Is Sergio Ramos The Greatest Defender Of All Time?!
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- With the news that Sergio Ramos' 16 years at Real Madrid is coming to an end, following five La Liga titles, four Champions League trophies, and 671 appearances, there has been plenty of plaudits aimed in the 2010 World Cup winners direction.
Few would deny that Ramos is one of the defining defenders of his generation, but is he the greatest defender or centre-back of all time?
That's the claim made by a lot of people in recent weeks, so in this opinion piece, HITC Sevens takes a look back at Ramos' achievements, his talents, and whether he can really be bestowed with such a prestigious title.
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Had Ramos played in the 80s and 90s he would have less than 5 red cards. That sort of thuggery used to be common place in the game. He's definitely in the top 10. He's converted from RB to CB like Puyol and from defender to midfielder like Lahm. Hes just pure quality but a top villain. Sergio Thanos.
Yes most of Ramos challenges would be accepted in those times
People forget at least twice he got himself sent of on purpose
@@sircrackerjack-9592 that is just his personality
Ramos reminds me of Drogba in a lot of ways, there's plenty of little things you can point out to criticise him, but he's a leader who lead by example and always came up trumps in the big games so he'll always be remembered as a great.
I’d say hes up there, but if you’re ranking purely on defensive talent/ability, he’s not close to Maldini or others I can’t think of at the moment
He wasn't even better defensively than Chiellini, Barzagli, Vertonghen, Boateng, Godin, Alderweireld, Kompany, Pepe, VVD in their best year. Just players in the most recent era.
His leadership and goalscoring was world class but he's very overated in actual 1v1 defending. Trophies doesn't necessarily equate to full talent
@@davekurt1433 I’ll agree with this
@@davekurt1433 u haven't watched him played then
@@scarfacexxzzyt50yearsago52 Still with this bullshit of a reason. Yeah whenever people say something about this guy, it's always "You didn't watch football".
@@davekurt1433 putting vertonghen and alderweireld ahead of vidic or ferdinand and even a little mention of jaap stam
Greatest defender of all time? ❌
One of the Greatest defenders of all time? ✅
For me he's top 10 for sure, can make a pretty strong case for top 5
top 5 is 1. Maldini 2.Baresi 3. Beckenbauer 4. Moore 5. Nesta/Puyol/Ferdinand
@@Dante12466 That's your opinion & I'm fine with it. But Puyol & Ferdinand wouldn't make my top 10. I'd have players like Figueroa, Passarella, Franklin & Scirea over them. And there are also a number of fullbacks who I rate over Puyol & Ferdinand.
@@Dante12466 You're really overestimating the capabilities of Puyol and Ferdinand by placing them in an all-time top five discussion.
Lol @ you children. Ferdinand is definitely top 5 material
Ferdinand isn't even top 5 of this century, let alone of all time
Agree, ramos trophy cabinet isnt even bigger than someone like pique so trophy cabinet being used as the main reason people cite for him being the greatest defender of all time isnt even that justifiable. Requested this a while back but could you make a video on elias figueroa, possibly south america's greatest defender of all time? Won the south america player of the year 3 times in a row while the likes of Pele and Zico were active and apparently was voted fifa player of the year twice. Other feats include being named best defender at the 1974 wc despite chile exiting in the group stages. However, despite all these, he is rarely spoken outside South America and I hope you could give him some recognition.
Consistency is what will always makes Ramos better than pique. Pique after 2015 has been a shadow of himself. You can't even say that for Ramos. Every season he seems to improve and become clutch
Pique has pretty much faded. Sergio Ramos however is still in his peak. Consistency is what separates them both
@@leeking6939 Pique was only bad after 2019. Ramos hasn’t been good this seaosn
Absolutely agree, I was just providing a counterargument for those who go and define greatness based purely on trophies. Consistency is one of the main reasons why someone like maldini stands out to me as one of the greatest defenders of all time and someone like ronaldinho probably doesnt make somewhere like top 25 for me in terms of greatest of all time.
@@prometheustv6558 Ramos has been good this season actually. He has played a few games due to injury and even with that Ramos has way enviable stats than pique in comparison.
Maldini is still the greatest for me. At his peak he could score long shots, make solo runs, beat defenders, deliver pinpoint crosses, spray long balls etc. All those whilst still being a colossus in defence
Ramos may not have the long shots but he still is a Real centurion, so he could still come toe to toe with Maldini
Idk imo Beckenbauer is still #1
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Correct
I'd put Bobby Moore in as best Central Defender. Certainly for England and in top European 5 of all time
Ramos can take long kicks, free kicks, and scored in the final, scored a bicycle kick goal, good dribbling because he played at Rb, penalty,
It’s difficult because you have someone like Franz Beckenbauer who literally created a new defensive position won the Euros and made three World Cup finals with two he won as player and manager and with Ramos’ record of red cards I wouldn’t put him up there as the greatest.
You wouldn't, but I would.
@@blessingmagagula502 watch the video again until you wouldn't
He's not even in the convo. He's an awful defender with just a lot of trophies
@@joshjohnes4868 Real Madrid captain winning 4 ucl is a bad player yeah?
Franz Beckenbauer did not face the same kind of athletes defenders face today. In the old times football players had skill, talent and were great players but today football players are athletes aswell and have better physiques and are just on another level. Beckenbauer was great for his time. Maybe he wouldnt be that great in todays standards
14 minutes in, and I still thought we were still in the intro hahaha
Huge fan of the level headedness you approach these interesting topics with, as well as the sound reasoning that goes into all your points. Love the channel pal
People really have to stop conflating achievements with ability. Sergio Ramos is not the greatest defender of all time, he was just good enough to play for Real Madrid for 15 years. That indicates that he’s a top quality player, but doesn’t make him the greatest.
Why didn't Cannovaro succeed at Madrid especially when he just won the ballon dor and World Cup. Madrid is probably the biggest club in the world and no footballer stays there for 16 years without being one of the greatest of all time you think I'd Ramos didn't have crazy ability he would be at Madrid for that long. Look at the amount of greats who have failed at Madrid like Kaka whilst Ramos stayed there almost all his career
@@James_utd123 There are a million different reasons why a top class player might fail at a particular club. Perhaps if Sergio Ramos had gone to Juve he might have flopped. I’m not saying Ramos wasn’t a top class player, just that being good enough to play for Real for 15 years means that he was one of the best defenders in the world for a long time, not necessarily one of the greatest of all time. Gary Neville won eight league titles with Manchester United and was first choice right-back for about 15 years too. Over that period Man Utd we’re also one of the world’s top clubs, but I wouldn’t say Neville was anywhere close to being the greatest ever right-back.
@@nt300uk intelligence finally prevails. FACTS👍
@@James_utd123 robben technically didn't make it at Madrid, does that make him a "failure" too?
This is a very flawed logic.
@@nt300uk brilliantly said. Just to add, cannavaro was already 33 when he joined real madrid, and was pretty successful there. He was listed in the fifpro world xi in both 2006 (which he spent half of at real) and 2007.
"Beckenbauer won literally every trophy going..."
Not true - he certainly never won the FA Vase...
Ha, if my memory serves me right, I believe I said 'at Bayern Munich & with West Germany' after that, and I'm not sure either were ever eligible to compete in the FA Vase.
@@HITCSevens West Germany were regulars of the FA Vase if my memory serves me correctly
@@HITCSevens the DFB Vase then.
@@HITCSevens You also said "literally every trophy going", which did not specify only those trophies for which Bayern Munich or Germany competed... he also didn't win the Ryder Cup or the World Professional Snooker Championship...
@@nickjeffery536 I love pedantry every now and then lol
That ending speech about not having to be the best player in one position, that the important thing is the memories you leave behind for the fans was legendary!
Paolo Maldini is the greatest defender of all time. Maldini was doing at 40 what guys half his age can't and won't ever do.
Maldini is not greater than Ramos he hasn't won anything with National team despite playing with one of the most talented Italian sides of all time
@@James_utd123 Ramos is a thug not a footballer. He's not even in the top 10
@@jaiess540 no he is number one
@@climatechange9893 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 yeah right.
@@jaiess540 he's a madrid fan
The reason why maldini and other defenders from the past got less cards than Ramos,in the past soccer was more aggressive than it is today players just get touched then they diving asking for a foul
But some of Ramos challenges would be accepted it before the year 2008
Even Beckenbauer wouldn't have won a ballon dor in the messi ronaldo era
Don't be so sure.
Cap
I’ve always liked Ramos, but as a Liverpool fan, this was tainted after he forced Salah off with that professional foul. I’d rather play with him than against him. In terms of what he’s won for both Real and Spain, he’s definitely up there with the games greatest.
Bruh Salah put his arm in there. How is that Sergio's fault. Watch it again.
@@BigKahuna. He definitely didnt help.
@@1972dsrai watch the clip again.
There is a very common trend for hyperbole in sports journalism lately - it may be that claiming someone is a GOAT is a great way to get hits on the internet - just look at F1 articles comparing Hamilton to Schumacher, Senna or the myriad of drivers from the past.
I definitely agree that his temperament is a definite weakness. If I compare him to Pompey legend and one club man, Jimmy Dickinson, who also played in defence, he never earnt a single card in 764 club and 48 England appearances. Keeping yourself on the pitch is an excellent way to help your team win.
Not sure that it's entirely unfair to compare Hamilton to Schumacher and Senna given his incredible consistency and accolades. Definitely not hyperbole in that sense, but I do agree with you about the general state of sports journalism. On the other hand though, why did you click on this video?
Schumi and Hamilton both had dominating cars. Guys like Ralf Schumacher and Daniel Riccardo would have a few championships with those cars especially Mercedes George Russell proved this by dominating Sakhir before retiring which he undoubtedly would have won.
For me Its Alonso that's the goat his drives for Ferrari in 2012 and 2013 and McLaren in 17-18 and Alpine this year show his racecraft.
Schumacher and Senna are my top two. ;)
In terms of red cards we also have to take into consideration the different eras and how officating has changed in comparison. Back in the day players were allowed to get away with far more physical challenges than today. You could see this in almost every sport. Referees are quicker to hand out penalties for even minor fouls nowadays
Doesn't matter. Players need to adapt to the rules of the game. If they can't do that then they definitely aren't the greatest in their respective position. Ramos is a great but there's many CBs that have far more to their game than Ramos. I also don't think he was the most reliable CB either. Just like Vidic he lets his anger control him in a dangerous and poor way. So he's not even greatest in his own league just like Vidic also isn't the greatest in his own league. So nevermind greatest of all time period.
Not even close. Only a person who watched football starting in 2010 could even think to make such a comparison. Thats the problem with sports though, everyone obsesses over the now and forgets the past.
Bang on the money with that comment. Go through the history of football and will come nowhere near top 100.
Put him up against a classic bruising centre forward from the 70s and 80s where he he would have met his match then he would have been very, very ordinary. Good player that he is but is in an era where centre forwards are nearly extinct.
@@bernardthegwp71020 such a pretentious comment. Rather than compare him to players from an era where defenders would try break forwards legs without fearing the whistle, respect how dominant he’s been in one of the most tactically proficient eras of all time and against some of the best teams from a tactical perspective. He well deserves to be in the talk of many top defenders
@@samuelfernandez6516 if your going to say he is the best defender ever he has to be compared to other defenders from other eras Doh!
Many of the players from the 70s and 80s were not all in it to break legs, they were tough uncompromising defenders and played within the rules of the game, some did go over the top but it is a contact sport.
At least those players who did foul did it with their feet unlike Ramos who cowardly used his elbows.
John Charles from the 50s was one of the greatest defenders of all time if not thee best was tough, strong, fast and uncompromising but was never ever booked or sent off in his career.
But you wouldn't know this as you still think football was invented in 92.
@@bernardthegwp71020 why not compare how much they dominated their era. The game has evolved so far from the 50s and more is demanding tactically. What’s the point in comparing Ramos purely based off skill to John Charles when they have to play differently. Not to mention how much more sparingly cards were given in the past. Ramos not only showed up on the international stage, but held down the entire left half of Real Madrid’s defense while Marcelo played further up. He performed that role while winning 3 European cups in a row. That level of dominance in ones era has only been seen before with defenders like beckenbauer and maldini. Considering how rare that kind of dominance is its snobby and downright disrespectful to not call him top 100.
@@samuelfernandez6516 so how can he compared as the greatest defender of all time based on your theory that the game in the 50s was different.
Your argument is based on the time Ramos played the game and not much before, so seriously how can he or anyone be regarded as the best if they are only compared to practically the period they played.
When talking about the greatest in any sport you have to include everyone. Ramos has a mighty fine collection of silverware but ask yourself this? How many would he have won playing in Spains team of the 70s, to 90s, they had great individuals at the time but as a collective didnt perform same with Madrid.
Do honestly think they would have been as dominant if he had been playing for them at the time?
"Messi kicking, Puyol pushing..." 😂😂
I love double adjectives.
Personally i think Maldini or Baresi were.
No space for Cannavaro or Nesta?
@Eric Stuff Beckenbaur
Top 3 baresi, beckenbauer maldini
I’m a La liga fan, so as much as I’d love to say one of our own Maldini was better. I will put xavi is the greatest midfielder
@@michaelmonteiro7721 no one mentioned midfield tho?
Hierro scored 21 golas in season 91-92, but I think he played a lot as a midfielder that year as well.
Baresi
Beckenbauer
Maldini
Scirea
Passarella
Nesta
Hierro
..plenty I would put ahead of him, if I want my defence to be a wall that last the entire 90 minutes.
He's impressed me the last 4 seasons, but he STILL played the way he did in 2006-2013.
Amazing video Alfie! I admire and respect Ramos, he is a legend, but not even close to Maldini, Nesta, Baresi and Beckenbauer.
Not to forget Balon D'Or winner in 2006 Cannavaro
@@akhilvasudevan3989 he was great but was the best only for a very short period, especially compared with other Italian legends. His greatest achievement was the balon d'or and even then buffon deserved it more.
@@richardthepastamancer6619 He captained an ageing Italian squad to their World Cup glory after 24 years. I remember nobody gave them a real chance after their poor Euro 2004. Won the Balon D'Or as CB at 32. Buffon conceded less because he had Cannavaro in front of him.
@@akhilvasudevan3989 I'm not questioning his greatness, just the fact that probably buffon deserved the balon d'or more. IMO if Cannavaro had not been just brought by real Madrid
Lol can you name me one good team the time beckenbauer played football hahaahaha
The one problem he has is that he can get a stupid yellow or red card and break the team’s game plan
Yes, but that in the past, he gets better with age, he has been covering marcelo void, for 8+ yrs, and few of them are tactical fouls for card accumulation.
Him getting the card was the game plan
Baresi,Backenbaur,Maldini, Costacurta,Nesta,Cannavaro,Chiellini,Bergomi and a few others in recent memory are head-and-shoulders above Sergio Ramos.
Although, he is definitely in top 20.
Chiellini is great but he is not better than ramos
Idk how I feel about a defender who averages 2 red cards a season and a yellow card every other game and mistake prone to be the best DEFENDER of all time. Definitely one of the best leaders and goal scoring defenders though
Mistake prone?
Apart from his red cards Sergio Ramos almost never commits a defensive error. It's a rarity in his game
@@leeking6939 As much as I like Ramos, that’s far from true. He has made a lot of defensive errors from poor concentration in a number of la liga games
@@gaffergafferko7724 that's very untrue. If you truly follow Real Madrid games you know that he rarely commits errors he is always the one that who actually covers mistakes from Pepe, Varane and co when they were partners. He definitely does commits errors but it happens like 1 in 35 games. That is normal. No player is perfect
@@leeking6939 Ofc he’s prone to defensive errors..do you see how high he goes up the pitch to intercept passes? And ends up failing to do so, it’s Varane’s pace and stability at the back which saved Madrid so many times on such occasions.
@@miz5138 do you even watch Madrid at all?
Ramos goes high up the pitch on few occasions and ever since Casemiro has arrived in that holding position ramos barely goes up.
And by the way about half of the goals real madrid has conceded by defensive errors all came from varane since 2018!
There's a reason why everyone doesn't like Varane he makes that defence weak
Yh and another one that doesn’t get recognised is Bobby Moore. He captained England to there only World Cup and managed to captain West Ham to multiple trophies including the European cup winners cup which was a significant trophy at that time. He done all this with West Ham which were exactly the same back then as they are now. He also managed to come 3rd one year in the ballondor which (as both a defender and a West Ham player) is crazy. Players like Pele, George best and beckenbeaur all call him the greatest ever defender. I think because he didn’t play for any of the European giants (Manchester Utd, Real Madrid etc) he doesn’t get appreciated enough.
He won just 2 trophies with West Ham. Doesn't mean he wasn't one of the GOATs. Pele called him the best he had played against. His trophy cabinet had the Harry Kane syndrome.
@@palashrawat401 Teams win trophies, not individuals, don't talk shit.
16:31 Maybe the real Sergio Ramos are the friends we made along the way.
Underrated comment 😂
Having a big trophy haul says more about the teams he played for than him individually. Though he was/is an outstanding defender. But there’s no way I would put him above guys like Maldini, Baresi and Beckenbaur on an individual level.
sensible comment
were u really alive during beckebaur era?..I'm sure u haven't even seen him actually play but still rates him just because everyone else does so..if you are 18 -30 aged guy..the best defender we have seen gotta be ramos or Maldini..me choosing ramos
How does someone having seen someone play or not affect how good they were? Both Maldini and Beckenbauer were a league above Ramos.
In terms of pure skill as a defender he’s not even close to top 5, Defending isn’t about taking down opponents with cynical tackles, but since modern footballers are judged by how many trophies they have won he is a modern great!
But you honestly can’t be that naive to put him above Baresi, Costacurta or Nesta, Ramos is not even 25% of them!
Baressi da best
Ramos > Nesta and it’s not even close
@@nassimb7151 I doubt you’ve even see Nesta play
@@jeswinjames5986 I did and he sucks
@@nassimb7151 you're not funny
the greatest defender at getting red cards
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@@VishvendraSingh-go3zd My ass, he's not.
Simple answer: No, Sergio Ramos is not the best defender all time.
Recency bias.
Absolutely agreed
Agreed not even close
Agreed, Beckenbauer, Maldini, potentially Cannavaro, Baresi would be some of my best defenders but Ramos is still a legend
Ramos has won every single trophy available in football and he was captain of Madrid when they won 3 champions leagues in a row no defender is better than Ramos ever
Have anybody here saw Maldini or nesta or beckenbaur ramos is the greatest
Paolo Maldini is such a gentleman that he would agree that Ramos is best, but everyone know Paolo's the real defensive GOAT
Have to say , i appreciate the way you were pronouncing his name. It really was quite good. Not many people would attempt it once ,much less throughout the whole video
Team achievements and individual abilities are two separate things. Team achievements are contextual, individual ability is objective. Maldini is by far the best. Best left back for 15 years and then best centre back for the following 10. Great with the ball, great in the air, nearly impossible to get past, dominant on the pitch, no matter which other legends were on the pitch, with or against him. And he played (and dominated) in the best era of football, with the highest concentration of great players the sport has ever seen. Simply unmatchable
I think he is the most important and the most influential defender of all time, but I don't think he is the best.
How is he the most influential defender of all time?
@@Itonde because he scored more than 100 goals for Real Madrid and he scored some in finals that they won because of his goals
@@locasenior8229ramos is not the only defender who scored 100 goals. You can say that he is the most influential Real Madrid defender of all time but you can't say that he is the most influential defender in football history.
@Sparsh Khurana they're not given a mention? Did you not watch and listen to this video? That's all the guy did was put them 2 before Ramos.
Lol man said he is the most influential defender because he scored a lot of goals. Notice how nothing as mentioned about actual defending.
He's definitely up there. Top 10 for sure, maybe top 5, but the greatest of all time? I don't think so
Yeah beckanbaur maldini baresi and puyol are better
Baresi, Maldini, Beckenbauer, Puyol, Moore, Cannavaro, Cafu, Carlos Alberto, Passarella were all better than him imo, so he probably only just edges into the top 10
Only Maldini might be equal
@@olzinator535 Cafu, Cannovaro, Moore and Puyol better than Ramos????? Only ones I can say are maybe better are Maldini Nesta and Baresi possibly even Lahm
@@hiddeemmen no baresi puyol beckanbaur and maldini are way better
He’s up there with the Italian greats
I think he is disrespected sooo much. For a player as skilled as Ramos and as brave as he is , he deserves much more.
He puts his heart to his team. Something you can’t find in any player
Definitely not..
Maldini, Baresi, Beckenbauer etc are far better defenders..
100%
Its debateble
Beckenbauer was not that great defensively
@@asnv9070 what the fuck lmao
Puyol as well
Ramos is a dude who'll do anything to win even if it's to get his hands dirty.
Bruh….Beckenbauer played a World Cup Semifinal with a Broken freakin arm….Bandaged and all that..
@@vb2388 yeah IK but Ramos broke others arms and legs in champions League final you know what I mean
@@sujaabraham9348 😂
Only British people deny Ramos's greatness because of his narative in the media.
- Liverpool fans. Because most people who watch football see his greatness
@@James_utd123 Not Liverpool fans but British Media
For some reason Alfie has a bias towards Real Madrid players it's not the first time he undermined their accomplishments.
@@mudassirawad5533 what the... he literally mentioned all Ramos's achievement haven't you watch the video till the end? clearly you are madrid fan
@@R3in_Ch I'm not i support Chelsea but a big part of the Ramos's aura is that no team in modern football has threepeated the champions league and that wasn't even brought up once in the video, And Alfie has undermined the achievements of Real Madrid players before, I understand that he's a Messi fan boy it's quite natural for him to dislike Real Madrid.
omg u posted this on my birthday
Being only 24 years old i thought the same, that he is the greatest i have ever seen. But I think Hierro was better (defensively and he also scored more goals). But the fact that Ramos took the number 4 shirt after Hierro is poetic
Short answer:No
Long answer:Nooooooooooooo
Brilliant player though❤❤
Hey Alfie, I recommended some of your videos to my dad. He said he liked them despite not being able to understand half of what you’re saying because of your thick Yorkshire accent. He also said our family was falling apart. Cheers!
If your dad can't understand Alfie,then definitely show him an Irish guy video😂
Strong Yorkshire accent? Lol. It isn't strong at all. It's barely noticeable. Even strong Yorkshire accents are pretty easy to understand. Unlike a strong Glasweigen or Liverpudlian accent.
I’m from Bradford and I didn’t even realise Alfie was from Yorkshire ‘til I’d been watching his channel for a few months. No disrespect to the lad ‘cause he’s sound as a pound, makes great content and knows his shit but I’m sure he’d be the first to admit he is not the Yorkshire archetype
@@UncledadBFD we don’t really class East Yorkshire as Yorkshire, plus Alfie is a bit posh
Ramos was one of the main reasons of why RM won 4 UCLs. His impact on the finals was better than any other RM player by far.
1. Maldini
2. Beckenbauer
3. Baresi
4. Ramos
5. Puyol
Biased but I think he is. Even though he’s known for scoring goals, he’s one of the best defenders of his generation.
The Greatest of all Time? No in my personal opinion, because Paulo Maldini is the King for This Spot.
If Sergio Ramos "One" of the Greatest of all time, yes he deserve it.
Greatest without international trophy whilst playing with Baresi, Costacurta, Nesta, Del Piero, Totti, Pirlo and Guttaso...Just asking
James judging a player based on his international success lol
@@olzinator535 He must be a CR fan.
@@James_utd123 well in the 1994 WC Final…Costacurta wasn’t playing..
It was a young Maldini who restricted 2 of the greatest strikers in Football History (Romário and Bebeto) for a clean sheet…Italy eventually lost in a penalty shootout…which again isn’t his fault..
Judging players by Trophies won is pretty stupid…its the Performances that count not Team Achievements..
@@vb2388 Baresi not playing 1994 final? lol he was the motm of the final -> ua-cam.com/video/boPQNpPvJq0/v-deo.html
Maldini, Backenbauer, r.koman
But Ramos is not far from them
Franco Baresi?
Bobby Moore needs a shout as well. As far as center backs go he was fantastic.
Hitc sevens slightly out of context I know but can you do a why Belgians golden generation failed video be really good to see if it compares to englands
Did it fail? They equalled their best ever result in a World Cup beating a resurgent Brazil and England twice in the process, returned Belgium its status as a regular fixture and candidate in every competition and, except EURO 2016, every time they lost it was in really tight games against some of the best teams in each tournament (Argentina in 2014, France in 2018, Italy in 2021). Plus, they still have next year's World Cup ahead, with Lukaku and de Bruyne at the very peak of their powers, so it's not even over for them.
@@santiagobauza4257 It failed. They had one of the best teams in both EURO 2016 and WC 2018. Couldn't win either, the only team that was maybe better than them was France.
@@specialperson335 but there is the problem, you eventually conceded that Belgium “maybe” wasn’t *the* best team. There can only be one winner every 2 years between the Euros and World Cup after all.
Either way, I think the talk of a video for Belgium’s “failure” is a bit premature as many of the current squad could realistically still be playing until the end of Euro 2024, they could still win a tournament in that time.
@@santiagobauza4257 exactly. If we told Belgians between 2004-2012 that they would earn bronze medals in 2018, they would snatch our hands off!
In terms of trophies maybe. But in terms of individual ability he is far from the best defender of all time
No. Couldn't lace Maldini's boots.
Next question.
You tell 'em brother👍
Couldn't lace boots ok Maldini can clean ramos world Cup euros ucl titles best defender awards
@@climatechange9893 Ucl and world cup won by one guy?
@@R3in_Ch don't say he didn't play any important role he played winning defining role in all titles he competed
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He would be my pick if I had to take one person.
Even as a Madrid Fan, I don't think Ramos is the greatest defender of all time, but I do think he's definitely in the top 5 or 10 of all-time.
Gloryhunter
Go support your local club band wagon
@@MATTHEWMYTHHAVEN The Rice and Curry news team. Come on bruh.
Best Defender of all time and one of the most clutch players ever. Only Maldini comparable to him in terms longevity. A true leader and captain
I don't know why we always want to compare people who are impossible to compare. Last Minute Ramos is one of the most valuable players in the history of the sport. I've said before if I had my life depending on the actions of a single player I'd quite possibly take Ramos, hoping he wouldn't get a silly red.
For me he is the GOAT in terms of best defenders. With such consistency at that level, there is no doubt to me. His skills at defending combined with his skills with the ball, his smashing power at headers with that size and how much he sacrifices himself for his clubs should be enough to see him up there.
What defending skills lol? he was an average defender.
love ur videos .. u r perhaps the best football UA-cam channel of all time ... !!
Amazing video as always
I love the way Alfie answers such questions.
Di maria was named motm in 2014 final not ramos.
I love players like Ramos who can grab a game by the scruff of the neck, showing another level of passion and ferocity to fight for the team. I think aura is important too, like you mentioned. So even if he isn't the best defender ever, that team he was a key part of during the last 10-15 years, alongside the other icons like Ronaldo, will forever be legendary.
He doesnt do that though he gets angry and throws a strop amd gets sent off if a defender let alone captain is willing to get sent off for 2 games every season for 15 years they are shit simple as a defender and leader that is truly good would not risk his team 2 games for his own feelings hes a man child nothing more
No
Simply for covering the whole left flank whilst Marcelo played as an auxiliary winger probably puts him firmly into the conversation alone. I'd have him in my top 5-7 but certainly the greatest UCL defender of all time (tied with Maldini)
On sole defensive ability I think there’s 2-3 players better than him but he’s probably the most all round gifted player to have played CB imo
agree
2 or 3? More like 20 or 30.
That ESPN Extra Time segment about Kante being the best defender of the century is basically a banter show. That title was referencing a viewer-submitted question that they put because they thought it would get clicks.
They didn't discuss that. Some idiot asked a question and the ESPN producer put the question in. Nobody really thinks that pal. It was to get interactions from people like u
Ramos is legend
Didn't realize maldini didn't win World Cup
He is still my 🐐 defender
Ramos is so overrated because he scores lots of goals and because of his trophy cabinet. Pique has a bigger trophy cabinet doesn’t make him the best does he.
You're actually right pique has a pl title which Ramos doesn't have
@@daryldgrassa37 Also he has 3 more league titles, 5 more Copa Del Reys, and they have the same amount of UCLs.
Ramos is clear of Pique and Puyol
@@James_utd123 Pique but definitely not Puyol
Barca fan pique is no way near ramos even in defending I bet you are just some regular UA-cam watching kids
No, how can you be the goat defender when defending is what you are least good at? He is a really good player but not the best defender ever lmao
1. Beckenbauer 2. Maldini 3. Baresi 4. Moore 5.Fachetti
Top 5 undoubtedly
No he is not
Franz beckenbauer 🥳
For me he's somewhere near top 10, but he will never be at the same level as Elías Figueroa and Daniel Passarella
Does anyone think that Maldini was better? Ramos is a really good defender but I just want to see if anyone has a different opinion, I am a bit impartial to this.
Yes. The answer is yes
Loved the video!
Maldini is still the greatest
He is the 5th best defender of all time behind
Beckanbaur
MALDINI
Baresi
And puyol
Puyol 😂
For me the likes of Costacurta, Maldini, Nesta, Stam, Beckenbauer, Hierro, M. Sanchis, Beppe Bergomi, Walter Samuel, D Agger or R Ferdinand are that lil bit better buuut Ramos is among some of the all time greatest defenders yea :)
"Tendency to blur the line between aggression and down right recklessness"
Of course they wouldn't. They would all be in the hospital.
Ah, so that's why this is called the beautiful game!
But it cant those players where still modest when it came to it ramos get angry to the point where he let's it get to him and in his head a defender let alone captain should not be sent off almost 2x a season a defender and captain thats willing to risk losing 2 games a season for 15 years in the league alone for the sake of throwing a strop like ramos does is a shit defender
@@user-op6kt8pg9y The result achieved by his club and country prove your argument to be invalid. Nobody over the same time period has won more trophies.
@@jamesmccreery250 complete lie there's lots of players who have won more trophies since ramos debut boating another defender being one of them
He should be, but some of his antics, stupid media narratives and people being naive and not looking past his behaviour he won’t be considered it. There’s too many critics wether their jealous fanboys of other clubs or players or someone who doesn’t like the fact he can be aggressive. He is but will never get that respect
I don't think his antics and behaviour will count for much. Look at Zidane for example, pretty hot headed, headbutted players 2-3 times and was over all considered a dirty player like Ramos was. Same with Totti. But people remember them as being elegant, and some of the most technically gifted players rather than for their behaviour. Zidane now is pretty much the opposite of when he was a player, much calmer than when he was a player
@@user-cg2tb9or2l I agree he is much calmer nowadays but he does have discipline issues like getting alot cards back in the days. I think its fair to say that he is ALL ROUND Great defender cuz he can do almost anything including offensive in setpiece
@@user-cg2tb9or2l I know it didn’t used to but I feel people hate Ramos more then previous aggressive and dirty players.
in terms of ability and performance levels i don't even think you can honestly say ramos is even the best spanish centre back of the 21st century, let alone the best defender of all time. The thing that makes ramos a legend of the game is more his trophies, leadership, loyalty and particularly some of the huge goals he's scored over the years.
Franz Beckenbauer was the best defender of all time
Maldini >>
Good opinion I think Maldini's one of the greatest but I prefer Beckenbauer
@@revilo7481 Maldini and baresi are probably the closest but even to them I'd always pick Beckenbauer. Not only was he an amazing defender like the other 2 but his impact is unlike any other defender I think which sets him apart from the rest
@@The_Duude99 I agree I think Beckenbauer changed the center back role and is a all round better player
This was an amazing video
He’s fantastic player, but average defender. A bunch of mistakes and rude style.
I believe he would be one of the best box to box of all time if he played in the middle.
Huge fan of your content! Please could you do a 23 man GB Squad excluding English Players
Best German players in the premier league of all time. (Day 142)
Also I don't care if you consider this spam. I'm doing this for too long, I'm not giving up now.
If you don't believe my number, just go back to the previous videos. I'm at the bottom most of the time, but I'm there.
Greatest at winning Trophies. Yes. Greatest defender of all time in terms of ability. No.
Maldini, Baresi, Scirea, Beckembauer, Bobby Moore, Canavaro, Thuram, Nesta, Cabrini, Etc are better quality defenders. Just haven’t won as much.
old head moment
For me beckenbauer,maldini and baresi are peak.Ramos is better of the rest debatible.Tbh can't decide between passarella,Figueroa,desailly and Ramos
Definitely in the discussion, but I’d say he’s behind Beckenbauer and maldini
He's definitely in the top 10 - 20.
@LEOMESHI you know there’s a thing called footage right?
@LEOMESHI no, there’s documented footage of entire matches, there’s also statistics which don’t lie, you don’t have to watch every single thing they do to make an informed decision
@LEOMESHI So you are going to discount the ability of EVERY single footballer and football era because you didn't see them play? That ridiculous
@LEOMESHI Imagine your kids talk about Messi like this lol
How tf do many of you guys think he fant defend....🙄🙄🙄I have no words...in 11/12 he registered 4.7 tackles/interceptions per match 4.5 clearances...1 block..dribbled passed 0.25...in 12/13 4.3 tackles/interception..5.4 clearances...0.5 blocks per match...dribbled passed jst 0.35...in 13/14 again 4.6 tackles/interception..4.5 clearances..0.5 blocks...dribbled passed jst 0.3...in 14/15 4.2 tackles/interceptions...4 clearances..blocks 0.8...dribbled passed 0.7 per matches..in 15/16 4.8 tackles/interceptions....3.5 clearances...blocks 0.9...0.3 times dribbled passed...per match...in 16/17 3.7 tackles/interceptions...3.5 clearances...blocks 0.5...0.6 dribbles passed... per match..in 17/18 3.4 tackles and interceptions...3.2 clearances...0.5 blocks...dribbled passed jst 0.3...per match....in 18/19 2.9 tackles and interceptions...3 clearances...0.5 blockes..0.6 dribbled passed...per match...in 19-20 2.7 tackles/interceptions...2.9 clearances...0.4 blocks...0.6 dribbled passed. Per match...in 20-21 his last ssn at real...2.5 tackles/interceptions...2.7 clearances...0.3 dribbled passed...0.3 blocks per match..put that in context...in 19/20 premier league winning ssn...VVD had 1.7 tackles/interceptions...4.3 clearances...0.4 blocks...0.2 dribbled passed...per match....
Great vid. Abso spot on analysis imo. The man has heart and skill in equal measure. PSG are getting exactly what they have needed for ever. This is the upgrade on Thiago Silva they have needed.
The greatest CB of all time has to be Beckenbauer for me. Apart from the brilliant defending, he also has that ability to progress with the ball into the midfield and even continue the play into the opponent's box, creating superiority and making it a lot easier for the midfielders and the attackers. There were other CBs with this ability, most recently Hummels or Pique in their younger days, but none of them at the level of Beckenbauer. Not to mention his long passes...
As for the greatest overall defender, I'd go with Maldini. He's the only defender to contest the title of the greatest on 2 different positions: CB and LB. To make a comparison, Ramos is surely among the greatest CBs, not too far from the very best in terms of defending. But as a RB, he's nowhere near the likes of Cafu or Lahm. You could argue there are better LBs than Maldini in the history of the sport, but nobody is "way ahead" of him.