Johnny Depp v Amber Heard #22 - (Passive Aggressive Triggers) - Therapist Reaction
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2024
- Dr. Kirk Honda reacts to the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial.
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amber: and then he beat me and I wept
johnny: and she withheld my suboxone and I crumpled to the floor
dr h: WHO IS CHEWING GUM
Dr Kipper testified that Heard administer Depp's drugs according to the timetable he had set. So Depp wanted his meds ahead of time and that could have killed him.
🤣🤣🤣🤣exactly all of us
😩😂😂
😂🤣 and the worst part is, I couldn’t even hear it until he said something
😂😂😂😂
It’s not someone chewing gum, it’s the stenographer 😂. The lady is sitting right beneath the witness stand so the mic is picking up the sound.
I came here to make sure someone else made this comment 😅🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
But it's too funny how he goes off 😂 I loved it ❤️🤠
that's what I was thinking
He’s such a professor 😂
He has 2 kids - a prenup/postnup protects THEM. Protecting children is a top priority for parents.
So much that they will lie, cheat and bribe for them to get into Ivy League schools. Not saying that he did, but money has a tendency to mess with people in incredibly bad ways.of course he should protect them. To AH i completely rely on what Kirk is telling us on how it effected her in a BPD and in a non-BPD individual.
He refused to take out the pre-nup. Her lawyer testified that while she was attempting the pre-nup that Depp rang her, called her a "b@tch" and then sacked her. What else could Heard do?
Lol 😆 🤣 😂 😹 .... refused come on dud3. Even if no one believed me saying he's bias. It's not gonna work with prenup
@@ek7390 you actually think that's what happened? Her lawyer confirmed that he called and was rude and called her a bitch, she did not confirm that amber heard was attempting to get a pre-nup lmao...don't tell me you believe that amber heard wanted a pre-nup and johnny depp didn't...that makes absolutely zero sense...and IF that were the case, why would she go after his money in divorce if she in fact never wanted it? you have to do so many mental gymnastics here
@@nGUNNARp The lawyer Mulroney said that in order to set up the pre-nup as requested by Heard that she needed Depp to fill in forms about his finances. Depp went ballistic, cursed her out and sacked her. The same day as Mulroney testified Depp's accountant and agent also testified and revealed that Depp has burned his way through his fortune and was in debt. So it is equally possible that Depp didn't want to discuss his finances with Mulroney because Depp wasn't on solid ground. Like his drug addiction his finances and career prospects were just another area that Depp was in denial.
You have more empathy for Amber Heard than you have for the gum-chewer lol
And more empathy for Hitler lol
For a person with Mr. Depp's economic wealth it is totally rational to ask for a prenup.
Not only does it makes sense, he also has his previous relationships as experience in those matters.
And if you are a person that are able to think rationally and logically, you would understand without a question that If there is a divorce you wont feel what you felt when you got married .
Which means you are hurt and might take advantage of something you normally wouldn't do.
Saying that you wouldn't is disingenuous because there is no way you can know that.
He also has to protect his assets for the sake of his 2 kids.
My argument for prenups is you will stay together because you love each and want to be together rather than staying together because it’s too financially damaging to not
@@zeynepgulsu1899 Your point? And how is it connected to my comment?
I believe Dr Honda said she was blind sided and Depp hadn’t discussed pre or post nuptial with her.
@@maryvance8149 Dr. Honda was speculating that it was possible he blindsided her with it. I’m pretty sure he didn’t (AH didn’t describe it that way in her testimony either) but it is a reasonable explanation to why someone could’ve had that response.
I think prenups and/or postnuptials are somewhat common for marriages in which one or both parties have children from previous relationships. I think in those situations it’s less about doubting the marriage or partner and more about putting their kids first. Basically just wanting to make sure Lily Rose and Jack’s inheritance and/or monetary interests are protected. I think they’re pretty common in general when it’s comes to Hollywood and that level of wealth so likely many of Amber and Johnny’s peers had them too.
Exactly. Even without children involved, if you are a person of considerable wealth, it should just be assumed standard that you will have legal protection around your financial assets. It's totally absurd for AH to have taken umbrage with that. The moment they decided to get married, that should have just been assumed. JD's a mega star. Of course he's going to want to protect his assets
He should have never married her without a prenup and visa versa. I'm sure she had some assets so it would have protected her. Then it should have said the money they made after the marriage was joint and what they made before was sole and seperate property.
Can’t we sometimes just be happy with harm reduction… I feel like sometimes the shame that comes with the idea of relapse in 12 step/complete abstinence makes it worse. Like addicts/alcoholics feel plenty of shame for relapse in the first place and abstinence recovery can just make it worse to the point where they never entertain the idea again.
Thank you for saying that.
Yes, I wish more people would be accepting of the multiple forms of harm reduction INCLUDING Medication assisted treatment especially for something as debilitating as opioid addiction!
That is true, but we don't know exactly what he was asking for or how much. Those meds are normally dispensed by someone with training or someone who can be trusted to follow doctors orders. In that case, he should have called his doctor, unless he did not want anyone else to know.
Harm reduction is the policy and praxis in Denmark. It’s incredibly effective and a lot of average addicts learns to control their drugs better and over all they live healthy lives like most others. There is no guilt or shame involved as it’s much more about learning to live a “normal” life with the addiction as well as as juggling family life, jobs, hobbies, sports, etc. I’ve seen impressive results from beginning till the end of their process.
@@denisedelgiudice3378 She was in contact with both his doctor and nurse. I’m not sure how much he actually talked with them himself.
Thank you for explaining BPD and HST in a way that humanizes it. I don't know if they apply to AH, although they might, but I appreciate that you are true to the purpose of these descriptions, which is to provide understanding and treatment, in order to help everyone involved.
No conscience. No empathy.
That's something other than curry's Dx.
@@dsoule4902 Unfortunately, JD seems to have viewed it that way. Which may have to do with his own trauma as well, other than what was actually happening or intended.
yw right. hes a feminist. now it all makes sense how he was kissing hughes ass all day
Unlike people who use terms like narcissist as an insult. When I hear someone say someone is a narcissist I think, thanks to Kirk, oh wow so they must be truly suffering.
I lived with a borderline husband for 3 years....my life was made chaos by it. But to mention....once a borderline rejects you (splitting) then they actually "abandon" you....for the last year of my marriage, my husband completely rejected and emotionally abandoned me......I think this side of borderline should be talked about more
Absolutely! I dealt with exact situation. With my ex everything was black or white. When we finally split it was total abandment on his part. He did the thing he feared most.
Yes! This was how my father was with my mother. He finally moved out when I was 15 after years of them barely speaking. He didn’t tell us he was leaving and then called to ream us out a week later for not looking for him. We were so relieved!
My opinion after watching both testimonies & cross examinations: This is a case of someone w/ low self esteem, a lot of insecurities, childhood abuse trauma, history of self medicating to hide from all of his unprocessed feelings & is used to running away from conflict- MARRIES- someone w/ untreated BPD, HPD, history of violent behavior & substance abuse (including drinking heavily while taking acutane) & who also has childhood abuse trauma but denies it happened (she sees victims as weak)- this is the disastrous result of that relationship dynamic.
There’s one victim (JD), one abuser(AH), & both need help.
On a subconscious level, JD may have even been inspired or in awe of AH's refusal to be a victim of her childhood. It may have felt like the feminine protection he longed for as a child. The problem is that this protection began to attack him... in an all too familiar way.
@@kemigyrl1 I agree. I think he was drawn to her strength, confidence & ‘caretaker’ personality at first but realized after the relationship progressed, that the strong, confident caretaker didn’t exist. It was just her performance of one because she ultimately needs something no person can give her.
No one can live up to those types of demands because they are constantly changing with her volatile personality. Plus she mistakes physical fights as “passion” and “love” and when he wouldn’t engage (bc conflict terrifies him), to her that meant he didn’t love her and wasn’t willing to fight for the relationship. So she would emotionally & physically abuse him. To her, he ‘abused’ her first by not wanting to fight, by leaving.
She mentioned during her testimony after those “physical beatings” she SAID he gave her, that “it hurt my feelings” (which was one of the only times her emotions felt real), not “it hurt so bad” but “it hurt my feelings”.
@@felineoverlordservant2419 Just excellent comments from you. I completely agree and thank your for sharing your insightful thoughts.
JD is not the victim. He is a duplicitous addict and a stone cold liar. In the statement at the end where he states that he had a few shots of vodka we know that he also had 10 MDMA tablets and had been taking 2g plus of cocaine a day along with prescribed benzodiazepines and adderall. Depp was a walking ball of aggression capable of anything.
@@ek7390 I see you strongly dislike addicts. I also have a lot of experience w/ addicts being that my husband, who struggled with drug abuse for years, died of an overdose 7 years ago. Addiction doesn’t make someone violent or abusive.
Everything you just stated in your comment is what “Amber Says” & doesn’t match the evidence or audio recordings. I won’t argue back and forth with you but Amber has been caught in so many lies on stand, it’s absurd. Every single one of HER witnesses contradicted HER stories (more than once), even her very own sister. Let that sink in.
Lastly, there’s verified audio recordings (with Amber screaming & yelling hysterically “I’m so sorry” & “I didn’t mean to hurt him”) of what happened in Australia. I urge you to listen to that before making anymore comments.
There’s also about 4 hours worth of audio recordings where Amber’s screaming, gaslighting, being abusive and actually admits to hurting Johnny. After listening to those, you’ll never convince me that Amber is not abusive.
As someone with a lot of avoidant behaviour, I would totally understand Depp's choice of getting a lawyer to try to sort out the post-nup, hoping someone from the outside with authority could, for compensation, accomplish something that I would be unable to achieve due to fear of confrontation.
I mean, I’m fairly anxious/disorganized attached and I’d still get a lawyer. There’s no way I could handle my own pre-nup, I’d rather not have to have any sort of battle with my partner. Rather just lay out my terms and let the lawyers work out the details
Heard did get a lawyer and she confirmed heard was happy to do it and started returning and ll the signed paper work then depp called her lawyer called the woman a bitch and sacked her off. I think the narrative is to paint her as a. Mentally ill and b. A gold digger
😂 I think the "chewing" noise is the lady typing up what they are all saying
I think so too. Does Kirk not know they are a thing?🤣🤣
Yes! The Court Reporter does sit close to the witness stand. This is the 1st time I've actually heard it and it is 100% typing. 😉
🤣🤣🤣 i like how he had a mini breakdown about the “chewing” sounds
@@janewildly Hahaha I think he is very sensitive to noise. I'm a bit that way myself. He mentioned his barking dogs in another video. I never noticed the gum chewing but yapping dogs can get on my nerves big time, despite being a dog lover.
I think it’s the typing from the court stenographer, Dr Honda. My mom is the same way about gum though.
Yeah I thought the same thing. It would explain why it's so consistent
Isn't it extremely naive to think anyone with a lot of money and assets would not want a prenup or postnup to avoid future misunderstandings and to protect assets?
My thoughts
@@loati94 I think he has a slight AH bias but overall he seems to be being very fair. He's moving slow thru the trial and has seen a lot less information at this point than most of us, so I try to remember that.
If JD wanted a prenup he should have gotten one and I don't believe he couldn't have. He's a grown man, and a powerful one at that. I think some people forget that and prefer to view him as a helpless kid.
especially someone who has children from a previous relationship
See its not just me
I am pretty sure Amber knew about the post-nup, it was not a surprise. What was a surprise to her was the fact that she wasn't in the Will. In fact it was her lawyer that is the subject of this part of the testimony. Plus, Johnny isn't saying he doesn't know legal stuff, he said he doesn't know how to explain it to her because she kept cutting him off. The security is his children by the way.
Thank you, I was going to write the same thing. The post-nup convo wasn't a shock because they had discussed a pre-nup prior to marriage. He told her a lawyer was going to walk her through it.
20:05 Yes, reading between the lines heavily. CA is a communal property state, which means, upon DEATH, (not just divorce), regardless of one's Will, 50/50 split of assets accrued during marriage. So even if Johnny's Will left everything to his children, CA law would first split his death assets, 50 to his Estate and 50 to Amber. So his Estate 50 could go 100% to his children, and the other 50, 100% to Amber. In CA, no spouse can write their spouse out of 50% of all of their accrued assets without a prenuptial or postnuptial agreement. And the most normal reason why you would not want 100% to go to your spouse, in ANY state, is because you have children not from that spouse. So, no - "thinking you are going to get a divorce" is not "The" reason for a prenuptial or postnuptial. The more obvious reason is you want your children to receive your money, as much as possible. She was actually offended that he had the audacity to leave some of his own Death money to his children, rather than leave all of it to her.
I'm unsure how you missed that his lawyers wanted him to get the prenup to protect his children. To make sure they were protected in all ways in the event of a divorce.
This was stated and restated many times throughout this trial.
He has not watched the trial
This man is driving me crazy tbh like how can he be so blind
@@jaellep9833 then don’t watch him if you are feeling triggered. He has the right to his point of view just like you 😊
It's unfair to say he's blind. I mean, imagine you haven't heard all the recordings and evidence about Amber and her friends - could you ever imagine someone could be so evil or psycho as her? I sure wouldn't.
If you put 1/2 dozen therapists in a room, you could potentially have 1/2 dozen takes on this. He is expressing his own view and not those of every therapist.
The marriage counselor noted a pattern of Amber over talking Johnny. If he was trying to explain why his lawyers said it was a good idea, but she kept yelling at him.
It’s in the tapes too
When I was in labour with my second daughter I was at home alone for about four hours. My partner was at work, my mother had come to collect my first daughter but couldn't stay because she had a cold. I was due to have a home birth.
For about four hours I was listening to the same song on repeat - it was Stardust "Music Sounds Better With You" - it helped me focus, but I was just on the beat for focusing on the rhythm whilst in pain. After a while I got fed up and I remember singing along to All Saints "Never Ever" through a contraction just before my midwife turned up (home birth)
I've used songs in repeat to focus on raw emotions, sadness, anger, pain... I relate to that - doesn't have to be a specific song - just something that you relate to at the time.
This is exactly how I gave birth naturally 3 times. One song on repeat for focus and timing the contractions.
I've used this method for period cramps too. Very helpful.
Right. I use music because life is so unbearable because no one believes me, won’t hire me, won’t talk to me. It’s awful and there’s nothing I can do about it.
I'm due any day now and might have to try this.
I did the same with “Till the morning comes” by Grateful Dead while having a natural birth with my daughter! 💕
This video stopped like a perfect cliffhanger…. I have watched the case pretty much live so I know what’s coming next. Unfortunately this isn’t fictional situation but I’m learning so much about how to interact with people in general and how to maneuver my own feelings and emotions.
Go see a real shrink
@@jixchalee5451 i see u got big mad coz u got called out for spamming on the last video lolz. created a new account and a poorly attempted anagram as a username and everything, but it's obvious it's still u and ur still spamming smh. do better next time, obfuscate, practice ur english and get a life
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I can't wait to see Dr Honda react to the "You're killing me!" clip. It's one of the most eye-opening of the bunch, hearing how she reacts to him wanting literal hours away from her.
Exactly. And in that same clip, her language of him "throwing" her "against the wall" and mimicking his voice in a really nasty way, just because he calmly said that he wanted to go spend some time with his daughter...really telling of how much she exaggerates her lies and gaslights him into feeling like a monster.
And how he reacted.
It can be said she is so dramatic in that audio, but in others like the non accepted as evidence where she admitted hurting him in Australia and destroying the ground floor, and also her reactions and behaviour in general can be ascertained as Narcissistic 101, not to mention BPD (abandonement feeling is the core trait)
Same!! Please Dr Honda, would you please react to that clip?
5 bucks skipped
She didn't want him to go because she knew he was planning to use drugs. CONTEXT matters.
This is a pretty obvious DUH situation. How did his doctor allow a family member to be in charge of Depps medications and detox? Obviously, it's not just a bad idea for the addict but for the person in charge of the addict.
To be fair, both Dr Kipper and Nurse Debbie were on the island with them. Probably didn't suspect that Amber was there to boost her own ego.
@@underthegardenwall Ah, I thought they were allowing her to be there because they weren't. Thanks for the clarification.
@@Metonymy1979 You're welcome. :)
@@underthegardenwall Dr Kipper wasn't on the island. he testified that he would have preferred Depp to go through a formal rehab program rather than an ad hoc program. But Depp didn't actually want to get sober he wanted to continue to drink, take cocaine etc. All he wanted to do was come off the roxicodone. Heard ended up in charge as Depp originally wanted to take Nathan Holmes his personal assistant. But as Holmes was also Depp's cocaine dealer he was deemed unsuitable so at the last minute Heard stepped in. Not Heard's fault but another way in which Depp wouldn't take responsibility for his own sobriety.
@@ek7390 Exactly, but I thought Dr. Kipper showed up on the island later. Didn't AH testify that both the Dr. & the nurse were on the island at some point? AH was communicating with them via walkie-talkies and sometimes with cell phones but she was pretty much on her own trying to deal with this man-child.
I can't get over how JD supporters refuse to hold JD accountable for anything. Reminds me of another very rich and powerful man who convinced tens of millions of Americans that he was always the victim despite the fact that he was the most powerful man in the country. smh
Interesting reaction to talk of the pre-nup. I disagree with the notion that a pre-nup just for wealthy people, so a bit surprised it hasn't played a role with any of your clients. But pre-nups are also becoming a lot more common with my generation...
This hits very close to home, reminding me of having to lock myself in the bathroom as my mother (bpd as well) chased after me in a very similar way, and stood outside screaming at me nonstop for around an hour until her boyfriend eventually made her stop
@@srolesen At the time I would have said yes. Now I don't believe so. I will never like or forgive my mother, nor will I want her back in my life, but I don't hate her anymore and I have sympathy for her. That's not to say this is at all an excuse, but it's an explanation (small distinction), and I think she's just...got a very sad life, and feels that everything and everyone is out of her control and that if she doesn't cling on in any way possible, no matter how destructive, she will be nothing. Because she doesn't know who she is alone, and without other people she is nothing. I think she has a lot of crushing feelings and a literally *desperate* need for attention and affection, and it's just really hard to live that way, especially when she has always refused to believe she might have mental health issues and seek help (despite being a hypochondriac on the physical side of things).
So...yes, she could be cruel to a lot of people, including me, but I don't think it was for the sake of cruelty. I think it was driven by a desperation to cling on to the people in her life, and to grab attention in whatever way possible even if it was 'bad' attention.
The attorney that spoke to her was an attorney that she selected. That attorney has testified. Prenups are done with a separate attorney for each participant. So this attorney was representing Amber and not Johnny. And the attorney has already stated that Amber knew about the prenup in advance (when she selected the attorney and communicated with her via email) She also said she didn’t laugh at Amber or say anything mean or hurtful. So, almost everything you framed your perspective by is irrelevant. I totally understand wanting to be compassionate and not just jumping on the hate bandwagon, but I think you filled in the blanks for Amber a bit too much in this particular video.
He has a habits of over explaining going overboard to try to be fair. I
That attorney also said that Johnny fired her by yelling at least one obscenity at her and saying that he and Amber would never be getting a postnup--as far as I can remember, she's the only witness other than Johnny or Amber who testified what happened regarding a prenup/postnup. Also, Dr. Honda's mostly watching this in the order it was unfolded so he likely hasn't even gotten to that testimony yet. How he tried to conceptualize it is possible from the information he currently has--and even he admits it may not be the case. And as shown, if Amber has a personality disorder, even if the attorney was very polite, she could have perceived the situation differently because her attachment was being threatened. This is one issue that is still a bit murky to me, but ultimately doesn't impact the overall outcome of the case too much.
@@mybooksandthings Yes. And that only helps Johnny’s case. He testified that the incident in Australia started because she was upset about the postnup and said that the attorney was being mean to her. He said he was so upset with the attorney that he called and said some really terrible things to the attorney. But also, it’s important to remember that they asked this attorney if Johnny Depp was even in a position to be able to fire her. And she said no. Only the person the attorney represents (Amber) can actually dismiss or “fire” legal counsel. Yeah, Depp screamed at her and “fired” her. But Amber had to agree to that. He can’t dismiss someone else’s counsel. Nobody can.
@@shrutefarms4741 I totally understand that though. Especially given his profession. That’s his job to be empathetic and he has experience working with actual victims. Makes sense. I just think that there’s a point where you can go too far. At some point you can pass being empathetic and now your literally filling in blanks with really big hypothetical scenarios that drastically change the way you analyze and understand the information your taking in.
It's obvious this "Psychology in Seattle" guy has not been watching the trial. He doesn't have the full scope of how manipulative and cruel Amber has been.
I've had valium once for medical reasons. I still miss that amazing feeling....it felt so great. So it gave me a bit of understanding how hard addiction is
Seriously? Interesting how drugs affect us all differently.
Valium has almost no effect on me . But that could be because I have a severe, chronic pain condition. My doc prescribed them for pain. But I have zero dependency , even after several years.
Was given fentanyl once for a minor procedure. I have never felt so relaxed and content in my entire life, even hours afterward. I could easily see myself becoming addicted.
@@politereminder6284 oh i was on clouds for a full day...
@@SweetChestnut07 right?
@@kimosabe818 wow! Interesting! 😅
According to Depp's side:
He wanted a prenup, but there is some time between the prenup and wedding you need to wait (it's required by law), and because of their schedule and AH not agreeing - they didn't get it. Shortly after the wedding, he asked her to meet with the lawyer about a postnup (he told her what it was going to be about). The wedding was around Jan/Feb 2015, and the Australia accident was in March 2015, so this was immediately after. He agreed to the wedding because she was insecure and he wanted her to feel safe and he hoped there will be less fighting (which fits borderline theory)
In South Africa you can not get married without a prenuptial. It determines the marriage agreement. You marry within or without community of property with or without the accrual system. It not only determines divorce conditions, it also determines how property is bought during the marraige or how bankruptcy will work.
I think it is a good idea.
She didn't want to sign the prenup, that's all. That's what made her really angry 🤣
Hey Dr Honda, I don't think the sound is someone chewing. I think it could be the court stenographer.
Thanks so much for these reactions, I really appreciate your perspective
Lol, I've watched nearly all of this trial, and I usually hate anything like "mouth noises", but I somehow never heard the stenographer until you brought it up. Probably because the mics make everyone sound like they're speaking into a potato, so my brain just shut out all the random fuzz and noise.
Same, I never even noticed the clicking noise.
It’s the mouth breather sitting next to the mic that kills me.
You also don’t hear the stenographer so much at normal speed. At sped up, which this is, it becomes more apparent. Just like speeding up people talking often makes them sound chipmunk like.. the steno sped will sound slightly higher pitched.
Speaking into a potato 🤣 that made me laugh 😂
I enjoy your opinions on possible reasoning for their actions. His actual therapist is in the most recent days trial. I so much thought of you not wanting to break confidentiality. I know Johnny must have agreed to it, but it was interesting to see. Love watching your thoughts on this case. Thank you.
I think that it was either allowing that therapist to testify or be subject to evaluation by a therapist that the opposing team hired
@@nGUNNARp could be. He really didn’t say anything we don’t already know. I think it brought more sympathy towards Depp personally. But I could see he was struggling. I totally understand his feeling that way.
@@storminight Blaustein's testimony was interesting because it showed Depp's spiralling addiction, irrational jealousy and refusal to confront his problems and while he was sympathetic to his patient he didn't rule out that his jealousy and delusions wouldn't lead to violence.
Blaustein specifically questioned the amount of Adderall Depp was prescribed. Adderall addiction leads to mania, aggression, relationship problems, memory loss and secretive behaviour. Throw in cocaine, prescription xanax, marijuana, MDMA and alcohol and Heard was in a world of trouble. Depp may not even remember having lashed out.
@@ek7390 exactly. I don't think that Amber is innocent in this entire case. But I am a tired of portraying JD as a saint. Like are they completely blind or oblivious to his behavior. Their relationship was extremely toxic from both. Also if I remember correctly it was testified that he does take out his anger on objects around him and that also creates a super unsafe environment to anyone.
I have to say I was unbiased when I started watching this trial. But I am kind of shocked about what was revealed about his behavior as well.
it’s my understanding they were both on Adderall and the rest. Throw in a few mushrooms and a few “cuddle puddles” sounds like in your opinion both could escalate to becoming delusional and violent, wouldn’t you think?
To clarify, I agree the relationship was toxic and they brought out the worst triggers in each other.
23:40 Amber knew about the prenup, delayed it, refused to discuss it, I don't believe that the postnup came out of the blue...
It absolutely didn't. She herself claims she had instructed her lawyer to draft a post-nup. Now she wants us to believe it's because she was keen to get it over with but the reality is that the reason the low income partner presents the first draft, is to control negotiations. It's basically saying, "here are my irreducible minimums". I know because I have advised several clients to use this strategy.
The argument in Australia was not about his sobriety, and Amber was not supportive when he had detoxed. She was going nuts over the post-nup and she had lied to him about the lawyers. She is literally triggered by absolutely everything, he can't leave a room, he can't stay in a room, he can't have pre or post nups, he can't take drugs (as she actually does), he can't detox, and discussions become arguments that are circular with her. Honestly, I don't know what you recommend he should do in any of these situations with her. Drinking was not a great option for him but it's not what triggered her, it was just another angle for her to attack him. The absolutely only solution to this horrendous relationship was for him to leave her permanently. She of course did the classic get in there first and while she was at it accuse him of DV and ask for 4 penthouses, 50k a month 2 vehicles and her expense to be paid, she was keen to get a lot of money out of him. She of course needs treatment but while she is getting any and us in denial about herself, it's not possible for someone to have a healthy relationship with her - no matter what they do, as nothing is ever enough.
I went thru absolute HELL on opioids, and I didn't take them outside of the recommended amount. I also did not take other substances with them, and rarely drank while taking them. Still, that is something only someone who has been thru long opioid treatment understands. Mine was for chronic pain management due to multiple autoimmune issues. I will say, 6mo after going cold turkey off of dilaudid & oxy, Cannabis saved my life & sanity.
Thank you, Dr Honda, for always having such amazing insight!
25:08 - It's the sound of the Court Reporter transcribing the testimonies.
Thank you. I was thinking it didn’t sound like someone chewing gum. This makes a lot more sense.
Oh that’s a good possibility! I didn’t think it was someone chewing gum either. I figured it was maybe a mic glitch or electrical glitch.
Dr. Honda, I think there is some confusion on the post up/lawyer situation.
Amber blamed her own lawyer. So she had a family/marriage lawyer, so the pre/post nup wasn’t out if the blue. I think JDs motivation, was okay, I can’t explain it to her (again and again) any better. Lawyers can help, and *her* counsel can explain how this can be good for her.
Amber didn't blame her lawyer. The lawyer herself testified this past Thursday that she had arranged to speak with Depp about the pre-nup and get him to fill out forms and he rang her while intoxicated swore at her and sacked her.
So it is an outright lie to argue that Heard hadn't taken steps to put a pre-nup in place.
@@ek7390 When I said Amber blamed the lawyer, I meant to JD. According to him she arrived in Australia upset about the lawyer treating her horribly which is why he got angry and called to yell at her/fire her. Which he didn’t have the authority to do. So, why did she stop?
I don’t think any reasonable person believes JD is the reason no pre/post nup. If AH had cooperated, there would be no issue.
Also on a side note, if you want to be in family law catering to the rich and powerful, and you can’t handle being yelled at for less than two minutes, gtfo. It is the most stressful time for the clients (both sides) and encompasses all aspects of their entire future notably money, family, kids. It’s gonna be stressful, people are gonna yell.
@@allysonleblanc59 there were two different lawyers. In Australia she was talking about the one setting up the post-nup. The other one was the lawyer Heard had herself hired to set up the pre-nup. BTW Depp sacked the lawyer not the other way around. There does come a time in a conversation with someone who is inebriated and swearing that you would have to ring off. Time is money.
@@ek7390 Technically, JD would not have the authority to fire her if she was retained to represent AH. But, it gets a little tricky when a 3rd party is paying the bills. Typically the attorney would have a retainer agreement with both the client (AH) and the 3rd party (JD). If JD stopped paying then AH would be responsible for the attorney fees. Only the client (AH) could fire her, though.
@@tellthetruthna8523 JD would not fill in the financial disclosure statement necessary to draw up the pre-nup so it would have been impossible for the lawyer to progress the matter without his input.
It seems that after the wedding his sister and accountant found out that JD hadn't bothered to fill in the forms for the pre-nup and went postal. They took it out of Depp's hands and a lawyer started threatening Heard. A post-nup should have been a matter for Heard and Depp not the Depp machine.
Much of Heard's frustration was that the entire Depp machine was more interested in their own pay checks than in Depp's wellbeing. Even though she was 25 to 35 years younger than some of Depp's staff she knew he would never kick the drugs an get his life back if they didn't do some tough love. She was right he shouldn't have permanently walked away from his problems. He needed to stay and talk. If he had talked to the lawyer, filled in the forms there would have been a pre-nup. But no ...
Ugh I am trying to watch this but the premise you're basing your explanations off of is not quite correct.
His lawyers insisted on the prenup, she kept putting it off, they kept trying and she sped up the marriage, then they said it was too late for a prenup and now needed a post-nup, which she knew about as well and kept putting off like she did the prenup.
The terms were already decided and it was to protect the children. She absolutely did not want to sign anything. This was testified to several times by several people.
He had his lawyers meet with AH to explain what the postnup was about and she became upset that one of those lawyers was "rude and dismissive" and then she was upset by something her own lawyer told her regarding terms and began haranguing him for it all.
She was calling him a "p*ssy" and "a**kisser" because he was agreeing with what his lawyers wanted and not standing up to them and so in her mind not standing up for and fighting for her. This is a common element in all her arguments we hear, that he won't "fight" for her.
Thanks for explaining this so clearly. Hopefully Dr Honda sees it. Would love to hear his reaction once he has the full n accurate context.
She was also very angry to discover she wasn't in his Will, thank God for that, or he may have lost more than the tip of his finger!
No that is not what happened. On Thursday Heard's lawyer testified that Heard has arranged for a pre-nup and that Depp called her while inebriated, swore at her then sacked her. What else could Heard do? Depp is an absolute monster.
Huh? By this logic she would of fought for what she was legally entitled to in the divorce. Your logic is missing completely. But that doesn't matter much these days. Neither does the truth. Depp called and fired her lawyer and cussed her out. Completely utterly contrary to point that he wanted a post nup. But spin baby spin that narrative. Burn the witch, she's a witch she's a witch. Gonna go watch Monty Python now.
How do we get Kirk to know that the stenographers typing is the sound he hears?
I dont know but I really wish he would shut up about it... He seems to have obsessional tendencies...
@@simoncoco1 he had misophonia, which he has said in an earlier video. Hopefully he or his wife will see one of the many comments saying it’s the stenographer.
He records these videos in bulk so it'll probably be a couple videos from now that he'll mention he has seen the comments
Lol..it's to avert attention away from prenup..he knows everything
@@simoncoco1 this made me laugh. Thanks!
The nuanced analyses in this video (and others) are so refreshing. I am largely sympathetic to Johnny and find him to be quite credible, but Amber's perspective of their relationship, etc. is equally valid. Amber seemed to show genuine care for Johnny, even if it was sometimes communicated in an unhealthy manner. They both have their faults, and a trial isn't exactly the place to reconcile those, however necessary.
I similarly do hope Amber gets help, but having a mental disorder (especially as high-functioning as she) shouldn't disqualify someone from seeing consequences for beating people up. It's just not really an excuse, and I rather doubt most people would disagree on that point if the genders were switched. I will of course stop dissing Amber as soon as Johnny wins the trial, but until then, I'm with the rest of the world in making sure he gets justice because again, if Johnny were a woman, I still would've done the same.
I need help. Kindly point out her actions that were " genuinely caring" . 🤔
@@politereminder6284 Personally having trouble seeing this too lol. But I guess someone who has BPD shows love in the way Amber did? I wouldn't know, but what with all her cheating and hitting, I too find it very hard to believe she truly loved Johnny. Though again, I don't know to what the extent we're supposed to excuse and show sympathy for Amber's behavior just because she has BPD....
I came in unbiased, or if anything, believing her. I didn’t know anything about her. I enjoyed two of his movies and can do without the rest. Just to say I’m not a fan, like many people watching. It seems clear to me that she has lied through her teeth and can’t get out of the lies now. I think she would have been better off telling the truth of what happened because it appears like a toxic relationship. But I don’t think her lies produce an equally valid story of their relationship. She has taken zero accountability for the fighting, drinking and drugs. If she was concerned about his sobriety, why would she move her whole crew into the penthouses to constantly do drugs, which they all admitted to? It just doesn’t add up. I feel sorry for both of them and hope they can both find the help they need to heal their childhood traumas.
As a person with historic unregulated BPD (I have since been in therapy and on medication to address my issues), my ex partner used to go away with work for weeks at a time.
I fully believed this to be him rejecting and abandoning me, and evidence that he hated and was cheating on me. I would become hysterical, abusive develop insomnia and panic, to the point he had to bring me along on a few of his longer trips, or if he didn’t I would become spiteful and not reply or talk to him for the duration of his time away, in a protest to demonstrate I didn’t care about him either or to make him feel the pain I was feeling. This Reaction also applied to him going on family holidays, nights out, hospital visits etc.
Listening to this trial and reflecting I see how harmful my behaviour was, and it frustrates me Amber doesn’t take responsibility or admit to her outbursts, even if she was just scared and hurting at the time.
I look forward to these every day. Wish I could fast forward and watch them all at once 😅
I love how Dr. Honda uses the word rando. I also appreciate how he let us in on one of his triggers and how he would use a time machine to stop the action that triggers him before using the time machine to eliminate Hitler.
dr honda definitely shows symptoms of BPD...
Video suggestion: Not sure if you’ve done it, but I think a video on the differences between narcissism and borderline would be a good one.
This is not a personality contest. I've worked in DV and the male abusers are usually very charming in court. If a small percentage of what she says is true then she can write about it. By all accounts his addictions got worse and she triggered him. He was heavily intoxicated most of the time.
Her lawyer, not his, was on the phone with AH when this started.
13:45 I appreciate that you attempted to find it
Noooo that was the worst place to end!! XD I can't wait until your next vid to see your thoughts on what is coming next!
@ Psychology in Seattle It's not gum chewing. It's the lady transcripting the trial 😀
💛 thank you so much for covering this!
You are so good at describing the mental symptoms of withdrawal. You are so wise and compassionate.
Thanks, Dr. Honda; these are getting me through my treadmill workouts! I laughed out loud when you discussed going back in time to tell the “gum chewer” to stop. I have a similar reaction to sitting at a table with someone who is shaking their leg. Anyways, I think it’s typing 🤭. - B
Ok I used to work for a suboxone doctor (opiate withdrawal med) and I have personal experience as well…..many people trying to get sober don’t need a rehab facility…they take this medication home, once they go into withdrawal they take the medication, and if need be can take more (within a certain range set by the dr) depending on their symptoms. They have to actively be in withdrawal to start or they risk making themselves more sick and those symptoms are harsh….then you take more daily or twice daily…miss a dose and you go back into withdrawal…in my experience you do this for a set time, and work your way down until u don’t need it anymore.
I’m not sure if that’s what he was taking, or how quickly he was trying to get sober etc….Im just saying that there are legit systems where you go thru detox without rehab or a dr physically by your side throughout. If she took his meds so that he couldn’t take them as needed then it would make sense that he might have this extreme reaction and what reason would she have but to torture him? If she didn’t know how to administer or he was asking for extra or others than she should have called for help…either way this is cruel.
I totally agree and based on the medications he said in court I don’t recall him stating he was on buprenorphine which I thought to be super odd, it can help so much with the physical withdrawals - you’d thing with his access to resources and means that he would have been given that medication and best care. I would even thing initially as a long term med it would have been appropriate especially since it sounds like he has some chronic pain issues as well.
No one is chewing gum, its the person typing what they say
Please can you do a reaction video to some of the actual audio clips that have come out from this trial?
He promised that. There's a community post where you can write which audio you'd like to see analyzed by dr. Honda :)
@@SicYennefer Thanks!
Thank you for reacting to this, so excited to see your reaction for the things to come
(I just realized I've been leaving little bits of my story under these videos where it pertains to them, sorry about the long comments so often!) Thank you for another great analysis from both sides on this. I went through a similar type of fighting pattern with my father as an adult. I lived at home for a long time because of severe mental illness that disabled me, so I was still trying to get disability and it caused a lot of contention on top of the usual verbal abuse I'd dealt with most of my life. My father started arguments pretty often with me, my mom, or even a stranger that really ticked him off. He's stopped his truck in the middle of the road to run after some people on skateboards once because they cut him off, fist raised. At home, what that looked like was similar to what Johnny describes. My dad would start tearing me down because I'd slept too long that day (I'd just started anti-psychotics which are rough at first), or because I didn't clean the house well enough while he and mom were at work. He would start small, but begin lashing out verbally and his face would turn red while he was yelling at me, and degrading me as a person, and it was miserable. I'd start shaking and I knew if I didn't get away it would continue, so I would just turn around and walk toward my bedroom, since it was a small house and there weren't many places to go. I'd shut my door and lock it, fall on my bed with headphones on to block it out, and he'd stand at my door pounding on it and yelling through the door.
I believe Johnny totally when he tells this story. While I'm not a celebrity with a huge resort that had tons of rooms, my dad has chased me around a whole house, outside, and even pounding on the doors I'd hide behind. I am wondering if he should have been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder, especially since he'd get horribly jealous of me and my brothers when it came to spending time with my mom. Granted, I was given a diagnosis of BPD in my mid twenties, but I'm not even sure I actually have it because I've never been a violent or angry person, nor do I have many of the same reactions as people with BPD do. My dad though, I'm truly wondering. He has so much violent anger in him and a history of trauma.
I’m so looking forward to your review of AH’s testimony!😅👍
I’m so waiting for that!
IKR I'm so curious
I'm not lol. I'm more looking forward to her trashfire cross-examination.
@@underthegardenwall Yeah! Listening to her direct exam is twisted and hard to listen to. And the cross exam is on fire.👍
@@susang4507 Same, her testimony of lies had my blood boiling lol.
25:50 thank you, Dr Honda, for giving me my first real chuckle of the day 😂😂😭😭
I have a family member with borderline and just want to point out that personality disorders and addictions were weaponized for this trial causing huge stigma regardless of who wins.
Going back to my family member, my experience is that people with borderline (which can be easily misdiagnozed as histrionic because they can overlap specially in women) is that they are far more erratic than evil masterminds, I don't know if Amber could pull off some sort of plan of this dimensions with borderline. Or even have that many friends because people usually try to run the other way because of their behavior.
What I considered though, is that these "friends" only stayed because of the money, the all you can consume drug and wine buffet, along with the lifestyle with free penthouse and travel. We're only talking 15 months here, and ALL of them became close friends with her either just prior to relationship or during. Now they all say they're not friends with her, so I think money was a big factor.
Note that all of Amber's friends were described as previously friends in their depos. Basically as soon as the JD bennies stopped, their friendship dried up.
@@ravenshrike or, they've all ages by 6 years since the divorce, their lives have gone in different directions, and AH has had a baby recently.
@@ravenshrike she's still close with her acting coach of years, with her hairstylist that didn't even lived there, with her highschool friend, with her boy friend who knew her before she married JD. The coach lived with them for a bit just like his doctor, nurse and therapist, because they were working with them at the moment. Two of JD long-time band friends lived in his penthouses and one testified for Amber. Whitney lived with them but that's the sister.
@@sophiegriffin8351 You mean the acting coach who testified that she only contacted her 2 months before the deposition and proceeded to tell her the sexual assault story? That she has a hard time producing tears when trying to act like she's crying, which is exactly what was seen on the stand to the point that you had various news outlets photoshopping tears? That acting coach?
I think the sound that you've equated to someone chewing gum might be a sound made by the person typing down the transcript, but I'm not entirely sure if that's true. I really appreciate your stuff on UA-cam it's been really helpful for me as someone who's been unable to get medication for bipolar for the last few years due to not being able to get a psychiatrist. Thanks for all the good stuff you're doing man!!
The court sonographer is typing everything they say
Dude, prenups are common for people who aren't very rich if they have children from a previous relationship. If I were to get married again I would definitely want a prenup. I have five adult children, a paid-for house, and a decent retirement fund. It was irrational for him to get married without a prenup.
Last Thursday the lawyer Heard had arranged to set up the pre-nup testified that Depp swore at her and then sacked her. Depp's fault not Heard's.
🤣🤣🤣 I like how he had a mini breakdown about the “chewing” sounds… I hear but it sounds ringing bracelet
And to me it sounds like typing or a bad mic connection
My husband is an engineer and i was living paycheck to paycheck, before we got married we got all of the uncomfortable questions out the way, I brought up the prenup conversation and I told him I will agree to sign it, only be just... prenup is not that u will be left with nothing is a mutual agreement. He didn't wants one. But now we don't have to bring it up while married because we know where we stand
Good on both of you for discussing it.
I’m dead at the gum rant😂 pretty sure he’s spinning rings on his hand or it’s bracelets because it’s when his hands move
It’s the stenographer and Dr Honda has misophonia,
I think what happened is he wanted a prenup but if it gets too close to the wedding they can argue they were under pressure or duress so then they agreed they would do it after.
Amber convinced the doctor and nurse who were overseeing the detox and were actually on the island that she could administer the meds to Johnny. Therefore, if he was struggling, she could have always called the doctor to ask if she could go ahead and give it to him sooner or ask the doctor and nurse to come over. She was being evil.
Totally agree! They could have done an assessment over the phone or asked if they could do the dose earlier - which is common in detox facilities for things to get added and adjusted based on symptoms and severity
Apparently her phone only works randomly.
She can take pictures of perfectly hung pictures and supposedly black eyes as well as mirrors, but not actual injuries like cuts from glass or rings to her face. The phone also seems to work when she wants to send her husband 100 texts in like half an hour. It also seems to work when Johnny is sleeping, but not when he has vomited in his sleep as well as to send pics to her friends.
Maybe the phone didn't work when trying to call the dr..?
On a subconscious level, JD was probably inspired by or in awe of AH's refusal to be a victim of her childhood. If so, AH's behavior may have felt like the feminine protection he longed for as a child. The problem is that this protection began to attack him... in an all too familiar way. It attacked him like it attacked his father. The more I think about it, it's so sad.
Hadn’t thought of that but you make a very valid point. I hope they both can find a way to heal from their past
delusional, ur not even close to the reason. this feminist honda made 22 videos of useless opinion against men. if u hate men great. if u want real info on depp n amber. watch the case. not this clown
Some clinicians believe that we recreate situations until we heal those attachment wounds. I can say that I have done that until I realized. I’ve chosen to remain single because I didn’t know why I was making such bad choices in partners! But now that I have read many books and been in therapy, I am starting to understand what attracted me to these men who were similar to my father (who btw, likely had borderline personality disorder). So to me, it makes perfect sense that he married his mother, in a way.
That is the sound of lawyers gnashing their teeth, Doc. It is very triggering! lol!
STENOGRAPHER? she is sitting right off your screen by the witness stand
The court reporter is the person who writes down everything that everybody says in court. Wow! Can you imagine writing down all the words people say? The court reporter usually sits near the judge and types on a small machine.
They must use a short hand kind of text.. I wonder how she strikes a paragraph or several lines and then continues on so quickly. It must be a head wrecking job and listening to people rambling on..all the time people say hmm... no....am.... um...huh...can you repeat that...objection...sustained.. overruled.. .turd...😛
@@sula1529 yes,they use a special machine that does ot
I believe they're called stenographers.
@@bookmice5323 thank you!!!! I could not rememeber the word
I find your videos helpful insightful and interesting. One thing I keep coming to while watching is how many qualifiers you use in every instance trying to give both sides or trying not to side with one over the other. It gets heavily filled with possibility, could be, not necessarily. Just throwing this out that we absolutely know you are trying to be fair and balanced, we don’t need the constant qualifiers to keep your fair reputation. Just something I’ve noticed.
Dr. Honda the sound you’re hearing is the court stenographer lol 😂
His people should have made sure there wasn’t any alcohol in the house before having him stay there!
Idk Dr Honda, I'm detecting a hint of judgment from you but it seems pretty reasonable to me that he would relapse during an event when he's literally being screamed at verbally attacked and chased thru the house. Also he doesn't have your clinical vocabulary but he basically said he was completely overwhelmed and confused by what had happened and that's what drove him to go down there and drink.
And yeh it does seem rather normal to me that someone with his level of wealth would get a prenup. It does confuse me tho that he's made reference to lawyers doing things without his direct instruction, but idk maybe that's also something normal when you are megarich and have a bunch of lawyers on retainer who you've given broad powers to act in your interest 🤷🏽♀️
He says he learned later that her version of events was somewhat inaccurate.
She was in London, he was in Australia, so when she came to join him, she told a tall tale and threw tantrums.
They had discussed the prenup, and she had delayed in signing, so post-nup was the next logical step. There was no need for her to feel blindsided if she was thinking reasonably.
Later, in her testimony, she insists that it was _her_ who was pushing for the post-nup and him who was refusing. 🙄 As if!
@@politereminder6284 right! I read some other comments I remember now. I hope Dr Honda is able to get this context too so we can get a reaction from him based on a more accurate picture of what went down.
Dr. Honda, glad to find you via Legal Bytes. I watched probably 1/3 of your videos thus far, and subscribed in great appreciation of your content and ethical stance. While mental health providers do not offer “the arm chair diagnoses,” would you be concerned that Ms. Heart may present with psychopathy rather than BPD 1) if her testimony is untruthful; 2) if Mr. JD’s testimony fairly accurate in regards of sustained injuries? Hypothetically, of course. Do you still believe that she is distorting? I worked with patients/clients who met criteria for cluster B, including APD. Differences are very nuanced, and individuals with APD can also have long-standing fixations/feelings.
PS. Will continue to watch the rest of the videos. I wish you were my professor in family tx (sigh)
PSS. Two car accidents following Ambient AFTER the dose was adjusted for females (supposedly). Luckily, other people involved in my accidents weren’t injured, police officers were very supportive and I haven’t been penalized. I didn’t caused other accidents
The strongest commendation from Dr. Honda I've ever seen is the loud gum chewer 😂
(For the record I think it sounds like an electrical issue)
My money would be on the stenographers keybord.
Condemnation?
@@loknaz97 Yes, Judy is closest to the courtroom mics and JD.
ADHD or high sensibility and perception capabilities.
i think the lawyer she spoke to later testified in the trial that Johnny called her "Bitch" and fired her.
Prenup J. would keep everything he made going into the marriage. So if he had 100 million he'd keep that. but if he made 30 million on movies while they were together she'd get 15 or more if the judge honored it. And what she made too during that time.
He sacked the lawyer Heard had arranged to write the prenup. That lawyer testified on Thursday how Depp was drunk, swore at her and then sacked her. It is a bit ripe that Depp can then claim it was Heard's fault that the pre-nup was never set up.
They just got married back then! So I can assume that the scenario that makes most sense is that visiting the lawyer and providing a sample post-nup would have been a call to make sense of the lies and create a moment in which you can force some honesty out of someone who claims to be madly in love with you but belittles you and your family constantly. They just got married so I think it makes sense to want to find out if that all was a truthful decision. "Obsessed with the truth".
What boggles my mind is that AH is also a drunk and a drug addict. But she tries to pin it all on JD, and she's extremely self-righteous. She has thrown her dad, her sister, lawyers and friends unde the bus. I just don't understand who believes her. I came into this case thinking this was a mutual abusive relationship. And then I start hearing/seeing all the videos and tapes, including the case in Britain. And omg... Idk why there are some who believe her. I'm sure she's not lying about everything, but this woman is just too much. She needs help, and it's not to a "normal" person to save her. Personally, I feel she needs God, a higher belief other than herself.
Yup. Apparently his testimony cant be trusted because he drinks and uses drugs. But she "remembers everything" (except when she conveniently doesn't), even though she also drinks and uses drugs.
The outburst at around @25 was hilarious !!! I haven’t been noticing anything but after that , I put my ear closer to the speaker and started to hear it too! Lol
As a retired court operations officer chewing gum and rattling and reading newspapers was not allowed while court was in session! I have noticed Mr Depp is chewing something during the hearing.
Probably chewing nicotine chew since he is a smoker.
So the prenup/postnup thing: it’s true, Johnny is not confrontational and he probably doesn’t really care about the money situation. However, with his wealth, “his” money is not really his and a lot of people depend on him. So the idea probably didn’t necessarily came from him but from those around him. In a way to protect him and his wealth and his family and kids. So I don’t think he was too direct about because he wanted to avoid it but he knew it was necessary for the greater good. We are talking about hundreds of millions of dollars here…
As a nurse, if a patient was having an extreme reaction I would speak to their doctor. Why didn’t Amber have the humility to speak to Depp’s doctor and ask for help? I think she was enjoying the power of being needed.
As a nurse, do you always jump to conclusions?
@@AnnaKaunitz yes, and as a nurse and just a person, haha.. why did the doc put her in that position..seems like conflict of interest .. messed up..
@@AnnaKaunitz What conclusion did she jump to? As a nurse, she seeks advice from the doctor if reactions are outside the expected norm, and she wondered why Amber didn't do the same thing. No conclusions, just experience and a question.
@@AnnaKaunitz nurses are frequently not asked to be jurists because we have more knowledge than the general public about these kinds of situations.
She did. She was in contact with his doctor and his nurse. That part was verified.
Prior to me going from oral morphine to morphine delivered via an implanted intrathecal pump for pain management, I had to go through a trial spinal injected dose to see how my body would handle it, the doctor forgot to tell me that I needed to continue to take my oral dosage over the three days they were conducting the trail (over a Friday, Saturday and Sunday), which led to me going through "minor" withdrawal symptoms. If those were "minor" then I never want to have to go through "normal" or "major" withdrawal symptoms. It was horrendous and I am literally starting to relive that experience as with this discussion and listening to his testimony. It is no joke. It was absolute misery. I literally got through that the same way Johnny described. For me the song was "In a Darkened Room" by the band Skid Row. It's amazing what having someone to focus on can and will do. I equate it to meditation, which I have used at various times to help try and control my pain levels.
❤ the gum rant, lol. Emily D Baker had the same one!
Thank you for your kind but open perspective.
Wheb I worked in hospitals it annoyed me that surgeons would prescribe patients opiates but then have no taper off plan for the meds
Dr honda I think you are missing so much information 😅not trying to be mean.
This was actually her lawyer who gave her the news not Jonnys.
And he wanted that taken care of to protect his children more than anything.
I think the clicking sound is the court reporter typing.
I think you are giving amber too much credit on intentions based on what I have heard her say in testimony. But I really appreciate your insight and kindness. You are awesome!
I’m as obsessed with this Dr as I am with this trial lately lol
Did Dr Honda miss the fact that Johnny said that Amber made up the story of the lawyer and a post nup ?
I think he said that she lied to him about his lawyers being offensive or offering a bad deal. She was so upset it seemed the marriage would end over it so he calls up both sets of lawyers to fire them and commences the drinking. She says he got upset at the mere mention of a post-nup because he was afraid to lose her. That's rubbish of course, I hope we agree on that much.
For one, Amber says she had instructed her own lawyer to draft a post-nup which I think she believes makes her look good but it's absolutely not. The high value partner drafts the prenup because she or he can identify what assets they want to protect. When the lower income partner does it, it's because they want a rigorous negotiation over assets.
Yeh it was at the very end of the clip and Dr Honda didn't react seemed like he didn't even catch that I was like wait Dr Honda did you hear what I just heard lol
@@jakestroll6518 ohhh that makes more sense, was that in the same clip?
@@jakestroll6518 I get this but Dr Honda speculated on how Johnny was being passive aggressive by asking for a post nup and Amber got upset cos of the rude lawyer and Johnny before he mentions he goes for 3 shots of vodka told the court that he insulted the lawyer only to discover it never happened, the altercation between Amber and the lawyer never happened or did I get it wrong?
Also to add… I love your explanations and compassion 🙏 you’re a wonderful teacher and person 🙏 thank you
Amber knew about the postnup, it was her own lawyer, not his. Amber didn't like something in the postnup and went to Johnny about it. He essentially believed what Amber said and this made him call her lawyer, scream at the lawyer and fire her. Which he couldn't actually do but her lawyer accepted it without question, which was odd for the lawyer to do.
the noise you ar hearing is the court stenographer, she sits next to the witness stand and records a transcript of the Court
Argh. I wish he'd have realized it was HER lawyer that SHE hired for the pre/post. A lot of the commentary about that aspect is based upon a false assumption it was his lawyer and out of the blue - when it was not.
he knew, he knows how to manipulate viewers.
Dr Honda - you are so kind. Thank you. ❤