For those on a budget - Horn Relocation - Dummy Horn - OBD Port Lock - Kill Switch - BCM Locking - Pedal Locking Plate - GPS Tracker For those with $$ on top of the above, IGLA immobiliser or even better the alarm package is the ultimate protection for these vehicles
@brettstuchbery1672 Yep asking for trouble parking it in public for even 5 minutes unattended these days as the factory security cannot be relied on anymore 😔
@@marcuspitts2482 Yeah but bail and community service coupled with "had a hard life" sympathy sentences (the wet lettuce leaf slap) have become the norm in our court system. That scumbag in Melbourne that wheeled a dead girls body around in old old fridge before chucking her on the tip gets bail. WTF??? What hope has a car thief got of being jailed? 2/5 of bugger all for certain and they know it!
Its not the cops fault, Its the magistrates that keep putting these dogs out on bail. Its the Mps allowing these young adults to be tried as kids. This needs to stop
Let me paint ya a picture. It is not about magistrates and MPs being soft..... Approximately 30,000 to 35,000 people are in jail in Australia.... every day of the year..... which at a cost of $300 each a day... works out to be.... $9 million to $10.5 million a day.... or $3,276,000,000 to $3,822,000,000 ...3.276 billion to 3.82 billion a year. $300 per day to keep a person in jail is a low-figure..If I recall correctly, the IPA estimated $405 per day for an adult and up to $800 a day for a juvenile. Let's put this into perspective with a car thief stealing a $90,000 vehicle.... that is likely covered by insurance. If the courts were to sentence this car thief to a mandatory 7 years with no parole. Using $300 a day x 364 days a year x 7 years..... $764, 400. That is what it will cost to keep 1 car thief in jail for 7 years.... over a $90,000 vehicle covered by insurance. It would be cheaper to go out and buy the car thief a brand new $160,000 Range Rover and pay its running costs for the next 7 years... on the condition he agrees not to steal any more cars. Even if it cost $20, 000 a year for insurance, petrol and servicing....$300,000...... the Public would be still $464, 400 better off than putting said thief in jail for 7 years. So where do we draw the line here between a punishment to fit the crime and the best value for the tax payer dollar? There are approximately 20 million individual tax payers without businesses... Assuming those 20 million are footing the current $3.8 billion prison bill with no offsets.... each tax payer might be paying $191 a year just to keep the current numbers in jail.... yet people want longer sentences and to jail more people? What deterrent is going to be cost effective and work.... perhaps we could cut their cocks off and leave them with a stump..... that would certainly make the males think twice about stealing a car.
In Victoria Dan raised the age where kids can't be held responsible for major crimes. Next minute all these kids got recruited by criminal gangs. Hands up if think that wasn't the plan all along.
As much as I hate this useless lass that we have now I do have to say Dan most definitely didn't help the crime rate situation in Victoria, that's for sure.
🇦🇺😎👍My mate interrupted a burglar at 11 pm at his home . The long and the short of it is the had a fist fight with the burglar , the police took him away only to return and take my mates gun licence and a safe full of firearms. The charge , excessive force . The guy had scratches and a few bruises. 12 months on still no guns returned still no court case. For goodness sake he was a burglar !
Australia is way too soft on youth crime. I actually now lock my car when driving and will use a club lock. A couple of times recently I've gone to the shops to come back with people hanging around it and looking in the windows etc only to flee when they see my arrive.
There’s also the “Kia Boys” who go after Kias and Hyundais mostly for joyrides and using them to commit other crimes. They are so easy to steal a 10 year old could easily do it😮 I also hear the same thing is going on in the UK with Range Rovers. Insurance companies will not even cover them in many cases. The “soft on crime pandemic” is a big problem in the US as well.
Piggy back the OG obd hide of where they won't find it , put fake in factory spot & wire fake to horn , I think 2 or 3 pins , so when they go to use the OBD it Fry's it !
@@RossReviewsau In 2015, I was sitting in gridlocked traffic (Friday morning rush hour). Quicker than I could react, a bicyclist opened my unlocked passenger door and swiped my backpack sitting on the seat - containing a corporate laptop / confidential documents / personal effects. I jumped out and gave chase - STOPPED they cyclist but received a shattered (not just broken - SHATTERED) leg for my efforts. Police came to visit me in hospital. NEVER asked a single question (not one!!!) just told me I'd assaulted the cyclist and I would be charged with CRIMINAL ASSAULT unless I signed a "No Police Action Statement" for the theft of my backpack. If I ever see one of the black costumed SWOT team (Space Wasting Oxygen Thieves) in a severe state of distress, I will NOT assist. I will NOT call for help. I will NOT stop. I'll smile, as I remember the parting words of the police that came to visit me in hospital.
see it from the police's perspective. What's the point doing all the hard work of arresting a car thief and then taking the scumbag to court for the magistrate to give them a slap on the wrist. Next thing the police are arresting them for the same crime for them again to get a slap on the wrist. On top of that the police are under staff. In regards to car modifications. If the modifications are not ADR compliant or risk the safety of the general public, then they too are a real criminal. Nobody should get a say on what crime they are allowed or not allowed to do.
@@tomnewham1269 spot on. It's the courts and the government that lacks the backbone to do something. One day we will get sick of this and these young offenders will start disappearing......
As they say; rob a bank of $60,000, and everyone up to the federal police will hunt you down nationwide. But steal someone’s $60,000 car and destroy it? Slap on the wrist and get told not to be a naughty boy again.
I can guarantee your government and the cops won't do a thing, they want them off the roads. Same here in NZ. Do everything you can to protect our precious Holdens and HSV's
I would not be surprised if the owners end up being charged for defending his/her property in the situation where the owner ends up dealing with the problem themselves
such a stupid state of affairs when thats the reality. i keep a machete next to my bed incase of break ins or car theft, god forbit i protect my home, id be the bad guy for making sure no one hurts my family. putrid government we live under.
@@TonySopranosBurner Exactly. The thieves end up having more bloody rights than the person trying to protect their family and property. It’s absolutely disgusting, and they keep doing it and keep getting off with a slap on the wrist. Utterly ridiculous.
You could have your VF stolen and know exactly where it is and the police will finally turn up for details just as it gets shipped off to god knows where If they find you doing 70 in a 60 zone they'll speed up to Mach 1 billion to give out the fine And that my firends is policing in Australia
Ross! Haven't even watched the whole video but thank you for bringing this to the attention of the viewers - I personally ended up selling my VF II SSV Redline (the one you reviewed 2yrs ago!) which I loved and had for 7 years because of this issue.. I had the BCM locked which helped because it did prevent it from being stolen from a pub but after that was too paranoid to have it as a daily...
@@RossReviewsauI know...was a hard decision but glad I was able to enjoy it for that long On a separate note - when your in Melbourne again and want to review what I have now (2020 X3 M40i - B58 / 8 speed ZF) it's also really fun!
We just bought our second vf, a clubsport and we have a ss with walkinshaw performance package. We have worked so hard to finally buy our dream cars and now can't enjoy them. I'm terrified to take it out. I've driven it 5 times in the 2 months I've owned it. My f@%Ken dream car! I work my ass off, to pay my way. And this is heart breaking
There is a wire for the horn that runs under front passenger wheel arch. This is what they will disconnect fiirst bc the alarm system is wited to the horn so only lights will flash when door is opened. Consider changing wire harness positioning.
And also add another horn somewhere under the chassis somewhere tap off that wire closer to the engine bay so when they cut the horn the new horn will still work
My 2009 FPV has climbed to $1800 in insurance and thats for driving 3 days a week. And the reason why the government wont do anything about it cause there is no revenue to be made locking these hoods up.
@@RossReviewsau Ross - I Done something to my LSA to make it impossible to steal. Dont want to mention it here to give these arseholes a leg up. Its doable but unfortuantely necesary these days.
Sadly we have absolutely useless government bodies that are so weak and let these offenders get away with next to no penalties. The parents should also be held accountable for not having proper control of their children.
You work for 42yrs to have $2m in your retirement, Meanwhile some people are putting just $20k in a meme coin for just few months and now they are multi millionaires. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life
Well explain thank you for bringing up this video Financial education is indeed required for more than 80% of the society in the country as very few are literate on the subject. The value of the US🇺🇸dollar is declining due to inflation, but it is increasing in comparison to other currencies and commodities such as gold and real estate. I'm worried that rising inflation will cause my 550k in my retirement funds to lose value, But with the help of Mrs Maria I hit 220k this week from my investment of 45k, I am truly grateful for all the knowledge and nuggets you have given me over the past few months.
We have been dealing with this for years in the U.K. Can’t even get ANY insurance if you park your motorcycle on the street in London . Just straight won’t insure you. It’s killed the bike industry. And the old school fords can’t be left anywhere
It is not necessarily thr boys and girls in blue fault with the repeat offenders. It more the case the legal system and magistrates whi grant bail. The cops arrest them and it is some weak magistrate who grants bail and gives a slap on the wrist
I remove the ignition fuse in my 2017 redline just incase when I'm at dinner even with all the anti thefts devices I have installed including the IGLA system and Track My Ride GPS. A tow truck can simpy take it away but I could track them if they don't find my GPS which is hard wired.
I've been getting some dirty looks from other motorists thinking I'm probably in a stolen car. Asians aren't normally driving VF GTS I guess. Got to the point of me having to fit IGLA immobiliser,relocated horn,BCM locking and a hidden magnetic kill switch. Plus the bloody car is parked behind bollards full of concrete. My Mrs want it gone because she's worried some slime bag will try to rob our house for it. Sad state of affairs. Not to mention my insurance have gone up heaps too.
this reminds me when Subaru WRX's were the hot car to steal. An owner in Sydney nearly got car jacked and after that he sold the car for the same reason as your thinking of selling your car. Nobody should feel uncomfortable driving their own vehicle but I can understand why people would give in as their family's safety comes first.
September in the car park at work I had attempted theft of my vf SSV. They cut through the front inner guards, got into the car but were spooked by a passer by and drove off. The day before I had it washed polished and clay barred. Looked like it just came off the line I was so angry and upset. Now I use a pro lock on the steering wheel. Had to put a claim in because damage to front and drivers door handle. I stress now all the time. You work hard to pay and afford what you own and love, it’s totally destroyed.
I used to have a vf ssv redline. One of the last ones made. Glad I sold it because I would be too scared to drive to these days! Such a shame because they really are fantastic cars
@ I don’t blame you mate! I have a WH now (did a video with Ross a month or so ago. Red one on his channel) and I think I’ll get a alarm fitted into mine sooner rather than later to be safe
Even putting them up for sale, inviting a potential thief to your home, even if you meet up at a petrol station, they could get someone different to follow you home.
Owners should get alarms isolated from the main system, use a tracking device, use a faraday pouch for the key and the spare key as well. Buy a pedal locking devices
I was at deposit stage on a really nice VF ute and have delayed my decision. Great cars but too risky to buy something that can be stolen so easily and regularly.
I worked security for 20 years and generally if someone wants in, they're generally getting in and it costs a lot to fix and replace things, sometimes you just gotta improvise at your inconvenience. I know this would be a pain in the arse thing to do, but if you're a weekend driver with your expensive car and worried about it. Maybe consider things like jacking your own car up and removing two wheels, and put the wheel nuts in different location to the wheels. I'm sure someone can with good car knowledge can think of something else like disconnecting an important cable or remove some of those fuse things that do lights and other electronics....How about a PIR camera that's direct to your phone looking at your car. You could think about ways to secure/harden your garage door the good car sits behind.
I work as a mechanic and just the other week one of the guys VF SS was stolen out of the car park at smoko, was in and out in 5 mins. A guy who also works in the industry told me its easier to steal a car with a start/stop button then a car with an actual key, there's also an app you can get which helps you steal cars as well. The obd port is the main way they do it as well.
Many VF owners are adding a bypass wiring to get to the horn rather from the guard. The obvious GPS tracker and removing fuel pump and starter relay will help.
Isolate the fuel pump circuit. Run another wiring harness for the horn and even another horn. Reposition the OBD connector or even fit a fake one after its been repositioned. It really sucks!
Can't believe these devices are on eBay. Should stamp this out i only drive my vf ss on weekends don't park in shopping centres anymore this is a real shame should not be happening thanks for this video
Back in the day, I had an 1977 LX Torana SLR5000. To say I was paranoid that someone would steal it was an under statement. Almost any Holden Key would open it and start it. I wired the positive of the ignition coil to a toggle switch, then to ground. Hid the switch under the seat. Also had a battery isolation bolt. and another method that I'm not going to give away. Mongoose alarm with tilt sensor on backup battery helped. If the engine won't start, then it's reasonably safe.
Well said. That last comment on insurance. Yeah. I have a toy that's costs more than 10% of its worth in insurance and it may get 500km a year. More worried about more exhaust than preventing theft
A Prolock steering wheel lock for AUD 80 will make it a bit harder, they'll need an angle grinder to remove it, but at-least you'll hear the noise at night if they are trying.
Gps tracker with ignition or fuel cut, if i take my car out, its never out of my sight, going shops or anything like that i take the daily. Also the insurance is ridiculous, im up to $3700 a year right now🤦🏼♂️
Speaking of coming down hard on holden owners, I legit got a defect for pinstriped taillights on my vy calais yesterday! Absolutely pathetic they couldn't pick on anything on the car but that. They'd been on the car over a year and never had an issue till yesterday 🙄
I was paying 3k a year for insurance on my toyota 86 in Parramatta moved up to ballina shire i now pay 1500. Its becoming impossible to live in a city and be a car enthusiast!
Thieves seem to be targeting VF's with push button start the most as these can be unlocked with a device they buy off the internet... Thanks for helping raise awareness about this issue 👍 Edit: @2:10 Probably should blur this section out
Why blur it out (@2:10) thieving c***s already know what equipment they need to steal cars & how to obtain said equipment & if they're just starting their career in crime the information is probably just a Google search or group chat question away, so blurring it out won't make any difference. Putting pics of the devices out there for general knowledge may be of some benefit. I wouldn't have the faintest idea what is required to steal a VF Commodore as I'm not a thief, nevertheless if I had an idea of what the equipment required to steal one looked like and I saw someone else in possession of that equipment then I would be looking at that person rather suspiciously.
Guy installing a security system at my house said one problem is if they can't steal it, they'll trash it. Kick in the panels and smash windows. So the car is a write-off anyway..
Yet we all still vote for the two same parties expecting change when even when we vote for independent and minority parties they filter back to the two main mirrored systems. Funding is capped for small parties yet the big two use your taxes to fund their revenue agendas.
Mine is a VE SS, always wondered how they steal these things, watched a similar video yesterday which went into a bit more detail about the method, can't believe Holden made the horn wire so accessible. They recommended a relocated horn, and an immobiliser with a pin pad. $3000. 😬 Insurance is ridiculous.
Anyone who has an expensive hsv or any car like that should definitely invest in bollards in the garage/ driveway, along with air tags, it'll cost a bit but if you care about your car enough you'll go to the lengths to keep it safe
have to admit I don't see many HSV out in the wild anymore - except my Grange which now attracts some attention, but thankfully from older people so I don't think they'd be on the radar for youngsters
If it's that prevalent couldn't some vf owners get together and accidentally leave cars in non camera or people areas........ Who knows what accidents could happen to someone doing dangerous crimes like car theft 🤷♂️
The current police minister doesn’t want to address the bigger issues. He’s too busy targeting legal firearms owners with unnecessary laws. It’s a case of look over here not there for political brownie points. I like to think Australians are smarter than that.
Another thing that needs to be noted is that currently there is a push to raise the age that someone can be found guilty of a crime. That may be raised up to 14 years of age soon. States vary but they are all making a push to raise this.
Everyone watching make sure you let anyone you know with a Commodore (Friends, family, work colleges etc) to take extra security measures, including getting them to watch this video.
Its the same in the UK with Range Rovers that are now uninsurable & in the US with dodge Hellcats & multiple keyless entry cars including GM'S & a lot more stolen than in Australia so it's worldwide, not just locally⁉️ Installing a simple hidden kill switch might help but wont stop a tow truck snatching your car in a car park❓️
I've got everything to protect mine short of a trunk monkey. And despite all that I won't park it in a shopping centre for 10 mins without fitting an alarmed club lock.
I think I'm going to have to go down the path of ALL of the deterrents as even though my VF looks fairly standard as you know it definitely isn't and would break my heart if it was stolen and thrashed/destroyed....
i just insured two cars Ross and it totalled $2600 annually, so the quick math is $10,000 cost ins in 4 years i think ill have to go and have a cold shower now
No different to when I was young..all commodores were vulnerable. Everyone fitted alarms like Mongoose, Piranha etc. Those my age know what I mean..nothing new except maybe overseas export. Just do your best and have adequate insurance.
It’s sad times right now. I’m glad we didn’t get a VF/Gen-F and instead opted for an FG X. Sure, it’s still at risk of being stolen, but I’m a little more at ease given it’s still has an ignition barrel. Either way, I’m driving it far less and if I do, it’s away from the city or anywhere that has a less than stellar reputation. If I catch them trying to steal my car (or anyone that owns our Aussie creations) , it won’t end well
Always been part of the deal. I had V8 Commies in the 80's and 90's and theft was always a risk when parked in the open. Move out of Melbourne to reduce your risk.
Not putting down a VF SSV here, but why would Dubaians want them over there?? I mean they’re not that insane, they’ve got plenty of really nice and much faster cars there already.
dubai loves HSV / HOLDEN they have had many models sold there in the past and have a massive V8 culture.. these cars sell quickly there for a hefty price
Owner of roasting garage (not going to name names but everyone knows the fat flop) got his name by stealing vf hsvs, stripping them and leaving the shells in Mudgee Forrest and selling all parts through his dodgy workshop
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Our country has really gone so far down hill it is clown world 👎🤦
It’s so sad to see it happening in real time
@datwistyman lack of getting a hiding as kids have spawned a whole generation of Deadbeats.
Weak governments. Reduced police numbers. Woke teachers.
@@davehad-enough2369 woke teachers lmfao back to sky news you melt
Just Like UK
For those on a budget
- Horn Relocation
- Dummy Horn
- OBD Port Lock
- Kill Switch
- BCM Locking
- Pedal Locking Plate
- GPS Tracker
For those with $$ on top of the above, IGLA immobiliser or even better the alarm package is the ultimate protection for these vehicles
I'm thinking I'm going to have to do all of the above and the IGLA immobiliser as I couldn't deal with my VF getting stolen/thrashed...
@brettstuchbery1672 Yep asking for trouble parking it in public for even 5 minutes unattended these days as the factory security cannot be relied on anymore 😔
@@blakehowe138 it's so bad and most of the places that I need to go with my VF are the hotspots of theft that I see daily on facebook... :(
Do all you can!
I rent out a Huge Python to VF Commodore Owners !
There's no money in catching thieves
Facts!
@DepravedSpirit Not so. Serco make a boatload of money running prisons in Australia!
Double demerits and heavy fines are here today in NSW. Merry Christmas and happy fine year ppl.
@@marcuspitts2482 Yeah but bail and community service coupled with "had a hard life" sympathy sentences (the wet lettuce leaf slap) have become the norm in our court system.
That scumbag in Melbourne that wheeled a dead girls body around in old old fridge before chucking her on the tip gets bail. WTF???
What hope has a car thief got of being jailed? 2/5 of bugger all for certain and they know it!
@@marcuspitts2482...as in, no money for the office of state revenue buddy.
Its not the cops fault, Its the magistrates that keep putting these dogs out on bail. Its the Mps allowing these young adults to be tried as kids. This needs to stop
Overpaid wig wearing idiots could not be more out of touch with community expectations.
i said the PM , State Leaders all need to address this and put something in motion NOW! no excuse
our laws in general dont have any punishments let alone the youth commiting major crimes
Let me paint ya a picture. It is not about magistrates and MPs being soft.....
Approximately 30,000 to 35,000 people are in jail in Australia.... every day of the year..... which at a cost of $300 each a day... works out to be.... $9 million to $10.5 million a day.... or $3,276,000,000 to $3,822,000,000 ...3.276 billion to 3.82 billion a year.
$300 per day to keep a person in jail is a low-figure..If I recall correctly, the IPA estimated $405 per day for an adult and up to $800 a day for a juvenile.
Let's put this into perspective with a car thief stealing a $90,000 vehicle.... that is likely covered by insurance.
If the courts were to sentence this car thief to a mandatory 7 years with no parole. Using $300 a day x 364 days a year x 7 years..... $764, 400. That is what it will cost to keep 1 car thief in jail for 7 years.... over a $90,000 vehicle covered by insurance.
It would be cheaper to go out and buy the car thief a brand new $160,000 Range Rover and pay its running costs for the next 7 years... on the condition he agrees not to steal any more cars. Even if it cost $20, 000 a year for insurance, petrol and servicing....$300,000...... the Public would be still $464, 400 better off than putting said thief in jail for 7 years.
So where do we draw the line here between a punishment to fit the crime and the best value for the tax payer dollar?
There are approximately 20 million individual tax payers without businesses... Assuming those 20 million are footing the current $3.8 billion prison bill with no offsets.... each tax payer might be paying $191 a year just to keep the current numbers in jail.... yet people want longer sentences and to jail more people?
What deterrent is going to be cost effective and work.... perhaps we could cut their cocks off and leave them with a stump..... that would certainly make the males think twice about stealing a car.
You do realize bail doesnt mean they get off scot free, they dont magically drop the charges when they get bail lol
In Victoria Dan raised the age where kids can't be held responsible for major crimes. Next minute all these kids got recruited by criminal gangs. Hands up if think that wasn't the plan all along.
It's all part of the WEF plan
Absolute joke! Dan was the biggest 🤡
As much as I hate this useless lass that we have now I do have to say Dan most definitely didn't help the crime rate situation in Victoria, that's for sure.
🇦🇺😎👍My mate interrupted a burglar at 11 pm at his home . The long and the short of it is the had a fist fight with the burglar , the police took him away only to return and take my mates gun licence and a safe full of firearms. The charge , excessive force . The guy had scratches and a few bruises. 12 months on still no guns returned still no court case. For goodness sake he was a burglar !
@@bigtrev761 Quite unbelievable yet believable
That’s so stupid.
Nation of victims !
I can only nod my head in belief at this point
Vote out Labor 😡👎
IMMEDIATELY
It would still be happening.
Australia is way too soft on youth crime. I actually now lock my car when driving and will use a club lock. A couple of times recently I've gone to the shops to come back with people hanging around it and looking in the windows etc only to flee when they see my arrive.
You've gotta do what you gotta do!
this is very similar to the Hellcat and Dodge theft in America.
Absolutely correct!!
There’s also the “Kia Boys” who go after Kias and Hyundais mostly for joyrides and using them to commit other crimes.
They are so easy to steal a 10 year old could easily do it😮
I also hear the same thing is going on in the UK with Range Rovers.
Insurance companies will not even cover them in many cases.
The “soft on crime pandemic” is a big problem in the US as well.
Simple hidden fuel pump switch works well.
You gotta do what you gotta do
One was nicked this week in a garage with a hidden fuel pump switch.
They need an immobilizer such as IGLA
They just put it on a loader .
Piggy back the OG obd hide of where they won't find it , put fake in factory spot & wire fake to horn , I think 2 or 3 pins , so when they go to use the OBD it Fry's it !
I have this on my car
I would die before I let someone rob me. Refuse to be a victim of crime.
I’m with you mate
@@RossReviewsau In 2015, I was sitting in gridlocked traffic (Friday morning rush hour). Quicker than I could react, a bicyclist opened my unlocked passenger door and swiped my backpack sitting on the seat - containing a corporate laptop / confidential documents / personal effects. I jumped out and gave chase - STOPPED they cyclist but received a shattered (not just broken - SHATTERED) leg for my efforts. Police came to visit me in hospital. NEVER asked a single question (not one!!!) just told me I'd assaulted the cyclist and I would be charged with CRIMINAL ASSAULT unless I signed a "No Police Action Statement" for the theft of my backpack. If I ever see one of the black costumed SWOT team (Space Wasting Oxygen Thieves) in a severe state of distress, I will NOT assist. I will NOT call for help. I will NOT stop. I'll smile, as I remember the parting words of the police that came to visit me in hospital.
I had a car full try my Vf and confronted the car full of eshays in my undies haha the drove off empty handed
once again ross couldn't have said it better myself, cops care more about car modifications then the real criminals ruining peoples life.
see it from the police's perspective. What's the point doing all the hard work of arresting a car thief and then taking the scumbag to court for the magistrate to give them a slap on the wrist. Next thing the police are arresting them for the same crime for them again to get a slap on the wrist. On top of that the police are under staff.
In regards to car modifications. If the modifications are not ADR compliant or risk the safety of the general public, then they too are a real criminal. Nobody should get a say on what crime they are allowed or not allowed to do.
@@tomnewham1269 spot on. It's the courts and the government that lacks the backbone to do something. One day we will get sick of this and these young offenders will start disappearing......
As they say; rob a bank of $60,000, and everyone up to the federal police will hunt you down nationwide. But steal someone’s $60,000 car and destroy it? Slap on the wrist and get told not to be a naughty boy again.
you aint wrong! the double standard is sickening
I can guarantee your government and the cops won't do a thing, they want them off the roads. Same here in NZ. Do everything you can to protect our precious Holdens and HSV's
They don’t make money from catching real crims.. only fining hard working Aussies
Remove the steering wheel like Mr Bean use to do on his Mini Cooper 😂😂
Not a bad idea anymore
Did that on my vl with a quick release. Thing is it’s illegal to fit one on a car that has air bags
Remove a wheel & put in on an axle stand. Try & drive a car with three wheels…
I would not be surprised if the owners end up being charged for defending his/her property in the situation where the owner ends up dealing with the problem themselves
Literally. The thieves will get bail again whilst the owner will be in a shitload of trouble. It’s absolutely ridiculous.
They have been charged in the past for giving chase to the thief’s
@@RossReviewsau Unreal isn’t it.
such a stupid state of affairs when thats the reality. i keep a machete next to my bed incase of break ins or car theft, god forbit i protect my home, id be the bad guy for making sure no one hurts my family. putrid government we live under.
@@TonySopranosBurner Exactly. The thieves end up having more bloody rights than the person trying to protect their family and property. It’s absolutely disgusting, and they keep doing it and keep getting off with a slap on the wrist. Utterly ridiculous.
You could have your VF stolen and know exactly where it is and the police will finally turn up for details just as it gets shipped off to god knows where
If they find you doing 70 in a 60 zone they'll speed up to Mach 1 billion to give out the fine
And that my firends is policing in Australia
It’s true and a complete joke
Ross! Haven't even watched the whole video but thank you for bringing this to the attention of the viewers - I personally ended up selling my VF II SSV Redline (the one you reviewed 2yrs ago!) which I loved and had for 7 years because of this issue..
I had the BCM locked which helped because it did prevent it from being stolen from a pub but after that was too paranoid to have it as a daily...
It’s a terrible shame you had to sell it. But I feel for you man it’s really out of control
@@RossReviewsauI know...was a hard decision but glad I was able to enjoy it for that long
On a separate note - when your in Melbourne again and want to review what I have now (2020 X3 M40i - B58 / 8 speed ZF) it's also really fun!
How do you lock down the bcm?
@@paulsz6194 if in Melbourne c&a Auto fashion does it and also a place called automotive lighting customs
We just bought our second vf, a clubsport and we have a ss with walkinshaw performance package. We have worked so hard to finally buy our dream cars and now can't enjoy them. I'm terrified to take it out. I've driven it 5 times in the 2 months I've owned it. My f@%Ken dream car! I work my ass off, to pay my way. And this is heart breaking
Time to sell
This country is being run by muppets 😞 this is not the country I moved too so long ago
Get an IGLA system fitted, only way they can steal it is towing it. I’m getting one as soon as I can pay for it
Corrupt government equals shit life, and that's what we have.
Revenue is 1000 times more important and fines have nothing to do with safety.
i cant argue with you .. so sad
In the Old Days, You Steal a Mans Horse, it was a Hanging Offense, the Car Replaced the Horse, So, "Make Hanging Great Again"
There is a wire for the horn that runs under front passenger wheel arch. This is what they will disconnect fiirst bc the alarm system is wited to the horn so only lights will flash when door is opened.
Consider changing wire harness positioning.
And also add another horn somewhere under the chassis somewhere tap off that wire closer to the engine bay so when they cut the horn the new horn will still work
@@michaelswonderfulworld train horn
@@xavierpeters33 perfect
My 2009 FPV has climbed to $1800 in insurance and thats for driving 3 days a week. And the reason why the government wont do anything about it cause there is no revenue to be made locking these hoods up.
The sad reality is the government is happy these cars are off the road so you will be forced into an EV
@@RossReviewsauif u make enough money it doesn’t matter 😂they can’t stop me
Ha. The parents are the ones sending the kids out there to steal. That way they don't suffer the consequences!
Parents need to parent
My HSV is protected by Captain Caneknife
Chopped Stuey
I'll protect my property because the courts won't
the courts protect the crims against us!
@@RossReviewsau Ross - I Done something to my LSA to make it impossible to steal. Dont want to mention it here to give these arseholes a leg up. Its doable but unfortuantely necesary these days.
Sadly we have absolutely useless government bodies that are so weak and let these offenders get away with next to no penalties. The parents should also be held accountable for not having proper control of their children.
You work for 42yrs to have $2m in your retirement, Meanwhile some people are putting just $20k in a meme coin for just few months and now they are multi millionaires. I pray that anyone who reads this will be successful in life
Well explain thank you for bringing up this video
Financial education is indeed required for more than 80% of the society in the country as very few are literate on the subject. The value of the US🇺🇸dollar is declining due to inflation, but it is increasing in comparison to other currencies and commodities such as gold and real estate. I'm worried that rising inflation will cause my 550k in my retirement funds to lose value, But with the help of Mrs Maria I hit 220k this week from my investment of 45k, I am truly grateful for all the knowledge and nuggets you have given me over the past few months.
Rosa Parks program is widely available online..
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Don’t be scammed by being greedy.
We have been dealing with this for years in the U.K.
Can’t even get ANY insurance if you park your motorcycle on the street in London . Just straight won’t insure you. It’s killed the bike industry. And the old school fords can’t be left anywhere
All three of mine are parked in the lounge room
@@subaruwrx3381bikes, or Fords ?
australia has this terrible way of following the UK even tho its failed miserably over there
It is not necessarily thr boys and girls in blue fault with the repeat offenders. It more the case the legal system and magistrates whi grant bail. The cops arrest them and it is some weak magistrate who grants bail and gives a slap on the wrist
I remove the ignition fuse in my 2017 redline just incase when I'm at dinner even with all the anti thefts devices I have installed including the IGLA system and Track My Ride GPS. A tow truck can simpy take it away but I could track them if they don't find my GPS which is hard wired.
Yup, better safe than sorry!
We need the good old Telephone Book to come back.
😠😠
I've been getting some dirty looks from other motorists thinking I'm probably in a stolen car. Asians aren't normally driving VF GTS I guess. Got to the point of me having to fit IGLA immobiliser,relocated horn,BCM locking and a hidden magnetic kill switch. Plus the bloody car is parked behind bollards full of concrete. My Mrs want it gone because she's worried some slime bag will try to rob our house for it. Sad state of affairs. Not to mention my insurance have gone up heaps too.
its really a sad thing happening
You gotta do everything you can sadly
At least you are pro active, well done
this reminds me when Subaru WRX's were the hot car to steal. An owner in Sydney nearly got car jacked and after that he sold the car for the same reason as your thinking of selling your car. Nobody should feel uncomfortable driving their own vehicle but I can understand why people would give in as their family's safety comes first.
September in the car park at work I had attempted theft of my vf SSV. They cut through the front inner guards, got into the car but were spooked by a passer by and drove off. The day before I had it washed polished and clay barred. Looked like it just came off the line I was so angry and upset. Now I use a pro lock on the steering wheel. Had to put a claim in because damage to front and drivers door handle. I stress now all the time. You work hard to pay and afford what you own and love, it’s totally destroyed.
Repair it, buy a shit heap for work, keep your Commi as a weekender and lock it up in a shed!
@@2007seno at the very least lock the bcm and relocate the horn, steering locks are too easy for them to remove
@@blakehowe138even the good ol’ Aunger Pro lock?
thats just not right! these maggots need to be locked away & bring back hard labour
I used to have a vf ssv redline. One of the last ones made. Glad I sold it because I would be too scared to drive to these days! Such a shame because they really are fantastic cars
It’s a terrible thing what’s happening.. many people selling them now as to afraid to drive them
@ can’t blame them bro! Insurance will sky rocket. People won’t be able to afford to keep them also
@@MattLaff747yup, I have a vf ss redline series 2 vf clubsport lsa and a vl turbo and im more worried about the vfs than the vl
@ I don’t blame you mate! I have a WH now (did a video with Ross a month or so ago. Red one on his channel) and I think I’ll get a alarm fitted into mine sooner rather than later to be safe
Even putting them up for sale, inviting a potential thief to your home, even if you meet up at a petrol station, they could get someone different to follow you home.
Owners should get alarms isolated from the main system, use a tracking device, use a faraday pouch for the key and the spare key as well. Buy a pedal locking devices
We gotta be doing all we can it seems
I was at deposit stage on a really nice VF ute and have delayed my decision. Great cars but too risky to buy something that can be stolen so easily and regularly.
It’s like the hellcat situation in the USA 🇺🇸
its not a pandemic nor an epidemic but it's definitely organised crime Ross.
Rego in WA is creeping up each year also...almost a grand each year is criminal
It is criminal!
You should see QLD, $1200 for a year to register i6 (Barra)
@@timothysimmers2917 madness
$900 in Victoria just paid mine
1.8k to register my 5L per year (NSW) p plater… fucking ridiculous
I take my fuel pump fuse out on my car bullshit needs too stop keep you cars safe everyone
Doesn't stop them they'll just drag it on a tow truck or pop a fuse in and start it
I worked security for 20 years and generally if someone wants in, they're generally getting in and it costs a lot to fix and replace things, sometimes you just gotta improvise at your inconvenience. I know this would be a pain in the arse thing to do, but if you're a weekend driver with your expensive car and worried about it. Maybe consider things like jacking your own car up and removing two wheels, and put the wheel nuts in different location to the wheels. I'm sure someone can with good car knowledge can think of something else like disconnecting an important cable or remove some of those fuse things that do lights and other electronics....How about a PIR camera that's direct to your phone looking at your car. You could think about ways to secure/harden your garage door the good car sits behind.
What about even just removing the car battery?
Hence why i dont drive mine anymore, Its locked away and no one knows where.
Sad eh.. you gotta be careful nowadays
I work as a mechanic and just the other week one of the guys VF SS was stolen out of the car park at smoko, was in and out in 5 mins. A guy who also works in the industry told me its easier to steal a car with a start/stop button then a car with an actual key, there's also an app you can get which helps you steal cars as well. The obd port is the main way they do it as well.
Many VF owners are adding a bypass wiring to get to the horn rather from the guard. The obvious GPS tracker and removing fuel pump and starter relay will help.
You gotta do everything you can
Isolate the fuel pump circuit. Run another wiring harness for the horn and even another horn. Reposition the OBD connector or even fit a fake one after its been repositioned. It really sucks!
Gotta do all you can.. as seen they even just flat out tow it away sometime 🙃
Can't believe these devices are on eBay. Should stamp this out i only drive my vf ss on weekends don't park in shopping centres anymore this is a real shame should not be happening thanks for this video
It's heartbreaking!
Back in the day, I had an 1977 LX Torana SLR5000. To say I was paranoid that someone would steal it was an under statement. Almost any Holden Key would open it and start it. I wired the positive of the ignition coil to a toggle switch, then to ground. Hid the switch under the seat. Also had a battery isolation bolt. and another method that I'm not going to give away. Mongoose alarm with tilt sensor on backup battery helped. If the engine won't start, then it's reasonably safe.
Those methods sound pretty good!
@@RossReviewsau If it's an old car, remove the rotor and put the dizzi cap back on. Then you will sleep. Who has a spare rotor in their pocket
Well said. That last comment on insurance. Yeah. I have a toy that's costs more than 10% of its worth in insurance and it may get 500km a year.
More worried about more exhaust than preventing theft
we really have lost the plot here in australia
At least in Qld the LNP has just put a stop to things . With “Adult time adult crime “ laws now !
Good!!!
Good!!!
A Prolock steering wheel lock for AUD 80 will make it a bit harder, they'll need an angle grinder to remove it, but at-least you'll hear the noise at night if they are trying.
All you can you should!
Yep good one I have a prolock steering lock for my hsv grange will be buying another one soon for my daily vf sportswagon. Crazy times
Gps tracker with ignition or fuel cut, if i take my car out, its never out of my sight, going shops or anything like that i take the daily. Also the insurance is ridiculous, im up to $3700 a year right now🤦🏼♂️
the insurance is killing us
Speaking of coming down hard on holden owners, I legit got a defect for pinstriped taillights on my vy calais yesterday! Absolutely pathetic they couldn't pick on anything on the car but that. They'd been on the car over a year and never had an issue till yesterday 🙄
complete joke! this is are tax dollars working
I was paying 3k a year for insurance on my toyota 86 in Parramatta moved up to ballina shire i now pay 1500. Its becoming impossible to live in a city and be a car enthusiast!
Fully comp never had accident or demerit points btw on my fulls since 2022
That is insane!
I still would be careful in certain parts of Ballina with the local juvenile Aboriginal thieving bastards. ( sorry stolen generation, victims )
Vf hsv are in demand. Carexpert also just did a video on this pandemic 😮
yes another good watch! they want the VF as its an expensive car now & can easily be sold overseas
Thieves seem to be targeting VF's with push button start the most as these can be unlocked with a device they buy off the internet... Thanks for helping raise awareness about this issue 👍
Edit: @2:10 Probably should blur this section out
defs blur it out. Don't need to be giving them the names or pics of the tech
Yup, it's scary how easy they make it seem to steal
@@RossReviewsauAbsolutely... But don't forget to blur out that scene (on the time stamp)
Why blur it out (@2:10) thieving c***s already know what equipment they need to steal cars & how to obtain said equipment & if they're just starting their career in crime the information is probably just a Google search or group chat question away, so blurring it out won't make any difference.
Putting pics of the devices out there for general knowledge may be of some benefit.
I wouldn't have the faintest idea what is required to steal a VF Commodore as I'm not a thief, nevertheless if I had an idea of what the equipment required to steal one looked like and I saw someone else in possession of that equipment then I would be looking at that person rather suspiciously.
Guy installing a security system at my house said one problem is if they can't steal it, they'll trash it. Kick in the panels and smash windows. So the car is a write-off anyway..
I don’t wanna have to say it but how much we betting that the thieves are not from Australia.
There is definitely an international market part to this
I'm sure many of them (if not most) are from Australia
Yet we all still vote for the two same parties expecting change when even when we vote for independent and minority parties they filter back to the two main mirrored systems. Funding is capped for small parties yet the big two use your taxes to fund their revenue agendas.
we need a new system here because we are broken beyond repair at the moment
Ive got mine over insured, might get the money to buy something but dosent replace the heart ache
Can’t replace them eh😞
@RossReviewsau no but if that happened i definitely buy another v8
Mine is a VE SS, always wondered how they steal these things, watched a similar video yesterday which went into a bit more detail about the method, can't believe Holden made the horn wire so accessible. They recommended a relocated horn, and an immobiliser with a pin pad. $3000. 😬
Insurance is ridiculous.
Old school protection I reckon steering wheel lock, put a tracker in the car and even hard wire fuel pump switch
A $5 switch a little bit of wire will stop them from driving away in any car
worth doing
This makes me so depressed as a 19yo dreamer, any chance of owning one is diminishing, this is making them more expensive
the world has gone to crap seemingly overnight
Anyone who has an expensive hsv or any car like that should definitely invest in bollards in the garage/ driveway, along with air tags, it'll cost a bit but if you care about your car enough you'll go to the lengths to keep it safe
Good call, definitely worth it
Yeah, big dollar classic owners have had to do this for a long time. Private security when going to events etc.
have to admit I don't see many HSV out in the wild anymore - except my Grange which now attracts some attention, but thankfully from older people so I don't think they'd be on the radar for youngsters
@thesolver1970 my vy ss had a lot of attention from people looking at my car at night, so it's not just the vfs that are being eyed off
Problem is what if they pinch it at a servo or a shopping centre or a mates house etc. At least one countermeasure on your car will go along way
That's not a knife... THAT'S A KNIFE! lol miss the old days
We used to be so cool in Australia
If it's that prevalent couldn't some vf owners get together and accidentally leave cars in non camera or people areas........ Who knows what accidents could happen to someone doing dangerous crimes like car theft 🤷♂️
might happen soon
Tired of soft on crime nonsense, enough is enough
100% agree!
They won’t do anything about it ever
You can imagine a lot of these youths probably have irresponsible junkies for parents too! Such a great society this is becoming folks!
im sure they do sadly
If only we could have gun rights
I completely agree 100% and you should be able to defend yourself and your property from violation.
we should at least have the right to protect our property! they will come after you if you go after the criminals
@@RossReviewsau I agree Ross and it sucks with Young offenders getting a slap on the wrist for it every time
I wonder what sort of demographic shift could be causing this sudden and unexpected increase? Surprised face!
The current police minister doesn’t want to address the bigger issues. He’s too busy targeting legal firearms owners with unnecessary laws. It’s a case of look over here not there for political brownie points. I like to think Australians are smarter than that.
Ross Reviews - The Coffeezilla of the Aussie Car Scene?
Great video man, keen to see more like this!
Another thing that needs to be noted is that currently there is a push to raise the age that someone can be found guilty of a crime. That may be raised up to 14 years of age soon. States vary but they are all making a push to raise this.
I went old tech for my VF2 bought a crook lock after someone tried to seal it while I was washing it.
Good thinking, you gotta do all you can
Thanks for the content buddy
Wish it was on a better topic
I watched the same informational video yesterday (day prior to your release)
I'm glad you found it informative! Yes he beat me to it but the message needs to be told regardless
Thanks for the tips to look after our cars.
You’re welcome, hope it helps!
Have mine in a garage with garage door power removed, ECM/BCM locked so keys cannot be created and finally an Igla installed
Bit worried about my partners VF Wagon. Seems to be happening across all trim levels too tbh, not just the V8's.
Mainly those with push button start
They're after them all now unfortunately
I got out my tuning hardware and locked the ECM AND BCM on my VF Clubsports wagon
Smart move!
Omg!! That shirt is so fitting!!! Literally your hair is receding so fast and furiously that your becoming Vin Diesel!!! Omg rossaldinio
FAMILY
What about ODB port locks? Problem is if you’re using it for an accessory like I do…
Everyone watching make sure you let anyone you know with a Commodore (Friends, family, work colleges etc) to take extra security measures, including getting them to watch this video.
If they got massive fines and jail.time they wouldnt get the teenagers to steal it
Its the same in the UK with Range Rovers that are now uninsurable & in the US with dodge Hellcats & multiple keyless entry cars including GM'S & a lot more stolen than in Australia so it's worldwide, not just locally⁉️ Installing a simple hidden kill switch might help but wont stop a tow truck snatching your car in a car park❓️
I've got everything to protect mine short of a trunk monkey. And despite all that I won't park it in a shopping centre for 10 mins without fitting an alarmed club lock.
I think I'm going to have to go down the path of ALL of the deterrents as even though my VF looks fairly standard as you know it definitely isn't and would break my heart if it was stolen and thrashed/destroyed....
Gotta do all you can know😞
i just insured two cars Ross and it totalled $2600 annually, so the quick math is $10,000 cost ins in 4 years i think ill have to go and have a cold shower now
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Armed hold up for a Commodore.
time to pick another career champ.
poor bloke took 2 bullets for his SS
No different to when I was young..all commodores were vulnerable. Everyone fitted alarms like Mongoose, Piranha etc. Those my age know what I mean..nothing new except maybe overseas export.
Just do your best and have adequate insurance.
I assume a tracker does help but I guess it's not full proof (VF GTS) 😮
not full proof but as much as you can afford to safe guard
It’s sad times right now. I’m glad we didn’t get a VF/Gen-F and instead opted for an FG X. Sure, it’s still at risk of being stolen, but I’m a little more at ease given it’s still has an ignition barrel. Either way, I’m driving it far less and if I do, it’s away from the city or anywhere that has a less than stellar reputation.
If I catch them trying to steal my car (or anyone that owns our Aussie creations) , it won’t end well
Keep your F6 safe.
I am 😫
Always been part of the deal. I had V8 Commies in the 80's and 90's and theft was always a risk when parked in the open. Move out of Melbourne to reduce your risk.
does anyone know who in Perth WA supplies and installs these IGLA devices? google hasnt really been much help
@@bigred3188 unfortunately not yet, euro chip tuning is looking for installers in WA and SA
I bet the police are all over this.. 😒
Lol
SSSSSSSUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.................
I pay $6,500 as a p plater for my Ford Falcon XR6 FG it’s a joke
insurance?
WTF!
Metal braided horn line? Reinforce that baby gentlemen. A lot of the old muscles cars will have secret ignition sequences only the owner will know.
This is so sad they don’t make these anymore
very sad.. this government would rather see you in a chinese EV that cost twice the price
Not putting down a VF SSV here, but why would Dubaians want them over there?? I mean they’re not that insane, they’ve got plenty of really nice and much faster cars there already.
People want what they can’t have….
dubai loves HSV / HOLDEN they have had many models sold there in the past and have a massive V8 culture.. these cars sell quickly there for a hefty price
Owner of roasting garage (not going to name names but everyone knows the fat flop) got his name by stealing vf hsvs, stripping them and leaving the shells in Mudgee Forrest and selling all parts through his dodgy workshop
😠 terrible
Are they not stealing VE SSVs too?? Surely they are older and therefore easier to take.
They probably are, they’re just down down the pecking order…
they are