@@mrt445 because it's pure submission grappling and BJJ guys only practice that. Whereas sambo guys practice a lot more stuff especially if it's combat sambo where striking is allowed.
@@brownjatt21 You have Sambo and you have Combat Sambo which is the MMA side of Sambo. Sambo guys briefly used to be better at submission grappling back in the day before BJJ copied their leg locking systems and improved on it.
@@Smeshmma44 these mma fighters did combat sambo. They did well in MMA because they know how to ground and pound and wrestle till they can find an opening for submission
@@markgonzalez3836 hey man I’m a sambo master candidate second highest rank in the fias sambo system I was talking about the guys comment he said sambo had strikes not Gordon so maybe read what I replied to first and maybe you will see you were very wrong 😂
@@Smeshmma44 what the fuck was he wrong about? Because he didnt state combat sambo hes wrong? No your just a kerren with no life when you get on the internet. Doesnt matter how good you think you are your not good enough clearly. Just being a nucence to people on the internet
a big part of it too is that where Sambo is typically popular like in Russia and the Middle East, they cross train in every grappling sport simultaneously, and view it as a rule change rather than a different sport entirely. like good sambo players were also good at judo, wrestling and their national country's wrestling style. among with it being heavily integrated into their culture
When you say "stands for" that implies Sambo is an acronym. Your following words do not make a matching acronym. It is like saying "Fly stands for elevated mechanical object." it doesn't make sense. UFO stands for "Unidentified Flying Object" that makes sense. If you meant translates sure maybe I don't speak the language. What I do speak though is that Wrestling, Kung Fu, Karate, Muay Thai, Lethwei, Boxing, and Judo all teach self defense without a weapon.
@@Machete__Squad let me Google that for you: "Sambo is a Russian martial art and combat sport. The word "SAMBO" is an acronym for SAMozashchita Bez Oruzhiya, which literally translates as "self-defense without weapons". Sambo is relatively modern since its development began in the early 1920s by the Soviet Red Army to improve their hand-to-hand combat abilities."
Yea made him look pretty dumb there. I like his comment at the end that doesn’t make sense. But I kinda get what he means (even though it reads like shit) and it’s like no shit bro. It’s like saying “Did you know that there are these styles of fighting called martial arts, where you fight without weapons” this guy from start to finish was trying to feel smart, now he looks like a first day white belt 🤣
Overall fighting, goes to sambo then. They both have same origins just remember. Maeda black belt under Kano and sambo founder was Russian judo black belt as well.
Wasn’t this whole debate started off in mma/real world scenarios though? Seems kind of obvious that bjj guys would win in a bjj competition. Just as a sambo guy would win in sambo lol
Because jiujitsu has come away from its roots as a combat art and sambo retained what it learnt from jiujitsu. In a street fight or bar fight I'd pick sambo over BJJ. Mainly because it's more.complete in that situation.
True, but we can also say that wrestling isn't necessarily a combat art like modern bjj, but it integrates well into MMA. I personally think it's how you train the base art. If you train point wrestling/BJJ with an emphasis on defending strikes and being offensive both can transition well.
@Illuminated by The Most High mma is a rule set, even today people have figured out it’s practically impossible to focus on all the intricacies of grappling and striking, most focus on standup grappling and kickboxing, I don’t see how it’s watered down I just think they focus on different areas
The sambo guys transition well to MMA because they have strong wrestling and value position/control which lends itself well to the skill set. It’s not that the sambo techniques themselves are any better than the BJJ techniques. Really wrestling should be getting more credit than sambo
Did you ever think that maybe wrestling was just a big part of Sambo ? 😅 It's funny when people say "oh no no it's not sambo that made him good, it was wrestling"
@@ETK696 I mean combat sambo is basically MMA with a different rule set so if the techniques are free style or Greco Roman wrestling techniques then wrestling still gets credit. Sport sambo is more judo throws and some submissions so not exactly double/single legs to takedowns
@@s.k7770 There are plenty of Double/single leg takedowns and entries even in sport sambo. Just because the judo stuff is more prevalent doesn't mean the wrestling stuff doesn't exist or isn't trained. And it all depends on the athlete.
@Hybrid Ronin wrestling emphasizes certain techniques more like singles doubles for various reasons. One being its one of the most basic attacks that work!
Damian Maia is a good example. Amazing BJJ, but you need a lot of other styles, wrestling being one of them. You honestly need both. In MMA sambo guys do practice submissions from BJJ, but BJJ guys don't practice wrestling/sambo nearly as much
Thats not what he said. what if you end in your back fighting someone 30 lbs heavier than you?, Jiu jitsu will be better fighting from your back than sambo, sambo guys are not as dangerous fighting from there backs. It all depends on the situation, some times jiu jitsu will be better, sometimes sambo.
@@sdt44if you end up on your back with a bigger guy on top in MMA, you are fucked. Doesn’t matter how good your jiujitsu is, all it takes is one punch to change the fight. Jiujitsu isn’t good enough to stop ground and pound unless you have extraordinary strength to restrain their arms, which defeats the purpose of the core of jiujitsu. Just look at Khabib.
Blame this on the Gracies. When Maeda brought Japanese Judo and JuJitsu to Brazil, the Gracie brothers dropped the Judo part and focused on perfecting the ground submissions. Russia kept the Judo and the JuJitsu and invented Sambo with these foundations.
He literally had to answer in Jui Jitsu favor. I hope people understand that. I’m not saying whats better or worse, rather I’m saying that literally how he had to answer because of what and who he is and represents. For me doesn’t matter, Jui Jitsu and Sambo both seem great
look.western people completely misundersdand what sambo actually is. combat sambo (which includes strikes) is not any special sort of martial art. It is just a competetional rule set . it's just a local type of mma in post-USSR countries, nothing more. there is also sport sambo (type of grappling) which is just judo subset.Now tell me, who are those mystirious "sambo guys" who are "successful in mma"? don't enumerate any of dagestanian fighters. they all are actually freestyle wrestlers, which have experience of participating in mma under "combat sambo" ruleset. the only pure sambist (sport sambo grappling) relatively successful in UFC was Oleg Taktarov in first tournments in 90s.
I dont think its the fact that bjj does something better, because Sambo is all grappling styles combined so you cant really say BJJ does something better when BJJ is a part of Sambo. Its the fact that most Combat Sambo experts prefer MMA which is more famous than ADCC.
If you just want to protect yourself. Jiu-jutsu and boxing is the key You don’t want to wrestle someone on the street. And you can always run but if you get caught boxing is best
Speaking as a Boxer/Judoka, I respectfully disagree with you on that. Boxing + Judo or Boxing + Wrestling would be wayyyyyyyyy better than Boxing + Jiu Jitsu because any form of standup grappling not only gives you the power to dictate the fight how you see fit, it also helps with your balance and takedown defense as well, which are things you will almost certainly never learn in BJJ. BJJ guys are notoriously easy to takedown and most of them are also god awful at takedowns as well. We can agree to disagree on whether or not one should initiate grappling in a street altercation . I personally believe that you should play it by the situation, in some cases yes you should take them down and in other situations no you shouldn’t. I won’t argue with you on that or try to change your mind as to why initiating grappling in the street can be viable but speaking as someone who wrestled in HS and is an active competition brown belt in Judo, my Wrestling/Judo base has made it very difficult for guys to try to take me down in street fights. In self defense situations I prefer to Box, and in any setting, when you’re getting lit up with punches, it’s a natural human reaction to want to grab/clinch in order to mitigate the threat of strikes. You see this all the time in Boxing, Muay Thai, Kickboxing, MMA, etc when one dude is getting his face punched in, he tries to force the clinic to protect himself. Speaking from personal experience, in every single street fight that I’ve been in, almost every single person I’ve fought has tried to force the clinch BECAUSE of the fact that I was a good boxer. Boxing is what opens up my Wrestling/Judo, the two go hand in hand. Meanwhile, I literally know BJJ black belts (and lower ranks) who can also strike very very good but they have all been taken down by random dude bros in street fights. I think a combo like Boxing + Jiu Jitsu isn’t good because if you find yourself using Jiu Jitsu in a street fight especially if you (like you said earlier) did not initiate the grappling, that means that you fucked up a long time ago by essentially allowing an untrained meathead to grab and control you to some degree and take you down to the ground. With a setup like Boxing + Wrestling or Boxing + Judo, no one’s going to be able to take you down unless they’re like 100 lbs + heavier than you. My two cents.
@@AusarisTV sounds like you get into way too many street fights, maybe have a word with yourself, you’re going looking for it, not cool, especially as someone who is trained to fight, de-escalation should be your main priority.
@@IamDude2 that’s not entirely true. I’m just from the hood so I have a completely different outlook on fighting and self defense than (I’m assuming based on your comment) someone like yourself who more than likely grew up in a safe neighborhood. I’m from the Westside of South Central Los Angeles. I’m not a tough guy because I want to be one, I’m a tough guy because I had to be one. Where I come from you have to fight for respect, literally, or else you will be victimized. This type of mindset is instilled in us from early childhood and unfortunately it’s a viscous cycle of dysfunction. Think about that for a moment.
Sambo is just another name for Russian jiu jitsu and jiu jitsu is just another name for judo. Both Brazilian jiu jitsu and Sambo have basically identical origins. At the end of the day, it's all just grappling regardless if it's judo, wrestling, or jiu jitsu it's all the same shit using the same principles of gaining a mechanical advantage over your opponent. The only thing that matters is how the individual practitioner invests their time. If you train for a specific rule set then you're going to get good at that rules set. This debate is so pointless.
I think the ufc doesn’t have many super high level jiu jitsu guys. It’s usually mma black belts vs sambo guys and sambo guys win. We haven’t really seen someone like Damien mia, or werdum fight a sambo guy. Charles was close but he wasn’t a major jiu jitsu champ, and he’s been subbed by lesser grapplers before. I guess a better example is Paul Craig vs magomed ankalaev and we saw Paul get the tap. But it’s rare to see super high level jiu jitsu black belts fight sambo guys in the ufc
@@Blackbelt-Shaq fedor is different though. He was arm baring 7 footers, and knocking dudes heads off. He isn’t that take you down, hold you down and you’re stuck under him for 5 rounds like the new wave of Russian wrestlers.
@@dundee1080 I mean average at best is a bit tough to say, when guys like werdum, burns, mia, olivera, and beniel Dariush are either, former champions, title contenders, or top contenders. I’d say that’s a bit more than “average”
I think it’s obvious sambo is more realistic which is why it works better in mma. Bjj has a lot of rules protecting them on positioning which in a fight they would not have that protection. Bjj is more reactionary and sneaky which is why when they pull something off in mma it seems like they tricked their opponent into a submission while the sambo guys are forcing their opponents into a bad position and then taking the that arm or neck home. While there are bjj guys who do have aggressive tactics they usually are incorporating wrestling and sambo moves within the context of grappling. Obviously bjj that incorporates hitting is more realistic and is newer on the scene. Gordon Ryan uses the more aggressive techniques and sneaky tactics better than anyone which is why he is the best. He transitions and incorporates more versatility but always is the more aggressive and efficient player. He doesn’t just hangout in the more defensive positions for obvious reasons but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t understand how to. At this stage you better be learning all three styles: sambo, wrestling and bjj to be the best grappler or you will be out matched at some point
La madre del judo es el jjp y jjb. De allí nace el judo. Y del judo sace el sambo. Todo es un ciclo muy bien integrado.. perfecto UD es el mejor ejemplo como khabik y es maravilloso verlos y q desplieguen sus enseñanzas.
Lets remember; In BJJ tournaments, competitors don't have to worry about punches and elbows. This is where high level combat Sambo competitors have the edge over BJJ in MMA.
True. As a jiu jitsu practioner myself, generally jiu jitsu is what Gordon Ryan usually does, where he’s on the bottom protecting his guard. Which in mma, you don’t really want to be in this situation, due to the fact that being on the ground is really just an disadvantage.
He's spot on. Sambo was designed for military/police use and was largely based on judo. It grew into a separate sport but it was never as intricate as BJJ.
Sambo is closer to mma than all the other combat sports because it not only incorporates ground game but striking as well. Ground and pound, grappling, submissions, and judo.
As a Sambo Coach Gordan is spot on 95% of Sambo guys go to mma. I agree with his opinion here. 👏 👏 well said
But why aren't they as successful when it comes to pure submission grappling in ADCC.
@@mrt445 because it's pure submission grappling and BJJ guys only practice that. Whereas sambo guys practice a lot more stuff especially if it's combat sambo where striking is allowed.
@@brownjatt21 You have Sambo and you have Combat Sambo which is the MMA side of Sambo. Sambo guys briefly used to be better at submission grappling back in the day before BJJ copied their leg locking systems and improved on it.
@@mrt445 Because our sport isn't 80-90% rolling around on the ground. These "pure grappeling" comps do not often incentivize throws/takedowns.
@@HURRICANEBRE90kg Ok, that's true
Sambo as a style seamlessly integrates striking with their submission grappling, that’s why it transitions to mma so well.
wrong sambo has no striking your talking about combat sambo
@@Smeshmma44 these mma fighters did combat sambo. They did well in MMA because they know how to ground and pound and wrestle till they can find an opening for submission
@@markgonzalez3836 hey man I’m a sambo master candidate second highest rank in the fias sambo system I was talking about the guys comment he said sambo had strikes not Gordon so maybe read what I replied to first and maybe you will see you were very wrong 😂
But now we have MMA which is essentially the same thing
@@Smeshmma44 what the fuck was he wrong about? Because he didnt state combat sambo hes wrong? No your just a kerren with no life when you get on the internet. Doesnt matter how good you think you are your not good enough clearly. Just being a nucence to people on the internet
Extremely fair take
uncanny for Gordon
@@russelesmailnah Gordon always makes sense. he just likes trash talking a lot
Well he said sambo guys do bad in bjj tournaments. No shit. Bjj guys would do bad in Sambo tournaments too
Why did I just read fake hair?
@@_rd_kocaman I don't know, lol
Sambo: takedowns
Jiujitsu: sitdowns
🤣👍👏
😂
Sport jujitsu you mean.
@@stur6722 sure, but it used to happen in MMA plenty before they got stood up more often
Jiu-jitsu: slow butt scoot of doom
I was pleasantly surprised to hear a legitimate and fair answer that makes sense.
a big part of it too is that where Sambo is typically popular like in Russia and the Middle East, they cross train in every grappling sport simultaneously, and view it as a rule change rather than a different sport entirely. like good sambo players were also good at judo, wrestling and their national country's wrestling style. among with it being heavily integrated into their culture
Sambo isn't popular in the ME
*central asia and causcaus not middle east😅
@@dzakiaqillah1870 true
it is not popular in Middle East and maybe it is popular because Russia invented it? Are u dumb
Not so popular in the middle east
Sambo is basically mma.
Sambo is grappling heavy mma. Their striking is mediocre. Their wrestling, judo, submissions are high level.
💯
Makhachev' striking isnt mediocre at all
@@kinantantjiptawirawan1326 because he trains in AKA where they train wrestlers to be a complete fighters like DC, Rockhold, Cain, etc.
@@LeoLCDT Makhachev' striking is way better than Khabib though, look at how he stand up trade with Volk
Sambo definitely transitions to MMA very well!
As an old Judoka, he’s 100% right.
Sambo literally stands for "self defense without weapons". It is a proto-MMA system. That's why they do well in MMA.
When you say "stands for" that implies Sambo is an acronym. Your following words do not make a matching acronym. It is like saying "Fly stands for elevated mechanical object." it doesn't make sense.
UFO stands for "Unidentified Flying Object" that makes sense. If you meant translates sure maybe I don't speak the language. What I do speak though is that Wrestling, Kung Fu, Karate, Muay Thai, Lethwei, Boxing, and Judo all teach self defense without a weapon.
@@Machete__Squad let me Google that for you: "Sambo is a Russian martial art and combat sport. The word "SAMBO" is an acronym for SAMozashchita Bez Oruzhiya, which literally translates as "self-defense without weapons". Sambo is relatively modern since its development began in the early 1920s by the Soviet Red Army to improve their hand-to-hand combat abilities."
@@melvindunn2234 got him good
Yea made him look pretty dumb there. I like his comment at the end that doesn’t make sense. But I kinda get what he means (even though it reads like shit) and it’s like no shit bro. It’s like saying “Did you know that there are these styles of fighting called martial arts, where you fight without weapons” this guy from start to finish was trying to feel smart, now he looks like a first day white belt 🤣
Sambo is like a combination of wrestling and judo. Jiujitsu is more of ground fighting
Overall fighting, goes to sambo then. They both have same origins just remember. Maeda black belt under Kano and sambo founder was Russian judo black belt as well.
Exactly everyone talks crap about judo but it's the basis for so called bjj and sambo
😂 what ? Judo is the most unanimously respected martial art
True but everything goes back to wrestling @@u45.-
One of my favourite super nerds is Gordan!
I tried to explain this for 20 minutes the other day in class and The king just summed it up in 15 seconds
He's NOT the first to say this, nor say it this concise.
I hope it was an ESL class.
Wasn’t this whole debate started off in mma/real world scenarios though?
Seems kind of obvious that bjj guys would win in a bjj competition. Just as a sambo guy would win in sambo lol
Nothing is more cringe than a fully grown man calling another grown man “king” - that’s some strong pathetic simp energy!
@@JTD472 LOL
Because jiujitsu has come away from its roots as a combat art and sambo retained what it learnt from jiujitsu. In a street fight or bar fight I'd pick sambo over BJJ. Mainly because it's more.complete in that situation.
True, but we can also say that wrestling isn't necessarily a combat art like modern bjj, but it integrates well into MMA. I personally think it's how you train the base art. If you train point wrestling/BJJ with an emphasis on defending strikes and being offensive both can transition well.
That's what he said.
@@edmuquit5134 i agree, although wrestling as a combat art has been around for millennia as a base form for fighting soldiers.
@@carloscortes1577 he missed the combat element
Sambo and BJJ both come from Judo.
He said that perfectly
Jiujitsu works super well when you’re not getting ground and pounded. The ground n pound aspect makes wrestling and Sambo more effective
It works well with punches also, just most people today practice sport BJJ that doesn't deal with strikes at all.
The California accent is so bad. 😂 This guy is a beast though.
He’s from new jersey never even lived in Cali I’m from Cali and he doesn’t sound like Anyone from here
'Heuehyehe' he knows 😂😂😂
Those sambo guys in mma also have extensive competitive wrestling background
@Illuminated by The Most High mma is a rule set, even today people have figured out it’s practically impossible to focus on all the intricacies of grappling and striking, most focus on standup grappling and kickboxing, I don’t see how it’s watered down I just think they focus on different areas
" If SAMBO was easy, they'd call it JiuJitsu" - LOL
Magomed Ankalaev approves
The sambo guys transition well to MMA because they have strong wrestling and value position/control which lends itself well to the skill set. It’s not that the sambo techniques themselves are any better than the BJJ techniques. Really wrestling should be getting more credit than sambo
Joe rogan loser loves bjj
Did you ever think that maybe wrestling was just a big part of Sambo ? 😅
It's funny when people say "oh no no it's not sambo that made him good, it was wrestling"
@@ETK696 I mean combat sambo is basically MMA with a different rule set so if the techniques are free style or Greco Roman wrestling techniques then wrestling still gets credit. Sport sambo is more judo throws and some submissions so not exactly double/single legs to takedowns
@@s.k7770 There are plenty of Double/single leg takedowns and entries even in sport sambo. Just because the judo stuff is more prevalent doesn't mean the wrestling stuff doesn't exist or isn't trained. And it all depends on the athlete.
@Hybrid Ronin wrestling emphasizes certain techniques more like singles doubles for various reasons. One being its one of the most basic attacks that work!
He looks 40 with a teenager's voice
Your 40 with the paycheck of a teenager
Oh wow what a dumbass reply lmao
@@austinyoung2723 you’re*
@hnviejhiwdhnfwodfsdfdfs nice one 👍🏽
@@austinyoung2723 fangirl
27 years old. Mindblowing.
Roid years are different
Roids make him look 37
@@nalsra0 Beard
he invents a stomach ache when he's scared. hahahahahahahaahhaahahahahahahahahaha
Sambo guys always go to jujitsu tournaments but bjj guys never go to sambo tournaments. There’s a reason lol
Almost like the stylistic difference is only transferable one way
I guess you haven't seen the Rickson and Jean Jacque Machado videos where they beat up Sambo guys in their tournaments.
Both them got destroyed.
And not even against world class Soviet wrestlers, but against your part-time Sambist American wrestlers.
Because sambo is far less mainstream than bjj. Bjj is one of the most practiced martial arts in the world bruh
Mikey Musemeci and Kade Ruotolo beg to differ 😂
Honest unbiased response
Just learn how to defend yourself as best as possible. Be consistent and be dedicated
Thats why I like Eddie Bravos understanding/philosophy of Jiu Jitsu. He tries to make BJJ work in MMA well too.
He's style of bjj is the least effective in MMA / fighting.
Just bunch of gimmicks. If you seen them once, you know to stay out if them.
Damian Maia is a good example. Amazing BJJ, but you need a lot of other styles, wrestling being one of them. You honestly need both. In MMA sambo guys do practice submissions from BJJ, but BJJ guys don't practice wrestling/sambo nearly as much
As a Bjj fighter myself I've practiced Judo my entire life too so...
Gordons of the best for the rest and the lives man got to respect a man
Can't really argue with this.
He unintentionally said sambo is better for self defense
Thats not what he said.
what if you end in your back fighting someone 30 lbs heavier than you?, Jiu jitsu will be better fighting from your back than sambo, sambo guys are not as dangerous fighting from there backs.
It all depends on the situation, some times jiu jitsu will be better, sometimes sambo.
@@sdt44if you end up on your back with a bigger guy on top in MMA, you are fucked. Doesn’t matter how good your jiujitsu is, all it takes is one punch to change the fight. Jiujitsu isn’t good enough to stop ground and pound unless you have extraordinary strength to restrain their arms, which defeats the purpose of the core of jiujitsu. Just look at Khabib.
100 meter race is way better for self defense, only fight as a last resort
@@melt6894 mma isnt self defense
@@mxvrdahegaouwu7577 not true, running can sometimes be the worse option and plus not everyone can run fast
Well said !
The Sambo guys in mma are able to utilize the fence well, ADCC doesn’t have a fence.
adcc doesn't have ground and pound as well
@@lumberjackagies5158
Nice 😅
If ryan stopped dying his hair we would be like who tf is that
His cycles are taking from his life and adding years to his look.
As long as he cycles off he will be fine. Everything in moderation.
He dyes his hair and when he started her was under 24.
Of course post 24 he's going to look old
@@tallyotoinc You say this like its normal.0
Do them all and you’re golden
Blame this on the Gracies. When Maeda brought Japanese Judo and JuJitsu to Brazil, the Gracie brothers dropped the Judo part and focused on perfecting the ground submissions.
Russia kept the Judo and the JuJitsu and invented Sambo with these foundations.
Well...i have no need to blame anyone cuz i started Judo at 6yo and bjj at 12 so 😂 (I'm 24 now)
He’s geared to the max.
Everyone in adcc is
@@randomuser6306 you’re right
I swear everytime I hear this dude speak he sounds different
This guy is like 23 yrs old but looks like a legendary man of wisdom.
The scary thing about Gordon is he’s so calculating like John danaher, and built like a brick wall
Juiced to the gills
@@SIGHTERify Pure juice! Juicy Lucy
Indeed! These words are coming from the Submission Grappling king.
This only prove pure bjj is not enough to win a mma fight
That's obvious though
Damn what a head packed with gears ⚙️
He literally had to answer in Jui Jitsu favor. I hope people understand that. I’m not saying whats better or worse, rather I’m saying that literally how he had to answer because of what and who he is and represents. For me doesn’t matter, Jui Jitsu and Sambo both seem great
El sambo y el judo son de la mano en mma
Y son exelente en la transición.
So in other words if you want to survive: Sambo.
the famous poop, ahahahahahhahahaha
The equivalent of a kickboxing guy going into boxing and doing worse, but having a smoother transition into MMA.
Sport jiu jitsu guys fall apart during a scrap
Can't believe this dude is younger than me..... I'm 29 but shittttttt
prob the gear
Well said 👍
It all comes from the same place, and that's not Brazil!
japan. proud asian here
@Itsthemuscledad you're right! That's why I said from a place not Brazil hahaha. People get mad lol.
Wrestling doesn’t come form japan its form europa
look.western people completely misundersdand what sambo actually is. combat sambo (which includes strikes) is not any special sort of martial art. It is just a competetional rule set . it's just a local type of mma in post-USSR countries, nothing more. there is also sport sambo (type of grappling) which is just judo subset.Now tell me, who are those mystirious "sambo guys" who are "successful in mma"? don't enumerate any of dagestanian fighters. they all are actually freestyle wrestlers, which have experience of participating in mma under "combat sambo" ruleset. the only pure sambist (sport sambo grappling) relatively successful in UFC was Oleg Taktarov in first tournments in 90s.
I dont think its the fact that bjj does something better, because Sambo is all grappling styles combined so you cant really say BJJ does something better when BJJ is a part of Sambo.
Its the fact that most Combat Sambo experts prefer MMA which is more famous than ADCC.
Gordon is the rain man of bjj
Sambo has way better standing up takedowns, bjj has slightly better ground game
If you just want to protect yourself.
Jiu-jutsu and boxing is the key
You don’t want to wrestle someone on the street.
And you can always run but if you get caught boxing is best
Speaking as a Boxer/Judoka, I respectfully disagree with you on that. Boxing + Judo or Boxing + Wrestling would be wayyyyyyyyy better than Boxing + Jiu Jitsu because any form of standup grappling not only gives you the power to dictate the fight how you see fit, it also helps with your balance and takedown defense as well, which are things you will almost certainly never learn in BJJ. BJJ guys are notoriously easy to takedown and most of them are also god awful at takedowns as well. We can agree to disagree on whether or not one should initiate grappling in a street altercation . I personally believe that you should play it by the situation, in some cases yes you should take them down and in other situations no you shouldn’t.
I won’t argue with you on that or try to change your mind as to why initiating grappling in the street can be viable but speaking as someone who wrestled in HS and is an active competition brown belt in Judo, my Wrestling/Judo base has made it very difficult for guys to try to take me down in street fights. In self defense situations I prefer to Box, and in any setting, when you’re getting lit up with punches, it’s a natural human reaction to want to grab/clinch in order to mitigate the threat of strikes. You see this all the time in Boxing, Muay Thai, Kickboxing, MMA, etc when one dude is getting his face punched in, he tries to force the clinic to protect himself. Speaking from personal experience, in every single street fight that I’ve been in, almost every single person I’ve fought has tried to force the clinch BECAUSE of the fact that I was a good boxer. Boxing is what opens up my Wrestling/Judo, the two go hand in hand.
Meanwhile, I literally know BJJ black belts (and lower ranks) who can also strike very very good but they have all been taken down by random dude bros in street fights. I think a combo like Boxing + Jiu Jitsu isn’t good because if you find yourself using Jiu Jitsu in a street fight especially if you (like you said earlier) did not initiate the grappling, that means that you fucked up a long time ago by essentially allowing an untrained meathead to grab and control you to some degree and take you down to the ground. With a setup like Boxing + Wrestling or Boxing + Judo, no one’s going to be able to take you down unless they’re like 100 lbs + heavier than you.
My two cents.
You don't wanna buttscoot and pull guard on the street lol
@@AusarisTV sounds like you get into way too many street fights, maybe have a word with yourself, you’re going looking for it, not cool, especially as someone who is trained to fight, de-escalation should be your main priority.
@@IamDude2 that’s not entirely true. I’m just from the hood so I have a completely different outlook on fighting and self defense than (I’m assuming based on your comment) someone like yourself who more than likely grew up in a safe neighborhood. I’m from the Westside of South Central Los Angeles. I’m not a tough guy because I want to be one, I’m a tough guy because I had to be one. Where I come from you have to fight for respect, literally, or else you will be victimized. This type of mindset is instilled in us from early childhood and unfortunately it’s a viscous cycle of dysfunction. Think about that for a moment.
@@AusarisTV I thought about it…and concluded you have a fair point 👍
Most Sambo guys in the ufc are also not being tested by USADA out of competition while they're in Dagestan.
Yeah and Russians are famous for this 😶😂
Listen closely. He repeats himself 3 times😂😂😂😂😂😂
That seems like a totally logical and coherent answer.
Sambo is just another name for Russian jiu jitsu and jiu jitsu is just another name for judo. Both Brazilian jiu jitsu and Sambo have basically identical origins. At the end of the day, it's all just grappling regardless if it's judo, wrestling, or jiu jitsu it's all the same shit using the same principles of gaining a mechanical advantage over your opponent. The only thing that matters is how the individual practitioner invests their time. If you train for a specific rule set then you're going to get good at that rules set. This debate is so pointless.
Why does Gordon look like nick frost in this video lmao
Gordon Ryan is the Ben Shapiro of combat sports
Best combat sambo
Goat-King of saying boring things really really fast.
gordon is going into sambo now
I think the ufc doesn’t have many super high level jiu jitsu guys. It’s usually mma black belts vs sambo guys and sambo guys win. We haven’t really seen someone like Damien mia, or werdum fight a sambo guy. Charles was close but he wasn’t a major jiu jitsu champ, and he’s been subbed by lesser grapplers before. I guess a better example is Paul Craig vs magomed ankalaev and we saw Paul get the tap. But it’s rare to see super high level jiu jitsu black belts fight sambo guys in the ufc
Burns, dern, almeida, muniz,...
Pause.. Werdum literally subbed Sambos heavyweight kingpin…Fedor. Honest Maia vs Khabib looks a lot like Maia vs Askren imo
@@Blackbelt-Shaq fedor is different though. He was arm baring 7 footers, and knocking dudes heads off. He isn’t that take you down, hold you down and you’re stuck under him for 5 rounds like the new wave of Russian wrestlers.
That's because most BJJ guys are average at best in MMA and they are average as athletes as well.
@@dundee1080 I mean average at best is a bit tough to say, when guys like werdum, burns, mia, olivera, and beniel Dariush are either, former champions, title contenders, or top contenders. I’d say that’s a bit more than “average”
The difference is getting punched in the face while going for submissions
I've wrestled my whole life and have handled jujitsu guys in street fights.
Ok
I think it’s obvious sambo is more realistic which is why it works better in mma.
Bjj has a lot of rules protecting them on positioning which in a fight they would not have that protection.
Bjj is more reactionary and sneaky which is why when they pull something off in mma it seems like they tricked their opponent into a submission while the sambo guys are forcing their opponents into a bad position and then taking the that arm or neck home. While there are bjj guys who do have aggressive tactics they usually are incorporating wrestling and sambo moves within the context of grappling. Obviously bjj that incorporates hitting is more realistic and is newer on the scene.
Gordon Ryan uses the more aggressive techniques and sneaky tactics better than anyone which is why he is the best. He transitions and incorporates more versatility but always is the more aggressive and efficient player. He doesn’t just hangout in the more defensive positions for obvious reasons but that doesn’t mean he doesn’t understand how to. At this stage you better be learning all three styles: sambo, wrestling and bjj to be the best grappler or you will be out matched at some point
If Jiu-Jitsu was boring it would be called Sambo
If Sambo was easy it would be called Jiu-Jitsu
Lol at least try to quote it properly😂
Jiu jitsu IS boring
@@jeffersonromano6083 If Rugby was easy it would be called Sambo lol
@@jeffersonromano6083 if that was true Mikey would have lost
This guy beat Bo nickel 😂😂😂
Good take
This is why his the goat. His real
Sambo guys... 2 guys kkkkkkkkkk
"If you make a Sambo guy compete by our rules we're better." Okay flip the roles around.
Whats the difference between wrestling and grappling?
La madre del judo es el jjp y jjb. De allí nace el judo. Y del judo sace el sambo. Todo es un ciclo muy bien integrado.. perfecto UD es el mejor ejemplo como khabik y es maravilloso verlos y q desplieguen sus enseñanzas.
Gordan from halflife
Freestyle wrestlers still have the best base
Sambo is about combat.
How fast did you speed this up, dorks-
...and striking lol
Both Sambo and Bjj came out of Judo and Catch wrestling
As a jiu jitsu guy I want to learn sambo so bad but nobody teaches it where I’m at
Judo or wrestling is your next best bet
Then just learn wrestling itself
Then you got basically the best grappling and wrestling if you add your JJ
Yea fair take by Gordon . He just forgot to add that sambo integrates well with bear wrestling as well 😂
Lets remember; In BJJ tournaments, competitors don't have to worry about punches and elbows. This is where high level combat Sambo competitors have the edge over BJJ in MMA.
True. As a jiu jitsu practioner myself, generally jiu jitsu is what Gordon Ryan usually does, where he’s on the bottom protecting his guard. Which in mma, you don’t really want to be in this situation, due to the fact that being on the ground is really just an disadvantage.
-which is really the reason why for fighting reasons, you should be versatile in both wrestling and jiu-jitsu.
Combat sambo is literally just mma with a go on.
“Sambo doesn’t exist”- Craig jones
Sambo is mma
*Ahemm* Ryan Hall
If Australian wrestling was easy it would be called Sambo
Does he highlight his hair and his beard?
So he is saying takedowns arent grappling😂😂😂😂
He's spot on. Sambo was designed for military/police use and was largely based on judo. It grew into a separate sport but it was never as intricate as BJJ.
Sambo is closer to mma than all the other combat sports because it not only incorporates ground game but striking as well. Ground and pound, grappling, submissions, and judo.
Very well articulated. Danaher is really rubbing off on him
💯 right Gordo