Karpov vs. Korchnoi | Candidates Final 1974 - GM Ben Finegold
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- Опубліковано 1 тра 2016
- Grandmaster Ben Finegold covers the World Chess Championship 1975... which didn't happen. Karpov was awarded the title because he won the Candidates Tournament 1974 and then Fischer wouldn't defend. See key games from the Candidates final.
2016.04.14
Anatoly Karpov vs Viktor Korchnoi, Karpov - Korchnoi Candidates Final (1974): B77 Sicilian, dragon, Yugoslav attack, 9...Bd7
Anatoly Karpov vs Viktor Korchnoi, Karpov - Korchnoi Candidates Final (1974): C42 Petrov, classical attack, Chigorin variation
Yes ben you're back! Bloody hell I missed your videos mate.
AND ARJUN IS IN IT! YES!
The stupid, gratuitous insults of Fischer, who was obviously mentally ill at that point, are just Ben embarrassing himself.
What a disgrace. It's surprising St. Louis Chess would include this video on their site.
@Daniel Burke You should watch more Finegold in order to improve your sarcasm.
Ben in a suit, very suspicious...
ITS AN IMPOSTER!!!!!!! BEN NEVER WEARS A SUIT!!!!!!!!
no joke, when I saw the thumbnail it was the first thing that I thought of. Glad to see its top comment
yeah but it is the truth and ....the truth hurts man!
With advantage.
Truth hurts
"Trying is the first step towards failure." -Finegold
One of his best lines.
He got it from Homer Simpson. :)
Yeah!!! Ben is back!!! And Arjun! Hit the like button before even watching. Ben you are the best chess youtuber on the planet. Please launch your own channel.
He had antes own channel with lots of great videos, but it was closed for unknown reasons. Maybe he couldnt afford doing so much work
He did two years later.
Back to some Fine gold.
Yep. Its Fine GOLD. Good as gold.
:fire: it's lit
Mr. Finegold is the reason why I watch this channel
Ben's videos are always the best.
Welcome back Finegold!
All my dreams have come true! Ben, love your vids, please do more of them!
In increasing order: US Chess Championship, Blitz Event with Kasparov, Finegold lecturing.
Exactly
-_-
I always get so excited when I see a Finegold video!
OMG FINEGOLD
it's great you are back! hope we'll see more lectures soon. you're the Godfather of lecturing!
finally a ben finegold lecture!!!!
''I tried to win, but trying is the first step to failure''
THE LEGEND IS BACK
BEN FINEGOLD!!! Where have you been all this time! Finally! Thank you!
+Maks Rosebuster He went through an episode where he deleted his youtube channel, twitter etc... guess he needed time to get over whatever was bothering him.
www.reddit.com/r/chess/comments/3rr4uj/ben_finegolds_yt_account_is_deleted/
+Liberty Prime Very suspicious.
+Liberty Prime He was teaching chess in Charlotte. Don't jump to conclusions
Classico And that explains why he deleted his social media accounts... how?
Ben's back! Welcome home Ben! Hope to see lots of new videos from you soon.
Finally Mr. Finegold is back!!! after quite a long time. Hope he keeps the readings coming.
Grandmaster Finegold*
At 18:34 "Korchnoi and his trainers hadn't solved the dragon yet" that may be due to the fact that Korchnoi was being stonewalled by other GMs who refused to help him, in part because Petrosian claimed Korchnoi could never defeat Fischer.
It's impossible to say whether Korchnoi would've won the match if he did have top level seconds helping him, but instead eventually had to settle for the assistance of two British IMs and still wound up almost drawing the match.
Karpov used to be one of my favorite players, but it seems his staid nationalism and the behavior of his contemporaries to prevent Korchnoi from having a fair match, has left a perturbed taste in my mouth. (Whatever perturbed tastes like...)
Good to have you back Ben.
Finally! Nice to see You, Ben!
Welcome back!
Good to see you back, Ben.
FINALLY!! Welcome back, Ben!
We love you Ben! :D
I've noticed the Ben Finegold playlist had hidden private videos for some time now and I am very happy these are now public. Thanks for the videos!
+Andrew Isbell Wich ones are? so i can view it.
+Jonathan Marin Just this one for now but there are 2 more videos in the Finegold playlist that are "private" so I would guess these would come out over the next few days.
More videos from Ben, Nice!! =D
Simply excellent to see both Yazz and Ben back! Big smile here :)
BEN IS BACK! BEN IS BACK! BEN IS BACK!
GM Finegold is back! :)
Made my day.
wow pls more finally he is back
I could not believe my eyes when I saw it is Ben's video arrived. Thumbs up even before watching. :)
I can't press play until the popcorn is popped and the fizzy drink is poured. Ben is back!!
Yaaay BEN IS BACK
Did you intentionally line up the beginning music with Ben's air quotes?
welcome back
One of his better lectures. Clear analysis, occasional joke, historical background.
Finally Ben is back!
BEN IS BACK! Horible.... :D :D :D
Really missed you dude
I learned what the "Karpov style of play" was here through the examples given in the Korchnoi/Karpov lecture. By the way, I totally agree that if you can't see through the complications of counterplay and you have a winning advantage already, there is no need to take the sacrifice.
"Now, things are defending other things, and things are happening..." - He just described the game of chess.
That Anish Giri joke cracked me up xD
FINEGOLD IS BACK
Who made you put on a suit, Ben?
My life is turning to shit but grandmasta ben finegold is back!!! This man is a chess god freak.
Welcome back Ben
YESSSSS BEN IS BACK
Yes Ben is back.
Finegold video in 100 years, yessss
I did'nt know Ben Finegold until now, but I must say he is very entertaining!
10:07 "Was Arby's around in '74?"
Yes: founded in 1964 and had a couple of hundred outlets by the mid-1970s.
High quality comment.
In 75 Karpov certainly would have had a decent chance v Fischer. Was Fischer really up for playing him after a break, and if so why didn't he? Did he not have some mental instability? Would he automatically have been as good as in 69-72? And even if so, Karpov was no pushover. Kasparov improved through playing Karpov, who would surely have improved by playing Fischer, though he demonstrated his great quality over the next decade. Anyway, enjoyable video, thanks.
You're back ! :)
at 30:40 after G3, could black take the bishop with the rook ? rxF4
21:10 had me dying hahahahahaha
Yeeaah he is back!! :)
Thank god.
FINEGOLD IS BACK!!!!!! HOLY SHIT!!!
yes yes hes a grandmaster and all, but he couldnt make it to 1998 missouri state high school champion though
Grandmaster Mike Kummer likes your comment.
+Maks Rosebuster So does Grandmaster Ken West
i think that game was already covered by Yasser, but correct me if i am wrong (the dragon one)
I am kind of interested in the chess, but I mainly watch these videos because this guy is a comedian genius :D
Ken west never gets a break
man i laughed so Hard at 21:20. That giri reference
They did believe at the time that this was the championship. Fischer had resigned the world title in June 1974. Robert Byrne went around telling everybody in Moscow during this match that they were in fact playing for the World Championship.
Fischer himself admitted that his 9-9 tie clause was unfair, but that he wasn't going to back down anyway. (See Chess Life & Review, July 1975). In hindsight it looks like Fischer wasn't going to play anybody, under any circumstances. (That's why he resigned the title before his challenger was selected, so people couldn't say he was ducking any one specific person).
Fischer never intended to give up the title over the 9-9 clause. He resigned the title right after FIDE had voted to limit the match to 36 games. Fischer wanted to give up the title over the Unlimited Match, which, despite how badly it worked out, I still think was worth trying. Had that happened, history would have been a lot kinder to Fischer. (The Unlimited Match isn't *unfair*, just a bad idea) But when FIDE relented at the 11th hour, and granted the Unlimited Match, the admittedly unfair 9-9 clause was the only thing left to walk out over.
Can someone tell me which game Ivanchuk - Anand he's talking about?
Disappears and no videos for 5 months.... TERRIBLE!!!
Welcome back Ben you were greatly missed.
i miss u man
All matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. We are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Right, Arjen?
"Trying is the first step to failure"
YES!
Ben giving the lecture, Arjun in the audience, this is going to be good!
Yes! :D
Best GM ever 💚🧡💙
Did anyone else lose it @ 25:35 ? So funny. . "Now he's coming to get him." .... "You scared Arjen? I'm scared."
Long live Finegold! :)
People were booing until their throats were sore LOL
Is he also a comedy GM?
Well the reason we have more 2700s is because of rating inflation, it really isn't because people play better these days, cause they don't
FINEGOLD MVP
What does he say when he sneezes?
What does he say in the fake sneeze @21:10 ?
Anish Giri, Dutch super GM that draws every game
It's strange how Korchnoi seemed to be the 2nd best (active) player in the 1970s when he was in his 40s, yet I haven't heard much mention of him during his 20s and 30s in the Botvinik-Petrosian-Spassky era when presumably he would be have been a little stronger? I know there were a ton of strong Soviets at that time but he never seems to be mentioned among them.
Interesting question but, given Korchnoi's extremely long career, almost impossible to answer. Maybe he was less naturally talented than f.i. Petrosian, Tal or Spassky, but, already as a young kid, he decided to devote his life to chess and nothing but chess, so he kept on studying, learning, battling, struggling and surviving. Born in 1931, USSR youth champion in 1947, and 6th in his first USSR overall championship in 1952 (ahead of f.i. Bronstein, Smyslov and Keres!), Korchnoi finally won his first famous tournament in 1956 (Hastings), became USSR champion in 1960, was with the leading pack during the Candidates Tournament of Curaçao 1962 where he eventually fell tired because of the extreme tropical circumstances. He suffered from an ulcer, took a rest, came back and was incredibly strong in the 2nd half of the 1960s. USSR champion again in 1965 (ahead of Bronstein, Tal, Stein, Cholmov, Shamkovich and Averbach) and winning huge tournaments in Erevan 1965 (ahead of f.i. Petrosian, Stein, Portisch, Filip and Averbach), Gyula 1965 (14,5 points out of 15 games!), Sochi 1966 (ahead of Polugeavsky, Krogius and Spassky), Leningrad 1967 and Wijk aan Zee 1968 (just to mention a few). He qualified again for the candidates matches, beating Reshevsky and Tal, and lost the final against Spassky. Qualified again 3 years later, defeating Mecking and losing the semi-finals to Petrosian. Already around that time, 1971/1972, some chess insiders said "Viktor is now 40+ of age, we think that he will never be able to become world champion, despite the fact that he's been a top player for 20 years already."
But the 'West World' only really got to know him after 1976, when he won the Amsterdam tournament and asked for policital asylum afterwards. Apparently the 'old man' felt free and liberated after that decision and he became an even stronger player at the age of 45 already… well, I guess that Korchnoi's story after his escape from the USSR and eventually becoming a Swiss citizen, is very well documented and well known in the international chess world.
I've always been a huge fan of his ferocious battling attitude, but I think he was also a very complex and difficult person. He was also known for his daunting 'battles' with the chess clock. Korchnoi was really famous for his time trouble problems.
Along with Tarrasch, Bronstein and Keres, Korchnoi was among the best chess players who never became world champion. When I heard he died, I really felt sad. But Korchnoi will for ever remain immortal, thanks to his games. Rarely settling for a draw, and always searching for the most complex solutions, both for his opponent and himself.
Nice Tombstone reference.
who is ken west?
Yea. See his coverage of first game vs what eirawan did in his coverage... TOTALLY different aproach. Seirawan eats him for a dinner as a teacher ;/
Gonna grab some popcorn.
SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE A "RIGHT ARGEN?" COMPILATION PLEASEEE
ben! whoop whoop :)
Ben for President
21:08 - best moment! I always thought Anish Giri games were boring, but my word doesn't mean much. Now I'm backed by GM Ben Finegold. I also have a friend who's strong and also thinks Giri's games are rarely interesting to follow. But when I criticise Giri's play style for being boring, people in the chats usually say rubbish like "if you don't like Giri's games, it means you don't understand chess"... Pfff... Terrible.
I do too.
Oh hell yea
Bump
Ben you have simply got the best and real answer about the reason why Fischer/Karpov match didn't happen.. It's a sad truth for many chess fans but unfortunately that's exactly what happened... The whole US and especially the US chess confederation should have taken Fischer's illness more seriously instead of chasing him and exiling him from his own country. And of course you know who was the moron behind those punishments ==> Bush.
21:08 Welcome back Ben!
DAMN ! WB DUDE
i really like your videos and all of the channel but these videos are ways too large, it doesnt have to go for more than 20-30 minutes max in order to be a practice way to learn, thanks
You know that Yasser Seirawan made a video about this game before.
yes true, but we all know that yasser's lectures are really bedtime stories, and you fall asleep before you see the entire game
+ZombieNinjaPitbull But if you pay attention, you'll find that Yasser's lectures are actually very instructive.
+Maks Rosebuster yes you are very correct, but that soothing, calm, tranquil voice gets me every time
Which is why i watch finegold videos instead of drinking coffee, and i watch Yasser videos when it's my bedtime. Guess why.
We should bring back the first to x number of wins format. Let them sweat it out and fight to the finish
Anatoly Karpov crushed the field with a performance that I personally believe has never been duplicated to this day.
Following copied from a from a chartroom:
The Ultimate Boa Constrictor, Karpov, playing for the slow accumulation of microscopic advantages the opponent not noticing until all of a sudden, he realizes that his position is lost. (Just like 🐟 plays! 😫 )
In my opinion, you could easily make the argument that Karpov was the greatest champion ever.
He twice defeated the arguably best player never to become world champion, Korchnoi.
He jumped to a 5-0 games won advantage against Kasparov, in the WCC Match, whom many consider the greatest champion ever, before political shenanigans stopped the match.
***His performance in the 94 Linares Tournament will never be duplicated again, scoring *11/13 no losses* for a tournament performance rating ELO 2985!! With ratings inflation of almost 30 years, ELO would probably be easily 3100 today! A virtual human Stockfish 15 🐟 decades before it's time.
Also, that tournament included at least 6 or 7 future world champions and or world champion match runner ups from all chess orgs., FIDE, PCA/GMA etc and you could even technically add the women's future world champion Judit Polgar. (whom Kasparov cheated against in that game, double touching a piece, caught on camera 📸)
The talent in the 94 Linares Tournament was incredible.
The field at Linares 1994 was one of the strongest ever, and Kasparov prior to the event commented that the winner could rightly call himself "world champion of tournament chess". He were to regret having said that. 😒 Karpov smashed 🔨 the chess world elite to bits and pieces with an amazing score of 11/13 (+9 =4 -0) and a record performance rating of **2985**, (Google it!) after having won his first 6 games and left Kasparov and Shirov 2.5 points behind. This was arguably the greatest achievement in the history of tournament chess
They were: PCA World Champion GM Garry Kasparov (Elo rated #1 in the world), FIDE World Champion GM Anatoly Karpov (#2), future WC GM Viswanathan Anand (#3), WCC candidate GM Alexey Shirov (#4), WCC Candidate GM Vassily Ivanchuk (#5), future WC GM Vladimir Kramnik (#6), future WC GM Gata Kamsky (#7), WC Candidate GM Evgeny Bareev (#8), future WC GM Boris Gelfand (#9), GM Alexander Beliavsky (#16), future FIDE WC GM Veselin Topalov (#20) from Bulgaria, the best female player, future Women's WCC GM Judit Polgar (#22) from Hungary, GM Joel Lautier (#26) (he defeated Kasparov that day with black, so no slouch) from France, and GM Miguel Illescas Cordoba (#68) from Spain. Of the the top 10 players, only Valery Salov (#10) was missing.
Amazing feat not even today duplicated by Carlsen! 🏆
nice ben