Seirawan vs. Karpov | Haninge, Sweden: 1990 | English - GM Yasser Seirawan - 2012.12.13
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- Опубліковано 13 січ 2013
- Chess Grandmaster Yasser Seirawan presents a game played against former World Champion GM Anatoly Karpov in a lecture at the Chess Club and Scholastic Center of Saint Louis.
Yasser: I'm a top GM and I'd like to show you a game in which I beat a World Champion.
10-year-old Kid: I have so much to teach you.
hahahaha
I’m so glad someone else picked up on this.
@@onset5881 I think we all did
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Yasser is the vision of patience. That kid makes me feel homicidal and he's as cool as a breeze...
@William Boyle Obviously questions are encouraged, and rightly so. But it's one thing to ask a genuine question, and it's another to make unnecessary, frequent outbursts that hijack the lecture and compromise the experience for everyone else. It's also a matter of respect to listen when someone with much greater expertise is trying to explain something of value.
He's a young kid, so it happens. But really someone ought to let him know that it's incorrect etiquette and frankly disrespectful to the guest lecturer and everyone else.
@Michael Kraemerman This kid is the reason you’re doing your children a disservice if you put them only in chess. They end up solipsistic and badly socialised, making them terrible at managing themselves in cooperative or teamwork situations. This kid is great at chess, but he has no concept of what is appropriate. Put your kids in team sports along with chess. Chess is great, but chess alone is probably not helping them.
Yasser is my favorite chess player of all-time, and the fact that he's able to humor the kid the entire time without wanting to feed him to a bear makes me admire him even more. I would've called the kids parents to tell them to come pick him up, teach him some manners, and then after he's learned some manners, to feed him to a bear.
Philip T that plot twist though! I think if he learned some manners then rewatched this video he'd want to feed himself to a bear
I feel like Yassir would be the best dad ever
He would have soo many stories about Fischer when your sitting around a campfire
@@F0ll0wTheWh1teRabbit But what if you wanted stories about John McEnroe?
@@ronj9448Who is that ??
This is more a lesson in patience by the GM than in chess. Equally instructive though.
"Let me just say something...." Yasser patiently smiles yet again.
I made it 22 minutes but the kid won.
27 mins for me
therottenrook 25 min here. But the kid still won. Never met the kid, but I already hate him.
therottenrook
We should admire Seirawan for keeping his cool; even after the kid proposed something ridiculous for the 20th time, Seirawan manages to say "True enough, true enough..."
therottenrook At 26 minutes the kid gets annoyed that Yasser is interrupting him. "Let me just say something," he says.
TheAntiChr1st he should have told the kid to raise his hand, because he was not making sense and obviously was not contributing to what is suppose to be an intermediate class
Yasser is a saint.
The kid's enthusiasm is great and commendable, but it should be harnessed so that it doesn't become an ego trip. I think someone must have talked to him already, since more recent lectures don't seem to have this many unnecessary interruptions. That being said, Seirawan has to be the best chess lecturer around -and an amazing, intelligent and kind human being. These videos from the Saint Louis Chess Club are a fantastic source of learning. Thank you so much for posting them!
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agreed
That kid made me resign at 22:00.
That was the exact minute in which I resigned too lmao
The kid was truly annoying, but the lecture was great... You should give it another try :D
LOL, it was @ 20:41 for me
I resigned when he suggested, the pinned knight on c3 to capture the bishop on d5.
me too
seirawan is just great. whenever he explains chess it feels like he is explaining a battle in a story line way.love it.I hope and pray he lives for long long time
Yasser is not only a great GM but also the most patient teacher in the universe. Somebody else had to get that kid to shut up after comment number 500!
Yasser is the Bob Ross of chess. Happy little pawns.
23:00 - An Angel's Patience.
"Let me just say something"
sterlinguini savage
I realize people have questions but poor Yasser can't even get to the point for getting interrupted. He is very patient which helps makes for a great teacher.
Yasser is way too nice of a guy. Around 23:00 I thought he was going to finally snap and school the kid but he kept on going. Classy professional!
It's called being a civilised human being and not an arsehole like you probably are. The purpose is to ask questions and to learn.
SuperYtc1 I didn't know if it was a kid's class or a gm class with a couple of unruly kids in the audience. If its a kid's class, that makes me an arsehole. If it's not, then my point stands.
SuperYtc1 Jesus Christ, why do you have such a raging hard-on for that annoying prick of a kid. There's a difference between asking questions if you don't understand something, and saying every first thought that comes into your head, ruining the flow of the lecture for everybody else in the room.
+Alex Parker I'm pretty sure you need to evaluate your sad life and why you are picking on innocent kids who are trying to learn and have fun. Try to use that small brain cell of yours to figure out how to progress with your life without picking on kids and learn some maturity.
SuperYtc1 roasted!! you guys are really making a difference on the internet!
very instructive game about decision making, planning and piece play. I could listen to Yasser for ages :)
reddevilkev shame Yasser had a joint commentary this lecture
I think Yasser was patient but happy to have such a young mind who has such enthusiasm for chess. At the same time, the kid is very annoying, but questions lead to answers. It is probably harder for us to watch with the kid then for him to teach with the kid.
In Yasser's time, everything was done playing against one self with a chessboard and notes. High level games were torn apart and debated. It was all about the would haves, the could haves and the should haves. The only difference between that kid and Yasseer's peers was their ages in the debates.
GM Yasser Seirawan is a world-class teacher, lecturer and commentator, not to mention one of the most gracious and classiest players out there. I highly respect him and what he has accomplished. And don't mistake his gentle demeanor for weakness; if he needs to, he can take you apart. This is a great lecture, showcasing his amazing self-control and patience. Oh, and the game itself? Watch how he dismantles the great Anatoly Karpov after the latter made just a couple of questionable opening choices!
Yasser has so much patience. Like a saint. Bless you Yasser.
Why wouldn't someone politely ask that kid if he wouldn't mind letting Yasser do the lecture? It's not like he was even asking questions most of the time and the questions he did ask would have been answered if he had just let Yasser finish his thought. He was just trying to sound smart and either re-affirming things Yasser had already said or making claims that were wrong. I'm all for eagerness to learn and asking questions when confused, but being respectful and giving the lecturer the opportunity to finish his thoughts before you interrupt him with a question he was just about to answer.
Cam Staubus i get what you mean. Kids aren't wired for patience or lectures, they're wired for fun and approval so it's hard for them to get into the spirit of listening and memorising ideas, conceptualising and memorising aren't things kids are generally very good at and respect is a difficult thing to teach to someone who isn't knowledgeable enough to realise greatness. I'm not rebuking you, i'm just acknowledging that a kid shouting out in a class isn't the same as a college student shouting out in class, one has more self control and life experience than the other.
I think the best way for the kids to learn respect would be to have some games with the GMs as i believe they sometimes do. I come from a martial arts background in judo and i can say safely that the most humbling experience is being dominated by someone else with pure skill; and i think this would translate well into chess. At the moment i think a lot of the kids just hear a guy saying words and he's like a walking talking book, but i think if they played a game where the GM didn't hold back very much and just slowly built up the position and didn't let their opponent move or get any counterplay before slowly and methodically crunching their position up before taking all their pieces and checkmating them (maybe not being quite that harsh, especially to the nicer and more respectful kids), i think that would greatly improve their attitude towards chess. Maybe you could even do a tournament where resignation isn't accepted, because i feel like some kids may use it as an escape to avoid the acknowledgement that they actually lost.
These are just my ideas i don't know if you have any of your own or any problems with them, but of course it's not down to us to decide how the chess club's run - we're lucky enough to have the lectures posted up on youtube
Cam Staubus i also understand as well that the kind of voice the kid has is the 'i've fluked a high rating and i'm gonna talk in a grown up voice and demonstrate that me and you are on the same level of understanding far above their mortals who are only 9 years old' kind of voice that does grate my ears quite a lot.
He definitely is someone who needs to be crushed mercilessly and positionally, back to my judo experience informing me, when you can't move and you don't know why (because you're opponent's pinning you, or in this case he's squeezing your position dry of new squares and taking all the space) then there's nothing that will frustrate you more and nothing that will make you realise your place more and nothing that will teach you respect and the sheer depth of understanding the better player has over you more than that experience.
A quick four move checkmate can be laughed off, but to be subdued and immobalised and slowly deconstructed when your image of yourself was so high, it will send you crashing back down to earth and will make you shut up much quicker than someone trying to explain the concept of manners to you
Cam Staubus sometimes i have lots of questions in my physics of maths lectures but i hold most of them back because i don't want to be the only other voice talking because i'm worried about sounding like that kid
This guy is funny. Everytime he cracks that smile he looks like he's high on acid. Even he's peaceful speaking suggests it. Could listen to him forever.
lmao
Have you seen serawan in the 70s? Acid was involved lol
saw this for the first time some 6 years ago. Very instructive the way he just crushed a world champion with a supposedly quiet line. thanks for the material
I love how Yasser teaches in great detail with his calmness and sense of humor. Great teacher, commentator and chess player ofcourse. Keep up your great vids. Cheers!
I know I'm seven years late, but I just came here to say that "fianchetto" is the endearment form of the italian word "fianco" (meaning flank, side), so it can be roughly translated as "pretty on the side".
Great lecture, GM Yasser is undoubtedly one of the best chess teachers in the world!
'And it looks like his bishops are stuck'
Seirawan: what the heck are you talking about? His bishops are stuck? Alright let's just move on
Kid! You're not a grandmaster
Thisnis the kind of guy who beats his little brother in twenty minutes, losing his queen on move 3 because he forgot to get the bishop for scholars mateand eventually winning by checkmate in a position that's actually stalemate while his own king has been in check for five moves, then says 'i calculated this line starting from move 2'
Only after hours and hours of brutal practice and years of discipline could Yasser demonstrate the mental strength not to throw that kid through the window. He's only gone up in my estimations after that display of restraint.
Can't anyone in the public ask the kid to shut up?
The kid has good questions.
@@psalmtone2008 kid has horrible questions, he doesn't even understand you can't put your king in check
@@psalmtone2008 Has he?
Around halfway through I started to really get annoyed with this kid and I started to wonder if I could find a comment in the comments section about him considering the comments are always very kind on these videos. Lo and behold, every single comment is about him. He is the perfect example of what happens when parents don't tell their kids no and teach them manners but instead just tell the kid how special and amazing he is. He couldn't go 20 seconds without the attention being on him.
I'm in the same boat as you. I tried to tough it out, but about halfway through I had to pause and see if anyone else felt the same way about the kid as I did. I was also surprised to see almost all the comments focused on the kid. haha
Very politely the parents of that kid need to educate him on how to attend this GMs presentation
GM Yasser Seirawan.. he speaks at a pace that I can keepup with. Listenning tohis leactures gives an insight into whats happening on the chessboard much better than other GMs...
Yasser is awesome
why bring him to this lecture? it's so far over his head it's just ruining it for everyone else.
I am really enjoying this format of lecture! I am impressed with GM Seirawan because just the fact he beats Karpov? Priceless!
What an awesome teacher and such patience with such a massive difference between the level of the class and yasser
At the end of the video Seirwan talked about GM Walter Brown. It still breaks my heart that he is gone. I met Walter in Southern California back in the 90s. He was a very nice person to me. I wish I had asked for his autograph, but I was just struck he was talking to me!
Yasser and Ben are such entertaining teachers. Would love to attend one of their lectures!
I really want to compliment the GM - what amazing patience! Thanks for putting these videos up, they are truly helping me learn.
As for the kid, he was the highlight of my day - I have been cracking up literally ALL DAY at his ridiculous interruptions. Favorite part? Yasser's response at around 20:00 - esp the eyebrows at 20:24!
Seirawan is a good lecturer, makes his lessons enjoyable and communicates with the crowd, but those unnecessary interruptions were just so annoying, but it's even more amasing how Seirawan stays calm, never gets nervous, he's just always in control like a good lecturer.
Profound analysis of this endgame win. GM Seirawan is a deep and elegant thinker. As to the audience, kids will be kids. We've all been that kid.
kewkabe
Why would she teach you such a disrespectful thing to do? If you are being listened to, you want the one listening to understand what you are saying. Show some respect, and ask questions when you don't understand, so you don't waste the time of a great player.
japphan This is an interesting discussion... here are few things that come to mind....The above comments reflect cultural and behavioral norms that differ among countries and neighborhoods. In America it's not uncommon for kids to speak or act without too much consideration.
On the other hand, the CCSCSL teachers encourage the kids to ask questions and try to answer questions posed by the teacher. Many kids will not speak up in class for fear of being wrong or sounding dumb.
When one overcomes those fears then there's a natural tendency to become a blabbermouth or "smarty pants" and generally go too far the other way. ...that's about it for now, except this: Playing chess is almost always a good thing for kids to do.
TY for all you do, Saint Louis Chess Club and Scholastic Center!
+japphan Can you explain how listening is disrespectful?
Cam Staubus
If you talk about something for an hour, do you prefer to be understood or not? I suppose you prefer to be understood, otherwhise you would be wasting your time. If someone does not understand you, you would want them to give you the information that further explanation is required. The way they have to do this is by asking questions.
This makes you not waste your time. Thus, "listening" when you are not understanding, wastes the speaker's time. Making people waste their time is disrespectful.
You're assuming that the people listening aren't understanding what he's saying. Interrupting Yasser before he can finish his sentence is more disrespectful than listening and saving questions until he is finished completing his thought.
Instead of cutting the little chap into pieces, he just calmly smiled. Amazing!
I wish the kid would've shut up. Seirawan has more patience than me.
It was embarrasing. It's like explaining one thing and the kid start's talking about things that aren't even related. Eventually Yasser got tired of correcting him and just started agreeing with the kid just to shut him up.
Does that kid think he is getting a personal lesson?...
yes he has the right to think that. its not meant for youtube. youtube upload is just a sidepiece
Or that he is Giving one
So humble mr. Seirawan. I love your vids.
There’s a difference between being eager to learn and being eager to be right. The latter is on display here.
Yasser is so nice to the kid who keeps asking questions. He is so patient, what a saint!
There are gifted children and then there is this kid.
fell asleep watching this lecture. heard the calm soothing voice of yaz lowered my eyelids just a little and bam fast asleep. Then the little kid in the front row yelled and woke me up. I think that's why little kid is there.
I really love listening to Seirawan's lectures.He has an aura of calmness with coolness around him.And that sense of humour doesn't hurt either.
What a great lecture thank you
Fianchetto in italian is a diminutive for Fianco, which means Flank.
Interessante
I may point out that a few people did what the kid did, sort of calling out things that either didn't contribute to the lecture or where things Yasser was about to go through, but everyone does that now and then. What the kid did that was different is that he did it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again
واحد من أفضل المحللين بأسلوبه الرائع ... وطريقته الفريدة .... شكرا ياسر سيروان
These lectures should be titled Yasser's Academy of Chess Magic.
Interesting stuff. Thank you :D
Mr Seiravan must be very patient with thes kids, but anyhow, i love to watch his lectures cause he explanes so understandable and with a lot of humor - thanks for that, yasser, i'll watch all the lectures you will make!
Their Chess Club is state of the art!!!
Can't an adult make the kid shut up for a second? Yasser is a saint.
thx mr. Seirawan. I think we all learnt more than chess.
As a person from Sweden, it was fun to hear Yasser try to pronounce Haninge. Not even close 😁. But he seams to be an awesome person.
He is an excellent lecturer. In another reality, he would be a much-loved university professor.
GM Yasser has a great knowledge and understanding of chess, but moreover he has the ability to share his views with others and make them to develop! Great lecture... well... except the interrupter kid who kept shouting his ideas without any respect....
Should probably label the vid with "beginner" or something bc this is unwatchable bc of the annoying kids. "Why doesn't he hurr durrr mate you?" "Well, it's my turn."
I hope the kid or the kid's parents read these comments and try to talk to him about the power of listening.
Yasser is one of the most delightful chess grandmasters / human beings on Earth.
Seirawan: our goal is to open up the position
Kid: make it bigger
Now that may confuse a lot of you but what's happened is quite simple:
The kid heard 'our goal is to' and he anticipated this was a question which he (being the highest rated player in the omniverse) was the only person capable of answering. So he thought the answer to the question was 'to increase our advantage' (oh i should also mentione he heard 'led in development' but probably mistook the word 'development' for a word he actually understood the meaning of)
I don't know how Seirawan can be so patient. There needs to be a sign flashing saying "Questions later". I couldn't watch any more after the rude interjection at 27:10. I kept waiting for him to finally lose his patience.
Very instructional game!
According to the chess.com computer its white +1.12, for those wondering (after c7 - c6)
Also I remember playing in Berkley, and while the chess tournament was going, The college outdoors started loudly with these loud drums, and I remember Walter smiling saying, "the drums, the drums of Berkley.
Yasser, a good natured man with the patience of a Saint. Kid, let the GM grown up talk. :D
Oh right! Now I remember why I didn’t watch this one all the way through!
Yasser is such a gentle guy, yet so ruthless over the board
His voice is so soothing
Yasser is much more paitent then all of us, I would of called his parents and said we will be refunding your money
Erm, awesome game! A perfect example of how strong players can really exploit mistakes in the opening. As for the kid.. it's been a couple years, has he figured out the English yet or is he still interrupting legends? My money is on duck tape. That is, they've made a killing and that kid will never grow a mustache. As for the argument to feed a child's mind, there's a bloody time and place. I sure as hell didn't interrupt adults while they spoke when I was a kid. Something about getting smacked across the face discouraged it...
@d2d4a6: If age 12 is too late to become a "top 4th-5th best player in the world" then how did Botvinnik become world champion? He also learned chess at the age of 12.
SOMEONE JUST KICK THE KID OUT
I'm considering adding timestamps just so everyone can skip all the mindnumbing interruptions from the audience.
I ran the position through stockfish that you said is lost and it was a tie the whole way
Secondly a brilliant game by Yasser
'All you need to do is check 'em'
Okay so i'm sure no one wanted him to say that at all, but i listened to it a few times and would like to give some explanation as to what he's saying based on his intonation and phrasing.
He's saying many things, here's a short compilation of the many ideas he's presenting in this one phrase:
I'm an adult so i'll talk with adult inflection and abbreviation and staccato,
Once you check him it'll be wasy but i didn't listen to the first bit so i'm just trying to figure out how you're gonna check him
Such great knowledge being over run by a small mouthy kid that should listen more than talk.
Yasser:"So that was my analysis of my English game against Karpov. Any questions?"
Little kid: "what is the english opening?"
Took the kid five minutes to realise his rook's attack but still feels like the fact that he saw it warrants him interrupting a grandmaster explaining why this position is unclear but the prior position was unsalvageable
the incredible thing is how that kid missed every possible pin and tactic.
The fortress is also a middle/endgame tactic. You lock up the position and defend every point of attack to such an extend that your opponent cannot penetrate without sacrifice. The result is usually a draw.
What would Ben Finegold say about this kid? Terrible. Awful.
You!! From the land that won't shut up... wait what? He's like... yeah
Ben would've called him an idiot.
I was just thinking his name must be Arjun.. I have used the same ploy when teaching myself: mention the hyperactive kid's name in every other sentence and he doesn't speak out. Trouble is Yasser is too kindly, and also doesn't know the kid's name.
Ben would have been very rude, for sure. Herein Seirawan far outclasses Finegold: everyone can make boorish comments, but only a true master of himself can be corrective, yet stay fully gentle about it.
"No talking."
What a great guy!
24:08 kid is confused, he didn't see O-O-O+ he saw knight takes bishop, not realising it was illegal for the same reason it was last time he extatically recommended it
Yasser's record vs Tal, Karpov and Kasparov collectively is 7 wins, 7 losses and 13 draws.
Great game
9:00
'He's almost lost'
'Hm yeah i knew that, how could he play that badly. Karpov is nothing, never even heard of him'
Damn don't anyone else think GM Kid's insight into the position is well founded and extravagantly inspiring. How could he understand so much at the tender age of 'mum can i have a chocolate bar please'?
Most kids would be aggressively shouting while kicking balls up a field, or doing fake martial arts, or obnoxiously shouting out during lectures about things they don't know anything about. But not this kid, this kid's already 3000LOL strength
I nominate Yasser Seirawan for Nicest Person Ever.
What was that kid trying to argue at 26:04?
don't worry that kid finally went home at 41.52
Hahaha, his pronounciation of Haninge. So adorable. :D
I think it's great that he's asking and wanting his game to evolve. But he should probably have held it back a little.
Yass! "Fianco" is Italian for "flank". So, "fianchetto" simply means "flank play".