I think the only reason season 2 didn’t have the best animation, was because it was rushed hard. The whole season was finished within like six months. I think, if given time, season 3 will look really good.
Nah, OPM's style isn't really J.C Staff's forte. Also, it's not only the animation that sucks, even the music and sfx. I hope they made some improvements with the staff that's going to work on S3 and give justice to Murata's illustrations.
@@brokenamvs9707 and the Season will end at 12 eps up to Saitama vs Orochi and the reveal of God's Mural lmao. That'll be a good ending and hoping other/better animation studio will pick up OPM S4 and continue with the heavily detailed fight between Tatsumaki vs Psykorochi etc and the Surface Monster Cadre Arc vs S-class heroes and if they make it a 24 eps then it'll cover Saitama vs Garou.
8:21 just to drive home how absurd this move is: The name is Omnidirectional Serious Punch,it’s a single punch with dozens of after images making it look like it’s coming from everywhere. When Saitama punched him in the portal he didn’t follow Garou,HE WAS ALREADY ON THE OTHER SIDE(you can even see him in the split second Garou opens the portal). The crazy thing is that he was moving so fast that he was faster than teleportation,he probably saw Garou opening a portal and ran around the moon to find the other side and punched him right back to where he was trying to scape from. Because of that this is my favorite serious move of him so far.
@@Thebluewidesky doesn’t make any sense,how would he go through a portal that fits Garou almost exactly? Plus he would have to bounce back on another rock to come punch him. Is it that hard to believe that the strongest character in the series would outspeed Garou that hard?
@@Thebluewidesky spreading misinformation for fun huh? Garou opens a portal that fits him,looks down,goes through it before the after images hit him,still looking down he sees Saitama coming at him. If you want to go through hoops to justify Saitama squeezing through the same portal for some reason then ok,I can’t stop you. But we both know that the most likely and coolest interpretation is Saitama being faster than teleportation
This isn't the only fight JC Staff has to animate either but I do hope they surprise us because they can make great animations (ex. the Konosuba movie)
@@EDAnime1 full strenght? Give me a break. It doesn't said here but before battle Saitama made promise to boy, that he will help Garou. He never tried kill him, just beat his ass so he understand what he's done... UPD: Besides, he never showed even a little bit of difficulty for this fight. No scratches, no injures, no yelling like if his life been in danger. Garou simply showed his moved with atomic energy radiation in atleast high hypersonic+ speed. And Saitama just "Even I can do something like this", and do it.
@@kaedonhodges9014 caped baldy was made to be unbeatable. That’s fundamental to his character or atleast to his creation lol dude literally turns back in time (with Garous help)
give him a minute, with that god tier training routine its only a matter of time before he can take down goku. hes just gotta use god as a stepping stone
@@KamilSzczygielski-u3b bro r u dumb one punch man manga is not even ended yet and you just assumed saitama is planetary level there is a villain called god in the series we can only get to know saitma's true strength when he faces god
Honestly if JC staff is cooking with fairy tail I’m interested to see how they do one punch man. As a big fan of both series I do believe in the staff if given the correct amount of time.
Doesn't bro know season 2 was rushed like crazy jc staff had multiple animes to animate but this time they are only working on opm And the entire trailer looks better than this
Bruh the debate between Saitama vs Goku .. forget about that The fact that Murata himself said that he will make god in OPM the strongest character in whole Anime/Manga History say's everything.. forget goku The Whole Verse of DB will fear Murata Himself for creating god 😂
@@liquid1514 But hold no weight, GOD is powerful asf right now as we speak and that’s just a small part of his power but true, I will agree because it’s true… there’s hella GODS out there that outshines him and been there and done that which what you may be saying or you’re just saying it’s just gonna take long etc
@@Mope333 Saitama scales with power, no matter how strong goku is he will grow beyond him and he will win. Goku loses because he cant scale that fast. Its simple logic if you could only overcome your biases
i honestly think saitama would beat goku in my opinion only because of how saitama has limitless power where as goku has his limits the only thing goku would have an advantage in would be in martial arts skills and his ki but im was always wondering if goku were to train saitama to use ki how strong would he be
1:21, 1:39 It could be, if J.C.Staff stopped taking on other projects like Fairy Tail & this new vampire foster home anime. Please, we do Not want 1 week breaks like MHA. 2:18 Only the viewers & Saitama's friends & colleagues know why Bang stayed down. And everyone else still don't know.
With limitless power, strength, and durability scaling during the fight... He can definitely defeat Goku. But it depends if Saitama lets Goku rest for a week to obtain a new hair color.
@@EDAnime1 well There is a difference between training every day and almost die every fight to evolve towards infinity and evolving towards infinity automatically and exponentially the second the opponent is at the level. don't you think?🤔
@@AyamKRazy knowing saitama, during the fight he is perfectly capable of waiting 1 or 2 hours while Goku go train in the room of spirit and time. just to make the fight even more exciting🤷♂️
are you serious? this animation is good, but jc staff was rushed, and even then season 2 was better than this. now, with a bigger budget, and time limit, they will definitely do better. and also, garou vs saitama can ABSOLUTELY not happen in season 3 unless its 24 episodes or more. (the seasons are usually 12). atp you just saying all this for user interaction
We all know that season 3's animation will be trash since it is the same studio as season 2. I hope they hand it back to the animation studio of season 1
@@ethan_redwind6766 don't get me wrong, I still watched it. Storywise, s2 is still fire. It's just that the animation is trash, especially the fight scenes, they're lame. Just frozen characters with moving backgrounds. Very disappointing.
Even the season 3 trailer that is a few seconds short, which they have a long time to improve the animation, cannot be compared to one of the fight scenes in season one. Say Genos vs Saitama as an example.
@@GreenTeam-re3jy current base goku > bog ssg goku, current saitama caps at galaxy with his best feat being the clash with garou currently, rn in the story of opm theres no feat on par with the universal feat in the bog arc, hes dealt with people who can improve WAY faster then saitama and if he notices saitama growing in power hes not gonna let him surpass him, in character or not. Base goku currently outscales everything in opm except god if he created the universe, saitama will probably surpass him but currently goku outscales
Gonna post the comment here for those that want it, I feel I am well versed enough in both series to give a thorough answer to the question. Saitama - Strength First Saitama, currently, at his absolute most wanked extreme, is anywhere from multi-solar to multi-galaxy. That is very subjective on where you want to place him, but no higher than that. This is due to a feat of him and garou clashing evenly creating a massive explosion, that leaves behind a void in space where stars used to be. Now this feat is somewhat contentious, but the general agreement on where it places him, is galaxy level. For those that aren't aware, on earth there is only so many celestial bodies we can view, and the majority of those, are stars, 99% of the light sources to be specific, and are all centralised in a tiny region within our galaxy. The other 1 percent are galaxies and nebulae, that is where the two galactic scales come in for him. If it happened to hit a nebula, then it would be a multi galaxy level feat, a galaxy obviously a singular galaxy level feat. There is also the fact that the blast could have easily destroyed more than what is shown. But that is impossible to prove on both ends. One final thing to mention people will desperately attempt to say saitama is 4th dimensional. The 4D hyperspace gate is In and of itself, absurd. For those unaware, in Saitamas fight with Cosmic Fear Garou, Garou creates these constructs known as "Hyperspace" Gates. The importance behind this, is that a Hyperspace is defined as having more than 3 dimensions. Now I despise dimensional tiering, as it makes the subject very unaproachable for newcomers, but as a quick explanation we exist in 3 dimensions: length, width and depth now imagine a 4th dimension, difficult because we can only comprehend 3. To make this simple, imagine the dynamic of a drawing and the person drawing it, the drawing is 2 dimensional, it cannot move on the z-axis, and us, as the 3rd dimensional beings, are both unnobservible to, and infinitely more powerful than the drawing we make, that is the general jist of how the system works. The only way you can say the gates Garou summons are fourth dimensional, is through a naming fallacy, hyperspace CAN mean more than 3 dimensions yes. But it's also a massive science fiction term, and is often affiliated to either light speed based travel, star wars being a good example. Or in the case of cosmic garou, teleportation/portal creation. And nothing about them indicates higher dimensionality. All they are is a hole in space to travel between any 2 distances nearly instantaneously. Nothing else. Goku - Strength - Lowball (this is for avid goku downplayers, and skip to the next segment if you don't want to read this.) Goku on the other hand, the absolute bare minimum you can scale him to, is 104,000-1,040,000x universal by taking the lowest interpretation of the Dragon ball macrocosm being only 13 times bigger than our own universe, this is deathbattles first number for it btw. And using all of the canon multipliers for the transformations that being super saiyan 1-3 and kioken stacked on top. (The second number is due to whether or not you think grade 4, or mastered super saiyan is stronger than grade 3, which it definitely is btw, which is stated to be 10x the strength of ssj grade 1.) Now this is me being extremely spiteful to goku, realistically, even his base massively outscales this, but first I need to touch on the common place goku downplay. The rock, the laser, and the bullet certainly haven't done his reputation any favours. The only inexcusable one to me is the bullet, but that is more applicable to supers horrible writing and consistency issues, but the general reasoning for these, is that Dragon ball characters can be compromised if they are A: known to hold back a lot, and B: are caught of guard. This is not applicable in this fight so whatever. Another idiotic thong that people claim, is that you'd inability to withstand high temperatures and breath in space, is somehow indicative of his general competency, which I shouldn't even need to tell you is stupid. Goku - Strength - Standard. This is very consistent powerscaling for Goku, and is generally my approach to discussing him. In Goku's fight with beerus, by punching 3 times, they threatened to destroy the entire universe 7 macrocosm. Which contains within multiple infinite sized realms. And an arguable infinite 5th dimensional realm in the form of other world. The macrocosm is so vast, that when standing on grand kais planet, otherworld vanishes. This gives goku in base form, near irrefutable low complex multiversal (the ability to destroy an infinite 5D realm) attack potency. He becomes far. FAR stronger than this throughout super, and it is possible that by scaling to jiren, goku can be scaled to 6th dimensional, given jiren is described as transcending time itself, and in this level of power, transcending can be applied to dimensions of the other universes. But it's not something I agree with so I typically stick to high 5D for goku.
How is saitama being multi solar system to galaxy an absolute wanked extreme? It's been accepted as a Midball for saitama alot, now if you said multi galaxy or universal that I can see as an extreme wank
I think the only reason season 2 didn’t have the best animation, was because it was rushed hard. The whole season was finished within like six months. I think, if given time, season 3 will look really good.
At the moment, they've already been working on season 3 longer than season 2 and we haven't even received a date
@@kollar6958 which is good cause that's more time for them
I still enjoyed it tbh i hope season 3 looks better tho
@@ethan_redwind6766the layout leaks look really good
Nah, OPM's style isn't really J.C Staff's forte. Also, it's not only the animation that sucks, even the music and sfx. I hope they made some improvements with the staff that's going to work on S3 and give justice to Murata's illustrations.
Saitama vs Garou with the same level of animation the Boros fight had would be immaculate
Man I can’t wait to see that tornado vs pshyorochi that will be one of the best animated fights in history
That'll be in s4 with 24 eps.
I hope it'll be like S1
@@Rinn_Ckhristian S3 trailer literally says "Supreme Power vs Ultimate Fear"
@@brokenamvs9707 and the Season will end at 12 eps up to Saitama vs Orochi and the reveal of God's Mural lmao.
That'll be a good ending and hoping other/better animation studio will pick up OPM S4 and continue with the heavily detailed fight between Tatsumaki vs Psykorochi etc and the Surface Monster Cadre Arc vs S-class heroes and if they make it a 24 eps then it'll cover Saitama vs Garou.
@@Rinn_Ckhristian isn't this just a dirty publicity stunt then if they are hyping up s4/s5 stuff in s3 trailer
8:21 just to drive home how absurd this move is:
The name is Omnidirectional Serious Punch,it’s a single punch with dozens of after images making it look like it’s coming from everywhere. When Saitama punched him in the portal he didn’t follow Garou,HE WAS ALREADY ON THE OTHER SIDE(you can even see him in the split second Garou opens the portal). The crazy thing is that he was moving so fast that he was faster than teleportation,he probably saw Garou opening a portal and ran around the moon to find the other side and punched him right back to where he was trying to scape from. Because of that this is my favorite serious move of him so far.
That one and the Zero Punch are my favorites ones, the Zero Punch "a punch that hits even before of being launched"
Nah, saitama got trasported also after he went at the same protal tgat garou created. He didint jumb from jupiters moon to reach garou
@@Thebluewidesky doesn’t make any sense,how would he go through a portal that fits Garou almost exactly? Plus he would have to bounce back on another rock to come punch him. Is it that hard to believe that the strongest character in the series would outspeed Garou that hard?
@onesmileybaldy8303 murata draw it himself yet you say murata drawing is wrong? He draw saitama following garou into his portal.
@@Thebluewidesky spreading misinformation for fun huh? Garou opens a portal that fits him,looks down,goes through it before the after images hit him,still looking down he sees Saitama coming at him. If you want to go through hoops to justify Saitama squeezing through the same portal for some reason then ok,I can’t stop you. But we both know that the most likely and coolest interpretation is Saitama being faster than teleportation
Man's did this whole thing using a free app ON HIS PHONE! Just imagine how hard RHG could cook with a full setup.
There's no way that all this time this animation was made on a phone...
@@omegaalpha8380 you'd be surprised
What's crazy is that its just one person who animate this fanmade by using his phone...
Wait really? I didn't even know he only made this amazing animation on a PHONE 😲🤯
This isn't the only fight JC Staff has to animate either but I do hope they surprise us because they can make great animations (ex. the Konosuba movie)
Even tho it was a long ass time ago, I still think their best looking show is Toradora 😂
Saitama OBLITERATES Goku
You say this on every video without backing it up
Goku keeps shattering his limits. Saitama is limitless. It's simple as that.
Ye
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3:34 alright bro
*Don’t forget he is still fighting with one hand..*
one hand at full strength
@@EDAnime1 full strenght? Give me a break. It doesn't said here but before battle Saitama made promise to boy, that he will help Garou. He never tried kill him, just beat his ass so he understand what he's done...
UPD: Besides, he never showed even a little bit of difficulty for this fight. No scratches, no injures, no yelling like if his life been in danger. Garou simply showed his moved with atomic energy radiation in atleast high hypersonic+ speed. And Saitama just "Even I can do something like this", and do it.
@@dargenflame2500 still full strength lol
@@EDAnime1 ...bruh...
@@EDAnime1full strength huh I didn't see him sweating or getting hurt
Its like Saitama is fighting Garou with bedrock armor
he can beat Goku in fact he is limitless he can surpass garou's power even further!
he cant.
goku outscales. HEAVILY.
You is delusional 👎🏻@@potato20291
can you one punch man fans actually read?
@@potato20291 Goku is rock/laser/stone/vacuum of space victim 💀😭😭🙏🙏
@liquid1514 Saitama casually tanking the strongest explosion in the universe which can reach temperatures over 2 billion degrees 💀💀😭😭🙏🙏
All you mfs sayin Goku outscales this man don’t know that Saitama can’t be scaled bruh
😂 exactly
@@Mope333 “BUT GOKU BEAT-“ tf does that matter
Feats don’t cut it with Caped Baldy
@@kaedonhodges9014 Def don’t 😂 Saitama can bypass any opponent attacks no matter what
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@@kaedonhodges9014 caped baldy was made to be unbeatable. That’s fundamental to his character or atleast to his creation lol dude literally turns back in time (with Garous help)
give him a minute, with that god tier training routine its only a matter of time before he can take down goku. hes just gotta use god as a stepping stone
WC saitama outscaled dragon ball
Bro Saitama is like Spongebob His life he lives on the internet
Even Goku is not alive bruhhh
Oh he can slap goku around, even the next villains already can 😂.
cap
Bruh what? Dude is Planetary level and Goku in Base form is Solar level... I think you missed smth and it is prolly your brains XD
Cap so hard@@EDAnime1
@@KamilSzczygielski-u3b bro r u dumb one punch man manga is not even ended yet and you just assumed saitama is planetary level there is a villain called god in the series we can only get to know saitma's true strength when he faces god
@@EDAnime1he is capping dw
I’m so glad *RedHairedGuy* is getting reacted to more and more, his works are amazing and are always improving.
Honestly if JC staff is cooking with fairy tail I’m interested to see how they do one punch man. As a big fan of both series I do believe in the staff if given the correct amount of time.
Studio B Animation made an old but creative animation of Goku vs Sonic before MUI was a thing.
Naw Ed you villainous for that title lmao
you guys gotta trust JC they havnt been rushed as much this time, seadon three will be peak
Doesn't bro know season 2 was rushed like crazy jc staff had multiple animes to animate but this time they are only working on opm
And the entire trailer looks better than this
Both beats Goku
Bruh the debate between Saitama vs Goku .. forget about that The fact that Murata himself said that he will make god in OPM the strongest character in whole Anime/Manga History say's everything.. forget goku The Whole Verse of DB will fear Murata Himself for creating god 😂
he's got a long way to go if that's the case
@@liquid1514nope 😂 because look at Saitama
@@Mope333 my original comment still stands
@@liquid1514 But hold no weight, GOD is powerful asf right now as we speak and that’s just a small part of his power but true, I will agree because it’s true… there’s hella GODS out there that outshines him and been there and done that which what you may be saying or you’re just saying it’s just gonna take long etc
source?
Yes, he can
No he can’t 😂
@@Mope333 Saitama scales with power, no matter how strong goku is he will grow beyond him and he will win. Goku loses because he cant scale that fast. Its simple logic if you could only overcome your biases
@@sevenseven7990Goku blitzes before he even grows
@@Saitama_Opp Goku would let him reach full strength because thats just how goku handles things. He's cooked man sorry to tell you.
@@sevenseven7990 In power scaling, it’s simply one characters stats vs another
ATSERC has the best ANIMATION for these scene, sadly if they just continue it till the end.😬🔥
Whole planet? Nah, the whole galaxy would have popped.
i honestly think saitama would beat goku in my opinion only because of how saitama has limitless power where as goku has his limits the only thing goku would have an advantage in would be in martial arts skills and his ki but im was always wondering if goku were to train saitama to use ki how strong would he be
SAİTAMA BEST
Danmachi season 4 was really good so there is hope
Yes
1:21, 1:39 It could be, if J.C.Staff stopped taking on other projects like Fairy Tail & this new vampire foster home anime. Please, we do Not want 1 week breaks like MHA.
2:18 Only the viewers & Saitama's friends & colleagues know why Bang stayed down. And everyone else still don't know.
bro laughin for no reason
@@zeke_anime bro laughin for no reason
Jc staff will be fine, with enough time they will make it good.
With limitless power, strength, and durability scaling during the fight... He can definitely defeat Goku. But it depends if Saitama lets Goku rest for a week to obtain a new hair color.
@@AyamKRazy goku = limitless power, strength and durability 😂
@@EDAnime1is that a joke ?
@@Massi49 well no...we havent seen goku reach a limit at all lol as the series continues, he's only gotten stronger with the cast too
@@EDAnime1 well There is a difference between training every day and almost die every fight to evolve towards infinity and evolving towards infinity automatically and exponentially the second the opponent is at the level. don't you think?🤔
@@AyamKRazy knowing saitama, during the fight he is perfectly capable of waiting 1 or 2 hours while Goku go train in the room of spirit and time. just to make the fight even more exciting🤷♂️
Saitama is a 5D+++ beings
cool, Goku’s higher
@@Saitama_Opp not really
Saitama is pretty easy to beat just give him a coupon book.
are you serious? this animation is good, but jc staff was rushed, and even then season 2 was better than this. now, with a bigger budget, and time limit, they will definitely do better. and also, garou vs saitama can ABSOLUTELY not happen in season 3 unless its 24 episodes or more. (the seasons are usually 12). atp you just saying all this for user interaction
watch part 7 of goku vs saitama
@@Nemesis_HEX uploading now
3:16 but they arent. They are dead... All of them
atm saitama cant beat goku goku but empty void basically wipes over half of the dbs verse out
Saitama>>>>>>>>>>>>dbs univers
@@ruoldequafieat3463 fr
EV can beat Goku 😂
empty void gets dog walked by goku
@@Saitama_Opp Get him past Space first
can u watch the goku vs saitama fan animation from etiolic
PLEASE REACT TO MORE FAN ANIMATION
So, I don't know how the powerscaling works for OPM, but Goku is considered multiversal, and has even forced himself into the future (in the anime).
We all know that season 3's animation will be trash since it is the same studio as season 2. I hope they hand it back to the animation studio of season 1
People acting like season 2 was trash when it was decent lmao
@@ethan_redwind6766 don't get me wrong, I still watched it. Storywise, s2 is still fire. It's just that the animation is trash, especially the fight scenes, they're lame. Just frozen characters with moving backgrounds. Very disappointing.
Even the season 3 trailer that is a few seconds short, which they have a long time to improve the animation, cannot be compared to one of the fight scenes in season one. Say Genos vs Saitama as an example.
How the hell do you know it'll be trash when they actually have time to animate s3 instead of rushing it🤦♂️don't eat your own words now😂
@@DerriousGamez just look at the trailer, you mid anime watcher
He indeed cannot beat goku
Gets one shot in base :3
Nah saitama wins
@@GreenTeam-re3jy he gets outscaled in every category
@@NovaLuvsYou. but saying base is crazy saitama can quickly adapt anyway
@@GreenTeam-re3jy current base goku > bog ssg goku, current saitama caps at galaxy with his best feat being the clash with garou currently, rn in the story of opm theres no feat on par with the universal feat in the bog arc, hes dealt with people who can improve WAY faster then saitama and if he notices saitama growing in power hes not gonna let him surpass him, in character or not. Base goku currently outscales everything in opm except god if he created the universe, saitama will probably surpass him but currently goku outscales
@@NovaLuvsYou.Goku needs to power up (which takes a long ass time btw) just to punch a whole through matter. U think saitama is sweatin
Gonna post the comment here for those that want it, I feel I am well versed enough in both series to give a thorough answer to the question.
Saitama - Strength
First Saitama, currently, at his absolute most wanked extreme, is anywhere from multi-solar to multi-galaxy. That is very subjective on where you want to place him, but no higher than that.
This is due to a feat of him and garou clashing evenly creating a massive explosion, that leaves behind a void in space where stars used to be. Now this feat is somewhat contentious, but the general agreement on where it places him, is galaxy level.
For those that aren't aware, on earth there is only so many celestial bodies we can view, and the majority of those, are stars, 99% of the light sources to be specific, and are all centralised in a tiny region within our galaxy.
The other 1 percent are galaxies and nebulae, that is where the two galactic scales come in for him. If it happened to hit a nebula, then it would be a multi galaxy level feat, a galaxy obviously a singular galaxy level feat. There is also the fact that the blast could have easily destroyed more than what is shown. But that is impossible to prove on both ends.
One final thing to mention people will desperately attempt to say saitama is 4th dimensional. The 4D hyperspace gate is In and of itself, absurd. For those unaware, in Saitamas fight with Cosmic Fear Garou, Garou creates these constructs known as "Hyperspace" Gates. The importance behind this, is that a Hyperspace is defined as having more than 3 dimensions.
Now I despise dimensional tiering, as it makes the subject very unaproachable for newcomers, but as a quick explanation we exist in 3 dimensions: length, width and depth now imagine a 4th dimension, difficult because we can only comprehend 3. To make this simple, imagine the dynamic of a drawing and the person drawing it, the drawing is 2 dimensional, it cannot move on the z-axis, and us, as the 3rd dimensional beings, are both unnobservible to, and infinitely more powerful than the drawing we make, that is the general jist of how the system works.
The only way you can say the gates Garou summons are fourth dimensional, is through a naming fallacy, hyperspace CAN mean more than 3 dimensions yes. But it's also a massive science fiction term, and is often affiliated to either light speed based travel, star wars being a good example. Or in the case of cosmic garou, teleportation/portal creation. And nothing about them indicates higher dimensionality. All they are is a hole in space to travel between any 2 distances nearly instantaneously. Nothing else.
Goku - Strength - Lowball (this is for avid goku downplayers, and skip to the next segment if you don't want to read this.)
Goku on the other hand, the absolute bare minimum you can scale him to, is 104,000-1,040,000x universal by taking the lowest interpretation of the Dragon ball macrocosm being only 13 times bigger than our own universe, this is deathbattles first number for it btw. And using all of the canon multipliers for the transformations that being super saiyan 1-3 and kioken stacked on top. (The second number is due to whether or not you think grade 4, or mastered super saiyan is stronger than grade 3, which it definitely is btw, which is stated to be 10x the strength of ssj grade 1.)
Now this is me being extremely spiteful to goku, realistically, even his base massively outscales this, but first I need to touch on the common place goku downplay. The rock, the laser, and the bullet certainly haven't done his reputation any favours. The only inexcusable one to me is the bullet, but that is more applicable to supers horrible writing and consistency issues, but the general reasoning for these, is that Dragon ball characters can be compromised if they are A: known to hold back a lot, and B: are caught of guard. This is not applicable in this fight so whatever.
Another idiotic thong that people claim, is that you'd inability to withstand high temperatures and breath in space, is somehow indicative of his general competency, which I shouldn't even need to tell you is stupid.
Goku - Strength - Standard.
This is very consistent powerscaling for Goku, and is generally my approach to discussing him. In Goku's fight with beerus, by punching 3 times, they threatened to destroy the entire universe 7 macrocosm. Which contains within multiple infinite sized realms. And an arguable infinite 5th dimensional realm in the form of other world. The macrocosm is so vast, that when standing on grand kais planet, otherworld vanishes. This gives goku in base form, near irrefutable low complex multiversal (the ability to destroy an infinite 5D realm) attack potency. He becomes far. FAR stronger than this throughout super, and it is possible that by scaling to jiren, goku can be scaled to 6th dimensional, given jiren is described as transcending time itself, and in this level of power, transcending can be applied to dimensions of the other universes. But it's not something I agree with so I typically stick to high 5D for goku.
@@Crescence_ someone who knows ball 🫡
@@EDAnime1 it is what I do.
How is saitama being multi solar system to galaxy an absolute wanked extreme? It's been accepted as a Midball for saitama alot, now if you said multi galaxy or universal that I can see as an extreme wank