The Caprice is essentially a higher spec Statesman with more standard features such as leather seats and the LS1 came standard. Many standard features on Caprices were optional on Statesman. The optional extras on Caprices that you stated I believe weren’t available on Statesman There was a Senator for the Vy generation Commodore. The Senator is HSV version of the Calais and the Grange is the HSV version of Statesman/Caprice. Prime Minister did used both LTD and Caprices throughout history but in recent times they always used Caprices before they ceased production and currently use 7 Series. Fairlane Ghia was the rival to the Statesman and LTD was the rival to the Caprice. I personally prefer the Ba/Bf Fairlane/LTD to the Wk/Wl Statesman/Caprice but both are awesome cars and the Wk/Wl Grange are imo the most underrated and best looking HSV’s next to the Manta Hopefully a few will find these facts interesting and I apologise if any of these are incorrect but I believe they should be right
Gonna have to disagree and say a S3 VS grange is the best of the best with a 185i roller, with the WK/WL close in second. The WL grange with the ls2 would be my pick if I couldn’t get the VS.
Great review! Keep the content coming! This will be a long comment as I try to explain the differences and similarities of the Statesman and Caprice. I worked at Holden for a few years and owned a few statesman's and Caprices. Similarities, both had either the 3.8 litre engines or the 5.7 LS1 V8. Both had the 4L60e Auto, both had 3 window multi-funtion trip computers, both had electric tilt and height adjustable front seats, both had adjustable front seat belt heights and both had a 10 speaker sound system with a 6 stack in dash CD player and reverse parking sensors. Options for the Statesman were leather seats, premium blaupunkt audio, level ride suspension, sunroof and turn by turn DVD based sat nav. The Caprice had most of the options of the Statesman fitted standard and the standard issue engine was the LS1 V8. The only options on the Caprice over the Statesman was a sunroof and sat nav. The DVD player system in the rear seats of the Caprice was standard if you optioned the V8. Other standard inclusions of the Caprice was the memory power front seats, auto dipping passenger side mirror when reverse was selected, special shadow tone headlights and fog lights, FE1.5 luxury sports tuned suspension with 17 inch alloys. Hope this explains it and helps you out mate.
Great review of the Statesman Caprice, Ross. I like the sound of the V8, can’t beat that sound. Very clean car. It’s once again a credit to the owner to keep it this tidy and original. Well done. Keep it up.
I have 05 WL statesman, main things I see different is: steering wheel, mirror, headrest tv, roof controls and the major one is the rear seats. The rear seats hug you where my statesman is just a regular back seat
I had the very last of the wl caprice it had the 6ltr from the ve in it still to this day i think about what an awesome driving car that was,great review once again.
Thank you for reviewing the Holden Caprice. I am in the United States and thank you for sharing the Australian auto industry. I will try explain the difference. The difference between the Holden Caprice and Statesman is like things were in the United States like the Oldsmobile 98 and 88 and the Buick Park Avenue and LeSabre. One has more features( Olds 98 and Park Avenue) and luxury options and the other has a little less( Olds 88 and LeSabre).
Loved this review, next time ur down Melbourne or Geelong way I’ve got a completely stock WH Caprice in near pristine condition. It’s been in my family since 01’ when it came out and it’s my weekender. If ur ever wanting another wh on the channel feel free to get in contact. All the best man
Statesman was made for a while before later in it's life was dropped for the Caprice. It was made especially to avoid the luxury car tax, for vehicles upto $55,000. The Grange was made by HSV.
What most people dont realise with those WK & WL statos and caprices is that they have some of the lowest drag coefficients of any Holden ever made - they'd absolutely weapons on a long enough road with the right driveline 💪
0.28 drag coefficient for WK/WL - modify them the same as any other LS platform I.e. heads/cam/exhaust with some 3.7/3.9 diff gears and they hammer the same as any other VX-VZ
It's funny I nearly went for one of these over the FG Barra & the only reason I chose the FG is because it was 5yrs newer FG 2011 & the Caprice was 2006 also it had much lower ks & the reliability of the Barra engine they just go forever,but I've always loved the Statesman & Caprice since I was a kid & this one just proves why they're a great car,excellent vid Johnny mate cheers.
@@Lexe-is5nv Yes mate I can't disagree with you,but I will say one thing in 6yrs I haven't had one single problem except a flat battery with the Falcon so it has definitely lived up to its claim as being reliable.
@@pete508 I own three 3 b series, two of them v8's. Even though I know Holden make a much more reliable v8, especially compared to Ford's 3 valve Triton. Just google that engine and you wouldn't go near it with a barge pole. But I did, (in my G220) and so far, so good. It does have timing chain slip at first start up ( very common with the 3 valve) I guess I like to be different, hence my v8's. I only bought my inline 2008 BF II Fairmont because it was from a family member, and it was even optioned with the six speed. But it's up for sale, and only after 6 months I know the Barra 190 is not for me. Its like new, there is nothing wrong with it, but I prefer to Drive my G220 4 speed, for its quiet effotless power, and unmatched ride. And don't get me started on my 2005 whipple s/c BA GT, with every factory option and only 70,000 km. In essence, I own a soon to be sold Barra 190 ZF and it was found wanting
The Caprice was exported from Australia to the Arab Gulf countries only. I am from Saudi Arabia and own a 2006 Caprice, the same car in your show. I think the difference between the Caprice (Chevrolet) and the Statesman (holden) is the location of the steering wheel. My car has the steering wheel on the left. beautiful car i love it 👌
Fun fact, the current sitting Australian PM used 2 identical WK's (modified with bullet proof glass and reinforced doors) for over a decade until going with BMW 5-series in approx 2015 I think.
Hey mate just stumbled across this old one of yours and Im after some advice. I’m selling my FG XR6T for a couple projects. I’m chasing a cheaper v8 car. I’m stuck between a WK/WL V8, Manual crewman ss, and 6l VE Calais SS. Also had my eye on the v8 LTD’s and fairlanes. Want a good combo of sound, acceleration, fun and comfort. Any recommendations based on your drives with em all? Cheers man
@@mattmurphy5419 Here are 2: First one with stock motor with full tri Y exhaust, tune and OTR and is 232rwkw or 310rwhp (ua-cam.com/video/UulfZdQZ_U4/v-deo.html). Second one has a cam also and is 307rwkw or 410rwhp (ua-cam.com/video/bJ86FCAALQI/v-deo.html)... Long tube 4 to 1 headers would have given more power in that VT
@@ozwasp I’m no expert mate I could be wrong. Our local shops get 350hp tops ls1 with cam, otr, exhaust and tune. They do good business, it’s safe and not bad power. People come back coz their cars don’t blow up. I
That was my first car (The Caprice Royal version), I hated how long it was. It might not be obvious in the video, but this car is a bit longer than a GMC Yukon which makes it the best car for long road trips but not very good in the city
I note this has the aftermarket 'Mars' headlights with LED running lights. The OEM cases disintegrated due to age and heat exposure so I bought a pair of these too. Problem is the low beam horizon is not level and doesnt comply with ADRs. Has anyone had a similar issue with theirs?
Caprice was the flagship with Leather V8 Navigation stacker CD everything , Statesman was velour interior V6 or V6 L76 Supercharged .V8 was an optional engine at extra cost
I prefer the Fairlane G220 or G8, much rarer, yes the engine does have its problems, but the low down torque is way better than Ls1. I took the gamble and am happy I did
The main difference between the caprice and statesman is just the different luxury like it goes commodores then statesman then the caprice so the caprice is a bit more up market then the statesman as well as the caprice like my mates which is a 2006 or something along those lines and he has a LS2 6.0L in it
@user-ro1ou4xu4q yeah I believe the statesman doesn't have the rear speakers up in the headlining as well as those mirrors which also leads me saying it doesn't have the screens the the back of the head rest as most of the statesmans have more material seats and interior then leather and the caprice has a little more leg room at the back unless you have a taller person like my mate that has to have the seat back of course
Ugh, I love Ross's content but I have had enough of the groupthink that is connected to this channel. Yes, EVs are not perfect but there are plenty of car loving folks who accept that our love of fuel burning vehicles will be a hobby and there will be better ways to get around soon. Large SUV EVs with massive batteries make no sense efficiency wise, but when have you guys ever criticised a RAM or an F 150? Past the first gen, we will have cleaner energy production and bountiful, cheap electricity. But you gotta walk before you run. Remember the Benz cars running around with 4km per hour speed limits circa 1900? That's where we are at. And you dudes are the ones extolling horses. Cheerio Luddites.
The Caprice is essentially a higher spec Statesman with more standard features such as leather seats and the LS1 came standard. Many standard features on Caprices were optional on Statesman. The optional extras on Caprices that you stated I believe weren’t available on Statesman
There was a Senator for the Vy generation Commodore. The Senator is HSV version of the Calais and the Grange is the HSV version of Statesman/Caprice.
Prime Minister did used both LTD and Caprices throughout history but in recent times they always used Caprices before they ceased production and currently use 7 Series.
Fairlane Ghia was the rival to the Statesman and LTD was the rival to the Caprice. I personally prefer the Ba/Bf Fairlane/LTD to the Wk/Wl Statesman/Caprice but both are awesome cars and the Wk/Wl Grange are imo the most underrated and best looking HSV’s next to the Manta
Hopefully a few will find these facts interesting and I apologise if any of these are incorrect but I believe they should be right
appreciate all that mate! Got some great knowledge
Gonna have to disagree and say a S3 VS grange is the best of the best with a 185i roller, with the WK/WL close in second. The WL grange with the ls2 would be my pick if I couldn’t get the VS.
Pretty much summed up everything I was going to say. My brother has a pretty sad one at the moment in QLD with over 300,000 k’s
Statesman is the Belmont, Caprice is the Kingswood, Grange is the Premier of this range
🙏 appreciate it
@@RossReviewsau the Caprice is the performance luxury, the Stato is the luxury
@@Ben-ed4wxI have one and I got the same headlights today 😊
Grange is the GTS and Caprice is the Premier!!!!!
@@knifethrower9733 yes you could look at it that way, poor old Belmont gets canned again 😅
Love the old Statesman's and Caprice..best value for money when it comes to owning a fairly modern V8.
Ross the Boss crew checking in. This one’s a banger
Appreciate you brother
Great review! Keep the content coming! This will be a long comment as I try to explain the differences and similarities of the Statesman and Caprice. I worked at Holden for a few years and owned a few statesman's and Caprices.
Similarities, both had either the 3.8 litre engines or the 5.7 LS1 V8. Both had the 4L60e Auto, both had 3 window multi-funtion trip computers, both had electric tilt and height adjustable front seats, both had adjustable front seat belt heights and both had a 10 speaker sound system with a 6 stack in dash CD player and reverse parking sensors. Options for the Statesman were leather seats, premium blaupunkt audio, level ride suspension, sunroof and turn by turn DVD based sat nav. The Caprice had most of the options of the Statesman fitted standard and the standard issue engine was the LS1 V8. The only options on the Caprice over the Statesman was a sunroof and sat nav. The DVD player system in the rear seats of the Caprice was standard if you optioned the V8. Other standard inclusions of the Caprice was the memory power front seats, auto dipping passenger side mirror when reverse was selected, special shadow tone headlights and fog lights, FE1.5 luxury sports tuned suspension with 17 inch alloys.
Hope this explains it and helps you out mate.
I've always preferred this body shape of Statesman/Caprice over the WH body shape... These cars will just chew up kilometres reliably...
Great video 👍
Right on glad you enjoyed it mate
Great review of the Statesman Caprice, Ross. I like the sound of the V8, can’t beat that sound. Very clean car. It’s once again a credit to the owner to keep it this tidy and original. Well done. Keep it up.
Thanks Peter! Glad you enjoyed it
I have 05 WL statesman, main things I see different is: steering wheel, mirror, headrest tv, roof controls and the major one is the rear seats. The rear seats hug you where my statesman is just a regular back seat
So just a little less luxurious in the stato eh
I had the very last of the wl caprice it had the 6ltr from the ve in it still to this day i think about what an awesome driving car that was,great review once again.
Thanks for sharing! Glad you enjoyed
I've got a 6lt Wl Caprice and love it, a lot different then the 5.7
Im gunna deck my statesman out with all the caprice goods plus more! The space in these are insane good!
Have the 2004 WK with liquid injection lpg. Get 600ks a tank of gas. Still looks good too.
Best sounding car so far.
Awesome 😎 video Ross Reviews. Please 🙏 bring out the AU XR6 VCT very soon please.
Coming soon!
outstanding JORDAN
Thank you for reviewing the Holden Caprice. I am in the United States and thank you for sharing the Australian auto industry. I will try explain the difference. The difference between the Holden Caprice and Statesman is like things were in the United States like the Oldsmobile 98 and 88 and the Buick Park Avenue and LeSabre. One has more features( Olds 98 and Park Avenue) and luxury options and the other has a little less( Olds 88 and LeSabre).
Our pleasure! Thanks for sharing that info! Plenty more Australian car reviews on the way👏
Loved this review, next time ur down Melbourne or Geelong way I’ve got a completely stock WH Caprice in near pristine condition. It’s been in my family since 01’ when it came out and it’s my weekender. If ur ever wanting another wh on the channel feel free to get in contact. All the best man
Sounds good! Appreciate it mate
What exhaust system in on there??? holy moly.
Statesman was made for a while before later in it's life was dropped for the Caprice. It was made especially to avoid the luxury car tax, for vehicles upto $55,000. The Grange was made by HSV.
Loving the LEDs on this thing / real nice touch
What most people dont realise with those WK & WL statos and caprices is that they have some of the lowest drag coefficients of any Holden ever made - they'd absolutely weapons on a long enough road with the right driveline 💪
Oh yeh! Crossing the country like no other.. (maybe an Au)
Never heard that one. The VN was something like .30cD though
@@Low760 VN Commodore 0.34 vs WK statesman 0.30
VF was 0.30 also.. still slightly short of the AU though which was 0.295
@@James-zj3ud source for that? The VN is a lot narrower and smoother than both cars.
0.28 drag coefficient for WK/WL - modify them the same as any other LS platform I.e. heads/cam/exhaust with some 3.7/3.9 diff gears and they hammer the same as any other VX-VZ
Own one myself. Only 128k on the clock. Love it 😊
Good stuff 🫡
It's funny I nearly went for one of these over the FG Barra & the only reason I chose the FG is because it was 5yrs newer FG 2011 & the Caprice was 2006 also it had much lower ks & the reliability of the Barra engine they just go forever,but I've always loved the Statesman & Caprice since I was a kid & this one just proves why they're a great car,excellent vid Johnny mate cheers.
Shoulda went the Caprice, or even a Statesman over a dime a dozen Barra
@@Lexe-is5nv Yes mate I can't disagree with you,but I will say one thing in 6yrs I haven't had one single problem except a flat battery with the Falcon so it has definitely lived up to its claim as being reliable.
@@pete508 I own three 3 b series, two of them v8's. Even though I know Holden make a much more reliable v8, especially compared to Ford's 3 valve Triton. Just google that engine and you wouldn't go near it with a barge pole. But I did, (in my G220) and so far, so good. It does have timing chain slip at first start up ( very common with the 3 valve) I guess I like to be different, hence my v8's. I only bought my inline 2008 BF II Fairmont because it was from a family member, and it was even optioned with the six speed. But it's up for sale, and only after 6 months I know the Barra 190 is not for me. Its like new, there is nothing wrong with it, but I prefer to Drive my G220 4 speed, for its quiet effotless power, and unmatched ride. And don't get me started on my 2005 whipple s/c BA GT, with every factory option and only 70,000 km. In essence, I own a soon to be sold Barra 190 ZF and it was found wanting
Some more info on the cars exhausts and setups in your videos would be good
Great video mate 👍 take care. 👍
Thanks, you too!
I'll be buying a WH soon love em
Good stuff!
uGGGly
Let’s have more caprice’s on the channel
👌🇦🇺
The Caprice was exported from Australia to the Arab Gulf countries only. I am from Saudi Arabia and own a 2006 Caprice, the same car in your show. I think the difference between the Caprice (Chevrolet) and the Statesman (holden) is the location of the steering wheel. My car has the steering wheel on the left. beautiful car i love it 👌
The statesman has that wood grain type finish to it
Appreciate the comment
Such a nice area to video such a luxurious vehicle ,tip top review
Thanks a ton
@@RossReviewsau Back end of 2023 i fully expect subs to be well over 100K ,no 50/0 no ask the audience no phone a friend LOCK IT IN
i love my caprice
🇦🇺💪
Fun fact, the current sitting Australian PM used 2 identical WK's (modified with bullet proof glass and reinforced doors) for over a decade until going with BMW 5-series in approx 2015 I think.
very cool.. cheers for the info
holden wk caprice what a beast of a thing lovely boat on wheels Aussie🇦🇺
amen sailor
Hey mate just stumbled across this old one of yours and Im after some advice. I’m selling my FG XR6T for a couple projects.
I’m chasing a cheaper v8 car.
I’m stuck between a WK/WL V8, Manual crewman ss, and 6l VE Calais SS.
Also had my eye on the v8 LTD’s and fairlanes.
Want a good combo of sound, acceleration, fun and comfort.
Any recommendations based on your drives with em all?
Cheers man
You can usually get around 330rwhp (420hp at the motor) with a full exhaust, OTR and tune in the stock LS1
No way, thats how much a l77 makes with those mods
@@memesandspices VY Clubby was putting out 285kw or around 300rwhp and with long tube headers, OTR and mafless tune you can get an extra 30hp
With a cam 350 max
@@mattmurphy5419 Here are 2: First one with stock motor with full tri Y exhaust, tune and OTR and is 232rwkw or 310rwhp (ua-cam.com/video/UulfZdQZ_U4/v-deo.html). Second one has a cam also and is 307rwkw or 410rwhp (ua-cam.com/video/bJ86FCAALQI/v-deo.html)... Long tube 4 to 1 headers would have given more power in that VT
@@ozwasp I’m no expert mate I could be wrong. Our local shops get 350hp tops ls1 with cam, otr, exhaust and tune. They do good business, it’s safe and not bad power. People come back coz their cars don’t blow up. I
That was my first car (The Caprice Royal version), I hated how long it was.
It might not be obvious in the video, but this car is a bit longer than a GMC Yukon which makes it the best car for long road trips but not very good in the city
Theres been a Senator in the HSV lineup since 1992 which was based on a VP commodore and every model commodore since then has had a HSV Senator
Really 😅 my bad not sure why I thought there wasn’t a senator for this model
I note this has the aftermarket 'Mars' headlights with LED running lights. The OEM cases disintegrated due to age and heat exposure so I bought a pair of these too. Problem is the low beam horizon is not level and doesnt comply with ADRs.
Has anyone had a similar issue with theirs?
The Senator was released after the Caprice came out, 1990 vs 1992. I think the Senator started in the Vp!?
Senator was around since 1992 on the VP Commodore from hsv fwiw.
Damn I’m a look them up!
Caprice was the flagship with Leather V8 Navigation stacker CD everything , Statesman was velour interior V6 or V6 L76 Supercharged .V8 was an optional engine at extra cost
*L67
Appreciate the info!
damn, it not a Ross review without a 0-100
Sadly couldn’t find a safe spot
Please from where you bought head lights
HEY ROSS HAVE YOU DONE ANY TOYOTA 79 DUAL CAB & TOYOTA 79 SINGLE CAB UTE REVIEW
i have caprice 2006 LTZ
I prefer the Fairlane G220 or G8, much rarer, yes the engine does have its problems, but the low down torque is way better than Ls1. I took the gamble and am happy I did
Mate the senator was there back than based on a Calais. The statesman is a Cadillac the caprice is a Cadillac V with just a little more fruit
Really! I’m keen to see that then
I'd love to know what type of exhaust is on that caprice can anyone tell me it's just what I'm after
It's a right hand drive! Can you gather them for me to target east Africa!
haha
@@RossReviewsau why laugh?
What colour is that?
What rims are those?
How reliable are these ? And how's the 4 speed
If looked after they go forever
@RossReviewsau Hey just got one ! I'm super happy with it man does it look mean and muscular
Those aftermarket led running light headlights are rubbish, the low beam horizon is not horizontal and they aren't adjustable.
Tuff statesman build quality built with spanners not chop sticks am I right mate
😂😂😂😂
Be hard to do a 0 to 100 in Qld I would say
Was a nightmare
I think the caprice is better looking than the ford Ltd s
Once the wl and m came out I would agree but before then with the wh the ltd was much better looking in my opinion
@@Joker-my9oi agreed
I can see that
Na, LTD and fairlane, all the way, and fords BTR 4 speed craps on holden's changing for no good reason 4 speeds
The main difference between the caprice and statesman is just the different luxury like it goes commodores then statesman then the caprice so the caprice is a bit more up market then the statesman as well as the caprice like my mates which is a 2006 or something along those lines and he has a LS2 6.0L in it
yeah but is there any different in the Infotainment system or the speakers or the seats or any extra features you get in a caprice over a statesman
@user-ro1ou4xu4q yeah I believe the statesman doesn't have the rear speakers up in the headlining as well as those mirrors which also leads me saying it doesn't have the screens the the back of the head rest as most of the statesmans have more material seats and interior then leather and the caprice has a little more leg room at the back unless you have a taller person like my mate that has to have the seat back of course
@@Lotus-S70 i believe the caprice had a slightly better tune and came standard with a touch more power
That would have been a proper Impsla SS or Chevy Caprice.
amen
This sounds tough 💪🏼 caprices are fat.
Love the noise
caprice and ltd should be quiet as possible
Grange was the best 👌
🇦🇺👌👌👌
Caprice was better and with more stuff. Top - tier.
But more luxury eh
come review my caprice
Shoot me a message
I can confirm they don't fit in a standard garage. Hence never got to buy one
They are massive!
My VR Caprice fit after I put the towbar through the plaster on the rear wall!!
There no wider, so I see no reason why they wont fit in a standard garage
@@Lexe-is5nv It is a long wheel base car.
The cars length is the issue with some garages!
@@AdamSWL your house in not big enough if it cant accommodate 300mm
Rare?
Ugh, I love Ross's content but I have had enough of the groupthink that is connected to this channel. Yes, EVs are not perfect but there are plenty of car loving folks who accept that our love of fuel burning vehicles will be a hobby and there will be better ways to get around soon. Large SUV EVs with massive batteries make no sense efficiency wise, but when have you guys ever criticised a RAM or an F 150? Past the first gen, we will have cleaner energy production and bountiful, cheap electricity. But you gotta walk before you run. Remember the Benz cars running around with 4km per hour speed limits circa 1900? That's where we are at. And you dudes are the ones extolling horses. Cheerio Luddites.
I prefer the WH over the WK.But each to their own.
Still a awesome Boat.....Wait I meant to say "Car" haha
Love a good Aussie boat 😎🇦🇺