Loss Prevention | Spelunky 2 (Episode 59)

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  • Опубліковано 10 лис 2020
  • Spelunky 2 is out on PS4 now: www.playstation.com/en-ca/gam...
    and on Steam on Sept 29th: store.steampowered.com/app/41...
    I got pretty good at Spelunky but Spelunky 2 is a whole different ball game. Join me as I try to unravel the mysteries of the moon, and defeat Olmec and conquer the dungeons all over again!
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    About this game:
    Spelunky 2 builds upon the unique, randomized challenges that made the original a roguelike classic, offering a huge adventure designed to satisfy players old and new. Meet the next generation of explorers as they find themselves on the Moon, searching for treasure and missing family.
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  • @Drakes4tion2
    @Drakes4tion2 3 роки тому +193

    Bombing Monty into the spikes was true comedic timing

    • @jamesta08
      @jamesta08 3 роки тому +11

      i frickin' lost it when he panned the camera down LOL

    • @SlavaRybka
      @SlavaRybka 3 роки тому +7

      The arrow blown by the bomb the ended up passing a pixel above his head at the exact time had the potential to make it even better

    • @nosir5596
      @nosir5596 3 роки тому +2

      I fucking died lmao

    • @dasbooterror
      @dasbooterror 3 роки тому +4

      that slight expression change when he realized his 200 IQ Eggbrain play, priceless.

  • @fable23
    @fable23 3 роки тому +82

    That comedy of errors starting with NL deciding to respect Yang and let him live and ending with him crushing Yang into a pulp and eating all three of his pets... that's some premium, grade A, USDA choice Spelunky 2 right there, I tell you what.

  • @KevinAccetta
    @KevinAccetta 3 роки тому +120

    They really should make the Kali altar and shops spawn on the sides of the map on the drill level...

  • @TwistedAttitudes
    @TwistedAttitudes 3 роки тому +63

    NL talking about how much he hates the drill because of Lava falling on his head, and then Kali and The shopkeeper getting pissed off as if to prove his point was great

  • @tzoanast1061
    @tzoanast1061 3 роки тому +47

    That moment when you're watching, you're like "Yeah, this isn't going that bad", and then the next video pops up on the right side...oh boy the heart rate.

  • @rodion1056
    @rodion1056 3 роки тому +14

    You know what they say: An ounce of Rome is worth two in the bush

    • @Tubeytime
      @Tubeytime 3 роки тому

      underrated comment

  • @YTDaimera
    @YTDaimera 3 роки тому +13

    "There's only one Yang" inb4 Derek updates the game so killing Yang means you get to meet Yang's entire family of brothers also named Yang and they're all very unhappy with you.

  • @shirobuta_
    @shirobuta_ 3 роки тому +48

    Tired dad phrase #69: prevention is worth an ounce of cure.

  • @Gohmenasai
    @Gohmenasai 3 роки тому +123

    Egg, here's a tip for finding the Black Market.
    The Black Market only spawns on 2-2, 2-3, and 2-4.
    If there is a Moon Challenge on one of the above levels, then there will be no Black Market on that same level.
    Hope this helps!

    • @Old_Salt
      @Old_Salt 3 роки тому +2

      Music also change

    • @00dude3
      @00dude3 3 роки тому +3

      Also to add monty will always be in the black market on those floors, so if he's visible it's not that level

    • @Scroolewse
      @Scroolewse 3 роки тому +2

      I think he knows this now but not at time of recording. So many people have posted this in the comments I figure he must have seen it.

  • @vermesam
    @vermesam 3 роки тому +269

    Northernlion, I would like to refer you to Spelunky 2 Co-op with Northernlion [Episode 1] by Kate LovelyMomo. At 18:30 you die to a falling block in a moon challenge.

    • @UAintDeletingThis1
      @UAintDeletingThis1 3 роки тому +83

      Insane Gaming Dad bodied by facts and logic.

    • @vynashe4442
      @vynashe4442 3 роки тому +3

      Can confirm.

    • @bobbypetrelli6844
      @bobbypetrelli6844 3 роки тому +8

      Does stage 1 Olmec count as a falling block?

    • @EldritchGoddess
      @EldritchGoddess 3 роки тому +4

      its people like you that absolutely amaze me, i can remember *if* something happens, but that specific shit is so far beyond me

    • @xDasterrx
      @xDasterrx 3 роки тому +2

      @@EldritchGoddess he probably remembered that nl got crushed and just looked it up again

  • @jacobalbasha5734
    @jacobalbasha5734 3 роки тому +46

    Just had a dream EnEl audibly raged at a death that woke up the baby and thusly angered Kate. I woke up laughing, fear the baby.

    • @nishirahman1646
      @nishirahman1646 3 роки тому +7

      this is the most cursed NL spelling I've seen yet good job sir

    • @lolatomroflsinnlos
      @lolatomroflsinnlos 3 роки тому +9

      *You have angered Kate!*
      She seems very angry with you.

  • @fable23
    @fable23 3 роки тому +6

    Vlad's Cape has some pretty great upsides, but I think the best thing about it is it's lack of downsides; it doesn't burn or explode. With any of the other back items, if you get _touched_ by fire, you're losing the item at the very least, and in most cases you're probably dead because you got blown to kingdom come. Vlad's Cape doesn't need to worry about any of that. It sticks with you even if you kill yourself (if you have the Ankh).

  • @fsen1999
    @fsen1999 3 роки тому +76

    indiemaus real quiet about volcania on this vid

  • @ashardalondragnipurake
    @ashardalondragnipurake 3 роки тому +5

    shopkeeper forgiveness is dereks greatest joke

  • @colinpaton3304
    @colinpaton3304 3 роки тому +51

    Yo when he creamed Yang my gourd pogged right out of the stratosphere

  • @gokunorris5351
    @gokunorris5351 3 роки тому +12

    That first turkey floor was one of the most hilarious things I have seen from this series.

  • @Zanaki113
    @Zanaki113 3 роки тому +7

    Everytime I hear him say "we're going to Volcana" I get excited, and then every single time I notice the video ends within 9 minutes... >>

  • @foulenext
    @foulenext 3 роки тому +79

    Definitely had a block crushing death on a moon challenge. Pogged anyway

    • @AlColossus
      @AlColossus 3 роки тому +16

      Yeah pretty sure it was on Kate's co-op vids, the man's memory has been erased by pog

    • @flonrins
      @flonrins 3 роки тому +8

      I know malf got crushed in coop in the moon challenge

  • @davimachadosilvestrin138
    @davimachadosilvestrin138 3 роки тому +11

    That drill was extremely cursed they really should make it so no shops or altars can spawn on it's path.

  • @SamuelVoss
    @SamuelVoss 3 роки тому +6

    Man, I have to be honest I miss the Vulkania. Way cooler and it just makes me sad hearing you say it the other way now.

  • @thewickedtyrant8306
    @thewickedtyrant8306 3 роки тому +4

    You don't need to use the drill, if you find a spike ball trap you can use that to burrow down, or use 6-7 bombs if necessary, so its nice to scope out the drills path and weigh the risks first, personally if i see any lava that's a no go for me, if I see kali or shop thats a no go.
    As a side note if you use those crush traps at the bottom of the level, I typically go till about 2 minutes on the clock before finishing with bombs if I need to

  • @jaredprovost2002
    @jaredprovost2002 3 роки тому +1

    That moment where yang got caught in the faintest web and spared you with 1 health was definitely one for the greatest moments compilation

  • @SmiteTheJinx
    @SmiteTheJinx 3 роки тому +3

    My man has PTSD and repressed memories from being crushed by blocks in Spelunky 2

  • @LjariusSneedFitnessOfficial
    @LjariusSneedFitnessOfficial 3 роки тому +5

    lmao NL "everyone else is on that nate silver model"

  • @Jade-tr4ee
    @Jade-tr4ee 3 роки тому +2

    this is probably the most cursed episode i've seen in a while

  • @Ardokaath
    @Ardokaath 3 роки тому +1

    HE SAID VOLCANA! I never thought I'd see the day! Thank you Eggdaddy, I can rest untilted today.

  • @softwaffle8535
    @softwaffle8535 3 роки тому +11

    Day can’t be blessed without that fresh AYE EVERYBODY. Thank you.

  • @shirobuta_
    @shirobuta_ 3 роки тому +15

    You got crushed by a block like that when you played coop with Kate.

  • @DarkRaen666
    @DarkRaen666 3 роки тому +1

    Misplacing the bomba nd not free monty- cost 1 extra bomb
    Bombing Monty onto the spikes- priceless
    For everything else there's mastercard.

  • @alotofbaddecisions2046
    @alotofbaddecisions2046 3 роки тому +6

    In situations like 8:13, place the bomb on the top corner of the "box" encircling Monty

  • @KevinAccetta
    @KevinAccetta 3 роки тому +48

    3:58 This is why I don't get why grab button is the same as whip button. And why you need to crouch first either. The only reason I can think of is Derek wanting to cause these situations.

    • @landonvonwhale5830
      @landonvonwhale5830 3 роки тому +12

      It drives me crazy because lb is never used either, it makes no sense that crouch + attack is pickup. The worst part is it's like the one key you can't rebind....

    • @Rogther
      @Rogther 3 роки тому +3

      idk, it makes absolute sense to me xd

    • @evanseifert8858
      @evanseifert8858 3 роки тому +1

      In real life you crouch to pick something up off the ground, don't you?

    • @KevinAccetta
      @KevinAccetta 3 роки тому

      @@evanseifert8858 they could make a button specifically for grabbing, and make it have the crouch + grab animation if there is something to grab.

    • @Rogther
      @Rogther 3 роки тому +1

      @@KevinAccetta it wouldn't feel is tight to control if you had to wat h a cutscene everytime you pick something up

  • @kellenhaug
    @kellenhaug 3 роки тому +2

    Wow, that drill was ultra cursed

  • @SlavaRybka
    @SlavaRybka 3 роки тому +8

    So about Yang - I have once dropped the log of an altar trap through his establishment, but it missed the turkey, and Yang did not aggro at all. It seems he does not care about the integrity of his roof.
    Also, remember that with the spike pits like the one at 3:20 you can drop something from above to break the bone block, then just hop down. As spicy as it seems, the risk of missing the safe spot is really low

  • @MrMeddyman
    @MrMeddyman 3 роки тому

    The savage act of aggression towards Yang man

  • @akumacode
    @akumacode 3 роки тому +1

    okay, @14:00 was pretty impressive.
    NL: Was it my fault the shopkeeper died? No.
    Also NL: All I did was create the conditions in which he died

  • @omyyer
    @omyyer 3 роки тому +17

    If the DING sounds and a shopkeeper dies, you are blamed and take +3 rooms of anger

    • @HankScorpio86
      @HankScorpio86 3 роки тому +1

      Not that simple. If he does by spikes, lava or thorny vines, then you are blamed and get +5 floors. If you do damage to him but he lives, you get +2 floors I believe, might be 3. But if he dies to other traps, you don’t get blamed.

  • @samuraicupcake289
    @samuraicupcake289 3 роки тому +1

    PROTIP : (at 2:12) if you push one of the blocks slightly inwards, then grab the idol the falling pillar will stop and not crush whatever shop or Kali altar below.

  • @maddienicole2810
    @maddienicole2810 3 роки тому +1

    With monty before the quillback you have to place the bomb strategically on the corner! :)

  • @justlexii7689
    @justlexii7689 3 роки тому

    The Yang play was really impressive

  • @nmj..
    @nmj.. 3 роки тому +12

    you know you up too late when you get the fresh nothernlion upload. logged n pogged.

  • @adinmarshall2592
    @adinmarshall2592 3 роки тому +2

    Wait for the lava to drip

  • @yuler_
    @yuler_ 3 роки тому

    4:20 galaxy brain recovery and 'execution'

  • @julianrubin4575
    @julianrubin4575 3 роки тому +1

    Hey nl idk if you'll see this but if you do, in tidepool you can actually survive having the lava fall with enough bombs and ropes, which gives you space to make more mistakes later in the run. Using this trick i was able to make it further than i ever had, even past the sunken city(i wont spoil what comes next

  • @philinegro
    @philinegro 3 роки тому

    Egg - you have definitely crushed yourself with those block, IN the stars challenge, multiple times. In Spelunky 2.

  • @big..pablo.
    @big..pablo. 3 роки тому

    NL I have been wanting to let you find this out on your own but after today’s episode I think it’s necessary. When Monty is in a box, stand above him and carefully place the bomb above the top left or right block. This will always free him without damage.

  • @DeathByRabbit
    @DeathByRabbit 3 роки тому

    The shopkeeper: "Hahahaha! I grabbed him!"

  • @songofthieves
    @songofthieves 3 роки тому

    I think the 5% discount is more than you give it credit for. It feels way stronger. I think it also cancels inflation, which stacks up quite a bit into the jungle. I could be wrong, but keeping a bomb box at 9500 at 2-3 when you can use your purchased supply to gather more gold. Buying shoes at any point makes idols simple, and unless you only get hired help or weapon shops, cleaning them out yields great results

  • @stephanecarlisle7424
    @stephanecarlisle7424 3 роки тому +1

    Perhaps you are already aware, but you can always kind of get to dracula's lair by just bombing your way down on that level without using the drill. If I have a lot of bombs, I usually do it that way. With the TNT everywhere it usually only takes 6-8 bombs to get down there. Great for runs where you couldn't get the Udjat eye also.

  • @deadbatteriesfreeofcharge438
    @deadbatteriesfreeofcharge438 3 роки тому +2

    NL makes me so mad because one minute he’s juggling a ghost pot when the ghost is already out, and the next he’s resource managing like a pro.

  • @JeremyJ27
    @JeremyJ27 3 роки тому

    For idols in the dwelling with the pushable blocks you can move one partially under the log and it wont break through the floor.

  • @WaldmeisterNuruodo
    @WaldmeisterNuruodo 3 роки тому +1

    The Big spiders stand no chance against your spike shoes you can always save a bomb while wearing them :)

  • @kristofferguzman6248
    @kristofferguzman6248 3 роки тому +1

    No one talking about how he found like 20 rubys in different jars

  • @KevinAccetta
    @KevinAccetta 3 роки тому +2

    Let's go, woke up a bit early, was waiting for this vid xD

    • @manueldiaz7341
      @manueldiaz7341 3 роки тому +2

      What time is it where y live it’s 322 am in Cali

    • @KevinAccetta
      @KevinAccetta 3 роки тому +2

      @@manueldiaz7341 they come out at 7am here

  • @fidrildid6
    @fidrildid6 3 роки тому +1

    28:36 turkey treadmill

  • @fudgebutter7288
    @fudgebutter7288 3 роки тому

    The perfect placement of the bomb with monty, and indeed with any of those square mounds of dirt, is in the top left or top right corners, with the bomb at the very edge

  • @ZeroJinKui
    @ZeroJinKui 3 роки тому

    3:58 ryan goes on about not wanting to upset yang for almost two minutes... only to smack him in the face by accident.
    that was amazing.
    8:20 his comedic timing never fails... this had me choking. XD

  • @amaro6603
    @amaro6603 3 роки тому

    Hey NL, couple of things. if you bomb at the bottom of 1-4 you only have to spend one bomb to get to the other side. if the shopkeepers kill themselves you're good, but you can't hurt them. You jumped on their heads a couple of times, that was part of the issue

  • @JordanBl
    @JordanBl 3 роки тому +15

    15:19 Outright lies. I'm sure you have been crushed by a block while doing coop with Kate. Kate was dead, you were doing the moon challenge, and as she was saying "Careful, careful," you mined a tile and ran under the falling block.

  • @Suway1989
    @Suway1989 3 роки тому

    Hey NL, to get Monty out of one of those "cage" formations like at 8:20, you can put a bomb on either of the top corners (has to be pretty precise) and it won't kill him.

  • @qalak7782
    @qalak7782 3 роки тому

    I like the Sploonk,
    because it is pog.
    Yes.

  • @MrSage0011
    @MrSage0011 3 роки тому +1

    Blessed nl for ever shall be

  • @carlwei
    @carlwei 3 роки тому +1

    13:55 POG

  • @Rislear
    @Rislear 3 роки тому

    if Quillback doesn't open the path to the side you want to go, you can just use one bomb on the bottom to get through from the other side by going through the room in the middle

  • @kristiyanmetodiev5209
    @kristiyanmetodiev5209 3 роки тому

    NL a little tip if you have the Capala in Volcania (Vlad's castle) you can get 99 hp

  • @coagulatedguy1421
    @coagulatedguy1421 3 роки тому +2

    Bruh tf was that yang vault I always get like a bar of gold and this man gets a bomb box and rope

  • @ForTheGoldenOak
    @ForTheGoldenOak 3 роки тому +1

    Ah yes, quality environment entertainment

  • @chazdomingo475
    @chazdomingo475 3 роки тому

    Cheapest way to get to the other side if Quillback refuses to open the path you want is to bomb your way into the shortcut for 1 bomb.

  • @PongzeLor
    @PongzeLor 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the company egg father

  • @melon3110
    @melon3110 3 роки тому +2

    Spelunking with zaddy

  • @Supercris25
    @Supercris25 3 роки тому +1

    32:28 Dont hit me im RYAN!

  • @ar8670
    @ar8670 3 роки тому

    you are the Derek of the shopkeepers' worlds lol

  • @maxhoopes5134
    @maxhoopes5134 3 роки тому +1

    If there is a damsel or a moon challenge then there is no black market on the level

  • @Stansgroda
    @Stansgroda 3 роки тому

    lol that nate silver reference c:

  • @Snipehsheep
    @Snipehsheep 3 роки тому

    NL, you can use bombs to drain lava away pretty easily.

  • @recurveninja
    @recurveninja 3 роки тому +2

    Black market vs dracula's castle is not the difference between a jetpack and dracula's cape, it's the difference between a *potential* jetpack and a guaranteed dracula's cape. How often do you actually get a jetpack in the black market? Not every run.

  • @MAdhvaryu
    @MAdhvaryu 3 роки тому +1

    Did this man just say Volcana and NOT VOLCANIA???

  • @treyebillups8602
    @treyebillups8602 3 роки тому +17

    Yeah this has sort of convinced me that Volcana isn't worth it, at least if Derek doesn't move the shop/altar out of the drill's way

    • @atkvin
      @atkvin 3 роки тому +6

      Hyup, NL even demonstrates the simpler and fairer version of the drill mechanic, the Dwelling's totem trap, earlier in the video when he catches that Yang is underneath and would be aggro'd. The fact that you need to leave the fate of your run up to RNG to get to bonus stuff through Volcana straight up throws that comparison vs the Jungle out the window.

    • @marfourn
      @marfourn 3 роки тому +3

      @@atkvin or make the reward worth the risks. like fire immunity

    • @evanseifert8858
      @evanseifert8858 3 роки тому

      If you have enough bombs you can bomb down to the entrance to Vlad's castle too. IIRC it takes about 8 bombs. Still a crappy situation, though.

  • @abcdefsuzu
    @abcdefsuzu 3 роки тому

    Volcania blows. Change my mind

  • @user-mz1fe3yj7e
    @user-mz1fe3yj7e 3 роки тому

    NL both the black market and the drill in volcana can’t spawn on the same floor as the moon challenge. They also can’t spawn on 2-1, along with the salad sisters

  • @Tuloth
    @Tuloth 3 роки тому +2

    I feel like a patch for the Volcano to make Kali / Shop NOT spawn below the drill would be a great step. Kinda blows to have your run shafted by something out of your control. Even if you scouted it to know they were down there, what are you going to do, just flush the run? Also, would using the freeze ray on the lava do anything to stop the drip of death?

    • @squorsh
      @squorsh 3 роки тому

      When you freeze lava it gets rid of a drop of it to make a rock, so you could get rid of lava that way. It's more efficient with the power pack but you know, if you have that you probably would've gone to the jungle

  • @lukkuss-old
    @lukkuss-old 3 роки тому

    Nl why the fuck did you upload at 4 am ahhhhhh
    Well anyways thanks for giving something to watch while dealing with insomnia

  • @jacobbullock2649
    @jacobbullock2649 3 роки тому

    11:55 the spikes didn’t go off when he got the idol

  • @lucasilgenfritz2079
    @lucasilgenfritz2079 3 роки тому +1

    Rip yang:(

  • @MEGATECHNOFAN
    @MEGATECHNOFAN 3 роки тому +2

    8:11 PepeLaugh OHNONONO

  • @seriousleetvv
    @seriousleetvv 3 роки тому

    I used to not agree with you, but after this one I'm on board with the theory that jungle's better than volcana.

  • @Ihasnotomato
    @Ihasnotomato 3 роки тому

    15:20 I.... don’t think that’s true... I can’t recall the exact episode but I do indeed think you have been crushed by a block in spelunking 2 at least once

  • @blussyfan691
    @blussyfan691 3 роки тому

    MURDERRR!!

  • @TheSniper9752
    @TheSniper9752 3 роки тому +2

    27:26 - :Kreygasm:

  • @JakeyTheMistakey
    @JakeyTheMistakey 3 роки тому +9

    This man really bought spike shoes twice. Classic egg move

    • @SebastianDahn
      @SebastianDahn 3 роки тому +5

      He bought them for the discount, gotta lose money to make money

    • @JakeyTheMistakey
      @JakeyTheMistakey 3 роки тому

      @@SebastianDahn honestly, I don’t believe the 5% discount is really worth it

    • @carlwei
      @carlwei 3 роки тому

      @@JakeyTheMistakey He even calculated he would need to spend over 100k to break even and decided it was worth it. It would need to be 110k to make up for the 5500 Spiked Shoes. I don't think he's ever spent 110k on the Black Market.

    • @JakeyTheMistakey
      @JakeyTheMistakey 3 роки тому +1

      @@carlwei yeah I noticed that. In my personal experience, if I get to the black market with over 100K, I usually get everything I want (jetpack or cape, bomb box, any shoes I might need etc.). I won’t go out of my way to get the discount but if a shop in dwelling has like, a bomb bag, bomb box, paste, and a parachute, I’ll spend the extra $1000 for the parachute to get the discount because at that point, why not?

    • @waltertrey
      @waltertrey 3 роки тому +1

      @@JakeyTheMistakey same

  • @TheBuckweat33
    @TheBuckweat33 3 роки тому +1

    Nl underrates volcana cuz he doesnt know how to play it imo. ice gun = super good, also shopkeepers always jump in lava = free gun. Plus, the reason why future NL would like volcana, no need for money means QUICKER runs

  • @SugarMountains
    @SugarMountains 3 роки тому

    Rip Yang

  • @penguin_meat
    @penguin_meat 3 роки тому +1

    31:43 lmaoo

  • @heikocaiko7035
    @heikocaiko7035 3 роки тому +1

    hey is the vlad's cape or climbing gloves the thing that lets you grab onto the ceiling?

    • @Jimbo-de7ww
      @Jimbo-de7ww 3 роки тому +1

      It's the climbing gloves, but this was a bug and was patched out in the most recent update.

    • @heikocaiko7035
      @heikocaiko7035 3 роки тому

      @@Jimbo-de7ww I see I got slightly confused when he grabbed the wall

  • @kwasichan722
    @kwasichan722 3 роки тому

    You couldve sacked the rock dog to kali

  • @jamaicanbutter
    @jamaicanbutter 3 роки тому

    Hey I don't have the new spelunky 2 so I have to ask. Is ghosting gems not a thing anymore? it seems like it would be easy to ghost 2 or 3 gems with the new ghost pot.

  • @kikosilva96
    @kikosilva96 3 роки тому +1

    Shopkeeper using the curved bullet strat from that Angelina Jolie movie

    • @raz1572
      @raz1572 3 роки тому

      Wanted! Reaply brings back memories of my trash taste in movies as a teen

  • @yatoayo6412
    @yatoayo6412 3 роки тому

    let’s get it

  • @NearoC
    @NearoC 3 роки тому +1

    "passing up one of every item in the game" black market typically has like a third of the items and you don't even afford all of those. NL's problem is both underrating the cape AND overrating black market.
    Black market average yield is like, crown, 12 bombs, 1 or 2 items tops.
    Volcana is harder, I don't disagree about that, but the yield is in fact better. You usually get a crate or two as well as the cape for that matter, and the cape itself is better than some bombs and 1-2 items generally. Mobility is king.

    • @TheFiercestCreatureInTheWorld
      @TheFiercestCreatureInTheWorld 3 роки тому

      One or two items is a big understatement, NL's definitely had runs where he's bought three or four items plus bombs from the Black Market. There's also the bomb box from the Children of the Forest, which is usually equal or better than whatever you get in the crates on Vlad's Castle. I think it comes down to whether you think Vlad's Cape is worth four items plus bombs, and NL clearly doesn't think so.

    • @NearoC
      @NearoC 3 роки тому +1

      @@TheFiercestCreatureInTheWorld Well yeah, I didn't say all runs are 1-2 items, I said generally. Some black market runs are amazing, most aren't.
      Again, four items plus bombs is a pretty unrealistic scenario 90% of runs, I mean shit I went black market yesterday because I got a dwellings jetpack, I literally ONLY got bombs and ropes, because there were 3 power packs, 2 machetes, dog, and the two types of boots I already had in a few quantities. Boots that I also got on dwellings. I left that black market with 60k gold left because there was nothing worth buying after buying out the ropes and bombs.
      For every run where you get 4 or more items, there's a run where you get literally no items you don't have. Yes, the bombs are valuable, but vlad's cape is generally worth more, if NL grabbed it pretty much ever and practiced with it he'd probably agree in time.
      But yeah, we all know NL doesn't think it's worth it, even if he's wrong about it, we do all know his thoughts.
      IMO he mostly just likes it so much because jungle's notably easier, which is valid, but I wish he wouldn't act like it's a better value play when it's mostly just that.

    • @TheFiercestCreatureInTheWorld
      @TheFiercestCreatureInTheWorld 3 роки тому

      @@NearoC I still think that 1 or 2 items is an underestimation. Usually the Black Market has some good stuff, the chance that it doesn't is very small unless you've been extremely lucky with getting items earlier in the run.
      I don't think that the plasma cannon is worth much since you have to drop it for the Qilin jar. So it mostly comes down to whether you think that Vlad's cape is better than the Black Market, and I don't think it is on most occasions. Anyway, it's not fair to call NL wrong for preferring the Jungle, as it's all up to personal preference.

  • @MrMoonpopm
    @MrMoonpopm 3 роки тому +2

    sperlunko

  • @zeemaster99
    @zeemaster99 3 роки тому +8

    Honestly, NL already has a disdain for Volcana (which I think results from him not knowing/being adept at handling lava) but the game is really not doing him or the viewers any favors when it gives you garbage seeds like that where an altar is broken and a shopkeeper is angered.

    • @Zanaki113
      @Zanaki113 3 роки тому +4

      Valcana isn't that bad, but I don't blame NL for hating it when stuff like that happens pretty often to him haha.

    • @KreeTheBasilisk
      @KreeTheBasilisk 3 роки тому

      Honestly, if Derek is already tweaking stuff like the Dwelling and Olmec, he should change the drill stage to never be above a shop or an altar.

    • @Sparkjolteon
      @Sparkjolteon 3 роки тому

      @@KreeTheBasilisk tbh I feel like the drill should just spawn at the bottom of the stage rather than the top. that'd also make drilling thru dripping hot magma less likely to happen

    • @zeemaster99
      @zeemaster99 3 роки тому +1

      @@Sparkjolteon
      ​ @Tim van der Horst
      I think the drill is fine as is. As someone who mainlines Volcana, the shopkeepers and altars are somewhat of a rarity and the lava itself is not a big problem when you get the hang of it. If anything, I rather see tweaks to the temple and tide pool before any change comes to the world 2 biomes.