Holland's Ronald Koeman professional foul vs England (1993)
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- Опубліковано 12 жов 2015
- 13th October 1993. WC USA '94 Qualification match in Rotterdam, Netherlands.
Barcelona's Ronald Koeman, aka Rambo, foul David Platt and show how you should do a professional foul, avoiding a penalty.
Ok, referee forgot the rules and punish him with only a yellow card.
Add insult to injury, Koeman scored with a freekick and eliminated England from USA 1994 World Cup
This has haunted me since I found out about it 30 seconds ago
😂
Whose here for karma 😂
Me😂
It was a lot harder for the referee in low resolution days. They could barely see what was happening.
When you play a perfect through ball to your teammate but he's 16-bit and the ball bounces erratically off his pixelated foot and into row Z. Those were the days.
You do realise that real life back then looked exactly the same as it does now?
It was only TV’s that had low resolution.
@i_know_youre_right_but Nah man, I was alive back then and I can confirm life was 800x600 pixels, 256 colours
@@lanodramallama are you being serious🤦🏻♂️ you are either a troll or seriously deluded.
When I was 5 I thought the world in my grandparents time was black and white because of the old movies, because I was a dumb kid.
@@i_know_youre_right_but you numpty 🤣
We tend to forget that prior to the Koeman incident , the Netherlands scored a good goal that was wrongly disallowed.
I'm here because the English press asked Gakpo about this controversy.
Cody Gakpo, as in, born in 1999 Cody Gakpo?
Sameeee😂
😂
Same😅
I’m here cos we Watkins just dumped the Dutch out and we finally got revenge for this on koeman! 🤣🤣🤣
Isn’t karma beautiful (here after the Euro 2024 semi final)
Yes, that's why Spain won
Well, England would have beaten the Netherlands anyway.
We've just beaten the Dutch in a Euro semi-final after getting a penalty that never should have been. Finally, justice for Taylor!
who was this not a penalty?
@@markmeloni2388 Dumfries just tried to block the shot of Kane. Kane kicked the ball and then Dumfries' foot. Gerry Neville (former defender of Manchester United and England national football team) called this penalty against the Dutch an absolute disgrace. Nevertheless I think that England's win was deserved. Just as the victory of Spain in the final against England was well deserved.
@@CornelisJoh That's because Gary Neville doesn't actually understand the IFAB laws. Technically, it was indeed a penalty, although refs often won't call a contact foul in the area that takes place after the shot has already been hit. It's quite unusual to see, which is why so many people got it wrong (they assumed it wasn't a foul).
Karma never ever shows up when you expect it to. It might've taken 30 odd years, but Koeman got his today.
KARMA.
Took 31 Years but England are in the final now.
Got one back over Koeman tonight for that penalty
firstly, it was not a penalty...secondly was, 100 per cent, sending off
Exactly right. If you slow it down yes the foul was just outside the box, but it was a CLEAR sending off. He was the last man.
Spot on but don’t forget Kluivert had a perfectly valid goal disallowed in the first half...
Shane T it was Rijkaard,Kluivert was a 15 year old kid at the time
Rick Oneill similarly in the game between England and Holland at Wembley earlier that year, overmars was first fouled by des walker ten yards outside the box but decided to go down when he reached the area
@@andrewyoung1652 still should not have thrown away 2:0 goal disadvantage..
I'm here because Koeman saying we should have never had a penalty.........Karma me thinks
Well, 10th July 2024 we have revenge! Netherlands(managed by Ronald Koeman) 1 - England 2!!!
So you are telling me that 30 years later the English press are still upset about this? Enough to bother current Dutch squad players that were not even born then? WOW 😂😂
Football grudges last longer than grudges over wars.
No, Koeman is now the Dutch manager.
WOW 😉😉
Koeman is the manager and guess what, justice has finally been served
@@bluesEvanskroHow has justice been served? We got the maximum result out of a fairly poor squad. You needed a penalty to get even, and a lucky 90+1 minute goal. You haven't won anything or reached a WC final in the last 58 years. Lmao.
Ahh, Euro 24...revenge.
What the English always leave out during their whining about this moment: before this happened a clear goal from Frank Rijkaard was denied (not offside)
K A R M A
Ronald Korman would do well to watch this today. 😁
That decision is completely unbelievable
It should have been a red. But those things happened all the time. Look at the joke of a penalty England got vs the Dutch.
@@Jose-sy1jewas a pen
Can’t do a studs up block
@@danh555 You would have gotten a free kick for that in midfield back in the day. But never a penalty. Refs had some discretion and just would not have given it for contact after a missed shot.
A very professional player and a very unprofessional referee.
This has always haunted me ever since I watched it happen live 27 years ago.
Me too mate 👍
Refereeing standards haven't improved
lmao
The fact it is still a thing for you guys. Even tho I'm Dutch, I really hope England will play attractive soccer this evening! Hoping for a really nice match with daring and trying instead of fear and defense.
Have you tried therapy?
How David Seaman avoided criticism for that positioning on the Koeman free kick. Absolute crime, what is he doing. Then he lets the 2nd under him. But that first goal, that should be more infamous than the Ronaldinho lob. Goodness
I remember at the time watching him thinking why is he too far over literally inviting that shot. If we couldn't beat Norway home or away we didn't deserve to go to USA94
Redemption!!!
REVENGEEEEE HAHAHAHAHA
Justice for Graham Taylor 31 years later.
koeman got something to remember tonight ,
Jimmy Greaves in the studio said “Platt went down like a wet lettuce and Koeman should’ve had to climb on his back to bring him down in a situation like that”. I’m going with that.
Jimmy Greaves was a bitter alcoholic.
Still they cry... come on...
This scene made me cry harder than Bambi’s mother dying, and it’s almost as old as that scene. 😭😭😭🤣
RIP Graham Taylor, lost him today...
God Bless the man....and
Koeman lost his job today.
Karma!
A lost to the game indeed. A great man but sadly didn't work with England but the job is poisoned chalice anyway.
I wonder how many England fans who are now singing Taylor's praises since he passed where the same ones hounding him and giving him hell out 24 years ago.
Really was one of the worst ref decisions of all time. Terrible, then on top of that the ref changes his mind where the free kick is from.
We have our revenge now with the Kane penalty.
Am I crazy for seeing no penalty. Its def outside the box. Dark red card though.
Wow. So this is still a thing in England? WOW.
This documentary is old as hell.
Yeah it's still a really big thing. Failure to qualify for USA '94 will remain a significant event in the history of the F. A at least until England win a World Cup again, hopefully in USA '26.
That’s….. kinda sad.
Are you kidding????
If it was the other way around?
Sort of , it ranks up there with maradonas cheat , plus lamps goal that was in by a mile, both sols goals , saka being fouled in two majors at crucial times , the list goes on . I so hope we revenge ron in the second half.as EDIT . Get innn Ollie that blonde man should not be smiling 😊
What goes around, comes around :-)
Karma struck Ronald Koeman in the semifinal between England Netherlands😂
😂 hardly touches him... never in a 100 years a penalty
First time I’ve seen this that ref is having a mare!!
Ronald Karma
Aye, it was right off the area but 100% red card. A Scotsman (me) says this so treasure that. ;-)
Ronald Koeman be like: I should win the semi-final and get a red card myself before the game ends
This is wonderful.
Cry now!
DANCE NOW DANCE NOWWWW HAHAHA
I've decided to refer to England as 'Essex' instead, for as long as the English keep referring to the Netherlands as 'Holland'.
What do you mean, I've seen Hop Holland posters in the Netherlands
Irrelevant, rubbish country. Where no one speaks Dutch anyway as it’s a useless language. Who care if it’s called Holland or Netherlands it’s a meaningless place full of meaningless people anyway
@@db1816 That's because my compatriots are a bunch of idiots.
Every dutchman I know calls it holland
What Koeman did was not very nice, but the English dive would have probably won Gold at any Olympics Aquatics event...
Definitely a dive, rugby players stay on their feet with stronger contact than that one
A clear Rijkaard goal in the same match was disallowed. And England could have won those matches against Norway to qualify.
It doesn't change the piss poor refereeing in this match.
@@SpeccyHorace Its still a sending off even for the Rijkaard disallowed goal..The one does not shape the decision over Koeman...
Disallowing the Rijkaard goal in the 41st minute was as a wrong decision just as bad as was not giving Koeman a red card in the 57th minute. Frank Rijkaard did not stand even closely in an offside position ua-cam.com/video/Sn_kRxgphEE/v-deo.htmlm33s
At the end the narrstor says this can't make top spot....wat was the top spot?
To be fair the foul started outside the box, definitely a red though
Holland should have had a goal earlier in the game as Rijkaard was well onside.
Karma! England beat the Netherlands in the Euro semi-final on 10 July 2024, helped by a very soft penalty awarded against the Dutch, whose manager happens to be Koeman. Hard luck Ronald, what goes around comes around.
Loved it 😅😅😅 do I not ...like that!!!!!😅😅
Tbh the contact happened a foot before the penalty box platt went over inside the box so in my eyes the ref got it spot on.. if var was to check that today they would give a free kick
Every time I see Koeman, I think of this whole game and my bitter disappointment, almost loathing for Koeman. Didn't realise he'd apologised at the time but still, it wrecked England's chances of qualification in 94.
Wasn't Rijkaard's goal incorrectly ruled offside? They could have still hung on for the win. Seemed like a free-kick, not a penalty, so wouldn't have been 1-1.
+izdatsumcp
theNetherlands got a penalty in the Wembley game to scrape a 2-2 draw in the same qualifying campaign which was a similar "was is or wasn't inside the box" decision but they got the pen!.....even after not sending off Koeman here and after England didn't get a pen England's free-kick was taken and the wall didn't allow anywhere near 10yards and was blocked but was NOT allowed to be re-taken....where as Koeman (who should've been sent off earlier) scored from a RETAKEN free-kick, why was it re-taken? because the ref allowed theNetherlands a re-take despite England allowing more yards than theNetherlands had earlier which wasn't allowed to be retaken.....No point in trying to justify it, it was bad officiating and also no point in Oscy saying England wouldn't have done anything at the WC. They got to the semi's the previous WC....Portugal Euro2016 finished bottom half of their group behind Hungary and Iceland and they went on to win the competition (albeit with a fluky route to the final which they didn't deserve having massively underachieved in that mediocre group) because if you're in it you can still win it and that WorldCup had the same format as Euro2016 did so pretty much any team who qualified had a big enough chance of having a good run in the competition and you never know maybe even better....I'm not saying it would've been a WC win but I don't like when people say "it wouldn't have happened" when you don't know. All we know for sure is this was bad officiating and that's all we're talking about really.
Fantastic post, dcvnhtrdf, it wasn't just that decision, the referee really did "get him the sack", as Graham said so at the time. Terrible decisions. And we were unlucky with the Des Walker last minute foul which was outside the box but the player dived into the box and fooled the ref, in a crucial game, which we should have won as well.
In this game it should have been the other way around England's free kick (which should have been a penalty), should have had to be retaken, and theirs was ok, I think. Ince got wrongfully booked.
If we go to another game as well I remember Rooney doing a similar thing in a game against Russia and it should have been a free kick, but the ref gave a penalty, it seems England don't get a lot of luck in crucial games.
the ref lost his job after this at international level.
It was other results like drawing in Poland and losing against Norway at Oslo as a well as drawing against them at Wembley which put paid to our qualification hopes. If those results didn't happen, it wouldn't have came to this. And people forget that Holland had a clearly onside goal disallowed. The referee was awful that night for both sides. I'm sorry but Holland were the better team who could simply make their own luck and more importantly keep possession with the ball while England as usual either gave it away or lumped it up-field.
looks outside of the box to me. Should have been a red though
Revenge is sweet.
Legend Koeman. Turnip in tears
Does anyone no the name of this narrator ?
Stephen Bonutto I think it's Bill Nighy.
Groomin Koomin had it coming 2024..
As Louis van Gaal would say, claiming this is: ‘Dragging old cows out of the ditch’
But here you are 😂
Koeman got his karma. Good
Do Dutch tears taste sweeter than english ones?
VAR has improved ridiculous wrong decisions like this …. Penalty red card …. Though Taylor great club manager was awful managing England
It was actually outside the box tho
Unbelievable
Did Platt handle the ball when he chested it down?
Paul88888 7 no. He doesn't let the ball run all the way across him, he controls it with basically the middle of his chest
Now it's the other way around😂😂😂
Should be off the field, then scores. That has to hurt. If he hadn't scored I doubt anyone would have been that bothered.
WOW
So what’s the difference between this foul and Des Walker against Marc Overmars at Wembley? They are pretty much the same except for the out come. Holland gets a penalty and England do not.
Wah still crying 20 years later 🤪🤣
@@ivnarc6430 30 years, not 20 years.
2 lots of bad refereeing is not karma it is official incompetence, good luck Spain in the final against a terrible England team
A different perspective on that incident: ua-cam.com/users/shortsnhu1Xwl7z6A
One of the most appalling refereeing decisions ever, absolute stone wall penalty and totally clear cut, utterly beggars belief, unless the corrupt FIFA were pulling strings again?
I think it was just a bad decision by the ref, the same way the linesman disallowed Rijykaard's goal in the first half when he was clearly 2 metres onside.
he fell to ground like a dying swan just like kane did again tonight rolling over 3x whilst looking at the ref. Pathetic cheats but somehow blaming other nations. The English are the worst singing its coming home. the irony
@@braller1 Koeman karma 😎👍
Yes, sweet revenge...harry kane 2024😂
Netherlands* not Holland, lad
Koeman, cheat. How many times have cheats prospered against England . When have we won a major match with cheating like that?
Here for the comments 😂
They didn't want England fans rioting at the 1994 USA Finals.... Simple as that
Not sure there would have been any riots in the USA... England hooligans didn't/don't tend to venture beyond Europe.
In a way a blessing England didn't qualify for USA 94 as it was a farce of a world cup. I didn't care or give a damn about southern Ireland as they are nothing to do with us. No British representatives at USA 94 a shite world cup tournament. England bounced back and refreshed for euro 96. Since 1993 England have only failed to qualify for European championship 2008. Every other tournament we have been there.
@@robicenco1Also, American police are all armed. Very few European countries had regular armed police back in those days.
Hi there do u believe on God, thanks for the vid btw.
Redemption
Yeah just forget to mention that two teams could qualify but Norway of all countries was on top of the league. It wasn't just this one foul that made you miss the world cup Mr. Platt.
Actually, it was. If England had beaten Holland in that match then they would have qualified.... and Holland would have stayed at home. Koeman knew this. This was the next to last match in the group to be played. England's next, and final match, was against San Marino. The score was 0-0 when Koeman fouled Platt. As Platt said himself, 1-0 up and playing against 10 men would have given England a commanding position. OK - it wasn't a penalty, but Koeman was the Dutch skipper and sweeper..... and their specialist free-kick taker. Remind me again how Holland scored their first goal.
Want to be reminded how Holland scored their first goal? Rijkaard scored their first goal in the first half, and it was disallowed eventough he was miles onside.
Penalty? It was clearly out the box
To be fair it was not a penalty.
Koeman's hair doesn't match with red😂
Was this the match Koeman broke Gascoigne's cheekbone as well?
I think Wouters did it.
You're right. Just googled it. Happened 6 months prior at Wembley too
Gotta feel for Graham Taylor. He got treated appallingly by the British media at the time for not qualifying. The Koeman incident was not his fault and had he been sent off then England would have probably gone through. R.I.P. Graham Taylor
I’ve just picked up on this clip via You Tube. I had The Privilege just short of 10 Years ago now of interviewing Graham Taylor for a series of films I was making about The Wolves In The 1950s. Mr Taylor used a tactical advisor at Watford called Wing Commander Charles Reep. Reep had advised Stan Cullis at The Wolves in the 50s.
I spoke to Graham Taylor numerous times on the phone after that over about 2 years or so.
He Was A Thoroughly Decent Man. Trust Me HE WAS !!!!!!
I Feel Priveleged To Have Known Him Even Just A Bit.
It Hearts My Soul When People Criticise Him.
He was a TOP TOP BLOKE !!!! TRUST ME , HE WAS .
*English media
I think the rule was new at that time.
It’s clear Platt dived there, he wanted to milk a penalty. Just go and see Lomu staying on his feet despite numerous defenders trying to fell him. Koeman merely touched Platt and no reason to fall.
😂😂 whatever.
Nonsens. Rijkaard got a clear goal dissalowed for offside which it wasn’t. Fact was, the dutch had more individual class on the pitch!
What goes around comes around. Eat ****
If you guys used your eyes you'd see he fell 1 step before the 16m
And Koeman really don't touch him much at all.
Sorry but this is just English crying for nothing...
Game of liars and cowards. Damn
When you hear about corruption in football, you naturally dismiss it as conspiracy nutjob stuff, but watching this, you almost start to believe. How this wasn't a red card beggars belief. Hmm.
There's nothing worse in football than a ref that ruins a perfectly fairly played match
#LegendaryLoLz
#DoINotLikeThat
#TurnipHead
#TheyreGoingHomeTheyreGoingHome
#TheresOnlyOneRonaldKoeman
England were robbed that night.
Yes but so was Holland in a way. Another big problem is that England just couldn't keep the ball to save their lives and couldn't defend when need to, where Holland could do those two things.
karma
Bent ref!!!!
What controversy? Should we only remember the seccond big mistake of the referee? Why?
Holland way before Koemans foul should have been 1-0 up. A perfect goal of Rijkaard was judged offside. As one can clearly see in the replay no less than 3 defenders where keeping Rijkaard onside! So if we talk about "should". Holland should have been 1-0 up and I would say Koeman would have never touched Platt! So strangely enough we only talk about the seccond big mistake of the referee. Go look at the footage Holland was 1-0 up that changes everything.
Bad luck on getting dumped out of the Euros 😂
We should also remember that cheating Dutch captain taking out Paul Gasgoigne when England were were two up at Wembley. No red card either. Karma indeed through the penalty awarded against Holland was arguably technically correct.
Tons of stupidity and ignorance on this thread, to match that from prat Platt in the video. England did NOT need to win, they needed to avoid defeat. It was the Dutch who, effectively, had to win given that England had much the easier final match lined up, -v- San Marino. Had this Holland-England match ended in a draw, England would have qualified on goal difference. Yes, Koeman should have been sent off, yes he would not have scored that crucial first goal. But where you eliminate one injustice you must eliminate another: Holland still win 2-0 courtesy of Bergkamp and, wait for it, Frank Rijkaard who had had a perfectly legitimate goal ruled out for offside in the first half. Platt, you need a memory transplant.
PLATT IS A WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT
This reminds me of the comments after the 2020 (2021) final, with claims that Chiellini should have received a red card (he didn't), whilst forgetting everything that happened in the previous match against Denmark.
If anyone wants to complain about the Netherlands (please stop calling it 'Holland'), complain about Nigel de Jong's karate kick in the World Cup final, or the Battle of Nuremberg against Portugal, or the most 2022 World Cup quarter final against Argentina.
It was stone wall red card nobody would disagree with that....but never a penalty the foul started outside the box, Platt you're clutching
Yes starts outside continues inside - not sure what the laws say but could accept the free kick decision.