Price will drop fast on this. Went from $120k last year to $60k this year. I suspect $30k, the $20k, then $10k, then $5k, then $3k, $2k, $1500, then $1000. Basically in 8 years, I’ll buy one!
The bigger brakes are the companies behind...Due to Their massive investment in billion $ factories for big panels, their investments must be profitable first... If no one gets ahead of them, they will take their time unless customers refuse to buy their current ranges. This technology is expected to be cheaper to produce, so it's just the future, which they reject far away
I need this in europe!!! You guys are skipping europe for now but custom integration here is a great market. And we as a company need this type of products fast!
@@JilesMcCoy How could it not? Aspect ratio is contained in the format. So if a widescreen movie comes on you want the screen to get bigger, not smaller - at the same height. Easily done with my projector.
@@geickmei How could it not change the aspect ratio of incoming content? What are you wanting to do, non linear stretch maybe? Usually you use a madVR to do that kind of video processing.
@@JilesMcCoy This is getting silly. First you tell me that you are not sure it will alter the aspect ratio, then you say you are not sure how it could NOT alter it. Let's start over. When I am projecting a 16:9 normal screen it has a certain height and width. When a widescreen movie comes on I can use the motorized lens to zoom it up to fill the screen again at the same height, but wider. Can a video wall do that as well?
@@geickmei A video wall does not have a lens. Its not a projector. You can use the LED wall processor to scale an image larger or smaller, but Im not sure if it will be able to alter the aspect ratio if you are seeking to do that. Changing the aspect ratio (converting 16:9 to 2.4:1 for example) and the "size" of a fixed aspect ratio in the confines of the screen are 2 different things. Ultimately, if you are asking if there is a solution where you can have a scope aspect screen (21:9 ish in LED wall world) without big black bars on the top or bottom, yes, you can do that. But its not the same methodology of zooming in a projector so you have massive overscan on the top and bottom.
@@JilesMcCoyI would like to applaud you for your reply to the comment posted. Generally replies are dismissive, sarcastic or attacking. Creators and business owners should learn from this as you have retained rather than alienated this or other potential customers.
No one? Not every lives paycheck to paycheck like you. The cost of this is what I make in about 3 weeks. You are the one who chooses to get paid a crappy wage.
@@brucef310only some pissant punk would make such a comment. And you don’t make that type of money and you never will. Mommy’s calling you bc she made your lunch.
@@justvideowalls Thanks very much for the additional info! Is it possible to build a custom 163" microled with an 8k resolution and a lower pixel pitch? What's the price for something like this?
@@Bboyy333 Not today, that will be a future leap but definitely more costly. We can go a bit tighter today than 0.9 but it's still in development to get all the bugs out. The longevity and reliability for that tight isn't there yet, in our opinion.
Theatre is a dark room when lights are off. So In complete dark room LED light emitted from LED walls will damage eyes after repeated viewing...in future.. While silver screens will absorb and then reflect a portion of absorbed light that is safe for eyes in a dark room.
That's a valid point. I have no doubt that this display technology is the future especially for bright environments. But how does it hold up for movie watching in a light-controlled/dark room? Is a reflective as opposed to an emissive display technology not better able to capture the magic of the silver screen? People tend to rave about Oleds as providing the best image quality at an affordable price but to me it still very much feels likes watching a TV.
I looked into this. Way Way too expensive. It costs much as a brand new luxury car. Perhaps in 5-10 years, it will be the same cost as a screen and projector.
I have a few 84 inch Samsung TVs that I bought for 6500$ max and it even comes with free Samsung TV that includes international channels like mHz with European TV shows the price point is really high I could pay 10k or maybe even 15k but 63k come on you add another 30 k and get a gmc hummer EV or a sick Cybertruck why buy this ? Btw when you spend over 5k with Samsung the remote control is really sick it's all metal aluminum only a few buttons but one button is to slide the battery compartment can you believe that a button to eject the battery box ?
all the comment section taking about how expensive this is… it’s a 150 to 200 inch tv…. that’s huge!!! of course it’s going to be expensive… it went from 200k to 60k and your still complaining…
Gah, prob another 5-10yrs for prices to come done for actual consumers... not high end like this. 70k is still too high for a tv. mass Consumers need tvs under 10k, I mean if they offered 120inch ish for 9k would would be awesome...
That would be awesome. I fully expect LED walls to drop hugely in price with the mounting and processors get figured out. 3k for a 150” screen should be easily attainable.
Back in early 2000s (late 90s?)I remember people buying Faroudja line doublers projector processors for giant money. $20k+? So long ago I can't remember. But anyhow, that was a processor to double 540 SD into 1080i right? Then along came line quadruplers for $30k+? Well, my point is we've come a long way for the quality we get for our money. My first TV I bought around 1999 was a $1000 32inch 4:3 SD CRT Toshiba 80lb 3 foot deep Box. Let's appreciate where we are today.
You are correct my friend! Definitely not every projector for sure, but the higher end and ultra-high end projectors, we have a highly competitive option. I'm a big projection fan (was in that side of the industry for 7 years) and I really love reflected light. But direct-view is unlike anything i've seen. It's a true upgrade to great contrast and no-compromises. Projection will always exist - at a entry price-point and a portable solution for a "big image". But this is for sure the future
BWAHAHAHA he is excited to announce that they got the cost down to $60-$70k. Yeah because that really makes a difference to anyone who could actually afford this.
@@JilesMcCoy IF there was something to watch. Have not watched broadcast much in over 30 years. Don't have cable and stream on occasion. Have a 50 inch LG OLED, an older B-3 model, their first one what was not curved. Have not turned that on in months.
Horrible business model. To purchase their products you have to go thru one of their dealers. Their website states "we want to take care of our dealers" Their dealers influence/ set the sale price. Good luck with getting any kind of support once you buy this.
all the comment section taking about how expensive this is… it’s a 150 to 200 inch tv…. that’s huge!!! of course it’s going to be expensive… it went from 200k to 60k and your still complaining…
He says 2023 at the beginning, but this is indeed the 2024 edition :-)
Haha yeah sorry for the date flub 😂
Awesome !!!
@@justvideowallsHow does the Lunar Ledge handle low APL scenes? Does it crush blacks like mini-LEDs and most OLEDs?
Price will drop fast on this. Went from $120k last year to $60k this year. I suspect $30k, the $20k, then $10k, then $5k, then $3k, $2k, $1500, then $1000. Basically in 8 years, I’ll buy one!
We can hope!
The bigger brakes are the companies behind...Due to Their massive investment in billion $ factories for big panels, their investments must be profitable first...
If no one gets ahead of them, they will take their time unless customers refuse to buy their current ranges.
This technology is expected to be cheaper to produce, so it's just the future, which they reject far away
Dude in 8 year's there will be 16k xxl full 360 digital nano led Ai eyeballs 😂
@@Ourathe7thcolumn I hope so!
Wow, you’re a real mathematician !!!!😂
It’s crazy that none of the other content creators have posted videos on this. This is incredible.
Please share if you like it!
Thanks for sharing. That is absolutely amazing!
Glad you like it. This is on my list too!
You lost me at $60K!!!LOL!!! You had me for 10 Seconds.
The hope is that next year it will be 30k!
@@JilesMcCoy What's different next year that enables a 50% price drop?
Awesome video Jiles! Really appreciate seeing you again this year 🎉
Great to see you and the new products!
I need this in europe!!! You guys are skipping europe for now but custom integration here is a great market. And we as a company need this type of products fast!
This needs to be everywhere!
Wow thats amazing !!!!!!!!!
100%
Can you zoom the image up and down for regular or widescreen to get any aspect ratio you want with constant height?
You can scale for sure. Not sure it will alter aspect ratio though.
@@JilesMcCoy How could it not? Aspect ratio is contained in the format. So if a widescreen movie comes on you want the screen to get bigger, not smaller - at the same height. Easily done with my projector.
@@geickmei How could it not change the aspect ratio of incoming content? What are you wanting to do, non linear stretch maybe? Usually you use a madVR to do that kind of video processing.
@@JilesMcCoy This is getting silly. First you tell me that you are not sure it will alter the aspect ratio, then you say you are not sure how it could NOT alter it.
Let's start over. When I am projecting a 16:9 normal screen it has a certain height and width. When a widescreen movie comes on I can use the motorized lens to zoom it up to fill the screen again at the same height, but wider. Can a video wall do that as well?
@@geickmei A video wall does not have a lens. Its not a projector. You can use the LED wall processor to scale an image larger or smaller, but Im not sure if it will be able to alter the aspect ratio if you are seeking to do that. Changing the aspect ratio (converting 16:9 to 2.4:1 for example) and the "size" of a fixed aspect ratio in the confines of the screen are 2 different things. Ultimately, if you are asking if there is a solution where you can have a scope aspect screen (21:9 ish in LED wall world) without big black bars on the top or bottom, yes, you can do that. But its not the same methodology of zooming in a projector so you have massive overscan on the top and bottom.
I want this in my forever home, but at 300 inches !!!
Me too!
What's the input lag on these and at what resolution and refresh rate? In other words, for a hardcore gamer
That’s a great question. I hope to test one day!
love it. want it really bad
Me too
That’s Awesome👍🏻👍🏻
For sure!
do you offer these outside the US like spain? if so who would install on site?
If you need help drop me a note via the link in the notes.
It's a beautiful product, but what's the power consumption compared to a projector. The one disadvantage is you can't put speakers behind it.
Its more power than a projector for sure. There are solutions for the speakers.
The link above called “Get Yours” is not working. I got a 403 error.
This link? jiles.link/GetYours
@@JilesMcCoy Yes, but I tried on a second device and it went through, thanks!
What the price of the 1:1 art frame you have in the video?
Hit me in my request link in the notes if you are interested in a purchase.
Do you have a link to the nano-black optics technology. If it's similar to LG magnit black coating I'll rather get just video walls for much cheaper.
I dont have a link for that :-(
@@JilesMcCoy yes their website is terrible and mostly for being a custom installer not a direct customer.
Still no one is going to be able to afford that in this economy, I personally would not pay more than $1,000 for a good size smart tv
You can do that. Get a sweet 65" for that price now. For 2500 you can get a 98"
@@JilesMcCoyI would like to applaud you for your reply to the comment posted. Generally replies are dismissive, sarcastic or attacking. Creators and business owners should learn from this as you have retained rather than alienated this or other potential customers.
No one? Not every lives paycheck to paycheck like you. The cost of this is what I make in about 3 weeks. You are the one who chooses to get paid a crappy wage.
@@brucef310only some pissant punk would make such a comment. And you don’t make that type of money and you never will. Mommy’s calling you bc she made your lunch.
This is Amazing. What is the pixel pitch for the 60-70k lunar walls by just video walls shown in the 1st minute of this video?
I think its described in the video.
Oops my bad! 163"
The 136" LEDGE is a 0.7 virtual pixel (v-shift) and the 163" is a 0.9 virtual
@@justvideowalls Thanks very much for the additional info! Is it possible to build a custom 163" microled with an 8k resolution and a lower pixel pitch? What's the price for something like this?
@@Bboyy333 Not today, that will be a future leap but definitely more costly. We can go a bit tighter today than 0.9 but it's still in development to get all the bugs out. The longevity and reliability for that tight isn't there yet, in our opinion.
It’s not native 4K, it’s 2k and they are using pixel shifting, that’s why it’s cheap in quality and price.
Depends on the panel. Many are native 4k. But you can build in lower res as well.
Let us know when it closes in on $1000
Will do. 2025 should see a 50% reduction in price.
@@JilesMcCoy Realistically I'd spend 4k for s system like this if it had a solid warranty.
@@Virtual-Media Lets see what 2025 brings us.
Theatre is a dark room when lights are off.
So In complete dark room LED light emitted from LED walls will damage eyes after repeated viewing...in future..
While silver screens will absorb and then reflect a portion of absorbed light that is safe for eyes in a dark room.
Only because you are forced to use projection technology. Design will change with technology.
That's a valid point. I have no doubt that this display technology is the future especially for bright environments. But how does it hold up for movie watching in a light-controlled/dark room? Is a reflective as opposed to an emissive display technology not better able to capture the magic of the silver screen? People tend to rave about Oleds as providing the best image quality at an affordable price but to me it still very much feels likes watching a TV.
Wow, are these priced at an acceptable price?
Much less than last year... but acceptable is up to you.
Wow awesome price but just not affordable for me at this point
I cant wait for even lower prices!
how much would a 217" 4k 1.2mm 60hz cost?
Hit me up with my notes link if you are serious about making a purchase.
I'm noticing a lot of magenta in the corners it's possible that it just might be the footage but either way it's there.
Its my camera. You have to see screens with your eyes to evaluate their quality.
With this price trend it will be just a few years until these will start to be within reach of average consumers.
I agree. This is outstanding news too.
Damn... while 60k is a great price for this its sometimes hard to justify because 6 months later this could literally be like 10k... hmm
Maybe 6 years later. But it could be 40k in a year.
I looked into this. Way Way too expensive. It costs much as a brand new luxury car. Perhaps in 5-10 years, it will be the same cost as a screen and projector.
Price dropped 50% from last year. Let’s hope the trend continues.
I have a few 84 inch Samsung TVs that I bought for 6500$ max and it even comes with free Samsung TV that includes international channels like mHz with European TV shows the price point is really high I could pay 10k or maybe even 15k but 63k come on you add another 30 k and get a gmc hummer EV or a sick Cybertruck why buy this ? Btw when you spend over 5k with Samsung the remote control is really sick it's all metal aluminum only a few buttons but one button is to slide the battery compartment can you believe that a button to eject the battery box ?
You just need to wait a few years then.
За такие деньги можно сделать стену с плёнкой обратной проекции и несколько проекторов сзади ультрокороткофокусных поставить
Yes, but the picture quality is much lower that way.
We now have everything in Fahrenheit 451, except for the nuclear ending.
I should re read that one.
all the comment section taking about how expensive this is…
it’s a 150 to 200 inch tv…. that’s huge!!! of course it’s going to be expensive… it went from 200k to 60k and your still complaining…
And it will drop lower in 2025!
Gah, prob another 5-10yrs for prices to come done for actual consumers... not high end like this. 70k is still too high for a tv.
mass Consumers need tvs under 10k,
I mean if they offered 120inch ish for 9k would would be awesome...
That would be awesome. I fully expect LED walls to drop hugely in price with the mounting and processors get figured out. 3k for a 150” screen should be easily attainable.
@@JilesMcCoy Are you able to share a breakdown of what portion of [let's say] $70k goes towards the panels, processors, mounting, etc?
70 k wish i had that much to waste
I cant wait for it to drop even more! Its just a matter of time!
@@JilesMcCoy yeah probly around 10 years or so
c8 corvette, or a tv..lol
@@Crimsonoverlord. If you can afford one you can probably afford both :-)
@@Crimsonoverlord. I am guessing huge drops in 5 years or less.
I’ll just stick to my 65 inch tv 😂
Step up to a 100" at least!
@@JilesMcCoy Hisense of tcl I think offered the 100 inch but I don’t trust those brands.
Only 60,0000😅😅😅 he's crazy
You should have heard the price last year...
Back in early 2000s (late 90s?)I remember people buying Faroudja line doublers projector processors for giant money. $20k+? So long ago I can't remember. But anyhow, that was a processor to double 540 SD into 1080i right? Then along came line quadruplers for $30k+? Well, my point is we've come a long way for the quality we get for our money.
My first TV I bought around 1999 was a $1000 32inch 4:3 SD CRT Toshiba 80lb 3 foot deep Box. Let's appreciate where we are today.
*Hospitality
Hospitality!
image when it breaks, lol
Dont say that!
No, no we would not be talking about a $200,000 price point on this. YOU may be talking about it, but WE are not.
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🥰
I like it too!
“Our TV’s are no longer at an expensive price point, it’s only $70,000.00 dollars, very affordable to all”….really???🤦🏻♂️
To be fair they have dropped in price by almost half in a year.
Web os would be an absolute prerequisite.
How about Google?
Has anyone here read Fahrenheit 451.
I read the DragonLance Chronicles.
So 60k$. Is same as projector for you? Mk...😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Its much less than many projectors. Just depends on what you want.
Maybe an inexpensive projector ;-)
@@JilesMcCoy like epson QL7000? 10000 lumen at 28.000$.... 😂
@@JilesMcCoymany projectors? Probably 99% projectors cost less.
You are correct my friend! Definitely not every projector for sure, but the higher end and ultra-high end projectors, we have a highly competitive option. I'm a big projection fan (was in that side of the industry for 7 years) and I really love reflected light. But direct-view is unlike anything i've seen. It's a true upgrade to great contrast and no-compromises. Projection will always exist - at a entry price-point and a portable solution for a "big image". But this is for sure the future
That’s awesome…. It’s too bad there is NOTHING to watch… just crap and crappy commercials
What kind of shows do you like?
$70K?!? Well hell let me pull out my wallet. Also, take out a home equity loan, sell my first born, not eat for a year, sell blood…
Just think of your reaction to last year's cost!
Get better cheaper ones in China
Which brands do you suggest?
Oh wow, cool.Look at that sixty thousand dollars , i'm out
:-)
BWAHAHAHA he is excited to announce that they got the cost down to $60-$70k. Yeah because that really makes a difference to anyone who could actually afford this.
Dude, a 50% drop in price in a year is a big deal! If that continues for 4 years... we are at like 5k for this set.
lol..Samsung give up on dat display why you still continue promoting dat display ? nobody buying dat lol..
They would not be in business if no one was buying.
Yeah once he said for only $50-$60 thousand I stopped listening
Don’t watch the one from last year. It was way higher just a year ago.
HARD PASS! Not into TEE VEE of any size.
Bummer, its stunning.
@@JilesMcCoy IF there was something to watch. Have not watched broadcast much in over 30 years. Don't have cable and stream on occasion. Have a 50 inch LG OLED, an older B-3 model, their first one what was not curved. Have not turned that on in months.
80000,- €😂😂😂
and dropping!
Horrible business model. To purchase their products you have to go thru one of their dealers. Their website states "we want to take care of our dealers" Their dealers influence/ set the sale price. Good luck with getting any kind of support once you buy this.
This is the standard business model for this kind of thing. It’s a CI product.
@@JilesMcCoy True. Its a closed loop. Hopefully big tech companies like Sony and Samsung can start mass producing these and dump them at BestBuy.
all the comment section taking about how expensive this is…
it’s a 150 to 200 inch tv…. that’s huge!!! of course it’s going to be expensive… it went from 200k to 60k and your still complaining…
And it will drop lower in 2025!