NZ Wars: Stories of Tauranga Moana | Documentary | RNZ
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
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[PG] The fifth chapter of this series, NZ Wars: Stories of Tauranga Moana recounts the events that unfolded in the Bay of Plenty and their far-reaching consequences for future generations.
Made with the support of NZ On Air.
Awesome being a part of this doco.
I injoy when we get the truthfully stories of our history...I used to live in mangatoi , driving through pyes pa always felt like odd piece of land to me...thankyou loved the doco
Superbly made, deep enough to give recognition of those tipuna who defied odds, and embraced human dignity, small act of kindness. May we learn and never forget courageous beings, fighting for peace.❤
I was learning about this in my social studies but now I can really depict and visualise what it was like
What a timely release coinciding with the memorial of the battle of Gate Pa.at Pukehinahina.❤
A must watch for all New Zealanders. Know the history, you may begin to understand and not prejudge. Remember, British Colonialism was been replicated all over their empire at these times.
This doco makes alot of sense have always got a funny vibe around some parts of Tauranga actually alot of parts. Awesome mahi in the doco
I delved into this local local history as an artist years ago, really be quite obsessed with it. One of my works was of Heni and Booth at Gate Pa. I also spent a day wandering around Te Ranga and painted a couple works on this area.
Heni had an interesting life, to say the least. It's worth reading the book, Jane's Story, if you're interested. I think her great grandson wrote it.
pity the narrator is so biased towards the maori in this documentary , surely Forbes should be neutral with her narration ?
How is she bias?
How is this at all bias? It shows the complex intersections between this event. Ko Te Arawa ahau, I am Te Arawa. My tupuna stood with colonial forces in this war. To be bias may be to paint us as having no accountability in this all. I know my tupuna stood with colonial forces out of fear of losing more land, however, as their descendants we stand in the dark history of our forebears. Now, look to the code of conduct, and the humanity shown within - It shows our humanness, and how even in the face of huge mamae, we are human, and we must treat each other as such. Regardless of the systemic inequity of the system, it shows how we must how Aroha, manaaki.
Everytime I see comments like this...
"Why are they so bias to the Mowees!?!"...
Automatically tells me the subject matter must of hit a nerve with the certain individual making the comment...
Hilarious!🤣
Pakehas are the ones invading.... That's the narritive mate.
Let's out it in perspective... Your logic means that the criminal should be portrayed as the victim??
I Love learning about our histories
THANK YOU FOR UPLOAD...❤❤❤
Thank you for telling our history blew me away kia ors
Beautifully done Mihi, Anabelle mā ❤❤
Masterpiece History Presentation
I would love to see this in movie form it has it all. With everyone’s (colonials, ministers, generals, iwi, hapu) perspective added for consideration.
I would love to hear the perspective of the people who are mana whenua of the land in which the battles take place.
Paraone Koikoi: Chief and leader of 200 Ngai Tamarawaho warriors in Gate Pa, should a bigger mention than no hint of existence in Pukehinahina or Te Ranga.
However, I enjoyed the korero of the various iwi and hapu.
It is said in this Documentary that there is little information on the Bush War follow up to the fighting at Gate Pa.....!. But there is a book written by Gilbert Mair who covered much of the fighting he writes in person giving day to day information on the Moari he led (on the side of the British) and the Kuhuhu Iwi force who were a Moari force Led by Moari fighting for their own reasons on the side of the British & why they did so is still under reported today,! Plus there were other British/colonial/Moari mixed forces acting as another group. Working with them hunting the likes of Te Kooti. Much of the book is devoted to fights with Te Kooti and those who joined him after the fighting in Wakato & Tauranga. The value of this book comes in first hand comments for Mair on what each Iwi were doing at the time. It covers things like Rewi Maniapoto comming to assess what was happening in person. Predicting the way things would go & successfully keeping the King County out of the fight with astute politics! Todays Politics have resulted in a more selected version of History that fails to record after Gate Pa most what happened & why from alternative views. Like the regular British troops got disbanned or sent elsewhere. This altered the Politics and some clever Moari leaders did a lot of good for their people by understanding that. Rotorua Moari friends requested I gave my copy Mair to them as they wished Te Arura Iwi to have a copy be kept safe. Which I did! If someone with a current copy should like to republish it I think it would cover the BIG gap in what was reported here & be of wide interest in NZ Things like view s of Moari who did not fight for either side. Mairs coments on Moari/European mixed married people which was wide spread even at that time. Many of the people killed by Te Kooti force when he returned to the North Island were of mixed race. It was of some interest that Gilbert Mair who ruthlessly hunted for Te Kooti seems to think Te Kooti was not guilty of the crimes he was deported for! He writes that he believes Te Kooti was a bit too free & wild with other mens wives & some petty crime in his own Moari community! So that many of his people own people were saying deport him too that British where happy frame him as terrorist to keep the peace! My family is European NZ & Moari. Their personal accounts are of mutual benifits as well as wars!
Nice but why do you keep misspelling Maori as Moari?
@@MusMasihe is racists because there is no moral justification for it.
Name of Gilbert Mair's book? >
@@JacksonMahara Reminiscences and Māori Stories (1923)
@@MusMasi I know, it hurts the eyes 😂
Interesting video
How can I gt the song ria sings
That report from the Victorian era English newspaper was surprising.
Why?
I love our land and our people.
The Maori made some very advanced fortifications and are great war strategists. Respect 💪💪💪
They had hundreds of years of practice because the maoris were attacking and killing each other long before the europeans arrived.
Te arawa have alot to answer for in the land wars kaupapa traitors. Te arawa are strong about there culture and history what a shame
Tauranga helped Nga Puhi which had hundreds of guns against Te Arawa, Te Arawa had 1 lousy gun.
@@reflectingtrees cool story bro. shame te arawa
@@hohepaparaone6567 it's not a cool story, my people got slaughtered by the tapu act Tauranga done to us and we are whānau, toto.
I am giving the reason why.
Arawa all the way; that's why we hold our heads up high.
Of course I wished it was otherwise; Māori never forgets.
I'd hold my head up if we had not lost all our land to
@@reflectingtrees you're a hundred years late I'm also te arawa my hapu is uenukukopako from tuhourangi. Ngapuhi come down and there was a lot of intertribal warfare but that was alot earlier before the British land wars. And is completely irrelevant to my comment I do understand te arawa had to honour the code of tumatauenga when letting over tribes crosss through their lands. But as determined the matamatua people were to aid there whanau against the British te arawa was just as determined to stop them as they sided with the British I've done my homework and know the kaupapa
Hope to see more documentaries about te kootis war and Tikokowarus war
Maketu is our region you come through our Rohe with your past with us we have grievance
Given Cameron’s defeat at Pukehinahina / Gate Pā and Henare Taratoa’s exemplary code of conduct for that battle, renaming Cameron Road Taratoa Road, would be a positive change. Or better still, Council could give the renaming opportunity & decision making to Tauranga Moana iwi.
im invited my fellow country pilipino to watch untold pacific story❤❤❤
And to this day it still happens,our government has alot to speak for
Another taonga in the series ... now at least we finally have a balanced POV to work with ... Everyone who made this possible can be justifiably proud of their achievement.
"It belongs to them, we're gonna GIVE IT BACK!" ~ Midnight Oil ~ Beds Are Burning
The Tai Rawhiti forces were actually heading to Waikato not Tauranga
It was an honour to see the premiere ki Tauranga Moana @Events Centre. One added korero on 'hauhau' We must remember Tauranga Māori had a close relationship to the Kiingitanga, other Māori had a relationship with the Crown, we must remember Māori in the bush campaign were penalised for their relationship to the Kiingitanga.
Is it time for the Kupapa forces to apologise to Iwi who stood firm against the colonial oppressor?
Maori ruthlessly wiped out the original inhabitants of New Zealand, the MORIORIS.that was pretty savage..the British never wiped out the Maoris but rather made peace with them in the end.Taranaki Māori invaders nearly exterminated the Morioris in the 1830s during the Musket Wars. This was the Moriori genocide, in which the Moriori were either murdered or enslaved by members of the Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama iwi, killing or displacing nearly 95% of the Moriori population.Learn your history.
@@TheBlueCream Was it Māori or Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama? Were Moriori indigenous to Aotearoa? They are not. They did migrate from east Polynesia. That myth was perpetuated by white 1800s scholars to justify the theft of land and resources by Pakeha. How did Ngati Mutunga get to the Moriori? A white ship captain took them there ? Who armed them with muskets? Illegal white arms dealers who lied later to avoid being hung.
They do not need to.
They got to there on a British ship
@@TheBlueCreamthe English did try to eradicate the Maori.
I think you should learn New Zealand history better instead of repeating garbage spoken by fools who want to make themselves sound better.
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Powerful stories from the vanquished.Justice and truth can’t be hidden in today’s political rhetoric ‘’We are one people.’
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I hate what the British did to my people that can never be forgiven or forgotten we still feel the pain to this day
what you did to yourselves was even worse...
@@nickc9404your own pakeha poisoned vax to their own including you is far far more worse
@@nickc9404 look at tauranga now pakeha made it far worse .but its ok indian boys are here to stay help the maori take over all the subdivisions beaches everywhere
You should not hold grudges. Always remember yes. But forgivness lightens the soul. The only way forward for this country is too forgive and work together to make it the best paradise on Earth.
@@michaelgrey7854 that’s you’re choose on how you want to be in life don’t preach you’re believes onto me
Aue💔
Great to watch, sad i understand the message.
How’s that even helping the pakeha after they tried to kill them says it all and who are the real savages.
The pirates, and Victorian eating mummies 😮
Yes the savages invaded the Maori land and got beaten n still got given a drink
Yes, savagely better then pakehas at ever aspect of being a "Being". 😂
Maori ruthlessly wiped out the original inhabitants of New Zealand, the MORIORIS.that was pretty savage..the British never wiped out the Maoris but rather made peace with them in the end.Taranaki Māori invaders nearly exterminated the Morioris in the 1830s during the Musket Wars. This was the Moriori genocide, in which the Moriori were either murdered or enslaved by members of the Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama iwi, killing or displacing nearly 95% of the Moriori population.Learn your history.
The British empire sought new lands due to over population and grim conditions including the famous "Great stink". And thus New Zealand was born. 👏🏾😂
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lets not forget hone heke great vid thanks. war sucks only one side of the story though I wish we as kiwis can just put our differences aside and be one and kick the governments arse divide and conquer is all they do
The Tairawhiti had tried to fight there way through Rotorua first after they were refused entry, and were defeated. And then decided to attack maketu. Would you let 700 former enemies march through your lands armed to the teeth? I wouldn’t
Small consultation but at least the comments are open. For now.
who do you think they should consult?
@@tommcg7564 😂you’ve got me. I meant consolation but I think you know that you naughty boy.
Only 160 years ago 😞 Least we Forget.
10:35 🙏🏻🔥🔥🔥
This should be taught in all high schools.
Our Iwi made a tactical Error by not retreating to their Gunfighter Pa they had already built and waited 4 a Fight the enemy wanted Revenge and would have attacked inflict casualties retreat to another Modern Pa and so on
Duncan Cameron got fkn smoked hahaha
Is that why the beach is tapu
My 3x great gandfather served in the wars from 1859.
The story tellers weren't there.
Korero pono me te korero mana
whakatapua te hepetua o te rangi ngangapare waimere
Beautiful production to tell our story. Nga mihi to production and crew, great mahi.
Facinating stories of our past but time to move on. Dont be a victum!
Produced long ago, why the wait to view?
many of us in NZ watched this long ago. Good that it's on YT so that people who missed it can now see it.
Maori women would give water to dying British soldiers not out of compassion...they were sent to take any ammunition or weapons clothes off the dying soldiers..very cunning, can we not change history but just speak the truth ?
Xox xox xo
Thank you for upload
They still taking possession of whenua there in ways we don't want to talk about.
yea we do y dont u tell me about it?
Maori ruthlessly wiped out the original inhabitants of New Zealand, the MORIORIS.that was pretty savage..the British never wiped out the Maoris but rather made peace with them in the end.Taranaki Māori invaders nearly exterminated the Morioris in the 1830s during the Musket Wars. This was the Moriori genocide, in which the Moriori were either murdered or enslaved by members of the Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama iwi, killing or displacing nearly 95% of the Moriori population.Learn your history.
History is written by those who are victorious.
The Victorious are the ones with the most advanced weapons and military.
The truth is slowly being set free
@@iammattbarker yep, my people was under British rule for hundreds of years. The truth came out on how we was treated by them, but my grandfather always said "history is written by the victorious"
@@iammattbarker I've come to understand the power of the British, they ruled the seas and over 60 countries today celebrate independence from the British empire. They were so powerful for the time being able to rule land and kingdoms far from their home.
it is written by however is around to research and write it.
@@ibrahem330 Who are your people?
BRILLIANT
It's like police 10 7 but wayy back in the day
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They just got up and left. I love you so very much
NEW ZEALAND!!!
Is a business name , and the flag is a pirate flag , , people's in a building named government and police brittish royals are maritime admiralty policies, they policy the sea ,
They not land owners , , it about conquer the world , one world order planned 1779, executed 1840s , they have treasoned magna Carter, brittish, flag was chopped down three times , treasoned was over they all had to go all brittish , , but they weren't going too , , they broken the magna Carter law and the bible laws, , yep they had laws to comply and obey , and now we are manipulated and brainwash into their policies maritime admiralty policies, 😮 oh no , crooks soliciting CESTEI QUI VEI
And every maori alive today is the result of the trade and the musket wars, let's not start by saying any of these people in the past are any different. It's the playing on history for one's own myths that people would like to move past.@@Philly-lq6zr
Zealand is in Netherlands. Absolutely irrelevant name
@@tommcg7564 New Zealand is a name that relates to the history of how 80% of the population came to be in NZ. If you want history or the past to be respected then why call history for 80% of the population irrelevant? The existing maori name is a made up one, recently, so why would you say the past is irrelevant, but only in particular cases?
@@antonyjh1234 the Pacific, Asian, Indian, African, Middle Eastern dont affiliate with Zealand so Im not sure whether you're 80% figure is accurate. Actually, how many Pakeha are Dutch? We are a Pacific nation, if you want to live in Europe, suggest you migrate there.
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This is Māori land , not belong to white British!
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The storm is brewing☠️
Keep the hate flowing RNZ, the hate must flow.
RNZ is not at fault you should blame the crown and grey and cameron
@@Ruakituri I can't blame RNZ for creating division or pandering to a market?
@@antonyjh1234 you cannot blame rnz for the reaction a person has to their history
you are the one doing that
@@MusMasi The propaganda is working then.
he kōrero pono, he kōrero mana.
I love you so very much I love you so very much I love you so very much
Know who u R
oosh tauranga moana
At a time when after labour 6 years of attempting to separate us all through stealth , lies and reverse apartheid (im maori) perhaps it would help tp let things lie . Wata you think ???.😮
No way. Let everyone learn the REAL history of Māori, and not the rubbish our parents and grandparents were taught in schools
Thank you for replying. You may well be right , but to replace rubbish we were taught , in fact we were taught nothing. But to it with history as told by Willie Jackson and the like is about the same . 😮
Seperate by stealth aye, or try to provide the opportunity for equity? We have gone back to the trust us we are all equal😂😂
I'm Pakeha, my ancestors arrived in Waitemata in 1844.
We should have been taught the truth in schools, not forced to do Bible Studies on Friday mornings.
The country needs to hear the truth.
Before we can move forward we need to look back...
Every person in this country and the world today needs to understand the concept of '6th generation warfare'. This is why they're blind to the attack. Because they have no way to conceptualize it.
People need to get over themselves
Fuckup
KA WHAWHAI TONU MATOU MO AKE AKE AKE
just like you wiped out the Morioris..war war killing...Maori ruthlessly wiped out the original inhabitants of New Zealand, the MORIORIS.that was pretty savage..the British never wiped out the Maoris but rather made peace with them in the end.Taranaki Māori invaders nearly exterminated the Morioris in the 1830s during the Musket Wars. This was the Moriori genocide, in which the Moriori were either murdered or enslaved by members of the Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama iwi, killing or displacing nearly 95% of the Moriori population.Learn your history.
So where are my french/native rellies.....we fought at gate pa while the maori watched us and laughed thinking we would lose. We won. My GG an ex royal artillery soldier provided communications for our little tribe about 198 men and one woman. He married into Te Arawa.
i figure maori were the first to out strategise heavy artillery with trenches n earthworks...taught em how to fight ww1
I love you so very much I love you so very much
This is extremely one sided in it's lensing. Today the British don't remember or commemorate this small war at all.
Theres nothing good to tell about what the british did, what do you suggest they say?
This isn't small to my people......
@@tommcg7564 Nothing good? What world are you living in?
@@jeanettedevlin3312 context of the battle of Gate Pā and stealing Māori land and resources. What positive facts could you say?
@@tommcg7564 No positive aspects. Although actual battles against the colonial oppressor do help to bind a subjugated peoples identity and mana. The Irish, also, are shaped by the (resistance to) old Plantation and Penal laws of the 17th Century, even today.
The best part of this history is the chivalry shown by the Maori, their courage and determination to hold off the invaders (as any patriot would and should do).
The worst part, it still seeks to divide what is supposed to be a united country by ingraining the victim mentality into the minds of minorities.
Many people of various ethnicities, race and creeds have since immigrated (most with less than what the natural born New Zealanders have) to New Zealand and have made prosperous lives for themselves and their families.
Why are the Maori's still stuck? This is the real question.
So when are we going to see the history told of the people here before Maori? the history of Celtic's? and what happened to them, the history of the ancient chinese ships thought to be here when Taupo erupted, which was before Maori?, So sick of the rest of known NZ history being kept quiet, ignored,,
The maaori have connections with China
@@abrahamreti1595 so do Maori,we are all related by dna, but im talking about before them, talking about the celtic, and there is even evidence of spanish being here,,, all hidden, all ignored,, our present version of history is a crock.
The Chinese landed here in the 15th century. The Celtics are just a myth. Humans come from the same race. Human.
What's your best evidence of Celtic people here?
@@abrahamreti1595 meth connections
interesting how maori commerce was thriving due to pakeha markets in auckland and nsw, was colonization not as bad as the confused woke left claim?
LOL! ummm no colonization and the trade between maori and pakeha were 2 very different things.
so true and the bloodshed between Maori killing raping and slaves stoped by whites
Odd response to a video about confescated land.
@@wholesomemaori no colonisation and and trade wuld nt exist in any meaningful way
@@iammattbarker no it was mentioned in the video
Lions vs Hyenas
Humans vs Humans.
The hyenas being the British 😂 as they had to fight in Numbers to take the lion
@@dub_h7900 yes indeed but they still failed cause we still here
Can you do a documentary like this on the genocide and enslavement of the Morori by the Māori? But not written with a victimhood mentality.
Maori killed and ate them as they ate enemy dead and were known as cannibles
This has been proven false. The publishers of the account have long since apologised.
@@iammattbarker No. You are intentionally lying. In 1835, two Māori tribes (Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama) committed the atrocity, and the only people who deny it happened are racist liars.
@@brucesmith1508 That is correct. There were graves marked with one or two crosses. Two meant that they had been cooked and eaten.
@@logicalanswer3529That's interesting
TV rubbish.
yet here you are
Another racist pakeha that doesn't want to admit the wrongs of his Ancestors
Rubbish you reckon,yet you still watch 😂
Shussh pakeha
Yawn
Myself.. Hori, even I can see this is not even half truths & is only one side of a story..
You should be ashamed, know you will be judged in the afterlife for divided a nation based upon race... as in, to be born upon this land NZ is to be called a Kiwi & Kiwi are iwi.. End of story.
Doesn't mean we just forget about it for so long the white man's side has been told its only recently the maori side of this history is being shared in this sort of way I think its a good thing yeah the battle scenes are abit one sided that's probably the only problem I see tho
Waiting on the doco about the north island maori that butchered and cannibalized the peaceful kaiapoi maori .
Also the genocide of the Chatham island people by genocidal north island maori.
Wasn't all " pakeha "
And there it is. The ignorant trying to justify what the murderous colonists did, by deflecting to native instances.
Seen this time and time again through history from the americas, to asia, to australia and the pacific.
Get rid of your racist colonial mentality "jim"
Why wait? Why not make your own Documentary?
Its not a competition and lets be real europe started 2 world worlds within a generation of each other.
Maori ruthlessly wiped out the original inhabitants of New Zealand, the MORIORIS.that was pretty savage..the British never wiped out the Maoris but rather made peace with them in the end.Taranaki Māori invaders nearly exterminated the Morioris in the 1830s during the Musket Wars. This was the Moriori genocide, in which the Moriori were either murdered or enslaved by members of the Ngāti Mutunga and Ngāti Tama iwi, killing or displacing nearly 95% of the Moriori population.Learn your history.
@@TheBlueCream exactly, my maori ancestors had a great relationship with the British.
Thet Taranaki maori were a different issue.
Woke anti pakeha. Joanne Forbes is biased.
Maoris committed genocide on others.
Not all iwi. Only 1 iwi went to the Solomons. Compared to all the genocide in Africa, India America nth South, Vietnam, Syria. Fuuu that's millions.& still repression goes on today.
@@reiolite2354and the chatams surely? The treatment of the moriori is horrific
Here we go lol
English committed genocide all around the world India Australia Canada America Africa Scotland Ireland all Maori wanted was their own land England wanted the world
@@notmyrealname7738 Maori slaughtered the Moriori, they love to be the victims though.
Mostly lies.
Share your story , about the history , you know about one world order, 1840s planned 1779, hitler knew about it 100 years later , and now putin ,
YOU NEED TO DEFINE WHAT MOSTLY LIES MEANS , , WAS IT ALL FAKE KILLINGS OR THE WEATHER WAS FAKE EVERYONE WENT HOME LIGHT FIRE PUT FEET UP RELAXED , WAS THE HISTORY BEING TOLD FAKE , FIND OUT WHAT GOVERNMENTS MEANS I SEE WHAT IS LIES , , 😮
Proof? or just trust me bro?
@@MusMasi its just a catchy thing for him to say. No substance, just like this govt
Whatever keha
Change your name "kiwi" is a Maori word by the way lol😅 and that ain't no lie neither