MICROFLAKES Over Black Base vs White Base (Myth Busting Experiment)

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  • @dipyourcar
    @dipyourcar  2 роки тому +56

    What do you think.. Flakes over white hit or miss?

    • @stunna1050
      @stunna1050 2 роки тому +40

      Miss. This should stop the requests, that's for sure.

    • @veneraberens4653
      @veneraberens4653 2 роки тому +5

      I LOVE THE GLASS BEAKER MIXER TY FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION ABOUT THIS I SEE IT DOES WORK BETTER OVER THE BLACK COMPARED TO THE WHITE I CAN SEE SPECKS BUT NOBODY THE SAME AS THE BLACK TY
      AND HAPPY NEW YEAR FONZI AND CREW

    • @IcecalGamer
      @IcecalGamer 2 роки тому +12

      I didn't expect white to work. But thank you for pointing it out so clearly.
      Fonzie... :) i have an idea: Have you tried flakes over gray? :) as gray, as middle ground as possible. Still small scale ofc.
      As a legit test: Start with white speed shape, go through a gray scale, end up on black. Where is the point of grayness where flakes stop making us want to wipe the "dirt" off ?
      PS: Keep up the bloopers :))

    • @gilou275
      @gilou275 2 роки тому +14

      you were right, it doesn't look good. thanks for doing it though ! cheers

    • @veneraberens4653
      @veneraberens4653 2 роки тому +3

      @@IcecalGamer GMORNING HAPPY NEW YEAR I WONDER THE SAME QUESTION
      NOT YELLING ALMOST COMPLETELY BLIND 🙂🖖🏻💯

  • @mehmup
    @mehmup 2 роки тому +150

    I always wondered why I never saw any flakes over a white base, and I agree it just makes the paint look dirty.

    • @SeanStrife
      @SeanStrife 2 роки тому +2

      I don't know if I'd say dirty. I'd say it looks more like the paint's chipping off.

    • @CpillarTahoe614
      @CpillarTahoe614 2 роки тому +2

      Looks dirty or peppered by tar

    • @TheReverb1
      @TheReverb1 2 роки тому +1

      Hi; ALL new cars that are painted with pearls are painted with "3" stage paints. White base; the pearl and the clear.
      Also I do not understand why these guys mix the tints (like in other videos) with the clear. The tints are applied then the clear over.

    • @chrishayes5755
      @chrishayes5755 Рік тому +1

      could maybe look cool if you tape off a certain area in a pattern and hit that only.

  • @zacharyfett2491
    @zacharyfett2491 2 роки тому +72

    I love the clear beaker you’ve been using. The visualization of mixing the colors and elements is really fun to watch.
    Definitely looks better over the black!

  • @robertshunter
    @robertshunter 2 роки тому +68

    The only difference, compared to a dirty white car, is the consistency of the coverage. What a plus!

  • @wglnaeclipse8715
    @wglnaeclipse8715 2 роки тому +42

    It pains me to say this, but Fonzie is right (j/k). Definitely better over black base. Not only does the flake make the white base look "dirty", but the brightness of the white base washes out any effect of the flake.

  • @CoolsyNitro
    @CoolsyNitro 2 роки тому +57

    These flakes would never have turned out well, but transparent flakes would actually work extremely well! You should try to get your hands on some transparent flakes and do a white base vs black base comparison!

    • @gofigure84
      @gofigure84 2 роки тому +2

      They did something like that when they did a dark vs white base with white powder hypershifts

    • @CoolsyNitro
      @CoolsyNitro 2 роки тому +5

      @@gofigure84 Pearl powders have been quite the staple of the channel and they definitely look good. I don’t believe Fonzie has ever used a transparent metal flake however and I think he’ll be blown away by how good transparent metal flakes look over both a white and black base, considering that transparent metal flakes usually contain holographic/colour shifting properties!

    • @gofigure84
      @gofigure84 2 роки тому +2

      @@CoolsyNitro the hyper shift line is color shifting. Like chameleon green to blue to purple. Red to black. Probably over half or white base powder that over white give a subtle shift that resembles pearls. Over black you get the full color effect. Not quite transparent metal but still.

  • @sachachanyan
    @sachachanyan 2 роки тому +9

    You were right. It’s a fail.... looks like skillfully sprinkled on dirt, but it was worth the experiment.....

    • @SeanStrife
      @SeanStrife 2 роки тому +1

      I actually think it makes it look more like the paint is cracking.

  • @johnspetkitty81
    @johnspetkitty81 2 роки тому +20

    I can't say I'm surprised by the results. It's very similar to putting holo over nail polish. It ALWAYS shows best over a dark base.

  • @paulahrendt1766
    @paulahrendt1766 8 місяців тому +1

    You are 100% correct! It looks like dirt over white. Ugh! I'd love to see some kind of paint that would provide the rainbow like shimmer my sister's vinal bike seat from the 70's had over white. I think it was 1976 bi-centennial themed bike with long seat & chopper style handle bars. Could pull wheelies so easy on it. Lol. Had red white blue hassles coming out of white handle bar grips. 🎉

  • @Boosted_E_
    @Boosted_E_ 2 роки тому +10

    IMO, the white side just looks dirty and I couldn't see any difference between the 4 different flakes on the white. I thought the silver and gold looked the best over the black and would love to see the gold flakes on a black base on a car. The blue and green flakes were hard to see their dominant colors.
    Other than that, keep up the great videos!

  • @Tevatron044
    @Tevatron044 2 роки тому +3

    I did a gold glitter baseball bat with a white base. I think you need a much higher concentration and maybe even more coats to get a white base to work, but the result is actually not that bad. I still believe the best base will always be a darker shade of the flake/ glitter color. That way, the base accentuates and complements the flake, giving it a little boost. White overpowers the flake and black may take a little away from the sparkle.

  • @thegooddoctor6719
    @thegooddoctor6719 2 роки тому +18

    Yeah the Flake over a white base is not a good idea. Try a Flake Pearl combo. Love the content as usual !!!!!

    • @xxShadowxx-dy2wo
      @xxShadowxx-dy2wo 2 роки тому +2

      i agree, pearl flake is sick, this? a lot better over the black

  • @seethruhead7119
    @seethruhead7119 2 роки тому +2

    I want to see what it would look like if you use 5-10grams of a colorshift into 20 grams of a solid pearl that matches your base coat. Will the solid pearl + base coat give you a nice pearl and the colorshift add some accents to it? Or would you be better off putting down a base pearl and 2 5 gram colorshift coats on TOP of the base pearl. Have you ever tried this out in a video?

  • @simcptmike
    @simcptmike 2 роки тому

    You're right Fonzie! All the white look bad. But that blue on black base looks so good!!! Like a whole other Galaxy!

  • @keeperofthegood
    @keeperofthegood 2 роки тому +1

    Chef: I use White Pepper
    Peon: Why?
    Chef: Black Pepper looks like fly poop

  • @timblackwell3196
    @timblackwell3196 2 роки тому

    Wash out on the white base. You were right. I do Love the Royal Blue. Would love to see that over a Blue base color. Would look incredible!

  • @CallumCosgrove
    @CallumCosgrove 2 роки тому +11

    You were definitely right about that 👍🏼 great content, love watching these episodes 👌🏼

  • @1GODDOTCOM
    @1GODDOTCOM 2 роки тому

    Definitely right, over white is a miss looking at this sample.

  • @tj_offroad
    @tj_offroad 2 роки тому +10

    Is it me or do microflakes just look bad to anyone else, it's like someone spilled glitter all over their car. I agree with him though that the white base looks especially bad. More pearls and candies please.

    • @SeanStrife
      @SeanStrife 2 роки тому

      I don't mind the glittery look on the car, but I do have to agree; it looks terrible on a white base.

    • @ElwinWay
      @ElwinWay 2 роки тому

      Yea I'm not a fan of these.

  • @tinmanpickle7212
    @tinmanpickle7212 Рік тому +1

    Yes they do look better on a darker base,your Right

  • @free4fire
    @free4fire 2 роки тому +1

    On the plus side, if you go with the flakes over white, you can drive through mosquito and fly swarms in summer and nobody will notice afterwards.
    Also please do Mandarin Orange base and Burnt Copper Alloy mixed with ZTU HyperShift on top. :)

  • @dloyal09
    @dloyal09 2 роки тому +1

    Definitely better over black. This could be an entire series testing several different base coats the same way. I would love to see a deep dark purple with the silver flakes

  • @poorperformance8850
    @poorperformance8850 2 роки тому +2

    I want to see a mix of one of everything,solid base, one pearl, flake, hypershift, juice, candy etc. Even if you keep same main color in all products it still should be different in a way

    • @crazylarryjr
      @crazylarryjr 2 роки тому

      That would be real expensive and a real thick layer of paint. This stuff was designed specifically, for the person that really wants to change things every 6 months to a year. Making it budget friendly vs a real paint job, that's the purpose of these. Throwing the kitchen sink at it (What you are proposing), would be expensive as hell for something that might last a year. It'd probably last less as the thickness of the paint would make it practically fall off on it's own. This is going on each additive (over base) getting it's own clearcoat

    • @poorperformance8850
      @poorperformance8850 2 роки тому

      @@crazylarryjr did you miss all the other videos like the blackest paint or mood ring. Experimentation is fun they can be mixed not all layered

  • @speedmom1702
    @speedmom1702 2 роки тому

    Yup, I think you were right, Fonzie, just looks like grey specs on white, unless the camera just doesn't pick up what the naked eye can see. Looks great on the black, though, very subtle.

  • @jutto64
    @jutto64 2 роки тому +1

    At what shade of base "grey" do the flake colours pop? Is it a gradual change or do we get it all highlighting at once?

  • @johnniemnemonic73
    @johnniemnemonic73 2 роки тому +1

    I agree with you, none of them look good over the white base. My favourites are the silver and the gold over black base. Thanks for doing the experiment and sharing the video. 👍

  • @JohnYoshii
    @JohnYoshii 2 роки тому +1

    Nord grey with black interference please! I really want to paint my truck with this. I don’t know how it will turn though. That grey with black at angles I feel like would be killer but have no idea if that would be the result. Any ideas? Great videos. I’ve been binge watching for the past 2 days

  • @BrandonMGrimm
    @BrandonMGrimm Рік тому +1

    I'd love to see the micro flakes over their coresponding color base... Silver holo over Avalanche Gray, Gold Holo over Dessert Tan? (or similar)... Emerald over and Army Green.

  • @reesebales
    @reesebales 2 роки тому +1

    how about a video similar to this but with the 4 types of interference pearls? wanting to know how purple interference would look over a black base

  • @BobOShea
    @BobOShea 2 роки тому +4

    I want to grab a towel and clean it!

  • @aaronnhuffman6842
    @aaronnhuffman6842 2 роки тому

    That royal blue over the black base is honestly so good.

  • @aaronsalmon216
    @aaronsalmon216 2 роки тому

    You were right. On the white side just looked like dirt. I would like to see emerald green full scale on a black base. Thanks for this comparison.

  • @marjorieford1823
    @marjorieford1823 2 роки тому

    LMAO your bloopers were the best part of the show!!

  • @SimPoolman
    @SimPoolman 2 роки тому

    I didn’t notice any downfall of it on the white other than the contrast of the sparkle. I actually enjoy it on the white. It’s subtle.

  • @jasoneller761
    @jasoneller761 Рік тому +1

    Best on black

  • @astrinymris9953
    @astrinymris9953 7 місяців тому

    I have to admit Fonzie was right. I think I got a faint shimmer from the gold holographic on the white side, but mostly it was unimpressive. I wouldn't say it made the white look dirty, because the application was so even it definitely looked looked deliberate. It looked almost like a faint granite pattern. Not much of a difference from solid white, but okay.

  • @Secondchancesarerare
    @Secondchancesarerare 4 місяці тому

    Serious question, what guns do you guys use and how do they compare to the traditional gravity feed spray guns most of us have? Are they better when it comes to orange peel, do they spray smoother?

  • @reydelsol7026
    @reydelsol7026 2 роки тому +1

    HEY! I got notified! YEAH! Did you do anything different with the stirring portion? Normally I skip through it but this time I was transfixed. Different music, anything? On white they all reminded me of Chicago winters, dirty snow. Thank you for your time and energy. Peace and Love

    • @13Dixiefried
      @13Dixiefried 2 роки тому

      Just using a clear beaker instead of a bucket.

  • @patriciahunt9818
    @patriciahunt9818 2 роки тому

    I do definitely agree with you they just look like a thick layer of dust on the white but the blue and silver look great on the black
    Have an awesome new year

  • @DowneastBeast
    @DowneastBeast 2 роки тому

    I thought the color flakes were going to look good but you're right, it just looked like dirt. How would it look with a little tint in the clear though? Like white base then several coats of tinted clear with the microflake?

  • @vineousvondrake2456
    @vineousvondrake2456 Рік тому

    yeah pure white just washes out any effect the flakes would have you'd have to do a bunch more coats and it'd probably still not work right and black can be too dark and hide some of the effects maybe try it with either a slate or gunmetal gray and see how that works

  • @spookypuptarts511
    @spookypuptarts511 2 роки тому

    I gotta agree with you on the white not looking too good. I wonder, would larger flakes like the silver superflake from a few videos ago make a difference? I still don't think it would look better than it would on the black anyway, but I'm curious

  • @bryanpulling7932
    @bryanpulling7932 2 роки тому

    Thank you for doing this video, I have a white convertible and have been interested in dipping my car.

  • @rickallen9864
    @rickallen9864 2 роки тому +1

    You where right. And they all look similar

  • @pennybrooks9038
    @pennybrooks9038 7 місяців тому

    You were absolutely right, Fonzie

  • @rf937dave7
    @rf937dave7 2 роки тому

    The black base makes all the colors stand out more than the white but I can't decide on the best. They all look beautiful. You did a too good a job lol. The white may look good in person. Love white colors as well

  • @anishpatel5715
    @anishpatel5715 2 роки тому

    Kinda the same thing I've learned with this. Base should always be darker than pigment. Otherwise you do get stunting that doesn't look great... However when painting with crushed glass it's a little different especially if you're mixing the color into the glass

  • @klampykixx
    @klampykixx 2 роки тому +1

    I definitely think nardo grey is where it's at,
    The little specs seem very grey/silver
    Oh and match it with a double pigment load

  • @MrBibertiger
    @MrBibertiger 2 роки тому +1

    so you was right it just looks like an even sprayed dirt coat on white base and all of the holographic effect just seems to me to dissapear into nowhere

  • @SherrieandherLykoiGaia
    @SherrieandherLykoiGaia 2 роки тому

    Definitely looks good on the black base, and nothing good on the white. You were right!

  • @dhanssolo
    @dhanssolo 2 роки тому

    Are flakes mixed in with clear coat or are they more or less one last layer on top of base coat before clear? im thinking of getting into painting and want to practice on my old audi

  • @lloydwallbridge_121
    @lloydwallbridge_121 2 роки тому

    You were right Fonze. They look much better on the black which makes it look 3D but on white it just looks like over spray 🥺

  • @Tyr1333
    @Tyr1333 2 роки тому

    I think your right about the white base it does look dirty looking.
    But the black base looks pretty sweet 👌.

  • @hymnodyhands
    @hymnodyhands Рік тому

    As a fractal artist, the results of this did not surprise me ... even in the digital world of small pixels, most often things darker than white on a white background look like a pattern of dirt, whereas on black, the colors pop.

  • @Navidsang
    @Navidsang Рік тому

    It's like STAR'S in the night sky , imagin STAR'S in the sunny day . Stars looks nice in the darkness of the night

  • @Terry-sb4bk
    @Terry-sb4bk Рік тому

    You were right because I tried it but mine came out on the white but I may have had more pearl added. GOD BLESS

  • @amberya_r33
    @amberya_r33 2 місяці тому

    I have a BMW 135i in grey and I need to have it resprayed but I want to add flake to the color. I can’t find any examples online of how different colored flakes will show up on the grey. Can you do a video of this?

  • @caliban2805
    @caliban2805 2 роки тому

    Definitely better with black base but does the glossy level make a difference like glossy black vs. musou black?

  • @T.S.T2014
    @T.S.T2014 2 роки тому

    Great demonstration, Royal Blue or Emerald on black all the way for me.

  • @moseswj3
    @moseswj3 2 роки тому +1

    You got it this time Fonz! I personally think they all look grainy, I'll stick to pearls

  • @Velkanis
    @Velkanis 2 роки тому

    question
    if the base was grey instead of white would it turn into another dirty white or would it be more like looking at black? or maybe an in between?

  • @VolkFolk11
    @VolkFolk11 18 днів тому

    Would grey be any better? Possible make the flakes show up but not be quite as dark?

  • @ryry562000
    @ryry562000 2 роки тому

    Over the white was a huge miss, but man that Gold holographic over the black popped beautifully

  • @MultiTimelady
    @MultiTimelady 2 роки тому

    If you want subtle ,use small flakes over white. The gold and the silver works the best.

  • @sticky9053
    @sticky9053 2 роки тому

    White side looks like a well dirtied car, you were right Fonzie! Would love to see an Orange Candy :)

  • @oscrfsh
    @oscrfsh 2 роки тому

    That first one that was sprayed I couldn't stop thinking how is he not getting over spray on the other ones lmao...took me a min

  • @elizabethhallett5060
    @elizabethhallett5060 Рік тому

    would you be able to do these on a darker grey or silver base? and not on the white, just looks dirty. black looks better.

  • @curtpoppenhouse2621
    @curtpoppenhouse2621 2 роки тому

    You were absolutely right white base looks awful, like you have been driving down the yellow, blue, green road Whatever color the road it was dusty.

  • @jamesh5460
    @jamesh5460 2 роки тому

    Yup. Some of the white base looked like "dirt". You are right.

  • @patrickriggin280
    @patrickriggin280 2 роки тому

    Well you are 100% right this time every single one of those colors doesn’t look good with the white base! you can barely tell it’s there and it just looks like a dirty white paint job

  • @Keeling16
    @Keeling16 2 роки тому

    My question is can you combine different metal flakes? Say a red blue silver and a green over a black? a Shiney oil slick look?

  • @jerryffvt3722
    @jerryffvt3722 Рік тому

    I was surprised that ALL of them over white, just looked so 'dirty'...and really I only liked the silver holographic over black..it stood out the most. I mean the others were subtle, but teh silver stood out the most, reminded me of the 'galaxy paint job'

  • @larryharris2598
    @larryharris2598 2 роки тому +4

    Nope none of them work

  • @samuelswincer9612
    @samuelswincer9612 2 роки тому

    Could you please do a video covering how you recommend to clean the gun and dip canisters

  • @jamesrobinson678
    @jamesrobinson678 2 роки тому

    Only good thing is the flake over white would b good for like a special edition paint like old Halloween or another barn find or something on those roads.

  • @xtrmbrazen6153
    @xtrmbrazen6153 2 роки тому +1

    Well the 1 thing is....I'm glad you did it before we waste our money and time doing it. Thank you for doing that and showing us. You're right it is dirty lol.

  • @terryturman8495
    @terryturman8495 Рік тому +1

    I've seen white cars that have a pearl essence too them how come this doesn't work ?
    5/5

  • @guilthedamned1933
    @guilthedamned1933 2 роки тому

    I find they are looking like trash on both base. In my opinion, you should only use similar color flakes to base coat. Ex: mid to dark green on lime base or vise versa. Too huge of a difference between base and flake will always bring that grainy/dirty look. Keep it smooth!

  • @JvariW
    @JvariW 2 роки тому

    The silver holographic over white is like the aftermath of a little girls bday party… glitter everywhere

  • @shawnst-martin5274
    @shawnst-martin5274 2 роки тому +1

    If you like the look of brake dust all over your paint then microflakes ove white is à goid choice

  • @nayl.900
    @nayl.900 2 роки тому

    I really need you to use these shapes for all your pearls!!!! Trying to find something for a white base 🤔

  • @catgynt9148
    @catgynt9148 2 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing your journey with us. Your combination of colors and flakes are insightful. Wishing you and your family another blessed new year filled with peace, continued prosperity, good health and opportunities for happiness (on camera and off). Greetings from NE Ohio. Peace.

  • @mous3203
    @mous3203 2 роки тому

    I definitely think you're right. All the whiles look dirty. The black base though! 👌
    Id love to see something like ZTG hyperahift on a white base

  • @davidbell7091
    @davidbell7091 2 роки тому

    gold was my fav, would have been cool if you could have only flashed the black with a very small amount of glitter. this method overwhelms the base.

  • @thatunknownguy2680
    @thatunknownguy2680 2 роки тому

    I couldn't even tell which color was over the black side. Thanks for the label at the bottom of the video. Lol. Also, you should get a little RC car and drive around with the speed shape as the body. Would be interesting to see.

  • @TheFanatic340
    @TheFanatic340 2 роки тому +1

    I would love a bright purple flake over a vibrant blue base

  • @madmanjack6923
    @madmanjack6923 8 місяців тому

    You were RIGHT !

  • @OG10Speed
    @OG10Speed 2 роки тому

    thank you for dropping the flakes into the jars differently, very soothing. Now dip over an engine and start it up, for science!

  • @Paulster2
    @Paulster2 2 роки тому

    IMHO, I don't think it works on either the black or the white. Your first assertion was correct that it just makes white look dirty. The reason why I don't think on either one is because the purpose of this stuff is the holographic effect and color shift. You don't see the shift on either base color. Part of that might be the medium, though. For the color shift to come through, you need long flat panels to give a broader color sweep. You don't get that effect on the models because there aren't any real flat spots on them.

  • @johnbull6909
    @johnbull6909 18 днів тому

    How much of the paint mix do you actually use? Seems like a lot to shoot such a small sample.

  • @heidinicolaisen4736
    @heidinicolaisen4736 2 роки тому

    To me, the only speedshape that really stood out was the silver holographic over black base ❤
    Awesome content as usual
    HAPPY NEW YEAR TO Y'ALL ❤❤❤

  • @user-dk6bm4gu5w
    @user-dk6bm4gu5w 2 роки тому

    Yep. Just looks dirty over white.
    Would it be crazy to take those same speed shapes and put a candy topcoat over it?

  • @ryandubyah2345
    @ryandubyah2345 2 роки тому

    Ain’t gonna lie Fonz, the flakes over white weren’t effective at all, they looked dirty as you’d suggested. Over black though, the silver and the gold really took me. They blue and green were nice close-up but that silver especially just popped. That’s just my opinion, other folks may prefer the subtleties of the coloured flake and I respect that. But that silver crushed it far as I saw

  • @rr85
    @rr85 2 роки тому

    Well I'll be damned, Fonzie knows that he's talking about. You win this round👍

  • @jmWhyMe
    @jmWhyMe 2 роки тому

    It may be a camera effect, but... clearly the white was a fail across the board, but the only one that worked on the black was the silver. I thought the emerald, royal and gold were fails against the black as well - not really enough contrast or something...

  • @theresat4782
    @theresat4782 2 роки тому

    Sometimes it helps to show why you shouldn't do something before someone goes spending money on something that won't turn out the way it looks in their head.

  • @runnerfrog13
    @runnerfrog13 2 роки тому

    Ha, this was literally a question I just asked on a different flake video!! Perfect video

  • @vdubster
    @vdubster 2 роки тому

    Happy new year dude 🤙🏻🇬🇧

  • @alexandrerosa8912
    @alexandrerosa8912 2 роки тому

    Gold on Black, looks like one of that Hubble space pictures with 1625538363 stars and galaxies

  • @davidtrotochau3402
    @davidtrotochau3402 2 роки тому

    You are 100 percent right flakes completely wash out on the white