Netherlands 2-0 England (1993) WCQ

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  • England's World Cup qualification hopes are dealt a shattering blow as they lose 2-0 away to Holland in October 1993. In what is effectively a winner takes all clash, Graham Taylor is left furious with the referee over his failure to send off Ronald Koeman for hauling down a goalbound David Platt - Koeman going on to put the Dutch ahead before Dennis Bergkamp settles it. Earlier Holland's Frank Rijkaard had controversially had a goal ruled out for offside. England's only hope of qualifying would now be if the Dutch lost away to Poland and they thrashed San Marino in the final game.
    (Properly watching this match for the first time in over 20 years, I'd forgotten just how open this game actually was given so much was at stake. England carved out several decent opportunities and the Dutch, with flying wingers Overmars and Roy, always looked dangerous going forward - that save in the second half by David Seaman to deny Rijkaard from point blank range was tremendous but ultimately long since forgotten due to the result).

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  • @amandacerasale4679
    @amandacerasale4679 Рік тому +14

    I can remember watching the game with my late parents RIP and I was feeling very sick so you can imagine a sick bucket for me and two caring parents all watching the football at the same time.

  • @shaniosdorp
    @shaniosdorp 5 років тому +87

    Wow!! Those were the days when legends like Bergkamp,Overmars, Rijkaard and Koeman were the pride of Dutch football!!

    • @Dante-vf4sd
      @Dante-vf4sd 2 роки тому +1

      Yes and not as good as they could with Van Bastien and Gullit not playing

    • @jonblazeinc
      @jonblazeinc 2 роки тому +4

      @@Dante-vf4sd crazy if Gullet never fell out with management he would have still been playing for Orangé into the WC 1994

    • @robertcottam8824
      @robertcottam8824 Рік тому +7

      That England side was dreadful wasn't it? Dorigo and Palmer.....😩

  • @watcher8055
    @watcher8055 3 роки тому +38

    I’m from Liverpool, England. This was the first match I ever watched in full. I was 9 years old, nearly 10. Nobody else I knew was into football, so I had to do it all myself. What a match to start on eh? 28 years ago…. Crazy.

  • @Dead-Ball-Situation
    @Dead-Ball-Situation 4 місяці тому +7

    This is nonsense. Netherlands had a perfectly good goal disallowed and he's complaining about the Platt incident? This is EXACTLY why we needed VAR because these were not isolated incidents. Quite often at this level you'd see poor offside decisions given.

    • @si4632
      @si4632 4 місяці тому +2

      And some clowns think var should be scraped lol

  • @JoeWizzard
    @JoeWizzard 10 років тому +96

    I watched this as an 11 year old with my Dad. When I asked him 'Dad, is football always like this?' He simply replied 'Basically, yes'.

    • @saadkhatib3456
      @saadkhatib3456 6 років тому +12

      JoeWizzard if your an England fan then the answer is always 'YES!'

    • @alphabarre9096
      @alphabarre9096 6 років тому

      Carlos Vazquez freak lol 😂😁😂

    • @Bermondseybites
      @Bermondseybites 6 років тому

      Can vouch for that as a Newcastle United fan....

    • @gerardritzer
      @gerardritzer 6 років тому

      from the moment the dutch reinvented the game

    • @rensbenders1537
      @rensbenders1537 6 років тому +2

      I was watching this game as a 13 year old boy with my father. I remembered this game as England being the better team.

  • @OgaSammy
    @OgaSammy 4 роки тому +16

    Great commentator. He understood the game

    • @movieman203
      @movieman203 4 місяці тому +1

      The legendary Brian Moore

  • @tonygunk8261
    @tonygunk8261 3 роки тому +17

    "He's gonna flick one now."
    The late great brian moore had been watching the dutch in training the day before and saw koeman practising freekicks. He knew from the run up what he was going to do.

    • @tectorama
      @tectorama 6 місяців тому +1

      Brian Moore was my favourite commentator.

    • @neilfleck4178
      @neilfleck4178 4 місяці тому

      Rijkaard well onside

    • @alwilfrid
      @alwilfrid 3 місяці тому

      I think from Koeman's more pedestrian movement towards the ball, most of us thought he was going to 'flick one' instead of hammering it to the top right hand corner like he had tried for the first effort - Seaman must have been expecting a top right hand corner shot and positioned himself for that.

  • @kailashpatel1706
    @kailashpatel1706 8 років тому +57

    RIP Graham Taylor...

    • @raymondmcmenemy303
      @raymondmcmenemy303 4 роки тому +7

      Yes. He was an excellent manager and a hell of a nice guy.

  • @GreaterEthio
    @GreaterEthio 5 років тому +17

    I was 9 watching this game at my grandparents, gutted we lost, first real footballing disappointment knowing we weren't going to the world cup.

  • @horusheresy6949
    @horusheresy6949 6 років тому +12

    Can't remember much about this game but watching it again brings back a lot of memories of these days. The greatest stadium in the Netherlands 'De Kuip' in Rotterdam, still not renovated. De Goey at goal, even John de Wolf in orange. Pretty amazing.

    • @wernervon5508
      @wernervon5508 3 роки тому

      Feyenoord!

    • @The.Baron.Keysham
      @The.Baron.Keysham Рік тому

      Player for player the Netherlands were better than us. Some of our players should never have been close to an England shirt. Sinton, Palmer are the two obvious ones. Seaman at fault for the second goal. Those shots must be saved at international level.
      A dark period for Englif football

  • @marvinbrando722
    @marvinbrando722 3 роки тому +8

    In those years, to quantify to the WC, was so tough

  • @manuelgutierrezriffo3163
    @manuelgutierrezriffo3163 5 років тому +16

    🇨🇱🇳🇱 Gigantes del fútbol mundial. Merecen ser Campeones del mundo por todos sus logros. Tengan fé hermanos Holandeses que un día serán los Campeones de mundo. Viva Holanda y Viva Chile !!!! 🇨🇱🇨🇱🇨🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱

    • @markcusack6335
      @markcusack6335 Рік тому

      It may be too late, football, sadly, has regressed, effort and hard work having overtaken skill and intelligence. The “pressing” tactics so prevalent in modern football are suffocating the game. The denial of time and space, allied to increased fitness levels, mean the best players being either discouraged or constantly thwarted in attempts to display their skills. The great international teams of the last fifty years - West Germany (1972), Netherlands (1974), Yugoslavia (1976), both Brazil and France (1982), Russia (1986), and Spain (2010), are but endearing, albeit distant, memories.

  • @Paul_Lucas
    @Paul_Lucas 3 роки тому +64

    Rijkaard literally three yards onside and being played on by no less than three players 😂

    • @benhughes1303
      @benhughes1303 5 місяців тому +1

      Would have been offside these days by var

    • @deanhowell5936
      @deanhowell5936 4 місяці тому +3

      I came here to comment on this. An equally poor decision to the Koeman one.

    • @ahermens
      @ahermens 4 місяці тому

      I still remember that to this day. Clearly onside!

    • @ahermens
      @ahermens 4 місяці тому

      @@benhughes1303 Nah Ben even var can't stuff that decision up! I'm surprised the dutch didn't complain but i guess you can't change that.

    • @braller1
      @braller1 4 місяці тому +2

      The English only remember the Koeman red that never was. Although Platt dived like a dying swan / a Harry Kane, it was still a red card in my opinion. I'd however take a goal and a player sent off (in 2nd half when Koeman made the foul) any day off the week. But no: the English now claim it's Koeman Karma. The ref made 2 big mistakes in this game for each side to take on the chin, so there was nothing to complain about for the English afterwards. The English people today use it to justify the refs atrocious Kane awarded penalty and totally forgotten about the Rijkaard goal. Pathetic and laughable.

  • @Jacknicknila
    @Jacknicknila Рік тому +1

    Would love to watch this match in its entirety with the wonderful ITV commentary

  • @nicklaytonUK
    @nicklaytonUK 3 роки тому +6

    'He's going to flick one now'. Brian Moore, amazing commentator

  • @MrMutluSunay
    @MrMutluSunay 2 роки тому +10

    How this dutch team with such a legendary players couldn’t win any throphy...

  • @ronhoek69
    @ronhoek69 10 років тому +165

    Everybody seems to forget the 100% goal of Rijkaard. 05:33.

    • @That_Random_Bloke
      @That_Random_Bloke 9 років тому +19

      Yeah to be fair Holland were a much, much better team than us at this time

    • @bucwhovian8305
      @bucwhovian8305 7 років тому +24

      That is the worst decision by a linesman I've ever seen, not only is he about 3 yards onside, there are three defenders playing him on!

    • @zisssssou
      @zisssssou 6 років тому +6

      Sélective memory isn't it?

    • @RuudJH
      @RuudJH 6 років тому +5

      it was mentioned when Koeman should have gotten a red card.
      All in all, it was a great match. England was very close to several goals.
      This game was won by the stars that Netherlands had in those days. Koeman, Rijkaard, Bergkamp.

    • @SpeccyHorace
      @SpeccyHorace 6 років тому +2

      Fuck him, vile spitting cunt.

  • @BasMeijer
    @BasMeijer 4 місяці тому +5

    Ridiculous that Koeman wasn't sent off so the coach was understandibly livid. Clearly not a penalty though, since Koeman let go of Platt's arm before either of them entered the penalty area (freeze at 6:50). The foul on Wouters was less clear, but I can understand that the referee put it outside there as well.
    Still, you can't say that Koemans not sending off was the crucial point of this match. Had the Netherlands been 1-0 in front (after Rijkaards goal), Koeman would never have been in this one-on-one with Platt.

  • @richardhaynes3925
    @richardhaynes3925 8 місяців тому +6

    Let's just give a shout out to the outstanding commentary from Moore and Atkinson

    • @alwilfrid
      @alwilfrid 3 місяці тому +1

      The commentary by Moore for the first goal by the Netherlands is my favourite bit of sports commentary ever.

  • @GodOfVictory501
    @GodOfVictory501 5 років тому +13

    I never get tired of watching this game, lol

  • @BazGrout
    @BazGrout 3 роки тому +4

    This represented the lowest time for me family my mother was diagnosed with cancer my dad was made redundant from his bank then England lost and did not go to the world cup from 1993 the only way was up for me and life is now so much greater the 1990s were a disaster for alot of people 😊

  • @peloquin1979
    @peloquin1979 6 років тому +79

    Just imagine if VAR was in place then. Rijkaard's goal would have stood and Koeman would've been sent off.
    On a sidenote : Brian Moore, one of the best commentators we've ever had in English broadcasting.

    • @wiseonwords
      @wiseonwords 5 років тому +1

      @Hannibal Barca - As long as we're speculating, Bergkamp would probably have gone crazy and scored a hat trick, and England would have gone out that way!

    • @TheNewPatsyBailey
      @TheNewPatsyBailey 5 років тому +8

      @@wiseonwords Yes, pretty useless to speculate. So let me join you guys :) If VAR was in place back then I'm pretty sure a player like Koeman would've been able to adapt & make different choices altogether. Different times, for sure. That's all there is to it, imo. Let's all end in agreement that Brian Moore was a brilliant commentator at least.

    • @robvoncken2565
      @robvoncken2565 5 років тому +5

      true entirely differnt match the referee and linesmen were crap by any standards

    • @alticoo
      @alticoo 4 роки тому

      Var is shit

    • @seanwickham7225
      @seanwickham7225 4 роки тому +5

      How was England's free kick not retaken and Koeman's was (with a yellow card for encroachment)?

  • @junglejamesie
    @junglejamesie 9 років тому +31

    Seamans positioning at Koemans free kick is ridiculous.

    • @gantzdevries5321
      @gantzdevries5321 9 років тому +7

      Spot on, seaman left acres of room for Keoman...chronic positioning

    • @kailashpatel1706
      @kailashpatel1706 8 років тому +2

      It's awful, he was never attacked for it either..

    • @markynorthy1878
      @markynorthy1878 5 місяців тому

      From the first time I saw this i thought what the hell is he stood there for he’ll never make that ground up ridiculous

    • @pogimodo
      @pogimodo 4 місяці тому +3

      Was the thinking at the time, the keeper covers one side and the wall covers the other?

    • @paulhynes170
      @paulhynes170 4 місяці тому +1

      he gave him an open net basically

  • @SuperBillKent
    @SuperBillKent 10 років тому +10

    Out of all of the shambolic performances under Graham Taylor England actually played pretty well this night but the damage was done with atrocious performances earlier in the qualifying campaign. The ref was just hopeless but when you fail to beat Norway home and away and you're stuck in a winner takes all game like this anything can happen

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 6 років тому +2

      Exactly. The same scenario happened under Steve McLaren failure to beat Macedonia at home and Israel away which left a winner takes all game against Croatia!

    • @seduxtive776
      @seduxtive776 4 роки тому

      SuperBillKill .SuperBillKill even though the guy didn’t get the respect he deserved . He was a hopeless manager . The English always crying about the supposed penalty , yet they got extremely lucky with that cheap penalty in Italia 90 with Belgium .

    • @andrewjoyce9038
      @andrewjoyce9038 Рік тому

      ​@@seduxtive776 it wasn't a penalty

  • @billkent6037
    @billkent6037 4 роки тому +16

    England played really well that night.. and as for the ref he never refereed another international

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 4 роки тому +4

      Good.

    • @billkent6037
      @billkent6037 3 роки тому +8

      @@r4h4al Yeah, his performance was atrocious... 28 years later and watching this now and it’s still just as bad. I like the way for the England free kick the Dutch player blocking is nothing like 10 yards, he gives nothing and then 2 minutes later he gives Ince a yellow card and a retake for the same thing at the other end... What a joke!

    • @europainvicta3907
      @europainvicta3907 3 роки тому +1

      Ingurland did play well - like they did against Croatia, Italy, Iceland, Belgium B Team . . . . . . . 😂 😂

  • @subculture2006
    @subculture2006 Рік тому +5

    Taylor never picked Chris Waddle. One of the most idiotic decisions by an international manager ever.

    • @jimmynich4791
      @jimmynich4791 4 місяці тому

      Yeah he picked Carlton Palmer of all people, Sinton played as well but where's Beardsley? Must've been injured, think Gazza was as well.

  • @johnruby147
    @johnruby147 5 років тому +9

    When you look at this match in hindsight you wonder how these Referees make the decisions that they do . Rykards goal should have stood . Koeman should have been sent off as should the Dutch number 5 for that tackle on Parker , but what annoys me most is , after Koeman pulls Platt down , from the resulting Free Kick , before the ball is even kicked there's a Dutch defender about 4 yards from the ball , it hits him and Holland go on the attack and the Ref does nothing about it . Yet when Holland get a Free Kick , as Koeman kicks the ball Ince does exactley the same thing moves before the ball is kicked , gets booked and the kick is retaken from which Koeman scores . Inconsistancy

  • @del7538
    @del7538 7 років тому +43

    You see the best and the worst of Seaman in this match. His reflex saves from Bergkamp and then immediately from Rijkaard were world class. But his positional sense was ALWAYS suspect! Anything over his head and he was instantly beaten.

    • @partyentertains4092
      @partyentertains4092 6 років тому +6

      Just like WC 2002 against Brazil lol.

    • @Adrianheneghan
      @Adrianheneghan 5 років тому +4

      Nayim

    • @alwilfrid
      @alwilfrid 3 роки тому +2

      Gazza 1991, but I think Seaman would get caught out because of something happening he didn't expect.

    • @13muller9
      @13muller9 2 роки тому

      @@alwilfrid If I am not mistaken in a game against a Spanish club, a player volleyed the ball almost from half the field, and as you said Seaman not expecting it, was beaten!

    • @rosemaryfarell5264
      @rosemaryfarell5264 2 роки тому +2

      Agreed. He constantly got done onn free kicks and long range shots. All the evidence is there in years worth of footage. Great shot stopper but vastly overrated. Nigel Martyn from 97-02 was much better yet was ALWAYS second fiddle.

  • @blondstallion
    @blondstallion 6 років тому +5

    Rijkaard is an amazing guy, not a word though he surely knew he wasn't offside.
    Ik had the pleasure playing with him in Abcoude veteran team in Amsterdam the year before he signed as Barcelona coach.
    Fantastic man on and off the pitch.

    • @blondstallion
      @blondstallion 6 років тому

      Not back then, but later after Rudi and Frank were in a Dutch butter commercial on Dutch tv they became great friends.

  • @wojciechslaw
    @wojciechslaw Рік тому +2

    What a poor refereeing! A perfectly scored goal disallowed and two red cards not given! England very unlucky with hitting the post twice. A thrilling game to watch, though

  • @jandeboer426
    @jandeboer426 5 років тому +21

    Funny that the England coach doesn't talk about the referee mistake knowing that it was a fair goal by Rijkaard. Bergkamp was better then a lot of Dutch people think.

    • @wiseonwords
      @wiseonwords 5 років тому +2

      "Bergkamp was better than a lot of Dutch people [thought]," as Arsenal discovered to their eternal gratitude the following season!

    • @MrMowky
      @MrMowky 4 роки тому +2

      It's one thing to get the split second offside decision wrong. It's entirely another to miss a red card sending off. That's not a split second decision but a deliberation that was cowardly because he just didn't want to make a big call. Instead he didn't give a penalty and he didn't give the deserved and obvious red.

    • @chrisearl4440
      @chrisearl4440 4 роки тому +3

      After Cruyff, the next best three Dutch players of all time are Bergkamp, van Basten and Rensenbrink

    • @martydav9475
      @martydav9475 4 роки тому +1

      @@chrisearl4440 I would have it van Basten, Berkamp and Rensenbrink, but all three were brilliant.

    • @chrisearl4440
      @chrisearl4440 4 роки тому +1

      marty dav and I would put Ruud Krol in at number 5. Another brilliant player!

  • @francomark
    @francomark 4 роки тому +5

    Had totally forgotten about Bergkamp's goal. Glorious stuff

    • @sx4222
      @sx4222 3 роки тому +2

      Wow, 90‘s Bergkamp was just too good , alomost every old matches I review now via internet he scored balls and had several threanteining chances.

  • @MartinT82
    @MartinT82 10 років тому +22

    I was 11 too in '93 watching it on TV with my dad! Looking back now, I don't think I've ever witnessed a game since with so much controversy and drama... so many incidents: Rijkaard's 'goal' should have stood in the first half; Ronald Koeman should have clealy been sent off though it's debatable whether his foul was inside the area; the free kick should also have been retaken as Wouters was about 2 yards away when Dorigo hit it; his brother should have seen red for his foul (almost like Nigel De Jong on Xavi Alonso!) on Parker; and Pallister's foul looked inside the box too!! If any game summed up England in my lifetime, this is it. Thanks for the upload dude.

    • @Resenbrink
      @Resenbrink 10 років тому +2

      It's not debatable whether his foul was inside the area - it's either in or it's out and it's clearly fucking out. Still love watching this game and hearing the English piss and moan.

    • @eddielasowsky7777
      @eddielasowsky7777 10 років тому +3

      robby rensenbrink
      For a country thats had so many talented players youve won surprisingly little.

    • @Resenbrink
      @Resenbrink 10 років тому +2

      eddie lasowsky I couldn't agree more.

    • @eddielasowsky7777
      @eddielasowsky7777 10 років тому

      *****
      Call it unlucky if ya like. Personally speaking i think the Dutch team shits itself in finals and pussies out ;)

    • @eddielasowsky7777
      @eddielasowsky7777 10 років тому +2

      *****
      Yeah we invented the game, but that doesnt make us a great footballing nation. When it comes to winning we are almost embarrased. What has happened is that the liberal elite has made Englishness synonymous with racism, subjugation, empire. Look at the independence debate in Scotland, all the time England is being blamed for Scotlands lack of prosperity. In this climate our footballers who put the shirt on don't care because theyve been told not to care by outside elements. You might think i'm over dramatising, but as an international team we are finished.

  • @horacio_oliveyra
    @horacio_oliveyra Рік тому +3

    Awfull referee. Both Koemans had to be sent off. Rijkaard - the clearest goal of the game.

  • @johanrijhkelaar3627
    @johanrijhkelaar3627 3 роки тому +9

    Not an England fan by any means but how did Koeman stayed in the game after that is beyond unthinkable, red card all day

  • @lodersracing
    @lodersracing 4 роки тому +7

    6:26 Penalty and sending off offence and 7:55 sending off offence

    • @billkent6037
      @billkent6037 3 роки тому

      Definitely a red card 7:55... Disgraceful refereeing!

  • @roberthermans6357
    @roberthermans6357 4 роки тому +7

    So many great players on both sides and lots of drama in this game! Can imagine England expected one or two red cards for NL, then they've hit the post twice. Then, NL having denied a beautiful goal from Rijkaard. In the end, for England, with strikers as Overmars, Roy, Bergkamp and Rijkaard coming from midfield, it was just a little bit too much top-quality to hold off and it made the difference in this game, I think.

  • @superlucas010578
    @superlucas010578 5 років тому +6

    Worst referee EVER !!!!
    1- Frank Rijkaard's goal should have been given. He was 5 meters behind the line when the pass was made.
    2- Ronald Koeman's foul was out of the penalty area, yet he rules it in. The linesman had to tell him otherwise.
    3- Ronald Koeman had to be dismissed (red card) since he was the last man and Platt was facing the goalkeeper to score.
    4- Edwin Koeman should have given a red card and a some jail time for that flying kick, yet he only receives a warning.
    5- Wouters blocked Dorigo's free kick by putting himself 3 meters from the ball and the referee didn't sanction him, yet he does it when Ince blocks Koeman's free kick.

    • @dracso6058
      @dracso6058 5 років тому

      maybe your right, but it doesnt matter, the dutch would have won anyway.

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 5 років тому

      Bergkamps goal should've been disallowed also for a hand ball.

  • @Griselabb
    @Griselabb 9 років тому +6

    It's absolutely unbelievable that a player of Bergkamp's quality didn't prove successful in Inter Milan. In the role he played in this game, he was unstoppable. England was lucky that he was more wasteful than normal. The pass for Rijkaard was sublime.

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 6 років тому +2

      Yeah I don't understand that either. He could have had a hatrick in this game with a bit more shooting accuracy. Fantastic player.

    • @nathanrobinson1099
      @nathanrobinson1099 5 років тому +2

      They played defensively, that would stymie Bergkamps skills, isolate him and reduce passing options. That's how it didn't work out

    • @edmondsimon9220
      @edmondsimon9220 5 років тому +1

      @@nathanrobinson1099 yes same against Brasil Bergkamp has been isolated in 98

    • @waso778
      @waso778 2 роки тому +1

      He felt not good in Italy. Then can't perform.

  • @michaelmuldowney8
    @michaelmuldowney8 4 місяці тому +2

    Cracking game. Seaman made a couple of decent saves but really was poor for both Dutch goals. Frank Rijkaards “offside” goal was terrible call - three England players were playing him onside.

  • @jurben33
    @jurben33 4 місяці тому +4

    When Koeman fouled Platt we should have been 1-0 up. Rijkaard scored a perfect goal that whas given off site. There where 3 defenders between Rijkaard and the keeper if you see the replay this is christal clear. So if we roam into the "should have been territory" Holland where 1-0 up!
    So I would say Koeman would not have touched Platt with a 1-0 lead. So Koeman should have been off the pitch is not an issue. Holland should have been 1-0 up!!
    Why is nowbody mentioning this!!!

    • @alwilfrid
      @alwilfrid 3 місяці тому

      Any fair England fan DOES mention that. I have no bitterness about this game because of the Rijkaard disallowed goal.

  • @rc2869
    @rc2869 6 місяців тому +2

    I remember most of this game but I'd forgotten that foul on Parker was disgraceful

  • @MrStefcallan
    @MrStefcallan 5 років тому +6

    Koeman should have been sent off. The freekick, a Dutch guy encroached - the guy was 4 metres away when it hit him!
    Koeman retaken freekick... after Ince encroachment...
    England hit woodwork twice
    You know it's really not your day

  • @HemNetOrange
    @HemNetOrange Рік тому +1

    5:35 Rijkaard scores, no offside. In todays' game, with a VAR, that goal would have simply been given.

  • @jchaaaaapz
    @jchaaaaapz 6 років тому +81

    Koeman not getting sent off and it not being a penalty is the most bent thing I have ever seen in Football.

    • @MrCrazyrob666
      @MrCrazyrob666 3 роки тому +7

      More bent than Henry's hand balls against Ireland in 2009?

    • @ryanwebb5082
      @ryanwebb5082 3 роки тому +14

      And the other Koeman should've been sent off for the king fu kick on Parker

    • @simon0044
      @simon0044 3 роки тому +21

      Frank was 2 metres onside when he scored

    • @johnruby147
      @johnruby147 3 роки тому +2

      @@MrCrazyrob666 Did you know that the Irish FA put in complaint about the Handball , But IFA offerd the Irish 3 Million quid not to , because as Blatter said France would be a bigger name in the finals than Ireland

    • @jonblazeinc
      @jonblazeinc 3 роки тому +14

      It was never a penalty foul started outside the box....but yes koeman should have seen red all day

  • @darrenporter1850
    @darrenporter1850 7 місяців тому +2

    Koeman should have been booked for foul against Ince too. Must admit forgot about that disallowed goal that wasn't offside.

  • @Garrett1974
    @Garrett1974 3 роки тому +7

    As a Dutch guy I admit Ronald Koeman should have been sent off, but this just goes to show that some referees don't know what they're doing or how to "implement" the rules...
    Definitely a red card.

    • @kingkane1051
      @kingkane1051 2 роки тому

      PARTITA RUBATA IN TOTO! BASTARDI! ARBITRO ROTTO IN KULO

  • @JoshuaMSP1995
    @JoshuaMSP1995 7 років тому +9

    A travesty of a refereeing performance.
    1) Dutch goal disallowed even though three players are playing the scorer onside.
    2) Koeman not sent off.
    3) England's FK charged down by a player much closer than the maximum allowed ten yards.
    4) The Dutch should have been given a penalty (though seeing as Koeman scored the resulting FK, justice perhaps).

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 6 років тому +2

      4) Still a wrong decision - wasn't a foul, Pallister made a perfectly good tackle.

    • @mrjefferies90
      @mrjefferies90 5 років тому +2

      @@r4h4al they don't care. An English player commited it lol

    • @sx4222
      @sx4222 3 роки тому +1

      Yes, u are brillant. England lost for sure~

  • @goonern4644
    @goonern4644 4 роки тому +3

    Ian Wright not starting for England in 1993 with his Arsenal form was criminal.

    • @vhayes2257
      @vhayes2257 3 роки тому +1

      Goooner N4: he was injured for this game. He would have started otherwise.

  • @Graeme726
    @Graeme726 5 місяців тому +3

    Seamans position for the free kick was disgraceful

  • @YeOldeFootballChannel
    @YeOldeFootballChannel 10 років тому +6

    I still remember when Graham Taylor reacted to that Ronald Koeman's tackle to David Platt: "REFEREEEEEEEEEEEE! REFEREEEEEEEEEEEE!" (As seen on Do I Not Like That)

  • @JamesWho1
    @JamesWho1 10 років тому +18

    he's gonna flick one remember brian moore saying that about 10 times

    • @kisbie
      @kisbie 7 років тому +8

      It's almost as if Brian Moore believes that if he says it enough times, God will allow David Seaman to hear it.

    • @jonblazeinc
      @jonblazeinc 3 роки тому

      @@kisbie hear it ? Seaman should have seen it himself from 25 yards... myself aged 15 back then , Brian Moore and probably Stevie wonder saw Koeman was gonna flick it ...the only imbecile who didn't realize was David Seaman

  • @Zamppa86
    @Zamppa86 4 роки тому +57

    The 1994 World Cup was the first one I saw. I remember asking my dad "Dad, where's England?" when we were watching the games together. He answered "My boy, England is the most overhyped and the most overrated nation in football". I learned one of the biggest truths of football that summer.

    • @robparkinson9850
      @robparkinson9850 4 роки тому +1

      norway winning the group was what screwed it for england, meant only one or holland and england was going to qualify

    • @tecumsehtoccoa553
      @tecumsehtoccoa553 4 роки тому +1

      I remember this game, the time period and in hindsight that was not a bad English team and Graeme Taylor deserved more out this. They could have easily scored 4 goals against the Dutch. I think the bridge has been crossed and England is right up there today.

    • @soldierofchrist4447
      @soldierofchrist4447 4 роки тому +3

      @HKKL
      Seedorf would be the best midfielder today

    • @tyqwdybijo
      @tyqwdybijo 4 роки тому +1

      england was cheated to deny them a place at the world cup

    • @alfredotacus8233
      @alfredotacus8233 4 роки тому +1

      @HKKL Look at the career of Clarence Seedorf...

  • @johnhehir508
    @johnhehir508 Рік тому +1

    In the first game at Wembley England were 2-0 up when the Dutch sent their so called wolfman on to elbow gazza face in , then having taken out our playmaker Dutch equalised ,pure filthy tactics ,so no surprise they did the same in Holland

  • @marky26marky
    @marky26marky 8 років тому +22

    How come football back then seemed more important and serious than nowadays?

    • @SB-xo2bx
      @SB-xo2bx 7 років тому +9

      marky26marky less money involved of course, less ego but the atmosphere at the games was much less sanitised amongst many other things.

    • @wilmaroelofs7718
      @wilmaroelofs7718 7 років тому

      internetzz

    • @twirajuda
      @twirajuda 6 років тому +12

      Because back then players and ownership alike were as dedicated to their national team as their clubs. This is the era before Beckham’s superstardom, WAGs (as led by his wife Victoria), or Russian oligarchs and Mideast Sheik Yerboutis bought up clubs. In doing so, they debased the Three Lions and English football in general with money and materialism

    • @mairapasok5258
      @mairapasok5258 6 років тому

      Hello marky26marky! This is how 90s playing soccer.

    • @ricd2821
      @ricd2821 6 років тому +5

      Because you were a young boy and it meant everything to you. Now your priorities are different and it doesn't matter as much.. everyone's golden period is when they grew up mine is 96-02

  • @sarasonsalas3472
    @sarasonsalas3472 2 роки тому +3

    Another game without Matt Le Tessier 😔

  • @MiddlesbroughFCVideoVault
    @MiddlesbroughFCVideoVault 6 років тому +3

    Brian Moores career pinnacle this one - the finest moment of his long and distinguished stint with ITV : "He's gonna flip one..." 9:26

  • @danelson8269
    @danelson8269 Рік тому +1

    ref said later that he didnt send him off as he was worried there would be a riot,they also brought in a new rule that last man foul is auto red after this incident

  • @bully3628
    @bully3628 8 років тому +55

    I could listen to Brian Moore read the phone book for hours.

    • @kailashpatel1706
      @kailashpatel1706 8 років тому +7

      his commentary was awesome on the Koeman free kick, 'again its Ronald koeman, again the problem is there, his going to flick one, his going to flick one', just superb, his capturing the drama and reading the action so well and not allowing his patriotism to get the best of him...

    • @kailashpatel1706
      @kailashpatel1706 8 років тому +2

      OK, he made a mistake but on the whole he was a legend behind the mic...and very fair as well to the dutch and the English...where did England go wrong in the early 1990's from the semi run of 1990?

    • @Activsoul
      @Activsoul 8 років тому +2

      Euro 1996 was a great tournament that England should have won, so I'd say they bounced back.

    • @thechannelivesetupbecausey3585
      @thechannelivesetupbecausey3585 8 років тому +1

      +Kailash Patel Graham Taylot

    • @kisbie
      @kisbie 7 років тому +2

      I agree. He got a bad press in the fanzines at the time, but he was pretty engaging really. Hamburg are still looking for those 1980 European Cup winners medals he promised them though. ;)

  • @onlyweatherlol93
    @onlyweatherlol93 Рік тому +2

    What a double save from Seaman!

  • @neilwalker9737
    @neilwalker9737 10 років тому +8

    leaves you with mixed feelings this (England supporters anyway!). You do wonder how Koeman (no to mention his brother if that was him going in studs up...) didn't take a walk for that foul. On the other hand, Dutch had a perfectly legit goal disallowed in 1st half. And if England had got better results elsewhere (surrendering 2-0 lead to Dutch at Wembley + losing to Norway if I remember right), they wouldn't have been in this predicament.

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 6 років тому +1

      Furthermore Koeman should have already been booked for the foul earlier in the video.

    •  4 роки тому +1

      And if they hadn't appointed Gram Taylor as manager ...

  • @pflynn581
    @pflynn581 6 років тому +5

    This was probably our best performance under Graham Taylor.

    • @Fazzer77
      @Fazzer77 3 роки тому

      Better than the 1-1 v Brazil in Washington?

    • @pflynn581
      @pflynn581 3 роки тому

      @@Fazzer77 I'd say so.Not result wise but really unlucky,especially considering Koeman shouldn't have been on the pitch when he scored after denying us a golden opportunity.

  • @JamesRichardTaylor
    @JamesRichardTaylor 7 років тому +5

    I find it hard to believe that the officiating against Holland for both ties was this selectively incompetent to this degree out of coincidence.

    • @billkent6037
      @billkent6037 3 роки тому

      Yeah the elbow on Gazza in the first game! OMG and the ref was looking straight at it!

  • @Richardtv1968
    @Richardtv1968 4 роки тому +2

    Taylor talking shait ..... Des Walker did not get a red card at Wembley pulling Overmars down and should have had red like Koeman should’ve. And Rijkaards goal was a clear onside goal, with three defenders still in front of him ....fact of the matter was that the Dutch side just had more individual class players on the pitch

  • @sx4222
    @sx4222 3 роки тому +3

    Wow, 90‘s Bergkamp was just too good , alomost every old matches I review now via internet he scored balls and had several threanteining chances.

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 3 роки тому +1

      Tbf the 2nd goal was absolute class even if there was a cheeky handball in it.

  • @andybone5698
    @andybone5698 7 років тому +1

    The TV cameras failed to pick up the hand ball by Bergkamp in any replays before his goal too

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 6 років тому

      That's a good point.

  • @EKcyclist
    @EKcyclist 4 роки тому +9

    I’m Scottish, but not here to wind anyone up. It’s when I see footage like this that I realise just how unlucky England have been over the years. Unreal!

    • @MrDemetri78
      @MrDemetri78 3 роки тому

      And Euro ‘96 all the way up to 2018 WC.

    • @tj2645
      @tj2645 3 роки тому

      The dutch football education is to strong for kick and Rush England.

    • @EKcyclist
      @EKcyclist 3 роки тому +1

      @@tj2645 to be honest, Theo, I think England have an extremely technical side now. They will be a real force at the Euros. I just hope that they have an off day against Scotland 🤣

    • @tj2645
      @tj2645 3 роки тому +1

      @@EKcyclist you'r right mate.

  • @peterreid9769
    @peterreid9769 Рік тому +2

    Cruel but Rikjaard was onside.
    As for the second half, Koeman should have walked, the Dutch no. 5 should have been sent off for the challenge on Parker and the free kick Koeman scored from wasn't a foul.
    And Merson hit the inside of the post!

  • @nighttrain1236
    @nighttrain1236 8 років тому +6

    Koeman was the ultimate villain that night.

    • @ian38018a
      @ian38018a 4 роки тому

      Gotta disagree - the ref was.

  • @piccupaul
    @piccupaul 2 роки тому +1

    The England bench was right - the refereeing in this game was disgraceful. Aside from Koeman's foul (that should have resulted in a red card and possibly a penalty), the ref allowed the Dutch to charge Dorigo's free-kick, but booked Ince when he did exactly the same thing at the other end a few minutes later. The Dutch were obviously the better team but it shouldn't cloud the fact England got well and truly reffed off the park.

  • @janfranszuidema8512
    @janfranszuidema8512 6 років тому +8

    It was a fun controversial game in a tough qualifying group.

    • @billkent6037
      @billkent6037 3 роки тому +1

      There hasn’t really been a big game between England and Holland for many years but during the 90’s it was a big rivalry! We loved it when we won 4-1 in euro96 but that was the last big game really because I don’t count the nations league. In England we were very angry about these two games in 93 and we wanted revenge and we got it in 96

  • @robinxwalterspoker
    @robinxwalterspoker 6 років тому +1

    what a game ,miss it dont no where I was that time,thanks anaway,s

  • @AlexOjideagu2
    @AlexOjideagu2 6 років тому +12

    9:47 What the hell is Seaman doing leaving the entire goal open?

    • @ReanimatorsMutilations
      @ReanimatorsMutilations 5 років тому +3

      Guess he was relying on the wall lol

    • @spring983
      @spring983 4 роки тому +5

      At least he never made a mess of another free kick after that one 🇧🇷

    • @Scallion_D
      @Scallion_D 4 роки тому +1

      Terrible goalkeeping.

    • @alexojideagu
      @alexojideagu 4 роки тому +1

      I still remember this as a kid, he's gonna flick one. Terrible.

    • @alexojideagu
      @alexojideagu 4 роки тому

      ha Springtime Ronaldinho

  • @Mad_Intellect
    @Mad_Intellect 3 роки тому +2

    Wasn't s penalty, foul happens at 6:50 exactly(pause the replay), clearly outside the box, it was red card though. But Rijkaard's goal wasn't offside, don't see English fans mentioning that.

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 3 роки тому

      The foul carried on into the box though so clearly should have been a pen.

  • @rafapaz9158
    @rafapaz9158 7 років тому +6

    Both nations were declining in 92-94 post Lineker/Van Basten era though the Netherlands did pretty well in the USA

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 6 років тому +1

      I'd still say two good teams. Basiaclly two semi final looking teams regressing to two QF esque teams. So still top top teams.

    • @mrjefferies90
      @mrjefferies90 5 років тому +2

      This Netherlands were not in decline lol what are you smoking?

    • @wiseonwords
      @wiseonwords 5 років тому +3

      You forget that the Dutch also did quite well in France in 1998. There goes your declining theory!

  • @TobyShads
    @TobyShads 4 місяці тому +4

    Up yours Koeman, 31 years is not too late for the karma train to arrive.

  • @vhayes2257
    @vhayes2257 5 років тому +3

    14:33 the famous FIFA official, target of Taylor's anger on the sidelines in the second half, sheepishly and rather nervously walks past! To be fair to the poor guy, none of it was his fault.

  • @johnmorell7020
    @johnmorell7020 Рік тому +1

    Let's just reacap: in a group containing England and Holland, Norway are group leaders and Woods has forgotten how to dive. All together now: "He's gonna flick one!" Norway -'No way', more like- your time has (evidently) come.

  • @italianplastic23
    @italianplastic23 6 років тому +16

    Hes gonna flick one now ....he's gonna flick one , HES GONNA FLICK ONE ..AND ITS IN !!! - Classic stuff from Brian Moore

    • @waynemarshall8836
      @waynemarshall8836 4 роки тому +1

      What was Seaman doing....

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 4 роки тому +1

      @@waynemarshall8836 In fairness to Seaman it should never have been a free kick; no foul.

    • @Scallion_D
      @Scallion_D 3 роки тому +1

      Top notch commentary from the greatest of them all.

    • @jonblazeinc
      @jonblazeinc 3 роки тому

      @@r4h4al yes it was a foul, and probably should have been a penalty instead

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 3 роки тому

      @@jonblazeinc Even though he won the ball.

  • @nigelkhan9278
    @nigelkhan9278 Рік тому +2

    Ronald Koeman should have seen a straight red for his foul on David Platt. If Koeman was sent off he never scores. Shearer will most likely score penalty. England hits the post twice.

    • @screamsaeed
      @screamsaeed 4 місяці тому +1

      Netherlands were first robbed a goal

    • @annev3301
      @annev3301 4 місяці тому

      @@screamsaeedExactly, b/c that robbery led up to Koeman’s competitiveness, hadn’t the goal been ruled offside

  • @jandekker6055
    @jandekker6055 8 років тому +9

    Is it coincidence that this has popped up in my feed on the day of Graham Taylor's death?
    (Also, Rijkaard was onside. Didn't realise that at the time.)

    •  4 роки тому +2

      Every day is the day of Graham Taylor's death.

  • @lankastai
    @lankastai 4 місяці тому

    Out of all the 1994 world cup qualifiers, this was my favourite game 😁

  • @charliechaz1982
    @charliechaz1982 7 років тому +3

    Brian Moore ❤ Such a brilliant commentator

  • @RandyDubin
    @RandyDubin 5 років тому +2

    Anybody besides me noticed that Holland did not have a true No.9 in this game compared to when they played at Wembley? Like, they were playing Ronald de Boer up front!!! What happened to Van Vossen and Bosman?????

  • @TheMrBennito
    @TheMrBennito 6 років тому +10

    brilliant free kick by Ronald. No dynamite. Velvet touch.

  • @markcusack6335
    @markcusack6335 Рік тому +1

    Never a proponent of Graham Taylor’s management style or brand of peculiar football, he was, nevertheless, absolutely correct in his criticism of the referee and the disgraceful decision to not send off Ronald Koeman.

  • @Jayfive276
    @Jayfive276 9 років тому +5

    In this day and age Koeman would have been sent off, then brought back on so the ref could send him off a second time, so blatant was that foul.
    That said we had no right to be in that world cup considering how bad we were.

    • @danyoutube7491
      @danyoutube7491 5 років тому

      Even in that day and age Koeman could have been sent off as well. Watch virtually any game in which he played; if there are more highlights than just the goals, you will probably see a dangerous challenge by Koeman. He committed some outrageous, blatant fouls and always got off lightly, I cannot understand why. Check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/daxebPaaCCY/v-deo.html and watch his assault on Baggio at 6:17 and laughably he goes unpunished, while a teammate who fouls and lashes out at Schillaci seconds later is sent off- this shortly after Baggio scored from a free kick, which Koeman had conceded. Looking back at all the blatant, cynical and often vicious fouls he committed, it is impossible to understand how he got away with it.

  • @markmckay666
    @markmckay666 2 роки тому +1

    What was seamen doing at that free kick

  • @thesmalllebowski284
    @thesmalllebowski284 4 місяці тому +3

    koeman shouldve been sent off, but the dutch were denied a clear onside goal.

    • @rogergr5019
      @rogergr5019 4 місяці тому +1

      And Rijkaards goal was 100% a goal

    • @ultra1obscene
      @ultra1obscene 4 місяці тому

      @@rogergr5019 didn't he just say that?

  • @georgewallace6940
    @georgewallace6940 7 років тому +2

    Referee should have been investigated as he allowed the Dutch to charge down our free-kick but penalised us for doing the same thing and for not sending off Ronald Koeman. Sure the Dutch should not have had their goal disallowed when Rjikaard was onside.

  • @mezianeremila454
    @mezianeremila454 5 років тому +5

    Bergkamp has stunning fancy touch... so underrated...

    • @ihateyoumother-fucker3204
      @ihateyoumother-fucker3204 5 років тому

      Remila Meziane I'm not being argumentative, but how is or was D.Berkamp "so underrated" as a footballer? His goal against Argentina during France 98 was officially voted the best goals scored during that World Cup finals due to sublime ball control. Take a look:
      ua-cam.com/video/XsZkCFoqSBs/v-deo.html
      I remember him scoring two stunning goals against Leicester City @ the old Filbert Street, again stunning ball control, both contenders for goal of the season. D.Bergkamp was not underrated.

    • @everttimmer3771
      @everttimmer3771 5 років тому

      Given his nick, i guess he is dutch an misinterpreted your comment, thinking underrated means the negative of it.

    • @mezianeremila454
      @mezianeremila454 5 років тому

      @@everttimmer3771 thanks for the explaination .

  • @keithbyrne5478
    @keithbyrne5478 5 років тому +16

    Marco van Basten 🇱🇺 What a player he was 1st Class 💯👏💯

  • @nose123456ful
    @nose123456ful 4 роки тому +4

    Actually England played very well in this game , unfortunately one of these two had to go .

  • @kevinshanahan6064
    @kevinshanahan6064 2 роки тому +1

    As GT said FIFA made the rule change and left no discretion to the Ref. Showed he had lost the plot when he would not allow Dorigo’s free kick to be re-taken but was over Ince for same offence.

  • @dmlewey
    @dmlewey 6 років тому +8

    Only 3 England players between Ryjkard and the goal. LOL.

  • @nathanielkahn9681
    @nathanielkahn9681 4 роки тому +4

    England fan's view:
    1. Doesn't matter that rijkaard was wayyyyy onside
    2. Doesn't matter that koeman's foul was outside the box
    3. Doesn't matter that ince was about 3 yards away from the free kick, it shouldn't have been retaken
    It all adds up to england getting screwed

  • @lukex1431
    @lukex1431 8 років тому +5

    "Graham Taylor is left furious with the referee over his failure to send
    off Ronald Koeman for hauling down a goalbound David Platt" was he not furious for the ref disallowing rijkaard's goal?

    • @r4h4al
      @r4h4al 6 років тому +1

      It's a joke.

    • @kailashpatel1706
      @kailashpatel1706 6 років тому

      sorry, that's not his problem...that was still a sending off for Koeman...every day and the goal should have stood for Frank..

  • @andrikristianto2577
    @andrikristianto2577 Рік тому +1

    As a Holland die hard fan I could imagine as a 17th years teenager I would be histerical when Koeman and Bergkamp scored…too bad I missed this game when no live broadcast easily accessed anywhere online or on tv as it is now… I really miss watching Dutch team in this high quality with full of world class players….

    • @Nightopian1982
      @Nightopian1982 Рік тому

      Despite the fact that Koeman should never have been on the pitch at that stage...

  • @davidbutterworth7093
    @davidbutterworth7093 6 років тому +3

    Haha 8.48 and that fella standing next to him, the dutch always fascinated me because of this kind of weirdness.

  • @chrisfallon9678
    @chrisfallon9678 3 роки тому +1

    I love it ..you'll never walk alone being played 👌👌👌