Does Cutting Oil for Drilling Metal Help? Let's find out!

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  • Опубліковано 28 чер 2020
  • Does cutting oil for drilling through metal work better than motor oil, bacon grease or other options? Tap Magic Cutting Fluid, CRC C3400 Truetap Cutting Fluid, Rapid Tap Cutting Fluid, CLI Syntec Premium Metal Tapping Fluid, Lenox, 3-in-1 Oil, used motor oil, bacon grease, and shortening tested as cutting oil drilling through mild and hardened steel. New twist drill bits used for each product tested. In a recent video on twist drill bits, DeWalt and Bosch did well but using a high quality cutting oil helps a lot. Thanks for supporting the channel!
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    ➡ Products Tested In This Video (in no particular order):
    Tap Magic Cutting Fluid: amzn.to/34hSyZV
    CRC C3400 Truetap Cutting Fluid: amzn.to/3aFb7Zg
    Rapid Tap Cutting Fluid: amzn.to/2FL82LX
    CLI Syntec Premium Metal Tapping Fluid: amzn.to/2EoWnSk
    Lenox: amzn.to/31dImzw
    3-in-1 Oil: amzn.to/3jbliYH
    used motor oil
    bacon grease
    shortening
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  • @ProjectFarm
    @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +936

    I didn’t expect to see such a huge difference between the brands. A high-quality cutting oil makes a huge difference, especially on high-carbon steel. I bought all of the products and do not accept sponsorships. Thanks to everyone for helping support the videos through your generous Patreon support. www.patreon.com/projectfarm. I look forward to reading your comments and video ideas. Thanks again!
    Products Tested In This Video (in no particular order):
    Tap Magic Cutting Fluid: amzn.to/34hSyZV
    CRC C3400 Truetap Cutting Fluid: amzn.to/3aFb7Zg
    Rapid Tap Cutting Fluid: amzn.to/2FL82LX
    CLI Syntec Premium Metal Tapping Fluid: amzn.to/2EoWnSk
    Lenox: amzn.to/31dImzw
    3-in-1 Oil: amzn.to/3jbliYH

    • @kalebmiller4845
      @kalebmiller4845 3 роки тому

      hey there

    • @joshua_J
      @joshua_J 3 роки тому +9

      Instant click for my favorite UA-cam channel!!! I wish you made more videos.

    • @RedBeardOps
      @RedBeardOps 3 роки тому +10

      I can not believe how fast you put this together... I only asked for it like 2 weeks ago! Thank you! 😂

    • @Oatmeal2six
      @Oatmeal2six 3 роки тому +6

      How about possibly testing mower blade sharpeners/methods. It might be I tough test but I know project farm can pull it off!

    • @Proillbelly
      @Proillbelly 3 роки тому +6

      Test the best File

  • @CdeAguero
    @CdeAguero 3 роки тому +764

    I gatta say, I suggested this idea like 4 months ago, and specifically asked for 3in1 oil to be tested (even though it lost horribly). Its refreshing to see a UA-cam account with 1M+ subs still listening to the fans.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +103

      Thanks for suggesting this video.

    • @therealbigfoot3076
      @therealbigfoot3076 3 роки тому +8

      Word

    • @oldrabidus2230
      @oldrabidus2230 3 роки тому +22

      And he still responds to his fans!

    • @warrenadams2157
      @warrenadams2157 3 роки тому +10

      I call him
      Mr. President cuz I think he should run the country and straighten it out ! he does a really good job testing products/answering questions.
      " Project Farm"#1

    • @magicmushroom69
      @magicmushroom69 3 роки тому +1

      I usually grab whats at hand, but am going to avoid 3in1 next time!

  • @LPMutagen
    @LPMutagen 3 роки тому +419

    Machinist here. In 20 years I've never witnessed a head to head test like this. I always just used whatever was at hand in the shop and I'm surprised at the big differences in performance among a bunch of products that I would have assumed were more or less equivalent. Thanks again for the effort you put into these tests.

    • @evanvokes1694
      @evanvokes1694 3 роки тому +12

      at 20 years you missed out on trichloroethylene rapid tap which we lost due to david suzuki and ozone holey science. Nothing on that bench is in this class. you know very well it is used in the third world anyways just like R12 refrigerants but somehow these small volume useful materials are banned here.

    • @ThePreyMantas
      @ThePreyMantas 3 роки тому +13

      @@evanvokes1694 40 year machinist here, I remember using that, I still have 2 cans of it that I still use. I wonder why he didn't have any Fuchs. Personally I thin they make the best CNC coolants/lubricants. I've tried some of the "so-called" good synthetics, but they aren't anywhere near as good and even though I mixed my 1-2 brix higher than recommended, the tables still rusted and it eat up the aluminum sub plates to boot! FUCHS won hands down and would have been a good addition to the drilling test.

    • @tkermi
      @tkermi 3 роки тому +8

      10 year hobby level machinist here 😊 (my brother is a real machinist though messing around with 13000 mm Y travel Zayer and the like). I just use Dormer cutting/threading fluids and mainly just etanol for aluminum but haven't done any specific testing. I wonder if the film strength is only important when the tool hardness is close to the work piece hardness? In that case it could prevent some friction wear. But maybe with hard tools and soft materials like aluminum the heat transfer is more important. I have a gut feeling that for tapping the maximum film strength is beneficial.

    • @LPMutagen
      @LPMutagen 3 роки тому +8

      @@tkermi i thought about film strength and tapping as well. It's interesting that, while this test exposes some big differences in product performance, we are still in the dark as to the scientific reasons for the differences. I wish I knew more.

    • @ThePreyMantas
      @ThePreyMantas 3 роки тому +4

      @@tkermi Hey, sure appears that way, doesn't it... I've never worked with Dormer cutting fluids, so am uneducated on their performance, but based on my experience and PF's testing there seems to something to justify your observations. I use high sulfur based cutting fluids with tapping and found them to yield the best results both in finish and tool longevity. Stinks like hell, but then all the good stuff generally is being phased out like MEK, a solvent and some mentioned by others like old school formula Tap Magic. Back to aluminum machining, try some Diesel fuel as a cutting fluid. Works really well for tool wear, great cutting finish in either turning, facing and tapping. I'm sure it has to do with sulfur content...

  • @SouthMainAuto
    @SouthMainAuto 3 роки тому +253

    Draining crankcase and filling with tap oil 😂 Best results yet on the bearing test!

    • @trollmcclure1884
      @trollmcclure1884 3 роки тому +11

      Absolutely. They are obviously doing something wrong with motor oils

    • @gringadoor5385
      @gringadoor5385 3 роки тому +13

      Good luck when temps get below freezing.

    • @trollmcclure1884
      @trollmcclure1884 3 роки тому +8

      @@gringadoor5385 yeah, or high. Maybe it would hold. Maybe it's too expensive or toxic for us to use millions of gallons each year. Maybe it's silicon oil-based. It may be a good additive

    • @dimmacommunication
      @dimmacommunication 2 роки тому +2

      @@trollmcclure1884 It probably has to do with metals inside the oil, can't have many nowadays with DPFs and such.

    • @trollmcclure1884
      @trollmcclure1884 2 роки тому

      @@dimmacommunication Metals create a protective layer and maybe some other magic. Why would you make tap oil so slippery tho? I'm still confused

  • @michaelward9880
    @michaelward9880 3 роки тому +71

    I've been a mechanic and welder for about 40 years and I've found your videos extremely helpful in finding products that live up to their hype and actually work! Keep 'em coming! Thanks.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you very much, will do!

  • @goonaba1016
    @goonaba1016 3 роки тому +823

    You should try cutting fluid as engine oil, since it seems to have a smaller wear scar than regular engine oil

    • @bradley3549
      @bradley3549 3 роки тому +82

      I was thinking the same thing!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +343

      Great recommendation!

    • @savoryflan
      @savoryflan 3 роки тому +38

      I was thinking the same. Maybe use a mix of 75% engine oil and 25% cutting fluid.

    • @Vectorous
      @Vectorous 3 роки тому +15

      Yeah. I want to see this.

    • @stephenshivery2531
      @stephenshivery2531 3 роки тому +13

      definatley agree would make a good video and could put all that extra cutting oil to good content use!!

  • @jaywest4102
    @jaywest4102 3 роки тому +246

    So many products I use just because it’s what my grandpa or dad use. Most of your tests show they were usually choosing wisely

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +35

      Thank you very much!

    • @HyakuJuu01300
      @HyakuJuu01300 3 роки тому +28

      Experience is the best teacher after all.

    • @ac.creations
      @ac.creations 3 роки тому +7

      Knowledge is not a substitute for wisdom.

    • @marksierra3522
      @marksierra3522 3 роки тому +2

      @@ac.creations You know what a deepity is?

    • @DrYosh2
      @DrYosh2 3 роки тому +14

      @@marksierra3522 they probably have no idea. Here's the cliff notes: Knowledge and wisdom aren't a "this vs that" situation. Wisdom is applied knowledge. You can't have wisdom without knowledge. And misapplication of knowledge isn't wisdom.

  • @leonhaku
    @leonhaku 3 роки тому +185

    I have no clue why im watching these as I'm probably never going to be in a position to be criticizing cutting fluids but goddam, it almost feels like watching a horse race and am hoping a specific brand wins. The production value and scientific approach to these tests absolutely make me cling to my seat as he's super methodical about testing these products' every aspect. Anyone can make these vids but the superb commentary makes me wanna come back and watch another. Great job PF!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +13

      Thanks so much!

    • @MattCayen
      @MattCayen Рік тому +1

      @@ProjectFarm Feel ya, I had the answers I was looking for and kept watching..

  • @SilverC8andDroppedC10
    @SilverC8andDroppedC10 2 роки тому +40

    Picked up some Tap Magic after watching this video. I needed to drill a bunch of holes in my truck frame and the instructions for the part I installed stated I would go through several drill bits. I purchased the bits PF recommended in the best drill bit video and completed the entire job using tap Magic & a single bit. Thank you Project Farm. Todd, you are the absolute best!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 роки тому +4

      You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

  • @Mmouse_
    @Mmouse_ 3 роки тому +352

    The gymnastics some American companies do to avoid saying "made in China" is amazing.

    • @ParkerUAS
      @ParkerUAS 3 роки тому +59

      That comment was made by, or under the supervisory control of, Max Mouse.

    • @BAMAJiPS
      @BAMAJiPS 3 роки тому +20

      You'll note that most companies that say "Made in USA with global components" (or "proudly made...") usually have stickers all over the box and product saying such (DeWalt comes to mind).
      You can take it to the bank that every major component was made elsewhere and they MAY have assembled those components here in USA, but more than likely the made in part refers to someone putting a sticker that says as much and maybe combining a part or two and boxing it all to be able to SAY "Made in USA"
      Its really sad in my opinion

    • @dantethunderstone2118
      @dantethunderstone2118 3 роки тому +18

      Max Mouse assembled in USA with international components aka made in China label applied in the states

    • @ParkerUAS
      @ParkerUAS 3 роки тому +13

      @@dantethunderstone2118 , more like assembled in the US out of Chinese parts.

    • @Senkino5o
      @Senkino5o 3 роки тому +6

      @@BAMAJiPS I got a couple of Empire 2' levels the other day, one is digital.
      One of the reasons I got them is cause the box said made in USA.
      After buying I had a look and only the vials are made in the USA, all the edge milling and assembly is done in Vietnam.

  • @ckl8a
    @ckl8a 3 роки тому +121

    my dad is a machinist and he swears by tap magic. I always just took his word, but it's good to see he knows his stuff!

    • @RadDadisRad
      @RadDadisRad 3 роки тому +4

      It doesn’t hurt that it smells nice too

    • @rayraden2527
      @rayraden2527 3 роки тому +3

      ckl8a I use tap magic I’v been using it for about 20 years good stuff

    • @cavemaneca
      @cavemaneca 3 роки тому

      Yeah, I'd just assumed from experience that Tap Magic was the best, but it's nice to see a good comparison showing how well it works.

  • @colevandervort4962
    @colevandervort4962 3 роки тому +13

    Respect how much time and effort this guy put into these videos, and does not even have a sponsor.

  • @ThePapaOfThree
    @ThePapaOfThree 3 роки тому +16

    When you say "we're gonna test that!" It gives me chills ;-)

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +2

      Sorry to hear!

    • @ThePapaOfThree
      @ThePapaOfThree 3 роки тому +2

      @@ProjectFarm I meant that as a compliment. I love when you say that. Please keep finding things to test. I've watched nearly all of your videos and learned SO much

    • @bobd.
      @bobd. 2 роки тому +3

      That may be true (you getting chills), but I bet the manufacturers do too. 😁

    • @donqpaul5551
      @donqpaul5551 2 роки тому

      Needs to be on a Tshirt or I need to be directed to the store that sells it.

  • @Haywoodjablomie100
    @Haywoodjablomie100 3 роки тому +104

    Pretty embarrassing for a company to develop a product, spend money on R&D, product packaging, marketing etc and it gets beat by bacon grease lol. Thanks so much for the video!

    • @loosewirewire7954
      @loosewirewire7954 3 роки тому +18

      What's worse is when they put all the money into hype, packaging and advertisement gimmicks and not R&D like they are supposed to. As long as it sells and makes a big enough profit they don't change the effectiveness. The money goes to cost cutting measures in manufacturing instead of research in how to make it better with the new technologies. But we fall for it and they make money so it's hard to blame the business midel which is why channels like this one is so wonderful and important!

    • @ancientapparition1638
      @ancientapparition1638 3 роки тому +3

      @@loosewirewire7954 Yep at the end of the day corporations exist to meet one goal - make money.

    • @CaptainDangeax
      @CaptainDangeax 3 роки тому

      Maybe they should have tried bacon grease in their lab as well, as an average control product

    • @mikevlek
      @mikevlek 3 роки тому

      Well to produce 500ml of bacon you need to cook about 1000g of bacon so all the developing is invested into those kinds of things. But hey if you want to cook 1kg of bacon instead of buying a 10$ bottle thats fine XD

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 3 роки тому

      @@mikevlek Of course I want to cook bacon instead. Then I have bacon to eat. 🥓🤤

  • @combatmedic1980
    @combatmedic1980 3 роки тому +156

    I'm really surprised you didn't include WD-40, since I see a LOT of people use it to drill with.

    • @HemiRod23
      @HemiRod23 3 роки тому +36

      WD-40 is particularly good when cutting or drilling aluminum. It helps keep the cutting tool from loading up.

    • @mattnewberry3980
      @mattnewberry3980 3 роки тому +15

      I would like to see WD-40 tested too!

    • @liamstrong5223
      @liamstrong5223 3 роки тому +32

      WD-40, a terrible lubricant, okay cleaner, decent water displacer, and brilliant aluminum cutting fluid

    • @blackbirdxx928
      @blackbirdxx928 3 роки тому +2

      It's works fine...it just takes a lot...it works
      because it's not a lubricant....lubrication it the keep metal parts from touching..
      So the bit needs to burn off the lube before it can cut....I have best luck with atf.

    • @slipsonic809
      @slipsonic809 3 роки тому +15

      @@liamstrong5223 dont forget wasp killer. WD-40 kills yellowjackets in about 5 seconds, and if you use the spray straw you can shoot em down while they're flying like little fighter planes.

  • @Gum05
    @Gum05 2 роки тому +9

    As a retired toolmaker, we swore by TapMagic even though we had no scientific data supporting that decision. We did use paste wax for finish machining/grinding on mild steel and aluminum with good results. Great video as usual! Keep up the great work!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 роки тому +1

      Thanks, will do! Thanks for sharing.

    • @garbo8962
      @garbo8962 10 місяців тому +1

      I use to do a lot of electrical work in a tool & die shop. Firemen told me that Tap Magic works great but too expensive for them to use everyday. Have some cans of the earlier Tap Magic version that they changed back in the 1980's. It evaporated quickly and keep the tap cool.

  • @shawnchong5196
    @shawnchong5196 3 роки тому +11

    Project Farm - you're tests are so good, and I like how your commentary, testing, video and sound all improved with time. So much kudos to you. I hope you can stay unbiased moving forward. This channel is basically consumer reports, but you show the testing, teaching us people how the pros do it! it's awesome!

  • @johnd9357
    @johnd9357 3 роки тому +125

    This is literally the only channel that I insta-like every video. I don’t even need to watch the video to know it’s good. If it’s project farm, it’s quality. Never change man, keep this formula PLEASE! I get so worried that you’re gonna blow up and change something upon the behest of others, and lose the magic. These videos are gold the way they are!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +22

      Wow, thank you!

    • @jackhanson8467
      @jackhanson8467 3 роки тому +15

      @@ProjectFarm He's right you know. I do exactly the same, hit the Like button as it starts, every time. You never disappoint.

    • @willnotcomply1328
      @willnotcomply1328 3 роки тому +6

      I hit the like before watching too....

    • @davidscott5903
      @davidscott5903 3 роки тому +5

      He's right.

    • @Random_4400
      @Random_4400 3 роки тому +5

      Same here!

  • @noahellice2184
    @noahellice2184 3 роки тому +105

    I love this guy, he goes through so much to make test as accurate as possible

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +11

      Thank you very much!

    • @Bob_Adkins
      @Bob_Adkins 3 роки тому +5

      Some of the popular testers say "I think this one is best because it's best for me". PF's tests are useful to everyone, not just the tester. We're so lucky to have him.

    • @stupaod
      @stupaod 3 роки тому +1

      My only complaint(mostly) is that he only runs the tests once. Three tests would increase the accuracy quite a bit and help weed out possible unknown influences that could affect the results.

    • @Bob_Adkins
      @Bob_Adkins 3 роки тому +2

      @@stupaod And triple the work and expense, and it would no longer be fun.

    • @Darninja99
      @Darninja99 3 роки тому +2

      @@stupaod I think for the purpose of this channel it would be almost redundant. I see your point and agree with it, although I think Todd sets his tests up in a way that's precise enough to avoid repeating them. After all, it's not like he needs very accurate data :)

  • @wilsonrawlin8547
    @wilsonrawlin8547 2 роки тому +2

    Been using Tap magic for 14yrs, Good stuff. Yes, I have to drill a crap ton of armor as well.
    Project is my gold mine of learning what is best and has save me countless times.

  • @CodelGeass
    @CodelGeass 3 роки тому +1

    THANK YOU PROJECT FARM! Another question that I have had for years answered! Appreciate all the time, effort, and hard wirk that goes into every video!

  • @danhard8440
    @danhard8440 3 роки тому +295

    i have a mom and pop small hardware store next to me and i talk to the guys there about your channel all the time and now they watch also so that they can better advise there customers and help there business

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +46

      Fantastic! Thanks for sharing.

    • @thewolfin
      @thewolfin 3 роки тому +12

      their* business

    • @ducatiist
      @ducatiist 3 роки тому +22

      @@thewolfin chill out - what are you the UA-cam spellcheck? We define language, it doesn't define us. If you can understand him then you know what he meant.

    • @charlesangell_bulmtl
      @charlesangell_bulmtl 3 роки тому +3

      @@ducatiist LOL

    • @hugolafhugolaf
      @hugolafhugolaf 3 роки тому +10

      ducatiist Being satisfied with the lowest common denominator gets you nowhere.

  • @bcgrittner
    @bcgrittner 3 роки тому +51

    When I worked at the store I sold drill bits by the dozens, but not much cutting oil. Your video should make a believer out of anyone.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +3

      Thank you very much! I didn't realize it made such a huge difference.

    • @danhillman4523
      @danhillman4523 3 роки тому +3

      Even if nothing else is available I will put a few drops of motor oil when I drill any type of metal.

  • @RickaramaTrama-lc1ys
    @RickaramaTrama-lc1ys 3 роки тому +2

    I was so glad to see at this time you have almost a million and a half subs~! This is another one of your videos that explains what I have been wondering about for over 50 yrs.~! Where else on Earth could we get these kind of comparisons~? You might not realize it but you have become something of a Scientist that we all have access to for all our questions about things we never knew but thought we did. Much Respect~!

  • @vikmanphotography7984
    @vikmanphotography7984 3 роки тому +24

    I haven't done any machining in years and I'm not likely to return to it with any regularity but I do appreciate the effort you go to to isolate variables, considering the wide range and quantity of test setups you build.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +5

      I appreciate that!

    • @ChevyRedneckGFX
      @ChevyRedneckGFX 2 роки тому +1

      What do you do instead of machining? Trying to get out

  • @tomjones4318
    @tomjones4318 3 роки тому +51

    Oh, the smell of Tap Magic at three in the mourning. Bringing back memories.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +4

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @evanvokes1694
      @evanvokes1694 3 роки тому +4

      Would the mourning be as a result of a broken tap. We have not had an effective tapping compound since 1.1.1 tricholoethane.
      Cutting the new rapid tap with 5%acetone is OK but its still awful

    • @bloccoaspirale1867
      @bloccoaspirale1867 3 роки тому +1

      I'm sorry for your loss.

  • @Thesignalpath
    @Thesignalpath 3 роки тому +27

    You have a methodical, vigorous and thorough style of investigation. Thank you, it is a pleasure to watch your videos.

  • @Erik_Swiger
    @Erik_Swiger 2 роки тому +1

    Things you do, like the closeup views of the edges of the drill bits, magnified, and tracing back and forth with a pointer - stuff like this adds tremendously to your videos. I mention this because it comes and goes so fast, yet I realize what it takes to make those shots. I notice these things because I want to make my own videos, so I don't just watch your videos, I watch how you make them.

  • @thewildbean4413
    @thewildbean4413 3 роки тому

    I love how fair the testing is on this channel

  • @TheConjurersTower
    @TheConjurersTower 3 роки тому +153

    At first I was going to ask why you had armor plating laying around, then I remembered it's 2020 and you're probably just turning your tractor into a tank so you're ready for the alien invasion in November.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +30

      Thanks for sharing.

    • @dposcuro
      @dposcuro 3 роки тому +53

      @@ProjectFarm the non-commital answer. Wise, very wise.

    • @adriananderson1258
      @adriananderson1258 3 роки тому +1

      @The Conjurer's Tower what's happening in November?

    • @TheConjurersTower
      @TheConjurersTower 3 роки тому +6

      @@adriananderson1258 It's a joke, so many relatively wild things have happened this year (pandemic, riots, some close-call international conflicts) that an alien invasion would fit right in and barely even be a surprise. I think there's a meme template somewhere with each month's 'event' for the year, iirc the aliens arrive just before the meteor impact or something.

    • @saccaed
      @saccaed 3 роки тому

      Queue mad lad intro music...

  • @nemo227
    @nemo227 3 роки тому +42

    Project Farm videos are VERY useful and the speed of the narration is good (won't put you to sleep).

  • @rrvette7953
    @rrvette7953 3 роки тому +1

    Again Project Farm does another awesome job testing products. THANK YOU..

  • @alpurl
    @alpurl 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you for the education.
    I'm not a machinist, but it's great to see that something as simple as s cutting oil can make a huge difference in drilling and tapping.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому

      You are welcome! Thanks for sharing.

  • @intillex1
    @intillex1 3 роки тому +77

    I think it's pretty clear we need to see how cutting fluid works as a motor oil!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +8

      Great suggestion!

    • @LawpickingLocksmith
      @LawpickingLocksmith 3 роки тому

      With such low wear we need Matt from Warped Perception to bring a bottle on NOX along and then boys will be boys till an engine blows up.

  • @sandman_-_
    @sandman_-_ 3 роки тому +243

    probably the highest quality content i've seen in years. so much planning and effort goes into this that it shines through with brilliance!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +14

      Thanks so much!

    • @chrisbarham5373
      @chrisbarham5373 3 роки тому +2

      Isn't he awesome

    • @WideAwakeHuman
      @WideAwakeHuman 3 роки тому +5

      He's a one man Consumer Reports team that's free on UA-cam and actually has unbiased tests... Lol. Top 5 channels for sure

  • @Firemedic2105
    @Firemedic2105 3 місяці тому

    Thank you! I love that you have the most honest and transparent testing around!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @hootinouts
    @hootinouts 2 роки тому

    Your tests and videos are always top notch and very informative to folks like me who are always fixing things and making chips out in the shop. When I was in tool and die making, we use to dab lard oil on the drills and end mills using acid brushes. It smoked and had a bit of an odor but did a great job of helping the cut. Thank you for doing what you do and for sharing with us all.

  • @electronicsNmore
    @electronicsNmore 3 роки тому +49

    I'm always drilling through steel plates when working on projects. Now I know what to buy, thanks to your outstanding tests! 👍

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +3

      Glad to help!

    • @Laffen47
      @Laffen47 3 роки тому

      I've not watched it yet, but I'm hoping it's great value shortening

    • @SilmarilS79
      @SilmarilS79 3 роки тому

      @Hydin Biden You realize that most press drill beds are made with a hole in the center just for that!!!

  • @GYccUsefultips
    @GYccUsefultips 2 роки тому

    Top notch you tuber..Gluten free..Organic and proudly made in the U.S.A with imported materials...lol...You're the best brother..The world thanks you...Ppl love you brother

  • @robertmitchell8347
    @robertmitchell8347 9 місяців тому

    Amazing work on these videos. Trully greatefull and entertained. I'm not very experianced in this area and now am totaly impressed what good cutting fluids can do without fancy flowing systems.

  • @Liamtronix
    @Liamtronix 3 роки тому +20

    I really like this format where you run all the tests on one product, then all the tests on the next product, etc. I find it's more enjoyable than running all the products through one type of test, then all through the next test...

  • @RedBeardOps
    @RedBeardOps 3 роки тому +18

    Dude... thanks a million for this! Ask and you deliver! You're fast!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +1

      Thank you very much for requesting this one! 100% of the videos on this channel are viewer requested.

  • @voodoochild1954
    @voodoochild1954 Рік тому

    Great video as all of yours are. I been using Tap Magic for over 40 years now and was thinking maybe there was something better made these days. After this I think I’ll just stay with Tap Magic and know that it’s better than the rest. Thank you!

  • @jhfjhfkf
    @jhfjhfkf 2 роки тому

    Surprised me with extractors a few minutes ago, I look up cutting fluid and your video pops up as number 1, amazing, you have a video for everything. Again I must say your channel is a household brand.

  • @O.D.B.420
    @O.D.B.420 3 роки тому +21

    I love how you are fair on all your evaluations. Same weight on drilling, using timers, just every test you do is fair to all the things being tested and minimal human error or human influence in the tests. Great work.

  • @Dirty_Bits
    @Dirty_Bits 3 роки тому +20

    When building out a prototyping machine shop at a previous employer, I tested a variety of cutting fluids, and Tap Magic came out on top. We used to buy it by the gallon and use it in misting systems on all of the equipment. Tool life was phenominal. Glad to see that you found similar results.

  • @jackalninezeronine
    @jackalninezeronine 2 роки тому

    I love his sense of humor, best tool channel there is.

  • @hansulrichjohner2694
    @hansulrichjohner2694 3 роки тому +8

    This test would be very interesting on stainless steel! This is the hardest metal to machine I have ever seen, but here the cutting oil may be crucial.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +1

      Great suggestion! Thank you.

    • @SP-ls8lw
      @SP-ls8lw Рік тому +1

      ​@@ProjectFarm Tap Magic makes an "Xtra thick" with higher sulphur content for harder to machine metals like stainless.

  • @TheNickLavender
    @TheNickLavender 3 роки тому +108

    We literally sat down with our food a min until 5, hit refresh, there's the new vid, and we are good to go lol!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +16

      Hope you enjoy the food and video!

    • @bolech5221
      @bolech5221 3 роки тому +9

      I can just imagine 3 guys sitting on tilted chairs eating pizza in a dark room and hitting f5

    • @marty3469
      @marty3469 3 роки тому +3

      All they need to do is mix CRC with bacon grease and there's the winner, does the job and smells great at the same time 👍

    • @TheTyisawesome
      @TheTyisawesome 3 роки тому

      Lol awesome man!

  • @Fister_of_Muppets
    @Fister_of_Muppets 3 роки тому +86

    I wonder how well some of those cutting fluids would work as an "emergency" motor oil...

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +33

      Thanks for the video idea.

    • @TheRedstar91
      @TheRedstar91 3 роки тому +8

      I think a lot of the anti-wear additives in cutting fluid are based on sulphur. Be careful about the exhaust gasses is my tip. Other than that, it should work quite good.

    • @wallacegrommet9343
      @wallacegrommet9343 3 роки тому +1

      Low sulphur diesel now contains biodiesel (soy methyl ester) in many markets as a lubricity improver. And the diesel fuel really needs it for people running older mechanically governed Diesel engines. The EPA lowered the fuel lubricity standard to meet the ultra low sulfur goal.

    • @highstreetkillers4377
      @highstreetkillers4377 3 роки тому +1

      Gundrill oil please if you do that. Gundrill oil is a magical oil that would be very interesting in an engine because it might be far superior

    • @sandorpecsora2434
      @sandorpecsora2434 3 роки тому +1

      I had the same first thought, so upvoting your comment and hoping for the best :)

  • @davehoward2791
    @davehoward2791 3 роки тому +1

    Been using 3-in-1 and WD-40 for decades for drilling and cutting threads (when I used anything at all) and have always been satisfied. But now that I'm older and tired of trashing good drill bits and taps & dies (especially when using nothing) I just ordered a big bottle of Tap Magic EP-Xtra after watching your video. Your videos have directly influenced at least a dozen of my purchases over the last year or so on numerous items, and I am grateful for all of the hard work and unbiased information you provide your viewers. Many thanks and please keep up the fine work, it is appreciated by many! 👍

  • @erniehenshaw4161
    @erniehenshaw4161 3 роки тому

    Great info as usual. What a great service you provide to save us all money and aggravation. BRAVO!!!!!!!

  • @clem2usa
    @clem2usa 3 роки тому +84

    I was really concerned that the shortening may have gluten, thanks for clearing that up! 😂

  • @JohnDoe-pv2iu
    @JohnDoe-pv2iu 3 роки тому +10

    I knew the outcome of this when I saw the title. I have been using Tap magic, recommended by a firearms engraver for it's super slick properties for All cutting tools... I have used it for about 30 years and it is the Best, hands down!
    I have also tried nearly everything and nothing comes close to this stuff. Other items might help cutting kinda close but NOTHING comes close to Tap Magic for taking Care of and protecting expensive cutting bits.
    Great video! Take Care and be safe, John

  • @IceAgeSquirrel2008
    @IceAgeSquirrel2008 Рік тому +1

    I really struggle for the best words to express how grateful I am for your videos. At any rate, thank you!

  • @thereeljahjah
    @thereeljahjah Рік тому +1

    BRO!! BRO!! Wicked review!! I recently bought the deWalt Step Bit you reviewed and I hadn’t yet seen this older review.. it so happens by accident I also bought Tap Magic…
    WHAT A COMBINATION!!!
    RESPECT IS DUE TO YOU SIR!! 👊🏼👊🏼

  • @erich3784
    @erich3784 3 роки тому +59

    Man, I was JUST thinking about you, like "hmmm I could really do with a Project Farm video right now" and Bam! Man you're the best haha

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +7

      Wow, thanks! Happy Monday!

    • @user-tf7hf8jp7p
      @user-tf7hf8jp7p 3 роки тому

      @@ProjectFarm actually, its tuesday already🙂or wait a minute, here finland its tuesday alr still.

  • @kenball1980
    @kenball1980 3 роки тому +27

    I never knew cutting fluid actually speeds up drilling times. I'm going to start using it all the time, probably CRC or 3 in 1 in a pinch.

    • @evanvokes1694
      @evanvokes1694 3 роки тому +1

      Nothing really works once they got rid of 1.1.1 tricholoethane in rapid tap.
      Cutting with the new rapid tap with 5% acetone works better than anything that was presented but its still useless by way of comparison.
      Relton should have fought this as it has created far more environmental damage by not having it than the small amount of tricholo damage from use. Its not like there were millions of gallons of it made

  • @chuck1607
    @chuck1607 10 місяців тому

    I am in the market to purchase cutting oil. Thanks to your video my decision was quickly narrowed down to CLI & Tap Magic. Thank you for taking the time and effort to do this video.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  10 місяців тому

      Thanks and you are welcome!

  • @edtsch
    @edtsch 3 роки тому

    Thank you so much for this! I love carefully designed and implemented tests like these. Definitely learned something.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому

      You are welcome! Glad to hear!

  • @Mr_Sleaze
    @Mr_Sleaze 3 роки тому +144

    I want to paint my exhuast. I'd like to see a comparison of high heat paints.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +50

      Thanks for the video idea.

    • @RenaxTM91
      @RenaxTM91 3 роки тому +12

      None work good over time, thats my experience atleast, and I've tried a few and seen a few more... The combination of really high heat during many cycles, exposure to water when hot etc makes it really hard to do.. Ceramic coating is the only thing that holds up over time, and even that struggles near the turbo's...

    • @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS
      @TEAMWRIGHTEOUS 3 роки тому +4

      Titanium exhaust is the way to go.

    • @ChemicalU235
      @ChemicalU235 3 роки тому +1

      That is a very good idea

    • @stevehertz4878
      @stevehertz4878 3 роки тому +1

      I have found when it comes 2 engineering a clean surface 4 1. Then a good coat let it dry 4 a day then again.and works really well. I use plaid coat.

  • @ha-y-in6938
    @ha-y-in6938 3 роки тому +44

    Now finally it has been found, BACON goes with everything. Proven.

    • @StarlightWorkshop0z
      @StarlightWorkshop0z 3 роки тому +2

      Except the people that came from the sand and like their woman wrapped up

    • @hksp
      @hksp 3 роки тому +1

      not for the aloha snackbar lover

    • @wagonator6891
      @wagonator6891 3 роки тому +2

      @@StarlightWorkshop0z
      Works excellent as a repellent.

    • @StarlightWorkshop0z
      @StarlightWorkshop0z 3 роки тому +1

      @@wagonator6891 bacon could be the meaning of life

    • @ducewags
      @ducewags 3 роки тому +3

      @@StarlightWorkshop0z Bacon IS the meaning of life. BACON.

  • @geneloriot127
    @geneloriot127 2 роки тому

    WOW, an impressive video, all fact, super professional, and no wasted time. Excellent job!

  • @Chris-sx3he
    @Chris-sx3he 2 роки тому

    I'm always amazed at you're videos. Well done.

  • @johnossendorf9979
    @johnossendorf9979 3 роки тому +12

    Tap magic was all ways the cutting oil of choice in my father's steel fabrication shop.

  • @GoblinKnightLeo
    @GoblinKnightLeo 3 роки тому +18

    I've only ever used Tap Magic. These results were really interesting!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks so much!

    • @dpt4402
      @dpt4402 3 роки тому +2

      Same here, the small 4 oz cans are handy when your work involves the use of an extension ladder.

    • @dougberrett8094
      @dougberrett8094 3 роки тому +1

      I have used Tap Magic since 1970, but only to tap. Mostly with power tapping heads that tap much faster than hand tapping. Don’t use other stuff.

    • @paulkolodner2445
      @paulkolodner2445 3 роки тому

      Same here. But you have to admit that bacon grease has the clear aroma advantage.

    • @blackbirdxx928
      @blackbirdxx928 3 роки тому

      Tap magic,? It's not called drill magic? Must be a reason..lol

  • @barrishautomotive
    @barrishautomotive 3 роки тому

    I love Tap Magic. Great stuff. I use it for drilling, tapping, and lathe turning.

  • @iammoshpotato7793
    @iammoshpotato7793 Рік тому

    Iv always been a fan of tap magic Im glad to see under test it came out on top

  • @dariuszskiba8113
    @dariuszskiba8113 3 роки тому +10

    For the first time in my life I have actually used the knowledge from the YT channel in real life situation.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +5

      Glad to hear! Thanks for watching.

  • @KingAdrock420
    @KingAdrock420 3 роки тому +82

    You almost made me shoot Coca-cola out my nose when you started listing off the fat content of the shortening.
    But for a request, how about a video testing studfinders?

    • @Ronsonic
      @Ronsonic 3 роки тому +4

      That was my request yesterday. Buying a new house and will be doing a fair bit of work.

    • @DorianM222
      @DorianM222 3 роки тому +2

      And to also test the live wire detection in concrete and other types of walls. It never really works for me.

    • @PhaedruS007
      @PhaedruS007 3 роки тому

      Stud finders! Good one. I have many unnecessary holes in my drywall. I recently needed to hang something on an exterior wall covered in Stucco. I didn't even try my stupid studfinders on it.

    • @robholmes2129
      @robholmes2129 3 роки тому

      @@Ronsonic Dewalt and Milwaukee both offer wall scanners that show everything inside a wall,electric,plumbing and studs

    • @hailster
      @hailster 3 роки тому

      This is a great idea, I've used some pretty crappy name brand stud finders and some unknown Chinese brands that were awesome stud finders. I think this would be a great video to watch.

  • @paulcarovinci6796
    @paulcarovinci6796 3 роки тому +4

    I have been using water for the last few years and it has been working great. I run a Kalamazoo saw with a water base solution and that works the best.

  • @davidr6585
    @davidr6585 2 роки тому

    Excellent! You keep setting the bar higher.

  • @berlinetta350
    @berlinetta350 3 роки тому +29

    I guess I'll be using tap magic in my diesel motor from now on.

    • @MicahS70T5M
      @MicahS70T5M 3 роки тому

      Berlinetta I think you'd probably junk your engine. even though it might be better at lubricating, I'd be concerned about the hundreds of heat cycles your engine will experience in the time between oil changes.

    • @krASHExxx
      @krASHExxx 3 роки тому

      Ahahaha good one

    • @Jack-bv5xd
      @Jack-bv5xd 3 роки тому

      Micah N. r/whoosh

  • @oledcrt
    @oledcrt 3 роки тому +31

    I’m blown away by some of those tiny wear scars on the lubricity tester. I wonder how well RapidTap would work as engine oil? ;)

    • @greatdaneacdc
      @greatdaneacdc 3 роки тому +1

      Be a expensive oil change !

    • @evanvokes1694
      @evanvokes1694 3 роки тому

      Film strength on a plain bearing is not the same as how a tapping/cutting agent works.

    • @Erik_Swiger
      @Erik_Swiger 3 роки тому +6

      He should run engines using cutting oils! Would be a great competition!

    • @bagelbandit6076
      @bagelbandit6076 3 роки тому +3

      Or a 50/50 mix lol

    • @spankey0069
      @spankey0069 3 роки тому

      Best me to this comment

  • @uncontrollabledogs3791
    @uncontrollabledogs3791 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks for doing this video. I used to use cutting oil years ago but hated the cleanup, especially when needing paint. Will definately buy one of those products. Thanks

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +1

      You are so welcome!

    • @EgadsNo
      @EgadsNo 3 роки тому

      You might want to try Tap Magic H20X, it's water-soluble and leaves much less of a sticky residue.

  • @PovlKvols
    @PovlKvols Рік тому

    As always an excellent test from the one man testing center. You're amazing!

  • @jacobstephens6937
    @jacobstephens6937 3 роки тому +3

    Genuinely one of the best scientific-but also practical-shop product testing channels out there. Anybody can see how much thought, prep, work, and analysis goes into these videos. There’s never a video from Project Farm where I find myself wanting to click away before the video ends. Great work. I’ll see you on Patreon

  • @highnoon9333
    @highnoon9333 3 роки тому +4

    it's amazing how you devise all of these tests. That bearing wear test is so cool

  • @Iby200
    @Iby200 3 роки тому

    After this video I got tap magic for the first time tested on self tapping screws and what a difference it made.
    Thank you

  • @dtj9923
    @dtj9923 Рік тому

    You consistently put out some of the most entertaining and useful content on UA-cam. Your comparisons are really great. I love the garage test lab equipment, and of course bacon grease whenever you can test it!
    I typically use one of the two different versions of TapMagic depending on my application. The thick sticky version is great when you need the fluid to stick to something like a tap or you're loading it up into the flutes of a drill. The thin version is good all around if you aren't running coolant or a Kool-Mist unit. Loading it up on a chip brush and using it to keep turned or milled surfaces wet really improves cutting speed, tool life and surface finish. I also keep it in a pump oiler for shooting into holes especially when drilling or boring on a lathe. Definitely my go to cutting fluid.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  Рік тому +1

      Thanks! Thanks for the feedback.

  • @jakehealy1668
    @jakehealy1668 3 роки тому +7

    Love coming home from work on mondays and watching your latest video. Actually used quite a few of your videos to decide on some new tools, keep up the awesome videos man!

  • @TheRCBasher69420
    @TheRCBasher69420 3 роки тому +28

    Who thinks that he should try rapid tap as engine oil

    • @TBPony
      @TBPony 3 роки тому +2

      yeah seriously the super low wear marks on the bearing is very interesting, like a full oil and heat analysis would be fun to watch compared to a good synthetic motor oil or like an oil additive

    • @darkfur18
      @darkfur18 3 роки тому +1

      Absolutely this, It would be neat to see how it compares

    • @nashsimon8120
      @nashsimon8120 3 роки тому +1

      I agree

    • @justmetal227
      @justmetal227 3 роки тому +1

      This

    • @AndrewHowe_Is_Really_Neat
      @AndrewHowe_Is_Really_Neat 3 роки тому +2

      Was about to come down and comment this myself, I think it'd be neat if he did all others the ones with a small wear scar as well.

  • @blazeandcyrus
    @blazeandcyrus 3 роки тому

    I love it when my choice of product is the 'winner' been using Tap Magic for ages. Doesn't happen a lot but often enough. Thanks brother

  • @Welwynnick
    @Welwynnick Рік тому

    Fantastic video as always. If only all UA-camrs could get this much into a video! Many thanks, Nick

  • @jamesfrench7299
    @jamesfrench7299 3 роки тому +21

    Bacon grease would be great for drilling in the morning, and personal lube for "night drilling" 😂.

  • @mtlefty8687
    @mtlefty8687 3 роки тому +3

    I'm absolutely hooked on your videos. Always looking forward to your next one. Would love to see a comparison on gas powered wood chipper/shredders for the average home owner.

  • @Venthorn
    @Venthorn 3 роки тому

    I really appreciate this video. Directly impacts what I'm going to buy when my current bottle of cutting fluid runs out.

  • @bigjohnson4983
    @bigjohnson4983 3 роки тому +1

    I love your channel and try not to miss any of your projects. I work for a large industrial company and we only use Tap Magic at our shops.

  • @alistairunie1710
    @alistairunie1710 3 роки тому +6

    Would love to see a Behind the Scenes style video. Maybe showing how much raw footage you have to look through and edit, camera setups, how you started out, how much effort you have to do shopping for all the goods, and bloopers lol idk I am just spit balling ideas! I love the channel, its borderline theraputic watching and listening to you work away! Keep the videos coming!!

  • @Zuuby
    @Zuuby 3 роки тому +29

    Dang, that was nearly 15 minutes long? Not once did I get impatient or check the time remaining in the video. I was completely absorbed and lost track of time, similar to dreaming. What is this sorcery?! 👍

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +5

      lol Thanks for watching.

    • @SonicBoone56
      @SonicBoone56 3 роки тому +5

      I just get sad when the video actually ends lol

  • @denisestevens5215
    @denisestevens5215 2 роки тому

    Loved this video ... kept my attention all the way through, and even entertaining with all the cooking and household brands ... i bought Tap Magic, but had no idea how it would perform, needless to say i'm happy!

  • @ndungukaberere8477
    @ndungukaberere8477 2 роки тому +1

    This was definitely a good video, the idea & execution is simply superb. I like your scientific approach to this & for that I've subscribed to see more of your content in future.

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  2 роки тому

      Thanks for watching and subscribing!

  • @melloyellogsxr
    @melloyellogsxr 3 роки тому +11

    Summer is here and already a particular hot one. UA-cam is bombarding us with "portable AC units" artic air and the like making outrageous claims such as cooling a room to 65° in just minutes which is obviously bs.. You do a great job with a scientific approach and a lot of us count on you and we all appreciate what you do.. Thank you.

    • @melloyellogsxr
      @melloyellogsxr 3 роки тому

      @Hydin Biden yeah if that. I ended up buying one from home depot. It came with a 30 day return for $40 so i gave it a shot. It was the Arctic air but they are all basically the same. Electric fan that blows on ice from your freezer and water. It's garbage a gimmick. I knew better going in. Save yourself $40 and put a bucket of ice in front of your fan..

    • @melloyellogsxr
      @melloyellogsxr 3 роки тому

      @Hydin Biden lol.. You could have been a millionaire should have patented it.. Lol but seriously those are basically the same concept of what you did but on a slightly smaller scale resulting in more trips to the freezer.. I don't know where they got their statistics on cooling a room to 65° in minutes they must have been performing the test in Antarctica mid winter on top of a mountain.

  • @seanwolfe9321
    @seanwolfe9321 3 роки тому +4

    Wow! That was VERY informative! You gained a new subscriber just from this one video. Nice job!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +2

      Thanks for watching and subscribing!

  • @paveljetensky
    @paveljetensky 2 роки тому

    Sir, this is fantastic video. We were just looking for info why we could not drill through, and this helped us a lot, showing that actually it is very easy to destroy drill edges by drilling without proper lubricant. Tx a lot.

  • @kikupub71
    @kikupub71 2 роки тому

    Thanks, PF, for doing the leg work on cutting fluid. I definitely know what to buy now!

  • @DoctorPrepperMD
    @DoctorPrepperMD 3 роки тому +11

    As a man that quit high school, ended up with a physics degree and a medical degree, now returning to the trades I find you videos awesome. You understand and do an amazing job of scientifically evaluating comparisons and at the same time being real!!!

    • @ProjectFarm
      @ProjectFarm  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks so much!

    • @markhull1366
      @markhull1366 3 роки тому

      Wow, that's an amazing story. Would you consider making a video on how all that came about and post it on YT? It sounds like a very interesting story that would be very inspirational.

  • @Livedracersteve
    @Livedracersteve 3 роки тому +27

    Me taking my parts to inspection. Inspector: “why do these parts smell like bacon”

  • @Qkriek
    @Qkriek 2 роки тому

    Its a good day when you find the item that tested the best at your local hardware store! Thanks Project Farm for another awesome video.

  • @03redrubi
    @03redrubi 2 роки тому

    Tap magic was always my go to, when I needed GREAT threads. Definitely prolonged tool life, with cutting tools.