Is Anti-White Racism Real?
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
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It’s pretty cathartic to hear hasan who didn’t receive early education in America react to our experiences of learning about slavery and oppression. His shock that we were taught that Jefferson was “nice” to his slaves. I legit remember learning that as a kid and it’s insane
Bro this is a problem that is simply not true making shit up is y ppl believe in systemic racism
I think the definition of "nice" americans are reffering too, is that he didnt abuse his slaves as much as the others
I was legitimately taught in HIGH SCHOOL that slaves were generally treated well. Since slaves were expensive, owners were incentivized to feed them nutritious meals and keep them happy. My teacher compared it to a modern farmers expensive tractor getting lots of maintenance and premium oil. We were taught that there were a couple of plantations that were brutal that the "good ones" would sell naughty slaves to as a punishment.
@@Saurawr “slaves were generally treated well” is an insane thing to say💀
it is a little insane tbh. in brazil we also had slavery (lasted 388 years, longer than the US btw) and we were taught how terrible it was. i remember being disgusted and frightened by the images and stories in my school books. was there some white washing? yes, we were taught that the princess that signed the abolition did it out of "kindness" and "love", when it was actually due to political pressure of the English crown to trade human labour for mechanical labour provided by the british. but nothing to the extend of "they were kind and nice to slaves".
Being Native American, Im so curious what this Jubilee Ep. would have looked like if it had involved more minority representation
savage
They probably tried but couldn't find a native that wasn't already murdered.
@@wheresthecomedy5808 oh my god
To be fair, you guys were so thoroughly genocided, both physicaly and culturally, that it isnt always easy to find a representative.....
@@immasurvivor i think you should delete this comment
The question can white people experience racism is loaded. Because the proper question is, can white people experience systemic racism in America. Any race can experience racism not all races in AMERICA experience systemic racism. White people can suffer from racism, but are they being systemically oppressed, no.
This is the right answer
POV: you finally found a sane person in this website
What you’re describing is prejudice. Ultimately it seems there’s no distinction between systemic and non systemic racism in the US, simply because race (not genetics) was created as a way to subjugate “non white” people. Racism itself is a system, and was designed as such. There is racism on the micro and macro scale, but it’s all inevitably systemic. I’m not disagreeing with you per se, but white people can’t experience racism anywhere, as whites created it with the intent of maintaining white supremacy. White people can negatively affected by the systems of white supremacy, but it’s not direct racism. EVERYONE can experience prejudice, but only some can experience racism.
@@graysonjd5624 yeah but noone really uses it that way especially suburban white people.
@@graysonjd5624 potato potato
Now I understand why people say: "There is no such thing as an ex-cop". Once you cop - you can't stop.
That cop definitely has a swastika tattooed on him somewhere.
Wtf are u talkin about lol
My parents were very adamant that I learned about my African American history very early and it lead to many parent teacher conferences and me butting heads with teachers throughout my entire education. From teachers teaching that slaves were slaves because they wanted to stay slaves to teachers arguing when I pointed out that the inventors of a lot of things were black. Like these teachers could not believe that these innovations could be made by non white people.
What inventions?
@@mack626 I'm curious myself. What inventions? Where slaves educated to be capable of inventing things?
@@mack626 Blood banks, 3 light traffic stops, gas masks and refrigerated trucks are some but look it up there is literally hundreds of inventions by black Americans. It bleeds also Into medical innovation especially in heart surgery and the we store blood, tech from home security to high speed computers, cultural innovation majority of all music in America was originated by black Americans ( rock, country, pop, soul, jazz, hip hop, and house). And that isn’t even the surface of it. The fact that there is this belief that all things were made and invented by white men is wild to me and that the only thing black people created is peanut butter and chips.
@@regalto7562Slaves invented many things but slaves were not considered people so not eligible for Patents and their masters would gain the credit. The whole point is to minimize the contribution of black and non white Americans to push a narrative that black and brown people aren’t true Americans that worked to build this country, therefore can’t complain about the treatment.
@em ma Ans these comments just prove the point these people can’t ever fathom a person of color inventing something it’s out of their vocabulary
Lol best part was when the cop said prison population statistics are completely different from racism. Amazing.
He was saying those statistics are different from his made up story, but he failed to understand that they're tied together because black people gets pulled over and incarcerated at a higher rate in the US.
He should've kept his mouth shut honestly.
Even more insane than that, he said prison population statistics are completely different from COPS EXERCISING RACISM. Man's lost all cognitive function.
Different from people getting pulled over … gosh you’re sucking everything this guy says
@@Pushh but how is it different from being pulled over? More black people are arrested/killed in traffic stops than anyone else. Is that not racism?
@@kevinruiz903 i remember there was also a study where it showed that fewer black drivers are stopped at night cuz "a veil of darkness" masks their race.
Americans will argue about literally everything EXEPT their own rights or fair wages.
@G R it’s counterproductive by design.
Honestly dude like why can’t we actually talk about the real issues here other than “oh no white person feels oppressed by being called a cracker”
@G R do you understand the etymological origin of the word cracker?
@G R damn. American malding at the word cracker. The american right is just soft
And the worst part is that is the most important issue.
20:44 Did this cop just admit he thinks when someone 'becomes jaded' it's understandable for that person to lose control and kill another person? I would have loved to ask him what if someone gets 'jaded' because of poverty and steals a car, would you also be so understanding? What of black people who got too 'jaded' by too many police traffic stops to give police officers the respect they want, does he have sympathy for that?
Exactly
Okay goddamn the fact that most of chats schools never taught them that the founding fathers owned slaves is insane. Living in a blue state, I genuinely thought literally everyone would have learned this, except maybe in like Alabama or some shit. Wtf
Nah dude our education here legit sucks over here.
Also as someone who grew out of the alt right pipeline and thankfully learned more about the world after highschool , but that’s why a lot of people I grew up with never made it out of the religious political ideals. Because even in schools the history of this country is being whitewashed , and more and more rapidly the past couple years..
If we aren’t allowed to look at our past mistakes how tf can we even try to repair any problems those mistakes caused?
But yeah dude American education was bullshit, I was lucky I spent most of my childhood dying from cancer and was able to let myself learn different and better perspectives about the world, but it doesn’t surprise me much anymore..especially since like over 40% of people in this country are also illiterate 😅
@@peterwilliams2887 glad to hear you recovered from cancer dude 🤝
@@peterwilliams2887 congrats on your recovery!
@@XXXTENTAClON227 aww thanks you guys, I really wasn’t trying to like make it all about me or nothing lmao but I’ve been through a lot in 21 years it’s been wild.
Technically I’m in remission from stage IV non Hodgkin’s lymphoma but I still have a tumor in my jaw cavity/near my brain that I always have to keep an eye on which is annoying. Trying to pry it out would be too complicated and pointless of a surgery at this point.
But appcreiate all the kind wishes peeps every days a battle but keep pushing on ya know…all you can do sometimes
Edit:: quite tired atm so apologize for any typos
@@peterwilliams2887 it’s a pretty significant part of your life, only a sociopath would assume you were being selfish by mentioning it lol. Don’t ever feel guilty about that. And hopefully you continue to recover 🙏 best wishes bro
If I owned a candy store, and sometimes lost a jelly bean or two to some kids, technically speaking I could call myself a victim of theft. If another candy store owner was regularly robbed at gunpoint, I would not say 'look at the two of us, victims of theft.'
@G R do you realise what he's saying ? Do you know basic English ? Just because two incidents can be categorised as one thing doesn't mean it's happening as often or on the same level .
@G R it still doesn't make any sense , me calling a white person a mayo monkey doesn't bring the generational trauma associated with slurs for black people . So it starts to become very subjective and will vary on the experiences on the person being asked the question , isn't a simple yes/no answer you debate pervert .
@G R so obsessed with being technically right that you're missing the entire point
@G R the point is pretending that these people are both victims of the same level of crime is absurd. Even though they are both technically victims of crime, one of them suffered far more than the other, and pretending like they're equally impacted is wrong and illogical
@G R But the original comment acknowledges it exists. Its just not a problem in any way shape or form.
These vids where hasan breaks systemic issues down like this is so helpful and understanding, especially when we don’t learn about any of this in school
It's good to listen to different people but form your own opinions
@@BluntforceJ Yes, but there are good, informed opinions and bad, uninformed opinions.
An opinion being treated as equal to other informed opinions on the mere virtue of being an opinion doesn't make it valid. We need to remember that.
@@BluntforceJ Hasan is smarter than me so I trust him to tell me what I should think.
@@hitachiuchihamagicwand2776 He says stupid things sometimes. No one is right all the time.
U don’t learn them Bc they aren’t real
I was taught extremely briefly that the founding fathers had slaves. It largely got glossed over for most of my schooling until highschool when my teacher literally got scolded every year for teaching a little outside the curriculum by saying that slavery is inherently bad, no matter how you treat the slaves (literally the bare minimum). Most other history classes taught that the founding fathers were "good" to their slaves because "They were given meals, homes, and 'jobs'". The only "bad" slave owners were those in the confederacy during the Civil War. That pretty much sums up teaching in a red county in a blue state.
Would giving a slave those things not make you better than someone who didn’t? Still an awful person of course, but it isn’t wrong
@@tedvftftcu6738 if you didn't give them the "job" they probably wouldn't be your slave, and if you didn't give them a "home"or meal, they would probably die to exposure or starvation. So really they were doing the bare minimum to maintain their investment, and nothing more. That doesn't seem any better than making sure a chicken is well fed so that there's more meat on the bones when it's inevitably butchered.
i wasnt even taught the founding fathers had slaves
My school did a pretty good job explaining how racism continued after the civil war and the civil rights movement overall but I really really wish they actually taught a lot more about economics in addition to the culture and social issues. Especially how black people were forcibly not allowed to build their own wealth or "lift themselves up by their bootstraps" and how those effects actually carry on to this present day even to this present day (thank god I discovered some more news' video on systemic racism). It's so easy to think "this was all in the past so long ago" (and conservatives will really try to push that sentiment hard) when there are still people alive today who were there during those movements
Weird how she finds getting called a cracker when I as a black guy was called 1
Or, hear me out, they're too stupid (and violent) to actually build a life for themselves and have opportunity like everyone else.
IQ doesn't lie
Just sharing some nuance: In Northern Europe there is a history of racism based on eugenics, not specifically skin-color. They categorized people into "subhuman" groups based on ideas of their culture/language AND biological factors. This is why the indigenous Sámi people, who for the most part are seen as white, have been oppressed and are to this day still experiencing racism and discrimination. When Nazi-Germany occupied Norway, they were concerned with the women from northern Norway being of Sámi decedent - as they were not of the "proper" white race. So when there were children born of war in Norway, fathered by German soldiers, Nazi-Germany wanted nothing to do with the children of Sámi mothers, only the ones mothered by Norwegian (white) women. In the Nordic countries it is more common to talk of ethnicity than race - because of this history of eugenic, that existed before World War 2. This is why there can be racism based on what someone might understand as ethnicity, or cultural belonging, but it connects to racism as these groups have been viewed as different races in the past - like the Sámi, and still are by some people.
so glad someone mentioned this
Another prominent example of racism in Europe would be the treatment of the Irish people at the hands of the British. Even as recently as March 2021, a British holiday park/resort chain was discovered to have had a blacklist of names, which were all traditional Irish surnames, which they would allow to rent at their resorts. Additionally, Channel 4 also had plans to set a comedy series during the Irish Famine. This would be the equivalent of Fox/CBS/NBC etc setting a comedy series during slavery. "No Irish need apply" signs were extremely common post WW2 well into the 60's and 70's.
@@DillsyYourDaddy67 I’m Scottish, and the issue between Ireland and England is no longer systemic as it was in the past. This is just my opinion, nothing more and I don’t want to be offensive or argumentative, but the Irish were wrongly discriminated against for nearly 500 years by the English, but that isn’t racism since being Irish isn’t a race, it’s an ethnicity. Also that comedy during the Irish famine is unbelievably tasteless, history shouldn’t be touched by cinema unless it’s realistic
very insightful !thank you very much.
The bit about US schools not teaching about founding fathers owning slaves made sense to me, I can’t remember it being much of a point of conversation in any history class before I took the AP course and either that textbook went into it or my teacher was just based
i'm not american but i'm so glad i had a based teacher tearing down a lot of sentiments of white supremacy and red scare propaganda out of me
Andrew Tate is better than this clown, my content is better
Yeah I had a teacher in middle school who was openly progressive and called out a lot of bullshot in textbooks and would even go on like 20 tangents and shit just to explain it lomot was awsome
@@Shan-rb5rl Sudbury bedbug brix shan burbank NCIS carry j zip pox Zuckerberg fifth kudzu all CTN cynical
@@Shan-rb5rl No, and no
I agree with pretty much everything Hasan is saying, but the question, " Do White People Experience Racism" isn't specific enough, and because of that the answer can change depending on how you define racism. Racism itself is a VERY complex issue and it manifests in many forms, and this is why we have more specific terms like interpersonal racism, systemic racism, historical racism, etc. I think most people even on the right would agree that white people haven't experienced historic or systemic racism, but where you lose people is when you say they can't experience interpersonal racism. Just by definition, anyone can experience interpersonal racism, even if it's not that impactful such as with white people. I don't think anyone is going to say that white people will ever experience interpersonal racism to anywhere NEAR the same degree that someone who is black might, but to say it CAN'T happen at all is the issue and it's where you start to lose people.
I think the fact that Hasan or anyone else answering this question immediately starts talking about systemic racism or historical racism kind of just shows how poor the question is. It should be more specific and we should really start being more specific with our terms and how we define things if we want to start getting all these bigoted right wingers on board with anything. You could go up to 5 different people and get 5 different definitions for what they think racism is, so be more specific so they can't keep mincing your words.
This is exactly why terms like "systemic racism" exist in the first place though, so there can be no confusion. In our current system, white people cannot experience systemic racism, but when talking about "interpersonal racism" which most people who aren't on the online left just call "racism," white people can definitely experience that. I think you can be reasonably more prejudiced against white people before it becomes racist, for example; choosing not to talk to a white person about something you think they might not relate to based on cultural differences or life experience, prioritizing hiring/ accepting people of color before white people, etc. But if someone is calling for or participating in violence against white people, spreading misinformation about white people, treating them as an inferior race, or even just being blindly hateful to white people in general then IT IS racism. That's why when regular and not politically or socially involved people hear someone like Hasan say you can't be racist to white people, they get turned off, because systemic racism = racism but racism =/= systemic racism. Not all rectangles are squares, but all squares are rectangles. I don't think racism against white people has as big of an effect as it does against people of color generally speaking, but that doesn't mean it isn't/ can't be a thing.
I'm a leftist and I feel this too, straight white cisgendered male here and racism is the base word which we use descriptors like "systemic" or "internalized" and such to change what the type is. The word racism itself tends to mean interpersonal racism, and there's a huge movement to try and change the definition of the word "racism" to mean "systemic racism" on it's face
@@9xDaysxTillxNothing lmao you like label yourself too much
@@erenjaeger1738 just giving anyone the information they would need to judge me accordingly. I should probably just change my picture for UA-cam but I'm a lazy mf
No dude. Its pretty reasonable to use the already defined word and not try to redefine it yourself. Why would you do that unless you want to give a specific answer and excuse it away. Racism is prejudice or discrimination against people, based on their race. Its pretty straight forward in my view. I dont see why you have to redefine it. Why does the question "need" to be specific? What are you implying here? A question can be as general as the one who asks it wants it to be.
I love the quality of these jubilee videos...
*black woman* : hi I have studied philosophy and literally taught classes about racism and bias
*white guy* : idk I am just some dude. also I used to be a cop.
How is that quality or are you being sarcastic?
@xbex Being in a college classroom is more dangerous than being a cop
@@xbfdx988 "Academic shit" is what helps people understand their real-world experience. Clown.
@@xbfdx988 just say u didnt go to collage dude n move on
That lady studying all that stuff is irrelevant to the main question of the debate because she’s not white.
Only a white persons opinion is valid when it comes to this typa question because it’s THEIR experience.
I’m a South Asian guy and I’d be so mad if a non brown person thought their opinion about Brown issues mattered more than mine.
Just food for thought
The fact that people don't understand privilege is about the lack of hurdles, not the presence of a boost and what systemic prejudice means is a problem, but thanks for doing this video, I think it really helps people who maybe don't have direct experience understand. Threw you a sub on twitch cause this is good content we need from younger influencers.
e; oh yeah, love the fact that you preach the issue of capital when it comes to policing, that's a foundational problem. you do good shit m8
I think a lot of people understand that and I also think a lot of people are at least somewhat cognizant that decades of refinement and progressive action has made sure the only privilege left is wealth privilege and prosperity gospel, even if they do have reactionary views. Not every white person is going to experience white privilege, but nearly everyone who's non-white has had to overcome barriers. That's where the idea of a white privilege comes from - nobody's poor *because* they're white, they're poor because America is designed around the accumulation of wealth.
But there is a difference between systemic racism and just plain old racism. Obfuscating the difference does no favor for anyone
@@Reticulan1
You're thinking 2 Steps ahead. We're finally getting people to understand even simple racism, blatantly smearing both together is no help, I agree... but to a degree, we need even the simple examples for some.
"But even while living life in easy mode, I still fucking failed at existing, so white racism DEFINITELY exists!" - Kyle from the internet
This observation is actually why I dislike the privilege rhetoric. The word “privilege” obfuscates the reality behind the white/nonwhite divide: the economic smothering of non-white communities. “Privilege” creates the image of a system that works “for” white people, whereas I would argue that our systems of economy, education, and justice work “against” non-white people more than they favor white people. I think if social justice advocates landed on a different term than “white privilege,” I think a lot more people would understand that it’s not about the benefits of being white, but rather the systemic pitfalls that being white alleviates.
That old white man sounds exactly like the caricature of an ignorant cop I've grown so used to seeing in American media. It's almost too good to be true.
lmao
I swear ignorant cops have like a hive mind for their bad takes, I've some of these same ones nearly word for word from my uncle.
What did he sound ignorant of
@@lilmupp875 the entire system that he serves to protect
@@VantaBay Your brain has become rotten
Prejudice vs Racism always bothered me. Nobody ever gets accused of being prejudice.. ppl get accused of being racist.
Yes. Both in that racism is often more systematic and also (I'd argue) that racism contains negativity, while prejudice can be something without negativity.
Assuming a Korean person likes kimchi or a Swedish person likes Abba is prejudice but it's not negative, so unless used to discriminate or antagonise it's not really racism.
@@BenRangel Thats called systematic racism
@@BenRangel yes thats for the most part correct. there are also the negative stereotypes like Asian people cant drive or black people eat too much fried chicken etc
Prejudice is all encompassing while racism is just race. There is no comparison.
Jimmy is literally like "If I stop 10 cars, 1 white driver and 9 of those cars just so happen to have a black driver, that doesn't make me racist cause I still pulled over that 1 out of the 10 cars."
where the hell does Jubilee finds these people it’s actually insane, dude really said Black people in America live just like anyone else in America
Poor white people and poor black people live similarly.
You'd think they were cherry picked... But then just also think what kinds of idiots you've encountered day to day in our lives lol
That man sounded wild
It's like, imagine people saying we should let go of the Holocaust just because our grandparents been through it so it never affected the systems or prejudices that exist today. If Germany was ignorant enough to follow that take they would've been a _very_ different country today.
@@Velvetx4cove the German government did the best they could to make up for The Holocaust and still there is an abundance of Neo-N*zi movements and Holocaust denial which just shows how bad racism can be even if you try to make up for it, it really shows us how bad America really is at its care
we had a day in college where only the students of color gathered in the auditorium and talked about our experiences. it was one, one hour session, where we could just vent. needless to say the white students and some profs did not take kindly to it. it was actually a response to the rising antiblack racist incidents on campus, which went viral enough to make national headlines from this small midwestern town in 2017. it amazed me that my whole life, and probably other minorities lives, were spent in majority white spaces and we all just accepted it, despite the copius amount of microaggressions and racism we faced. and yet, i had one day, just one day where i could experience what they experience all the time and it was a huge problem. i understand that in group out group tribalism is a tricky iffy thing, but if you dont experience this world and specifically, this country as a nonwhite person, you just have no idea what you're talking about. it was one of the first times in my life where i felt fully human. a sense of belonging. a sense of mutual understanding. and it wasnt even planned! it was BECAUSE of RACISM. thats why i will never believe in reverse racism. if they truly understood, there would be way more empathy and less fragility, which white people experience just by talking about racism. not even experiencing it. as if we dont live in a eurocentric society. ive had white friends who i trusted leave anti racist protests before because it was all about their feelings. ive had my adoptive white parents walk out on me when i was trying to be honest about racism in my life. it sucks to be a person of color, and in more ways than white folks realize. sidenote: dont read the comments under jubilees video. so many of them are intentionally dishonest
OMG 😳 She said the "C" word. I will never be the same again. I am traumatized. Whatever will we do now?!
Listening to this while playing fallout new Vegas. Caesars Legion is literally just conservatism at its peak
That game is truly a work of art
You can talk to Caesar about his motives and beliefs for a solid 20 minutes + and none of it sounds like filler content. He’s completely immoral but manages to make you question the NCR, which then makes you opt for Independent Vegas… but a dictatorship/anarchy is also guaranteed failure. When I first played, I thought it was no big deal and that it would be factions just like Skyrim/Oblivion. But I really wish more game companies would imitate new vegas and their dedication to the factions
based
Fallout New Vegas is unironically and unarguably the best game ever made in terms of content. technology level, my baby boy coulda been better but they made all that in 18 MONTHS
Happy birthday! Also it’s awesome to have you as an outlet for many to go to for a breakdown of a complex issue such as race, bringing these contradictions down and explaining it in an understandable way. Thanks big dawg have a good birthday
The Turks owned slaves. Lol.
Any race can be racist towards any other race, it's just that all racisms are not created equal. Anti-white racism is getting your feelings hurt (and probably not even that) over words. Other races experience racism as a huge hurdle and detriment to their entire lives due to the overwhelming power wielded against them.
So if a group of black guys jump a white guy because he’s white, did he just get his feelings hurt even though he’s face down on the pavement unconscious bleeding out of his ears with a broken jaw?
It could also be like the 2017 Chicago hate crime torture incident, not just feelings hurt.
@G R idk im on the left and have never seen anyone saying what you're saying lol
@G R one person doesn't know about every single instance of white racism; therefore the entire left is stupid. Solid logic there logic loving man... Instead of calling someone stupid how about you provide them a source for your claim to allow them to learn something new with which they can nuance their opinion?
Edit: Nevermind I've seen your other comments under this video, playing gotcha games on points people aren't making. Grow up.
@G R Dude f off. That was literally committed against a mentally handicapped person. You're comparing getting gunned down by four cops with 80 bullets until the coroner can't find cause of death because your blood is more lead than iron to four black guys kidnapping a mentally handicapped person and cutting them up a little whilst saying 'fuck white people'. Racism towards white people is so ineffectual that it can only cause superficial injury in the worst possible case scenario, compared to being brutally murdered anytime you interact with cops, who are EVERYWHERE and can decide to attack you literally ANY TIME THEY WANT with NO CONSEQUENCES. That's why anti-white racism is a joke.
If I was in this jubilee video, when Jimmy said "I can justify many of the things that happened, but I cannot justify nine minutes on his neck or back", I would straight up tell Jubilee "I do not feel safe being in the same room as this man" even though I'm not black
Same. My gf and I were listening to this on the way to work this morning and when we heard that we lost it.
talking about how he justifies derek wait till he finds out how the rest of the minneapolis police treats somali people and black americans in those cities kekw
i mean, isnt arresting someone for counterfeit bills quite justified? after that everything was done very wrongly though
@@iii-ww1kt
A.) He didn't actually pay with a counterfeit bill
B.) A $20 counterfeit bill is not worth being arrested over
@@iii-ww1kt I would say no, a single report of a supposedly counterfeit $20 is not adequate justification for an arrest. An arrest is a potentially deadly encounter when you're dealing with US police.
Balkans countries have many issues but education is definitely not one of them. I had the exact same reaction as Hasan, because of where we grew up and what we were taught in detail. It's surreal to think it's any different in the states, where it should be taught better than anywhere else
As someone from the balkans you shouldnt listen to Hasan since his lack of history shows a lot of time. Dont forget that he is a turk that enslaved us but never mentions that. And he claims to be "white"
America needs to follow Germany's example. They don't pretend the Holocaust didn't happen or wasn't that bad. They teach it extensively in their schools and their kids don't feel bad for being the descendants of the people who committed those atrocities. They just learn from it.
In America, we committed an astonishing number of genocides and we continue to deny that they happened or downplay them.
@@froglifes6829 1st of all, his history knowledge is better than the average person, as someone who actually has studied history for a while now i can tell you for certain that he's got good information, and the information he lacks he educates himself on quite quickly.
2nd of all, him being turkish and me being a serb is completely irrelevant since we are both leftists and not nationalists like you. (the turkish government should be held accountable for not admitting to atrocities the ottoman did and turkey is currently doing, and that has nothing to do with hasan or any one individual.)
3rd of all, his skin is white, so through the american lens of race, he is white. race doesn't translate the same to europe, and though i'm as pale as you can be, there are many western europeans who don't even consider me the same race as them. you would know that if you'd actually listened to hasan talk about it (he's done it numerous times)
4th of all, ya mama stank
@@2fab4dis Hi! I'm a history major but still very ignorant on Serbian/Yugoslav history, and I have not read or heard anything from the point of view of a leftist like yourself.
I've been curious about something for a while regarding Serb views on Kosovo and the US military presence (I have a family member stationed there).
Would you mind giving your opinion as a leftist Serb on the situation with Kosovo/US intervention as well as the general Serb populations opinion on the subjects?
I know this is entirely off-topic but I've been a bit hype-fixated on this lately.
Thanks!
@@CrumbledCheese I'd love to, but it's just such a complex topic with so much to say that trying to fit it all in a youtube comment simply wouldn't do it justice! I wouldn't mind having a conversation about it with anyone who wants to learn more, so if you want to you can contact me and we'll chat x
One thing that really stuck out to me, was Joshua. I experienced the "not black enough" thing, and I experienced racism. But what I found, was that when I was in predominantly black neighborhoods, or hanging out with large groups of other black people, there were many more people who acted like me. Who like the things I liked. I was no longer in a bubble. I think a lot of black people put themselves in a stereotype bubble out of years of racism and pain, and then become bitter when others don't. I would say that Joshua's experience is an interesting look into one of the lesser known effects of racism, and how it has affected black people on the whole.
The amount of sanitization historical figures get through the education system is astounding. Unless, of course, the person was on the wrong side of history, then every little nasty detail will be on the test. The saying "separate the art from the artist" may apply in some cases as to not completely devalue their achievements, but if someone also was a rapist pedophile cannibal, that's kinda relevant info to put in their bio too so people get that they weren't saints worthy of unilateral praise. You could better the world and still be a small scale piece of shit
I mostly agree with your take but I generally don't see much use in trying to label historical figures with 'good' or 'bad'. Like people are very complicated and certain circumstances lead to certain beliefs so it can be difficult to objectively judge someone's character. I think people shouldn't look to history for heroes or for villains but use history to understand the current situation and try to improve it.
I was having a conversation in youtube's chat with a person of colour, about interactions between the police and people of colour. He said "Some people never learn" about one of he scenes in the video. It occurred to me that as a white male, I've never had to learn, I ALWAYS get the the benefit of the doubt. Always. It was quite the eye opener.
i say yes you can. however, its no where near as strong or systemic induced as how you can be racist to the actual minorities
@G R I mean I'm leftists as well but ya know due to the actual definition of racism, it could apply to white ppl being discriminated against BUT it's more uncommon
Why do you all keep mentioning systemic racism as if that had anything to do with the original question? Which was simply can people be racist? You're taking a huge leap to changing the question.
@@Metal6Sex6Pot6 he just said you can experience racism
@@Metal6Sex6Pot6 because people will be in the replies saying “but systemic racism” as if it wasn’t a known fact.
i went to a bunch of different elementary schools so sometimes i was taught about slavery and sometimes i wasn’t. the times i *did* learn about it was extremely sugarcoated. it was always “they owned slaves *but* they felt bad :(“, i was never taught any of that until i was in 8th grade. even then it was too late because i had researched it well on my own.
Happy Birthday Hasan! I'm glad you're still here doing you, I wish you the best for the future! I hope to keep learning from you
Andrew Tate is better than this clown, my content is better
@@Shan-il5pc How it must feel to have no friends in middle school
Hasan is insane.
If you are learning from this clown then I feel sorry for you
@@Shan-il5pc andrew tate is beta dont listen to him
Okay so listen to everything I say please … to say that there isn’t a certain implication of anger in our society put on white people by any group that has either been persecuted by , suffered under colonial rule, or even slavery. That anger justified or not is still there, but it isn’t critical to a white persons development or pursuit of success. Compared to the opposite, prejudices and racism directly affects anyone considered to be a minority significantly more.
@G R The Turks were/are the oppressors just like white Americans, how does that make it ironic? He's saying the prejudice of the minority groups against their oppressors is NOT the same as the systemic harm done to them. Completely missed the point
@@Turambar_499 he’s saying it’s ironic because Turkish populations have often been victim to discrimination while subsequently discriminating other populations themselves. Aka surely he’d know that being in a position of power is no guarantee
@@Turambar_499 Turks made europeans slaves. Btw black people had irish slaves fort a short time. Something hasan bots dont know because they live in a bubble.
You’re absolutely correct
Happy birthday Hasan! 💜🎉 Thank u for being you and using your platform for good things! :)
Andrew Tate is better than this clown, my content is better
@@Shan-il5pc 🤡🤡🤡
yes celebrating the deaths of people you disagree with politically is so positive and nice lol
@@bogosbinted1 he said the government u spedcan
@@bogosbinted1 "people you disagree with politically" How many people do you think disagree with fascists politically? They are and have always been and *will* always be much more than "people to be disagreed with politically". Such a liberal...
bro, put a trigger warning up before having someone say the c-word. That is offensive to all saltinX peoples
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As a white American who lived a significant amount of time in a non-white country and experienced prejudices from the people there, I would not say that that experience was racism. I think people bend over backwards to try to come up with a situation in which people COULD BE racist toward a white person, and this is one that crops up often. But people also forget; history, context, and cultural norms matter. Racism in other places is not the same as racism in the US.
@G R I didn’t even give an example of the type of prejudices I experienced, but go on. I was not denied a job based on my race, I was not profiled by police as a threat more often. I had a few people assume that as an American woman, I was hyper sexual and would have sex with anyone. It was nothing to do with my skin color and more to do with bad stereotypes from movies and TV shows. There were also not “bad” assumptions, but wrongful ones, and there was a hell of a lot of colorism. But it doesn’t compare one bit. It is apples and oranges. Did it get tiresome being stared at? Yep. But I was never treated like a second class citizen, more of a curiosity.
There are different definitons of racism but practically speaking the most common one is judging an individual negatively purely for their background. If someone does that... whether they are black, white, asian, whatever.. that's racism. Even implying there is no racism to a specific color or only to a specific group is a form of racism.
You are just a sellout masochist.
Of course you can be treated differently based on the colour of your skin even as a white person, it just depends on where in the world you are. But that dude raised by white parents made me mad as well, but only because of his conservative takes like if something isn't affecting him it must not be an issue. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Conservatism takes individuality to the extreme.
It's pretty ironic that one of the very first things said was 'cracker', which, they said out loud. Meanwhile, I bet if I keep watching she's not going to say the other word that actually carries oppression and power due to its etymology.
The moment someone tries to "justify" the murder of Floyd I mentally tap out and you just lost me
Individual racism without systemic racism isn't just "bad words".
All types of violent crimes including murder can be committed by anyone against anyone else for any reason including racism.
yes that is classified as individual racism
Anyone of any race can be racist to anyone.
I haven’t watched the video yet but I feel like you can be racist against whites but whites can’t be opressed
In Nevada we are not taught the founding fathers had slaves. Slavery is just a quick one week lesson and its not brought up again until you reach the MLK stuff.
Its not called anti-white racism its just racism. If you think you are better then someone else simply cause they are a different skin color then you youre racist. Pretty simple. Now there is systemic racism and white people in america a t least havent had to deal with that, but normal everyday racisim is just when people are hating or looking down on others cause they think the other race is inferior to theirs.
Not sure how widespread this is, But I was definitely taught that there were presidents with slaves. I specifically remember a teacher pointing out that Abraham Lincoln had slaves but he was nice to them. They just downplay how wrong it is. Same as when they'd tell us "some slave owners were good to their slaves"
Lincoln did not own slaves at any point. Who taught you that? Couldn’t have been a teacher
Anyone can be racist. This argument gets old. But as far as these whites who think they have any comparison to the black experience got some work to do
I didn't learn that the founding fathers had slaves until I was traveling in highschool. But it was never taught to us that they did in school itself.
The problem with America and Race is that racism contextually is not taught to white people in the country, and thus people mistake terms that mean other things. For example Prejudice, we’re we basically Pre-Judge people based on limited amount of facts and things were determine base on a way people look. Can white people face prejudice? YES! Next let’s tackle Bigotry. Bigotry is text book hate based on any number of assumptions based on what someone identifies as or how they look. Can white people face hate? Of course they can. Discrimination refusing to allow to participate based on race? Absolutely, there are spaces that are not for white people, who want to participate just to participate such as minority scholarships, such as safe spaces designed for the non-white individuals to gather and process who they are and their experiences. Racism is the intersection of Prejudice, Bigotry, and Discrimination, and adds what the other 3 concepts lack individually, Power. There’s only one place in the world where white people do not have the power to overcome Prejudice, Bigotry, and discrimination with respect to black people, and that’s Africa, specifically South Africa with its large white population. The ability to control all facets of a civilization in a particular place such as lead, commerce, media, education…None of that exists here. It’s all still controlled by majority white influence. So white people may experience forms of prejudice where people assume they’re shitty because they’re white, or hate them because they’re white, and don’t want to allow them into non-white spaces because they’re white…But non-white don’t have the power to affect the lives of white people in this country in any way that makes life harder for them as a race.
But black people do try to keep out white people in situations
@@xbfdx988 No it doesn’t. That’s the point. Prejudice doesn’t mean anything tangible. Saying that Asians are smart and thus I can’t compete with them academically is prejudice, but does that necessarily impact either of us the way that it would if I were the head of some program and refused to enroll Asian students because “Asians are smart and thus I can’t compete with them academically”? Why would any academic institution do that? Unless it was in service to ensure my white enrollment. That’s the difference between it just being prejudice and it being racist.
@@xbfdx988 no it doesn’t. Prejudice does. Racism encompasses prejudice, but there are more elements to it. They’re not interchangeable terms.
@@xbfdx988 Racial prejudice is like a double negative is my point. Racism already includes prejudice. That’s what you’re missing. Prejudice doesn’t encompass racism the way that racism encompasses prejudice.
@@xbfdx988 man I feel sorry for you for having to deal with @Picture Perfect refusal to acknowledge that racism is just prejudice based on race and that systematic racism is a subset of racism.
South African Here! Hi I really appreciate you pointing out apartheid because till this day we still experience the aftermath of everything the colonists have done to our country now I'm not African I'm Asian , Indian specifically because of the "migration" to South Africa under the Europeans that happened. Our country has so many different race groups who were brought here under the guise of a bright future and so on , but what I wanted to talk about and what I find incredibly funny when you did the poll is that American's don't know their own history when it comes to slavery because we learnt that all the time in school I remember writing essays upon essays on the founding fathers owning slaves and how the repercussions still affect people, I find it insane that America is so white washed that they don't know their own history but I'm also not surprised at the same time.
Tbh is don’t know what the fuck everyone is talking about I live in an incredibly republican town in IL and I learned about all of slavery and the horrible shit that happened. Also I think your generalizing people a little too much, we all have different experiences and it’s not okay to make assumptions based on baseless stereotypes.
@@elicarlson7682 I was basing it on the people who took the poll in chat and how they didn't know but I understand it can come off as a generalization I apologize.
After started out well under Mandela... now the ANC encourages the persecution of non-blacks by blacks. They want special laws to strip non-black people of their property to hand over to blacks.. They encourage a "persecution" mentality of blacks by whites even decades after Aparteid ended (which is what was the real cause of the mass looting last year). If ANC continues to go down this road towards a mix of support for racism by blacks and soft-marxism it will inch-by-inch obliterate the South African economy just like Zimbabwe destroyed its own.
We briefly talked about the founding fathers having slaves (like years later in high school) but it was reinforced that they treated them really well. Also when we were first taught about slavery in elementary school they framed it as indentured servitude, where everyone paid for their trip across the ocean with 7 years of work, then they were free. That stuff existed but it's gross that they implied all of the slaves volunteered for it and would go free
The group of people considered "white" specifically in the US (since Americans don't consider Latinos as white, even though Latinos are European descendants) are oppressed in very rare and specific circumstances and locations, the only case I remember of systemic (but very minor) oppression against ""white"" people is gaijin concept in Japan, but it can also be classified as xenophobia since the Japanese mistreat most foreigners, except people from some countries.
You're right that being called a "cracker" is not a traumatic experience in any way. Being beaten down because you have a white skin is another matter altogether.
You can very well fight against anti-black and anti-Arab racism and support reparations for US Blacks while at the same time holding that battering someone because of his or her skin colour is always morally wrong, no matter what. Actually, this was Dr. Martin Luther King's view.
It actually genuinely seems to me like Hassan is conflating the definition of racism with the definition of systemic racism.
It’s like he doesn’t realize that racism and system racism are two different things
He does, but since he is racist against white people, he's trying to make the argument that it's okay to hate them.
That's what I see many people doing on the internet. Everytime they say that black people can't be racist , they always turn around say something that reveals their hate for white people.
he does it all the time and I don't know which is worse, him being too dumm to realize what hes doing or it being malicious.
Little bro is just farming for content, don’t take it too seriously.
There are different kinds of racism, and the systemic kind is absolutely different than "some black giy called me a cracker".
My problem, is he sees one as a legitimate problem (it is), and the other as "boo fucking hoo cry white boy cry blacks have it so much worse". They're both problems, and one (albeit smaller) problem doesn't invalidate the bigger and historical issues. It's actually a symptom, because a black person who regularly deals with systemic racism from whites and white institutions might feel justified to develop racism towards whites.
Sierra came out like she's smurfing a public lobby while also being lvl 1000, our thumb looking homie didn't get a chance.
Andrew Tate is better than this clown, my content is better
@@Shan-il5pc no one asked you, homegirl
@@Shan-il5pc what 💀
12:28 reminds me I was taught in school how amazing the founding fathers were without any discussion of the terrible things they did. As a little kid I thought they were these great godly men who fought for the rights of everyone. In fact I was legit confused by my curriculum because I didn't get how George Washington could be such a perfect human. I had always been taught that no one was perfect and yet here little 8 year old me is reading about the most perfect human being to ever step a foot upon this planet. It's so dumb-
For anyone who wants to learn more about how race isn't a biological reality and whiteness doesn't exist, here's a video giving a historical account. Mentions how inter-racial marriage between African men and British women used to be a thing during the 1600's and was socially acceptable. And how whiteness as a concept only appears when black slaves & white indentured servants started to unite and rebel against their masters. The concept of whiteness was made up explicitly to split and weaken organised labour pushing back against capital. Literally to divide and conquer
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Yeah it is literally a social construct designed to create groups, put them against eachother and suppress other groups, that has no biological basis. When you find that out, a already idiotic concept of valuing people less based on their skintone that was and still is ”supported” by eugenics, becomes even more stupid (if that is even possible). It’s literally like cutting a paper in half, putting a dot on one of them and going “look look they are less worthy than you!1! Why? Umm... They have a dot so they are like ummm biologically separate from you and should be treated like they are inferior!!!1!1!1!1!”
Now that those papers have been put against eachother for along time, with one paper thinking they’re superior, it’ll take a long time to “undo” all the hurt, but the concept that created racism has been pretty dumb from the beginning.
I probably fucked up my wording somewhere but maybe you get what I’m trying to get at
Interracial marriage was not accepted in 1600 lmao
Fake history LMAO keep lying
@@menesebastiao2468 Yeah the dude is straight lying anyone with common sense and basic history knowledge can see this is bs
The same people that created whiteness are now the same people that are saying it doesn’t exist because laws are no longer benefiting them lol
Especially pertinent to the discussion disproportionate incarceration rates of African Americans are a few things:
- People with felony records, in many states, are barred from the right to vote.
- When it's easy to charge someone with a felony, such as making possession of a drug a felony offense for example, then it's easy to strip them of their right to vote
- The highest incarceration rates per 100,000 are in the Deep South states, which are infamous for their history of Jim Crow laws
So when you see all of these things added up together: it's hard NOT to recognize that states with track records of oppressing Black Americans are continuing to live up to their track record.
In college. A black girl screamed at me and a group of people for listening to Bob Marley. Us being white was why we weren't allowed to listen to Marley. Everybody has the capacity to be racist lol. But us white guys deal with it wayyyyy less. It's a systemic issue with other races.
He was African? Like from Africa right?
its because bob marley made good music but he's been so commodified and overplayed by white people that his image association is goofy and lame
I had a black girl ask a friend to yell weird racist slave shit to her when they were fucking and she was dead serious
That’s not racism though that’s a prejudice.
@@dylanschmeichel2008 define prejudice mate
13:10 I learned that the founding fathers had slaves, but it was whitewashed as all hell. For example I was taught that George Washington owned slaves, but she stated that he treated the slaves well compared to other slave owners and that it wasn't as bad as being owned by someone else. For example, he "provided" wooden housing for them instead of whatever other materials they made the houses on. Granted the slaves undoubtedly worked on those houses.
what would that even mean??? like wouldn't they still have to work with no pay 24/7? oh gee he didn't whip them i guess so now he's a saint
yeah but i just mean in general, i've heard that same phrase a couple of times about different presidents, and im just confused what reaction they respect from me.
that founding fathers part is wild, only 19 but so many people i grew up around or got to know over time don’t even know this shit because we were never taught
With the reparation question, I agree with the black woman about that if the black community was given out lump sums of money they wouldn't be financially literate again and that it will be used against us to be like hey these black people we're giving money and I didn't make a change . The evidence is that if you are poor which black people are disproportionately that they are less finacially litterate than white people who are known to have more money. The black girl not knowing that she is spewing white supremacy like what? For me right now, I feel that Hasan takes are 20/80 for me as I watch him more and more.
A Turk must never ever voice their opinions on racism and slavery because they practiced it up until the early 20th century.
what is that take. Your ancestors were racist so you can't speak out against racism?
The “I haven’t experienced slavery, so why should I get the check” argument is so stupid. Like bro, when someone is killed in a workplace accident, the family who gets the money from that weren’t the ones getting killed, so they shouldn’t get the money? What kind of dumbass argument is that
"The white Americans ... who do feel as though there's more discrimination against white Americans than there is toward black Americans do not say that they themselves have faced that discrimination, it's just a perception of this general hate that they haven't actually seen,". So there’s a reason why the Republican Party remains one backed mostly by white voters, a good percentage of whom are older and don’t have college degrees. Meanwhile, the Democratic Party, as imperfect as it it, continues to be the party of diversity, regularly attracting Black, Latino and Asian voters.
Yet the Democratic party hasn't done an amazing job with the community now has it. And before you say I'm so dumb republican I'm not. I don't really care for either I have liberal views and conservative views. But to act like the democratic party had minorities always in there best interest is not completely true.
It doesnt remain? what make you think that? Is there any evidence behind that?
Too many people think like you and it is a huge issue. They only believe what their whims fancy.
Hispanics are voting pretty red nowadays.
@@Rich_P_Anya so what would you like white sympathy? Sorry ain’t happening over here
The cop is so horrible, so frustrating to listen to. god damn it !
I once ordered Thai food and when I asked for it extra spicy, the Thai guy behind the counter raised his eyebrow, looked me up and down and asked "you sure?"...
Anti-white racism exists and I'm sick of pretending that it doesn't!!!
lol
thats not racism tats just a funny stereotype people are talking about real racism and how blacks can be prejudice to whites its both ways a group of blacks can isolate or be violent to whites vise versa.
Racism is when me told I can no eat spicy food dur hurrrr
I’m so sorry you experienced this
nah im dying lmaooooooo
Greatly appreciate the amount of effort and care you put into explaining to and educating people in every video.
Im very confused as to How This is even up for debate? Of course any race Can experience racism, i havent so far heard any legitimate reason as to Why not. If someone who disagrees could explain How Im mistaken i’d appreciate it.
when they say racism the mean systematic racism, you are confused because you use the actual definition of racism not their definition.
@@teatusnoone6332 exactly it gives them carte Blanche to be shitty people and no one can say anything. If you treat anyone different because of their color you’re a pos I don’t care what terms are used. Justifying it because of a shitty government system doesn’t make you any better
You’re confused because people are making shit up to better fit their own narratives. Anyone can be racist to any other race, you have it right.
Watch the video and they explain what definition of racism they're arguing.
@@teatusnoone6332 i find that so annoying, just say systemic racism and the big debate is gone i feel like.
I grew up in a very rural area with troopers who lived everywhere in our town. When we were young teens going to parties that got busted they always made sure everyone got out safe and that was their priority but when we got to be seniors in high schools they told us that after we graduated we gotta be safer because they knew how fucked the system was and didn’t wanna see one of us end up in headlines from a wrong place wrong time. I will always remember them for that
Yes but not systemically
Perfect answer in 4 words
THIS
yes and systemically heard of affirmative action that's literarily a system
@@biggooba6706 u seem to think ppl get the job just bc of their race and not their skills, the whole point of affirmative action is to get the best even if it's a race that isn't white
The answer is just yes. Just not in most American systems.
Jimmy: no I never wanted to be anything other than a white man but I never thought about it before
Also Jimmy: well you know maybe you wished you were white because it's like wanting something you've never had before
Me: 👀 ... Why do you think that, Jimmy? And why do you think you never wanted to be anything other than a white man?
This conversation is just semantics. The common definition of racism doesn't say anything about systemic power.
So to answer the question, yes, anti-white racism exists. Is there anti-white SYSTEMIC racism? No.
Best answer on this thread. I've been called all sorts of names as a white guy by other races, but that didn't systemically affect me the way as it has for my poc friends, who've had racist labels thrown at them. Racism exists in all forms, but its power structure in how it affects different races (in different countries) is dissimilar.
@@RunningEagle2011 Thanks mate. I have an experience, as a slavic immigrant in Canada. There was a study conducted here that showed how "non-white" (aka not french or english) names have a better success rate on resumés for job applications. I think I have definitely been affected by that, but I also recognize that untill someone sees my name I am percieved as a normal white person, my poc friends can't say the same.
Racism has different layers and can affect anyone, but I wouldn't say I have experienced systemic racism as black or first nations people here.
When I lived in Portugal I quickly learned that American racism is specific to the US.
N word is still colloquially used by locals of all colors as a descriptor and nobody bats an eye. I was told that being an American is the equivalent to being brown over there and I should try to blend in more or get my ass beat. This is a tiny anecdotal personal example but it goes to show how different attitudes can be.
Yeah because american society is not european society. go to the balkans you will get called nigga not out of hate but out of love
Portugal and other European countries are way more racist than America, I mean get out of the “big cities” and you will realize that the average white Portuguese hates blacks, Jews, Brazilians, Muslims, gypsies etc... The only difference between European racism and American racism is that Europeans are openly about it, don’t believe me? Then if you’re black travel to the countryside or smaller cities, people will tell you to go back to Africa while making fun of your skin color.
@@afonsosousa1986 I guess you have only been in American cities because that is laughably backwards. I have only lived in American small towns, and cities in Kentucky that are STILL SEGREGATED TO THIS DAY. It is way way way more racist than Portugal, 1,000x more racist, not even comparable. The populations in small American towns are entirely white in the northeast here and if there are other races, that would be news to me. Go to a cookout and they will be talking (VERY OPENLY, might I add) about the N-words in the city and how they are coming to murder and rob and rape us all. Not very racist tho I'm so sure lol.
I was in Portugal for the full duration of my VISA. I made use of the rail pass to see a lot of that country and truly explored the populations, and guess what- not a whole lot of snow white aryans there city or not. It is the most integrated population I have ever come across. So these white European racists you speak of are simply not in Portugal almost at all.
Final thought- you want me to believe Portuguese hate Brazillians and Africans and Gypsies... that is false. The only negative sentiment I got about ANY group of people was about how racist and gun crazed Americans are. The populations there are overall not white and they are overall not racist. Not even comparable to the most basic racism you get in the US.
I'm not saying it is not a problem, I am simply trying to wake you up to the fact that America is indeed the most racist country on earth. You really need to get out of the cities and see. It is shocking and growing ever closer to something really bad.
I love the cops argument as to why community policing fails …. As if police don’t cover for their own CONSTANTLY already.
i just tapped out at 36 seconds. i can't take the cringe
Nick! This is truly painful to watch
can you be racist towards white people? (using the common definition of racism)
Everyone knows that Ritz and saltines are the most oppressed
racism isn't just what happened in the past or systematic racism. if you hate someone because of their race or a whole race then you are racist, it's that simple, if you physically or verbally abuse someone because of their race then you are being racist. this applies to all races.
i think an issue is that certain people started saying that racism is only when it is targeted against a minority in a systematic way or there is a historical background to it, which is like no, that's also racism but that's not the whole thing, you can't just go changing the meaning of a word whenever you want to because it just makes you look like a halfbacked crackhead.
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You’re on the pseudosociological side of the internet where racism only means systemic racism. If Hasan said this in a classroom he’d get laughed at because it’s stupid. The definition of racism says nothing about power Lmao the left is just braindead at this point.
You should go back and watch the part of the video where the woman broke down the origins of the concept of race dating back to the 1500's, it's almost like you didn't watch the video at all
@@YetiCoolBrother My friend, you do realise that this is how normal people see racism right? If you cannot accept that racism can be aimed at a person any race by another person of any other race then you are what is known as lost in the sauce.
But lets see it from your point of view, what do you call someone who hates an entire group of people based on their "race" or skin color?
@@lup7271 ...did you watch the part of the video I was talking about? If so you already know the answer. Or do you want to continue arguing with the strawman?
That girl tried to sound so sad when she said, "I've been called cracker before." If being called a biscuit is the most racist thing you can think of you're truly privileged.
I thought it was related to the drug lol
Well no
@@dang0s804 😂
@G R Yeah, being called biscuit makes me feel real degraded. Stop your oppression fetishism.
@G R That's a lot of words for being a plain old reactionary. It's okay. We're not gonna stop you if you want to campaign for a white history month or straight pride, we're perfectly happy just ridiculing you. Hope you feel better.
I think apathetic moderate/apolitical white ppl feel lectured and resent it because they feel like they personally haven't done anything wrong. Even though from a left leaning perspective they are bystanders , enablers and benefit from not having to deal with marginalisation and discrimination. They also often have benefits from inheritance. I feel like I have been on 2 sides of the fence on a similar issue. I'm a white guy and I have a disability. I have felt the resentment towards bystanders that have done nothing to help me when I'm being discriminated against. I also think that ppl sometimes mock/disregard my issues with being disabled because I'm a white guy. Both of these sides cause resentment of different types and towards different ppl. Ppl can disregard such concerns but there are social/cultural consequences for doing so.
I think this is part of the problem. A lot of the messaging around all this stuff makes it seem like white people who weren’t alive during slavery and aren’t racist are being talked down to in every facet of their life. All they know is they weren’t around. So while yes all the shit from the past happened and the system is fucked because of biases 100s of years old treating current day white people like this is only going to cause resentment and we’re seeing it in real time with the trump shit
It's sad, but yeah, I didn't learn that the founders had slaves from school, I learned about it when I was high-school aged, but they didn't teach it as a part of the curriculum
Happy Birthday Hasan!
11:07 I just wanted to add that even if people say “it’s their culture” that does seem kinda racist in of itself
I think Americans don’t understand that there are words that describe different experiences. A white person experiencing oppression in South Korea for example isn’t racism but xenophobia, still awful still bad but not racism.
Because the system isn’t stopped them for getting jobs buying houses and thriving but the peoples who have a fear of foreigners might make it dangerous for them to live there and therefore that’s why it’s xenophobia.
very interesting and informative discussion.
Hasan’s POV runs contrary to mine, for once. Racism as I understand it and have experienced it is not just noticing the difference between people, but- using these superficial differences to derive a sense of superiority over the other, making a negative condescending value judgement from it, which is ignorant and wrong. It prevents people from judging others on a case by case basis, without prejudice, as individuals.
The whole “there’s no such thing as racism unless it’s systemic” is BS as far as I’m concerned. I was the white minority in a brown country and a black country as a child, and I can say I experienced racism in those circumstances and others.
SYSTEMIC racism is another level of racism far more abhorrent than what I experienced, and I’m not trying to conflate my experience with that of black Americans, but it is disingenuous and wrong to pretend that racism doesn’t exist (and is harmful) unless it’s systemic. Also harmful and wrong to suggest that racism against white people doesn’t exist in the world just because in general racism against black people in America is far worse. I’ve been binging Hasan for hrs now and this is the first time his viewpoint differs from mine, but not a lot of people have had my experience so it’s understandable.
The sports car with small windows is the same excuse campus PD had for pulling over a black kid on campus at my college years ago. They literally try to find excuses just to pull over and intimidate POC in general.
so cops shouldnt stop people from speeding, just because theyre black? 🤣
@@iii-ww1kt when the fuck did I say he was speeding?
There’s speed bumps like every 100 feet at my college, not even possible.
Nice job exposing yourself though, brother. 👍
@@TheHockeyjock10 you said "the same excuse", meanwhile the reason in the video was NOT that the cop couldnt see the driver, it was because he was doing 95 in a 55
I love how Jimmy the white cop talks more than anyone else in this video by far.
I haven't watch all of the video yet but I do know that the concept of racism applied to white people is something a lot of people seemed to be misinformed about to I'll just explain real quick. So the first prompt asked by Jubilee is, "Do white people also experience racism?" I'll say that they do not "experience" it per say, but that does not mean it doesn't exist. I don't buy the argument presented by Hasan and other members of the video that racism is always tied to power and economics because if everyone was equal in their material conditions that does not necessarily mean racism and all of its negative consequences would disappear.
I know Hasan mainly speaks from the American perspective so I will address that first. Racism against white people in American still exists (black supremacists do and have existed) but the difference is that in America being racists towards a white person (which I am not trying to imply is common by any means) has no consequences. So, while there is obviously no moral value to being prejudice against white people in America it has no influence on outcomes for white people. Therefore, it is not really worth talking about because it will only serve to undermine the issues of race that are much much more significant for nonwhite or white passing people in the US. Just because it is possible anti-white racism "exists" in fringe cases does not make it worth talking about currently because it is not systemic.
More broadly though, anti-white racism definitely exists outside of prominently white countries. For example, if you are a white person in Japan you will be discriminated against. Coincidently, this will happen if you are anything but Japanese but that includes white people.
The only reason why I knew the founding fathers had slaves was that I had a black history teacher that made it CLEAR that the founding fathers had slaves and that Christopher Columbus didn't discover shit.
Of coarse it is. What a silly question. Racism is racism. Doesn't matter who's doing it or who it's being done to.
Yes it's real. Next.
The old racist former cop is Walmart version of Dennis Prager
Yeah Hasan, nobody taught us that the founding fathers had slaves in school. A lot of things happened that American school never teaches
I cringe when dude said you're driving a sports car with tinted windows, I also cringed when she asserted racism essentially didn't exist before European slavery of Africans
My pregnant, white looking, native American wife lost her job making over $50/an hour because a black coworker lied and said my wife called her the N word 😑 just because she was in a bad mood about patient assignments. Soo ya maybe not racist but definitely a shitty person told a lie that you shouldn't tell.
Regardless of If she wasn’t white that shouldn’t be coming out if her mouth but also most jobs especially a high paying one wouldn’t fire someone from one incident especially off of the word of one incident. Because it would open the up for legal liability especially if they didn’t investigate it.So if she was fired with out just cause sue
@@josuebaxxie1 it didn't come out her mouth the other nurse lied and said it did she also went and lied to the whole hospital about what happened and got a whole group of people whipped up trying to find her. My wife had to moved between 3 floors of the hospital by security because people were coming after her. The ceo of the hospital showed up at 3 am to calm the situation no she wasn't exactly fired but he firmly suggested she leave and was even willing to pay out the rest of her contract. In other words they forced her to take the pay out and after seeking legal advice they said it wasn't worth it. Something about the colors needing to be reversed was the lawyers words not mine.
So a liar who weaponized the most offensive word in English against a pregnant women so she could take her patient group is cool with you?? That's the equality we strive for?
Hasan wtf are you talking about? Literally no one Is talking about who's faced oppression, or systemic racism.
They are talking about the ability to be racist against white people. Which people definitely are, and you encouraging that kind of racism is really disappointing. You lost a long time fan today.
Shut up lol
White supremacy takes out the nuances and context in some black people. Being black myself, i never use to care about my skin color or what somebody thought of me until I travelled out of my home country of Ghana and then I realized that there is a whole world of view and perception that makes me very self aware and quite honestly distrustful of my own self. Perhaps the most strange of this realization is the way other black people speak of their own communities, while they think that they are being unapologetic and truthful about their own people, they are also quite literally very effectively gassing up WS narrative.
I feel sorry for the black guy in the video, he was never going to learn the intricacies of his people. The context and nuances that all black people should know. I don’t agree with a lot of reparation models, but I find quite disturbing that some black can just not see the significance of the conversation surrounding it.
Konkomba-Nanumba conflict
@@froglifes6829 what about it?
@@2three362 research what happened
My husband and I are disabled, autistic Caucasian people who were abandoned by our families so we live in extreme poverty only being able to sell our plasma to not completely starve. Living in severe mental and physical pain with no way to get healthcare. In one of the few jobs my husband was able to get to help us through until he couldn't work anymore, there was a majority of people of color that tried to hurt him at every turn and liked to say he was privileged and not deserving of empathy guess what? We still fought the urge to hate ALL people of color. we were lucky enough (with all of our brainwashing) to be able to grasp that even though we might die like this and it's terrible and not okay, we still have a weird privilege over people with darker skin. We know to direct our rage at capitalism. Everyone who is in the same boat and thinks people of color are somehow ruling this country and making white people oppressed on a large scale is not true. Pleased understand this!!!
It’s real in the way that some people hate white people just because of their race. But the consequences of that hatred are far less severe and I’d also argue that it’s less common to be racist against white people since being white is a norm in many countries (like how white people are generally treated somewhat better in Japan and South Korea than for example black people)
I'm shocked that other people didn't learn that the founding fathers had slaves. That was gone over extensively in my APUSH class but I also had a somewhat leftist teacher so idk