Perception Outlaw Kayak On The Water Review Impressions Good and Bad
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- Опубліковано 7 жов 2024
- Perception Outlaw Kayak On The Water Review Impressions Good and Bad. If you are considering buying this kayak watch till the end when i discuss my impressions.
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Ryan DeLong , known as RHINOjoe creates fishing and outdoor videos on youtube and other social platforms. RHINOjoe Outdoors provides fishing tips and techniques for mostly largemouth bass, smallmouth bass, and spotted bass. Ryan also enjoys other outdoor activities where he will vlog and document also.
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Let me know if you have any questions about this kayak in the comments and ill try to answer everyone! ***Disclaimer- I am not sponsored or in any way affiliated with any kayak manufacturer. This kayak was bought with my own cash money!
Mine will be here June 2 looking forward to taking her out and catching a few! Thanks for the review 👊🏼🐟
Thanks for the review. Just drove almost 2 hours to get the only grasshopper colored one I could find. Even Perception is backlogged until late July! CANT WAIT TO GET ON THE WATER! I’m 340lbs! I’ll update ya soon!
Question - i live at Ocean Isle Beach North Carolina and i'm looking for a fishing kayak to use on Intracoastal Waterway. Would this be good? I've never owned a kayak i've been in one years ago buy not in a while so i am wondering 1) do you think it would be a good fit for the ICW? 2) is it hard to paddle this kayak 2-4 miles? I live like 3 miles from Ocean Isle Beach bridge and i would like to be able to paddle it down there. Do kayaks like tend to be easier or harder to paddle a ways?If you lived where i do what would you do? Get it or go with something else? If so - what? It would also be cool if i could use it to paddle all my baits out when i'm shark fishing on the surf. Do you think that would work with this or would that be a bad idea? Pleaseeee help man summer will be gone b4 we know it and i really need help finding a kayak (this one) or one like it in this price range to use on the Intracoastal to get back up in some of the creeks and cut backs on the island. PLEASE!
SINister Gaming As with most things, I would say it depends. The main thing with this kayak is the fact that you are going to sacrifice some speed for stability. So if one of your main priorities on the flats is to be able to stand and fish then I would say this is a good choice. If you are covering a lot of water just understand it’s not the fastest kayak out there.
SINister Gaming I would say that for the the price and customizing potential. This kayak is hard to beat! A friend that owned a Bonafide 127 said stability, speed and tracking are similar enough. Especially with the outlaw being half the price. With a more walkable frack as well. This is my first kayak and I’m a large man of at least 330. This kayak is awesome! The only time I’ve fell off was when I wanted to. Lol! It has my stamp of approval!!!! FOR SURE!
Nice review. Bought the Outlaw yesterday and went immediately from the store to the river I frequent a few days a week. As someone who started kayaking with 16ft touring boats 20+ years ago and fishing with 16ft Tarpon sit-on-top, then moved to Perception Hook Angler 10.5 (started cracking in hull where seat mount is "mold welded" to the hull, plastic welding even with reinforcement is cracking) the Outlaw is very comfortable and my first boat that I can stand up on with no worries. My Tarpon was 65lbs, excluding the anchor system and rudder but I loaded it onto any vehicle roof easy enough. The Outlaw is 77lbs but being shorter it is easier for me to balance overhead for raising onto my car roof (haven't loaded it onto an SUV yet). The Hook 10.5 weighed maybe 40lbs and was a breeze to throw on any roof but I feel the lighter weight and construction of the seat base to the hull are the reason for failure, but it had a good run over 5 years with 3-4 days of use every summer.
With only one day of paddling I am very happy with this boat and could never go back to a non-stand-up type boat for fishing and will compromise with the weight. I feel like I need a longer paddle though with how high the seat is as I could not get into an efficient paddle of rotating my torso and getting any propulsion at the same time, instead I need to reach far to each side and pull with my shoulders, and while doing so making lots of noise with each paddle as the paddle blade is only under water for a short stroke and still not getting much thrust.
My first mod will be adding an anchor trolley, and finding a way to do so without making cutouts to get my hands into the bow and stern to hold fastening hardware (nuts and washers). Probably going to go the route of slightly larger drilled holes to accept rubber nutsert bungs, simalr to what hold some factory roof rails to vehicles.
Glad to hear you enjoyed the kayak. The “Tri Grip Rivets” are a good solution for attaching things where you can’t reach the back side of the attachment point. They flare out on three sides and are solid.
Here is a link to some if you are curious. Thanks for the nice detailed comment as it helps others that come here!
Tight lines and happy kayaking!
I ordered mine last week. Should be here tomorrow. Your videos helped a lot. Keep up the great work! 👍
Hope you enjoy it!
Ordered one today. I’ve been scouring the tubes and such for a while to find an alternative to my battle worn Perception Search 13 and I’ve decided that this, is the one. I like the no frills, grab and go concept as well as having the opportunity to buy add on features as needed. Your upstream review is refreshing, no one ever does that. Thanks for an honest review!
Thanks! I really appreciate it. I do a lot of paddle up and float back trips. It is a great basic kayak but with a lot of features for such a low price. Hope you enjoy it and get a lot of time on the water this year!
@@RhinoJoeOutdoors so speaking of floating, I’m looking for one I can fish from, but also will use for rec floating with friends/family/kids. Is this going to be ok for that as well? Most people that go have more sit in rec style ones. I’m not educated enough to know if it’ll fit in or not
@@davidbartsch255 it will work great for both situations for sure. Your back will thank you because of the comfort of the seat!
well done, RJ! Thanks for taking the time to review!
Thank you for watching
Good review. I'm a long-time Perception fan and I like the look of this new boat. The simplicity of the design keeps it light and affordable, and the lack of "dry" storage -- which usually isn't really dry anyway -- is actually an advantage because it eliminates places where waves can slosh over and get water inside the hull. I'd buy one if my family didn't already have eight kayaks and a canoe. Liked and subbed.
Hey thanks for subscribing! That’s exactly why I wanted it. Simple layout and stable! I’m contemplating going out and doing a “does it flip video”.
Just bought this kayak in blue today and excited to take it out this 4th of July weekend! Thanks for the awesome video. As a very large man(300lb), I bought the boat solely for the stability/capacity to price ratio. I will try to remember to update this comment on how it feels for me.
Well I think it should do a good job for you! For sure report back and let me know. Always love seeing comments like this and thanks for watching
What's your quick review? I ordered this yesterday. It looks like exactly what I need. I'm around 250# so stability was a major selling point, and I've been wanting something to navigate small local rivers and the backwaters
hey man I'm just curious about your review i am also a biggun and was looking at this one as it could accommodate my size
Nice review. Your Apple watch not being fastened properly was making me nervous, one quick bump and it would've been with your coffee.
Yeah I am a lucky duck that it didn’t end up going for a swim!
I’m trying to get three of these for myself, the wife and our son so we can hit these lakes and ponds. Great price point. These things flew off the shelves and are hard to find. Hopefully, production will get back on track and we’ll able to make the purchase. Great review on this kayak. Thanks!
Chris I am glad to hear. Hope you and the family get out soon on some. I am thankful to have mine. It’s a great kayak and you can deck it out or keep it plain. Especially with all the built in features.
I am looking at this as my first kayak. As soon as I saw it, it looked like everything I was looking for, in my price range. I will mainly be floating downriver on shallow slower moving rivers, and lakes. Every review I have seen makes me think that this is the one.
Give it a try! Let me know how ya do!
A year later did you buy it? What ya think? I ordered this for my first kayak, im probably going to power it right away, I'm not to into the paddle part of kayaking just want something for the small local rivers. Waiting for delivery now.
Thanks for the review! I would have drank the coffee
I didn’t want to ride the porcelain pony after getting giardiasis. Lmao
I got one 2 weeks ago, had it out twice and absolutely love it, wish it had a little more pads on the deck under seat and in the back.
That’s awesome! Hope you enjoy them! They are a great value!
I also use a 3/4" diameter 8 foot stake out pole fits perfectly thru scupper holes or my anchor trolley. I have also used a 35 at cooler instead of seat but not as comfortable without the back rest.
I’d need a back rest. Neat design but I couldn’t imagine not having a back rest. I have a stake out pole I just haven’t used it in years
Thanks Ryan
Thank you for watching. I need to get her out on the stream soon and name it!
Great vid, my wife and i are considering these for our river trips.
Thanks. Like I said in the review, depending on the type of river you are on they can be a great choice. The stability is great
I’m looking to get my first kayak, mostly for fishing. This seems like quite a lot of bang for your buck, might pull the trigger before the summer is up!
I think of fishing kayaks 5-8 years ago and the bang for the buck is very true. You basically can fish with it out of the box. Good luck and let me know how ya like it if ya get one. If you have any specific questions feel free to comment below or DM me on instagram. Tight Lines!
Great review 👍. Love the seat. And that's a nice looking kayak.
The seat is super comfortable and its really easy to stand and move around in!
@@RhinoJoeOutdoors thanks for sharing 👍👍
Walmart sells a coffee cup made by Contigo that will keep your coffee hot for like 3 hours or more and it has a sealed lid so you won't spill your coffee I love mine might want to check it out they're really nice.
Nice review, really enjoyed the frankness of it. Subbed you as well, some good content on here. Cheers from down under 👍
Thanks! From Down Under! How cool! So glad to have you with my “RHINOjoe Nation”!
Great review! You’re a hoot, appreciate the info.
I just try to be myself. Lol it’s hard on video to just relax and be you. Thanks for watching! Appreciate the comment!
That creek reminds me of my home flow here in Central Ohio...thanks for the insight, may just get one!
Thanks for sharing and the fishing feels brother.
Thank you!
Perfect. Thanks
Thanks for watching
Great vid man 👍🏾, one question , would you say it would make a noticeable difference in paddling effort in the lowest seat position compared to the highest position . ...
The outlaw seat only has the on position or the “stowed” position. Unfortunately it wasn’t designed with a low seat option. Rather I never had a problem with the stability with the seat even as high as it is.
I'm looking for my first kayak. I want one that I can get exercise, fish from, watch birds, and wildlife, but I want to kayak both rivers and lakes. I love the features offered on the Outlaw 11.5. I also like the Bonafide SKF117. Would you share your thoughts?
It really depends on your intended use. How much do you think you will be on the creek vs lake? If it’s primarily a lake kayak you occasionally take on streams I would say either is a good choice. If you want a stream kayak I would recommend the Jackson Kayak coosa or the crescent kayaks shoalie.
nice touch with the titanic soundtrack 👌🏻
Thanks I try to really make pieces of UA-cam art! With these creations! Lol
haha Hey RhinoJoe. Watching cause you're from KY.
Bluegrass born and raised.
NOOOOOO! Not the coffee!! You make some really nice catchy video's! Well done!
The fish seemed to get really jazzed up once they got a sip of that coffee
Thank you! I appreciate the comment! Still making videos. Trying to get 1% better each time! Hope you have a great day James!
Debating on this or the Lifetime Teton Pro 116. Both I've heard good thing price difference is the big thing. The Lifetime is $250 less. Not going to do a ton of fishing but I am a bigger guy so want stability especially it being my first Kayak. Thoughts?
The outlaw will probably be more stable and the seat looks to have more adjustability. A big factor of enjoyment is the comfort of the seat. The hill design of the outlaw is really stable. The lifetime Teton doesn’t look like a bad kayak though. Just depends on what you are looking for. I also understand $250 is a big chunk of cash. If you are a bigger guy it’s hard to go wrong with the outlaw in my opinion.
Yes this yak is kindve a tank to paddle against the current. You can add small 5" dry compartments but nothing bigger. Hell yeah a free lure can't beat the price. Thanks for the review even though I already have it but still justifies my purchase.. I did buy a dagger zydeco for rec paddling since I didn't want to try the outlaw on rapids and low head dams.
David Manevich i might get something better next year for streams and use this for a “friend” kayak. Thanks for coming by. I’ve been out a lot on my slayer max propel recently.
Just bought one and so far I love it. I am wondering about the various mounting options. It didn't come with an owner's manual and perception doesn't make one specific to this kayak describing all it's features which is mindboggling. Are those round caps around the edge for mounting? Do the tracks accept all kinds of mounts or specific ones? Thanks. Great video. Also what size paddle do you use. With the height being as high as it is, I was figuring around a 250cm?
The track mounts are compatible with any track mount system like yak attack track etc. I like using the track ball to mount stuff on the track.
The perception solo mounts are a brand specific thing that perception produces. I’ve never used it honestly.
I fish a lot of rivers with current and you said that this kayak would not be ideal for that. Which stand-up kayak would you recommend?
I really liked my Jackson Cuda 12 in rivers. That or the coosa are solid choices.
So I been in the market for a new kayak for a few years now... The one I'm currently using is a sit in and honestly it does everything I need.. The only problem is the seat, after a few hours it is not comfortable at all.. So I've been looking at a few sit on tops and this is one of them.. They all seem to gave a decent chair. And would probably suit my needs.. I'm generally river fishing in their one I've got now and paddle up to maybe 2miles downstream then back up when I'm done. How do you think this kayak paddles? I've got a buddy that has a feelfree lure and we fished together a few times and when I got back to the launch he is hundreds of yards back. So I got into his kayak and paddled down river a bit and then back and his kayak was alot of work getting back to the launch.
I would say if you spend the majority of your time paddling up and floating back down to go with a kayak that is more efficient for paddling. This one is very stable but also as a part of that has a lot of drag when it comes to paddling. My Jackson Cuda 12 paddled a lot more efficiently
@@RhinoJoeOutdoors Thanks man
I weigh 260lbs do u think it would still be stable?
I do believe so. It has good initial stability (when you stand flat) and great secondary stability (more weight on one side or leg). Just remember to keep your center of gravity over the middle of the kayak. Most people tip when reaching for a lure. I think it’s way more stable than a Jackson coosa or Cuda.
will this be good to fish in marshes and lakes bass fishing? I never kayaked before so I'm open to choices and I'm intrested in this one.
I would say so. Talked to a few people who have bought this as their first kayak. It’s stable. Not the fastest kayak to paddle long distances but often times the thing that scares people away from kayak fishing is tipping over so I would say so. The price is also very compelling. I’ve heard of multiple people getting them with 20% off etc at Dunham’s sports.
@@RhinoJoeOutdoors thanks for the reply 💪very helpful
Do you get any lower back pain from the seat. I am not that tall and the seat seems to be made in an XL size or something. Huge gap between the bottom of the back rest and the seat. Love the boat not impressed with the seat.
I have not had any lower back pain from the seat. I usually don’t fish as much in this kayak as my other one but I didn’t have any issues. I do always make sure to stretch before and after I fish in a kayak. I did a video on some of my favorite stretches. Stretching has really helped me a lot. ua-cam.com/video/3rlZRBmkN8s/v-deo.html
Have you tried paddling while standing?
Do you know what the moulded depression directly in front of the seat is for? How tall are you, trying to decide if that stationary foot rest would work for me.
I think maybe as a floor support. Not sure
How is it on bigger lakes and choppy water?
I haven’t had it out on a larger lake because I usually use my native slayer max propel for that. I would say it should be plenty stable. It’s more stable than my old Jackson Cuda 12 and I fished big lakes in it
What's your location nice scenery looks like good fishing area
David Manevich this is in KY. Floyd’s fork parklands in Louisville Ky. Best place I have ever had is in MO! I need to go out to Missouri something crazy!
How did it paddle? Would u say it's a fast or slow kayak?
I would say it’s probably medium/slow. Not a fast kayak for sure
@@RhinoJoeOutdoors thanks for your reply
Where did you get the moss camo color from? I can’t find it in stock anywhere. All academy has is that ugly grasshopper color
Ordered it from amazon before the COVID Kayak rush! It’s hard to find any kayak right now
I like the kayak but my target species is catfish
If you are out on lakes or slower rivers and streams it’s a great kayak! Catfish rods do fit in the double barrel rod holders also!
Do you think the seat would make this kayak top heavy in class ll or lll rapids?
I personally don’t think so but the larger issue (for me) would be how well it tracks because in some rapids you need a boat that turns really easy and this one really catches the current of the flow hits the side of the kayak.
@@RhinoJoeOutdoors we went with the Brooklyn Kayaks, a BKC TK 122 for my husband & our big dog, and the FK 285 for myself. Thanks for your help!
Im looking at the jackson bite and the outlaw what one would u say would be better
Hey Mike, I wouldn’t feel right telling you as I don’t have experience with the Vite. I did have a Jackson Cuda 12 and I’ll tell you I think the hull design of the outlaw is much more stable. It’s not as fast though. It’s a compromise.
How would you compare this Outlaw 11.5 to Pescadore Pro 12’?
The outlaw is going to probably be more stable but the Pescador pro will probably be a little bit faster on the water and more efficient paddle.
Coffee ain't no good anyhow. Thanks for the video
Thanks but I love my dirty bean water
I'm new to this i bought a outlaw do i need to plug all those holes in the floor?
Those are called scupper holes to let water off the deck. They are built like that so if you get water from rain, splash, or wherever to flow back down and away from the standing deck. Some people will use scupper plugs in the winter but I’d recommend a nice pair of dry pants or a dry suit and dry boots.
Would this work well on rivers like the Salmon or Snake in Idaho?
It depends on the level of flow and rapids. If it’s a pretty lazy river it will do just fine
Anyone have any input on the Outlaw vs Ascend 128x in terms of stability and modifications? Factoring out the QC issues Ascend has had recently...
Thanks.
The only thing I know about Ascend is..I see a lot of them for sale of Facebook market. And it make me wonder why?
@@lonewolflou2457 I went and looked at a 128X as well as a few others, brought home an Outlaw a few days ago and took it out twice so far. Couldn't be happier.
@@Fifth_Horseman I'm trying to decide between the outlaw and the Jackson bite.
@@lonewolflou2457 I like the hull shape on the Outlaw a lot more than the Bite.
I don't ask to be rude but how much do you weigh in this video I'm 194 ish and want a stable kayak that allows me to stand up and fish you seem to do just fine standing and I was just wondering how much you weigh so I can mentally adjust to figure out if I will be able to as well
Im around 205-210 in this video.
Joe, I've been looking at getting one of these and your video was helpful. Do you have an email address I can reach you at?
Sure reach out and DM me on Instagram
Is there no integrated paddle holder on the side? Or perhaps an ability to add one? Seems a bit awkward to have to stash the paddle under the bungee cover up front, plus if I got this I'd want a cooler up there anyway to stash caught fish...
It does not but you could easily attach one to the track mounted at either side of the seat with a rotogrip or similar paddle holder. I’ve kayak fished for years and never used a side paddle holder except when my kayak was in transit on my vehicle. I usually hold it in my lap ready to one handed paddle to maintain position. Hope that helps you out.
@@RhinoJoeOutdoors There is one on the left of the seat. But you cant have a rod in the inner rod holder. Find the subtle hook by the cup holder. That lines up with the back inner rod holder i dention.
Noooo, not the coffee 😆
Its the worst. Makes for a tough morning!
Jainkety. Is that a word?
In my neck of the woods it sure is