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  • @krisgibbon2199
    @krisgibbon2199 Рік тому +133

    You just couldn't help yourself with that skippity-bop, could you?

  • @jared4969
    @jared4969 Рік тому +167

    One cool modded one comes with the "Hazardous Reactors" mod, it's a "Crisis warhead" (you shove it into a normal warhead) it explodes and pulverizes anything around it, capable of one shoting anything in the game, the problem is, to get it you need to do a "Dry" (no water in the room) meltdown of your reactor with a Super-Critical Fulgarium fuel rod, which irradiates and instantly kills anything around it (without pucs) so yeah, pretty balanced I'd say.
    Great video as always.

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  Рік тому +41

      Wow, that actually cool idea to produce something nuclear using on-board reactor. (besides depleted fuel)

    • @theepicduck6922
      @theepicduck6922 Рік тому +33

      Gotta experience that nuclear blast headon first to reap the spoils.

    • @geemanamatin8383
      @geemanamatin8383 Рік тому +11

      Hm, the need for a high-qual fulgraium rod is prob the biggest counter-balance for the crisis. Otherwise, wats stopping someone from taking a pirate sub and just nuking their reactor and fixing it over and over again?

    • @jared4969
      @jared4969 Рік тому +10

      @@geemanamatin8383 the immense explosion and radiation fallout of the specific rod along with the incapability of transportation without a pucs suit (you'll only be able to wield it for a 30 seconds or so)

    • @Alpha1598753
      @Alpha1598753 Рік тому +2

      @@geemanamatin8383 Doesn't has to be fulgurium, its actually the incendium component that goes supercritical (the mod adds it and modify volatile rod to be a incendium/fulgurium amalgam) so incendium or volatile fulg both spawn the critical rod uppon a dry meltdown, main difference is a different texture and the volatile rod burning twice as long giving more time to carry it to a fabricator before condition drop below the crisis warhead requirement
      And as Jared stated the dry metldown of those rods are fatal to the sub, volatile fulg will blow up half the hull and kill all electronics within +50m
      Incendium basicaly instantly kill anything in a 10m radius and double the the explosion strength and range
      Both rods then emit a lethal heat AOE that will not only kill unprotected personnel in a matter of 7-10s but also burn the hull within 7m, also its a hot potato that goes nuclear when droped

  • @MrFroTW
    @MrFroTW Рік тому +100

    Kinda sad how IC-4 is outperformed by C-4. Guess I should just save them for Nuclear Shells.

    • @ericquinteiro2330
      @ericquinteiro2330 Рік тому +58

      The idea behind IC-4 is: "Big boom then Big fire"
      Problem is.
      Big Boom=Big Water

    • @awesomeguy1346
      @awesomeguy1346 Рік тому +8

      Pretty nice for pvp

  • @Bookslayer10
    @Bookslayer10 Рік тому +81

    This is exactly what I needed, the wikis are all outdated and I am deciding what ammo types to use in my campaign. Thank you for all the work you are doing!

  • @main135s
    @main135s Рік тому +11

    Thinking about the strength of the Railgun Shells relative to what each require, it's actually pretty interesting how good the Canister Shells are. They're relatively cheap to re-fill, so it's kind of hard to see a downside for their strength, but that downside is actually loading time.
    If you need to fire off your railgun, constantly, the Mechanic just being able to make a normal shell, run it, and load it while the next is crafting is super valuable when time is of the essence. Meanwhile, with the Canister Shells, someone has to remove it and run it to the fabricator and back. Just needing to remove it and take it to the fabricator effectively doubles (I think it's more like makes it take 1.4x longer, since the mechanic is still running back to the fabricator after loading the first shell, anyways) how long it takes to reload a Canister Shell.

  • @MessaTee
    @MessaTee Рік тому +26

    Genuine underrated channel. Cannot stress enough how informative this channel is, plus it has really funny content in it. Keep up the good work king!

  • @sentient9478
    @sentient9478 Рік тому +37

    This is exactly what I needed. It seems like the flak cannon can out-damage the railgun in most cases (obviously not with nukes).
    But it's good to know that the canister shell can be a viable and extremely cheap / efficient alternative with each shell only requiring a single lead to reload.
    Thanks for the video!

  • @stolaire
    @stolaire Рік тому +19

    Comparing to another heavy weapons it's unreasonably expensive if you're using common or physicorium shells, even with warheads, while nuclear shells are abnormally cheap to uranium: you don't need it for fuel rods, if you're not planning to deplete them or use as ammo for Fissile Accelerator, because you would rather use thorium or fulgurium, and fertilizer is not essential consumable.

  • @Holodechek
    @Holodechek Рік тому +8

    Спасибо автору, нигде не мог найти хорошее и удобное сравнение. Но вот нашел)

  • @MargootMC
    @MargootMC Рік тому +17

    Your videos are phenomenal

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  Рік тому +9

      You are phenomenal! And all my subscribers are)

  • @TheBritNips
    @TheBritNips Рік тому +25

    Can you do a full video on everything that works in the railgun ammo my friends think fuelrods add extra bang to the nuclear ammo and I'm sure frag grenades work also love your videos they're helping me so much since I'm new to barotrauma

    • @Cat-gamer96
      @Cat-gamer96 Рік тому +1

      It would be very cool, because I noticed that UEX damage on a larger wall goes to fire (which is useless under water), so I thought it was worth making a frag grenade out of it, but in practice it was impossible to measure the damage

    • @edtazrael
      @edtazrael Рік тому

      That sounds like a good idea.

    • @chadwickedralin40
      @chadwickedralin40 Рік тому +9

      Emp grenades in your railguns work wonders against enemy pirates if you have good knowledge of where their junction room is.

  • @oleksandr4371
    @oleksandr4371 Рік тому +5

    flak - best choise, railgun - one of the worst weapons (cheap shell? but you will need lots of them. nuclear shell top damage? require more then any other ammo, need to be used on large creature or meet the loss like 80% of potential damage and probably gonna nuke your own self).
    Railgun needs buff like collect some of used regular shells for reuse, self-destruction timer or explode if enemy near instead of dirrect hit or auto-targeting, increase amount of fragments from canisters or lowering cost of pruduction or increasing quantity of production (2 lead in 1 use to kill some creatures in small area? - regular coilgun with standart ammo would be a better choise for the cost)
    P.S. about double coilgun: explosive ammo is good, but has a few shots and can be used as regular only in lategame, while flak cannon can handle early, middle and end game without much resource draining, perhaps depleated and piarcing ammo need a little buff.

    • @蔡林翰-v2m
      @蔡林翰-v2m Рік тому +2

      看到那個爆炸了嗎? 就算不是核彈 還是有相當的爆炸範圍與傷害
      也許成本更高昂,但是軌道砲 有高射炮不能比的優勢,我相信高射炮有更好的泛用性但是不用詆毀軌道砲的戰力

  • @tedybear6592
    @tedybear6592 Рік тому +3

    Canister shells are insane early game. Being able to translate 1 lead into 1 rail gun shot is huge. Lead is cheap and plentiful and at alot of outposts

  • @CodexMadness
    @CodexMadness Рік тому +3

    i don't know why i just started laughing at 3:29
    i think it because i once used a nuclear shell on a crawler just because i had one laying around XD

  • @awesomeguy1346
    @awesomeguy1346 Рік тому +10

    I was thinking, why would anyone run the Rail gun over flak cannon now? Then you shot the nuke. I forgot about that xD

    • @dovahkat9635
      @dovahkat9635 Рік тому +10

      Standard shell: "For your eyes only"
      Flak cannon: "To whom it may concern"
      Nuclear shell: *"This is a public service announcement"*

  • @edtazrael
    @edtazrael Рік тому +2

    Thanks! I feel this was long overdue and clarified much. Really, thanks dude!

  • @luigisisti6812
    @luigisisti6812 Рік тому +4

    F#ck it, *puts Dirty bomb in a nuclear shell*.

  • @negisam9020
    @negisam9020 Рік тому +6

    what if you put a dirty bomb in a nuclear shell. do that make you a war crime?

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  Рік тому +11

      I think nuclear shell is already war crime... so its just doubles your prison term

  • @thanh8231
    @thanh8231 Рік тому +8

    One thing you forgot you actually can put frag grenade into the railgun shell

  • @lennic
    @lennic Рік тому +3

    tons of great uploads lately, great comparison like always

  • @蔡林翰-v2m
    @蔡林翰-v2m Рік тому +3

    第一階段,霰彈意外的有高效率(能穿透裝甲?)? C4 有更好的傷害能力? 還是UEX 有效實惠?
    敵人的裝甲值影響呢? 穿透性比較強的是哪一種?填裝鋼鐵或是其他材料會有效果嗎? 或者快速破壞外裝甲的能力??
    爆炸傷害對每一種生物的差異? 有裝甲的差異?
    我看到很多人用手榴彈當作爆炸物(UEX)替代品,真的有比較好嗎?
    看完之後我十分的好奇,非常好奇,我想知道更多細節

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  Рік тому +2

      uex>frag grenade 現在已經正式上線了,這遊戲 frag grenade = uex. C4 兩倍好 uex. 我會製作更多關於這個主題的視頻

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  Рік тому +2

      uex is better than frag grenade in structural damage but in creature damage uex = frag grenade. C4 twice as good as uex and has better radius. I will make more videos on this topic

  • @sturmmagnunstein1008
    @sturmmagnunstein1008 Рік тому +2

    Ah yes, i remember the day when i first launched a rail gun loaded with a dirty bomb straight into the hall of a poor, unsuspecting pirate warship. Needless to say they enjoy the crew now enjoy their new life with the fishes.

  • @ascspeedywalker4778
    @ascspeedywalker4778 Рік тому +3

    Might be good to mention most of the explosive compounds go boom when dropped

  • @chenchen6150
    @chenchen6150 Рік тому +5

    Ah Railgun it's funny you can litteraly put any explosive in it even stun and emp grenadej my favorite type of railgun is from modded one, heavy Railgun expensive to make but it does worth the mats although the lack of variety of the bullet (only 3 so far) kinda make me prefer stick with the normal one.

  • @comediccomrade5716
    @comediccomrade5716 Рік тому +1

    Double coil gun with the explosive ammo is probably my favorite weapon in the entire game. It’s just so reliable.

  • @misterymaster5678
    @misterymaster5678 Рік тому +6

    Quick question: Does it make any difference to load explosives into the nuclear railgun shell?
    PS: You got a new subscriber. I really like your content…

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  Рік тому

      there is no or very very little difference

  • @TheKimshot
    @TheKimshot Рік тому +1

    High quality content. Thank you for your time and effort

  • @ItsSilentMae
    @ItsSilentMae Рік тому +1

    3:32 the moment i saw the explosion I died and wanting that nuclear shells so bad now 😂🤣

  • @greytheraptor3695
    @greytheraptor3695 Рік тому +3

    If I can tag depth charges and syringes to be fired from rail guns. Does that mean I can tag railgun rounds to be fired from something more… handheld…

  • @深界五層提督
    @深界五層提督 Рік тому +7

    how about using frag grenades other than C4?

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  Рік тому +6

      hmm🤔, I think if you already have frag grenades, you can put it in shells, but if you crafting its better to choose c4 for more damage

  • @genericname1999
    @genericname1999 Рік тому +2

    you can put fulgurium in a nuke shell and it seems to work well

  • @mayconbodanese7423
    @mayconbodanese7423 Рік тому +2

    Very good video mate :D

  • @banansa4778
    @banansa4778 Рік тому +1

    6:00 well it was nice knowing you......☠️

  • @darkarm333
    @darkarm333 Рік тому +1

    I was curious how the explosive interaction works with higher quality C-4, UE-X and IC-4 (good quality,masterwork etc.), because when we play we always craft the highest quality C-4 we can, and if it works in the situation with the Moloch it would probably kill in 3 shots instead of 4, Just beating out the explosive coilgun rounds right?

  • @autodidacte4528
    @autodidacte4528 Рік тому +1

    That nuclear shell made me laugh so hard

  • @витясимченко
    @витясимченко Рік тому +1

    Hey, you forget to put dirty bomb into a nuclear shell :D

  • @koribokki2234
    @koribokki2234 Рік тому

    heard a rumor somewhere that if you put clown equipment like the outfits or bike horns in a shell and shoot it, it provides psychosis when used against an enemy crew. no idea if true.

  • @iceball3xd
    @iceball3xd Рік тому

    Have you done a video testing frag grenades or similar as a railgun payload? Most of the grenades are slightly redundant, but frag is rather spicy by virtue of how heavily it bleed procs. Not sure if it'd be competitive compared to canister though.

  • @Ribbons0121R121
    @Ribbons0121R121 8 місяців тому

    you missed that you can put mini nukes inside the railgun shell

  • @codeplayer8575
    @codeplayer8575 Рік тому +1

    Amazing vid!

  • @jeraldperkson255
    @jeraldperkson255 Рік тому +1

    What about unstable compound N? I’d assume it’s a more explosive version with more damage and bigger radius.

    • @dovahkat9635
      @dovahkat9635 Рік тому +1

      Unstable N is the same as regular, it difference is that unstable automatically degrades on its own until it explodes.
      Think of it like a time bomb, except the timer starts as soon as you craft it. *And there is no way to stop it.*

    • @jeraldperkson255
      @jeraldperkson255 Рік тому

      @@dovahkat9635 Alright, thanks.

  • @con5532
    @con5532 Рік тому +1

    RIP castle doctorine

  • @вадимшмулевич
    @вадимшмулевич Рік тому

    You can put fuel tanks into shells and it will explode in a small radius

  • @sleihbeggey1992
    @sleihbeggey1992 9 місяців тому

    So what exactly is IC-4 supposed to be doing to justify the entire piece of Incendium it takes to convert C-4 into it?

  • @dsshindig14
    @dsshindig14 Рік тому

    Actually we can load a frag grenade inside one instead of UEX to get greater effects.

  • @lordkoth6735
    @lordkoth6735 Рік тому

    Nukes got a huge buff back beforehand the phyconium was flat better

  • @julianmillen1207
    @julianmillen1207 Рік тому +1

    I just hate railguns because they take so much managment and have to reload after every shot, i just want to slap a box of ammo in the loader and go to town

  • @brodypullishy932
    @brodypullishy932 Рік тому +2

    No Frags?

  • @alphakevin3153
    @alphakevin3153 Рік тому +1

    Might be alot to ask...but can you do the samw with the light weapons?

  • @internetuser7119
    @internetuser7119 Рік тому

    whats the hull penetration on railgun ammo? can in theory a physicorium shell go thru a pirate ship? want to know this cuz i need a way of killing all pirates on a gun deck but leaving their sub mostly intact

  • @samham7703
    @samham7703 10 місяців тому

    you forgot the dirty bomb

  • @renatogomezfaundez8019
    @renatogomezfaundez8019 Рік тому

    sad that the flak canon out preforms everything

  • @Nodwick123
    @Nodwick123 Рік тому

    wish you would do same video fir the EK mod shells.

  • @Minedeployder
    @Minedeployder Рік тому

    Thats crazy how much railgun is an outdated thing.
    Cons: cost way too much even without c-4, difficult to shoot, bad dps\burst
    Pros: Nuclear shell

    • @Minedeployder
      @Minedeployder Рік тому +1

      Btw how is "canister shell" considered as "cheap"? It is super expensive, cause all of the plumbum turns into firearm ammo and you will still be lack of it.

    • @lennic
      @lennic Рік тому

      @@Minedeployder with the rework of crafting recipes and costs I think it'll be "cheap", honestly anything railgun related isn't efficient at all, only nuclear shells are efficient sadly enough

    • @Minedeployder
      @Minedeployder Рік тому

      @@lennic they gonna rework it again? Railgun is cool, at least, fun to use, if you know what i mean)

  • @SonicSonedit
    @SonicSonedit Рік тому

    No nuke in damage comparison with other guns?

  • @agentpea4493
    @agentpea4493 2 місяці тому

    how do you get so much ammo in the railgun?

  • @skilledspacepolice6003
    @skilledspacepolice6003 Рік тому

    where is the volitile compound-N

  • @loyso9171
    @loyso9171 Рік тому

    Since one can put frag grenades inside shells AND they have similar crafting cost, I wonder, would they be outright better than C4?

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  Рік тому

      No, C4 is better

    • @loyso9171
      @loyso9171 Рік тому

      @@InitialDesu woah, thanks for the reply! It'd be really awesome if you could take a moment and elaborate on this

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  Рік тому +2

      ​@@loyso9171 c4 has better creature damage and structure damage. If you have a lot of grenades you can put them in railgun shell to make it dealing slightly more damage that empty. But grenade is not an alternative to c4 because of worse capabilites. If crafting explosives for railgun from scratch I will choose c4. I prefer using granades as intended - killing living force and clearing outposts.

    • @loyso9171
      @loyso9171 Рік тому +2

      @@InitialDesu Thanks for the insights!

  • @boon1580
    @boon1580 Рік тому +1

    are the c-4 or ic-4 masterwork quality? difference btwn normal and masterwork is very substantial. in campaign if u reached zone3 u are pretty much guaranteed to be able to make those so its not a rare thing.

  • @dazedream2392
    @dazedream2392 Рік тому

    Does adding explosives in the nuke shells make any difference?

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  Рік тому

      The nuclear explosion itself will be the same but there will be second weaker explosion of something that you put it shell

  • @mikaidaniels5107
    @mikaidaniels5107 Рік тому

    How big and much damage would a grenade do if put into a shell?

  • @PapaDanielssss
    @PapaDanielssss Рік тому

    Whats the name of the background music

  • @TheRyderShotgunn
    @TheRyderShotgunn Рік тому

    does emp grenade in railgun shell work?

  • @khanhquocoan4782
    @khanhquocoan4782 Рік тому

    revolver and nuke use?

  • @Tolwrath
    @Tolwrath Рік тому

    But how does railgun shell + frag grenade stack up?

  • @randomspaceman3732
    @randomspaceman3732 Рік тому

    what about grenades in railgun shells?

    • @randomspaceman3732
      @randomspaceman3732 Рік тому

      also can't we put things inside of the nuclear shell aswell?

  • @bignut8466
    @bignut8466 Рік тому

    Why didn’t you cover fusion shells.

    • @InitialDesu
      @InitialDesu  Рік тому

      what

    • @bignut8466
      @bignut8466 Рік тому

      @@InitialDesu just realized this is probably part of ek mods pack or smth

  • @dorpsdors8564
    @dorpsdors8564 Рік тому

    How do you have many shells?

  • @TheDickstaple
    @TheDickstaple Рік тому

    So wait, would putting C-4 inside a nuclear shell be the optimal damage output of that shell ? Or does putting anything inside a nuke do nothing ?