Fixing Gen 4's Worst Pokemon

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  • @GrandDuchessTaco
    @GrandDuchessTaco 11 місяців тому +861

    I feel like making Kricketune's BST go to 440 would be even more thematically fitting, since tuners are typically set to A = 440 Hertz as a frequency.

    • @somerandomgoblin2583
      @somerandomgoblin2583 11 місяців тому +44

      that's adorable! i totally agree!

    • @CarlosSaulRodriguezA
      @CarlosSaulRodriguezA 11 місяців тому +8

      Actually, the standard is anything between 440-444, while some claim 432 to be better... so....

    • @CharlieManning-g5h
      @CharlieManning-g5h 10 місяців тому +55

      ​@@CarlosSaulRodriguezA"actually" ☝️🤓

    • @jakeyjakes_
      @jakeyjakes_ 10 місяців тому +37

      @@CarlosSaulRodriguezA440 is the standard

    • @DragonTheOneDZA
      @DragonTheOneDZA 3 місяці тому +2

      It's like rollipede having 360 bst because it's a wheel

  • @awesomeocelot7475
    @awesomeocelot7475 11 місяців тому +1103

    It’s funny how you called Carnivine the seviper of Sinnoh since in the anime Jessie had a seviper and James had a Carnivine (which is where I always remember Carnivine from)

    • @garg4531
      @garg4531 11 місяців тому +80

      Fun fact, James’ carnivine is the only one of its kind to appear in the anime
      Same for his cacnea!

    • @matteogabusi8950
      @matteogabusi8950 11 місяців тому +19

      @@garg4531eh.. not really for cacnea, there has been some minor appearances in journeys and horizons

    • @domdude64dd
      @domdude64dd 11 місяців тому +57

      James is secretly a grass type master, all his grass types LOVE him, maybe a bit too much lol

    • @garg4531
      @garg4531 11 місяців тому +3

      @@domdude64dd All of them except for Amoonguss but yeah!

    • @garg4531
      @garg4531 11 місяців тому +4

      @@matteogabusi8950 Yeah I read that after the comment
      But they’re only minor appearances in the latest series, so still for the vast majority of the anime we haven’t seen any others

  • @FarizArditiyo
    @FarizArditiyo 4 місяці тому +101

    You're editing makes it feel like you are about to talk about how three people were killed in a car crash in 1998

    • @DragonTheOneDZA
      @DragonTheOneDZA 3 місяці тому +2

      Oddishly specifically

    • @alpho_luny
      @alpho_luny 3 місяці тому +4

      Even his voice fits that theme like he could do well if he ever wanted to switch to horror theme stuff

    • @IAmTheRealHim
      @IAmTheRealHim 3 місяці тому +1

      @@alpho_lunytyphlosion has entered the chat

    • @alpho_luny
      @alpho_luny 3 місяці тому

      @@IAmTheRealHim oh shit not that 💀

    • @zekkerspoggers
      @zekkerspoggers Місяць тому

      On the mashup of all the series videos, the transition between the generations is so god damn scary

  • @ikesileth2270
    @ikesileth2270 11 місяців тому +385

    Two notes on luxray: first, no guard is more of a detriment than a buff. Sure, the elemental fangs are 95% accurate, but that pales in comparison to the focus blasts, blizzards, fire blasts, and hypnoses that you’re giving free rein to destroy your beloved feline. Second, I really do feel like a phenomenal moveset addition for luxray would be flame charge. Luxray isn’t slow persay, but it’s slow for an electric type and the fire coverage could be useful for the wormadams and steel types of sinnoh

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  11 місяців тому +98

      Yeah, I realized too late that Compound Eyes would've by far been the better ability to give it, both gameplay wise and design wise

    • @beanslinger2
      @beanslinger2 11 місяців тому +45

      @@PokemonWoop bro luxray has simple eyes how does Compound Eyes make sense design wise. I get the "Seeing through walls" thing could justify but he just doesnt have compound eyes like insects do

    • @smargio
      @smargio 11 місяців тому +68

      ​@@beanslinger2 it could be a compound eyes reskin like vital spirit vs insomnia or huge power and pure power.

    • @TaLeng2023
      @TaLeng2023 11 місяців тому +23

      ​@@smargiohopefully not just a mere reskin. Boosting accuracy and also ignoring evasiveness would be nice. Heck maybe ignore barriers as well when using Electric attacks.

    • @DigitalRag3X
      @DigitalRag3X 11 місяців тому +3

      It gets Trail Blaze iirc

  • @shiny9690
    @shiny9690 11 місяців тому +542

    I'd personally give Kricketune a lean towards SpAtk and more sound based moves, and give it a unique ability called "Conductor", which gives it an immunity to sound moves like soundproof, but it also strengthens itself's and an ally's sound moves in Doubles. The sound immunity would let it pull some nasty shenanigans like immunity to perish song or buffing an ally's Boomburst while remaining unharmed by it. Give it helping hand too for even more damage boosting!

    • @unkarsthug4429
      @unkarsthug4429 11 місяців тому +42

      We could also just make a more generic version of punk rock, and give it a bit wider distribution. Give it to pokemon like Exploud. That would be a way to fix a number of meh sound based pokemon, and give them interesting interactions with each other.

    • @craniifer
      @craniifer 11 місяців тому +8

      Yeah, I'm grateful to the breadcrumbs they sent Cricketune's way. It's at least great in story now.

    • @TaLeng2023
      @TaLeng2023 11 місяців тому +16

      Methinks Conductor could work by making the ally's Sound attack gain priority whenever Kriketune is also preparing a Sound move.

    • @jurgeysamuel
      @jurgeysamuel 11 місяців тому +2

      Maybe call the ability tuning fork

    • @themilkman7921
      @themilkman7921 11 місяців тому +7

      I’d call the ability “resonance”

  • @digifreak90
    @digifreak90 11 місяців тому +252

    With Carnivine, I remember that several people thought that it would get access to Snap Trap the next time it made an appearance because the move would fit Carnivine better than G.Stunfisk, who only gets STAB when Grassy Terrain is in effect.

    • @Ascera_exists
      @Ascera_exists 11 місяців тому +35

      And then came GF not including Carnivine in SwSh or SV

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  11 місяців тому +37

      Yeah, definitely a missed opportunity there

    • @munchrai6396
      @munchrai6396 11 місяців тому +32

      Galarian Stunfisk in general is just such a mess. Its impressive that you can improve the typing, yet add a gimmick that they didn't even feel like supporting outside of a single move

    • @Chaospirex
      @Chaospirex 11 місяців тому +5

      They should honestly buff snap traps bp to like 65 or something might as well since it’s never being used and give it to carnivine too

  • @nerdyfalco408
    @nerdyfalco408 11 місяців тому +376

    3:31 nah man, if luxray got no guard I would just teach it thunder 💀

    • @gg41451
      @gg41451 11 місяців тому +80

      To do a grand total of like 50% to a Milotic

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 11 місяців тому +33

      @@gg4145130% para chance though

    • @sterling8389
      @sterling8389 11 місяців тому +69

      That 95 special attack ain't bad at all. But I actually don't like no guard as an ability becasue it's moves are generally accurate. It would only really boost the accuracy of Thunder. Which is good. But unnecessary

    • @ronswanson7371
      @ronswanson7371 11 місяців тому +2

      @@deeznoots6241Marvel Scale

    • @deeznoots6241
      @deeznoots6241 11 місяців тому +15

      @@ronswanson7371 marvel scale only increases Milotics physical defense, which wouldn’t affect thunder since its a special move.

  • @beefboi9993
    @beefboi9993 11 місяців тому +116

    "Using Kricketune as a trump card" is something I NEVER thought I would hear.

  • @lumineonlover7780
    @lumineonlover7780 11 місяців тому +62

    I personally think they should let Lumineon carry a sledgehammer to make it more threatening

  • @TaLeng2023
    @TaLeng2023 11 місяців тому +88

    Custom ability for Luxray: X-Ray Vision
    Boosts accuracy and ignores opponent's evasion stat. Ignores screens and protection when using Electric attacks.

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  11 місяців тому +9

      I like that a lot

    • @jordylucius
      @jordylucius 11 місяців тому +2

      Genius

    • @thelanktheist2626
      @thelanktheist2626 7 місяців тому +9

      Perhaps it’s a bit strong. A good drawback would be that Luxray ALSO can’t use or have any evasion moves on itself or use any accuracy-lowering moves on another Pokémon.

    • @DJsocial7102
      @DJsocial7102 5 місяців тому

      I feel like its not that crazy. Its not like it boost power of electric moves. Its just a counter to screens which is really fun. As there arent a ton of those.​@@thelanktheist2626

    • @Ryan-qv9se
      @Ryan-qv9se 15 днів тому +1

      ​@@thelanktheist2626 meh luxray speed is bad & goes down to any decent ground type move, i don't think it'd be flying up in tiering

  • @kanibelazy0585
    @kanibelazy0585 11 місяців тому +60

    Funny I never forgot Lumineon, probably because I really love its cry

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  11 місяців тому +9

      That's fair. Personally, I just really like its design

    • @DragonTheOneDZA
      @DragonTheOneDZA 3 місяці тому +2

      I only remember snover exists because of the cry as well
      WEEOWEEO

  • @MajicMarco
    @MajicMarco 11 місяців тому +23

    No guard is completely pointless on luxray considering its best moves are no less than 90 percent accurate. Intimidate is totally fine.

    • @1TieDye1
      @1TieDye1 7 місяців тому +5

      Yeah. No guard is a huge downgrade from intimidate, especially on Luxray

  • @justarandompurplefox3243
    @justarandompurplefox3243 11 місяців тому +67

    I was once part of a small Pokémon group on a chat app.
    The bubble effect was SO real. Everyone there ran Luxray and assumed it was good.
    Winning battles in that group was easy and boring since they all ran identical crap…

    • @Ycha_alpha
      @Ycha_alpha 11 місяців тому +4

      Generic sinnoh team go brr

    • @MyNaymIsSnek1526
      @MyNaymIsSnek1526 7 місяців тому

      @@Ycha_alphaWell, at leassst the generic sssinnoh team isss probably better than my team for Sssinnoh. Napoleon the male Empoleon, Crimssson the female Rossserade, Gayle the female Drifblim, Ssskippy the female Lopunny, Cccynthia the female Garchomp, and Anubisss the male Lucario.

    • @melonmelon8241
      @melonmelon8241 5 місяців тому +2

      @@MyNaymIsSnek1526 my brother in christ, your team IS the generic sinnoh team

    • @MyNaymIsSnek1526
      @MyNaymIsSnek1526 5 місяців тому

      @@melonmelon8241 Lopunny and Drifblim have joined the chat (alssso don’t mossst people choossse Infernape inssstead of Empoleon)

    • @melonmelon8241
      @melonmelon8241 5 місяців тому +1

      @@MyNaymIsSnek1526 lop is pretty popular i thought, its like umbreon where its kind of overrated, ill give you drifblim sure, and yeah most people go for nape but its still the more generic pick over torterra i feel like
      anyway its impossible to make a sinnoh team that isnt generic so it really doesnt matter

  • @TitanKaiju75
    @TitanKaiju75 11 місяців тому +53

    I've also always really liked Lumineon since it was introduced, but it's *LONG* overdue for some serious buffs. I've thought about it gaining Fairy as well, and have always imagined it as geting a serious Sp. Attack buff (I'd personally make it 96) to sort of make it a faster, (when under Swift Swim) Special-oriented counterpart to Azumarill.

  • @thefirespecialist9007
    @thefirespecialist9007 11 місяців тому +41

    For Carnivine: Instead of Arena Trap, it should have a unique ability... Bug Trap! Basically like Magnet Pull, but for Bug types. Preventing them from switching out, INCLUDING with U-turn!

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  11 місяців тому +9

      That's actually a genius idea!

    • @DragonTheOneDZA
      @DragonTheOneDZA 3 місяці тому +4

      YES. PERFECT FOR THE POKEMON THAT'S LITERALLY WEAK TO BUG!!!

    • @victory8928
      @victory8928 3 місяці тому

      Maybe even add a trait where it does 1/16 hp of the enemy if it makes physical contact

    • @jetsettech8804
      @jetsettech8804 2 місяці тому

      While that's a unique idea, it doesn't help carnivine in the slightest, seeing as it's weak to bug.

    • @thefirespecialist9007
      @thefirespecialist9007 2 місяці тому +1

      What if Bug Trap turned its Bug Weakness into a Bug Immunity? The only Pokémon Immune to U-Turn would be quite the Niche especially with all the Non Bug Type U-Turners on there

  • @LilGian1
    @LilGian1 11 місяців тому +23

    A Gen 4 pokemon that needs to be “fixed” is purugly. It is SOOOOOO fast and yet it can’t do anything at all with its speed. I would ATLEAST increase its physical attack so make it a fast glass cannon. Since its defences and hp is pretty low!! If not I would MINIMUM buff its HP to make it a fast pokemon that can survive for many rounds due to its big health. However, I think the fast glass cannon concept works better to fix it

    • @ChangedMyNameFinally69
      @ChangedMyNameFinally69 6 місяців тому

      Shouldn't it have high defense considering it's a big fat house cat?

    • @TheBestEver1998
      @TheBestEver1998 3 місяці тому

      Give it the fur coat ability is a simple fix

  •  11 місяців тому +64

    This has been brought up before in other instances of someone saying Luxray should be Dark-type:
    Luxray has more to do with light than darkness, it was never depicted as malicious or underhanded, being black does not warrant getting Dark, and its only Dark-type moves in its level-up moveset are Bite and Crunch, which are just bites.

    • @sterling8389
      @sterling8389 11 місяців тому +3

      Good point. I never thought of it that way

    • @thisnameseemslegit
      @thisnameseemslegit 11 місяців тому +9

      Dark types aren’t inherently evil though, for instance Absol warns of potential disasters, Umbreon is chill. Mewoscarada is essentially just a performer. Also the light associations already fit with the electric typing, I really don’t think adding dark is that crazy.

    •  11 місяців тому +3

      @@thisnameseemslegit the light connections contradict would-be associations with darkness.
      Absol was mistaken for a doom bringer, Umbreon has more to do with literal darkness and the night.

    • @isidorodaviddoro1920
      @isidorodaviddoro1920 11 місяців тому +9

      ​@@thisnameseemslegitstill Absol was hated because people think that he is the One causing the bad things,dark types all have bad traits or a dark lore

    • @EDDYSUNSHINEv2
      @EDDYSUNSHINEv2 10 місяців тому +3

      I like to think that if Luxray got a 2ndary type, it'd be Psychic instead.

  • @isuckatgaming1873
    @isuckatgaming1873 11 місяців тому +33

    Lumineon is my favorite water type due to its design as well as its cry
    It also has roost in legends arceus so it was fun to use

  • @myatbhonehtike5815
    @myatbhonehtike5815 11 місяців тому +16

    your videos are so uncanny like
    it feels kinda..creepy? the music,the backgrounds and heck even your voice give me chills

  • @marcelomelo9977
    @marcelomelo9977 11 місяців тому +17

    I think carnivine should get an signature ability called "swapped roles" in which instead of being resisted and taking supereffective damage by bugs and flying it resists and does supereffective damage against bugs and flying types, it just makes sense to a plant that preys upon bugs (and even rats on some ocassions) to swap roles with them, also i think that carnivine being this big could easly prey upon smaller birds and bats

  • @XMalevolentPandoraX
    @XMalevolentPandoraX 11 місяців тому +8

    I hope this reaches you, but your sound design is absolutely amazing! The ambient music and your low pitch voice combine to create a mysterious ambience that matches that of lost media and horror videos. Thank you for your content! It's super entertaining :)

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  11 місяців тому +2

      Thanks a lot for the kind words!! I'm glad you enjoy it

  • @MishKoz
    @MishKoz 11 місяців тому +45

    I've seen someone suggest this buff on r/Stunfisk, but seeing how Carnivine is based on a plant whose defining characteristic is eating bugs, it should really have an ability that heals it when its hit by a Bug-type move. Basically the same idea as Water Absorb. It just makes so much sense, and it gets rid of one of the Grass-type's weaknesses, as opposed to Levitate which as you said, feels a little pointless since Grass already resists Ground.

    • @TaLeng2023
      @TaLeng2023 11 місяців тому +9

      I'd prefer it boost ATK like Sap Sipper. IRL Venus flytraps tighten harder the more the caught insect struggle and hit the trigger hairs inside.
      Maybe it can have a partner Skill Link/Loaded Dice Pin Missile on it.

    • @hoothoot7122
      @hoothoot7122 11 місяців тому +9

      Damn a grass type that can heal off u-turn spam is wild

    • @justspheal489
      @justspheal489 11 місяців тому +3

      How does Stunfisk have its own subreddit lmao?

    • @MishKoz
      @MishKoz 11 місяців тому

      @@justspheal489
      r/Stunfisk is the competitive Pokemon subreddit. Stunfisk was chosen as the mascot just as a silly little counterpart to Smogon, and their use of Koffing.
      Every Thursday they have an event where people can suggest new pokemon, abilities, moves, items, and other things that would be cool to have in the game, and the post I referred to in my original comment was that buff for Carnivine. I think they also made it a Grass/Dark type lol

    • @oodogla
      @oodogla 11 місяців тому +1

      ​ most if not all pokemon do​@@justspheal489

  • @jzstfu
    @jzstfu 11 місяців тому +85

    the 3 elemental fangs are egg moves for Luxray

    • @DrCoeloCephalo
      @DrCoeloCephalo 11 місяців тому +33

      Then there is no reason why they cannot be level up moves to get them easier.

    • @TKnHappyNess
      @TKnHappyNess 11 місяців тому +10

      Hippowdon is only one available during the story in Diamond and Pearl who can pass them over. Cyrus has a Honchkrow with Drill Peck but nobody in the Sinnoh Dex gets it

    • @tabbender1232
      @tabbender1232 11 місяців тому +10

      @@DrCoeloCephalo Yeah man just casualize everything and make the game play itsef and never oppose any kind of resistance

    • @zacharyjoy8724
      @zacharyjoy8724 11 місяців тому +10

      To be fair, the Galar games made this MUCH easier.

    • @DrCoeloCephalo
      @DrCoeloCephalo 10 місяців тому +3

      @@tabbender1232 Isn't this supposed tio be a kids game for everyone? Why NOT make it easier? That's the usual defense for alot of Pokemon's bad game design compared to better monster collectors where AI is monumentally smarter and skillset customizing is monumentally better like Dragon Quest Monsters among other games.

  • @mazharsiddiqi7288
    @mazharsiddiqi7288 11 місяців тому +30

    Good improvements
    For Lumineon line it's pre evo is called Beutifly of the sea moves like Silver Wind and Moon Light would really suit it (Moon Light over Morning Sun because it's dex entry always refer to night and stars)

  • @Dr.Deluxe
    @Dr.Deluxe 11 місяців тому +23

    Even with buffs Lumineon is always gonna face stiff competition for a team slot with all the other excellent water types in Sinnoh. It's not available til you get the Good Rod so there's gonna be competition with all the early mons. Assuming you didn't pick Piplup as a starter there's other Sinnoh waters Floatzel and Gastrodon which are available much earlier and then there's the amazing Gyarados which only requires the Old Rod and got buffed in Gen 4. BDSP makes it much worse with early access to other water types in the underground and Platinum lets you potentially get a Vaporeon right before the Good Rod.

  • @cowkip
    @cowkip 11 місяців тому +80

    I really pick bad pokemon to have as favorites, I think in every video you did in this series you had some of my favorite pokemon. This time around its Lumineon, I don't know why. I just like that fish for no reason

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  11 місяців тому +17

      Same, I love Lumineon's design, but it's just not that good

    • @Rainfire-forgets-to-animate
      @Rainfire-forgets-to-animate 11 місяців тому +3

      Could be worse, you could be me loving spinda, ditto, and Absol.

    • @Ανδρέας-ΓεώργιοςΣκίννερ
      @Ανδρέας-ΓεώργιοςΣκίννερ 11 місяців тому

      I remember during my Platinum playthrough all those years ago, I reached the Elite 4 without a Water type Pokémon. Bertha gave me hell, so I just went searching for a fish. Finneon came my way, and eventually carried that godforsaken battle. Though a random Dusclops is what got me through Cynthia hahah

  • @princess_sarina_aria_elysia
    @princess_sarina_aria_elysia 11 місяців тому +16

    Lumineon straight up needs an evolution, I did actually make one and had some similar ideas to you like the 101 speed
    Lumiluneon
    Type: Water / Fairy
    Abilities: Storm Drain / Swift Swim / Dazzling (Hidden)
    Stats:
    HP: 89
    Atk: 49
    Def: 86
    SpA: 99
    SpD: 116
    Spe: 101
    BST: 540
    New Moves:
    Starry Sea, Moonblast, Flash Cannon, Hurricane,
    Moonlight, Quiver Dance, Hypnosis, Reflect, Light Screen
    Notable Lumineon Moves:
    Dazzling Gleam, Tailwind
    Starry Sea:
    Water
    Special (Spread, Pulse Move)
    90BP 100 Acc
    The users body glimmers like stars in the darkness and releases shimmering mystic water that hits opposing Pokémon. This may also confuse the target (10%)
    Pokédex
    Scarlet:
    It floats deep in the sea, appearing as though a galaxy floating in the dark depths. Many Pokémon are led astray by its alluring light as if they’ve fallen under a spell.
    Violet :
    Having mastered control of its own starry light, it has learned to imitate the power of the moon itself. It uses this to lure prey, and to fight for territory and food with other Pokémon.
    Evolves by levelling up while learning moonlight (which Lumineon will get as level up in this hypothetical gen)

    • @SwinubPlush
      @SwinubPlush 8 місяців тому +1

      PU maybe with a niche in NU

    • @princess_sarina_aria_elysia
      @princess_sarina_aria_elysia 8 місяців тому

      @@SwinubPlush I'd have no idea, never played singles but I assume that's better than Lumineon

    • @bonaaq86
      @bonaaq86 3 місяці тому +1

      Idk it's bulky, outspeeds a fair amount of pokemon the typing looks good, I'm not a competitive player but a pokemon with 540 stat total in NU sounds crazy lol

  • @magnuspkmn
    @magnuspkmn 11 місяців тому +24

    Notification gang!!! Never thought of No Guard on Luxray... I would've gone with Compound Eyes so the accuracy only works one way. Also a revenge killer Choice Scarf Arena Trap Carnivine would be so redeeming for the poor guy!

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  11 місяців тому +6

      You know, now that you mention it, Conpound eyes would probably have been more fitting

  • @NeoVault_
    @NeoVault_ 11 місяців тому +11

    Should also maybe give Kricketune Perish Song, Relic Song, Echo Voice, And also Normal typing.

    • @DragonTheOneDZA
      @DragonTheOneDZA 3 місяці тому +2

      One of the very few times normal is an actually decent addition to a type

  • @joshtheryuk
    @joshtheryuk 11 місяців тому +16

    You are right, i always forgot Lumineon exists. It doesn't help it's a pokèmon that you find near the end of the game and it has a bland design, bland typing and horrible stats. Why does it exist?

    • @mrttam
      @mrttam 11 місяців тому

      Does finneon evolve into lumineon? Or is it a luvdisc-alomamola situation?

    • @joshtheryuk
      @joshtheryuk 11 місяців тому +4

      @@mrttam Yeah Finneon is the pre-evo of Lumineon if i remember correctly but it's a waste of exp to evolve it because even after you evolve it it's still pathetically weak.
      Speaking of Alomomola, i'm still disappointed that GameFreak did not retcon it into being Luvdisc's evolution. So stupid.

    • @mrttam
      @mrttam 11 місяців тому

      @@joshtheryuk real. Such a missed opportunity. Thanks for the info though.

    • @Gojira_uz
      @Gojira_uz 11 місяців тому +1

      It exists because gamefreak really liked its cry

    • @mrttam
      @mrttam 11 місяців тому

      @@Gojira_uz really?

  • @heyguysxd
    @heyguysxd 11 місяців тому +15

    What about that cherry Pokemon? I forgot its name.

    • @frankanderson3368
      @frankanderson3368 11 місяців тому +7

      Actually has use on a sun team. Atleast they tried

    • @coltonwilkie241
      @coltonwilkie241 11 місяців тому +7

      The Pokemon you're speaking of is called Darkrai. It's kinda cool.

    • @Giratina575
      @Giratina575 11 місяців тому +3

      Cherrim

    • @cesar6447
      @cesar6447 2 місяці тому

      Yeah, when it doubled the attack of it's allies​@@frankanderson3368

  • @SS4Luxray
    @SS4Luxray 11 місяців тому +22

    Personally, I never understood why Carnivine had such a high SpAtk and Luxray was so slow… it never made any sense to me. Carnivine would benefit simply from redistributing its SpAtk to every other stat. Drop it by 70 to 20 and add 20 to HP, 15 Defense and SpDf and 20 to Atk and it’ll be a lot better. As for Luxray, just buff its speed, even just by 15-20 and No Guard is a great ability for it to have. I’d also recommend Compound Eyes, Reckless or Guts as well.

    •  11 місяців тому

      Has any non-Bug ever gotten Compound Eyes?

    • @SS4Luxray
      @SS4Luxray 11 місяців тому +2

      @ I don’t think so. I do love that’s it’s basically a signature bug ability but I feel it’d work for Luxray well, especially since I love running Ice Fang and Snarl on mine’s lol

  • @DragonTheOneDZA
    @DragonTheOneDZA 3 місяці тому +2

    I think the only reason lumineon isn't a fairy type is because they literally forgot it existed
    It literally has fairy wings. And if a stupid beachball can be a fairy. A beautiful glowing butterflyfish can too

  • @charlesleonard9496
    @charlesleonard9496 11 місяців тому +4

    I really love the aesthetic of your videos man! The music and the visual style is really cool!

  • @tabbender1232
    @tabbender1232 11 місяців тому

    Honestly Luxray's coverage is good for an electic, ice fang allows it to deal with grounds which is very rare for pure electrics.
    If anything the lack of a good physical electric stab is a bigger issue

  • @bigmonke3348
    @bigmonke3348 11 місяців тому +3

    Im surprised nobody ever decides to give luxray GLARE when its whole thing is having visual powers.

    • @bilis2866
      @bilis2866 9 місяців тому +1

      only snake pokemon learn that and luxray can paralyzed already

  • @fsgdevil7959
    @fsgdevil7959 11 місяців тому +5

    8:08 bro 97% accurate sleep move on a base 106 speed Mon gets banned lol

    • @mavriiick
      @mavriiick 11 місяців тому +1

      Not anymore 😔

    • @fsgdevil7959
      @fsgdevil7959 11 місяців тому

      @@mavriiick good point lol

  • @Lelllow
    @Lelllow 11 місяців тому +2

    I used carnivine on my first ever play through of Diamond as a kid! It was one of my faves back then and I still have a soft spot for it today

  • @fathertrillvan1790
    @fathertrillvan1790 11 місяців тому +2

    Theres a bit in my friendgroup that carnivine is the most popular pokemon so it was funny when you said its fallen through the cracks of obscurity

  • @thetrekace
    @thetrekace 8 місяців тому

    Don't know if you'll ever see this, but I just started watching these videos and they've given me quite a bit of inspiration for my work on Gen 10 rebalancing! In particular, this actually helped me pull together some missing pieces for Lumineon and the 3 Wormadam forms in particular, so if you ever see this, thanks for that! Your gen 3 video was also a help in reminding me that I completely neglected poor Masquerain and Surskit, and that I'd forgotten movepool updates for Tropius, so thanks for those too! And here I thought I'd be bored tonight. :)

  • @LazarouDave
    @LazarouDave 3 місяці тому

    Something I recently discovered about Wormadam Sand Cloak.
    It can learn both Skill Swap, and Fissure
    It's niche, but pair that in a double with an Ally with No Guard, and if you can stay alive, you've got a sweep machine...

  • @Hgvcunk
    @Hgvcunk 11 місяців тому +2

    I love how he uses a tourist spot from my region as a background to Luxray

  • @DaGrubb97
    @DaGrubb97 11 місяців тому +9

    Wormadam is my second favorite pokemon and I naively yearn for the day it gets new forms. Water, ice, and rock bagworms would be easy to do, c'mon. It also "bugs" me that so many people don't pronounce its name right. It's Wor-mad-am, like 'Madam'
    Edit: from what I can find on games that speak Pokémon names, it is actually Worm-a-dam

    • @garg4531
      @garg4531 11 місяців тому

      That’s how I hear it as
      But technically it’s “worm” + “madam”

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  11 місяців тому +1

      Hm, I actually haven't heard its name said in the anime. Does it have the emphasis on "madam"?

    • @munchrai6396
      @munchrai6396 11 місяців тому

      Heck yeah, was so incredibly happy when I heard it got Quiver Dance, I just wish its different movepools had more overlap. Maybe give it coverage from its different forms through breeding. That'd be incredible. Would totally jive with an entire team of different Wormadam if they ever gave me 3 more. I would die of joy

    • @DaGrubb97
      @DaGrubb97 11 місяців тому

      ​@@PokemonWoop Frick, I'm actually wrong. I pulled up the Pokedex 3D Pro game and Detective Pikachu 1 vids to double check, and they say Worm-a-dam :/ I swear I remember hearing Wor-mad-am from an official source back around the XY days. Mandela Effect is crazy

  • @tysondennis1016
    @tysondennis1016 8 місяців тому +1

    I’d give Kricketune, Lumineon, Carnivine, Wormadam, and Mothim evolutions. As for Luxray, I’m thinking I’d sacrifice some bulk and a lot of Sp. Atk for Attack and Speed, expand its movepool, and give it Frisk as an ability (which kinda makes sense).

  • @J0K32R
    @J0K32R 11 місяців тому +2

    Kricketune will always have a special place in my heart. First shiny I ever found on my first play through of Pearl when I was a kid. I didn’t even know what a shiny was before then.

  • @SupahTrunks7
    @SupahTrunks7 9 місяців тому +1

    Carnivine has a special place in my heart since I had a carnivine figurine as a kid so it featured heavily in a lot of my make believe stories even though I was never able to catch it in the great marsh.

  • @florence4483
    @florence4483 11 місяців тому +2

    As a wormadam enjoyer I agree they just need a base stat boost. Depending on the gen they can be taught signal beam/quiver dance, but even with that, and max ivs and ev training barely helps with such low stats overall :(

  • @matigamer329
    @matigamer329 11 місяців тому +7

    So I saw your video on twitter complaining on how you gave Luxray the dark type.

    • @bilis2866
      @bilis2866 9 місяців тому

      and they were right

  • @AlmightyThagomizer
    @AlmightyThagomizer 11 місяців тому +1

    The “Soloist” ability is a very fun idea, really enjoyed the video!

  • @TheLoneReni
    @TheLoneReni 11 місяців тому

    Whats wild is that most of the moves he gave these mons were ones I had to go, "Wait, they didnt have that before??"

  • @hibbs1712
    @hibbs1712 8 місяців тому +2

    Edit3: STOP THE LUMINEON HATE. MY LUMINEON PLUSH IS LISTENING WITH ME.
    As goes for any Pokémon, Lumineon thrives on a team built for it. And Lumineon is not a singles mon. I’ve got a competitive Gen6 doubles team featuring StormDrain Lumineon. The team revolves around shutting down enemy water types and enforcing the Water/Fire/Grass type triangle and playing strongly through it. Maintaining a strong focus on enemy steel/fighting types.
    Even modest Lumineon outspeeds most and is an amazing setter. If my Lumineon “Kite” can catch a storm drain increase, coverage icebeam/psybeam starts hitting like a truck.
    You would be smart to keep the opponent from getting a clean hit in on Lumineon, but you will be surprised the hits it tanks. My Lumineon holds a brightpowder>.< and my instaswitches are Sceptile and most fast electric types. Lumineon does not thrive in 4v4 doubles, but manages much better in the ‘switchier’ 6v6 doubles meta.
    Thank you for coming to my TEDtalk
    Edit2: paste from my shinyhunting notes:
    Finneon:✨🔵 (alpha sapphire)
    •30 eggs until 5iv modest dive ball female with modest nature
    •+30 +28
    •shiny dive ball finneon with swift swim (ability capsuled to storm drain) at /88 eggs/

  • @dippydurian
    @dippydurian 9 місяців тому +1

    I used Lumineon and Mothim on a team solely because of how forgotten they are. My cousin used a Carnivine too. I think it’s fun using obscure Pokémon even though they aren’t the best in battle.

  • @noahberan6498
    @noahberan6498 11 місяців тому +6

    I love Wormadam and Mothim, nice to see someone giving them love

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  11 місяців тому +3

      I'm pretty sure at some point Burmy and Wormadam were my favorite Pokemon weirdly. I still love them, but they're just not that great in battle sadly

    • @noahberan6498
      @noahberan6498 11 місяців тому +2

      @@PokemonWoop sadly that's true, hopefully they can get some buffs in the future. But as someone who's favorite Pokemon isn't too mainstream, I understand lol

  • @Mag_the_goat
    @Mag_the_goat 11 місяців тому +1

    Regarding some of the mons mentioned, I got some buff ideas for them
    Luxray doesn't need a type or ability change but rather wild charge needs to be 120 Base Power just like Double Edge and Luxray's Special Attack Stat (95) should be swapped with its Speed Stat (70) and now it's a fast Guts pokemon
    Lumineon, maybe swap its stats around, HP (69) with Defense(76)?, Special Attack (69) with Special Defense (86) and buff its Special Attack again by 10 (96). Give it Quiver Dance because butterfly/moth-like Pokemon all learn Quiver Dance and Lumineon a literal BUTTERFLY
    Wormadam, agreed with the stat buffs, give them some abilities too, Wormadam Grass= Grassy Terrain?, Wormadam Sand= Sand Stream, Wormadam Trash gets idk Iron Barbs? Wormadam Sand should also get Spikes and Shore Up, makes sense for Sandy Cloak specifically, and give all Wormadam forms U-Turn. Mothim Atk (94) and Spe (66) swap and we add 20 to the Spe and SpA (both 94->114)
    Carnivine is perfect, I'd let it learn Toxic tho and maybe make it have a signature ability where it's immune to bug moves and resists Poison (not sure if venus flytraps can handle types of poison/acid but since it uses acid as mentioned I think this decision makes sense)
    I like the Kricketune buffs the ideas are solid but I got a makeover of my own
    Stats: HP 77->57, Atk: 85->75, Def and SpD (i forgot but it's gonna be kept the same), SpA: 55->95, Spe: 65->95, Base Stat Total: 384->424, I'd make it Bug/Normal as well, unused type combo along with it fitting as a musician. I'd give it a signature ability where it's immune to Sound-Based Moves and when it uses Sound-Based Moves, it gets boosted in power by 50%, I'd slap Boomburst on it, Bug Buzz is sound based and give it U-Turn to pivot

  • @tidaloctoling715
    @tidaloctoling715 11 місяців тому +1

    In Pokémon Rejuvenation theres a shadow finneon that learns quiver dance which was a HUGE buff to the pokemon. I'd also potentially give it either the Flying or Fairy secondary type and Moon Blast for extra coverage. It also used to get Tail Glow in earlier versions but either way it was super helpful!

  • @gn4rpz-the-c4t
    @gn4rpz-the-c4t 11 місяців тому +1

    I'm surprised to hear luxray is in this video. The shinx line is downright OP in pokemon mystery dungeon explorers of sky, which came out just a year after platinum.

  • @VioletLunaChan
    @VioletLunaChan 11 місяців тому +6

    Please tell me, you'll keep the series going! I wanna see how you'd fix terrible Pokemon up to Paldea's Spidops.

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  11 місяців тому

      If people like it a lot then yeah! I'd like to do this series for every generation!

    • @yurei4414
      @yurei4414 11 місяців тому

      ​@@PokemonWoop
      If you do Alola is going to be fun, considering that even two of the starters are underwhelming in a story playtrough.

    • @VioletLunaChan
      @VioletLunaChan 11 місяців тому +1

      @@yurei4414 You sure? Primarina and Incineroar are perfectly fine. Only issue is Decidueye, who despite being supposidly the "fast" starter out of the three only has 10 more base speed, which puts him at a pathedic 70, with mediocre offenses and defenses and for some reason they made him mixed...

  • @LordShonji
    @LordShonji 11 місяців тому +2

    I feel like dark doesnt actually help Luxray. Tho giving it Strong Jaw would be alot better for it

  • @Yzerbruh
    @Yzerbruh 8 місяців тому +1

    Keep Luxray pure Electric-type.
    Instead lean into its name and theming; give it tail glow, access to more coverage with moves like signal beam, dazzling gleam and ice beam. Swapping out Rivalry for Infiltrator (you can't hide). And finally redistribute its stats, lower its health and attack, and put those points into speed, swapping out Guts for Quick Feet in the process.
    Intimidate doesn't need any attention as it's already phenomenal.

  • @FreyRosfield
    @FreyRosfield 11 місяців тому

    Rivalry it's actually worse than what you showed here, it boosts the power of all moves used by the pokemon by 25% if the enemy is of the same gender but lowers the power by 25% if the enemy is of the opposite gender, so it is situational and detrimental 50% of the time

  • @onlineskitty
    @onlineskitty 11 місяців тому

    genuinely, what reason does luxray have to be a dark type? nothing about it is thematically dark besides the fact that it has black fur. dark type pokemon are usually shifty and underhanded and it's even called the "evil type" in japan. i don't understand the reason at all. it wouldn't exactly make it better outside of stab crunch, giving it extra weaknesses. i feel like giving it strong jaw or even making it more bulky would work better.

    • @titoslounge1946
      @titoslounge1946 4 місяці тому

      Not everything needs strong lore to justify Pokemon typing. The dude has jet black fur and is very intimidating. Plus electric dark is a cool typing. He has “dark type” aura big time. He doesn’t need Japanese mythical folklore to back up this change.

  • @Solomon_Gamess
    @Solomon_Gamess 9 місяців тому +1

    Kriketune not getting encore is a crime

  • @sal_n729
    @sal_n729 11 місяців тому +2

    Lumineon is one of my top 3 favorite Pokémon so it always makes me sad hearing people talk down on it all the time, love your ideas for (much needed) buffs for it!

  • @megarayquaza2240
    @megarayquaza2240 11 місяців тому +1

    The thing about making Luxray a dark type is the fact it has LIGHT in its fucking name. Lux is latin for light

  • @captainweekend5276
    @captainweekend5276 3 місяці тому

    I actually did use carnivine on my first diamond playthrough when I was a kid! I distinctly remember that I had no good counter against Crasher Wake as I had gone for piplup as my starter, and had neglected shinx since I had a habit of skipping early game pokemon in favour of trying to raise ones for the mid game. It got me through Pastoria's gym but I ended up dropping it some time before the league, ironically not because it was bad, but because I loved evolving pokemon and pokemon that didn't evolve were always kinda boring to me.

  • @claudionosotti8812
    @claudionosotti8812 11 місяців тому

    i would personally give lumineon a secondary electric type, it's a more unique combination having just lanturn and rotom wash with the same type and would match the neon theme of the mon + swift swim 100%accurate stab thunders or hurricanes in rain would be a nice way to use it

  • @flamboyantwarlock7101
    @flamboyantwarlock7101 10 місяців тому +1

    Just a thought I had when you mentioned that Swarm is a generic ability they give to bugs when they don't know what else to give them: Swarm itself should be reworked to function like Plus/Minus, so each pokemon on the field with Swarm buffs each other pokemon with Swarm. Mono-Bug doubles!

  • @madisonhudak8626
    @madisonhudak8626 8 місяців тому

    Up until a few years ago, I thought that Luxray was an electric/dark type. I was honestly shocked it was a pure electric type when I played gen 4 for the first time.

  • @FaliusAren
    @FaliusAren 11 місяців тому +1

    Why is it strange for a feline not to learn Dig? Since when do cats burrow their entire bodies into the ground?
    And why would No Guard be appropriate? If Luxray can see enemies through walls, shouldn't it be BETTER at avoiding wild encounters, not worse?

  • @jurgeysamuel
    @jurgeysamuel 11 місяців тому +2

    My nostalgia insists there are no bad Gen 4 pokemon

  • @nazmilao
    @nazmilao 10 днів тому

    6:11 the first time i saw Carnivine i was surprised coz i came to the game knowing nothing. And i fell in love with it!

  • @porkhill6665
    @porkhill6665 11 місяців тому +1

    Gen 5 Maractus, Zebstrika, Monkey Trio, Audino, Drudigon

  • @HiyokoSupiritto
    @HiyokoSupiritto Місяць тому

    Carnivine deserves an ability related with the Fly Trap, maybe an inmunity against bug type attacks? That, alongside with the defenses you give it would give it a niche as a grass type pokemon inmune to the common U-Turn

  • @randomchiz
    @randomchiz 11 місяців тому +1

    Even though a large part of me wants to see Lumineon wreck shop with a special attack buff and Tail Glow, I think it'd work better to make it a support mon. It already has some good support moves in u-turn, encore, icy wind, and tailwind; Just give it +20 to HP and +10 Special Defense, as well as access to Wish, Light Screen, and Reflect. I can imagine getting a decent amount of mileage using that version of Lumineon.

  • @ajh22895
    @ajh22895 9 місяців тому +1

    Luxray's issue is it didn't get a good reprint in later gens. It's postgame locked in G5 and G6 (though would have been good to see alongside Pyroar in XY, probably was gonna be in Z), island scan in G7 and DLC in SS

  • @paynt3770
    @paynt3770 10 місяців тому +1

    Hey so I'm just here to bring up a cool and neat point about Luxray. Maybe haveing a bad move pool was the way it was balanced so you would have a reason to use the more underwhelming patchirisu for its weird amount of coverage and support moves with the tms it learns. Or, Pikachu + Light orb because Its broken af but you get it a little later then the other two.

    • @paynt3770
      @paynt3770 10 місяців тому +1

      I'm just sick and tired of pokemon not having these kinds of balancing thoughts and instead just throwing 60 pokemon in the wild area it's getting really annoying.

  • @maykonbrasileiro761
    @maykonbrasileiro761 11 місяців тому +3

    In my first time playing platinum i saw fineon and thought it looked cute, captured it to use as my water type...
    And oh boy did it dissapoint me

  • @cesar6447
    @cesar6447 11 місяців тому +1

    it give kriketune a unique ability, i was thinking on diferent concepts like
    "Melomaniac"
    Sound based moves by this pokemon have 100% accuracy
    "Duet"
    In double battles, if a pokemon uses a sound base move, pokemon with ability Duet uses it as well (like oricorio)
    "Grand Entrace"
    The first sound based move when this pokemon enters the battle, has +1 priority

  • @VegaPhil
    @VegaPhil 9 місяців тому

    The thing that sucks about carnivine is that a Venus flytrap Pokémon could look really cool but instead they went for a really goofy design. I would’ve used one on my team if it didn’t have those weird cartoony eyes stuck weirdly on the top of its head. I hope they go back and use a flytrap as a design inspiration again and carnivine isn’t all we ever get from that

  • @heiss9971
    @heiss9971 11 місяців тому

    3:56 "Thankfully I'm not :)" If someone took a look at your pfp they would instantly realize that you're the opposite. Rock hard wooper. My goodness that thang is thangin

  • @natebasham1746
    @natebasham1746 11 місяців тому +1

    Luxray should get night slash level up too, super strong STAB attack w/ high critical hit ratio

  • @emmanuelmousseau6039
    @emmanuelmousseau6039 11 місяців тому +2

    IDK why you would ignore kricketune's intended design like that. It's a musician. In the anime, a rather powerful one too. I think any good revamped Kricketune would make it bug/normal & lean into the sound aesthetic with moves like hyper voice, bug buzz, etc. My revamped Kricketune has a spread like this: HP73, ATK75, DEF61, SPA88, SPD61, SPE75, is bug/normal to get stab from most sound moves which are normal type and a new/old ability called cacophony. It's been coded since gen 3, but never used, likely intended for loudred & exploud. All sound moves get an extra 30% chance to confuse the target. Not too busted, but works with the idea of an orchestra where you lose the individual sense of each sound as it combines together. It fits with the line's design too. I do think your fixes are otherwise pretty good, but my boy kricketune needs some love.

  • @Sebastian-zj6mq
    @Sebastian-zj6mq 11 місяців тому +1

    Maybe Lumineon could get an ability that makes "light/ ray" moves priority? I know it's not a thing, but i think it would be a cool addition to it and make it unique.

  • @tim..indeed
    @tim..indeed 11 місяців тому +1

    I would give Lumineon another evolution. Make it water/fire or water/fairy and make it really use it's luminescence/light with offensive attacks, maybe even its own attack.

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 11 місяців тому

      We don't use the word its as a pronoun if there's an apostrophe in it the first time!

  • @RedDragonForce2
    @RedDragonForce2 4 місяці тому

    For Luxury, I would maybe give him Compoundeyes instead, under the same premise that X-Ray Vision "Widens" his field of vision. Also, an Egg Move in Dragon Rush. Dragon Rush and Iron Tail plus No Guard equals a long strong offense for coverage moves.
    ____________
    For Lumineon, I would also change it's Hidden Ability in Later Gens to Dazzling, ensuring it won't get outside so easily.
    ____________
    For Krickitune, make it Bug/Normal, because Normal has been associated with Sound and a lot of Sound based moves have been Normal Type like Upraod, Hyper Voice, Echoed Voice, Screech, etc. Secondly, give it those moves to give it on brand theming despite not being the best damage output.Also, for an Ability, I would give it Soundproof, also on theme. For other coverage moves... Metal Claw, Metal Sound, and Iron Head for Steel Moves given its hard exoskeleton. There's also Skull Bash, despite not being a viable move, as well as other Slash moves in later Gens and maybe even the Sharpness Ability then too.
    Thoughts??

  • @fossfox
    @fossfox Місяць тому

    you leave my bubble fairy rabbit alone, they've suffered so much to get their zero-to-hero story
    (also in Japanese mythology, rabbits are often seen as fairy-like creatures in many contexts such as the moon rabbits who pound mochi, which is also coincidentally the reason that most rabbit mons get Huge Power)

  • @Mybrainhurts69420
    @Mybrainhurts69420 9 місяців тому +1

    Give mothim +54 in speed +10 sp. Atk and atk give mothim tailwind icy wind swords dance feather dance dragon dance water pulse and infestation instead of bug bite
    Also give it wind rider

  • @avidpaintwatcher
    @avidpaintwatcher 6 місяців тому

    Honestly, Kricketune is really slept on with X-Scissor and fell stinger in like the Gen 4 remakes. That bug could do some nasty damage.

  • @darby2314
    @darby2314 11 місяців тому +1

    In Gen IV, Luxray can very easily get the fangs by breeding, specifically from Hippowdon. Luxray is my go to, all purpose, type coverage Pokemon in Sinnoh playthroughs.

  • @phatnana2379
    @phatnana2379 10 місяців тому

    If you gave Carnivine Regenerator, it would be a very decent Mon! Uts move-pool lends itself well to being part of a Fire/Water/Grass defensive core with Leech Seed, Stockpile, Sleep Powder, Toxic, Synthesis, Knock Off, Gastro Acid, and Protect

  • @hatsunemei3106
    @hatsunemei3106 3 місяці тому

    giving dark to luxray is the most overused trope, it would be more interesting to give it a psychic type since it haves fire and dark coverage to deal with bug and ghost types and stab zen headbutt is quite nice

  • @SecretGrottoCubone
    @SecretGrottoCubone 11 місяців тому

    I watch a lot of poketube, but something about your videos in particular always makes me want to boot up the games within moments of starting them! I really appreciate it!

  • @Soundwave968
    @Soundwave968 11 місяців тому +2

    I felt bad 4 kricketune for being useless so i used it in my pokemon diamond playthrough (the new one) and i made it champion, dunno why i did this to my self lol

  • @samhan5151
    @samhan5151 9 місяців тому

    as a musician, your redesign of kricketune sounds really exciting. I would totally use it if it had those ability/stats/moves .

  • @naip3
    @naip3 11 місяців тому +2

    THEY ARENT BAD, THEY ARE JUST SPECIAL!

    • @Amelia4111
      @Amelia4111 11 місяців тому

      Can you please not type in all caps?

    • @naip3
      @naip3 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Amelia4111 I LIKE TO LIVE THE LIFE AT 100%

  • @craft3334
    @craft3334 3 місяці тому

    Fun fact carnavine is a great early game Pokémon in Pokémon conquest.
    Since It can fly and attack 3 Pokémon in a row

  • @MrMonkey2475
    @MrMonkey2475 3 місяці тому

    0:05
    See everyone knows the top 3 gens
    3, 4 and 5 are peak pokemon. It doesn’t matter what your fav game is as long as it’s either gen 3,4,5 you are a true fan

  • @MarioBrand2000
    @MarioBrand2000 11 місяців тому +3

    For some Pokemon I just feel like Gamefreak hates them.
    Like Luxray, Kricketune, Lumineon etc.
    I love Kricketune. It would be so cool to use it in Gen 9 with Technician Pin Missle with the Loaded Dice. But it doesn't even get Pin Missile. Like wth man.

  • @waterierStone
    @waterierStone 11 місяців тому +1

    Luxray is kinda just a worse arcanine because both pokemon stats lean physical. That being said, 95 special attack is probably gonna make it so that your thunderbolts are just a better option than thunder fang. When it finally learns wild charge, then that's kinda better. However, its still a worse version of flare blitz on a type that has a liability against ground, and less super effective options.

    • @PokemonWoop
      @PokemonWoop  11 місяців тому +1

      Exactly. Like if Flare Blitz can be so accessible, let's give Volt Tackle to more physical electric types

  • @RecklessInternetting
    @RecklessInternetting 11 місяців тому

    Luxray can see through walls because it's got XRAY in its name.
    That joke would be booed out of a Dad Joke Convention, I'm pretty sure