we should expect the calibration instrument (e.g., calibrate display plus HL) to measure exactly the same way over time. People say monitors change, but do the measuring instruments also change? I've not seen anyone talking about it. And regarding monitors, the Pro Display XDR, for example, does have reference modes; I would think they are factory calibrated on those reference modes.
Yes the instruments also should be calibrated at certain frequencies. But the sensor drift is much less than that of a display.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks. That's the topic of information I'm looking for, and the conversation I'm not finding online. If there is sensor drift too (albeit you're saying relatively more slowly than monitors), how will the user know when, or when not, to trust it? I also haven't seen manufactures talking about what you are calling sensor drift.
I have a benq s271. Is there any benefit for me in calibrating that display with the calibrate display plus he?
not for SW271
@@ArtIsRight Unfortunately I calibrated my sw271 with my display pro and the colours went insane, i tried to recalibrate with PM and it won’t work. I am left with a lime green display.
If you have SW271 the compatible software is Palette Master Element. If you have the SW271C, you would use Palette Master Ultimate. Knowing if you have the C model or not matters. Also Palette Master (PM) are are 2 varieties the element and ultimate as I have mentioned. If your display changes color there's something going on with the OS or software running in the background. either dm me or contact your local BenQ support for help on this
With Apple XDR display for new 14" and 16" Macbooks Pro, does it make sense to calibrate the displays with new HL devices from Calibrite, or just do fine-tuning for white point using a previous iteration of Calibrite devices that don't support mini-leds? I have an earlier generation, and I don't know if it is worth buying the new generation, given the significant cost increase. I'm doing printing and photo editing on the new Macbook Pro.
Display Pro HL sells at the same price at the ColorChecker Display Pro. As far as to calibrate or just simply do fine-tune that would depend on your workflow and needs.
@@ArtIsRight thanks for getting back to me! Really appreciate your work, long term subscriber. In my personal case I have the Calibrite ColorChecker Display which is basically the Calibrite Display SL and has the same price, but neither of them support mini-led and I'm forced to go higher if I want to calibrate mini-led. My workflow is editing, soft proofing and then printing on Epson P-900 or in the lab my personal photo work. Previously I had older Macbook with the conventional LCD where I used Calibrite ColorChecker Display to calibrate it. So I'm left with a debate whenever it would be good enough to use my old Calibrite and do the fine-tuning or go with full blown display calibration with the new Calibrite Display Pro HL and whener it's worth spending on Calibrite Display Pro HL when I have the less advance model.
with ColorChecker Display you are unable to measure white point for fine tuning. This cannot be done with ccProfilier nor can it be done with Calibrite Profilier software. It is a software cap based on the device. What it comes down to is, are you able to get good, matching or close to matching colors now. If so keep what you have and continue what you do, if not you might need another solution.
@@ArtIsRight you are absolutely right, I could not use ccProfilier and Calibrite Profilier to measure the white point, but I could do that reliably with DisplayCAL (calibration tab). Just leaving this for anyone trying to use the Calibrite ColorChecker Display to fine tune their Apple XDR display.
I received my Display Pro HL today, is there a different Calibrite Profiler software for these devices?
Yes, it should be used with the updated version 1.2 If this is not publicly on the web yet please contact Calibrite support for help on this.
@@ArtIsRight Thank you for your quick response adding you now.
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The previous version of this device (Calibrite Colorchecker Display Plus) can handle 2000 nit also, so that is also a solution for macbook’s mini led, right? (which are about max 1600nit)
In general one would think so, but that is only 1 part of a larger equation. That previous device lack MiniLED display spectral data, so you can use it to calibrate XDR displays, but the color gamut that you are going to get is sRGB equivalent and not P3.
@@ArtIsRight I just upgraded the Calibrite CC Display Plus HL. What do you think about profiling macbook's default XDR 1600 nit preset? Is it possible now to calibrite that to colorcorrect? (of course without the True Tone option) Or we need to stay with Photography profiles like so far?
@@ArtIsRight (edited) I played the whole night with my new Display Plus HL device. I used the ccProfiler and the calibrite Profiler as well. Very weird, but the two program measerures totally different x y values on the white patch with the same settings! How can it be? Pfs phosphor, D65, 160 nit (ccProfiler does not have mini led option!)
@@ArtIsRight Does that mean that the hardware is incapable of calibrating a MacBook pro mini-LED display, or just that calibrite is not providing the software to do so?
@@zohairkhan5755 I believe this is a software thing, which is a bummer
Is this product a spectroradiometer?
Colorimeter
HI Thanks for the information i want ask you if i get this monitor EP950 27 with calman i will gat bast monitor mastering IN SDR i am colorist at egypt and i have calman 2021 and I know to do calibration but i am Stop at an important point what bast probe Calibrite ColorChecker Display Plus or new new version HL PLUS what more accuracy in low light or what the bast of oled panal I usd REC907 2.4 and Thank you
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if you are going to buy a new calibrator just get the Display Plus HL, no point going back
@@ArtIsRight old one have more accuracy in low light
@@ArtIsRight The Calibrite ColorChecker Display Plus (2000 nits) has better low-level readings
sure, many people says that and it is true but they are all good, and truth be told, one can't really tell the difference, but you choose you.
So in the end, it was a hardware problem, not software... waiting for your fine tune video
What I have been told, my thoughts withstanding.
calibrite is only pulsing and not loading (mac ventura) new display plus hl aug 15 2023
are you using the latest version of Calibrite Profilier software? I would update that first and if anything please reach to your local Calibrite support for help.
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Hi, Art. Calibrite says their Display Pro HL is compatible with both HDR up to 3000 nits and Apple XDR displays and accurately measures, calibrates and profiles LCD, mini-LED, OLED displays, and Apple XDR panels, Are you saying I won't be able to profile my MacBook Pro (late 2021) in HDR reference mode?
Go to this page calibrite.com/us/display-device-specs/
3 Bullets points / Row down next to "HDR Support" Note that only the Display Plus HL is listed. Not the Pro HL. The pro can still calibrate high nits display but won't be able to profile in HDR REC 2020. Also at this point in time there are various reference mode that can activate the XDR function but none of them are technically HDR reference mode and Apple has been extremely careful not to put this in. In addition to this, there are specific triggers to activate XDR / HDR functions that are not yet available in most calibration apps except for a few of the highend - pro variety when linked to any Apple XDR display. Simply put HDR for content creation even on Apple Displays is still the Wild West.
@@ArtIsRight Thanks for the reply!
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@@ArtIsRight I would need the Plus version to do Rec2020 in HDR. 😟