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КОМЕНТАРІ • 158

  • @Dwbulldog04
    @Dwbulldog04 Рік тому +93

    I will meet women in person or on the dating apps and they ask “Why don’t men want to commit?”. I always ask “Is it a situation where men as a collective aren’t committing or is it the men you want aren’t committing?” That usually shuts them up.

    • @impudentdomain
      @impudentdomain Рік тому +9

      good answer but now in days its probably both because men are just so done with marriage in the west.

    • @abdirahman292
      @abdirahman292 Рік тому

      😂👏

    • @m.vonhollen6673
      @m.vonhollen6673 Рік тому +1

      @@impudentdomainJust so you know, the term is “nowadays”.

    • @impudentdomain
      @impudentdomain Рік тому

      @@m.vonhollen6673 that is a conjunction of now in days, either is correct

    • @m.vonhollen6673
      @m.vonhollen6673 Рік тому +2

      @@impudentdomain A “conjunction” is a word that is used to connect words, phrases and clauses; examples of conjunctions are words like if, but, because, when, etc.
      So “nowadays” is not a conjunction but rather it is an ADVERB which means “at the present time” or “in comparison with the past”.
      It is always now written as one word.
      Please look it up. I did because that’s how I learn. (I taught French and English for nearly 40 years.)

  • @itibster
    @itibster Рік тому +5

    The book he's talking about is not on the neurology but the pathology of high status men.

  • @scottb296
    @scottb296 Рік тому +30

    Women can't seem to wrap their head around the fact that they don't have a tendency to choose good men. It makes them uncomfortable to think that, maybe they aren't so virtuous themselves sometimes and they can't grapple with that possibility. So what do they often do? They put their heads in the sand and deny that it is true.

    • @vecter
      @vecter Рік тому +1

      You sound like a nice guy. Gross.

    • @Daniellihomes
      @Daniellihomes Рік тому

      @@vecter Irrelevant comment. Now go make a sandwich

    • @anab0lic
      @anab0lic Рік тому +4

      They are choosing whats good, in their world view, which is dictated by their genes. What men view as positive or 'good' traits in a man and what a VVomen views as good are very different.

    • @abdirahman292
      @abdirahman292 Рік тому +1

      Who says those men are not good? Just because women can't accept male nature doesn't mean men are not good. Women want a high performing man but can't accept what comes with it. Men like you who offer nothing and don't get picked by women like to believe they are the good ones and that women should pick them for being nice lol.

    • @nicolem889
      @nicolem889 Рік тому +1

      It’s not that. You can’t assume a guy is good because he is a loser. And why would women who have conquered the patriarchy want to choose struggling men. They understand, they just do not want to date down.

  • @zetectic7968
    @zetectic7968 Рік тому +20

    The perfect analogy to high status/cheating men is studies that were done about soldiers from the VietNam war back to WW2. It found that only 5% were doing 90% of the shooting of the enemy. Others would miss, some deliberately and some would not fire their weapon at all in a battle. This is reinforced by the limited number of men that get awarded to highest level of medals for bravery.

    • @anab0lic
      @anab0lic Рік тому +2

      Thats nothing really to do with being high status. That's more to do with having empathy for your fellow man and being unable to kill as a result.

    • @KD400_
      @KD400_ Рік тому

      I'm sure there were soldiers who didn't fire and were there just to protect their country. But I'm sure they were also killed aswell

    • @impudentdomain
      @impudentdomain Рік тому +6

      That is simply the Pareto principle, look it up. in any given situation/job about 90% of the work is done by 10-15% of the people. The rest are NPC's.

    • @anab0lic
      @anab0lic Рік тому +2

      @@impudentdomain having empathy for another human and being reluctant to kill because of that, doesn't make you an 'NPC' quite the opposite in fact.

    • @impudentdomain
      @impudentdomain Рік тому +3

      @@anab0lic which had nothing to do with my mentioning of the Pareto principle. You are too quick to read into things what you want to.

  • @zhouadwina918
    @zhouadwina918 9 місяців тому +1

    our society is in such a bad state that both men and women no longer understand masculinity yet this is the very thing we need to have functional and useful people in this world

  • @CreativGaming
    @CreativGaming Рік тому +19

    What he says about high status men and low status men are wrong. Not all high status men are men and not all low status men are simps. He arguing in bad faith to only support his position. Being a Man has nothing to do with status. Regardless of status a man is someone who protects and provides.... period. Nothing more or less.

    • @moleahy6880
      @moleahy6880 Рік тому +2

      Agreed. Sometimes I think the Red Pill bloggers focus far too much on just money and muscles. Those two alone don't make a man.

    • @doroza2lol
      @doroza2lol Рік тому

      In general. "Being a Man has nothing to do with status" It has, but not in sense what has been said. Being a man is being in control and levelheaded and competent. All of these traits are easily found in high status men, ofc there are high status men that are trash - most of them sons of big shots or celebs or crypto scammers.
      Nowadays with males in general being worse, because of struggle in relationships and social and economical problems. There are more males that are simply incompetent fools doing tik toks and play games.

    • @doroza2lol
      @doroza2lol Рік тому +1

      @@moleahy6880 "focus far too much on just money and muscles. Those two alone don't make a man." Its a very nice proof of being a self made man - money - being smart with decisions and being competent, willing to provide, muscles - living a healthy lifestyle and willing to put hours and pain to get the result. If those traits could be found on every man, those average guys would get + 1-3 points to themselves. Same with females. If those big girls would try to look better by hitting the gym and acting feminine - instant + 2-3 points. The funny part is that we are getting worse by being lazy and incompetent each year, thanks to technology and cultural changes.

  • @nicolem889
    @nicolem889 Рік тому +3

    Sartain is trying on a new personality every time I see him

  • @ronswanson3656
    @ronswanson3656 Рік тому +12

    Very BASED. Sartain dominated this. 10/10 respect.

  • @berlg.3382
    @berlg.3382 Рік тому +4

    This how you know this dude lives on the internet and in skanky metropolitan cities. So far removed from the real world lol speaks in absolutes and treats books people write like empirical science. Lol golden

  • @sexyavengers2864
    @sexyavengers2864 Рік тому +5

    I don't have money I'm broke my wife is 100% loyal and will never leave me. I'm not ever gonna be rich unless a miracle hits my life. But porn and only fans are what's wrong with the world. I'm high value to her because I provide security and loyalty honesty and will protect her until my dying breathe

    • @nicolem889
      @nicolem889 Рік тому

      Porn and only fans are inconsequential

  • @RKKY-mf7fe
    @RKKY-mf7fe Рік тому +4

    WHen he says High status man I think he means psychopath

  • @davidkeele9483
    @davidkeele9483 Рік тому +8

    Incredible to see all the talking points are from Myron and even the entire show is based off of his Fresh & Fit show, I mean doesn't anybody have any shame or integrity anymore?

    • @geraldg350
      @geraldg350 Рік тому +6

      Imitaton is the best form on flattery FnF don't care they go down in history as the ones that changed the game every male podcast talking about women is an FnF clone.

    • @anab0lic
      @anab0lic Рік тому +3

      And myron got all his talking points from Rollo and all the red pill communities that he was a part of for years, none of this stuff is new.

    • @davidkeele9483
      @davidkeele9483 Рік тому +5

      @anab0lic He shouts out rollo all the time. However, Myron changed the game & made the redpill space on what it is today, most of the facts & info he reels off is from his own research, data accumulation, and note taking, his analogies & metaphors are all his, these are the talking points that everyone else takes including Andrew Tate!

    • @anab0lic
      @anab0lic Рік тому +3

      @@davidkeele9483 bro this stuff has literally been talked about for the past 2 decades online if you were a part of the right communities... you are very late to the party. Yes Myron has done a good job in informing more men about these truths via the popularity and growth of his podcast, but none of it is new, many of us have known about all of this stuff for a LONG time. Its essentially just evolutionary psychology 101.

    • @KD400_
      @KD400_ Рік тому +2

      Myron is the hardest worker in the space hes also the most caring aswell. He is strictly doing this for the men and always says truth. Theres no wishy washy with him. Just straight forward

  • @Ebani
    @Ebani Рік тому +3

    I mean sure they are completely different but to go so far as to say they're "completely different species" just takes away from your argument lmao

  • @brustos2610
    @brustos2610 Рік тому +16

    I would love to see the study of high and low status men. I figured there would be an in between and not just a dichotomy.

    • @navymed3
      @navymed3 Рік тому +7

      The in between section is tiny, most men pile up at the bottom and top

    • @ignorantlyspeaking
      @ignorantlyspeaking Рік тому

      He did mention a book: The Winner Effect - by Ian Robertson

    • @ignorantlyspeaking
      @ignorantlyspeaking Рік тому +3

      Just a heads up fellas, high status men... or even "regular guys" don't post comments on youtube.

    • @derricktalbot8846
      @derricktalbot8846 Рік тому +1

      Where do you put the Stoic on that scale?
      The Artist?
      The Craftsman?
      The Thinker?
      Chuck is right... this is not a dichotomy... and even having the conversation in that manner is not going to help those women, or ANYONE watching.
      These types of talks are entertaining, but not helpful. The women are missing one vital aspect of any conversation that would occur when you gather men to talk about manhood... they do not experience the threat of violence that would be present if more men were there. For that matter.... where on this scale do you put the man who has only ever measured himself against other men by using violence? It is just easier to say whatever you think when there are no other men being measured present.
      This IS entertaining.... but not helpful.

    • @chris_breezy4961
      @chris_breezy4961 Рік тому +2

      It works the same on the study they did on men IQ vs women IQ. Women came out to have a middle ground of the IQ scale on average(few exceptions here and there) while men had a very different score. Men were polarized for the most part of either being low on IQ or high as an average.

  • @potato2941
    @potato2941 2 місяці тому +1

    Never will I die for a 304. If I’m on a titanic and some simp is like women and children first lol I am going to be on that life raft or die trying.

  • @MajesticFerret
    @MajesticFerret Рік тому +11

    "Low status and high status men have nothing in common."
    This guy is aware nearly all the wealthiest and most powerful men on the planet are old and arent jacked and a majority of them arent particularly tall or physically imposing, right?
    Status is highly interchangeable. Lots of guys who are broke but get women through looks and plenty of guys who are ugly who get women through money. Very, very few get women using both and are rarely the top pf both categories and most of those guys are simply lucky. There is a luck factor to getting to a certain level of wealth and status and there is a luck factor in being born with top tier genetics.

    • @doroza2lol
      @doroza2lol Рік тому +1

      "Lots of guys who are broke but get women through looks and plenty of guys who are ugly who get women through money." Yes? Thats literally ""Low status and high status men have nothing in common." Broke vs rich, physical vs non physical. The diference is that women would prefer to get married to a guy that is not broke. This is not purely about sleeping with women. This is how to find a partner or get into relationship. Women simply see money and something like being competent. If you cant provide you are just attractive as a toy if you have looks.

    • @aelfredrex8354
      @aelfredrex8354 Рік тому

      These guys really do live in bubbles. They sit inside their channels all time and pump this stuff at each other for clicks while the outside world works completely different than what they say. Most of their audience is incels who avoid the world and rely on their cult leaders to tell the what's going on, so it's really Plato's Cave in action.

    • @Shervind
      @Shervind 3 місяці тому +1

      You should look into the difference between genuine desire and transactional relationships. Using money will only attract sugar babies and escorts.

  • @anuragchaturvedi5440
    @anuragchaturvedi5440 Рік тому +1

    JUST SAW YOU ON WHATEVER LOVED IT NOW I'M YOUR NEW SUBSCRIBER

  • @bplayerr1
    @bplayerr1 Рік тому

    He described sociopaths vs normal ppl

  • @robertoferrari5397
    @robertoferrari5397 6 місяців тому +1

    ,...ps,...there is also a big difference between women and GOOD LOOKING women.

  • @slartibartfast2452
    @slartibartfast2452 Рік тому +2

    It was not "high status" men that laid their life on the line on that beach that day. The high status men banked on the porofit from the conflict and prospered as a result of the war. The "high status men" usually dont show up for the fight ;)
    Yer analogies need a little work, but thats par for the course with this guy. As its usually if not only, the low status men that show up for the fight.
    The "high status men" are usually cowering behind a desk somewhere.

  • @neuromancer9k
    @neuromancer9k Рік тому +4

    2:17 - I'm shocked that they knew who Stalin was. Jury's still out if they actually recognized Pol Pot. 🤪

    • @impudentdomain
      @impudentdomain Рік тому +1

      wasn't he a gansta rapper out of Philly ? 😉

    • @neuromancer9k
      @neuromancer9k Рік тому

      @@impudentdomain 🤣🤣🤣

    • @fahimtajwaar2521
      @fahimtajwaar2521 Рік тому +1

      I remember being sat next to a girl in my history class and 3/4 of the way through our Cold War module she turned to me and asked: “Wait, was Stalin a bad guy?”

    • @neuromancer9k
      @neuromancer9k Рік тому

      @@fahimtajwaar2521 🤯Wow....."scary " feels like an understatement.

  • @mastermo316
    @mastermo316 Рік тому

    I deride your thruth handling abbilities.

  • @alfredocornelio4329
    @alfredocornelio4329 Рік тому +1

    Mike should have an alarm or a speedometer or something to remind him to slow down and breath. Relax, Bro Shapiro

  • @sensationaldenny
    @sensationaldenny Рік тому +4

    Doesn't it make more sense that 80% of men are kind of in between high status and low status? and not two distinct classes of men?. Surely there are many levels to the game. Theres the pimple face Walmart Cashier that's a virgin but then there's electrician making 80 grande with a cute girlfriend, then at the top, a rich lawyer, CEO or celebrity/Pro Sports guy that might be at a much higher level in terms of the abundance in dating

    • @xenomorpheus7376
      @xenomorpheus7376 Рік тому +2

      I enjoyed your reference to a spectrum. I've been thinking about how its impossible for everyone to be wealthy under an extractive economic system. Perhaps that is either an excuse or a reason. Then I thought about the infrastructure and the overall system. Calling-out the vast majority of men who are working thankless jobs to support a system that allows a few to sit on top is a fascinating concept. I think that when this capitalist system collapses and sets all men free of shackles of modern-day slavery of "all responsibility and no authority", then we shall see what's what regarding calling the overwhelming majority sub-standard.

    • @BigBlack81
      @BigBlack81 Рік тому

      @@xenomorpheus7376 NFN, the bible thumpers of this land will never allow capitalism to fall far enough for your prediction about freeing shackles to come to pass. Too much power has been derived from the 'book of love' to ever allow that economic system to fall. It's too endemic.

    • @xenomorpheus7376
      @xenomorpheus7376 Рік тому +1

      @@BigBlack81 the reality of your statement borders on soul-crushing tragedy…

    • @BigBlack81
      @BigBlack81 Рік тому

      @xenomorpheus7376 Tell me about it. I had to live it and still do. 😐✊🏿

    • @7ackass
      @7ackass 6 місяців тому

      This I wholeheartedly agree with.@@xenomorpheus7376

  • @alediaz67
    @alediaz67 Рік тому +4

    I was just giving a thought about high and low value men, I'm very grown up to really care but my brain is still hungry to learn. Just about men, not about women value, we all agree more or less on their value.
    I'll like to make a mind exercise if I may. I'm beyond the struggles of wifies, childs and stupidity (can't assure the last one, but kind of). If money is what put any men in the "high" value (less than a 10% are getting in this group), you mean that the rest of men are low value?
    As anyone can realize any youtuber nor influencer are that close to that 10% (with a few exceptions), so you are talking of men that you are not?
    Supposing you are one on that 10% (with effort and luck) and suddenly you loose all your money (sht happens), that means you became a low? I know it ins't a too easy job to make a living in the SM bubble, but did you have a job outside the bubble?
    Do you have university degrees?
    Do you have any other habilites or interest?
    Do you speak another language besides your born one?
    Do you make something amazing in your life, for you or others (I'm not sure I did, but who knows)? And I can keep going with many "not valuating" things but you get the idea.
    If you suddenly (God forbid y'all from that) loose all your money, the money that you think that make you "high value", you would you be a man waste?
    Just a basic and logical analysis for us all to think about.
    My respects to y'all.

    • @impudentdomain
      @impudentdomain Рік тому +4

      I also tried to address this, clearly high status is not the same as high value. The average guy who does his job well, does not break the law, is a good neighbor/husband/father is very valuable to society and to the people around him. That does not mean he has high status unless his job pays a lot but he is still high value.

    • @aelfredrex8354
      @aelfredrex8354 Рік тому +1

      You're just pointing out that value is truly subjective. Their illogic is based on utopian magical thinking, that the media concept of value, which is always what the Money wants us to chase, is the only standard.

  • @medic91b91
    @medic91b91 Рік тому +1

    Finally has someone on the how with intelligence!!

  • @drg8687
    @drg8687 Рік тому +2

    This conversation is way too basic.

  • @RyanPaly
    @RyanPaly Рік тому

    Mike didn't answer Brian's question at 0:12

  • @impudentdomain
    @impudentdomain Рік тому +3

    I understand what he is saying but it is still a bit confusing. A man does not have to have high status to be high value. My father never obtained an income above lower middle class but he was a real man, a good husband, a great father and he never would have put up with a cheating woman. I think the correct term here is Self respect. A simp has no self respect, a guy who puts up with a cheating or even a naggy bitchy woman has no self respect.

    • @nicolem889
      @nicolem889 Рік тому +1

      You do understand what he’s saying, you’re just resisting it (for a good reason). He literally said there are two classes of men.

    • @impudentdomain
      @impudentdomain Рік тому +2

      @@nicolem889 and he is literally wrong if one of them has to have a lot of money in order to be a high value man

    • @darkmoon2744
      @darkmoon2744 Рік тому +1

      @@impudentdomain He said "that does not mean thier always good" regarding high status men. Which he implied through men willing to die for thier tribe which is a respect thing and a moral thing as well. Hence he is saying what your saying

  • @archibaldevans2251
    @archibaldevans2251 Рік тому

    Regarding the comment of the soldiers who stormed the beaches at Normandie in WWII on what it is to be a (committed) ‘masculine man’ from a biblical perspective: The Book of Ephesians admonishes women to ‘submit’ to their husbands to wit women get their panties in a twist. Women (and men) mistakenly correlate submission with dominance and control. The intent is that the husband lead which requires he sacrifice (some of or much of) his personal desires. The why BTW women should submit is because of their ever changing emotions which dominate and control them; wherein (masculine) men are more stalwart (logical, pragmatic) and so not governed by their emotions. Modern Liberalism has done a great job of emasculating men. I digress. Ephesians admonishes men on-the-other-hand to ‘Love your wife as Christ loved the Church...’
    So the question begs: Who is the Church? Well, more than just the Faithful, all of mankind. And how much did Christ love the Church (us)? He willingly sacrificed His life for all of us. In fact He allowed Himself to be tortured to death. The most accurate depiction of Christ’s sacrifice would be the 2004 movie ‘Passion of the Christ’ which the Crucifixion challenging to watch. So if a (masculine) man is to love and commit to his wife so deeply that he would lay down his own life for her, I have to wonder why it’s just too much these days to ask for a sandwich...
    Having issues with Christ and Christianity? Read Lee Strobel’s 1998 book or watch the 2017 movie ‘The Case for Christ’ which Strobel’s personal journey from devout atheism...

  • @evanhume3706
    @evanhume3706 Рік тому

    So the homely guy talking about high status is high status himself and is attractive to woman? They are beating the door down for this guy. I don't believe it.

  • @paulm1162
    @paulm1162 Рік тому +2

    a man who has a rosta of girls like this man says is NOT high status, he is a player, it seems we have a group of guys now claiming to be high status, but in fact are just rich, totally different issues.
    what he claims to be low status is totally wrong, there were no high status men on the beeches in Normandy, but conversely low status become high status guiven the opportunity, money does NOT make a guy high status

    • @nicolem889
      @nicolem889 Рік тому +1

      I can’t believe you men are waking up and catching the nuance. His only MO is to make hot girls okay with cheating. It’s not to help men and women have long lasting relationships .

  • @nicolem889
    @nicolem889 Рік тому

    Two distinct classes of men?

  • @alskywell
    @alskywell Рік тому +11

    Don't like the idea of dividing men into 2 "species". Very bad idea. Not constructive for anyone.

    • @Kreymore
      @Kreymore Рік тому +8

      He was being tongue and cheek, not literal. How could you not see that?

    • @alskywell
      @alskywell Рік тому +10

      @@Kreymore you thought I thought he meant literal species? You're definitely not in the top 5% of the "superior" species of men he references, so I don't know what you think you're defending. This obsession with being a top 5% man is pathological. It's not bad to be average. Truth is most people are, and always will be and that should not be a bad thing. How screwed up is our society that we shame the "average" man.

    • @jmeds94
      @jmeds94 Рік тому +9

      @@alskywell I couldn’t agree more. Every loser is capable of being a champion and every champion is capable of falling from grace. There needs to be a serious movement to accept and applaud the average man for his 50k job and mediocre dating skills. Modern women are lucky to get a husband of that caliber when they’re acting as wild as they are.

    • @Kreymore
      @Kreymore Рік тому +2

      @alskywell love the ad homenim response. Men generally default to what their status affords them, as Sartain states. You feeling a way about how he uses the word species to emphasize his point is your problem. No one on the panel had a problem with it, so why should you?

    • @jmeds94
      @jmeds94 Рік тому +4

      @@Kreymore Everyone else on the panel is female (except the host) and has an evolutionary bias towards not having any compassion towards the men in her dating pool that don’t meet her criteria.

  • @shypeoplearehawt8155
    @shypeoplearehawt8155 Рік тому

    I know I'm gonn get a lot of flack for this however in my opinion those tthar free me from gullible ways of modern society Michael Sartain, Myron Gaines, Rollo tomassi & Andrew Tate

  • @thelookofahero15
    @thelookofahero15 Рік тому +1

    Over the lifetime of your career yes you can always break the mold and level up. But in this socialist era that we are living through most men just don’t have the resources to get educated in the way that they would like. It doesn’t mean they are quitters. I get the point but disagree with the philosophy.

    • @nicolem889
      @nicolem889 Рік тому

      If it is a “socialist” era that would mean the public would have the resources to get the education they need

  • @logicalchaos9008
    @logicalchaos9008 Рік тому +5

    Where's helmet chick?

  • @argusmckenally4805
    @argusmckenally4805 Рік тому

    He should really read Hosea little book in the Bible who bought back his wife who cheated on him. That man had more love for his wife than most do today. So no there is men and there's women. Both men that you are talking about miss the mark. I really could careless about high or low status men. There's also men who are at standard that are committed to their own, that includes their wife. We have developed this idea men can do whatever they want and women are slaves. Or women are to be men and men are to be women. In practically that is not how it works. That's what our society teaches us.

  • @fortheed3128
    @fortheed3128 Рік тому +1

    Blah blah.