Johnny Depp v Amber Heard #23 - (Finger) - Therapist Reaction
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Dr. Kirk Honda reacts to the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard trial.
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10:00 Borderline individuals have empathy (just impaired by unsafety), Too much self blame. Psychopathic. Self centered explanations
16:46 Guitar
20:50 Lying about physical abuse is common
23:25 More reasons why one lies about being physically abused
25:15 Honda's informal ranking of physical abuse, second bottle is not an impulse, not unusual to not remember why a fight started
I am struggling with this as a partner to someone with bpd. He has horrific child abuse stories...he was in foster care his entire childhood. I can confirm his birth parents were both unstable. I can confirm his attachment issues are intense and it flips into you being the abuser in their mouth during an episode...but lying to another about what I did with me as the abuser?!?!!! That happens?!?! If very common, that is concerning.
@@HeatherFaraMS you can't fix them unless they want to be fixed. The trauma makes them very difficult to get through to. Come up with a plan to get out safely. Remember all your documentation.
The evidence in the trial if you listen seems to suggest that Johnny is lying about the finger.
1. The doctor pointed out that his fingernail was not injured at all. This is impossible if it was hit while resting on a surface .
2. The doctor pointed out that in his medical records by Johnny's doctor, no glass was removed from anywhere on his hand and no cuts anywhere else on his hand.
3. Amber believes he cut his finger smashing a phone made to look old fashioned on the wall. It was made of hard plastic .if being smashed it would have produced sharp shards. This makes more sense to the injury being under the finger nail.
4. He tried to lie about smashing the phone and was caught lying about it. He had admitted already to this phone crushing In the UK trial. Why attemp to lie in this trial?.
5. He wants to blame Amber for the finger injury ,because he wants an exuse for all the demented evidence of painting on furniture, lamp shades ,mirrors, art work. Ect. Crazy behavior. This is an event that Amber claims he raped her with a bottle. He desperately needs to explain his crazy painting up the house, otherwise her story could be believable. His state of mind does not look good.
6. He told his doctor that HE cut his finger.. He also texted a friend and said the same thing. But the real kicker is that in a recording with Amber, with just the 2 of them in the room, he was talking about this Australian event and clearly said he cut his finger off. No way would he have not pointed out to her that she was the one who cut his finger. They were discussing each other's failings at the time. It would have matched the conversation if he told her that she cut his finger.
7. In another conversation recorded, Amber says to Johnny that he needs to find someone else to put out his cigarettes on. Why is she saying this? I think Johnny has burnt himself with cigarettes before. I think he did it himself. He has these pictures
Of finger and burn, he needs to explain them. He lied about the phone, he's lying about the finger and burn. other evidence suggests this.
8. I would like to point out that I believe he concocted this story by observing pics of the scene where the bloody tissue is laying on the floor next to the bar. That's why he thought up the story of being sitting there when it happened. But one needs to ask ,where did he get the tissue from? His pocket? There was no tissue or paper towels visible on bar in picture. He more than likely retrieved it from somewhere else. Therefore if he was sitting in that spot when hit he more than likely had to move from that spot to get the tissue. What are the odds that it ends up in the spot where he can prove his story of sitting at the bar ,in that spot. It's more likely that that's just where he dropped the bloody tissue before starting his painting spree. The story was concocted to match the pic where the bloody tissue was left.
I look at the evidence....I don't believe him.
he asked for a pre-nup, then post-nup,
and even maybe an annulment...so worried she wasn't even in his will
she's lucky she didn't get charged with
"glassing", which is a major offense in
Australia~but, she got away with the dog smuggling thing~he protected her
from that as well as not ratting her out on the bottle incident
This has been my favorite reaction series.
Thank you for all your hard work you’ve put into this, Dr. Honda and Stacy.
Same!! I used to be excited about every episode upload but now when it's not the trial I feel a bit disappointed xD I still watch it and I like it but this is definitely my favourite reaction series as well
Same! I just feel like it's easier to take seriously because it's "real life" and not reality tv drama with sound effects and music, which in turn makes it more educational.
Same. I've enjoyed Dr Honda's reactions and takes
Yes! I second that. I think I got drawn into this to process some emotion. And it's great to have a relatable, rational, balanced, and extremely informed psychological conversation about it.
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
I threw one plastic water bottle, once, and I was shocked and horrified at myself. I did it bc I felt so betrayed, hurt, and disappointed and I'd been getting yelled at for over a full hour. My ex had gone off his meds and was having a full on meltdown. After all his promises, couples therapy and getting a diagnosis for him, and having months and months of a wonderful loving husband, he went off his meds.
Yea I get that sense of betrayal 💯
Imo, it makes sense that he did because maybe he thought that was the next step.
(Edit: its distorted thinking)
' Things were going so well, what's the harm of not taking meds and living like this without a "crutch" '?
Just my opinion.
I can't say I understand the weight but sometimes so much responsibility over a period of time can be burdensome and all you want to do is relax on that weight and responsibility only this action of him not taking his meds is irresponsible.
Who knows what the husband has but you; and it's good you checked yourself because an action will always trump a word; even a set of words.
(Although I understand that words can be triggering you and constsnt berating can be utterly obnoxious, nauseating, and destressing. It still doesn't justify physical action unless it restricts a person doing harm to one's self or another and even then... )
Throwing things isn't good. It's matching a man with self-control & mental issues; who is having a meltdown that he cannot control.
You both can't be having a meltdown.
You might have to de-personalize.
Even if you have to take a break and refrained from the stress, it's much better to strategize to a better option.
Despite you both being together he has problems that are his responsibility & you you're responsibility. It's one thing to affirm your life nut have boundaries for when he does stuff like this.
'I don't think she refutes this story'... (presumably because we all heard that audio buuuuuuut that wasn't allowed into evidence.) Oooooh Dr H, I'm excited for you to learn more.
Also, nice haircut!
If that thing with the cigarette is true, the reason it changes your view is that it is a deliberate and possibly sadistic act. Although, it is not possible to know who is telling the truth here sadly.
It’s so unfortunate that this is a case between a world class actor and a terrible one. It could very well be that her lies are easier to spot because she’s so bad at her job compared to Johnny.
@@slaphappyduplenty2436 If she'd just said, "Johnny slapped me a few times," I would've been so much more likely to believe her because that could line up with her mild injuries. But when she's making him out as if he's Jack the Ripper, it is SO easy to spot the lies and therefore assume that she's lying about everything else. Because like, true victims only want their truth to be told, not to fabricate these insane lies to get sympathy.
In the beginning of this trial, I felt very little compassion or sympathy when Amber would testify and I wasn’t sure if it was just my own issues I was projecting onto her or if it was because she truly isn’t being genuine…but the more I hear the more obvious it seems to me that she is the abuser and is lying and manipulating to play the victim. Wait til you hear more of her testimony and the phone calls…her behavior is beyond cruel
How about everything depp did and wrote to and about her
@@Lb-kf2ze I don’t feel like debating with you or anyone. No one knows the truth except JD & AH. I was just sharing my personal reactions so far
No worries. Though I do feel as though commenting opens up the floor to discussion.
Yeah...if I didn't know this case inside-out, I would NEVER have thought someone as vindictive and calculating like Amber could exist. Like sure, I could absolutely believe she smashed JD's finger on accident, but the fact that she's writing taunting messages on the mirrors and smushing cigarettes out on his face right afterwards while her husband is that injured makes me believe she doesn't have BPD - she's just a bad person imo.
@@underthegardenwall that was depp who wrote the messages
Is that the strokes and mgmt on your bookshelf?
“I don’t think she refutes this story” - Oh, doctor, you sweet summer child. Just you wait. Her version is wild.
Amber refutes what she said on previous day. Amber refutes her own words even when they are played back to her on video...
I cannot WAIT for him to get to Amber's testimony. The secondhand embarrassment is coming soon to a theatre near us.
Sweet summer child 😂
Sweet summer child 😂😂😂😂
Why is Dr. Honda playing coy?
I really can't wait on your opinion about David Spiegel, the psychiatrist 🤯
The EVMS psychiatrist?
@@acd1168 Yesss 😂
that was…something for sure
All I could think of was “Well Dr. Kirk is going to have a field day with this one”
Yass
7:54
This perfectly describes my mother whenever she has an episode. It confused me like no other when I was a kid because she would tell me all she wanted was a hug, but kid me was afraid of her because she was screaming at me, putting me down or saying I didn't love her, physically threatening me or throwing things at me, etc., It's a little difficult, especially as a child, to look at that and conclude that you should approach that person and give them a hug.
I can't wait for Dr Honda to react to the so called "expert witness" Psychiatrist that Amber Heard's team put on the stand today. The reaction video will be GLORIOUS. That guy was something else. Can't wait to hear a legitimate professional, who has dignity and great standards, opine on that quack and his behavior on the stand 😵💫
Agreed - Kirk, you're going to love Dr. David Spiegel's take on the legitimacy of diagnosing vs. evaluating from afar and presenting findings as an expert. His claim is that if the courts didn't endorse evaluation via public media, all expert witnesses would be out of work. He was even claiming to gain psychological hints from watching Depp in the Pirates movies.
Now THAT IS going to be very interesting to see. Can’t wait ..
I know! My first thought was "Dr. Honda would not stand for this!!!"
Agreed! I learned from Dr Kirk that 1.) you keep clean detailed notes AND 2.) you can’t diagnose from afar.
Lmao I was screaming this 😭😭😭😭 and I accidentally scared my cat rip💀
I CAN'T WAIT 🙌🙌🙌🙌
Her putting the cigarette out on his face really got me too. So shocking
I feel the same about the cigarette burn. I know IPV involves a lot of more objectively serious injuries and that an abusive person doing that is sadly very common, but there is something indescribably cruel and dehumanizing to me about putting out a cigarette on someone. It just sends a chill down my spine.
Exactly. I think because it’s SO intentional and purposeful. You don’t do that accidentally. She’s vile
I had not thought about this before, but yes, this is worse, in that he is completely disarmed, (not a pun) he is helpless, in a shock-induced stupor; in other words, defenseless.
She tried to turn it around and say that johnny puts out cigarettes on himself and that he threw one at her. But it didn't seem believeable to me, like a lot of her testimony
@@lelaamboko3591 She doesn't even smoke. He is a chain smoker. Yet it sounds more plausible that she is the one smoking and throwing her cigarettes around? lol
JD has a history of self harming. Yet, his supporters refuse to believe he is capable of putting a cigarette out on himself when he is drunk and wasted on drugs. Amazing.
@@tellthetruthna8523 She took the vodka bottle he was drinking from and smashed it into his hand. You think it's not possible she grabbed a cigarette he was smoking from his hand and smushed it out on his face?
I think in this particular case, it would be useful for you to check out the recording made after the incident. it wasn't allowed in the trial because there are more voices on the recording aside from Amber's, including from one of Johnny's bodyguards who has passed away since then and so wouldn't have been able to be called to testify. On the recording, Amber admits to causing his finger injury. Which makes the story she tells on the stand during this trial even crazier than it already was to begin with.
His description of what he felt immediately after he lost his finger is relatable. I went through a glass window and I didn't think I got cut until I felt warmth almost hot all over my arms then I felt dripping from my finger tips. I looked down and my arms were covered in blood.
Same. A radio antenna fell on my forehead from 15-20 feet height. Cut skin, dented bone, but all i felt was a flush of heat and the tickle of the blood trickle. No actual pain until many hours later.
Yeah, I cut my head open with a pair of non-thinned-down glasses that sliced into it just above my eye/by my eyebrow when I didn't slow down when I skied down a slope and skied straight into the sign for the ski lift, very fast, hitting it with my head, hahaha. I remember my first feeling was "How embarrassing!" until I noticed the snow was all covered in blood and then I felt heat rather than cold. And I certainly didn't immediately feel pain. In fact, I am sure I felt pain at some point, but I don't recall ever feeling pain at the time (in recovery, yes - pain then). I recall feeling sick, but not pain.
Incidentally, I also crushed my fingers once - albeit it was only the tips. My Mum and I had a taxi booked that was arriving soon and were off on a trip and she said "Oh, will you just go and get some change from the car in case we need it?" so I ran out, opened the garage, got the change and I was in a rush as I knew the taxi was coming soon, so instead of closing the garage at first from the inside and then by the handle on the outside, I just shoved all 8 fingers between the slats on the garage door and pulled down... only then realsing what an idiot I was as the folding kind of accordion door situation obviously closed on all 8 fingers and not only was it very painful, but my first thought was how was I going to get out of this as I was obviously also now stuck with both hands and couldn't move the door to get my fingers out. It was very painful, but no blood. I lost feeling in all my fingertips for a month or so.
I mention that as oh no Doctor Honda, Amber does not agree with events here at all. It is one of the things I find most troubling about this case - there is I think zero common ground and their stories are simply 100% opposite.
I am not sure which Amber's team alleges happened here, but I know there has been talk of:
- Johnny crushed his finger in accordion doors (like his initial lie, hence my sharing my experience of that kind of injury)
- Johnny crushed his own finger with an antique phone (I haven't seen any photos of said phone, so not sure of any more details)
- Johnny cut off his own finger (with a knife?)
@@anonanon7067
Hahaha you just reminded me with your ski injury....my hubby once had decided to do a pub crawl with his brother, and between pubs realized he had forgotten his wallet so he ran out the cab, across our lawn, dodged a tree branch, ran into the house, but failed to dodge the same tree branch on the way back to the cab, got aggreasively clotheslined by the tree, and on my waking up up the next day, found him convalescing on the couch with 2 black eyes, one very blood shot eye, a scab just above the bridge of his nose, and a very very goofy grin across his face claiming victory over a 60 foot tree. Yeah the tree is still there bearing a sign "Warning Attack Tree" to this day.
my dad was shot just above his ankle when he was in the army and he said the exact same thing, didn't even notice it happened but he felt heat and it wasnt until he and the other people he was with were back to safety that one of the guys asked what happened to him because he was covered in blood and thats when he connected the dots and realised he was shot, took him almost 40 minutes and thats when he actually felt pain, he said it was almost like he saw the blood and his brain was like "okay im supposed to be in pain now"
Yep, I got lacerated by a bottle (also vodka, accident). I didn't feel anything until a few seconds after I saw the flesh inside of my arm. 5 stitches. I wonder is this shock? Any medical professionals in the chat?
Dr. K, I can tell this is taking a toll on you. Thanks for doing this. It does help to hear a sound-minded take on this dumpster fire.
Dr Honda. Whenever you get there during ambers cross examination there’s an audio tape that’s played where amber is taunting Johnny and has a very disturbing laugh. It’s was really difficult to listen too
THE LAUGH
It's horrible to listen to,....pure evil and hate. Weird.
It reveals her love affair with sadism.
Victims fight back. Get over it.
I can't wait for Dr. H to get to that recording, its disturbing. Also the one where they are in the car and he wants to go in a house, to see his daughter. Amber begs him to stay. She says him leaving '
causes her "so much stress". You can hear how desperate she is to keep him near. To me it screams borderline. Her terror of abandonment on full display. His promises to come back in an hour, a couple hours or so are of no comfort. She claimed in testimony she was afraid he was going to use drugs but there is zero indication of that in the recording. Just a woman inconsolably pleading with him to stay in her presence.
Amber’s team had a psychiatrist testify today. He was incredibly unethical, and I can’t wait to see your reaction! 😬
How do you follow the trial my whole FYP is full with reactions but not the trial itself.
@@cenceray Sky News, Court TV or the best coverage is Emily D Baker, she's an attorney very good you can watch her whole coverage of the trial
@@user-sx6eu4rg2x ty
Psychiatrist* He’s a medical doctor.
And his whole testimony was wild…like I don’t ascribe to all the AMerican Psychiatric Associations ethical guidelines and they aren’t rules just guides…like what???
I think he was bad on the stand. But I wouldn’t say unethical
After hearing the recording of the doctors coming onto the scene of this event and amber on the recording it really lines up with Johnny's story
💯
That is inadmissible tho right? Which sucks because it proves everything JD is saying.
Absolutely nothing lines up with his story. Stop lying.
100% lines up with Johnny’s descriptions
Poor Johnny. I didn’t mean to she said.
U should watch her depo from 2016 and then watch her depo this trial and u could see how she is acting as a victim in trial when in her depo in 2016 she is listening to the recordings of her hitting Johnny and then smiling and rolling her eyes but in this Trial her whole demeaner changed and she is acting like a totally different person and her story keeps changing and she is being invistigated for prejury in 3 different countries. Johnny on the other hand his story has been consistent and he didn't change his story once in the past 6 years.
I watched it and I have no idea what in the heck you're talking about. I think you guys just spread these lies hoping that no one who sees your comment will bother to look at it. She looked like a scared, hurt, abused woman. Stop defending a drug addict who has a history of violence and erratic behavior. It's pathetic.
Exactly qft she’s such a psychotic lying monster
I watched it too and I got the same feeling as No X. I was on Amber Heard's side at the beginning, because I couldn't imagine someone lying about things like that. But the more I see and hear, the more I am getting upset. Her stories just don't add up. Not at all.
Good grief. He changed his story about this very incident. He told the ER docs he smashed his finger in an accordion door which the orthopedic surgeon testified would be consistent with this injury. He told the truth the first time. He is lying now.
@@tellthetruthna8523 I'm not sure if you're blatantly leaving out that Johnny Depp rescinded his initial statement about the accordion door because he said he didn't want to get Amber Heard in trouble at the time, or if you're ignorant about it and are angrily drawing conclusions without this information. I will say that the only people who know "the truth" are Depp and Heard - not you.
I don't understand how punching a phone would sever a finger tip? Also in the photos of his hands...his knuckles are fine.
@@tagz12345 It really didn’t because there wasn’t a phone where she said there was, the pictures she took didn’t show a phone there, and the guy that was responsible for repairs said there wasn’t a phone there.
@@tagz12345 how are his other fingers uninjured??
@@tagz12345 you can look up the recording of her admitting that she hurt him on yt. unfortunately, it wasn't admitted on court cuz it has other people talking
@@tagz12345 and yet she has ostensibly lied when it was easy to prove, i.e. the donation.
@@tagz12345 have you heard the audio of her hysterical saying “I didn’t mean it” after Johnny was taken to hospital but other ppl were present which I think dr kipper is there and says to the nurse “this sounds like guilt” and saying to the nurse they will have to cover for her…
As for Amber’s recolection you might be in for some surprises, dr. Honda.
I appreciate your experiences so much! 🙏🏽
Yes I'm hoping that he can get to Amber's testimony soon.
I believe Dr. Honda thinks Amber doesn’t or can’t dispute the bottle incident because he heard her on the audio admitting to it. He doesn’t know that the recording wasn’t allowed into evidence because it has voices other than Amber and Johnny on it.
He’s in for a surprise.
@@brutusjudas5842 He's unaware that amber disputes literally every little thing that could possibly be seen as negative, including that she would never accept using JD's credit card even lmao...like cmon i've been broke in relationships and we still share credit card
@@nGUNNARp fair point, Nick. 😂
This might be my favorite youtube comment ever.
I was so hoping you would get to the bit with stubbing the cigarette on his face- takes it to a whole new level - who would do this to an injured person?! All I can think is she must have been drugged up to the eyeballs- I heard reports she had taken a cocktail of different things! What if there had been a knife to hand in the bar - I think he's lucky to have escaped with his life.
Like that knife she gave him as a gift, for instance.
He is the one who self harms. I believe he put the cig out on himself during one of his psychotic/wasted episodes just as she testified. She is on audio saying he tried to put a cig out on her and he didn't dispute it.
@@tellthetruthna8523 AH is a sociopath. She lies.
@@sheribellagee9998 I think she planned on killing him at some point. She's a sociopath.
@@katieforeman7947 Not one expert has testified she is a sociopath. Why are you making things up? Only one of all the psych experts (Dr. Curry) has testified she has any kind of personality disorder and Dr. Curry's testimony has been so badly destroyed that JD's team has to put her back in the box to try to rehabilitate her.
I have watched 2 docs testify that she suffers from PTSD only, and that is the result of the IPV she suffered at the hands of JD. There may be another expert who will testify consistent with the PTSD diagnosis.
I’ve been abused and I watched the entire trial and watched testimony multiple times. I still get goosebumps watching Johnny Depp’s testimony because it’s so obvious that he was abused. She’s trying to gaslight everyone when she testified.
I’m so sorry this happened to you, I hope you weren’t triggered by the trial. Out of curiosity what are your thoughts on ambers recollection of alleged abuse perpetrated by JD
I def agree she seems to still have longing for him. Idk if it was sincere or not bc it's hard to know w her. But there have been numerous times where she's waxed poetic about some of her time w him. And in those moments she seemed genuine I think. But again I don't know what to believe w her.
Anytime she described Johnny as "magical," her face would light up in the most cheesy way as if she was trying to pitch a rom-com. Super weird considering she'd JUST been talking about the violent things he'd done to her.
You’re right Dr H the other people in the room did say “Get her out of here!” The Australian recording of the Dr and Nurse talking to Amber is online where Amber is crying and apologizing and the other two discuss what she did to JD. She threw that bottle and caused that damage even if it was an accident and she didn’t mean to, it did happen that way. But I wonder what your reaction will be to her version of the story.
Well said great points
And they have to make sure they send someone she can’t manipulate and is strong when they sent her ass back to LA
It feels that when you go deep in this trial you understand why people are so much on his side. It is not because we are his fans as media pretends, but we heard the audios and saw their testimonies and it shows who is the abuser. As always thanks for your insights.
^^^^^^
exactly!!!
I swear Dr Honda is the Bob Ross of psychologists. 👏
I would love to hear what your thoughts are Amber Heard's second expert psychologist. He didn't meet Johnny in person, but tried to diagnose him with narcissistic traits. Johnny's lawyer called into question the ethics of doing this.
Cited he was doodling and eating candy, I'm still laughing about that. As I was eating candy and doodling when he said it.
Psychiatrist, not a psychologist
Yeah I haven’t watched the full thing but was like what is even the point of having him?
Dr Honda, PLEASE. Please react to what happened today in court. So many people are in awe what we saw from so called "expert witness" from Ambers team. If we thought doctor Hughes was biased, this doctor makes her look like the most pro-Depp person ever. That expert was acting erratic, was super boastful about his credentials ("nice plug for my book"), he argued about ethical rules for diagnosing someone he never met, he freaking called Depp an idiot and admitted to looking at only evidence from one side that was represented to him in wrong way (said ice cream photo was presented to him as vomit photo).
I have some mental problems, I am fighting myself to finally go and at least try to find someone that will help, and your videos has helped me to trust therapists a bit more, but goddamn seeing that expert makes me think, what if I go for help and on the other side of the desk will be someone like him. How common are peoppe like him?
How are any of these people biased if Depp refuses to release his own psychiatric information. Or if people are forced to surmise because his doctor said all his drug tests were "lost in flood"? Or he won't release any of his medical data? What is Depp hiding?
Both those experts were extremely highly qualified so I think there is more actual assessment than so called bias. If they had bias, that would show befoe they even assesed anything. Both came to a conclusion based on their seasoned experience and it so happens to be one you don't like.
@@sB-wt5ov I don't care about conclusion. Depp is deeply flawed, and has problems, I have nothing in opposition towards negative opinions of him. But come on, have you seen this experts testimony? If he was testifying about Amber on Johnnys behalf I would say the same thing 100%. Is it professional to call someone an idiot? Is it ethical to provide psychiatric evaluation on someone that you haven't ever talked to? Was his behaviour on stand professional? When talking about his credentials and expertise he muttered "thanks for the plug of my book" or something to that extent (paraphrasing).
To reiliterate so you understand, I ask dr Honda to react to this "expert" as another mental health professional, I am not talking about WHAT he was testifying to, but how he was doing it and how did he come to those conclusions. For gods sake he said in his deposition that he used Depps movies to see his speech baseline (and later tried to backtrack), that is not ethical!
@@ArtMontef If you knew, that you knew that you knew hat was going on I think you might be a bit more disgusted, too. Just a wild guess why 2 superexperts would have little patience to allow for even a little justification of the type of abuse Amber was and is subject to.
@@ArtMontef But I respect your curiosity. Just blurbing my opinion on it. Sorry if that derailed your intention with your post. Really, Im sorry
I'm really looking forward to you getting to Amber's testimony. She describes the Australia incident much differently, completely differently than the recording where you hear her apologizing and saying she didn't do it on purpose.
On the stand she denied her part completely, insisted that he abused her horrifically, threw her around the room and dragged her naked through broken glass, repeatedly punched her face and ultimately committed SA on her with a liquor bottle. It's difficult to believe that any human could survive that, let alone come through it without any scars.
She took pictures only of the mirror he wrote on with his blood/paint and there are 0 pictures of her supposed injuries. Even though a private doctor and nurse were there for the aftermath, she has no records of medical treatment.
His description of the injury is accurate.
I accidentally trimmed my left fingertips with a table saw.
There was no pain, it was very hot, and there was fluid running dripping everywhere.
Also, I had an enormous adrenaline rush. Made bungee jumping seem like afternoon tea.
He definatly lost his finger. No one is saying that he didn't. There is some contention about how he lost it.
@@angellover02171 An orthopedic surgeon testified that it could not have happened the way JD described. It didn't make sense to me either.
How is it possible that people just believe what he says, no questions asked, when he was completely wasted and out of his mind during this 3 day bender? Writing obscenities on walls in his own blood. He completely trashed the place but she's the one who is out of control? This whole story is bs.
@@tellthetruthna8523 You're right I'm tired of Depps lies just being believed out of nothing. The doctor that testifed for Heard and the doctor in Austrailia that testifed in the UK both said his injurires are crush injuries not slices. Also he had no other cuts/marks from the glass that broke on his hand.
i agree! I once cut my palms all the way to my middle finger. I could see my epidermis. I didn’t feel pain, it was just warm. It stung when it was cleaned, but no pain.
Yeah a saw table. It’s almost impossible for a thrown bottle to cut off a finger clean. Physics don’t work like that.
28:45 I don't think that people aren't thinking/talking about Depp alleges Heard did to him in Australia. I think it's more like the horrific nature of what Ms. Heard alleges contrasted badly with her mannerisms & overall affect.
From a layperson's POV, Depp appeared believable, sympathetic & coherent in his testimony, whereas Heard was insincere, somewhat arrogant & inconsistent in her descriptions of events.
He also explained things how they could logically happen. If his story is true, it plays out exactly as it would. Her version of the story is physically impossible. Not only was it not possible based on the bottle, but she would be dead, as she did not seek medical attention. Supposedly sleeping it off. And then she went to ballet practice, her feet supposedly shredded and her female organs in an indescribable amount of pain.
They actually showed pictures of the finger with the missing chunk in today's portion of the trial!
And, testified that it could not have happened in the way Depp claims as there were no glass fragments nor injuries to to the front face of his finger.
@@ek7390 heard supporter huh? 🙄
She admitted to doing it in a tape
@@ek7390 clearly you didn’t pay attention to the whole trial and cross, or the evidence.
@@ek7390 Clearly didn't watched the cross-examination
Dr H 💛you are in for a crazy ride when you finally get to Amber testimony, can not wait!
Amber claims that Johnny himself cut his finger off - she had like 3 versions how that happened but none of them aligns with JD testimony.
When you get to Amber's testimony - one small detail - Amber's OWN witness - her acting coach - has testified that she always knew when Amber was really crying because when Amber was acting crying, she could not produce tears - she always struggled with it.
what are the 3 different versions
@@ania5038 Let's not forget that she claims she wasn't even there when it happened (she says she was upstairs), but then she says he did it by smashing a phone into the wall. So was she there or not? The mental gymnastics of this woman...
His description sounds believable when he says "this is not life". Those who have gone through horrible traumatic events can tell, the most sane thought at that very moment is "this can't be real, this can't be happening, this is my life, this is real?" it feels surreal, and you feel helpless because you know the damage is now done
I appreciate Dr Honda's empathy...I can tell he doesn't anticipate what Amber does with this story. He gives her credit (where none is due IMO). Interesting to watch.
What’s interesting is that Johnny Depp stated Whitney (Amber’s sister) got in between them to prevent Amber from being violent. Whitney has said that’s not the case, her account is mostly the same as Amber’s (except for a few details). Whitney’s boss/friend Jennifer Howell is set to testify that Whitney told her (and others in the office) that she was trying to prevent Amber from hitting Johnny in that incident. That completely lines up with Johnny’s story and that if others present at the time. She also said she was terrified of Amber, had endured physical abuse from Amber growing up, had recently had a glass thrown at her by Amber, said she didn’t know how Johnny tolerated all of the abuse, etc.
The interesting thing is that Whitney claims Johnny hit her in the back. So Johnny is right that she was facing Amber, not him. Why would Whitney have her back towards him if he was hitting Amber? That makes no sense. If you intervene in a conflict, you face the attacker, you don’t show them your back. Jennifer’s report of Whitney telling her Amber was hitting Johnny and her stepping in to protect Johnny from Amber, seems much more logical to this scenario.
She's saying he did it himself. She said he was smashing a phone receiver against the phone repeatedly and that's what caused the injury. Johnny's testimony along with recordings proves her lying.
That's just what she said in this trial. She told her acting coach he did it with a bottle. I think in the UK trial she said she didn't know how it happened she was "locked in a bathroom".
Also, there were no pictures of a broken phone in ANY of the photos. AT ALL. But all the broken glass. And blood and tissues JD used to try to stop the bleeding. They try to claim there was some cleaning which means they think we are stupid enough to believe that they ONLY cleaned the phone and all the so called tiny pieces of the phone- but left the glass, blood drops, and tissues. Her story never makes any sense. Oh, and on cross she is confronted about this- she then tried to say ALL pieces of the brutally shattered phone stayed in one area and were behind the person taking the photo. She seriously thinks everyone is an idiot and she is so so smart.
@@lapaloozie1618 Yep, her account of this incident has drastically changed at least 4 times. But the true kicker for me is that she alleges she was dragged slipping and sliding through shards of broken glass that day and she herself says, "My feet were pretty badly sliced up." Yet she can be heard STOMPING around the house in that Australia recording, and I'm like, seriously?! Can't believe Amber stans are refusing to acknowledge these glaring inconsistencies.
@@underthegardenwall I know, right! Her account of every incident i have heard so far is unbelievable. At least according to the evidence she has submitted or pictures of her the next day or following weeks. I know that wounds and bruises are different for everybody but they usually follow some logical reasoning. If she is telling the truth she is iron man!
@@lapaloozie1618 Exactly. AND she submitted two photos that were 100% identical (hair strands in the same place, same eye angle, same shadows) except one of them had boosted saturation, yet she insists they were different photos. 95% of all her claims have been thoroughly debunked in this way, yet deranged Amber fans just harp on about Johnny's drug use lol.
I wanting to hear about The expert psychologist they had on today. Every meds he talked about and everything he said about ppl taking it. I don’t want to take my meds now. I don’t want ppl think of me as a addict. Which I have never been. I am truly upset about this
Please check with your doctor. That guy was clearly biased.
Listening to him also made me upset :,(
I only caught some of what he said, but what I did was infuriating.
He commented about Depp taking 45 mg of Adderall/day and that exceeding the max dose which meant he couldn't be taking it for ADHD (Dr also failed to mention at any point that Depp HAS ADHD). And, yes, it's technically true that exceeds the max dose for an adult of 40 mg/day BUT max dose recommendations aren't absolutes. Dr's have the discretion to exceed them and routinely do, it's not particularly uncommon there is just likely more precautions (for example, I'm on a medication that can be increased beyond the max dose but you need to have an EKG to make sure the increase is safe). It's similar to off-label usages - technically they aren't "recommended" but they are very common and legitimate applications.
He also said Depp was taking downers of some sort along with his "uppers" (aka his ADHD meds) and that again this was evidence of abuse and not legit treatment. But, again, it isn't that uncommon to be given some type of anti-anxiety medication to take with Adderall bc it can significantly increase anxiety. That is absolutely not the PREFERRED treatment, you should attempt to find an ADHD treatment with manageable side effects that don't necessitate additional medication but it's hardly unheard of. I know people who have ADHD meds prescribed and also take Xanax to manage the anxiety resulting from their ADHD medication.
The "expert" they had today seemed particularly eager to label everything as abuse/addiction instead of legitimate medical treatment while most responsible medical specialists are very cautious about labeling people that way. It doesn't help anyone to demonize pharmaceutical treatment of legitimate medical conditions. Your life won't be better by refusing to take medication you need.
@@Sana-jb5zu 🥺hugs
Yeah, no kidding. And worse, that some rando shrink can read your actual therapist notes and diagnose you without ever having met you.
The writing on the wall thing makes SO much sense to me. It’s such an “artist” thing to do. He is a painter too. And to injure his hand that plays guitar? Music/guitar being his constant companion and comfort.. I truly get his reaction. The “nervous break down” doesn’t seem out of line. Makes sense-not in the most helpful way for him- but..I do get it. I really do. 🫣🥺
Oh my goodness yes. Very classic Moody artist
@@lexzyland Stop romanticizing mental illness. Painting obscene and threatening messages to and about your wife in blood is not "artistic." It's sick and abusive.
@@tellthetruthna8523 sounds like you have never been there. 🤷♀️
I believe when asked about "leaving messages" he replied something like "well yes, I thought it WAS good advice" and as far as I can see, he tossed her dressing room racks and shoes but notice she only has those photos, his guards prevented escalation when he or she were both gaslighting. IMO
Let me get this straight..You’ve heard the Australia audio and you still think her story might be true?
Do you remember that according to her story she would then be walking around with her feet sliced up by glass and having been dragged through glass etc?
Because her entire Australia narrative happened before that audio recording.
How on earth would she be able to walk around if her story was true? 🤷🏼♀️
And not once do you hear any of the people in the room commenting on her body being sliced up and bruised, you’d think they’d at least mention it once since they didn’t know about the recording.
So she *does* refute this story 🤦♀️
She first said he cut his finger off. (Weird to use your non dominant hand).
Then the butler says he found the finger in the bar not thr kitchen. But he brought it to the doctor in the kitchen.
So then she says some magical phone on a wall no one else saw did it. JD to himself. Yet also told a friend JD did it to himself with the bottle. Lots of versions from AH but JD did it to himself in all of them. JDs story hasn't changed. And they say oh well he said he cut his finger off. Yah I say I broke my arm. Not my car crashing mangled my arm. I say I twisted my ankle not my heel twisted my ankle.
She does refute this happened. She has alternated between saying it was a phone that crushed it or he cut it himself.
There is audio after the event and she is wailing and saying “ I didn’t mean to.” The doctor says that’s guilt and gives her a sedative, he also says they need to get her out of there as she’s the problem and the doctor said he thinks she knows exactly what she’s doing. So scary!
And their new story today! Crushed in a door 🙄 I really wanted to be on her side, just awful :/
They had a Dr. testify today that his injury is inconsistent with a bottle hitting it and more consistent with it being jammed in accordion doors which I believe Depp told the first Dr is how it happened. However,
-Depp said he lied to the first Dr bc he didn't want to admit Amber did it initially
- I have a background in physics and the Dr's argument against the bottle throw involves several massive assumptions about the angle the bottle hit his finger that there simply isn't evidence to support
- The accordion door version would be Heard's team's 3rd story of the injury (he cut it off himself in the kitchen with a knife, he did it while smashing up the phone there's no evidence existed, smashed it in accordion doors)
- Ben King found the finger in the bar area which is consistent with Depp's version or Heard's phone smashing version (although several people dispute her claim the phone existed - including Ben King who took care of the insurance claims from the damage - and no one has corroborated her claim).
Yup qft exactly what she’s done
@@Lynsey17 Yeah the Dr's assumption is that the hand was remained stationary just before/after the hit. Even if his palm was down, when the bottle suddenly landed or was about to, he might have jolted and his hand moved against sharp edged glass or something. You'll never be able to dot every 'i', cross every 't' in a situation like that. Silly to try imo.
I feel like even the cigarette burn was a somewhat impulsive reaction. In the audio of the aftermath, she's having a meltdown, mood changing rapidly every few minutes. I can see JD shouting at her, maybe saying the worst things he can think of, and her getting very angry and defensive, suddenly going on the attack again with the cigarette, then rapidly switching back to guilt/fear of abandonment hours or minutes later. I believe she was also on multiple substances, so that helps a bit to explain the extremity of her actions.
Hi Dr Honda - your time for these videos is saving humanity but I think majority of us appreciate YOU. Or at least it's saving mine bc I'm going insane slowly as this world TRIES to move forward.... you've brought sanity back for meeee
Thank you Dr Honda, I took "advantage " of the Better Help offer and I am so happy to have found a therapist. Thank you so much.
I did also. My therapist is amazing! Hope yours is also.
I like how doctor Honda explain that 2 people can have completely 2 different visions of the same situation. I try to remember that every time I have an argument with my partner and thanks to dr Honda I learned to express and highlight how I see and feel the situation in a moment.
Amber admitted on tape to doing it. Saying how she didn't mean to hurt him blah blah blah but she admitted to doing it
No she didn't????? Are you guys paid-for bots? For anyone reading this, just know that it has come out that Depp paid millions of dollars to spread anti-Amber sentiment throughout the internet via a right-wing publication and a crooked lawyer that was permanently banned from Twitter for being so abusive.
Lol. Thank you for catching up with the rest of us!!!! Your reactions post cigarette… are priceless!!! Welcome. Wait til you get caught up.
So, my personal experience of growing up with a parent that has BPD. Yes they absolutely have empathy, sometimes so much so that it can trigger an episode of extreme behaviour. However. What i have found is that what they do lack primarily, is the ability to shift perspectives which will definitely supplant empathy until such a time the perspectives can align once again. I was literally post surgical in the hospital, surrounded by a team of cardiovascular specialists trying to get my blood pressure to go above 40/20, basically trying to keep me alive after a very bad reaction to the anesthetics, and my husband had to physically block my mother from entering the hospital because she wanted to finish an argument that we had the day prior. And it was one of the most ridiculous arguments you could possibly imagine, that matters not at all by the end of the day, but she STILL was so DESPERATE to convince me of her point of view that I was in the wrong a day and a half later, when all indications were I was unlikely to make it through the night, that she had to be blocked from the hospital for a full three days before she could be let in to see me. All because we had disagreed as to what time to put the roast in the oven. BPD people dont have normal arguments. They have existential crises pitting them against a world of "enemies" conjured up of loved ones, which supercedes all other normal human emotions they also have. Crazy shit.
Dr. Honda, PLEASE don't give Amber the benefit of the doubt when she says that pledging is the same as donating during her testimony. And I hope you see that she NEVER takes responsibility for anything and everything is always someone else's fault, but not hers.
Your comment cracked me up lol 🤣 yeah I don't see him doing that.... maybe..
The Children's Hospital of Los Angeles letter of 26 June 2019 refers to the "pledged gift".
He’ll spot the borderline I bet.
@@ania5038 that hasn’t come across to me. He seems to be accepting Johnny’s version as facts while leaving the possibility of other things open.
Literally with this case. Always assume that Amber Heard disputes anything ever. Every obvious fact she will lie about and say did not happen. So yes, she does not agree that this happened.
She had also "given everything to her lawyers" despite that allegedly including photos proving her injuries that haven't appeared and the fact that she's facing court sanctions for not turning over her phone/iCloud account metadata.
Great reaction! And also here to clarify that the psychologist everyone is calling out from todays testimony was actually a psychiatrist. Different training.
There are some brilliant psychiatrists out there. This one…gave me some serious concerns. Just throwing this out there for anyone who saw the testimony, we don’t make decisions on peoples cognitive capacity by watching them in movies and some testimony. There are actual standardized batteries we use to figure that out.
Today’s psychiatrist also said perpetrators don’t seek treatment, “they just don’t do it.” He said that with no qualification, no hedge, no “typically don’t seek treatment.” I found that disturbing. And his statement that a person with a “substance abuse disorder” in combination with a “cluster b” personality disorder would absolutely abuse their partner also seemed like an extreme position. Not “almost all” but every person who fit that profile has to be an IPV abuser. Thank goodness the judge didn’t let him answer whether or not drawing sketches in court and eating candy denoted a narcissistic personality disorder. I shudder to think of what he might have said.
I’ve met some extremely eccentric psychiatrists through my work life. This one is definitely in that league.
@@charisma-hornum-fries I wonder if we’ll ever find out what the jury thought of him. I’m curious to know if his absolute certainty was convincing. I found him less convincing because he was so absolute in his positions. But maybe juries are convinced by that, tho.
@@charisma-hornum-fries I’ve met some great ones and some..questionable ones myself. When I trained in a hospital’s inpatient unit there were a few that I was like…yup I get why the patients keep attacking you…😐 like you’d think the experience of regularly having to duck out of the unit holding a clipboard to your head to protect yourself would make someone reconsider the way they speak to people but apparently not. But I also keep in mind that the psychiatry residents that worked with me often had a few months of a rotation in psych and maybe a couple of psych classes under their belt. Then they rotate through some units for a few years and are free to go out and practice on their own. Some worked really hard to get experiences and extra trainings and work with patients more holistically. Others just got through residency pathologizing everything and prescribing the expected meds. It seems like this doctor may have been the latter.
Oh man I don’t think I’ve seen this type of reaction from Dr. Honda before.
Wait until you see the new “doctor” that was on the stand today….
I can't wait to hear what Dr. Honda thinks of Amber's version of what happened in Australia.
Can't wait for you to watch Amber testimony XDDDD and her cross examination, my goodness that's better than netflix
“She looks sad, I don’t think she refuted this”… ermmm 😏😂
I don’t think she looks sad. Her mouth looks sad but her eyes don’t, her eyes look angry and like there’s a little bit of contempt.
The look on her face when the video pauses after Johnny talks about her putting the cigarette out on him.. She looks like she wants to hurt him again.
Instead of trying to be mindful of people who support her negative behavior. Explain to them what she is. He doesn't deserve anyone to label him an abuser with all of the evidence available. Most men would of beat her ass, but he ran from her. Yes, he pushed her one time to get her off of him but he had extreme control compared to most humans. We all have a breaking point. He is a victim and deserves as much sympathy as a woman would get.
Knowing Amber has a young child currently is pretty disconcerting
Tragic
Take a look at the behavioral analysis on amber heard's face. Your mind will be blown.
The behavioral panel or the behavioral arts are my favorites.
just an fyi, she is disputing this happened... shes saying he cut his own finger off...
Of course she would say that.
Can’t wait for you to get to AH testimony 😬
I am afraid that in our obsession to try and figure out behavior from people we are going to break 💔 Dr. Honda.
There really isn't a clear narrative from AH of what happened here, because her testimony, her witnesses' testimony and her experts' testimony all contradict each other. AH claims he severed the finger while he was smashing a wall-mounted phone. Her acting coach claims AH told her that JD sliced his finger off with the vodka bottle. And just today AH's expert physician testimony was that the injury was consistent to what JD alleged was a lie, that it was crushed against accordion doors. I don't know what AH even wants the jury to believe about this incident. Nothing adds up.
25:18 the cigarette thing literally makes me feel sick if it's true. I understand your reaction. From listening to Amber talk in her testimony and the recordings, it seems like she doesn't believe that she's physically capable of hurting Johnny because he's a man.
@ 13:30 spot on. I could totally see her narrativizing what happened this way. I feel this is insightful and accurate
You will definitely be in for some surprises when you listen to her testimony. And by some I mean MANY.
I have been wondering if a person is as disregulated as Depp and the internet claims Amber was, how is it that she would be so emotionally controlled during this trial?
Good question. Meanwhile, he hides behind dark sunglasses inside the courtroom, refuses to look at her, compulsively chomps on gummy bears, and looks like he is coming unglued.
@@tellthetruthna8523 recovering alcoholics often crave sugar. My husband's been sober for 10 years and still craves candy when he is stressed
@@tellthetruthna8523 Heaven forbid people wear sunglasses and eat gummy bears. I should check into a mental hospital right now.
I don't see her as being very controlled at all. You examine Amber in this trial, and her demeanor COMPLETELY shifts from day to day. Also, she's a lot more put together here because she finally got her story down straight with her lawyers, whereas in the 2016 deposition she shifts moods so quickly when being called out on her inconsistencies.
again I have to appreciate that you're looking at this unbiased that's really amazing :) about the recording after the incident and that she probably is not psychopathic, I don't know if she is or not of course, just for a thought because you have much better consideration of this stuff, there were writings on the mirror made right after the bottle incident. most of them are from Johnny, first by blood, later by paint also. but there is a message written with lipstick as well... she denied writing that, Johnny said she did, but what the message said and "the tone" of it to me, very biased human, is obviously from her. what is interesting about it is, some of Johnny's writings are below the lipstick one, some are above.... which would mean he left a message by blood, she responded, and he wrote also a response to her. her response was sarcastic and mocking. it would suggest that it happened after the finger incident and she felt no remorse at all. only snapped seemingly out of it with people coming to the house. I probably shouldn't watch this trial this closely :D but it is very interesting
What did she write? Do you mind telling me if you remember?
His description of his finger is haunting.
Johnny has his way with words - he is very poetic. I wonder whether he has ever written any songs.
I dont understand taking sides with people I dont know... That I havent met. That I could not know the truth about... This buffles me...
I had forgotten Johnny said Whitney was between them. The body guard said he was. The only thing though that was a consensus between all 4 witnesses was that Amber hit Johnny.
What about the possibility of “DARVO”?
Whilst I don’t believe ambers claims, I do think she feels bad. I think that she can’t allow herself to admit what truly happened because it will make her feel so bad and so she blames Johnny. I don’t think she meant to severe his finger when she threw the bottles. I think she was probably in a rage and not thinking clearly. Her remorse right after
Sounded pretty genuine to me. It still doesn’t excuse the behaviors though.
To be believe this is to misunderstand personality disorders... If she feels bad about any it would be along the lines of "I feel so bad that Johnny pushed me over the edge like that... We could have been perfect if he didn't behave so selfishly and emotionally batter me."
She didn't mean to chop his finger off which in her mind is enough not to feel like its unfair to hold her accountable for intentionally resulted from a violently thrown bottle"
Did you see the testimony this morning? What he described doesn't make any sense medically. And if there was a doctor out there who disagreed the Depp team probably would have had them testify.
"she feels bad so she blames Johnny to avoid feeling guilty" ...........I'm sorry, what?
To me it looks like she just reckons she’s above having to suffer any consequences of her actions, but I am, really, just speculating.
She's up for defamation. It's not enough that she feels bad. She went and lied in public about it.. with malice.
Well said gr8 vid. I agree. AH seems to have a lot of rage and anger, and was abusive. It seems so obvious by this point imo
I have borderline but is being managed, and I can say that when I get extremely hurt and angry, I can think of a million hurtful things to do to my partner. I've heard of someone pressing a cigarette on a man before, it's not so uncommon. I myself think of grabbing a knife, strangling my partner, setting the house on fire, hitting, kicking, getting a lamp, a rock, a chair to throw at his head and just basically going extremely crazy. Now, I DON'T do it, luckily I still have the urge to stop. I mostly hurt myself, not my partner. I think it is possible that a person who has borderline or just have extreme anger can definitely harm a person. It's interesting bec you said "what if there's a gun?!" that is exactly why me and my partner do not have a gun even if we live in a farm, because we both know I can be extremely impulsive and angry. It's also possible that Johnny was able to hit Amber, but out of pure frustration or temptation. I basically challenge my partner to hit me or hurt me, go straight at their face, spitting air and screaming "HIT ME!" while I hit him myself. It's possible Johnny was cornered and had no way out but to hit back or push back. My partner is very kind and patient, he is not violent at all. He rarely screams or even gets angry, but I can say and do stuff that can trigger and corner him to the point that he finally gets angry.
So I can say, being borderline, these are possible scenarios.
I am glad I am not as miserable and out of control as before, and I am finally understanding how to manage my emotions and not hurt my partner. Being the borderline, I can say that the thoughts of hurting my partner hurts me, and the memories of when I would force him or urge him to hit me was me being so miserably in pain that I just wanted someone to end the pain or kill me. It's NOT FUN to have borderline, but therapy helps a lot.
Many borderline survivors or partners hate us who have borderlines and it hurts to see so many people hate us. We hate our disorder too, and most of us wantto live a normal life. We struggle with it everyday, we get triggered by the simplest sigh or sound or gesture, and we don't even want to! No person wants to live a life of anger and resent. We want a life where we can feel safe and not hurt every day or every hour. Please do not incorporate every borderline as Amber Heard or at least give us a chance by encouraging us to seek therapy. My partner and I are still together, and he doesn't hate me at all. He knows I am trying everytime I get angry to stop my mouth from saying mean stuff and to try to calm down. We got married and tothis day he still loves me and is patient with me.
That made me cry, I feel so sorry for you. Thanks so much for sharing how hard it must be to live with feelings like that. Wish you all the best!
@@janine7070 Thank you for understanding, although I would also say that My partner probably deserves more recognition than me as he is very patient and tried hard to research and understand borderline personality disorder. When Dr. Kirk said borderline peeps have empathy, I can definitely agree to that. I am very hyper sensitive. Everyday if my partner does something slightly less sweet, my brain will immediately think that something is wrong. "Is it me? what did I do? is he mad? does he hate me? He doesn't love me, he will leave me, he's thinking of leaving me." These are thoughts that arise, and then of course when thoughts come, the feeling of rejection comes after. Our pain is not the same as others. We feel extreme pain. A sadness for a normal person might be just sad, but for us it is extreme wallowing depression. Getting rejected for a normal healthy person might hurt, but for us it is like someone just told us we should just disappear. It's very intense, and it sucks, and sometimes I feel like I'm drowning in pain just because, for example, my partner just said, "mornin" to me instead of "Good morning, my love." A slight difference, barely noticeable, and if it is true my partner isn't in the mood, I might not even be the cause of it. Maybe he just had a bad sleep, or is feeling sad over something else. My partner used to get a little annoyed when I ask him, "what's wrong? is something wrong? Tell me what's wrong?" whenever he said something suspiciously sad. But now he understands that from a borderline's point of view I am basically saying, "Something is wrong!!!! help me!!! tell me everything is okay because I am so fucking scared right now!!!"
As a background story: my trauma came from my parent's separation. My father left us, cheated on my mom. My mom herself has borderline traits, & my father claimed she was "crazy and neurotic." I have social anxiety and bpd from moving to schools, being always the new kid, being rejected by people around me, being blamed for me being my father's daughter, my mom saying I am "just like your father."
Healing takes time. I still ask my partner what is wrong whenever I feel scared, but instead of believing there is something wrong, I allow my partner to say that nothing is wrong and to BELIEVE that in fact, everything is okay and if not, that I am brave enough to face whatever is "wrong" or scary in my eyes.
I heard an audio clip of Amber feeling miserable and saying, "I just wanted to touch you." to Johnnu depp. Some of the clips from her made me shiver, it almost felt like the words I use when I am so miserably in pain. If Amber does have borderline, she is probably extremely miserable and living a life like that is difficult and lonely. We borderlines say we dont want to get abandoned, and yet we do things that drive our partners to leave. It is a self fulfilling prophecy. Although Amber and I are not the same, I can sense that Amber is in pain, in her own ways. I hope that she will find and accept treatment, bec only if she trully opens up to therapy and healing will she finally slowly stop hurting herself and the people around her.
Sorry for rambling. 😅 Please just skip my reply! Thank you for understanding.
@@clover5923 That's not rambling at all and I just want to say, that I am thankful, that you told your story and the way you feel! It made me cry again, and that's totally fine (nothing to feel bad for). I truly wish you all the best and I hope you recognize and are proud of yourself for working through it, not giving up and doing the best you can. Thank you so much for helping me understand what it feels like and for opening up. I really appreciate it a lot. ❤️
@@janine7070 I wish you a very fine day. I hope you're feeling happy yourself and have support and people that loves you. Thanks for letting me speak out. I wish you all the best too!
It takes a lot to shock Dr Kirk.
The cigarette incident feels like such a theatrical move to me.
It’s like something from the 3 Stooges… we see these frequent violent images, but there’s this instant, magical recovery. It’s desensitizing.
I do not believe him or her. Johnny is lying he wasn’t sober before this. Also, the doctor yesterday refuted his claim on the injury.
I’m so glad to get your take on all this testimony, Dr. Kirk. The sheer volatility of this relationship is 😳😳😳😳
I appreciate your warm, calming discussion, doing all you can to remain open to all reasonable possibilities ❤️💐
Love your empathy for borderline. So accurate and caring. Thank you 🙏🏼
I seriously can’t wait for you to react to Heard’s testimony. I feel a lot of empathy for her, but her explanations were so confusing.
AMBER IS CONFUSED BECAUSE AMBER IS A LIAR . 😂🤣😂
Yupp….her testimony basically relies on everyone else lying about her, even her own lawyers. Seems suspect to me. I am not ruling out the potential of mutual abuse of course but she really doesn’t seem as “innocent” as she suggested in her oped
lies are usually very confusing because they don't line up with reality. I don't wish the worst for her tho I believe the hate she's receiving must be a lot and probably the way she is that's probably the worst punishment she could get. although I hope someone helps her and she can raise her child to be happy and not miserable like she is. and maybe some day she will apologise, who knows and honestly if that day would come, I would wish for the Internet to accept it along with johnny of course :) and stop the hate. I would accept it now and would spread support for her now if she'd came up during the trial, told the truth and apologised.
@@sedmidivka 100% agree. If she just told the truth I would be able to empathize with her better but it’s hard when her version of the “truth” feels so unreliable. I don’t wish anything bad for her either. It really seems like she needs and deserves help as does Johnny and I wish the best for her child!
It was confusing because she was lying. I feel no sympathy for her at all. She’s an awful human being.
She does refute this story. She claimed that he took his own finger off by smashing a plastic beside her head; until it disappeared. He supposedly held her by the neck with the other hand. After the phone was demolished, he assaulted her with a bottle (broken?) while continuing to hold her neck. What truly disturbs me is that, after she took off his finger tip, she put a cigarette out on his face. She didn't feel any remorse. She wanted more pain for him. He is lucky to have survived his marriage to her.
Edit: Just finished watching the whole video. The reason why people are only talking about it now is because this is the first time it's (S.A.) been accepted in court. This is one of the two stories not accepted in the UK. Even though the judge's son worked for the defendant, he did not believe AH's story (which was stolen from her assistant).
The whole story that AH claims is so incredibly out there. Main stream media only presents AH's version. Honest to goodness, people actually think that he has hit her
Today’s day in court was difficult to watch… all I could think about was how much I would (will?) enjoy your commentary on the psychiatric expert testimony.
Can you do a reaction video on the "expect opinion" psychiatrist from the DvH trial? I know it's not related to a relationship but interested to see your observations
It’s really easy to stay neutral until you hear her testify. She would be so much more sympathetic if she just told the truth like at all.
You expect victims of domestic violence to testify the way you think they should. Hard to believe that women are still having to put up with the same shit in 2022 that they were 50 years ago. Thanks to people like you.
Wait until you hear Amber's version of Australia. Wrap your mind around that
THe description of the finger always makes me shudder. BLEHHH
Do you believe Johnny about the cigarette burn? I think I do. His voice was shaking as he described it, and it was something he didn't even remember to mention until hs saw the picture of himself in the hospital. Like, "oh yeah, forgot to mention this other thing". That does ring true for me.
But also, could he have stubbbed it out on his own face, while he was out of his head so much that he was writing insults and lies Amber had told him on the walls using his bleeding stump as a paintbrush? Maybe. That's not a rational act in itself. While in pain and shock, he could have stubbed it out on his own face, if he didn't have any other place to put it. I don't know though, was he even smoking a cigarette down there in the bar?
Oh, she loved him in this moment in court, absolutely. I saw that, it seemed clear. I don't know if she felt bad in that moment, but she does love him. She's also trying to maintain what she thinks might be the right expression to get the jury to like her. Of course that's neecessary in a civil case.
Amber absolutly refutes Johnny's story about how his finger was damaged.
And perhaps more to the point the hand surgeon that testified today refutes Johnny's story.
Well duh of course she would. She’s a manipulative liar would expect nothing less from her
Have you heard the audio recording of when it actually happened.The doctors and witnesses who saw the aftermath said it was Amber..and guess what she admitts that she did it also in that same audio recording.
@@GroovyFeminist the doctor that testified wasn’t there so he doesn’t know how it happened. However, he did testify that Johnny’s injured finger suffered a comminuted fracture which is consistent with a fracture caused by smashing your finger with high impact, most common is MVI injuries.
@@zerolosses4nero your lying. Go read the UK transcripts
This is not a great video for people who are squeamish about blood and medical things but I powered through because it is worth it to hear what Dr. Honda has to say.
Dr Kirk, thanks for another great video. It would be great if you could do a video (or just reply here) explaining mutual abuse/bidirectional partner abuse. I have been following the trial and trying to understand if this was a case of mutual abuse or, as Dr Hughes suggested, there is no such thing as mutual abuse, only an abuser and a victim who might sometimes engage in reactionary violence. If one person initiates the violence/abuse, say 70-80% of the time and is responsible for the more severe abuse, and the other person maybe initiates arguments, let's say 20% of the time and participates in some form of violence but isn't the one who typically escalates it, would that be an instance of one person always being the abuser and the other always the victim (who may sometimes fight back or even initiate arguments), or is it a case of two abusers and two victims in the relationship, maybe swapping roles at different times? What role does control play in this and is it possible for one person to be the more controlling one even if the other person has more power, wealth or status in society? What if both people try to control their partners in different ways? Thanks for any help you can give, I am really struggling to understand these concepts.
So years of EMS into RN and I'm not understanding how having a severe laceration would also involve a crush injury from a single blunt force incident. I've seen a lot of injuries and messed up hands, but that one simply doesn't quite fit with the narrative. My only bet given that I only watch Dr. Honda's videos is this: She threw the bottle, it sliced open/off his finger. Further trauma was then inflicted on his finger bone - and perhaps the one under it -when he was writing in blood. I'm just gonna guess he wasn't writing things calmly - which fair enough.
I haven't seen the trial outside of Dr. Honda's take so I have no idea what other evidence is out there. But does anybody know? A crush injury is very specific and not usually on par with single blunt force event involving lacerations - not on an extremity anyway. Any other med folks out there who have seen something like this? Also I'm genuinely asking this question in good faith, not trying to make it him vs her. It just seemed really off to me that crushed "bones" - as in multiple - would be the result of this single incident.
Leaving a comment in case someone knowledgeable responds. I'm confused about this as well.
His hand expert will be called for rebuttal. I think we will be getting a full understanding of the crush/severing injury and how the bottle caused it.
I'm sure there's a good explanation. Probably why Amber won't be calling Johnny's hand surgeon as a witness to this trial but Johnny's team will be.
Your description of an abusers ability to realize they crossed a line is so accurate. They are capable of feeling empathy and remorse at times, i think thats also part of why it can be so confusing as a victim because they rarely take accountability, they rarely apologise, so to see genuine remorse every once in a blue moon is like a beacon of hope. I remember when my ex cut me with a knife because he went too far in his "joke" to intimidate me and the immediate turnaround from laughing maniacly at my terror to suddenly seeing what he had done when he saw the blood left me with whiplash. One minute, he's terrorizing me the next he's profusely apologizing and feeling absolutely terrible. It was the same thing when he was in a fit of rage and threw a metal object that shattered my fish tank and sent my pet fish flying. If only he could have shown empathy every time he hurt with me cruel words and not just physically 😅
and also in that recording, she says all
she was "popping" was Xanax, Ecstasy,
'shrooms and Adderall (which she took from Jonny's script)
19:18 😅🤣🤣🤣🤣 you are in for a shock. Amber's story is bonkers. 🤣🤣🤣not even similar to Johnny's.
God I'm so over hearing about this trial