Netracell drops - what you REALLY get | Warframe
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The drop rates have changed as of the Dante Unbound update in response to community feedback!
Yeah, definitely expect to see a huge rework to netracell drop table this is ridiculous
I expect an Echos update to include a Steel Path version of Netracells that can be run over and over again with only 5 chances per week at the Tauforged shards, but still able to get the Arcanes.
@@roberthartley6699yay another mind numbing farm in choreframe
effervo runs have already turned my brain into mush i cant take it anymore
Honestly the arcanes cost a ton of plat and at this rate I would expect early adaptors to be actually getting off cheap. While I did buy mine for a hefty price, I support your sentiment 100%, it is ridiculous. I only bought them because I am lazy and had expendable plat, not because I genuinely thought it'd be this ridiculously low drop tables. This needs to change.
@@roberthartley6699i like the way you think
7 out of 15 Items in the Netracell droptables can be bought individually from Bird 3, DE is stuffing the Droptables with poop
The melee arcanes you can buy from bird 3 shouldn't be in the reward pool for netracell missions. You only get 5 tries a week, it's just an unnecessary grind and making the price be insane in the market.
Exactly! I dont want cheap, easy to get iems as my only 5 times a week reward! Its so insulting that half the reward pool is uselss for something we cant even farm
In the month this update has been out I have gotten 6 adapters, 3 normal archon shards, and loads of the same rare and uncommon arcanes. It's been quite frustrating. It would be great if DE, say in the next update, remove the rare and uncommon melee arcanes and replaced them with something else more useful, considering how trivial they are to get outside of Netracells, especially with Gargoyle's cry going on and them being available for rep from the Kavia.
Always sucks to see DE artificially lengthen grinds by just adding so much filler. It's like they're afraid of people completing the content island too fast but they don't know how to make anything other than content islands
Or just add a pity system so you get at least 2 per week? At least? Currently, your friend can get 5 and you can get zero.
@@maskettaman1488 every expansion update is going to be like this, new place, new game modes, new rewards, saying "content island" is not a good enough critique, at least netracells have some longevity, plus arcane gambling for melee arcanes is coming probably with an echos update, so they only care about keeping people playing when a new update just released
what DE is failing at is not using these newer locations and game modes in the currently established star chart modes, like no steel path incursions on the zariman and others, no new sorties with these new tiles and modes, no new arbitration or sanctuary maps, not using the sentient tileset outside of railjack and one kahl mission even though they could plop some archon hunts in there too
@@gratianray2 This is literally a content island. I'm not sure what you mean by "critique" when I'm simply describing what it is. That would be like claiming that calling Warframe a videogame is just a "critique" lol
The fact that none of the modes or mechanics they've added integrate in to the core game is literally because they built it to be a content island. You go to the island to do the island mechanics to get island standing to buy rewards. That is the ONLY way they know how to add content any more and it's making the game less and less enjoyable
@@maskettaman1488 NOT a content island, in this case. "Content island" usually means that the rewards you get within the content island only help you do better within the content island of missions/play, thus you have no reason the play the island outside doing better in the island itself. Classic examples are new MMO raids or areas that introduce a special damage type or mechanic that only exists within the raid or area, and whose rewards have special protection against exactly those issues. Sometimes the "reason" for doing things this way is given by the devs as "wanting to give veteran players something to do while not wanting beginner players to feel they NEED the new rewards". etc.
With shards, legendary melee arcanes, and melee arcane adaptors in netracells, all of which help to advance the play in literally the entire rest of the game this is literally NOT a content island by its conventional definition. You seem to be complaining that it is another area where you get standing in a new faction. What exactly do you want? Can you give a specific example of how you would do it better? I could go for something different too, especially where the majority of the exp is not tied up in a pure easter egg hunt designed to level the time it takes for everyone. This is the second new area where hunting for easter eggs (in this case voca) is very prominent. I don't hate it as much as some people, but I would hate it if they always do that. They have to realize that choice sets the type of gameplay - optimizing for finding the do-dads - just as much as "mission types".
I have no idea why the legendary arcanes don't also have a chance to drop from the 60 eye fragmented one; if not from both versions, at least the steel path version. It makes no sense that the hardest thing in Warframe only has a cosmetic as a unique item in its drop table.
To be fair, every single time they locked powerfull items behind actually challenging content, a good chunk of the playerbase starts reeing about how unfair it is
@@fenchellforelle Fortunately they will still be available from netracells, and netracells it self is trying to be a very hard and challenging mode already
@@fenchellforelle I've never understood that in this game in particular, I don't think anyone would be mad since this would just be an additional way to get these ridiculously low chance drops
No, hardest thing in Warframe having only a cosmetic as a reward is finally warframe having endgame. Let us have content that is NOT SUPPOSED TO BE FARMED. Just work towards achieving it. Do it once, get reward and bragging rights, move on.
Not everything has to be a farm.
@@gallonofcats1097 Have you never played a looter before? Even raids etc. are replayable for rewards without that, there is no reason to do it. Putting extra resources into something that is only worth completing once is just silly. On top of all of that, its a pretty ugly cosmetic.
Crescendo/Duplicate could be the "new" Energize/Grace
out of both of them only Crescendo is better one unless if DE let Duplicate to affect Super Critical damage/red crit damage.
maybe in terms of rarity but not in terms of usefulness, atleast compared to energize.
New? These are worse.
Until people realize that these are nowhere near as useful as energize and the demand peters out. AE is still useful to this day despite how much easier energy is to come by.
crescendo is new energize. duplicate is new grace.
The non-legendary arcanes really shouldn't be available as a reward for the netracell, given the fact they're bought with standing, as well as dropped from both the new murmur boss and the whisper miniboss. Also-- a really poor oversight on DE's part (unsurprisingly really), but if you've already done the 5 for the week, and then decide to help a friend (found this out during the first week, since I did them solo the day of release, then helped a friend on friday do his), and you decide to kill the whisper as well? Well you just straight up won't get any reward. Even for the whisper being killed.
Wow, that's terrible. Glad I know this now before helping clan members out with them.
DE could solve a lot of the RNG issue by removing the non legendary arcanes from the netracell loot pool and either increasing the drop chances of duplicate and crescendo or adding other rare items to the drops.
Knowing DE they will be making the legendary melee arcanes easier to obtain as such I kept one copy of each and have been selling the rest for big plat numbers. Worst case I can buy them back when the price drops in a year.
They said that they refrained from adding the new arcanes in Loid's shop because otherwise people with many duplicates would just dump them and roll for the new arcanes on day 1. I'm pretty sure they will add the new melee arcanes as an option in Loid's shop in the future.
You already got more than one?
@@whitemagus2000 yeah, I got 2 of each and sold the spares for over 200 plat total
After 10 years, I have fully accepted the fact, that new hot items, especially the DPS increasing ones, will be easier to farm half a year later.
@@IplayTeemoasaWard literally same.
Something important to mention before you break your bank for legendary melee arcanes: the Cavia arcanes will be getting a pack at a later date. Pablo said as much in the devatream before Whispers, logic being that they didn’t want arcane hoarders to clean house and not have to play the new content for the arcanes.
TLDR: don’t feel bad, arcane dissolution will save us
>not have to play the new content for the arcanes
They literally allow people to buy all the new Tennokai and Tomb mods for plat but they're worried about people being able to get Legendary melee Arcanes? Okay.
Same way DE said they'd "pause" decreasing riven disposition to the new incarnon adapter weapons and would reconsider on Grendel prime release, only to come with the excuse that none of the new incarnons are "meta-defining" (one quick glance at torid incarnon tells you otherwise).
Needless to say that the rivens for those weapons still go for high amounts of platinum, I wonder if these 2 things have any connection...
I wouldn't trust what they say until it happens.
@TheTundraTerror Because the plat that people spend on mods, goes directly back to the source, being DE. Same with those stupid plat > credit bundles, and the mod/relic packs, or god forbid, the awful exchange rate for endo packs in the marketplace. Arcanes aren't ever for sale in the marketplace. Ever notice how greater focus lens items aren't tradeable anymore? Only way you can get those (without crafting them or getting them through bounties) is from the marketplace now, and extremely overpriced too.
@@TheTundraTerrorAlso "tome", not "tomb"
@@celestialkitsune That's a lot of words to say "it's okay because DE makes money off of it".
This is assuming you don't get a bug where the Necramite doesn't spawn or spawns but can't be destroyed
Or that the waypoint for it doesn't trigger and it spawns 600 meters from your current position. That was not fun...
The drop tables that came with the newest updates are completely out of line. Netracells giving Arcanes that you can buy with standing are a complete joke. There is nothing more demotivating than spending over an hour doing your weekly five Netras (thanks for "fixing" Steel Path without bumping up the spawn rates, DE) and not even getting a single shard or even a legendary Arcane. It really is two steps forward, one step back with DE.
Agreed, everyone is fawning over this update but the drop rates on everything are just awful. Bounty rewards are shit, Netracells give out basic enemy drops, and they aren't even telling us the arcane dissolution rates.
NGL the only compliant I have for the update is the drop table for this mission, the shite arcanes don't belong there
Completely agree on demotivating part. 2 weeks in a row i've gotten 1 adapter, 1 archon shard and 3 normal arcanes i could buy with rep, or get from any other mission with grimoire on it. Things that should not even be on the droptable tbh.
Droprates in missions and netracells are awefull. And it baffels me they didn't up the droptabels SP nodes ATLEAST? They did it with the Voruna and Citrine update, so why not on these nodes?
@@Daniel._.. my biggest complaint is how they handled the new archon shard buffs. It would’ve been great if they had explained how the archon shards worked in the patch notes. Just tell us that the topaz shards are supposed to be multiplicative instead of letting the community spread misinformation after saying that the shard has been fixed when it’s still broken.
Always love your info and true application for the general game play and mechanics of the latest content🤙🏼
Just want to say that you're my favorite warframe youtuber. Your information, and presentation of said information are top notch, and I appreciate your balanced opinions.
We may have arcane dissolution now, but I expect DE will still improve the drop chances for the legendary melee arcanes
the problem is that you can't get the melee arcanes from dissolution
@rabiithous3 except DE said they are adding them to dissolution eventually
@@mrlaughgas yah sorry that was a misunderstanding i meant to say right now 😅. heard about that, will be exciting!
Probably be way better if the rare arcanes got out of the drop table and the legendary arcanes had a higher chance.
I can accept the adapters since they are exclusive outside the shop (that I know of), but as someone who's basically soloing Gargoyle's Cry, it feels really bad to get uncommon and rare arcanes after my 2-hour weekend binges of the boss. Even a vosphor cache to replace the arcanes would feel better.
I've done every netracell possible up to now and not gotten a single shard only the arcane adapter and bottom tier arcanes
amazing video once again! thanks!
For me, the issue would be solved, if DE would change the drop table in the following way:
1. Remove all non-legendary Arcanes
2. Up the percentages for all remaining items accordingly.
Nothing more needed. Everything but the trivial Arcanes is fine. I am happy with what I get and can truly enjoy this mission every week.
I have real progression to look forward to and would be 100% content.
I personally don’t care about the new legendary arcanes. Duplicate is too niche and crescendo is a bit too tedious. Whenever I get one I just immediately pawn it off in trade chat for free 100 plat.
Go higher next time. Can easily get 130 minimum for them
Ran every Netracell since it came out. Only had ONE melee duplicate drop.. not even a crescendo.. drop rates are wicked. So from my RNG it would take approximately two years to max out melee duplicate. They should also take out any arcane we can get from Assasination...
i had run it same amount of time and got 2 duplicates and 1 crescendo at the end of the day is just numbers it can go either way , besides is not like they are that op they average if anything
There’s 3 different looks for the main cell itself, the chest and jar gives you archon shards or common arcanes but the third one give you arcane like crescendo and duplicate
In the month since the update, ive gotten 1 Crescendo and 1 Duplicate
To put in perspective, i have played around 250 times effervo due to gargoyles cry, in *250* runs and over 15 netracell runs i have only gotten 2 duplicate and 1 crescendo. I even got 3 tauforged but legendary arcanes are just insanely rare
You have about 25,1% chance per week to get 1 melee crescendo. So on average every month you get one.
How did you obtain 25.1% ? Would be curious to see the calculation
@@TheMrAlan44 the chance to get one is 5,6% so the chance to not get one is 94,4%. You have 5 tries per week to get the arcane, so you need to multiply the chance to not get it 5 times: 0.944*0.944*0.944.... so after 5 tries you have 74.9% to not get it, which also means you have 25.1% to get it. On average you would get it every 4th time and you have 4 weeks in month, so 1 every month.
@@vilhoeriksson thanks you :)
Since release including this week I haven't received a single duplicate:(
When you run them so many times and are so used to not getting tau forged and then you check archon shards and a tauforged made its way into your inventory
I got a crazy run this week with 2 Tau and 2 normal shards.
Good thing neither of the Legendaries really seem to hold up to scrutiny.
Duplicate has a very niche restriction on it, leaving it very awkward other then for maybe a half dozen particular gimmicks.
Crescendo holds up a bit better, but is also tedious to actually build up. Probably only really shiny for people trying to level cap with pseudo-exalteds (all of whom then have to sac a helminth slot or do specific operator stuff to reliably build it up). Even moreso with Tennokai being added at the same time, so poeple doing combo-building heavy attack builds would be more likely to use the TK proc to just not spend the combo then wait 6 seconds for initial combo to recharge itself.
For more regular use, Exposure is just well, a free 240% damage mod with a quality element in itself, a bonus for condition overload, and won't mix into your other mods.
gonna point out that melee fortification does stack, meaning 150 per melee kill
Could a possible solution be each curse you hold is 1 reward? I usually solo these and run all 4 by necessity
This is the sort of data that needs to be forwarded to Megan and Pablo. As always, the Kengineer delivers the information and shows us why the drop tables are pobber poop. I see no reason why the arcanes in Bird 3's shop are also in the Book Boss nectracell tables. Obnoxious roulette wheels like these are exactly why I can be found on (Apollo, Lua) and killing one demolisher per round.
Keep the hits coming, Kenny. 🤔👌
Things have gotten a bit better now with the 4:1 tauforged conversion coming with the next update, but the legendary arcanes are a big bruh moment still
I have the feeling the next update is gonna include some big changes to this in game activity
I didnt try those missions yet and seeing the drop tables I might wait until they release part 2 of WITW xD
I’ve done every single netracell so far since release, and I still have not gotten a single Melee Crescendo drop.
@thekengineer did you add in the pity system in your calculations? You're guaranteed a tau forged shard in 5 weeks of archon hunts.
Yes, I covered this in the video on how the pity system works out.
how many missions would it take to get a single shard on average?
the statistic of missions/year feels almost little useless to me since I only play every once in a while
3, as the shards have a combined 35% drop rate.
I got 4 melee duplicate in 1st and 2nd week, but no crescendo
Hallelujah that Dante Unbound is fixing the Netracell drop table
I’ve gotten 6 normal crimson and 4 tauforged azure and a tauforge amber already rest has been melee arcanes, 0 of the adapters
I like you. You keep things fun and interesting
Great info
I did the archon hunt this week and i got a tauforged amber (20%) , then i did two netracels and i got 2 tauforged amber, what are the chances of this happening again?
Got three melee arcanes today. No shards but one crecendo and Duplicate.
Out of 15 missions i got 1 tao shard ans 2 normal, the rest were mostly arcanes
the most ridiculous aspect of this is that rare arcanes (available outside of netracells) are mixed in with the legendaries
Then why there is some people already sell full rank Melee crescendo just weeks after this new update?
I just got back into warframe after about 2-3+ years because of cross save and I caught up on all the story and all the stuff I want is gated weekly I want to start ramping up my builds but because I’ve only had access to for two weeks I have 4 archon shards. I don’t mind low rates but at least let me farm them you know.
Yo seeing that it’s 2.5% means I got crazy lucky getting 2/5 tauforged archon shards this week
The second week of Netracells being available I used up all of my luck at once and got a Tauforged Blue from the Archon Hunt, and 2 Tau Reds, 1 Tau Amber and 1 Blue, and then a melee Duplicate
Since then I usually only manage to get at least 1 Tau
I’ve gotten 4 melee duplicates already & 4 Tauforged red shards & I want the Tauforged Blue shards lol but drop tables feel alright since I haven’t gotten any blue ones lol
DE should perhaps add the option to ask Tagfer to "search for netracells" containing a specific type of loot with a cost in resources like an archon shard or "arcane dust" and echo vocas, to tamper with the next week's loot able making it favour your choice, a sort of upfront pity system, to reduce these insane estimates. Making the boss fight have a chance to drop the legendary arcanes or at least the steel path boss only would also be nice.
The limit should be removed. Personally, i want to run netracells because they are fun for me. I like playing the 'harder' content and would love to see more added in the future. It sucks that we only get 5 chances. Why run the mission if there arent any rewards, right? Its a shame some of the best content gets reduced to 5 and done.
DE is scared that people will stop playing their newest content island too soon so they artificially make it take longer with things like filler drops and limiting how much you can actually play. It is 100% anti-player and exists only to make their engagement metrics look good
@maskettaman1488 it's silly. I would farm for shards for everyone. If they just gave us drops, it wouldn't shatter the economy or anything. It would give more for players to do. It would better the game. But hey, i have everything done for the week, so I guess I'm off the game until reset right? Smh
@@securatyyy "i have everything done for the week, so I guess I'm off the game until reset right?" is the reason I made the jump to other games from Destiny.
@@SLDFSpectreSixto be fair, destiny is still the utmost worst offender when it comes to that. But you are right,DE should stop relying on limited time weekly content. I just fear DE will always be stuck with a monkeys paw mentality when it comes to content for eternity. They wouldn't need to be if they added something like raids back, with an increased player cap.
@@maskettaman1488 what live service games dont do this? like it or not, engagement metrics matter to the suits and they determine the fate of the studio.
What am I going to do with 34563533 melee adapters?
I must have some crazy luck. I got 2 or 3 tau forged shards in a row, first time I ever tried it. and a normal shard, followed by a melee adaptor
in my first 10 netra cells, i've gotten 2 tauforged amber 1 tauforged red, and one normal red, 2 melee duplicates, and so on in adapters and other various mods..
already got 2 tauforged shards, 4x duplicate and 1x crescendo
i got 5 yellow shards in a row whats the chance of that
For doing this netracells mission for the start of the update i havent even gotten a shard , its just common melee arcane and melee adapter. So expectations are very low
I guess I’m just lucky, after around 10 runs I landed one of each legendary which doesn’t feel right in terms of variance it’s possible that there’s a certain amount of bad luck protection maybe
I was wondering about why DE haven't released something for melee multi hit after duviri update, then they did release the arcane on this update which is a good thing, but then the arcane drop rate itself is way worse than energize, which is I always love grinding in warframe after I came back playing back at 2020 after hiatus for 3 years because of u know back then so many stuff r kinda need a long time grind to get them, but then they fixed those things, now... it back to that state again, which is makes me doesn't even care to play anymore after a couple of weeks of trying ti grind that arcane
sure we got other things while grinding for *_JUST_* that 1 arcane, but if that 1 arcane itself is almost impossible to drop, what's the point? it's like searching for a needle in a stack of a haystack, but in this case the stack is as huge as The Void
*_Legendary_* tier arcane, drop almost impossible, n we need 21 of them? what a joke, well good thing I also play other MMORPG, so I can just ditch warframe again, n go hiatus again
well... suit the name, Legendary which is almost impossible to get, tbh I never ever thought about buying something from another player as my 1st resort, which is ofc because it feels like p2w, but now I kinda change my mind for how to actually get that Melee Duplicate Arcane, buy from the lucky ones who doesn't care about the arcane itself
They should make 60 eye like 3% drop rate for legendary melee arcane to make it more usefull but stil rare
Pablo has specifically said he doesn't want to make 60 eyes a viable farm for anything. It's supposed to be optional content to challenge the 'sweatiest' players.
@@Joe90h yeah but once you do it like 50 times is not challenging anymore and it loses taste , the only think you get about it is when random players just die to it
@@vergil9981 Then stop doing it? It's not a viable farm for anything, after all.
@@Joe90h”optional content to challenge the ‘sweatiest’ players” is exactly what a gear check like 60 eyes should stay as. Pablo doesn’t always get things right but this time that’s definitely the right call since it is ultimately just a gear check and a pointless one to more than 90% of the player base.
I feel the melee arcanes it drops from netracell should be limited to melee crecendo and the other rare one if they're gonna keep them in because the rest you literally get from multiple other game modes and can outright buy right now
okay as someone how got 3 red shards *as a gauss* one of them being the upgrated rare in the FIRST week coming back to it i was thinking i was unlucky that out the 6 chances i had i only got 3
Kind of off topic, but why is the distribution function for the drops a sigmoid?
I had 4 of these arcanes drop in the first 2 weeks, but only crap since.
The basic melee arcanes being in the drop table was a mistake, in my opinion.
I'm actually not bothered by these drop rates as much as I might have been in previous updates. Provided that DE follows through with adding these new arcanes to the dissolution system in a timely manner. I'm just going to break down the ones I don't need and continually reroll that until I get what I want. And I can also dump my rep into that system as well. It's not ideal but it does mitigate this issue a little bit
Except people can go weeks with only obtaining normal arcanes that are easily farmed or bought and dissolution is not a good enough excuse to provide those arcanes.
its been confirmed that cavia arcane are getting added to the arcane gatcha machine eventually, though its unclear when exactly that will be, if its going to be in 6 months or 2 years, who can say.
That will atleast take six or more months. It will probably happen when the next bigger content expansion drops that includes more new arcanes.
DE really wants mental and physical gymnastics for Shards.
Took me a couple hours to max melee duplicate. I used the "sell sell rivens and buy everyone else's arcanes" farming strat
>Implying they won't cave in and adjust the drop rates & tables like they've done every single time before.
Some of you act like you've never played an MMO.
My homie who got one of those legendary arcane:
“Oh hell yeah I got it”
Me:
“You mean *WE* got it”
*USSR anthem playing*
In 10 runs i got 6 arcanes 2 bugs that canceled the run and 2 archon shards
After 3 weeks of doing all the netracells (haven't finished this weeks set), I have 1 super rare arcane. So only 41 to go.
could definitely do with less adapters. I did like 4 runs and got 4 adapters and 1 arcane.
we can get by with 1 arcane crescendo but the melee duplicate if you want to have it r5 :"v
Its kinda annoying that it says that archon shards are the common drop but Ive gotten 6 melee adapters in 10 runs with not a single archon shard
I have a question, if the drop rate is this ridiculous. Then where did those maxed arcane on the market from?
People buying from others or pooling resources to sell while the prices are high.
@@TheKengineer Thanks for the answer
Welp didn`t know its so low. Considering myself lucky to get 2 tauforged in a row the first week I made the missions
In the past two weeks I've gotten 8 silver arcanes (which I already have maxed), one yellow shard and one blue shard. Yaaay...
They should put orokin reactors and catalysts in place of the arcanes.
Ive only got one crescendo and one duplicate and ive done all my netracells every week 🤷♂️.
i got one normal shard from 10 runs. yay? almost tempted to do kahls shitty garrison over this, almost
I think all they really need to do is remove all the standing cost arcanes. The 30 some percent chance to drop these arcanes should be split between the archon shards and legendary arcanes.
The melee arcane adapter is 50k and so pretty worth it, I don't mind this, but this should remain the same drop rate.
Then you have archon shards and the 2 legendary arcanes making up 80% drop chance between them.
Currently just over a third of the time you get essentially junk, that you can trivially farm for elsewhere or buy with a minimal standing cost.
Ok am à compagny i put out new content with a HUGE influx of players constantly doing the new thing. What do i do. Give good drop chances so everyone Burnside out doing that one thing, or do i give medium to low chances so i can adjust later on, making sure not all players dropped the hot new thing and leaving right after.
Its going to get better give it time.
i have a feeling that 1999 will add more ways to get those legendaries
I already got 2 melee duplicate arcanes. I'll simply just hit that 19 more times
My first 5 netracells dropped 1 melee duplicate, 2 crimson archon shards and 2 of something so useless I forgot them already
Got three tau from netracells so far, 1 red 2 blue, man I hope that luck holds lol
I need blue tau, but keep getting yellow. I can at least use the reds I've gotten, but I'm trying to get a set of tau purple and it's just not dropping for me. Approaching a point where I could make some orange shards without damaging my plans for making purples.
Mesa needs a couple more tau orange, but I might just throw some tau back onto Limbo because I find the amped casting speed oddly funny. Probably will be a while before I fiddle with tau green though.
they should just let you combine regular shards to make a tau, i have about 30 tau and 110 regular shards ive beengrinding since archon shards came out probably after about 2 years they will make it easier to get or just add it to the packs for vosphor
You forgot go mention the arcane adapter which also can be bought, I have 4 of them now.... Drops so far: 1 tau, 1 adapter, 1 leg. arcane, 2 shards, the rest were melee arcane I already have R5 of, so .... my RNG is not good.
honestly:
My big issue is that:
5 runs PER WEEK
with high odds of getting things you don't want (E.g. archon shards when you want the unique arcanes or arcanes when you want the shards)
IMO here is what I'd prefer:
Option A (preferable imo):
No cap
Reasoning:
- The cap makes it so there is a static chance per week to get what you want. You can't just grind MORE if you want something specific.
- It gives lategame players something to grind when they have completed everything else
- it feels terrible to get a "junk item" (aka something you don't need) from something on a timelimit (Given, you feel like you missed out)
Notes:
- maybe add even more stuff to the loot-pool to balance it out e.g. rivens, umbra forma blueprint, all of the arcanes from other areas, steel essence? and to make it more of an infinite grind for "rare stuff" rather than it being for specific items
- An endless grind aka "an end-game" is something people have been asking for for...well forever and this seems like a perfect start. Maybe add some more missions with the same loot-pool/level for each enemy faction for variety and we might finally have the coveted "end-game" (IMO)
Option B:
Remove the common arcanes from the lootpool
Reasoning
- Realistically, you aren't running a WEEKLY mission for items you can just buy from a vendor for a fraction of the effort
- common arcanes (Regardless of quality) feel a bit insulting to get at this level of content.
Option C:
Implement a Pity system (E.g. "necracells") that you can but items from the loot-pool with
Reasoning:
- I think RNG + WEEKLY content is just a bad mix and a recipe for something that isn't enjoyable for many players, sure some will get lucky but if you don't it can really ruin the experience. This ensures there is at least some guarantee of value to players with bad luck
- Allows players some freedom with their rewards
Two takeaways from this video: I need to do my netracell missions; the drop rng is depressing.
I am very glad i gave up on melee weapons a long time ago 💀💀💀
Still doing them for the shards tho cause i really like some of the new combined shards
Yeah... This week i got 1/2 adapters and the rest were silver/gold arcanes :/
The drop chance/rate of everything in Warframe needs to be doubled then it would be reasonable.
The legendary arcanes are insane. The absolute MINIMUM time required to max rank one of them is a whopping 5 WEEKS if you get it as the reward from all 5 cells for the week (not happening)
Eventually, these rare arcanes will drop from Vosfor packs. Keeping the good stuff rare when a new area opens is common.