Imagine how credible you are when there's thousands of people coming as early as possible to watch your video. That means that the community loves you, and they sure do have a reason for it. We trust your reviews more than anybody else's
I posted this reply as a reply to your original message but felt it needed to be here too. You have no idea how much your content is appreciated! I have bought several products based off your videos and even more so, you've stopped me from buying others saving me money! You're the only UA-camr whose videos I watch regardless if I need the product or not because the knowledge is priceless. I appreciate everything you do and I thank you for your hard work and dedication!!
Agreed. This is the best channel of it's kind in the world. It's been helping me around the house/garage for a few years now, so I brought it to work with me and now its helping there too. I'm in the US Army Corps of Engineers and I've turned several of my coworkers in our district onto this channel. It is positively influencing our equipment purchasing decisions, saving the district money and giving us invaluable intel on certain products we use and abuse here everyday!👍👍👍
It happens all the time and I fail to select the best lineup of brands to test. So, I would greatly appreciate your help. I periodically ask for a vote on which brands to test. The “vote” notification only goes out to those who have both a) subscribed and b) selected the “bell”. ua-cam.com/channels/2rzsm1Qi6N1X-wuOg_p0Ng.html Diablo Hole Saw: amzn.to/31czGJL Milwaukee Hole Dozer: amzn.to/34bG1ap MK Morse: amzn.to/3l1W0xC Irwin: amzn.to/3l1H0A0 DeWalt 2x: amzn.to/3hcI5m1 Dewalt Impact Ready: amzn.to/326qOF1 DeWalt Carbide: amzn.to/3aR5Y0p Lenox: amzn.to/3iWVUFE TCT Carbide: amzn.to/3iUHZ2R Milwaukee Shockwave: amzn.to/322AxMq Drill Hog: amzn.to/329BF0K Bosch HB100: amzn.to/2QabO37 By the way, the testing is having a positive impact. In addition to helping viewers select the best products for their needs, product manufacturers are watching these videos. Several manufacturers have informed me that they are working to make their products even better. So, thank you for supporting the channel and I’m looking forward to many more product test reviews in the future. Looking forward to reading your comments. Best regards, Todd
Bicycle wheel, Briggs and Stratton 5 horse, DeWalt battery drill: $100 Producing more accurate real world results than a standards testing lab: Priceless. There are some things money can’t buy. For everything else, there’s Project Farm.
I once worked at a HVAC contractor store where we had a hole saw display behind the counter. The display had every size known to man. Being a musician first and foremost, I quickly learned how to tap out the song Happy Birthday using a pencil, so when it was a cusomer's birthday, I could pay homage to their day on the hole saws. Then, I started learning Xmas songs. My boss finally had it when I learned Hava Nagila for our Jewish friends. Had I not been stopped, I would have learned some bag pipe tunes and maybe something by Charlie Daniels.
@@ProjectFarm Todd, I will be over with the harmonica, washboard.and a pencil. You supply the hole saws. I buy the libations. You'll be playing in no time.
These are meant for making knock outs in electrical panels/sheet metal. Look at how fine the teeth are, and how thin/shallow they are. The dewalt hole saw before it is the same design. Not meant for thicker metal.
@@MMSieBreeze I don't disagree with you one bit. Production equals wealth. That being said... If you have broken people, you will have a broken society, a broken economy etc.. This problem goes deeper than mere .. jobs or whatever.
Man, pretty soon I'm going to have a garage full of tools and products that actually work because they will all be Project Farm Tested and Approved! Keep it up!!!
haha! I've been on a mission to buy quality tools that will last my lifetime. No more crap that goes in the bin in 12 months. PF is a great help in this endeavour.
Just off the top of my head, I strongly suspect that the relatively poor rigidity of the drill press arrangement here without the mandrel might have significantly hurt the carbide-tipped saws. They're not good at all under loads that press off-axis and will tend to chip or fracture the carbide. I'd love to see those re-tested in a setup that does not allow so much side-slip! Perhaps a method for this could be pre-drilling a hole to guide it, and replacing the drill with a matched diameter piece of blank drill rod or something to guide in the pre-drilled hole. Great test, thanks, man! Fun to watch as always. :)
Yea I noticed the run-out too and it definitely isn’t ideal for carbide, but at the same time how many people using these are going to be mounting them in super rigid stuff like a mill?
@@Turbochargedtwelve I'm with you, testing the carbide the way it works best isn't a real world test, sort of making it pointless. Hell, I'm sure most hole saws are used in a powered hand drill, even if on thinner metals.
@@Turbochargedtwelve Not all that many, but that's one of the purposes of the mandrel, to keep the saw running in a single path, without a large amount of runout.
@@AlexanderMason1 Actually, I do know what I am talking about having previously worked for companies that did exactly that!!! Check the US laws as that is the bare minimum needed for them to be allowed to put the "Made in USA" tag on anything.
@@RealCyclops still, “made in USA with global materials” means just that, made inthe USA with materials from elsewhere. Also something in China and packaged in the USA cannot be said to be made in the USA. You are exaggerating for added drama.
Seeing the “lifetime tooth break warranty” on the Milwaukee sparked an idea. Maybe you should follow up on some of these warranties to compare the customer service of brands. I wouldn’t limit to just the hole saws. Having good customer service is something I look for in companies and usually influences my decision to purchase their product.
Yep, good idea. When talking to them, I would probably leave out the torture test, then decline to follow though on the warranty replacement because of what you actually did to them. By that point you probably would know all you need in terms of how easy the warranty process is.
This is the first video of yours I have seen, and I am instantly a fan. Your intro is brief, product descriptions include all the relevant information (so you don't end up with hundreds of questions in the comments asking you the same thing over and over, I'm sure), tests are thorough, precise, and offer every measurement imaginable to determine which item performed best, etc. You just got a subscriber and my husband and I are going to binge on your videos now!
Lol... I've started keeping a Notebook app open while watching his videos (and rewatching the old ones) so I can keep tabs on what products performed the best. It helps me if I'm looking for something.
@@ProjectFarm They all suck at it, but it is a very difficult cut without coolant. Cubic boron nitride would have handled the armor plate easy. Try with lighter speed and feed.
@@julianpetkov8320 Agree with you, too hard feed on that old belt geared machine will chip off pieces of the carbide teeth every time it stalls. Im used to industrial stuff, drills with real gearboxes and coolant, i bet i could get at least 100 holes from that dewalt carbide. One can even feed them hard since there is no risk of stalling when in the lowest gears.
@@pflaffik I have trick for the home shop for tempered steels. I touch the hole to be with a stick welder for about two seconds. Carbon electrodes are best for the purpose. They are made for cutting. It will soften the spot. Like you said, there is no point wasting carbide on hobby machines.
Under normal circumstances, I'd say that he voided the warranty by abusing them, but it would be a very good test to see how many hoops the manufacturers make you jump through to get a replacement. He wouldn't when have to do the replacement, just get to the point where he could send it in then decline.
@@AlexusMaximusDE I think after subscribing and watching the videos you will begin to care more and more.... as a consumer don't you want to know where (on which product) to spend your money?... AND who is working to make the best product for you and not just taking your money and giving you what they know is crap...
I have studied science and technology my whole life. I worked in a machine shop that did all the work for the San Diego city bus system and I say....you are the man. That last phrase is supposed to be in capitals! Your videos started out home spun and technically great. Your attitude is number one. Now you have moved into the field of materials science. So thorough, insightful....dang! And the timing of your smiles, quite telling. You are like the Johnny Carson of product review vids on utube. Don’t get a swelled head (another amazing attribute, that you have not). Your videos seem to have benefitted from better resources. And you put them to the most apt aspects. Merry Christmas and thanx.
That's a good idea. He could test the tensile strength, durability around sharp corners/tight bends, how well they hold up when lightly frayed, and resistance to UV/weathering/salt water/oil/grease/friction. I've also wondered how much twisting the band actually reduces its strength. I'm guessing that in some of the cheaper brands, the strap could outlast the ratchet and the hooks!
This would be fantastic. And please include the retractable ones that you can purchase through McMaster. They are so very convenient to use, but I don't know if they are as durable.
I noticed that almost in every of these amazing tool comparison videos, the Irwin tools always excel compared to their price. Its something else and I love it. I talked my boss into buying Irwin holesaw set to be used in our small metal shop and it actually worked much better than the Karnach hole saws that we were using since 2003. Much cheaper and marginally better. My boss has started to watch your videos after that :)
@@ProjectFarm hey man, I suggest you make a video on comparing the different types of turbo nozzles for pressure washers. If they're all the same or if some are better than others. Just the turbo style
I have been purchasing “PF” recommended products from engine oil to glues. You need to patent your logo and get royalties for every product sold from these large companies. Thank You for all the testing you do.
Absolutely not. The lack of sponsorship and royalties from the products themselves is what makes the reviews unbiased. The very second I find out that a reviewer profits from the product manufacturer or seller is the very second that I dismiss all sense of credibility and trust. Wranglerstar is an example of a youtuber that uses sponsorships to promote products. I asked UA-cam to never recommend any of his videos for that reason. I don't hate him; I just don't trust sponsored reviews or any reviews where the reviewer is compensated by the seller or manufacturer.
I’ve been having a time and a half finding decent hole saws and then I thought to myself “I will set what project farm thinks” and here I am! Thank you again for the content you make!
Lol I just repeated your comment greenlee 7/8 ,1-1/8, 1-3/8 set is great...I was also saying how the impact holesaws are only good with the 1/2-7/8” ones cause the larger ones warp...due to thin wall...electricians rule the tools!!
I needed to cut a 1 inch hole in mild steel channel iron o my car trailer. I watched the Project Farm video to select a brand. I could not find the brand I wanted but I was able to get the Diablo saw at Homeless Depot. Thanks PF!!!! The saw made it thru the steel with a hand held drill in less than three minutes. I had to hold it in an awkward position with limited visibility. I backed off the RPM and pressed maybe 15-20 lbs weight on bit. I was thrilled and delighted that it cut a hole so easily. Thanks for the video… it saved me so much trial & error time. Now I can new trailer light wiring.
I use a Diablo kit with the quick connect head. I freaking love it! I cut very little metal, but it is so nice being able to swap sizes so easy. They seem to hold up extremely well. I have had to replace the pilot bit a few times, but not the hole saw itself.
@@ProjectFarm also watermark your graphs in some way with the PF logo, they'll inevitably start getting screencapped and put onto websites without permission. Naturally, some will go to the effort to remove it but there's no stopping those kinds of people. It's mostly just a deterrent.
Todd! Wow! I'm grateful you're out there man. Your integrity comes through in your work, which I hope you find fantastic success in. Your win is everyones win. We all want to see more people online like yourself. You're showing people so much more then just these products. You're showing people it's ok to simply make honest, good content. You're really raising the bar on so many levels here. Powerful stuff man, keep up the great work
Today I am drilling some 1" holes in a steel frame for rubber grommets for pex plumbing. I was most disappointed with the performance of the Bosch, Milwaukee, and Makita hole saws. Some of them lasted only cutting four holes. The Lenox 1" hole saw saved my day. So far I have cut 25 holes with this saw and there is still lots more life in this saw. That Lenox was imported directly from Amazon.
Best Channel on UA-cam, by far. Right to the point with useful and unbiased testing. No annoying distractions like music, politics or wokeness either. I have actually been using Lenox hole saws and mandrels for many years. They work well, are reasonably priced and they are also readily available at Lowe's. Recently, I was away from home and needed a 3.5 inch hole saw in an emergency. I picked up a Hercules hole saw and Warrior mandrel at Harbor Freight. Both devices worked surprisingly well. Granted, probably not as well as the Lenox would have done, but pretty impressive none the less. I just wanted to pass on the information. Keep up the great work!
My daughter and I were watching The King of Random a few minutes ago. They were testing the hardness of a few rattle can clearcoats. I said, "This is like what I keep asking Todd on Project Farm to do." And then they mentioned you and your channel! Last night I watched a video of someone "testing" tools. A commenter said, "Check out Project Farm if you want to see how to do a thorough, unbiased test." Pretty cool to see your influence across UA-cam.
@@ProjectFarm Hi it is not the hardness that I would worry about, it is the UV resistance. This goes for inside or outside, UV means more than just sun light. It has a lot of chemicals in the bonding that make it far superior in the hardness than any clearcoat ( hardness of a few rattle can clearcoats) by it self. I will say this, just buy any 3M product and you will not be steered to far from wrong. 3M is AMERICAN MADE.
Makes me happy to hear ppl recommend & give credit to PF. Lord knows I'm forever spreading the word of PF's work. I don't have an audience like those channels but I do gladly recommended quality products, companies & PF everywhere I can.
I never skip an ad on any of your videos. Your dedication and hard work just to help us save a couple bucks really means a lot. Responding to our comments shows you really care for everyone. Trust me i speak for everyone! Glad you and the Farm family are doing well during this pandemic.
Anyone else notice how he pronounces “wheel?” It’s just like how Stewie from Family Guy pronounces “cool whip.” 9:56 As always, great video. I’m a big fan of the hole dozers.
Here's another idea, multi-tool blades. I use my vibration saw (multi tool), to cut a lot of metal, screws, wood, etc. and I go through blades like crazy. It would be nice to know which ones are the strongest because they are quite expensive.
Would be interesting to try to claim on the “lifetime warranty” they offer. Send a letter or call customer service saying it wore out the first day of use. See what they offer !
When some company writes in the package "lifetime warranty", No one really understands what it really means... Your 'life time' or the tool? A tool doesn't have a "life time", only "wear and tear" and Everything 'wears and tears', doesn't it? it is really a "term" open to 'interpretation'... Like you've said, it could 'wear out' in A Day! And that would be the "life" of the tool! See what I mean? Gee...
You're actually paying for 6-7 bits up front. They'll 'warranty" the tool, until you figure out that shipping costs are on YOU. Drill Hog just states "lifetime warranty", there are no details to be found on their website. I hate to say it but a LOT of US companies, especially big corporations, are shady as F.
Suggestion: testing which oscillating multi-tool blade/attachment is the best for different applications such as cutting wood, nails/screws, pvc, drywall and etc. keep up the great videos!
When using your drill press I think you should raise your table so the spindle isn’t extended so far. It looked like that could have broken those really expensive one because of that wobble with how hard the carbide was
Guess I got a bad kit. 25 piece hole saw kit, and they all sucked. Melted the teeth right off. They weren't even sharp enough to do anything but burn through wood right out of the case. I still have a Milwaukee Cold set (think they were some cryo treated weirdness) that keeps going and going. I'm sad they discontinued them, probably because they lasted too long.
The Greenlee Quick Change Carbide Cutter Set Catalogue # 660 is the ONLY kit to own. I’ve been using the 7/8” (1/2 EMT) in a factory for 6 YEARS and it still eats steel easily! I have had to replace the starter drill bit a few times but the hole saws are phenomenal! It will be the only kit I’ll ever buy If I ever have to replace it. Thanks for the awesome video. I love your content. Great editing also.
I would love to see Starrett included in the saw tests. A Starrett salesman told me that most of their sales is saw blades (band saw, hacksaw, holesaw, etc). Also, please don't ever sell out.
Unusually for me, I had to use a step drill last Summer, and bought a couple before checking your video! It was only through thin mild steel, the Makita lost it's tip almost instantly, and the Titanium coated Dewalt worked perfectly! That confirms your findings!
I think the stalling of the press is an issue when it comes to grading the drill times. Saws with fewer teeth have a higher chip load and require way more torque. The stalling adds time to their count. I bet they may have done better if the press didn't stall. I bet it probably slowed a decent amount too compared to the high tooth count saws. I always appreciate your videos and tests. Looking forward to future great content!
@@markbenoit Thats the point, this channel is set towards the home owner, weekend warrior. Almost every bloke has a drill press not everyone has a mill, this test is a "real world" test
@@markbenoit Every time I've used a holesaw it was in the field with a battery drill. Usually for cutting holes in things you could never get under a drill press, let alone a mill!
@@woopimagpie exactly. Electricians and plumbers and carpenters working on houses usually can't use a drill press and they probably buy way more hole saws than machinists do. And you don't have good control of speed out in the field either. Also, you can't apply this much down force unless you are a lot stronger than me! But I still love the test.
Your experimental methods are really exceptional. I am really impressed by your use of empirical measures whenever possible, and I love your new hardness scratchers! I work at a heat treater as a metallurgist, and my favorite part of my job is figuring out why something broke or didn't work as expected. My work has some chemical and material analysis tools I think I could use to enhance your tool competitions. I'd like to work with you, let me know!
Also as an electrician, he should have tested Ideal's TKO carbide-tipped holesaw. It will cut a hole so smooth and true you'll think it was bored with Bridgeport vertical mill
@@michaels5647 Lowes sells the 4-piece set ( Ideal # 36-311 ) for $90 which drills holes for 1/2", 3/4", & 1" conduits, i.e. 7/8", 1-1/8" & 1-3/8" diameters
Project Farm great, typically the hole saws that are used are Lenox (this is a very popular brand used by plumbers) Milwaukee both the normal and “BIG HAWG” saws, Diablo and maybe dewalt. As for sizes I’d go 2 1/2, 2 9/16, 3 1/2 and 4 1/2
@@ProjectFarm the brand you tried here +Greenlee, 1½" is for 1" pipe and then maybe 3½" but I don't think your drill press will have enough power for it
@@da_ghoul9432 I used a good quality Bosch spade bit for my house. worked pretty good except the punch through was pretty rough. I switched over to an auger bit when I got to the garage and that worked much better.
I very much appreciate the videos that you make. I am on disability and I need to do as many repairs myself as I can. I have always tried to buy good tools that should last my lifetime and hopefully my stepsons as he is the only one I have to leave them to, and even when he was right out of high school I had been picking up basic hand tools and he used them and when he left for the Army his mom and I moved in together and part of what we moved was his tool box. I saw that he kept them all in great shape with no missing tool. I hope he takes care of mine as he will always be able to make money with them. Your videos help me to pick the best for what I can afford. That information is priceless. So again I thank you. I wonder if you ever start testing and things go wrong and you think wow I should have stayed in bed?
machinist checking in. real tungsten carbide shouldn't be touched by any of those vickers testers... tungsten carbide is around 2400 vickers, as compared to around 2000 for mohs 9 (corundum), around 5000 vickers for cubic boron nitride, and 10000 vickers for diamond (mohs 10). either the carbide had something on it which was being scratched like flux residue from brazing, or something very fishy was going on. the lack of rigidity in the drill press, and the feed/speed you used created a disadvantage for the carbide saws. carbide does not like to be run slowly. you're using a woodworking drill press for metalworking, and the results show it.
Absolutely, but I think this is for most people that are either using these in a handheld drill or a drill press that is pretty close to what he was using.
I always use cutting fluid with my hole saws on metal. Wonder how this would have affected the cutting times and jamming from the first test and then into the next tests. These things cost a lot of money. I like to get as much use out of then as possible. As usual, nice job👍. Always appreciate your effort.
I just watched two of the most opposite people I've ever seen . Zip ties and Bias Plies followed up with Project Farm . From dump bus burnouts to hole saws nonsense to perfect sense . What a great day !
I'm an Electrician and have made thousands of holes in mostly 12-gauge steel panels and up to 4" holes (that will take you for a ride). Yes, an odd thick steel plate, aluminum plate and steel diamond plate. I use a hand drill motor and a pilot drill (for centering). The secret is to keep your saw cool. All of yours overheated and softened the teeth. Another 'trick' is to slightly 'cock the saw sideways' in a slow orbiting motion so that only a few teeth at a time are cutting. This also keeps the saw cool and lightens the load on my drill motor. Tap Magic works the best because it evaporates quickly and it doesn't leave a mess like oil-based cutting fluids. My hole saws last a very long time when kept cool. BTW, nice vid but I rarely used a drill press when cutting with hole saws.
I recently came across your videos and I absolutely love them. Your testing is extremely thorough and comprehensive. At one time, our property had to have some fairly extensive foundation and plumbing work. This resulted in a number of areas where concrete was repaired very poorly (the ratios were nowhere near correct). I would love to see a comparison on concrete grinder discs. Thank you.
Yes, load will make a difference. Take this away though and I believe PF’s test shows which are built right and will hold up in real world use all the same.
Great video. I purchase a holesaw kit for installing a deadbolt in my front door. It is a typical, cheap, Insulated metal door. The metal is very thin. The holesaw did the job but when I tried to use it on a second door, it really struggled and took a long time for me to make the hole. Now I know what brands to consider when I have another project.
I’m a cut man/laborer for a framing company. And I kid you not I’ve gotten my boss to start watching your videos, and does he love me now. Every time we’re looking for a new tool/best one, I come home and see if you have any videos have what we are looking and report back to him the next day. You got me a raise. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THESE VIDEOS!!
Please do a "best electric screwdriver" video. I'm talking about the low torque drivers that are designed for things like driving machine screws or fasteners in flat pack furniture.
Thanks for doing this video! Very useful. Idea for a future video: Air hose fittings. Which style of quick-connect coupler translates the most torque to an impact gun or best volume to a an inflator over a set period of time, which hose material has the least friction loss, etc?
@@patricelebrasseur5649 Your dealer must be an ass then. If I ever had a dealer that wouldn't warranty something, I would intentionally break it. I only had to do that once.
as an electrician I use a lot of hole saws(different brands) but honestly when it comes to cutting metal , I would say i have had the best results with the greenle hole saws.i am surprised that you didint test them or klein tools. a great video none the less. thank you
As always, thank you for the videos. If you want to take another look at hole saws, would you consider doing tests with hand held drills? I've always heard that carbide tipped drill bits should never be used on a hand held tool because the instability will break off the carbide tips and ruin tool life. A video with tests of hand held drills and impact drivers using hole saws would be great!
Amazing unbiased video!! If I’m looking to purchase tools this is the first place I go. It’s unfortunate consumer reports doesn’t take this approach anymore. If you ever branch out into testing appliances or anything else I would follow you in that as well, thank you!!
Bosch is quite good, bahco are good as well, made in Eastern Europe. 20mm 25mm and 32mm are the commonly used ones by electricians in the UK and Europe. Tapping spray is good to use, used carefully WD40 Is also good for hole saw use. The mandrills from bosch are good, and black and decker branded "piranha" 6mm metal drilling bits are good to start off a hole saw.. Have tried many of the expensive $30/$40 and $50 ones that have broken off cutting teeth on the first hole and the mandrill bit has gone loose.. For 6mm trunking nut hole drilling black and decker piranha are very good, dorma are good. There are a few small producers in the UK and Germany that make holesaws, if I can I will get you some to try and mail them to you, hope I can find your mailing address and the postal service is working OK with the virus disruption...
Great feedback. Thank you for the offer. No need to send them unless there's enough interest in a round 2 video. I'd love to test them again. I'll check back later for viewer feedback on having a round 2 video. Thanks again!
I’m pretty sure it just means that it’s made with materials sourced globally…. The United States doesn’t necessarily have to be the source of the resources that are used to make something here.
China strong arms poor African communities and steals their resources. It's 100% made in China, the Chinese just mined the metal in Africa and Global Materials is just easier to say than Made in China with Chinese mined African resources
@@colemanadamson5943 I’m confused here. The saying “made in the USA with global materials” means made in the USA with resources from outside the USA. That’s what I’m talking about in my reply.
Imagine how credible you are when there's thousands of people coming as early as possible to watch your video. That means that the community loves you, and they sure do have a reason for it. We trust your reviews more than anybody else's
couldn't have said it any better.
Thank you very much! This feedback means a lot to me!!
@@ProjectFarm Truth is a rare commodity so your's goes a L O N G way!
Yessir
Indeed
I posted this reply as a reply to your original message but felt it needed to be here too. You have no idea how much your content is appreciated! I have bought several products based off your videos and even more so, you've stopped me from buying others saving me money! You're the only UA-camr whose videos I watch regardless if I need the product or not because the knowledge is priceless. I appreciate everything you do and I thank you for your hard work and dedication!!
Wow, thank you!
@@ProjectFarm Your welcome!
Same here! Keep up the good work.
Agreed. This is the best channel of it's kind in the world. It's been helping me around the house/garage for a few years now, so I brought it to work with me and now its helping there too. I'm in the US Army Corps of Engineers and I've turned several of my coworkers in our district onto this channel. It is positively influencing our equipment purchasing decisions, saving the district money and giving us invaluable intel on certain products we use and abuse here everyday!👍👍👍
It happens all the time and I fail to select the best lineup of brands to test. So, I would greatly appreciate your help. I periodically ask for a vote on which brands to test. The “vote” notification only goes out to those who have both a) subscribed and b) selected the “bell”. ua-cam.com/channels/2rzsm1Qi6N1X-wuOg_p0Ng.html
Diablo Hole Saw: amzn.to/31czGJL
Milwaukee Hole Dozer: amzn.to/34bG1ap
MK Morse: amzn.to/3l1W0xC
Irwin: amzn.to/3l1H0A0
DeWalt 2x: amzn.to/3hcI5m1
Dewalt Impact Ready: amzn.to/326qOF1
DeWalt Carbide: amzn.to/3aR5Y0p
Lenox: amzn.to/3iWVUFE
TCT Carbide: amzn.to/3iUHZ2R
Milwaukee Shockwave: amzn.to/322AxMq
Drill Hog: amzn.to/329BF0K
Bosch HB100: amzn.to/2QabO37
By the way, the testing is having a positive impact. In addition to helping viewers select the best products for their needs, product manufacturers are watching these videos. Several manufacturers have informed me that they are working to make their products even better. So, thank you for supporting the channel and I’m looking forward to many more product test reviews in the future. Looking forward to reading your comments. Best regards, Todd
You should do the best file
U R 1 hard working
Guy.
Keith Kuhn
Just think of it a little differently. You’re testing the best bang for the buck. Not the most expensive contractors stuff
I wish you would have included Milwaukee Carbide hole saws. I really want to know how they stack up in tough metals.
Just no more Chinese made tools.
"We're gonna test that" is the nicest way I've ever heard anyone say "bullshit!".
@Gary Garretson
Really?
Nerd
Bicycle wheel, Briggs and Stratton 5 horse, DeWalt battery drill: $100
Producing more accurate real world results than a standards testing lab: Priceless.
There are some things money can’t buy. For everything else, there’s Project Farm.
Thank you very much for the positive feedback!
Anyone else read that with the for "For everything else, there's Mastercard." voice.
Its a good review of the drill press also...
Is life? No, Demorez
😆😆😆
I know you always say “thanks for the positive feedback”, but as always, you are doing an amazing job with these reviews Todd.
I appreciate that!
@@ProjectFarm you should try the best circular saw blade for metal I have found that the diablo steel demon is pretty good.
@@zachholler8316 that would be interesting
He doesn't always say that, actually. Even when he does thank us for the feedback, I haven't seen him say "positive."
@@HelloKittyFanMan. just a nice thing to say. But I understand.
I once worked at a HVAC contractor store where we had a hole saw display behind the counter. The display had every size known to man. Being a musician first and foremost, I quickly learned how to tap out the song Happy Birthday using a pencil, so when it was a cusomer's birthday, I could pay homage to their day on the hole saws. Then, I started learning Xmas songs. My boss finally had it when I learned Hava Nagila for our Jewish friends. Had I not been stopped, I would have learned some bag pipe tunes and maybe something by Charlie Daniels.
lol. Nice!! I wish I had musical talent! I can make an engine tap and knock. Does that count? lol. Have a great week!
@@ProjectFarm Todd, I will be over with the harmonica, washboard.and a pencil. You supply the hole saws. I buy the libations. You'll be playing in no time.
@@guitartec I would definitely watch the devil went down to Georgia on hole saws, maybe followed by some metal!? Question is, do they djent?
Pics or its not true 😆
RIP Charlie Daniels
The "40% faster" on the Milwaukee Shockwave actually stands for: "The teeth wear out 40% faster"
40% faster regret
😂
😂😂😂😂
The Milwaukee Shockwave works great with my Milwaukee Fuel gen 2 impact driver, with a rated 3600 RPMs
These are meant for making knock outs in electrical panels/sheet metal. Look at how fine the teeth are, and how thin/shallow they are. The dewalt hole saw before it is the same design. Not meant for thicker metal.
I've never needed a hole saw but I'm going to watch this video with a smile on my face anyway, just like all of your videos.
Glad to hear! Thanks for watching!
"were gonna test that"
* marketing sweating intensifies *
Thanks for watching.
Good ol "marketing dept" trying to earn their keep..
even if it means shooting themselves in the foot.
Haha I love when he says that. Like he already knows better. It we get to watch it get rated anyway.
American made should dwarf all competitors! Enough chinese steel! Let bring back our own refineries and make American steel the best in the world!
@@MMSieBreeze I don't disagree with you one bit. Production equals wealth. That being said...
If you have broken people, you will have a broken society, a broken economy etc..
This problem goes deeper than mere .. jobs or whatever.
Manufacturers are reaching out to Project Farm and talking about how would they make their products better, you are literally changing the world 👌👍💪
when turning back in drill hog because warranty:
cashier: wtf were you drilling
him: armor plating
lol Thanks for watching.
lmao dudes responses are the best
@@colbyjackcheese9806 lol Thanks for watching.
AR isn't Armor plate🤦♂️
@@facediaper4607 he literally called it armor plating
I'd rather buy a tool that does the job slowly 2000 times than a tool that does the job quickly 20 times.
Depending on the cost of the tool and the time savings involved, the trade-off might be worth the time spent changing tooling that often.
Lemonhead and also if you can be bothered to keep buying the same tool twice a week.
True, for a general consumer. A corporation would likely buy the tools a pallet full at a time if that were the case, though.
That's what she said
Thanks for the feedback.
Man, pretty soon I'm going to have a garage full of tools and products that actually work because they will all be Project Farm Tested and Approved! Keep it up!!!
Sounds great! Thanks, will do!
haha! I've been on a mission to buy quality tools that will last my lifetime. No more crap that goes in the bin in 12 months. PF is a great help in this endeavour.
His oil showdown is the reason why I now use Pennzoil in my truck. Super freakin helpful
That actually asks for a sticker “PF Tested & Approved” 😉
Just off the top of my head, I strongly suspect that the relatively poor rigidity of the drill press arrangement here without the mandrel might have significantly hurt the carbide-tipped saws. They're not good at all under loads that press off-axis and will tend to chip or fracture the carbide. I'd love to see those re-tested in a setup that does not allow so much side-slip! Perhaps a method for this could be pre-drilling a hole to guide it, and replacing the drill with a matched diameter piece of blank drill rod or something to guide in the pre-drilled hole.
Great test, thanks, man! Fun to watch as always. :)
Thanks for the suggestion.
Yea I noticed the run-out too and it definitely isn’t ideal for carbide, but at the same time how many people using these are going to be mounting them in super rigid stuff like a mill?
I love learning things in the comments!
@@Turbochargedtwelve I'm with you, testing the carbide the way it works best isn't a real world test, sort of making it pointless. Hell, I'm sure most hole saws are used in a powered hand drill, even if on thinner metals.
@@Turbochargedtwelve Not all that many, but that's one of the purposes of the mandrel, to keep the saw running in a single path, without a large amount of runout.
"Made in the USA with global materials" - translation: "Tool made in China, Packaging made in (insert country here). Tool put in packaging in USA"
Yea,they lie as much as the Main Stream Media.. lol
you clearly don’t know what you are talking about. It means the materials the item is made from is from an other country.
@@AlexanderMason1 Actually, I do know what I am talking about having previously worked for companies that did exactly that!!! Check the US laws as that is the bare minimum needed for them to be allowed to put the "Made in USA" tag on anything.
@@RealCyclops still, “made in USA with global materials” means just that, made inthe USA with materials from elsewhere. Also something in China and packaged in the USA cannot be said to be made in the USA. You are exaggerating for added drama.
Seeing the “lifetime tooth break warranty” on the Milwaukee sparked an idea. Maybe you should follow up on some of these warranties to compare the customer service of brands. I wouldn’t limit to just the hole saws. Having good customer service is something I look for in companies and usually influences my decision to purchase their product.
Agreed, a real no hassle warranty is rare.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I would tune in to find out results of a warranty claim on the bit.
I'd like to see the results of that test lol
Yep, good idea. When talking to them, I would probably leave out the torture test, then decline to follow though on the warranty replacement because of what you actually did to them. By that point you probably would know all you need in terms of how easy the warranty process is.
This is the first video of yours I have seen, and I am instantly a fan. Your intro is brief, product descriptions include all the relevant information (so you don't end up with hundreds of questions in the comments asking you the same thing over and over, I'm sure), tests are thorough, precise, and offer every measurement imaginable to determine which item performed best, etc. You just got a subscriber and my husband and I are going to binge on your videos now!
Thanks for watching and subscribing! Enjoy!
Lol...
I've started keeping a Notebook app open while watching his videos (and rewatching the old ones) so I can keep tabs on what products performed the best.
It helps me if I'm looking for something.
It’s not every measurement imaginable, but it is really succinct and economical, yet hits all the critical parameters.
I use hole saws a lot. Thank you for all the time you put into making videos to help others make the right choice when making purchases!
Thank you very much!
@@ProjectFarm They all suck at it, but it is a very difficult cut without coolant. Cubic boron nitride would have handled the armor plate easy. Try with lighter speed and feed.
@@julianpetkov8320 Agree with you, too hard feed on that old belt geared machine will chip off pieces of the carbide teeth every time it stalls. Im used to industrial stuff, drills with real gearboxes and coolant, i bet i could get at least 100 holes from that dewalt carbide. One can even feed them hard since there is no risk of stalling when in the lowest gears.
@@pflaffik I have trick for the home shop for tempered steels. I touch the hole to be with a stick welder for about two seconds. Carbon electrodes are best for the purpose. They are made for cutting. It will soften the spot. Like you said, there is no point wasting carbide on hobby machines.
Wow I can only understand some part your guys were talking about ..... But the knowledge is sure a lot on this thread 👍
"Claims to be 9000 times faster, were gonna test that!" I love when he says that lol
Thanks for watching!
Well, it is 9,000 times faster than the hand crank drill bits used in the 1800's.
I have never, and likely will never, purchase a hole saw. I'm watching the whole video anyway.
Thank you very much! I appreciate it!!
You mean, watching the "hole" video.... right?
You will now.. and you’ll know which one to get after this :)
@@iancoxey2295 😆
Don't limit yourself to a life lived without sawing a hole.
Did you send in any of the “lifetime warranty” products for replacement after this test?
^ that alone would be an awesome test.
Not if you use wrong (not made to drill ultra hard steel)
Thats a great idea actually... Would be curious just to see what they said lol
Under normal circumstances, I'd say that he voided the warranty by abusing them, but it would be a very good test to see how many hoops the manufacturers make you jump through to get a replacement. He wouldn't when have to do the replacement, just get to the point where he could send it in then decline.
Could have a follow up video to review the warranty process 😂
This dude checked each of the teeth after testing for each test. Think about all of that. Then like and subscribe.
Thanks for watching and subscribing!
Fine. I don't really care about many of the tests but you are right.
@@AlexusMaximusDE I think after subscribing and watching the videos you will begin to care more and more.... as a consumer don't you want to know where (on which product) to spend your money?... AND who is working to make the best product for you and not just taking your money and giving you what they know is crap...
@@boosted2.4_sky Well most of the products are not really relevant to me because I don't work with cars/engines or do much metal working.
@@AlexusMaximusDE then wtf are u doing here? lmao
Goes to show that “most expensive” isn’t always the best choice. I like these videos
Good Point! Thanks!
Rarely is
Why the quotes? Is the one you're talking about _not_ actually the most expensive one, or...?
You don't always get what you pay for. But you also rarely get what you don't pay for too.
I have studied science and technology my whole life. I worked in a machine shop that did all the work for the San Diego city bus system and I say....you are the man. That last phrase is supposed to be in capitals! Your videos started out home spun and technically great. Your attitude is number one. Now you have moved into the field of materials science. So thorough, insightful....dang! And the timing of your smiles, quite telling. You are like the Johnny Carson of product review vids on utube. Don’t get a swelled head (another amazing attribute, that you have not). Your videos seem to have benefitted from better resources. And you put them to the most apt aspects. Merry Christmas and thanx.
So nice of you! Merry Christmas!
Suggestion: testing and comparing ratchet straps. Brands like Powertye against your everyday husky and other common brands found at hardware stores.
That's a good idea. He could test the tensile strength, durability around sharp corners/tight bends, how well they hold up when lightly frayed, and resistance to UV/weathering/salt water/oil/grease/friction. I've also wondered how much twisting the band actually reduces its strength. I'm guessing that in some of the cheaper brands, the strap could outlast the ratchet and the hooks!
I was going to suggest this as well, glad someone else thought of it too.
This would be fantastic. And please include the retractable ones that you can purchase through McMaster. They are so very convenient to use, but I don't know if they are as durable.
Great suggestion! Thank you.
Dont forget tractor supply ratchet straps
I noticed that almost in every of these amazing tool comparison videos, the Irwin tools always excel compared to their price. Its something else and I love it. I talked my boss into buying Irwin holesaw set to be used in our small metal shop and it actually worked much better than the Karnach hole saws that we were using since 2003. Much cheaper and marginally better. My boss has started to watch your videos after that :)
Thanks for sharing.
This kind of testing is invaluable for so many trades!
Great video once again. "We're gonna test that!" Needs to be made into a shirt with your name/logo on it.
That would be cool!
@@ProjectFarm I'd buy one.
@@ProjectFarm hey man, I suggest you make a video on comparing the different types of turbo nozzles for pressure washers. If they're all the same or if some are better than others. Just the turbo style
I want one of those. Would definitely but a hoodie version.
Yes
I have been purchasing “PF” recommended products from engine oil to glues. You need to patent your logo and get royalties for every product sold from these large companies. Thank You for all the testing you do.
'seen on PF'
are these real stickers? omg
@@johanponin1360 That sticker just means that it FAILED on PF
Absolutely not. The lack of sponsorship and royalties from the products themselves is what makes the reviews unbiased. The very second I find out that a reviewer profits from the product manufacturer or seller is the very second that I dismiss all sense of credibility and trust. Wranglerstar is an example of a youtuber that uses sponsorships to promote products. I asked UA-cam to never recommend any of his videos for that reason. I don't hate him; I just don't trust sponsored reviews or any reviews where the reviewer is compensated by the seller or manufacturer.
*trademark
Ive said it before and i say it again: Best consumer advice on youtube. You're the salt of the earth, dude!
Thanks so much!
I’ve been having a time and a half finding decent hole saws and then I thought to myself “I will set what project farm thinks” and here I am! Thank you again for the content you make!
You are welcome!
I don't own a hole saw, but I'd just like to say thank you for the consistently-awesome & enlightening content. You are appreciated!
Awesome! Thank you!
I am an electrician, we use Greenlee and Ideal hole saws, I was missing them in this competition.
Thanks for the suggestion for future round of testing.
Lol I just repeated your comment greenlee 7/8 ,1-1/8, 1-3/8 set is great...I was also saying how the impact holesaws are only good with the 1/2-7/8” ones cause the larger ones warp...due to thin wall...electricians rule the tools!!
Yes! I was really hoping they were included as well.
@@ProjectFarm Also Starret hole saws although possibly an Irwin product
Greenlee is good, ATI (Aircraft Tools Inc.) is the BEST. . . .
Project farm “we’re gonna test that.”
Manufacturers “crap.”
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I needed to cut a 1 inch hole in mild steel channel iron o my car trailer. I watched the Project Farm video to select a brand. I could not find the brand I wanted but I was able to get the Diablo saw at Homeless Depot. Thanks PF!!!! The saw made it thru the steel with a hand held drill in less than three minutes. I had to hold it in an awkward position with limited visibility. I backed off the RPM and pressed maybe 15-20 lbs weight on bit. I was thrilled and delighted that it cut a hole so easily. Thanks for the video… it saved me so much trial & error time. Now I can new trailer light wiring.
You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.
I use a Diablo kit with the quick connect head. I freaking love it! I cut very little metal, but it is so nice being able to swap sizes so easy. They seem to hold up extremely well. I have had to replace the pilot bit a few times, but not the hole saw itself.
That is awesome!
Same
To Project Farm, you should add (lower/higher is better) when you are showing comparison chart, it would help some viewers a lot
Great suggestion! Thank you
@@ProjectFarm also watermark your graphs in some way with the PF logo, they'll inevitably start getting screencapped and put onto websites without permission. Naturally, some will go to the effort to remove it but there's no stopping those kinds of people. It's mostly just a deterrent.
Todd! Wow! I'm grateful you're out there man. Your integrity comes through in your work, which I hope you find fantastic success in. Your win is everyones win. We all want to see more people online like yourself. You're showing people so much more then just these products. You're showing people it's ok to simply make honest, good content. You're really raising the bar on so many levels here. Powerful stuff man, keep up the great work
I appreciate that!
Today I am drilling some 1" holes in a steel frame for rubber grommets for pex plumbing. I was most disappointed with the performance of the Bosch, Milwaukee, and Makita hole saws. Some of them lasted only cutting four holes.
The Lenox 1" hole saw saved my day. So far I have cut 25 holes with this saw and there is still lots more life in this saw.
That Lenox was imported directly from Amazon.
Thanks for sharing.
I gotta say, the testing methodology on this one was full of holes.....
lol Thanks for watching.
A whole lot of holes?
*I GET IT*
Hahaha
I now no longer need to guess which hole saw to purchase....I love this channel 👍👍
Thank you!
"Up to 40% Faster" - literally, the only one that couldn't cut through the metal.
Besides the no name
40% faster at dulling
Thanks for the feedback.
Up to 40% faster than atmospheric erosion.
Up to 40% also means 0.1%
Best Channel on UA-cam, by far. Right to the point with useful and unbiased testing. No annoying distractions like music, politics or wokeness either. I have actually been using Lenox hole saws and mandrels for many years. They work well, are reasonably priced and they are also readily available at Lowe's. Recently, I was away from home and needed a 3.5 inch hole saw in an emergency. I picked up a Hercules hole saw and Warrior mandrel at Harbor Freight. Both devices worked surprisingly well. Granted, probably not as well as the Lenox would have done, but pretty impressive none the less. I just wanted to pass on the information. Keep up the great work!
Thanks, will do.
My daughter and I were watching The King of Random a few minutes ago. They were testing the hardness of a few rattle can clearcoats.
I said, "This is like what I keep asking Todd on Project Farm to do."
And then they mentioned you and your channel!
Last night I watched a video of someone "testing" tools. A commenter said, "Check out Project Farm if you want to see how to do a thorough, unbiased test."
Pretty cool to see your influence across UA-cam.
Thanks for sharing!
@@ProjectFarm Hi it is not the hardness that I would worry about, it is the UV resistance. This goes for inside or outside, UV means more than just sun light. It has a lot of chemicals in the bonding that make it far superior in the hardness than any clearcoat ( hardness of a few rattle can clearcoats) by it self. I will say this, just buy any 3M product and you will not be steered to far from wrong. 3M is AMERICAN MADE.
Makes me happy to hear ppl recommend & give credit to PF. Lord knows I'm forever spreading the word of PF's work.
I don't have an audience like those channels but I do gladly recommended quality products, companies & PF everywhere I can.
IMO you should measure the depth of the holes left in the armor plating and include them, too.
Anyway, great video, as always :)
Good point! Thanks!
"We're gonna test that!" - Todd, 2020 ------ Music to my ears. Love these videos.
Thanks so much!
Honesty, does pay off. Glad people like you are still around god bless you brother
Thanks!
I absolutely agree, but God is should always be written with a capital "g", all respect and glory to the Almighty.
I never skip an ad on any of your videos. Your dedication and hard work just to help us save a couple bucks really means a lot. Responding to our comments shows you really care for everyone. Trust me i speak for everyone! Glad you and the Farm family are doing well during this pandemic.
Awesome! Thank you!
Anyone else notice how he pronounces “wheel?” It’s just like how Stewie from Family Guy pronounces “cool whip.” 9:56
As always, great video. I’m a big fan of the hole dozers.
I don't know hwhat you're talking about.
Thanks for watching!
Why are you acting so wheird. Oh come on that one doesn't even have a H in it.
Stewie says cool hwip
A lot of older folks where I work say words like wheel and white that way. Must be some sort of dialect from a few decades ago.
Here's another idea, multi-tool blades.
I use my vibration saw (multi tool), to cut a lot of metal, screws, wood, etc. and I go through blades like crazy.
It would be nice to know which ones are the strongest because they are quite expensive.
Great video idea. Thank you.
I second this
He made one!!
I think of this channel so often when I need to make a tool purchase, your reviews are the best on UA-cam. Phenomenal quality as always.
Thanks!
Would be interesting to try to claim on the “lifetime warranty” they offer. Send a letter or call customer service saying it wore out the first day of use. See what they offer !
Usually warranty is from manufacturing defects. If it just sucks, it's not defect, it's how it was designed to perform (to cut costs).
When some company writes in the package "lifetime warranty", No one really understands what it really means... Your 'life time' or the tool? A tool doesn't have a "life time", only "wear and tear" and Everything 'wears and tears', doesn't it? it is really a "term" open to 'interpretation'... Like you've said, it could 'wear out' in A Day! And that would be the "life" of the tool! See what I mean? Gee...
@@Phoenix-One0922 Halfords in UK offer a life time, it breaks from uses or wares out, you get a new one.
You're actually paying for 6-7 bits up front. They'll 'warranty" the tool, until you figure out that shipping costs are on YOU. Drill Hog just states "lifetime warranty", there are no details to be found on their website. I hate to say it but a LOT of US companies, especially big corporations, are shady as F.
Suggestion: testing which oscillating multi-tool blade/attachment is the best for different applications such as cutting wood, nails/screws, pvc, drywall and etc. keep up the great videos!
Great suggestion! Thank you.
Fein would likely win.
Lol I literally just typed this suggestion above because I just got done polishing a blade trying to cut a drywall screw out. 😂😂
@@ProjectFarm be sure to test Diablo's brand new full line of Oscillating Multi-Tool blades
if it cuts hard screws,it cuts everything..
When using your drill press I think you should raise your table so the spindle isn’t extended so far. It looked like that could have broken those really expensive one because of that wobble with how hard the carbide was
I like your reviews I have used all these products and still keep going back to Morse and Irwin when I need to get the job completed .
Project Farm I never even heard of Morse until now. Home Depot nor Lowe's carries that brand. Now I know of a cheap reliable brand name.
They carry them at Menards, but that's more of a regional store.
Jon Deiler Morse also makes very good band saw blades! Yes Menards, Amazon and some Milwaukee dealers.
And great drill bits and lathe tooling.
our company usually buys Morse hole saws, im sure they get them at a supply house. they seem to last pretty decently in the field
Guess I got a bad kit. 25 piece hole saw kit, and they all sucked. Melted the teeth right off. They weren't even sharp enough to do anything but burn through wood right out of the case.
I still have a Milwaukee Cold set (think they were some cryo treated weirdness) that keeps going and going. I'm sad they discontinued them, probably because they lasted too long.
11:06 “140 seconds”, I think you misspoke, and meant 1 minute and 40 seconds. Just a heads up!
I caught that too lol
Good catch! Yes I meant to say 1 minute and 40 seconds!
Project Farm keep up the amazing work you absolute beauty!
i was gonna say lol
doesnt a minute have 100 seconds??????
''assembled in china with swiss components'' is that a good thing? i feel like its usually the other way around
maybe the paper packing was printed in Switzerland and oil sourced from usa for the plastic packaging?
Great point. Thank you
I'm guessing Swiss Carbides that are brazed in place in China.
@@ProjectFarm that made no sense
@@well_as_an_expert_id_say your mom makes no sense
The Greenlee Quick Change Carbide Cutter Set Catalogue # 660 is the ONLY kit to own. I’ve been using the 7/8” (1/2 EMT) in a factory for 6 YEARS and it still eats steel easily! I have had to replace the starter drill bit a few times but the hole saws are phenomenal! It will be the only kit I’ll ever buy If I ever have to replace it. Thanks for the awesome video. I love your content. Great editing also.
Dude! Your content is amazing!!! You're honest and doing amazing reviews. Thank you for doing these videos!! Love it
I appreciate that!
I would love to see Starrett included in the saw tests. A Starrett salesman told me that most of their sales is saw blades (band saw, hacksaw, holesaw, etc).
Also, please don't ever sell out.
Thanks for the suggestion for future round of testing.
I agree, I have used many brands of hole saws but find that the Starrett is the best.
Starrett blades are the worst I've ever used. Only harbor freight blades are worse. Metal and wood
@@Robbievigil that doesn't at all line up with my experience
I agree the starrett were junk in metal trades Lenox were much better.
11:07 You made a mistake, you said 140 seconds while it should be 1 minute 40 seconds.
Oops, thanks for catching that. Yes, 1 minute 40 seconds!
or 100 seconds
But it was correctly entered in the sheet at the end :)
metric time :p
I picked up on that too was seeing how many others did still interesting video
Unusually for me, I had to use a step drill last Summer, and bought a couple before checking your video! It was only through thin mild steel, the Makita lost it's tip almost instantly, and the Titanium coated Dewalt worked perfectly! That confirms your findings!
Thanks for sharing.
I think the stalling of the press is an issue when it comes to grading the drill times. Saws with fewer teeth have a higher chip load and require way more torque. The stalling adds time to their count. I bet they may have done better if the press didn't stall. I bet it probably slowed a decent amount too compared to the high tooth count saws. I always appreciate your videos and tests. Looking forward to future great content!
Glad to hear!
I really think he should have done it with a mill. More power, rigid and can control the speeds better. Though most people don’t have a mill.
@@markbenoit Thats the point, this channel is set towards the home owner, weekend warrior.
Almost every bloke has a drill press not everyone has a mill, this test is a "real world" test
@@markbenoit Every time I've used a holesaw it was in the field with a battery drill. Usually for cutting holes in things you could never get under a drill press, let alone a mill!
@@woopimagpie exactly. Electricians and plumbers and carpenters working on houses usually can't use a drill press and they probably buy way more hole saws than machinists do. And you don't have good control of speed out in the field either. Also, you can't apply this much down force unless you are a lot stronger than me! But I still love the test.
Gosh you do a fine job on these tests - very impressive!
Thank you!
Your experimental methods are really exceptional. I am really impressed by your use of empirical measures whenever possible, and I love your new hardness scratchers! I work at a heat treater as a metallurgist, and my favorite part of my job is figuring out why something broke or didn't work as expected.
My work has some chemical and material analysis tools I think I could use to enhance your tool competitions. I'd like to work with you, let me know!
Thank you very much!
I appreciate how informative and direct your videos are, no time wasting. Most other channels I have to speed the video up
Thanks and you are welcome!
As an electrician, this is what I wanted to watch!!
Glad to hear!
Also as an electrician, he should have tested Ideal's TKO carbide-tipped holesaw. It will cut a hole so smooth and true you'll think it was bored with Bridgeport vertical mill
Gratz Buck I was thinking about! So those are worth it huh? That 3 piece kit for 150 is justifiable?
@@michaels5647 Lowes sells the 4-piece set ( Ideal # 36-311 ) for $90 which drills holes for 1/2", 3/4", & 1" conduits, i.e. 7/8", 1-1/8" & 1-3/8" diameters
I have greenlee 3piece set and I think it’s the best..
thanks, for taking the time to make this video. great job.
My pleasure!
Do you think you could do this through 2x6 joists and 2x4s as a test for the plumbers and electricians
Yes, if there's enough interest. Please let me know hole diameter and brands. Thank you!!
Project Farm great, typically the hole saws that are used are Lenox (this is a very popular brand used by plumbers) Milwaukee both the normal and “BIG HAWG” saws, Diablo and maybe dewalt. As for sizes I’d go 2 1/2, 2 9/16, 3 1/2 and 4 1/2
@@ProjectFarm the brand you tried here +Greenlee, 1½" is for 1" pipe and then maybe 3½" but I don't think your drill press will have enough power for it
Plumbers and electricians aren't using holes saws through 2x4s, they are using augers or forstner bits.
@@da_ghoul9432 I used a good quality Bosch spade bit for my house. worked pretty good except the punch through was pretty rough. I switched over to an auger bit when I got to the garage and that worked much better.
Thank You so much for the "find past videos" catalog, extremely helpful.
You are welcome!
11:06 "One hundred and forty seconds" 😂😂 I was like wait whatttt???
Great videos though, keep it up🔥
Oops, meant to say 1 minute 40 seconds. Thanks for catching that!
I very much appreciate the videos that you make. I am on disability and I need to do as many repairs myself as I can. I have always tried to buy good tools that should last my lifetime and hopefully my stepsons as he is the only one I have to leave them to, and even when he was right out of high school I had been picking up basic hand tools and he used them and when he left for the Army his mom and I moved in together and part of what we moved was his tool box. I saw that he kept them all in great shape with no missing tool. I hope he takes care of mine as he will always be able to make money with them. Your videos help me to pick the best for what I can afford. That information is priceless. So again I thank you. I wonder if you ever start testing and things go wrong and you think wow I should have stayed in bed?
Thanks so much! Thanks for sharing. That is very nice of you to gather up tools for your grandson.
machinist checking in. real tungsten carbide shouldn't be touched by any of those vickers testers... tungsten carbide is around 2400 vickers, as compared to around 2000 for mohs 9 (corundum), around 5000 vickers for cubic boron nitride, and 10000 vickers for diamond (mohs 10). either the carbide had something on it which was being scratched like flux residue from brazing, or something very fishy was going on.
the lack of rigidity in the drill press, and the feed/speed you used created a disadvantage for the carbide saws. carbide does not like to be run slowly.
you're using a woodworking drill press for metalworking, and the results show it.
The runout on the drill press was way big, this increases the size of the hole and increases the friction during the cut due to scrubbing.
Absolutely, but I think this is for most people that are either using these in a handheld drill or a drill press that is pretty close to what he was using.
@@anthonypascucci7001 using a hole saw with a hand drill in metal besides stuff like thin wall conduit is just asking for trouble
You are becoming my go to for just about anything I buy on line. This is the real consumer reports site!
Thanks!
I always use cutting fluid with my hole saws on metal. Wonder how this would have affected the cutting times and jamming from the first test and then into the next tests. These things cost a lot of money. I like to get as much use out of then as possible. As usual, nice job👍. Always appreciate your effort.
Thanks so much!
I just watched two of the most opposite people I've ever seen . Zip ties and Bias Plies followed up with Project Farm . From dump bus burnouts to hole saws nonsense to perfect sense . What a great day !
Thanks for watching.
Me too! Very different mindset, and vocabulary.
Just bought one of your shirts, love this channel!
Thank you very much for supporting the Project Farm Channel!
I'm an Electrician and have made thousands of holes in mostly 12-gauge steel panels and up to 4" holes (that will take you for a ride). Yes, an odd thick steel plate, aluminum plate and steel diamond plate. I use a hand drill motor and a pilot drill (for centering). The secret is to keep your saw cool. All of yours overheated and softened the teeth. Another 'trick' is to slightly 'cock the saw sideways' in a slow orbiting motion so that only a few teeth at a time are cutting. This also keeps the saw cool and lightens the load on my drill motor. Tap Magic works the best because it evaporates quickly and it doesn't leave a mess like oil-based cutting fluids. My hole saws last a very long time when kept cool. BTW, nice vid but I rarely used a drill press when cutting with hole saws.
Thanks for sharing.
"Electrician" is a brand name now?
I recently came across your videos and I absolutely love them. Your testing is extremely thorough and comprehensive. At one time, our property had to have some fairly extensive foundation and plumbing work. This resulted in a number of areas where concrete was repaired very poorly (the ratios were nowhere near correct). I would love to see a comparison on concrete grinder discs. Thank you.
Thanks! Thanks for the video idea.
I think the expensive hole saws would have done better at a much higher RPM.
Yup, carbide generally demands a higher speed than high speed steel.
Yes, load will make a difference. Take this away though and I believe PF’s test shows which are built right and will hold up in real world use all the same.
Thanks for the feedback.
So where really hard metals are involved, that Diablo looked amazing. Otherwise, that MK Morse is awesome for everything else.
The MK Morse definitely seemed to punch above its price point.
Thanks for the feedback.
Great video.
I purchase a holesaw kit for installing a deadbolt in my front door. It is a typical, cheap, Insulated metal door. The metal is very thin. The holesaw did the job but when I tried to use it on a second door, it really struggled and took a long time for me to make the hole.
Now I know what brands to consider when I have another project.
Thanks! Thanks for sharing.
The product testing library you are building is absolutely incredible, you’re awesome!
Thank you!
"I'm gonna kick your ass!"
*We're* *gonna* *test* *that*
As always a man can only get a few simple pleasures in life, your reviews are one of mine. Thank you.
My pleasure!
Bro, you fucking NAILED it...
I’m a cut man/laborer for a framing company. And I kid you not I’ve gotten my boss to start watching your videos, and does he love me now. Every time we’re looking for a new tool/best one, I come home and see if you have any videos have what we are looking and report back to him the next day. You got me a raise. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THESE VIDEOS!!
Fantastic! Glad to hear the good news!
Please do a "best electric screwdriver" video. I'm talking about the low torque drivers that are designed for things like driving machine screws or fasteners in flat pack furniture.
Thanks for the video idea.
Thanks for doing this video! Very useful. Idea for a future video: Air hose fittings. Which style of quick-connect coupler translates the most torque to an impact gun or best volume to a an inflator over a set period of time, which hose material has the least friction loss, etc?
Video idea: mechanic here. Would love to see a line wrench comparison, as my snap ons have all spread
Great video idea!! Thank you
Why haven't you warrantied them?
@@bubbafudpucker397 snap on won't replace if they aren't broken, and spreading is considered as normal wear and tear
@@patricelebrasseur5649 this
@@patricelebrasseur5649 Your dealer must be an ass then. If I ever had a dealer that wouldn't warranty something, I would intentionally break it. I only had to do that once.
as an electrician I use a lot of hole saws(different brands) but honestly when it comes to cutting metal , I would say i have had the best results with the greenle hole saws.i am surprised that you didint test them or klein tools. a great video none the less. thank you
You are welcome!
As always, thank you for the videos. If you want to take another look at hole saws, would you consider doing tests with hand held drills? I've always heard that carbide tipped drill bits should never be used on a hand held tool because the instability will break off the carbide tips and ruin tool life. A video with tests of hand held drills and impact drivers using hole saws would be great!
Great suggestion! Thank you.
Amazing unbiased video!! If I’m looking to purchase tools this is the first place I go. It’s unfortunate consumer reports doesn’t take this approach anymore. If you ever branch out into testing appliances or anything else I would follow you in that as well, thank you!!
Thank you!
Bosch is quite good, bahco are good as well, made in Eastern Europe.
20mm 25mm and 32mm are the commonly used ones by electricians in the UK and Europe.
Tapping spray is good to use, used carefully WD40 Is also good for hole saw use.
The mandrills from bosch are good, and black and decker branded "piranha" 6mm metal drilling bits are good to start off a hole saw..
Have tried many of the expensive $30/$40 and $50 ones that have broken off cutting teeth on the first hole and the mandrill bit has gone loose..
For 6mm trunking nut hole drilling black and decker piranha are very good, dorma are good.
There are a few small producers in the UK and Germany that make holesaws, if I can I will get you some to try and mail them to you, hope I can find your mailing address and the postal service is working OK with the virus disruption...
Great feedback. Thank you for the offer. No need to send them unless there's enough interest in a round 2 video. I'd love to test them again. I'll check back later for viewer feedback on having a round 2 video. Thanks again!
@@ProjectFarm I would really like a round 2 if you were to include both kind of Greenlee hole saw, they are regarded as being the best by electrician
Just got some Eclipse ones to try out, usually use Starrett but fancied a change!
@@heavydiesel spider are good too I've heard
Patrice Le Brasseur I agree, also include Klein. I haven’t used them so I don’t know if they are any good.
i like this guy bc he doesnt bullshittalk but goes straight to it from second 1 to the end, thats how you get subs.
Thank you!
"With Global Materials" actually means: "It's made in China but we are embarrassed to say so, and we want your money".
I’m pretty sure it just means that it’s made with materials sourced globally…. The United States doesn’t necessarily have to be the source of the resources that are used to make something here.
China strong arms poor African communities and steals their resources. It's 100% made in China, the Chinese just mined the metal in Africa and Global Materials is just easier to say than Made in China with Chinese mined African resources
@@ethandefilippi9346 That's the altrustic perspective. When one looks at it another way you get the comment from Eli D above this.
@@colemanadamson5943 I’m confused here. The saying “made in the USA with global materials” means made in the USA with resources from outside the USA. That’s what I’m talking about in my reply.
Eli D Typical assumption from those uneducated peasants, at least speak with some substance dawg. Thank for amusing me 😂🙏🏻
0:40
First words in my mind:
We see scratches at level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7...
Anyway, thank you for the test and greetings from Germany.
You are welcome! Thanks for watching.
P.F: American ingenuity at its best + Great attitude.
U.L. Labs: VERY Green w / envy!! 😂👌
Thanks so much!
The L in UL stands for laboratory, you can just say UL lol
Your consumer tests are some of the best on Tube. Watching these many DIY folks could save money and nerves.
Thanks so much!