I think the greatest part of this game is most the guns are totally able to win against each other depending on the user which makes the game completely opinion based, and thats awesome!!! Use what gun you love the most and you can keep up with all the other firepower just fine
How many S/A/B tiers there are says a lot about how healthy the state of balance is right now. Yeah there's the clear metas that inch above the rest in their respective orders, but you can play almost anything and be competitive.
drilling hatchet actually has slower reload compared to full size drilling and drilling shorty has faster reload compared to fullsize drill. To be exact hatchet is 0.8 seconds slower than shorty. Almost a second. Which is huge in my opinion.
I would argue the Base LeMat is better than the Haymaker in the shotgun category if you're only taking the shotgun aspect into account as you can dualwield the base pistol.
It gets points for being single slot, and from the testing I've done in the shooting range I think they have basically the same effective range for buckshot.
Both if I remember well. You almost never feel cheated anymore (shooting on target and the target not dying). If you are on target and in range, it dies.
The shotgun target reticle reflecting the spread is huge for me. Before I believe the height of the reticle lined up with the height of a hunter showing the OHK range. Before the changes I'd play longer range shotguns like the specter just because the reticle was tighter and I could hip fire aim better with it.
What gun would you recommend to a new player. I have decent shot placements I seem to do really good with bolt actions and I love the Romero . I keep one tapping ppl . I can’t find a good lever action I like at all
The centennial is one of the best lever action rifles in the game and also one of the most bang for buck weapons in the game. mako is good if you want long ammo lever and right now. iron eye trait will make all lever actions feel better btw. hope this helps!
@@khalamity2249 thanks I will try it! I’m getting my ass kicked so hard lol 😂 some how I do the best when I’m out of money and I have the Romero haha maybe because I’m less worried about dying
marathon at C doesn't feel right with how its hipfire is so much more consistent than the other compact ammo rifles with or without levering (jump hipfiring works crazy good with it) and it has a much nicer ads experience due to being pump-action + great irons + fastest fire-rate. really works well with aggressive plays
@@issayori no matter how good a weapon is, there are weapons that do it better along with other benefits. I love the marathon! My love doesn’t blind me to its faults though. Low pen unless fmj and then low muzzle velocity. Has to compete with shotguns/levering/fanning etc in close range and low dmg and cannot pen someone’s hand blocking their face if it’s doesn’t have fmj
Infantry sniper is the most overpowered 6 star weapon. Loterally has no bullet drop, 660m/s travel time and fires every 1.2 seconds. Only in mid range it's worse than long ammo but it can also be levered close up. Overall I consider it S-tier just becauae you get so much ammo and it's just free kills every time it's in the loadout.
@@TPguard5 I’m glad you like it and I do too, but everyone making a case for their weapons in the comments seem to always ignore the negative aspects of their chosen weapon to idolize
Infantry sniper in B?! When hitting headshots is what matters to a sniper, having the lowest bullet drop and high mag size with levering for close range would put that gun at least in A with the Centennial Sniper. Now the non sniper variant I understand should be that low. If a swift variant of that gun comes out though, it would take A. And the Centennial Sniper at A seems like it could be argued as S alongside the others when you consider the High velocity having 750 m/s speed.
The fact of the matter is that it's still a sniper so while it's good at clicking heads at a distance, iron sights will still be the best bang for your buck. At close range you better be packing a medium specter or something cause otherwise you're screwed in a gunfight
@@DamianJoseph661 obviously a shotgun wins up close. Which is why my sniper load outs are only quartermaster ones that allow me to take a pocket shorty to cover that weakness. Horty shotguns got overbuffed in my opinion to the point I get more one shot kills with the shorty Romero than the big brother of it. I’ve barrel stuffed a person with the regular Romero and not killed them, but I get mid range 1 taps with the sawed off? Something ain’t adding up with that logic
Thanks for video! Hand crossbow with fire bolts is SSS+... nothing comes nowhere near to fun you can have with it. I got bored of Hunt ...I literally can't play any other weapon anymore. 6 star lobbies ....burn them...level of anger is high sky!
enjoyed the tier list! unfortunately, everytime someone makes a weapon tier list and puts railroad hammer in bottom tier, the more likely matchmaking teammates are to leave party when they see me trying to bring one to a game, lmfao
@@schiedinator8074 pax has a better cycle time then both and that matters a lot in compound fights. Pax and true shot have better fans then the uppercut which also matters. And they get bleed ammo. The true shot being better is because it is basically the uppercut medium ammo now but for 1/4th the price but uppercut and pax trueshot are pretty equal. upper has some benefits that trueshot doesn't and trueshot has a few things upper doesn't
I literally hate the auto 5 lol. EVERYTIME I use it the ring decides to spread my butt checks. In my opinion, the best shotguns the use are the rival 78, and the specter. The specter is the most consistent shotgun I have ever used while the rival 78 has decent range but a super fast follow up shot. I will always kill hunters with at least 2 shots, but have been finding myself lucky with one hits after the update. The terminus though takes the came with levering and bulletgrabber as the best shotgun in my opinion but only if you have levering.
@@ДмитрийКулаков-л1ц right now, it's just a less consistent one shot. the buffed a lot of shotties and you are almost better running a medium slot shotty then rival if you go by kill potential
Even though drilling shotgun is goated, I wouldn't put it way too high. The reason - laughably small ammo reserves. It's just so unforgiving to miss a shot or use it for wallbangs
Wow! A list I have basically 0 problems with. Well done. Maybe krag sniper should be lower relative to lebel and mosin sniper due to lack of spitzer, but other then that consideration its perfect
Imo the best shotgun is without a doubt the terminus with levering, its been much more consistent than the auto 5 for me Also for pistols the trueshot HV is what I always use alongside the terminus or crossbow, for long range shots Another weapon that people are sleeping on is the martini ironside HV/Spitzer (dont remember wich one it is) that makes the weapon compete with the big 3 in terms of over 125 dmg and high muzzle velocity, It basically becomes an ultra budget mosin! But i agree with most of the list in general 👌
52:35 Even though I play the game at the lowest fov and really close to the monitor, I often have difficulty seeing the players. As a crossbow main, this variant is very good for me.
proud to be the only 6 star compact user!!! when u can aim and lead, u need only headshots. faster fire rate is more important that hitting power, specially when everything is a 1 shot. my list would probably be a little diffrent lol
suppressed weapons are just not as good in straight up fights as all the other weapons. no matter how hard you try to be stealthy, people with silence weapons will find themselves in straight up fights at some point. then you really see how weak they are
No way the rival trauma is that low. It has an extremely quick kill time on a duo. Maybe it can't wipe a trio like a crown, but it's solid and that hammer can smack most of the bosses.
@@Kevin-s5x7r Agreed but at that point it would be a 2v3 for your team and with the romero being very consistent and strong I think thats an advantage and trade off I usually would take. Its its cheap af ^^
its kinda slept on I dont see it much, although I HATE when someone has it lol its so annoying to fight its basically a higher damage centennial minus some velocity
@@jotacep switching to your Uppercut instead of cycling the next Mosin round is faster. That technique is called quickswitch. It's quite popular in many games. "Always remember: switching to your secondary is always faster than reloading".
I've honestly just never liked the mako. The sights dont feel good, and theres no reason to take it over the other long ammo guns. I feel like its on the same level as the berthier, but the berthier has 6 more shots and is cheaper.
The Mako can use levering (it's actually really good with levering) as well as take explosive ammo. Laugh all you want, but explosive Mako low key slaps. Normally it's a very mid ammo type, but the Mako fires fast enough (especially with levering or iron eye) to where explosive is much more efficient on it than the one shotters like Springfield/MC-1 and even the uppercut. Plus it might just be me but explosive ammo feels a little bit better in this patch, dunno if it got buffed but either way I've been doing better with it than in the past
I strongly disagree about spectre, right know is like the worst shotgun in the game hands down: i passed hours in training and right now it has a comparable onetap to rival, which is absolute nonsense. i don't know if it's intended or not but there is zero reason to pick spectre at the moment, not to mention the bayonette version which is the only bladed shotty with even more reduced range. F tier hands down. It should be like the old school shotty where specter was juuust a little less reliable than romero. Other than that i would put lemat pistol way up cause with slugs is like the go to for compounds without quartermaster.
Deadeye Marksmen Sniper scope sway on console makes snipers so slow they are very easy to deface with irons. Good tier list my dude. Console has it’s benefits I think 😊
Thanks all for watching and I hope it's easier to see which weapons are which in this one compared to my last tierlist
I think the greatest part of this game is most the guns are totally able to win against each other depending on the user which makes the game completely opinion based, and thats awesome!!! Use what gun you love the most and you can keep up with all the other firepower just fine
@@Pnda_Bear I agree that anyone can kill anyone with any weapon. But some weapons will do it more often
How many S/A/B tiers there are says a lot about how healthy the state of balance is right now. Yeah there's the clear metas that inch above the rest in their respective orders, but you can play almost anything and be competitive.
drilling hatchet actually has slower reload compared to full size drilling and drilling shorty has faster reload compared to fullsize drill. To be exact hatchet is 0.8 seconds slower than shorty. Almost a second. Which is huge in my opinion.
oh yeah and since spear exist it kinda trivializes hatchet
Hatchet has less sway also
@@ShinkoHay put whatever one you want first!
I would argue the Base LeMat is better than the Haymaker in the shotgun category if you're only taking the shotgun aspect into account as you can dualwield the base pistol.
@@Kahronoz not just taking shotgun into account or both would be lower
It gets points for being single slot, and from the testing I've done in the shooting range I think they have basically the same effective range for buckshot.
How did the shotguns get buffed? I might be a bit out of the loop.
Do they do more damage over distance or is the spread reduced?
Both if I remember well. You almost never feel cheated anymore (shooting on target and the target not dying). If you are on target and in range, it dies.
They tightened all the spreads, especially the medium slots
@@thomasmartin5403 both is correct. Long shotguns were buffed with both. Medium and small shotguns received tighter spread
The shotgun target reticle reflecting the spread is huge for me. Before I believe the height of the reticle lined up with the height of a hunter showing the OHK range. Before the changes I'd play longer range shotguns like the specter just because the reticle was tighter and I could hip fire aim better with it.
@@thomasmartin5403 oh hell yeah that sounds good
What gun would you recommend to a new player. I have decent shot placements I seem to do really good with bolt actions and I love the Romero . I keep one tapping ppl . I can’t find a good lever action I like at all
The centennial is one of the best lever action rifles in the game and also one of the most bang for buck weapons in the game. mako is good if you want long ammo lever and right now. iron eye trait will make all lever actions feel better btw. hope this helps!
@@khalamity2249 thanks I will try it! I’m getting my ass kicked so hard lol 😂 some how I do the best when I’m out of money and I have the Romero haha maybe because I’m less worried about dying
marathon at C doesn't feel right with how its hipfire is so much more consistent than the other compact ammo rifles with or without levering (jump hipfiring works crazy good with it) and it has a much nicer ads experience due to being pump-action + great irons + fastest fire-rate. really works well with aggressive plays
@@issayori no matter how good a weapon is, there are weapons that do it better along with other benefits. I love the marathon! My love doesn’t blind me to its faults though. Low pen unless fmj and then low muzzle velocity. Has to compete with shotguns/levering/fanning etc in close range and low dmg and cannot pen someone’s hand blocking their face if it’s doesn’t have fmj
@@khalamity2249 fair point 🤝🏽
Infantry sniper is the most overpowered 6 star weapon. Loterally has no bullet drop, 660m/s travel time and fires every 1.2 seconds.
Only in mid range it's worse than long ammo but it can also be levered close up.
Overall I consider it S-tier just becauae you get so much ammo and it's just free kills every time it's in the loadout.
@@TPguard5 I’m glad you like it and I do too, but everyone making a case for their weapons in the comments seem to always ignore the negative aspects of their chosen weapon to idolize
Did I miss it or was the drilling not in the rifle tier list?
Infantry sniper in B?! When hitting headshots is what matters to a sniper, having the lowest bullet drop and high mag size with levering for close range would put that gun at least in A with the Centennial Sniper. Now the non sniper variant I understand should be that low. If a swift variant of that gun comes out though, it would take A. And the Centennial Sniper at A seems like it could be argued as S alongside the others when you consider the High velocity having 750 m/s speed.
The fact of the matter is that it's still a sniper so while it's good at clicking heads at a distance, iron sights will still be the best bang for your buck. At close range you better be packing a medium specter or something cause otherwise you're screwed in a gunfight
@@DamianJoseph661 obviously a shotgun wins up close. Which is why my sniper load outs are only quartermaster ones that allow me to take a pocket shorty to cover that weakness. Horty shotguns got overbuffed in my opinion to the point I get more one shot kills with the shorty Romero than the big brother of it. I’ve barrel stuffed a person with the regular Romero and not killed them, but I get mid range 1 taps with the sawed off? Something ain’t adding up with that logic
Thanks for video! Hand crossbow with fire bolts is SSS+... nothing comes nowhere near to fun you can have with it. I got bored of Hunt ...I literally can't play any other weapon anymore. 6 star lobbies ....burn them...level of anger is high sky!
enjoyed the tier list! unfortunately, everytime someone makes a weapon tier list and puts railroad hammer in bottom tier, the more likely matchmaking teammates are to leave party when they see me trying to bring one to a game, lmfao
my apologies. know that i wouldn't leave if I noticed you had one. railroad mains always have my back
Auto5 slugs with uppercut is my go to loadout… budget loadout is the same but with a romero instead along with the 4 shot tool just in case
Why is pax better than pax trueshot? And both of those better than uppercut, they dont have long ammo
@@schiedinator8074 pax has a better cycle time then both and that matters a lot in compound fights. Pax and true shot have better fans then the uppercut which also matters. And they get bleed ammo. The true shot being better is because it is basically the uppercut medium ammo now but for 1/4th the price but uppercut and pax trueshot are pretty equal. upper has some benefits that trueshot doesn't and trueshot has a few things upper doesn't
@@khalamity2249 the bleed on the pax is just so damn good
I literally hate the auto 5 lol. EVERYTIME I use it the ring decides to spread my butt checks. In my opinion, the best shotguns the use are the rival 78, and the specter. The specter is the most consistent shotgun I have ever used while the rival 78 has decent range but a super fast follow up shot. I will always kill hunters with at least 2 shots, but have been finding myself lucky with one hits after the update. The terminus though takes the came with levering and bulletgrabber as the best shotgun in my opinion but only if you have levering.
Surprised he puts op rival so low in the tier
@@ДмитрийКулаков-л1ц right now, it's just a less consistent one shot. the buffed a lot of shotties and you are almost better running a medium slot shotty then rival if you go by kill potential
Even though drilling shotgun is goated, I wouldn't put it way too high. The reason - laughably small ammo reserves. It's just so unforgiving to miss a shot or use it for wallbangs
Wow! A list I have basically 0 problems with. Well done. Maybe krag sniper should be lower relative to lebel and mosin sniper due to lack of spitzer, but other then that consideration its perfect
i had a hard time trying to evaluate krag specifically because of no spitzer. its better then lebel base but lebel with spitzer is a tough opponent
9:37 You shouldn't have doubted yourself. Romero Hatchet is genuinely S-tier.
@@nexus274 only having one shot stops it being S tier imo still
@khalamity2249 I'm a crossbow fanboy, so I guess I'm a bit more inclined to bank everything on a single shot than most people.
Imo the best shotgun is without a doubt the terminus with levering, its been much more consistent than the auto 5 for me
Also for pistols the trueshot HV is what I always use alongside the terminus or crossbow, for long range shots
Another weapon that people are sleeping on is the martini ironside HV/Spitzer (dont remember wich one it is) that makes the weapon compete with the big 3 in terms of over 125 dmg and high muzzle velocity,
It basically becomes an ultra budget mosin!
But i agree with most of the list in general 👌
Cyclone bretty good. Pair with katana and 4 tools/ traps for funsies
@@panzfaust9812 solid build!
idk if u would put LeMat this low specially if u play Dual LeMat u can destroy crazy
52:35 Even though I play the game at the lowest fov and really close to the monitor, I often have difficulty seeing the players. As a crossbow main, this variant is very good for me.
that's awesome! I'm glad you find it useful!
Feel like the multiple ammo types would bump up the Romero half shotties for me
i trust the romero hatchet with my life
proud to be the only 6 star compact user!!! when u can aim and lead, u need only headshots. faster fire rate is more important that hitting power, specially when everything is a 1 shot. my list would probably be a little diffrent lol
@@kingkracker1998 you aren’t the only one! There are a few but yeah long ammo still dominates
I still think better lo silenced should be up in A or B just due to it being probably the best suppressed weapon in the game all round
suppressed weapons are just not as good in straight up fights as all the other weapons. no matter how hard you try to be stealthy, people with silence weapons will find themselves in straight up fights at some point. then you really see how weak they are
No way the rival trauma is that low. It has an extremely quick kill time on a duo. Maybe it can't wipe a trio like a crown, but it's solid and that hammer can smack most of the bosses.
@@dakotabarrett5585 I love the trauma but right now it’s one of the most inconsistent shotguns compared to the others.
@@khalamity2249 i second that, rival is my favorite shotgun and i find that it has the worst consistency by far which almost stops me from using it
With slugs the consistency is good. I like the sights on it as well. Great shotgun for me but only with slugs
You lost me with that Alamo placement. That gun is absolutely wack.
It's a good gun but that's why opinions exist
yeah alamo trash
actually most of the guns in this game are completely trash
Why so much hate for it? It’s just a better Romeo right? I haven’t played for a while but feel free to enlighten me :/
@@cccspwn the cycle speed is so bad. People usually push in groups and it's too slow to counter it.
@@Kevin-s5x7r Agreed but at that point it would be a 2v3 for your team and with the romero being very consistent and strong I think thats an advantage and trade off I usually would take. Its its cheap af ^^
Carbine 1865 is dominating since came out last month aint no way that rifle at C
its kinda slept on I dont see it much, although I HATE when someone has it lol its so annoying to fight its basically a higher damage centennial minus some velocity
@@shirohige9376 move quickly and you will see the carbines miss a lot.
mosin spitzer + uppercut + quickswitch that‘s the best
What's quickswitch
@@jotacep switching to your Uppercut instead of cycling the next Mosin round is faster. That technique is called quickswitch. It's quite popular in many games. "Always remember: switching to your secondary is always faster than reloading".
@@limonero8757 thanks for the tip citizen. The Emperor Protects.
Dolch FMJ>Uppercut
y u stopped being evil hornet? 😭
Big thanks for weapon names
Springfield gets dum dum. Can be a one shot
but it is only one shot. facing three enemies with a one shot weapon can get ya killed more often then facing a 3 man with a 5 -15 shot gun etc
My new favorite weapon for compounds is definitely the Crossbow with Shotbolt. You can't beat the consistency.
@@rabbyd542 love shot bolt!
I've honestly just never liked the mako. The sights dont feel good, and theres no reason to take it over the other long ammo guns. I feel like its on the same level as the berthier, but the berthier has 6 more shots and is cheaper.
The Mako can use levering (it's actually really good with levering) as well as take explosive ammo. Laugh all you want, but explosive Mako low key slaps. Normally it's a very mid ammo type, but the Mako fires fast enough (especially with levering or iron eye) to where explosive is much more efficient on it than the one shotters like Springfield/MC-1 and even the uppercut. Plus it might just be me but explosive ammo feels a little bit better in this patch, dunno if it got buffed but either way I've been doing better with it than in the past
Mako levering with explosive is actually scary in compounds@@DamianJoseph661
regular specter in S I APPROVE
Conversion in C tier 😭 that’s an easy S tier every day
@@foxft one of the best bang for buck pistols!
Did I miss something?
giga content over here!
LIT
I am newbie.
thanks for watching and hope it helps!
I strongly disagree about spectre, right know is like the worst shotgun in the game hands down: i passed hours in training and right now it has a comparable onetap to rival, which is absolute nonsense. i don't know if it's intended or not but there is zero reason to pick spectre at the moment, not to mention the bayonette version which is the only bladed shotty with even more reduced range. F tier hands down. It should be like the old school shotty where specter was juuust a little less reliable than romero. Other than that i would put lemat pistol way up cause with slugs is like the go to for compounds without quartermaster.
This ain't it. At all lmao
@@echoesact3713 thanks for watching!
Deadeye Marksmen Sniper scope sway on console makes snipers so slow they are very easy to deface with irons. Good tier list my dude. Console has it’s benefits I think 😊
So hunting bow is the best weapon in hunt gotcha.
@@Impaler722 it’s strong as all hell right now especially with how many builds can use its aoe potential