[PG] NZ Wars: Stories of Wairau | Documentary | RNZ

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  • Опубліковано 2 лют 2023
  • www.rnz.co.nz/wairau
    The Wairau Affray in 1843 is considered the first of the NZ Wars conflicts and the only one to take place in the South Island.
    Made with the support of NZ On Air.

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  • @dianneprice445
    @dianneprice445 Рік тому +70

    I hope this history is taught in schools today. My generation didn't get educated on the history. That ignorance of mine and previous generations causes so much harm. Thank you

    • @siix477
      @siix477 Рік тому +13

      If we wait for the schools, we might be waiting a long time. I learned about Rangihaetata from my father who took me to Tuamarina when I was a boy. We walked the ground and he retold and showed me what happened. Maybe Te Ao Maori has traditions and ways that extend beyond the formal classroom setting? Could it be that Pakeha "schools" aren't always the preferred or appropriate method for transferring certain knowledge and skills? Maybe Te Ao Maori is just different to the Pakeha world and that's ok? Tihei mauri ora.

    • @shinglehillclimber88
      @shinglehillclimber88 Рік тому

      Nicely said Damian

    • @graemelee5701
      @graemelee5701 Рік тому +5

      The first of human settlement and the inter tribal fighting in this nation prior to European settlement are primarily hidden within tribal stories of the tribes. However there are numerous eye witness accounts that given by elderly tribal chiefs that reveal that even before European settlement this country was not a safe place and the law of Utu was actively practiced.
      Now a different one law for all applies we can only but hope that by learning from the past peace can prevail now and for future generations of all those born of this nation.

    • @Brucemcleod2345
      @Brucemcleod2345 10 місяців тому

      What are you going to do about it then?

    • @TanerauPairama
      @TanerauPairama 10 місяців тому

      ​@@siix477in those dense and unforgiving marsh's is a lot of history there. If you keep heading north east of picton you'll come across a sight seeing spot called Karaka Pointe where there is a path to walk, that is such a awesome and spine tingling place.

  • @siix477
    @siix477 Рік тому +39

    Little disappointed there wasn't a touch more focus on the details of the event. My understanding is a shot was accidentally fired while crossing the many waka lashed together like a big raft right across the creek. Sadly, this stray shot killed Te Rongo. Thompson's party then retreated to the high ground (many hadn’t yet crossed the creek) Te Rangihaeata and his men came out into the open to resolve matters in good faith. Thompson’s men then deliberately fired on them from the high ground without warning. Cowadice in the extreme. Te Rangihaeata then stormed the high ground and killed the captives on that ground. If you visit the memorial and look down at the creek, you can see the high ground provided a significant advantage. There was nothing dignified about Thomson actions that day, he totally underestimated Ngāti Toa... which only happens once.

  • @daveyiam
    @daveyiam Рік тому +31

    An excellent documentary that really helps me contextualize my family history. My GGG Grandfather was one of those Pākehā settlers that got caught up in Wakefield's mad operation. John was a barely literate English gardener that moved with his family to NZ for a better life but struggled to find work in Whakatū Nelson. He was enlisted (or press ganged according to some stories) to crew the ship taking Wakefield to Wairau. Here he took part in and (barely) survived the fight. After escaping, he was able to return with Rev. Ironside to help bury the Pākehā dead. Afterwards, he said that thoughts of reuniting with his wife and young children was all that sustained him during this period.
    As a child I thought of this story of my ancestor as a epic adventure, as an adult... let's just say the complexities of this tragic, and seemingly preventable, incident will take time to process. Needless to say, my tamariki will learn about both sides of their Māori/Pākehā whakapapa. Ngā mihi nui. Thank you.

    • @draebarbarich1804
      @draebarbarich1804 Рік тому +2

      I can't even watch these. It's just so hurtful😢

    • @tangoomegaalpha
      @tangoomegaalpha 11 місяців тому +6

      This is a powerful story and statement, I always knew that the soldiers had no choice in their choices of future endeavours. I'm glad he got to go home to bring you to light. I'm the GGG grandson of King Potatau and if I have his mind then I believe his connection to pakeha was just. I'm glad my ancestor lived so that I could too.

    • @kiwiprouddavids724
      @kiwiprouddavids724 6 місяців тому

      Yeah same sort of a deal for me and my family.

    • @sonnyboy9257
      @sonnyboy9257 5 місяців тому

      Id feel the same if they were honest lol

    • @ellyharris4345
      @ellyharris4345 5 місяців тому +1

      Namaste. My mum would remind me theres two sides to every story, then theres the truth. History is written by the victors. We are all of one love and I want to walk with love. Churr

  • @Tehui1974
    @Tehui1974 Рік тому +25

    I've enjoyed watching the NZ Wars series. Keep up the good work RNZ.

  • @darrylwhite9660
    @darrylwhite9660 Рік тому +6

    Mihi, another triumph to add to your growing collection of triumphs. A long overdue re-look at this difficult affair.

  • @pouwakaruwhiu8349
    @pouwakaruwhiu8349 Рік тому +15

    Love your videos , telling it how it was the early years of New Zealand keep up the good work.

  • @tjsoulsurfer45
    @tjsoulsurfer45 Рік тому +10

    I was taught the colonial narrative. In the end the truth will always come to light.

  • @theindigenousnarrative8783
    @theindigenousnarrative8783 Рік тому +15

    Straight to the point this is what England has always done. Love this the true history of n.z
    I acknowledge all the Māori lost is this battle may their spirit rest in hawaikii with our tupuna..

    • @tima5750
      @tima5750 Рік тому +1

      What happened to the Moriori people ?

    • @1lionconqueror
      @1lionconqueror Рік тому +1

      @@tima5750 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moriori

    • @ENZEE1
      @ENZEE1 Рік тому +8

      ​@@tima5750the people of ngati moriori are still alive mate. They don't like being a mysterious story pakeha made that Maori killed their tribe. It's also not your fault you got given stupid education about Maori. If you ask me pakeha probably tried to kill their tribe to aquire their lands and then tried to blame Maori for their horrific acts against maori people.

    • @tima5750
      @tima5750 Рік тому +1

      @@ENZEE1 oh this old chestnut .. all accounts are from pakeha .. and Māoris never committed violent crimes against each other and wiped out other tribes .. it’s all a white person conspiracy. The only moriori alive to tell the tale were the slaves that remained

    • @TanerauPairama
      @TanerauPairama 10 місяців тому +2

      ​@@tima5750they are still here. Some say they maori killed them off, some say they left to sail to another place. But thru stories passed on to me by a Kaumatua they were red-haired people and of pale skin a type of iwi that amalgamated with another small iwi and were forced further south because of their indifference. They were forced so far south that to get away from all their troubles of the land they sailed to Rekohu/Rangiaotea (Chatham Islands) to find peace. Some of them come back to the main land after surviving tribal slaughter by both maori and Europeans as they were a passive and friendly natured people. The ones that escaped the massacre had children with other tribes. Some iwi in NZ have naturally red haired kids. Which is mostly a throwback in genetics to the moriori.

  • @kjmax1068
    @kjmax1068 Рік тому +3

    This is the area my forefathers came to. I had no idea of this history. Thank you so much for enlightenment

  • @noelzydee2636
    @noelzydee2636 8 місяців тому +7

    I have always wondered why maori were so passionate and adamant about their land's and why they'd fight for it. Now, watching all these video's, I've come to realize and understand the reasoning behind their fight against colonization and especially against pakeha. Im 40 now and had no idea of the stories behind Aotearoa and the battles of the maori people had to endure to fight for such rights.

  • @andrewlim9345
    @andrewlim9345 Рік тому +9

    Thanks, learnt more about the background to the Wairau affair.

  • @skidlinerz
    @skidlinerz Рік тому +7

    75 million payout and an apology from the crown will never make up for the loss Ngati Toa and many other iwi experienced from the Crown.

    • @promovidnz1754
      @promovidnz1754 8 місяців тому +1

      How much more money does they need. What did they do with the 75 million?

    • @skidlinerz
      @skidlinerz 8 місяців тому

      @@promovidnz1754 why dont you ask them

    • @user-zu2sj6wj7r
      @user-zu2sj6wj7r 8 місяців тому +2

      Tribal elite bought new rangerovers and gave nothing to their people .

    • @Digmen1
      @Digmen1 2 місяці тому

      The maori chiefs sold their land in South Island.
      They wanted the money and the muskets and the blankets.
      Do blame us Europeans
      The Maori anted Europeans to come here and stop the musket wars
      Blame your ancestors who sold the land
      And bear in mind that most of the South Island was pretty baren and useless at the time.
      And that there were only about 2000 maori in the whole South Island

  • @KahurangiSteez
    @KahurangiSteez 8 місяців тому +2

    This a really cool idea. I never knew this series existed, I'm going to watch all of them. Not quite as detailed as Michael Kings Penguin History but some really riveting korero.

  • @user-oo4zo8yy5u
    @user-oo4zo8yy5u Рік тому +2

    All government buildings should be under Iwi ownership. Taxpayers can then pay the lease. That'd be fair compensation.

  • @tw7278
    @tw7278 25 днів тому

    Thank you to Mihingārangi one again for bringing our retold history back into our indigenous / iwi perspective and preserving this kōrero.
    McKillop was an ensign of the British navy, who wrote clear accurate notes of the affray, as he was there, along with captain English also from the navy. The NZ Company had not attained the lawful right to have an official armed force for Nelson and wairau appointed to them, so they acquired soldiers paraded as simple farmers. Do not be mistaken, Police magistrate Thompson (was suffering from syphilis hence his apparent rage filled outbursts) was egged on by Arthur and the Wakefields to make an example of Te Rauparaha and it was at a public meeting that he was overheard by Ngati Toa, calling Te Rauparaha a thuggish bully , a lowly dog that should be taught a lesson, and " that he could be tempted even by a piece of damper bread" that was the insult returned, for it was ngau tuara kōrero of our Chief and like many before, each insult would be accounted and answered to.
    A wero by te Waaka te Kotua was also delivered and Thompson stood on the taki. In Mckillops diary he remembers hearing fire English fire, not forward English forward. The first shot took Te Rongo. The archeological evidence found at the exhumation and checking of the skull of Te Rongo determined by a current day (1990s) forensic police investigator, she was killed by a marksman shot to temple to temple. My Whānau remembers this story too well because mum Raiha Waitohi Waaka retold this kōrero from her grand aunt Kui Mata Kotua who was alive at that time .

  • @margaretstuart8265
    @margaretstuart8265 Рік тому

    Very well researched and narrated. Ka rawe

  • @joshurrr
    @joshurrr Рік тому +1

    At the 6:44 minute mark of this video is shown a painting which has a bent gum tree in the background, in 28 December 1836 by the old gum tree In Glenelg South Australia under the command of Hindmarsh Stevenson gave the proclamation of South Australia by what looks like the exact tree in this painting

  • @John-ee5dh
    @John-ee5dh Рік тому +8

    I love the part where George grey asks the chief what will you eat , the chief responds we will eat you beautiful

    • @jenlt5125
      @jenlt5125 Рік тому +1

      Yes because they had already wiped out 6 species of Moa by this stage, in just 3 generations actually, cannibalism followed. This is also history. I don't think it's impressive or funny at all, it's depraved. It's also a good way to introduce disease.

    • @melaroha8003
      @melaroha8003 Рік тому +3

      @@jenlt5125 people from all different cultures did the same thing at one point In history even Pakeha.

    • @TanerauPairama
      @TanerauPairama 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@jenlt5125most Maori were not cannibals as there was plenty of recourses for food as they were taught to live off the land, rivers, streams and sea. Most iwi thought of cannibalism as Tapu(sacred) and was only for the most vile and cursed people. When i was a little kid a maori elder told me this story around a firepit at the beach while we were cooking our toheroa.

    • @user-no3sl6xz1i
      @user-no3sl6xz1i 3 місяці тому

      ​@jenlt5125 you need to look up European cannibalism. Cooked human flesh were being sold in markets over in Europe because of famine. Missionaries were sent to nz to stop cannibalism meanwhile Europeans were eating mummies for medicinal purposes

  • @gdotgotyothot
    @gdotgotyothot Рік тому +6

    Make more of these 💯

  • @wifla463
    @wifla463 Рік тому +2

    Awesome watch 🥰

  • @melissanuku5470
    @melissanuku5470 Рік тому +5

    ARE THESE SERIES BEING SHOWN TO OUR TAMARIKI IN KURA? THEY SHOULD BE

    • @tima5750
      @tima5750 Рік тому

      Moriori

    • @yo_Aunty.from_NZ
      @yo_Aunty.from_NZ Рік тому +1

      Nope the teach the corrupted story of te tiriti o waitangi made by pakeha (te kuini)

  • @andrewattenboroughtwothumb4697
    @andrewattenboroughtwothumb4697 25 днів тому

    Some of my ancestors on my mother’s side of the family were from Waikato and from Wellington and from Auckland in Nz and from the Cook Islands

  • @kjmax1068
    @kjmax1068 Рік тому +5

    So so sad. Maori have been so wronged. This had me in tears

  • @bomblifenewzealand
    @bomblifenewzealand Рік тому +8

    Thats what happens when you try be foolish and greedy for land. They had all that time to fix the solution instead tried to ignore it. They couldnt ignore the patu in the end.

  • @barloswkitheweasel1836
    @barloswkitheweasel1836 Рік тому

    Could you do a similar docco on Cannibal Cove Marlborough also. Captain Cooks crew cooked

  • @joevip76
    @joevip76 3 місяці тому

    It's like,- now is a good time to tell these salvages their history. How could you? I'm so crushed and discussed with this knowledge it's hurt's, but we are warriors, we have love and compassion like no other, we're a Nation of the Pacific Ocean. 🌊 In the end the truth will prevail. Let our voices be heard my God Amen 🙏

  • @user-zu2sj6wj7r
    @user-zu2sj6wj7r 8 місяців тому +3

    Do one on the maori massacre of the crew and passengers of the Boyd in Whangaroa.

  • @saberlove7232
    @saberlove7232 Рік тому +3

    Wellington Company = New Zealand Company. History repeats.

  • @decay-154
    @decay-154 Рік тому +2

    Great to hear Ngati Toa understanding of Wairau Incident . Grew up in Blenheim sad to see rich greedy fools from Nelson / England get so many people killed . History seemed to repeat in Waikato Land wars of 1860s rich greedy fools from waikato wanted Tainui land . 1st timothy 6:10 the love of money is the root cause of all kinds of evil . Hoping one day clan Mac Gregor will receive compensation from the Crown for our confiscated land . Does anyone know what happened to Gaptain Wakefields sword?

  • @jimmurihiku8009
    @jimmurihiku8009 Рік тому +5

    The biggest massacre and injustice in post European times in the south island wasn't Europeans but the unhinged cannibal ,Te Rauparaha on his raiding Kaiapoi.
    Stop the racist bs you are painting the European.
    My ancestors got on well with the Europeans and traded favorable with them and to this day never had a problem.

  • @jeremymia4949
    @jeremymia4949 Рік тому

    Nice RNZ...

  • @marshalldavid4467
    @marshalldavid4467 5 місяців тому

    I traced my earliest European ancestor in New Zealand from here, he was a waler named Michael Aldridge hes got a bay in port Underwood named after him call "tongue bay" as he was a tongue between Maori and English speakers, he had a maori wife named pari and he helped both European and maoris after the affray. He helped some of the Europeans who ran on to his property in the area which he purchased from a chief in 1839 a year after he came to NZ. He helped ngati toa cross the cook strait and talked to them after the event with reverend Samuel Ironside also fluent in te reo and collected the pakeha bodies to bury them. The monument marks the mass grave that he helped dig and the maoris were buried in their tribal area from what I read and probably given a traditional burial

  • @dannyjacobson1963
    @dannyjacobson1963 Рік тому

    Crazy how the teriti of waitangi was signed before the wars kicked off pretty much saying Maoris didn’t even no what it was also crazy how the pakeha hold it tightly today and so they should

  • @maureenmcsweeney9768
    @maureenmcsweeney9768 10 місяців тому

    It's over sixty years since I lived In NZ and I hope that a more balanced and true history curriculum is now being taught in schools in 2023.

  • @adriennetibble4156
    @adriennetibble4156 7 місяців тому +1

    +Chief Rawiri Puaha was the son of Te Matoe a senior chief. +Nohorua and Te Rauparaha were his uncles. Brothers of his mother Hinekoto.
    +He was also the resident Chief of the Wairau with his brothers Te Kanae and Tamaihengia. Those two were also apprehended with Te Rauparaha from Taupo Pa.
    +Some of the muskets dropped by Wakefields men were not even loaded properly and wouldn't have fired. Which shows how inexperienced they were. They lost their lives on a fools errand. And they never stood a chance.
    +The three chiefs who signed over the Wairau to the crown were Rawiri Puaha, Tamihana Te Rauparaha and Matene Te Whiwhi..... This was basically a ransom to procure the release of Te Rauparaha. Which sounds like kidnapping and blackmail to me 🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @sandiego1973nz
    @sandiego1973nz Рік тому +1

    That was moen, awesome 👌

  • @waynecarrol3415
    @waynecarrol3415 Рік тому +5

    I’m an Aussie (so nothing invested in this) Wakefield got what he deserved Māori were the decent higher ethical grounds

    • @margaretstuart8265
      @margaretstuart8265 Рік тому +2

      Wakefield's first attempt at private land sales to colonial settlers was Adelaide.

    • @joshurrr
      @joshurrr Рік тому

      Right, that explains the painting at the 6:44 mark then

    • @CalebRota-fe7gn
      @CalebRota-fe7gn 7 місяців тому

      thank you..

  • @halielong5424
    @halielong5424 Рік тому +4

    maori were defending their land from being taken from them.

  • @alainabradley6655
    @alainabradley6655 Рік тому +1

    Good too see some honest history. Greed is such an ugly thing

  • @promovidnz1754
    @promovidnz1754 8 місяців тому +1

    The documentary starts by saying the Maori were utterly devastated after this. Yet Maori names remained up and down the country - many maraes remained - the people were not wipe out - the real devastation happened after the 1950s when they were urbanised.

    • @accessdenied1able
      @accessdenied1able 16 днів тому +1

      Colonisation is exactly that, .. it started before urbanisation, it started with the displacement,

  • @mohammedbinladen4619
    @mohammedbinladen4619 20 днів тому

    The lesson, don't rebel against the British crown. We are all his Majesty's subjects.

  • @calebtana104
    @calebtana104 3 місяці тому +1

    Should make these stories into movies

    • @francois9747
      @francois9747 2 місяці тому

      You should definitely check out the film "The Convert" just got released on the 13th of March and is set around the same time period as this video.

  • @gotowned6172
    @gotowned6172 4 місяці тому

    Can someone please tell me in short... this entire video on what happened. As short but clear on this story please.

    • @numbereightyseven
      @numbereightyseven Місяць тому

      What are you saying? It's hard to know what your comment means.

  • @parkiwi4787
    @parkiwi4787 Рік тому +8

    Mistake, Maori never said they owned the land. They had the right to live on and protect it.

    • @k3630
      @k3630 Рік тому +1

      Might is right when it comes to land ownership. Been like that everywhere for all time

  • @pareheu8783
    @pareheu8783 11 місяців тому

    My great grand father is Te Haeata from Waikato

  • @zealantis
    @zealantis Рік тому +1

    0:34
    10:02 - 10:38
    11:36
    12:45
    19:33
    19:53
    20:17
    45:39
    45:51
    49:46 Māori rules, 5:50 governor uses that
    51:38 true story

  • @jaydentyrell9483
    @jaydentyrell9483 Рік тому +2

    Chur Māori's. ♥️

  • @matai2437
    @matai2437 Рік тому +1

    If
    The land was confiscated it means it doesn't belong to them

  • @grahamhughes2025
    @grahamhughes2025 8 місяців тому +1

    thank you, thank you, thank you. Good truth to know, but not a good truth. I have heard and will carry that in my kete, that kete of hope for justice that tangata whenua have been so very very patient with. What scumbags the Wakefields and Grey were. Reading Te Puea by Michael king, Grey was the dirty dog there too with taking an opportunity to grab land...and destroy a thiving Kingitanga.....I am ashamed by those actions.

  • @jeremiahking3185
    @jeremiahking3185 Рік тому +2

    Same goes to Australia america

  • @coastsouljah
    @coastsouljah Рік тому

    It's good you have your hair blonde and wear European makeup.
    At least now, some might hear you more. And might take this information seriously..

  • @stealthslayer4406
    @stealthslayer4406 Рік тому

    Today Thompson roams the underworld with no “mana” known as the fool who’s temperament and greed got him and others killed

  • @xjr1300nut
    @xjr1300nut Рік тому +1

    What needs to be realized there were shysters on both sides when it came to land sales.
    Te Raupreha was known to sell land not his, as did other tribal chiefs.
    There are records of some blocks of land being sold several times in one day to unsuspecting settlers, look at Taranaki and Southland.
    My take on most of the land issues is geed on both sides, just like the later greed we are experiencing through the Waitangi tribunal today.

    • @1eastcoastqueen
      @1eastcoastqueen 9 місяців тому

      wheres your evidence? otherwise this is heresay

  • @jeremiahking3185
    @jeremiahking3185 Рік тому +5

    Thats why us maoris got nothing but we are tangata whenua we git rights💯👊🏽

    • @rossyreincarnated3017
      @rossyreincarnated3017 Рік тому +1

      Got nothing? Bro, Maori are very well catered for today. Prioritized in almost everything.

    • @jamesmorgan9282
      @jamesmorgan9282 Рік тому +3

      @@rossyreincarnated3017 Just give back the land.

    • @rossyreincarnated3017
      @rossyreincarnated3017 Рік тому +2

      @@jamesmorgan9282 the land is often returned but then sold off then reclaimed once again, I don't think you know how greedy Maori operate. Settlements are constant and massive, Maori are not hard done by in this country. Which is great but those dirty corrupt iwis need to stop playing perpetual victim.

    • @Tehui1974
      @Tehui1974 Рік тому

      @@rossyreincarnated3017 In Treaty Settlements, the financial compensation is roughly 1-2% of the real value. For example, Ngai Tahu received $170M for land that was valued at $18B. Pākeha were privileged at the expense of Māori. Want to swap?

    • @rossyreincarnated3017
      @rossyreincarnated3017 Рік тому

      @@Tehui1974 sure I'll swap, I have no land or money though.

  • @chucktify
    @chucktify 10 місяців тому

    Thers shouldn't be an explanation for the actions of Rangihaeata. Pakeha had it coming and still do.

  • @promovidnz1754
    @promovidnz1754 8 місяців тому

    Ha - equating Te Raparaha with Queen Victoria is a bit of a joke.

  • @john23402
    @john23402 6 місяців тому

    It is not important what the truth is about land deals. When one cannot reject outsiders from entering his territories, he will eventually lose his land.

  • @user-vo5mf3ly9s
    @user-vo5mf3ly9s 2 місяці тому

    When someone surrender is a prisoner all the others is brutality

  • @mohammedbinladen4619
    @mohammedbinladen4619 20 днів тому

    You have to at least wonder how accurate this is considering it's RNZ, and RNZ is known to have a far left bias.

    • @accessdenied1able
      @accessdenied1able 16 днів тому

      dr Vince O'Malley is well researched, and so is governor fiztroys and swains declaration, well recorded, . You guys don't like the truth being revealed, ... Research Wakefield and his crimes in England, but then you lot ain't really interested in the truth, just protecting the colonial narritive, ..

  • @adamskinner5868
    @adamskinner5868 8 місяців тому

    I have given up faith in the Waitangi tribunal after I learned something about those sitting on it deciding what's true, right or fair. I heard one of the commissioners speak at uni and it didn't seem very fair or factual to me, more like personal opinion

  • @user-vo5mf3ly9s
    @user-vo5mf3ly9s 2 місяці тому

    The funny thing that the warriors who dance in the video especially the women look very European

  • @charged2times542
    @charged2times542 Рік тому

    Just in time for Waitangi day 🤣🤣

  • @user-oo4zo8yy5u
    @user-oo4zo8yy5u Рік тому +1

    All of the South Island Maori are white or fair-skinned today because the men were killed and the women were raped after this event. When are we gonna talk about that?

  • @promovidnz1754
    @promovidnz1754 8 місяців тому

    The bald white guy with popping eyes certainly embelishes the history even though he was not there.

    • @promovidnz1754
      @promovidnz1754 8 місяців тому

      Ie he says he spoke in a most horrible voice. Got any recordings to back that up.

  • @annemackay-ib4gy
    @annemackay-ib4gy 7 місяців тому

    Im so pleased theyve aired this as its been one sided where the maori have run riot with their hard done by stories. The maori are lucky, they have maori and European blood, and should be celebrating both heritages, cos thats what they are, a mixture of European and maori blood. Indigenous on that basis, NO, their ancestors travelled to nz, so again, Indigenous, NO.

  • @john23402
    @john23402 6 місяців тому

    It sounds like if any details of incident changed, the outcome would be different. What nonsense! Nothing would change as it was.

  • @simon-ds1vp
    @simon-ds1vp 4 місяці тому +1

    utter decimation ,,, Forbes is making a career of rewriting history to create a new narrative

  • @klburroughsnz
    @klburroughsnz Рік тому +5

    My understanding from reading a very brief history of this conflict & the Nelson area is that Ngati Toa lived west of Hamilton until the 1820s when Tainui forced them out (stole their lands?) and they then moved south, fought & conquered Ngati Ira (in the Wellington area) who were eradicated (so Ngati Toa stole their lands) They Ngati Toa also 'took' lands in the Nelson region. So who 'owned' these lands prior as it appears they were only in the region approx 20yrs before this tragedy unfolded?
    Also spoken history seems to focus on Pakeha as the only ones who killed and stole lands, when they appear to simply be the last to do so

    • @jeremywhakarau2403
      @jeremywhakarau2403 Рік тому +5

      Your understanding is based on your racist opinion

    • @Billythekiddnz
      @Billythekiddnz Рік тому

      Im offended by your racist ignorance 😤

    • @rossyreincarnated3017
      @rossyreincarnated3017 Рік тому

      @@jeremywhakarau2403 could you be specific, please.

    • @klburroughsnz
      @klburroughsnz Рік тому

      @@Billythekiddnz So the historical info I quoted (not mine) is wrong?

    • @klburroughsnz
      @klburroughsnz Рік тому

      @@jeremywhakarau2403 So is the historical info I quoted (not mine) wrong?

  • @torqingheads
    @torqingheads Рік тому

    Quite a history about the Maori - put the Inca's or the Aztecs to shame in degeneration. Outcast during the 13th century as weaker primitive Neolithic people by the invading Hawaiians & Tongans (Maori were from the original wave of primitive Asian/Melanesians pushed right out across the Eastern Pacific by successive stronger more advanced groups coming from the west). They were outcast on rafts and some floated up in NZ stranded for 500 years. The weaker were pushed down to the South Island or Chathams etc. So the South Island Maori (had their own language) were the weakest of the weak. They were captured and eaten as 'Slave flesh' by the northern Maori doing raids. (Well they all ate each other - 80% of Maori pre European were dark skinned easily fattened slaves farmed and eaten by a lighter skinned 'Ariki' thin wiry elite royal caste). So it was with some righteousness as well as British cunning that they armed the southern Maori who then with muskets launched a genocidal war on the north.. That plus measles & flu halved the Maori population and removed most of the elite. The British then liberated the slaves and outlawed cannibalism. The northern Maori fought with the British against the south bad west Maori 'rebels'. The Maori sued for peace and a treaty was signed that removed all sovereignty and made them subjects to the English crown where the English would protect them from each other. Land could only be sold to or via the Crown. Maori could live on their reservations with native custom but none did. The treaty of Waitangi is strikingly clear in that the Maori cede sovereignty completely and become citizens of Great Britain - all 3 clauses lock that in. Nothing in today's 'Maori' culture is authentic. The music - all European (Maoris did not have tonal music, the songs are missionary tunes or introduced - Poi dance is from Islands and Stick dance from old Malaya. The carvings and art - all European - Arabesques that was the fashion at the time. Original Maori had limited dash carving and no painting of objects. No written language - all the syntax & grammar plus vowel inflection is European. No technology - some lagoon canoes and wood or stone Neolithic tools. No food sources - like pigs or crops - they left that all behind, all they had was a weak inbred fox (now extinct), some rats and a weak dismal pacific yam. They ate out all the bird-life, didn't know how to farm the sea as were island people and so they turned to societal cannibalism. Today - no full blood or half blood left. No genuine tradition and almost all are offspring of Maori slave females sold to white settlers for muskets or food. -So more fake than the 'Sioux' or 'Cherokee' or 'Crow' who had at least retained some genuineness about who they were and their history. -Everything you 'saw or experienced' is Fake. A totally convected disneyfied tokenistic set of inventions fueled by a grievance culture of mixed-race imposters fetishing a false past bad history because it pays benefits.
    'This Horrid Practice' - Professor Paul Moon, "A Savage Country" Professor Paul Moon 'Behind The Tattooed Face' - Heretaunga Pat Baker, 'Anthropology In The South Seas' - H D Skinner

    • @levimcmeekin6690
      @levimcmeekin6690 11 місяців тому

      😂😂😂

    • @TanerauPairama
      @TanerauPairama 10 місяців тому

      @torqingheads
      Is that right?!
      I learnt to carve at a young age an was taught how to examine and read the story being shown. As it is a form of communication and history. My kaiako, told me that he was taught by his great grandfather who learnt from his own koro before they passed n im positive that taa moko is another way to express n show our history on our skin. My kaiako also said that the first taa moko that was done was to impress another mans wife, which eventually worked. Enraged by her for leaving him for another, he also had his people carve what he saw around his Paa and Marae onto himself to get her back but doing this angered his other wives so they snuck into the other iwi at night killing her an marking her body with koru n curved gashes to her face, stomach, hips and thighs.
      How much of that is true? Im not sure. But when i was being told this i could tell that he missed his koro n always told stories to us bout things i didnt understand then. But im sure as hell now, that he told stories that was told to him by his ggf he was a bit of a hardarse, strict asf but loving.
      Sorry for the long bloody speech lol.

    • @otani8806
      @otani8806 4 місяці тому

      Never we're a spiritual people. The colonialists best shot was to bred us out and maybe they did. But they couldn't wipe out the language or the rituals. If anything we're a lot closer and more civil towards each other than at any other time in our history(it is a big deal) The Mana of the land transcends the physical. They even have a maori version of the N.Z anthem. That they perform on the international stage. We're stronger now confident in the direction of our progress also knowing that there's still a long way to go Kia Kaha Kotahi Ra
      Our strength is our unity.

  • @sarah-angelhopa6347
    @sarah-angelhopa6347 4 місяці тому

    Pakeha = Resource & Power through money.
    Maori = Indigenous Rights. Oppressed innocent people that were taken advantage of.

    • @user-oh4yd5uh4e
      @user-oh4yd5uh4e 2 місяці тому

      Pakeha = don´t do ram-raids.
      Maori = do ram-raids.

  • @tuhoejohnson7005
    @tuhoejohnson7005 Рік тому +1

    This chick just telling her side of the war an not true facts.. talk to a old matua he'll give you the truth

  • @stopcogovernance
    @stopcogovernance 2 місяці тому

    Never has so much money been spent on such dishonesty.

  • @wiseone8749
    @wiseone8749 Рік тому

    Im from ngapuhi ki whangaroa watching this brings anger cause of what the colonizers did

    • @peterpan1435
      @peterpan1435 Рік тому +1

      Eventually colonisers from somewhere would arrive in this country.
      Thankfully it was the British.

    • @Tehui1974
      @Tehui1974 Рік тому +3

      @@peterpan1435 Yep, the British treated the Indians. Aboriginals and Māori with so much respect.

  • @promovidnz1754
    @promovidnz1754 8 місяців тому +1

    The Maori knew that by murdering the colonial prisoners - they would be starting something bigger. They could have let them go in the really wanted peace - but they did not.

  • @geoffreycollis7041
    @geoffreycollis7041 Рік тому

    From a Pakaha`s perspective, he had every right to exact revenge for his wife`s murder

  • @natashagoss9760
    @natashagoss9760 5 місяців тому

    Sorry but none of that land was ever truly ngati toa land I wish they would say the truth when also so called speaking theirs

    • @echidna276
      @echidna276 4 місяці тому

      They only really "owned" the coasts. They never went far enough inland, as they didn't know it.

  • @adielstephenson2929
    @adielstephenson2929 Рік тому

    Fuckatoo?

  • @jarradsutton8877
    @jarradsutton8877 Рік тому

    Those pakeha dudes didn't even try to pronounce te roparaha properly W⚓️rs

  • @Cam70868
    @Cam70868 Рік тому

    Are these aboriginal actors?

  • @toast47624
    @toast47624 Місяць тому

    Those poor settlers. First swindled out of there money then out of there lives. I knew before watching this that despite this they would be blamed. We will forever remember the truth!

  • @peterpan1435
    @peterpan1435 Рік тому

    NZ battles, not wars.

  • @jacobtaniamclardy9687
    @jacobtaniamclardy9687 10 місяців тому

    As always with these documentaries, there is never any support for the Maori owning land. They lived in small tribes, never farming or cultivating the lands. This documentary portrays the Maori as they were, wondering through the lands and killing those who they came across. From England to Europe, lands are farmed and cultivated, something that they did not see when they arrived in New Zealand. The main item the Maori had was weapons, the taiaha or the patu are among the few that they had.

    • @CalebRota-fe7gn
      @CalebRota-fe7gn 7 місяців тому

      so tell me how did they survive then

    • @echidna276
      @echidna276 7 місяців тому +2

      Māori lived off the land. The Wairau has multiple gardens and food storage sites across the whole valley. Most sites have now been flattened and used for housing, vineyards and so on. 'The main item' they had used was not taiaha or patu, they were more used for warfare, which didn't happen all the time. The common item was a sturdy stick, sharpened or not they used them for digging g a r d e n s, canals, storage pits, and other things. Not often used as a weapon but more as a multi use tool.
      It's the same thing with vikings. They weren't just blood hungry savages killing, r a ping and so on. Majority were farmers.

  • @kiwiprouddavids724
    @kiwiprouddavids724 6 місяців тому +2

    Maori are not indigenous , before you put this forward as fact you should do some research

    • @echidna276
      @echidna276 5 місяців тому

      Enlighten me.

    • @kiwiprouddavids724
      @kiwiprouddavids724 5 місяців тому +1

      @@echidna276 the moreore, do some research dude the Maori came from Hawaii and they concurred the people that were already here that had come from Samoa and Tonga in a previous migration.

    • @echidna276
      @echidna276 5 місяців тому

      Moriori are not indigenous to Aotearoa me Te Waipounamu, they are indigenous to Rekohu. Māori did not come from Hawai'i, they came from Hawaiki. Hawaiki being Tahiti, Rarotonga and the islands in that area. Moriori were not conquered by Māori in the early settlements, However Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama did raid and conquer them in the early 1800's. I ask you to do some research, dude.

    • @kiwiprouddavids724
      @kiwiprouddavids724 5 місяців тому

      @@echidna276 sorry but your ring I lived on the island where Maori came from in NZ , where the Cano they traveled from Hawaii landed. You don't know what you are talking about

    • @echidna276
      @echidna276 5 місяців тому

      @@kiwiprouddavids724 no sorry, you're wrong. I know what I am talking about. What island did you live on where Māori came from? Are you claiming all Māori came from there?

  • @anthonysherry2628
    @anthonysherry2628 7 місяців тому

    A terrible episode in this countries history. The pompous arrogance of the europeans. Shameful.

  • @promovidnz1754
    @promovidnz1754 8 місяців тому

    So it turns out it was a massacre by the Maori on surrendered prisoners. Yes nice spiritual vaules. Pretty much the way of hate, anger, violence - the dark side of the force.

  • @joelharding3312
    @joelharding3312 4 місяці тому

    Haha you except us the believe tero paraha peacfully removed survey pegs and peacefully burned down houses 😅😅 your docos are a joke.

  • @k9wirihana172
    @k9wirihana172 Рік тому +3

    Education is what happens after you leave school. I hope our children aren't indoctrinated as we were.Time to tell the truth.

  • @taraishot100
    @taraishot100 Рік тому

    Every time we drove past the wairau valley my dad would tell me the story

  • @mitchmcgreal1986
    @mitchmcgreal1986 Рік тому

    Arohanui xxx

  • @TinaShimmen
    @TinaShimmen Рік тому +3

    To catfishbillie
    @catfishbillie8819 you could include Maori under your claim of genocide as well. The Morori genocide was the mass murder and enslavement of the Moriori people, the indigenous ethnic group of the Chatham Islands, by members of the mainland New Zealand iwi (tribes) Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama from 1835 to the early 1860s. The invading tribes murdered around 300 Moriori and enslaved the remaining population, causing the population to drop from 1,700 in 1835 to only 100 in 1870.

    • @chastautoko7177
      @chastautoko7177 Рік тому

      We are the same people lady. Cmon, wake up. Reading too much books about my people written by the white man lol.

    • @rossyreincarnated3017
      @rossyreincarnated3017 Рік тому

      It's hard to know what to believe.

    • @chastautoko7177
      @chastautoko7177 Рік тому

      @@rossyreincarnated3017 it's hard to believe, if you never lived it.

    • @rossyreincarnated3017
      @rossyreincarnated3017 Рік тому

      @@chastautoko7177 and you've lived a life of oppression and enslavement?

    • @chastautoko7177
      @chastautoko7177 Рік тому

      @@rossyreincarnated3017 it's called the domino effect or the trickle down effect. But you privileged overstayers wouldn't know that. Clown.

  • @CavacavatheGreat
    @CavacavatheGreat Місяць тому

    10:20 OOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOW 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂HAHAHAHA

  • @InfinityBossSagarKaleOceanfFro
    @InfinityBossSagarKaleOceanfFro 9 місяців тому +1

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanuman

  • @InfinityBossSagarKaleOceanfFro
    @InfinityBossSagarKaleOceanfFro 9 місяців тому +1

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal:Asia