Wow, Thundercat is a freaking genius, his lines are ridiculously creative and original. And he does it while singing!! Oh, and his bass is freaking awesome! I would love to have one, but they are way too spendy for me. Ibanez BTB 6 string is as close as I'll get
@@lolololollo5377 I really wish they would do an Indonesian Artcore series one. It's the same way I feel about Fender's Jaco model fretless Jazz. Having built a Jazz bass, there was no way I was going to pay that much.... then Squier cane out with the Vintage Modifies fretless Jazz- it's essentially the same bass without the Jaco name. And I got mine used for $250.
I hear three basses, the envelope filter to the left with the octaves, the clean chordal bass towards the middle, and another low envelope filter bass to the right that is just playing root notes.
Thanx for all the work . The break downs ,tabs and just being nice cool people. Ohh by the way . I learned that's my passport photo on bass.. so f ING awesome. Now thats a bass line aswell
I just got my first bass, about 4 days ago. I learned how to play this song in 2 days, on a 4 string (I have 3.5 years experience in guitar.) Still, this is so difficult to master...
Personally, I would like to watch an episode about Jesse Caron (bassist from men I trust). His bass parts aren't as complex as Thundercats, but damn, some of them are so beautiful! "Lauren" or "show me how", whatever!
I think it really is 3 bass tracks, clean down the middle and 2 enveloped left and right, the left bass is playing the more complex part while the right is playing very basic on the beat.
I don’t really like the song/the Bass line. I don’t know if i‘m alone with that, but i think there is to much „overthinking“ in it or…i don’t know how to explain. But i‘m happy That there are so many people here who are happy with it and love it
Love the song and the bassline but there’s too many effects going on for me to consider it the best. I much prefer a growly bassline that you feel in your chest
Remember to use lowpass filter on the envelope filter! Bandpass filter sucks all the low end. And Thundercat uses the Moog Lowpass MF-101, not the pigtronix!
I have the MXR envelope seem to have not as clean note definition on the roots of the chords. Still sounds close but I have to dig on the E and A string as opposed to lightly plucking the D and G. Any tips ?
@@nunezgabriel98 Well MXR envelope has a bandpass filter, not a lowpass. This means that it cuts some of the lows during the envelope cycle. You could get more clarity by adding some more of the dry signal by adjusting the "dry" and "fx" knobs. Also try using a compressor with strong settings before the envelope so it will be more consistent across different strings.
Crazily, I've learned so much about the 5 and 6 string bass over the last couple of weeks. Before I didn't even know you could get such a melodious higher tone sound out of a bass all together. I love Thundercat and didn't appreciate the 2 blended bass lines until this video. Many thanks. I'm definitely a subscriber to your channel now. I'm learning so much. Next step get a bass and start learning......
it is so great to see how collaborative and friendly they work together, how they inspire each other, the eye contact, the space they leave for each other, and the fun and even the mistakes they leave in the videos ( remember: living beeings ! ) its heartwarming, inspiring, and they are rolemodels. ( pardon my engl. ) Yours NB / vienna
So after listening to the original track again and then the isolated parts you showed, I am pretty sure it is in essence two parts, but there are three passes: the main chord part in the center, and then two passes of the lower Moog-y octave part panned to the right and left, playing the same part but with different fills and accents. Such a remarkable track. One of my favorites of the ‘10s. Great breakdown and fantastic playing!
This song is THE reason I own a 5-string bass instead of 4 as a guitar player. Though as it turns out, having 5 strings makes those chords _possible_ but not quite _convenient_ lol (you're up above the 12th fret on the low B, a little rough)
The thing about "dropping the sus" in the Ebsus, that happens in both the original and live, but in particular _after the middle section_ as a short of change in character, like in the beginning you're stuck on the sus more and towards the end you're feeling more "movement" by letting the dominant chord do its thing
Speaking of sampling the Isley Brothers, the Hypnotize (Biggie track) bassline has always been one of my favs. Lost My Treble Long Ago by Vulfpeck is another funky fav.
PRINCE - ALPHABET STREET! Please please do a deep dive into this. One of the FUNKIEST slap bass lines there is, played by the man himself :) PS GREAT VID. That fill by thunder cat in the live version is sick.
When I hear F711 my instinct is that the third would be in the chord. F7SUS I wouldn't assume there is a 3rd especially since its not resolving up a 4th (Shouldn't contain a leading tone).
Those chords would be much easier on one of my many non-bass guitars. Are there any players that string their 6- or 7-strings like a guitar, i.e. with top two strings tuned Be instead of Cf?
Thundercats makes such delicious Bass lines. Some other sweet Bass lines he did were on Kimbras album too!! Also Ian always whips out the coolest basses❤❤❤❤
Brilliant! Not only do you do a good demo but also show how it on 4 strings for us string challenged folk. Then you provide a pdf and tips on the effects! Quality product- you set a good example. If it wasn't being a member of SBL already I would feel guilty for not paying for this. It's given me many ideas. As for suggestions: Stanley Clarke's School Days and others from the "I Wanna Play for You" album. You two could do a good duet with "Jamaican Boy".
It's definitely three. But basically the bass bass, that's doing the simple line is doubled. So you've got two takes, one panned left, one panned right, and then the chords down the center.
CHECK OUT THE ALBUM "WHERE THE GIANTS ROAM" BY THUNDERCAT TIS the album that made me buy a bass, I didn't even know what a bass guitar was until then...so yeah greatest album ever in my opinion
I imagine that if I wanted to cop this bassline on my Squier Bass Six, it would at least come close. It’s tuned differently than the ones you guys are playing it on, but I still would bet (if I gambled) that it could work. (I would also try for the vocal, considering I pride myself on singing and thumping at the same time.) Not that I actually want you guys to do this one, but I’m gonna shout it out anyway. How about “The Sinister Minister”?
bass vi will always just be a baritone guitar to me (not sure of the differences, maybe you can elaborate?) , although I so want one to practice bass chords a little easier...also, I guess with the right pedal/amp setup you could make a bass vi or baritone sound like a bass...
Unrelated. I'm a newbie. I find myself using my thumb and index finger together as if holding a pick and using the nail on my index finger in place of a pick. I like it on Joy Division, the Cure, etc. Is this a thing, or is this a bad habit to avoid? It works like a pick, but fatter and more Bassey? Lol
Love the video. I am more of a guitar player who likes to pick up the bass whenever I can, just wondering why the guy on the left is wearing a glove on his one hand?
2:41 Right after "we thought it could have been three" it sounds like there's a fill on the left track that the right isn't following. Sounds to me like there's 2 filtered tracks panned left and right with the centre playing the chords.
it is 3 bass tracks - you can hear he double tracked the octave part (panned hard left and right) and theyre not the same performance - the right track is simpler and the left track does the fills
What if you have a pedal with stereo outs? Put one out to a clean amp and the the other through the effects chain to another amp. I’ve tried that a bit and it is so full sounding.
When Ian and Scott do the Fusion Dance, they turn into Thundercat.
the ultimate warrior
With the dragon ball durag
Ian and Scott fused would just look like Dane dehaan
Nah, they will turn into Scott Ian from anthrax
The jazz fusion dance
Wow, Thundercat is a freaking genius, his lines are ridiculously creative and original. And he does it while singing!!
Oh, and his bass is freaking awesome! I would love to have one, but they are way too spendy for me. Ibanez BTB 6 string is as close as I'll get
True!! I was all hyped one Christmas to get me one those things and cried when I saw that $10k tag, WITHOUT his custom ad-ons even....
@@lolololollo5377 I really wish they would do an Indonesian Artcore series one. It's the same way I feel about Fender's Jaco model fretless Jazz. Having built a Jazz bass, there was no way I was going to pay that much.... then Squier cane out with the Vintage Modifies fretless Jazz- it's essentially the same bass without the Jaco name. And I got mine used for $250.
I hear three basses, the envelope filter to the left with the octaves, the clean chordal bass towards the middle, and another low envelope filter bass to the right that is just playing root notes.
yeah surprised they didn’t notice the left and right channels are different
If you have never had the pleasure of seeing this man and his trio live, PLEASE treat yourself and do so on this tour of his. Thyer are HOT
Thanx for all the work . The break downs ,tabs and just being nice cool people. Ohh by the way . I learned that's my passport photo on bass.. so f ING awesome. Now thats a bass line aswell
🙌🏻🧡🔥
Saw him play live this year, was so sick!
You two need to do some live shows together.
Long before the Ibanez hollowbody, he used to hire another bassist to play with what would become his trio.
you could see/hear it better live. The keyboard is usually playing it. Domi playing it is amazing.
I just got my first bass, about 4 days ago.
I learned how to play this song in 2 days, on a 4 string (I have 3.5 years experience in guitar.)
Still, this is so difficult to master...
I don't have a six-string but I'm gonna see if I can get this sound with a guitar thru the bass setting on a modeler! Fun!
Awesome Amanda, Enjoy!
Thank you for this!
Real sample bass lines. Easy!
🧡🧡🧡
IAN ON THE BAHNAHNAH BASS!!!!
Personally, I would like to watch an episode about Jesse Caron (bassist from men I trust). His bass parts aren't as complex as Thundercats, but damn, some of them are so beautiful! "Lauren" or "show me how", whatever!
Woah, just checked out their NPR set, they're freakin' awesome! Thanks for the recommendation!
I think it really is 3 bass tracks, clean down the middle and 2 enveloped left and right, the left bass is playing the more complex part while the right is playing very basic on the beat.
Uzeb Club by UZEB!!! 🤙🎸 it's so nice and funky
Roll on and on.
listen to marinko rokvic - potrazicu oci nesto zelenije
banger bass line there, maybe the best ever
Layering is going on.
❤
Hey Scott and Ian, I always knew this song had 2 bass parts as I always felt like there was a lot going on in this song. ✌️😙
What’s with the glove?
Far, far beyond anything these short fingers could contemplate playing.
Almost pole
I don’t really like the song/the Bass line.
I don’t know if i‘m alone with that, but i think there is to much „overthinking“ in it or…i don’t know how to explain.
But i‘m happy That there are so many people here who are happy with it and love it
Love the song and the bassline but there’s too many effects going on for me to consider it the best. I much prefer a growly bassline that you feel in your chest
Different strokes for different folks I guess dude! Thanks for sharing your opinion! 🙌🏻🙌🏻
@@devinebass ❤️ keep up the awesome vids :)
Remember to use lowpass filter on the envelope filter! Bandpass filter sucks all the low end. And Thundercat uses the Moog Lowpass MF-101, not the pigtronix!
synths with ringmod and a preamp could probably do it too with some accuracy, I've been thinking about trying on my 2600 clone
I have the MXR envelope seem to have not as clean note definition on the roots of the chords. Still sounds close but I have to dig on the E and A string as opposed to lightly plucking the D and G. Any tips ?
@@nunezgabriel98 Well MXR envelope has a bandpass filter, not a lowpass. This means that it cuts some of the lows during the envelope cycle. You could get more clarity by adding some more of the dry signal by adjusting the "dry" and "fx" knobs. Also try using a compressor with strong settings before the envelope so it will be more consistent across different strings.
@@teadat thanks dude ! The insight is appreciated
Thanks for all the examples guys
Bro, the mixer of this guys is a god...I can hear absolutely every single note, damn
Sounds incredible 🤘🏼🔥
Unbelievable! Scott actually dropped the glove on this left hand for this video - does this song have hidden healing powers?😂
He wore through the fingers at least one of his gloves. Or maybe their in the wash cause of all this Funk😉
Crazily, I've learned so much about the 5 and 6 string bass over the last couple of weeks. Before I didn't even know you could get such a melodious higher tone sound out of a bass all together. I love Thundercat and didn't appreciate the 2 blended bass lines until this video. Many thanks. I'm definitely a subscriber to your channel now. I'm learning so much. Next step get a bass and start learning......
🧡🧡🧡
I can finally play one of my favorite bass lines on a 4 string, you guys are the best!
Timeless tune and very funky.
0:36 it actually first dropped in 2015 on his EP ‘The Beyond/Where the Giants Roam’
This song changed my mind on so many levels
I love these scott and Ian collabs. So fun!!!
it's the best!
it is so great to see how collaborative and friendly they work together, how they inspire each other, the eye contact, the space they leave for each other, and the fun and even the mistakes they leave in the videos ( remember: living beeings ! ) its heartwarming, inspiring, and they are rolemodels. ( pardon my engl. ) Yours NB / vienna
So after listening to the original track again and then the isolated parts you showed, I am pretty sure it is in essence two parts, but there are three passes: the main chord part in the center, and then two passes of the lower Moog-y octave part panned to the right and left, playing the same part but with different fills and accents.
Such a remarkable track. One of my favorites of the ‘10s. Great breakdown and fantastic playing!
This is exactly why I love Thundercat. I love over dubbing basslines in my solo work.
Definitely has a Chaka Khan vibe! You guys are great! Love how you are figuring out the chords on the fly...
This song is THE reason I own a 5-string bass instead of 4 as a guitar player. Though as it turns out, having 5 strings makes those chords _possible_ but not quite _convenient_ lol (you're up above the 12th fret on the low B, a little rough)
The thing about "dropping the sus" in the Ebsus, that happens in both the original and live, but in particular _after the middle section_ as a short of change in character, like in the beginning you're stuck on the sus more and towards the end you're feeling more "movement" by letting the dominant chord do its thing
That is so cool, I can't get over how well-made this song is
Speaking of sampling the Isley Brothers, the Hypnotize (Biggie track) bassline has always been one of my favs. Lost My Treble Long Ago by Vulfpeck is another funky fav.
Was thundercat born with a bass in his hand!!! He needs a documentary and I wanna watch….his speed is incredible
He's not human...lol!
2:34 It is 3. You can hear the low bass part is 2 lines panned left and right with the chords down the middle
Awesome, when they play it live Dennis Hamm always plays those low notes on keyboard while Thundercat plays the arpeggios/chords
Love this so much guys. Love your knowledge and enthusiasm!!
Big up Simon! Thanks for checking out the video!
Both of your shoe game on point 🤘🏻
Some great bass faces in this
PRINCE - ALPHABET STREET! Please please do a deep dive into this. One of the FUNKIEST slap bass lines there is, played by the man himself :)
PS GREAT VID. That fill by thunder cat in the live version is sick.
I love this song!
Taking a crack at this one, one-man-band style: ua-cam.com/users/shortsw4WPWcIa75Y. Thanks for the breakdown!
When I hear F711 my instinct is that the third would be in the chord. F7SUS I wouldn't assume there is a 3rd especially since its not resolving up a 4th (Shouldn't contain a leading tone).
I first recog this as an Earthbound chiptune cover, and was greatly happily confused to see the actualization of its bassity
is it really? I love that game, and now that you mention it, It does seem nostalgic for some reason now
Version I heard is posted by MixandMash, happy ventures saving the world!
Ok, the Tiny Desk show everyone looked severely hung over.
Great video. Happy to be a SBL subscriber!
i want more razzing on Jim.. big up Jim as always loved the video
Those chords would be much easier on one of my many non-bass guitars. Are there any players that string their 6- or 7-strings like a guitar, i.e. with top two strings tuned Be instead of Cf?
thundercat is why I bought a bass all those years ago... a 6 string too :') makes me so sad thinking about it
At first when you both started to colab, i didnt liked your duo. Now i love it! Nice job ❤
Thundercats makes such delicious Bass lines. Some other sweet Bass lines he did were on Kimbras album too!! Also Ian always whips out the coolest basses❤❤❤❤
6:43 my favourite chord, the F family mart
Please cover Clay Gober's bass line from The Omnific's Antecedent. Such a great line!
Thanks for the recommendation dude! We'll check it out! 🙌🏻🧡🔥
Who do I love ? I love youuuuuuuuuu 😂 thanks guys
I remember the feeling I felt when I first heard this.
No disrespect to Thundercat but greatest bass rift ever??? I know yall have heard Stanley Clarke "school days"
nobody asked
An awesome track to do would be 'Too Shy' by Kajagoogoo. Even ask Nick Beggs to come in and do it!!!
We got some serious stank / bass face going on here, love it
If your going to F 7-11 pick me up a slurpee please. Actually it's probably just an F7sus unless the 3rd is being played in which case its an F11
its literally F-11
Brilliant! Not only do you do a good demo but also show how it on 4 strings for us string challenged folk. Then you provide a pdf and tips on the effects! Quality product- you set a good example. If it wasn't being a member of SBL already I would feel guilty for not paying for this. It's given me many ideas. As for suggestions: Stanley Clarke's School Days and others from the "I Wanna Play for You" album. You two could do a good duet with "Jamaican Boy".
We still need some kinda video on this channel talking about the influence of Geezer Butler
You're absolutely right, needs to happen!
Ive seen it live (on UA-cam) where he had a tuba and another bass player backing him up.
Thank you so much for this video!❤ I always wondered how to play this great song, and you explained it so well, thanks again😊
Louis "Thunderthumbs" Johnson
Phelps "Catfish" Collins
Thundercat
I wish I could eat that bass sound🤤😅
It's definitely three. But basically the bass bass, that's doing the simple line is doubled. So you've got two takes, one panned left, one panned right, and then the chords down the center.
One of my favorite songs
Love it, thanks fellas. Man that Wal sounded good in Ian’s hands!
CHECK OUT THE ALBUM "WHERE THE GIANTS ROAM" BY THUNDERCAT
TIS the album that made me buy a bass, I didn't even know what a bass guitar was until then...so yeah greatest album ever in my opinion
Oh man! Finally the 6 String VF 6 I sold Scott is now in a video!
It is 3 tracks though. The clean chord one, and the filtered one is played freely on the left channel and doubled with mostly just roots on the right.
I imagine that if I wanted to cop this bassline on my Squier Bass Six, it would at least come close. It’s tuned differently than the ones you guys are playing it on, but I still would bet (if I gambled) that it could work. (I would also try for the vocal, considering I pride myself on singing and thumping at the same time.)
Not that I actually want you guys to do this one, but I’m gonna shout it out anyway. How about “The Sinister Minister”?
Sinister minister! Wooden is the best
bass vi will always just be a baritone guitar to me (not sure of the differences, maybe you can elaborate?) , although I so want one to practice bass chords a little easier...also, I guess with the right pedal/amp setup you could make a bass vi or baritone sound like a bass...
You guys did it! I'd love you to breakdown Sam Wilkes playing on Knower's "im the president" , super funky
What a song man . I 1st heard it 2 years ago ,and it majorly turned me around ,Just wow !
Killer right?! 🙌🏻
You guys are like Superman & Batman,,,great apart UNBEATABLE TOGETHER 🎸🤠
Now I realize where thunder and cat come from what a stonking groove. Inspired vid lads and great fun. I am off to the woodshed....
Unrelated. I'm a newbie. I find myself using my thumb and index finger together as if holding a pick and using the nail on my index finger in place of a pick. I like it on Joy Division, the Cure, etc. Is this a thing, or is this a bad habit to avoid? It works like a pick, but fatter and more Bassey? Lol
Blues Brothers - She Caught the Katy. Relentless but still with a touch of finesse. 👌🏻
Love the video. I am more of a guitar player who likes to pick up the bass whenever I can, just wondering why the guy on the left is wearing a glove on his one hand?
2:41 Right after "we thought it could have been three" it sounds like there's a fill on the left track that the right isn't following. Sounds to me like there's 2 filtered tracks panned left and right with the centre playing the chords.
Professional Bassists making chords on bass: *heaven noises*
Me Chording the Bass: *mUD*
Thanks. Ive been waiting for this. How bout Hot Cheetos by Mononeon?
You guys need to do on incubus - especially the science album. Dirk Lance is a beast
it is 3 bass tracks - you can hear he double tracked the octave part (panned hard left and right) and theyre not the same performance - the right track is simpler and the left track does the fills
Thanks guys, this is a beautiful mares😎
What if you have a pedal with stereo outs? Put one out to a clean amp and the the other through the effects chain to another amp. I’ve tried that a bit and it is so full sounding.
Is Ian going banana’s too all ready? 🤣
Good luck, Ian!
😉, 🖖.
Thundercat’s a fkn MUTANT on the bass
My DT770s seriously shaking at @12:00.
One of the nicest ways to mess around with an envelope filter.
Thanx
Yeah it's three basses. One clean in the middle, two effected panned right and left