One thing I like: They're actually using their superhero names. Like, very few shows do that anymore. Stripesy consistently refered to them by their hero names when he could just as easily call them by their real names.
@@platypus6810 it is (but it's the first episode)......but it sure as hell better than hearing "OLIVER, BARRY, KARA!" right as they are fighting in open public...
Frogo In this scene its warranted though. We need to know the names of all the people he mentioned for later on and their more obscure so less people will know about them off the bat through recognition
Wellllll in all fairness for this particular instance a name exposition character is actually warranted since a LOT of these guys are pretty old school/obscure
@@ryanbarefoot7194 that does not mean that the makers of the show need to spoon feed the audience. These sort of shows repeatedly insult their fans by pointing out how stupid and/or incapable of doing research they are. A lot of the fans don’t even realize it!
@@HabitualJoker Yeahhh you shouldn’t have to do research except for finding easter eggs. Like i said there are timew where it’s acceptable. People will on average not know who these characters are. So yes it makes sense to point out the name of each character. Its not spoon feeding, its a reasonable assumption and acting on it comsidering these names are gonna be important later on.
wildcat is severely outgunned in most situations, dude is one of the best fighters in the dc universe, but facing brainwave icicle the wizard solomon grundy is asking a bit much...at least arrow had a long dist weapon and tech... wildcat must of been a bad ass
I’m a big fan of any superhero who has literally nothing but their fists. The original Atom was like that. Just a short guy who could really throw a punch.
I hope they do better than that disrespect version in Flash, I'm disappointed the the arrowverse for not using him as a season long antagonist/or anti hero. He's just as if not more powerful then the flash.
Love that you clearly see the shade participating in this battle but the only scene of him is brief and just a show of his powers nothing more, can't wait for him next season.
I kept screaming at the screen for the more powerful JSA members to show. Where’s Dr Fate? Spectre? Johnny Thunder? Where was Alan Scott? Did he get beaten by Grundy? If so does that mean Jade and Obsidian won’t appear? I was a huge fan of the Golden Age heroes so this scene nearly had me in tears.
Alan Scott was there, the green fire is from him. Johnny Thunder died and the pen is going to someone else in season 2, Jade will be in season 2 and Geoff Johns confirmed Obsidian will show up, but who knows when. I have no idea what happened to Fate and Spectre.
He's my favorite JSA member. Sad he hasn't gotten much exposure. Same with Johnny Thunder. I like Jakeem but I love Johnny and I hope he comes back in the comics.
This was one hell of an opening to the show I would have loved to see The Flash, Green lantern and Dr Fate here too, but I guess there wasn't really a way to fit them in
0:49 looking back now with what we know from season 2 this hits different. We thought Doctor Midnite was killed by The Shade but he was actually trapped in the Shadow Realm as shown in season 2 when Beth was able to communicate with him through his glasses
I thought this scene was dope AF! One thing I didn't like was how outclassed the Justice Society of America was. The Injustice society has some heavy hitters, but so does the JSA! Green Lantern, Flash, Dr. Fate, Hawkman, etc. And I want to see the whole fight! I want to see what happened with Sandman, Wildcat, and Dr. Midnight. I still like the scene, I just don't believe it would be that one sided.
Sandman got killed by icicle, Dr. Mid-Nite got captured by The Shade, and Wildcat most likely got launched by brainwave or Grundy . But yeah they gotta release the whole fight!!
It's explained by starman that killing bruce gordon caused a rift between them and things weren't the same. And they weren't what they use to be after it happened. Basically the morale of the JSA died with bruce gordon.
Well I know that they're going to do more with the original JSA because Joel McHale is listed for 13 episodes, but hot damn that opening fight was awesome. You know I wonder if Starman really was Courtney's father now.
I don't think DC will do the OG storyline of Courtney biological father where he was the leader of a gang. My theory is they'll have Starman as her biological father Pat felt guilty of not keeping Courtney's father safe so he went n told Courtney's mom he ended falling in love with her.
@@Krypton853 Story wise I don't think Starman being Courtney's father fits, but on a comical level I can see that being something Joel McHale would want. I can see him negotiating for that like okay my character dies but totally roasts his sidekick in his last moments, but then the sidekick gets my girl and is a better father than me. Total middle finger to me, big smiles.
I’m so sad that this show was cancelled, imagine more flashbacks like this with doctor fate, hawkman and hawkgirl and sandman! It would’ve been so awesome, but I have faith in James Gunn.
Like I’m gonna believe none of the JSA survived. Batman would wipe the floor with all of them, how could an entire team lose? Especially with members like Flash, Green Lantern, Dr. Fate, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, etc.
With season 2 coming I really hope a few of them are revealed to be alive and in hiding somewhere. It did say Shade betrayed them and he is in season 2, maybe he transported a couple of them somewhere? I also hope we see Sandy Hawkins, we know the original Sandman is dead because his body was by the stairs, but Sandman is personally my favorite JSA member and even just seeing his legacy (Sandy) would be cool.
Also we know Brainwave killed Johnny Thunder, Hawkman, and Hawkgirl, apparently Pat said this ( I don't remember him saying that but it was confirmed by some people on UA-cam). I believe Icicle killed Sandman. I doubt Doctor Fate died but if he did it would have to be a combined effort of all the ISA. Same with Green Lantern and Flash. However I believe Green Lantern and Flash are alive. Jennie said in episode 2 that her father left the ring for her, how could he do this if he died fighting the ISA? I think he survived and left the ring for her. Now we know however that Jennie absorbs the energy without a ring, so maybe Alan can come out of hiding and get the ring. Maybe, since we don't know where Todd (Obsidian) is, Alan could have Todd with him? Jay is almost definitely alive, he's gonna be in episode 9 played by John Wesley Shipp. Where he's been this whole time? Who knows. Starman is alive, or at least as far as we know he is. Doctor Mid-Nite is alive, I know it. In the first episode and episode 3 (S2), the AI on the goggles didn't sound like an AI. It sounded like a real human being, and he didn't know who Beth was. Shade probably transported him somewhere through the shadow realm instead of killing him. Hourman is dead, Grundy killed him. I prefer Rex but Rick will carry on his legacy. Wildcat has nine lives. I think he got hit out of the roof by Grundy. We dot even know for sure if he died as we was clearly alive when Pat went down to see if he was ok. Pat left him there for some reason but even if he died, like I said, he has nine lives. Hawkman and Hawkgirl definitely died imo, though I think they will definitely reincarnate. I dont think will see them anytime soon though. I wonder if Atom (Al Pratt) was ever on the team, if he was he probably died before the picture was taken, or he left. If he simply left he can join the new team, if he died they can introduce his legacy, Atom Smasher. I also wonder if we will see Spectre show up ever, since Eclipso is the main villain this season. If he doesn't show up, Doctor Fate will. There's no way the current team can fight Eclipso by themselves.
@@dakotatrue12 damn right on the money, shade saved doctor midnight. the flash showed up in a flashback played by the og from the flash series, he didnt want to be involved with the jsa and probably left at the heat of battle into the speed force since the actor is planned to return. starman is definitely alive in present day. and i think at the very least doctor fate and spectre are around
The villains on this show are way more interesting than most of the other dc shows,feels way more epic than those god awful crossovers the flash used to do with other shows,that and they really double down on the fact that the isa and jsa are opposing enemies,that and they do a really good job fleshing out both sides!
How the hell you just gonna have Wildcat get thrown out a window as his big spotlight? The dude is a totally underrated bad ass and an OG and they did him real dirty.
At 2:03 it clearly shows icicle was trapped by Alan Scott in a green bubble or something because you see that green flame surrounding him, so either he got out killed Alan and that's how he was able to shoot the icicle or he was coming in through a wall. I don't know...
still doesn’t make sense how injustice society won and killed all of them as of now JSA has more members and more powerful ones too but it was for plot
RIP Sandman. Died in smallville in the first episode, was already dead by the time Legends of tomorrow meet the JSA, and now dead in the opening scene of Stargirl. Sandman can not catch a break
We saw flash’s hat and I’m assuming icicle was fighting green lantern before he shot the icicle because if you slow it down you can see him Breaking through his constructs
A tiny little side note : Sylvester was never Starman. That was Ted Knight and later Jack Knight. One of Ted´s son´s. Couirney get´s the staff from Jack Knight and when that happen. Courtney becomes official Stargirl. Sylvester Pemerton was the first Star-Spangled Kid ! Coutney was the second Star-Spangled Kid !
Flash and Green Lantern are probably alive- just somewhere else. It’s comic based- If there’s no body, they aren’t dead. And I’m almost CERTAIN Dr. Fate is alive. He’s way too powerful.
@@solvemproblerstudios5889 true :) Also Spectre. I mean he lives on completely different plane of existance and can interact with people only to certain circumstances. He is also immortal.
Travis Touchdown Potentially- Although I fear that Spectre didn’t exist on this version of the team. There was only one Spectre for the entire Multiverse in the TV versions, and considering Stargirl is Arrowverse Earth 2, it would be weird if there was another Spectre- but possible, it could be that there’s one just for Earth 2 now that the new multiverse was formed.
Can someone make a version of this without the infamous DC "3 pairs of sunglasses" filter on it ? My TV is about to break, having to systematically push the brightness to the roof to see anything.
While the Legends of Tomorrow JSA that we saw is cool, its good ti see we're getting another iteration of it in an alternate Earth in the Arrowverse; one with a bit more time spent on it instead of a few cameos. Strange to think that we now know of two different Rex Tylers and two different Stargirls.
The JSA, besides Obsidian, was kinda a joke in Legends. They worked for the story being told there, but here we get a much more comic accurate, and way more badass version. The casting was also not very good. Why was Mid-Nite black? Why was Stargirl in the 1940s? She is a modern character, a legacy, not an original that fought in World War 2. Why was Hourman costume so bad? Same with Doctor Mid-Nite. The theme was great and Obsidians costume and powers were great, other than that it was pretty mediocre. You can see the difference in quality by watching this show and watching the JSA arc in legends. Even the Smallville JSA was better than the Legends version. And I'm not hating, I loved Legends season 2. I'm just pointing out that they could've put way more work into it. The best thing that came out of it was the theme.
It was revealed in season 2 the JSA had killed Eclipso’s host Bruce Gordon and that decision caused the JSA to split up, they only regrouped for this fight and weren’t acting as a team which caused there downfall.
There's no way Sportsmaster and Tigress are normal humans if they can contend with Hourman. Hourman defeated Grundy. Two different characters but exact same powers. Edit: well, let me reword. They can contend with him, but the fact that Tigress took like two direct hits if I recall and she was still standing. She should've been smashed to death, that or at least on the ground across the room.
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One thing I like: They're actually using their superhero names. Like, very few shows do that anymore. Stripesy consistently refered to them by their hero names when he could just as easily call them by their real names.
Kind of annoying that he was constantly using the power of name exposition though
@@platypus6810 it is (but it's the first episode)......but it sure as hell better than hearing "OLIVER, BARRY, KARA!" right as they are fighting in open public...
What's weird is that Stripsey doesn't age from then to the time Courtney grows up. His power must be being Paul Rudd.
@@commandercaptain4664 or maybe they are members of an immortal alien species
Frogo In this scene its warranted though. We need to know the names of all the people he mentioned for later on and their more obscure so less people will know about them off the bat through recognition
"Wildcat."
"Doctor Midnight!"
"Hourman!"
"Starman!"
"I TOLD YOU TO WAIT IN THE CAR, NAME EXPOSITION LAD"
"Popeye!"
"Phoenix!"
"Slater!"
"Mendoza!"
"Stimpy!"
"Hey Moe!"
"Kaneda!"
"Tetsuo!"
"Ranmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!"
"REEEEEYYYYYYYYYYYYY!"
Ilana Glazer: Who yells?
Wellllll in all fairness for this particular instance a name exposition character is actually warranted since a LOT of these guys are pretty old school/obscure
Lmfao
@@ryanbarefoot7194 that does not mean that the makers of the show need to spoon feed the audience. These sort of shows repeatedly insult their fans by pointing out how stupid and/or incapable of doing research they are. A lot of the fans don’t even realize it!
@@HabitualJoker Yeahhh you shouldn’t have to do research except for finding easter eggs. Like i said there are timew where it’s acceptable. People will on average not know who these characters are. So yes it makes sense to point out the name of each character. Its not spoon feeding, its a reasonable assumption and acting on it comsidering these names are gonna be important later on.
The simple fact that starman took on all of them AND NEARLY WON really shows how serious starmans temporary plot armor really was.
How is it plot armor?
I want to know how Fate, The Flash, and GL (Alan Scott) were defeated/killed.
@@mellogaming1334 sneak attack?
@@mellogaming1334 They probably used a wooden splinter to kill Green Lantern.
Deondre Dixon In smallville, dr.fate was killed by icicle who stabbed him from the back
The green flames! Alan Scott the original Green Lantern. Tried to spot what exactly shot out of the roof!?
When I saw the green flames I knew there was only one person it could be :)
He was likely fighting icicle cuz before he stabs starman he breaks out of a green construct
Xman99 good catch bro
@@xManAvenger fuck, I didn't even think about that. But I weren't aware of the green flames though...
This opening scene was great. I want to see more JSA flashbacks, especially one with Dr. Fate.
Yeah me too
I mean Dr Fate is pretty major character in DC, but he hasn't got much screen time in live action ;)
beside few Smallville episodes
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@Drew Cowan Yeah, that part wasn't shown in this he didn't edited it in.
Dr. Fate too op.
So this is what Jeff winger became after community
The superhero timeline!
Troys prowler
You remember that daydream Jeff has where he flew like a Superhero? There ya go
Pat: (Hands Stargirl one of Jay Garrick’s first broken helmet wing signed.)
Courtney: classic wing.
Pat: I feel like there’s something missing.
The JSA really Britta'd that battle.
wildcat is severely outgunned in most situations, dude is one of the best fighters in the dc universe, but facing brainwave icicle the wizard solomon grundy is asking a bit much...at least arrow had a long dist weapon and tech... wildcat must of been a bad ass
I’m a big fan of any superhero who has literally nothing but their fists. The original Atom was like that. Just a short guy who could really throw a punch.
Paul Steve but wasn’t his punches atomic?
TheDarkarrow7 later yea but originally he had no powers and was just a tough guy.
Wildcats only real power is being a tough sumbitch that doesn’t stop fighting
@@chancellorpalpatine4035 I can do this all day.
Starman reminds me of classic Captain America.
Kinda looks like Captain Battle
Golden age superhero, they were very patriotic
If Captain America was a dick to Bucky.
The black hand grabbing Dr. Mid Nite could be The Shade
Or Shadow Thief possibly.
true blue no definitely shade
@@gabrielsouto6031 You are right it is Shade. I had not seen the episode where Shade was confirmed as a member of the Injustice Society.
That was my thought
I hope they do better than that disrespect version in Flash, I'm disappointed the the arrowverse for not using him as a season long antagonist/or anti hero. He's just as if not more powerful then the flash.
Love that you clearly see the shade participating in this battle but the only scene of him is brief and just a show of his powers nothing more, can't wait for him next season.
I kept screaming at the screen for the more powerful JSA members to show. Where’s Dr Fate? Spectre? Johnny Thunder? Where was Alan Scott? Did he get beaten by Grundy? If so does that mean Jade and Obsidian won’t appear? I was a huge fan of the Golden Age heroes so this scene nearly had me in tears.
Rampant 2k On the bright side the Hawks reincarnate.
Alan Scott was there, the green fire is from him.
Johnny Thunder died and the pen is going to someone else in season 2, Jade will be in season 2 and Geoff Johns confirmed Obsidian will show up, but who knows when.
I have no idea what happened to Fate and Spectre.
@@dakotatrue12 uhhh fate can't die man neither can spectre
Mmmmmmm.. excuse me, but, Johnny Thunder one of the most powerful JSA members? He was also written to be no more than a comedic relief in the comics.
@@jotacarpio isn't johnny thunder just a guy?it's the thunderblot that's powerful
Seeing this for the first time watching the show made me think this show truly will be BADASS.
And I was right.
see when i first saw this i was like "This is so good to be THE CW network". Then i found out it was being produced by DC network
Off topic but can i ask what timeline does this events occurred in stargirl? 2019-2020? 2000's? 1990's?
Now its being being produced by the cw 😅
@@conboy66 go stargirlpod in instagram they explained everything that will occur when it moves to cw.
@@lilysteffenford1719 Present day
@@MedalionDS9 ok thank youuu
2:27 Hey, Sandman! Nobody mentions him.
Mystery Theatre was great
He's my favorite JSA member. Sad he hasn't gotten much exposure. Same with Johnny Thunder. I like Jakeem but I love Johnny and I hope he comes back in the comics.
If the Legion of Doom ever make it to the big screen. They gotta lot to live up to against the ISA. Like they massacred everyone this night.
2:26 Jay Garricks Helmet & Wesley dodds aka the sandman is laying behind it on the stairs.
Must have been hard for Stripesy try to help the superheroes , it’s so honor for Stripesy to join the justice society of America, he’s honored
Joel is amazing and perfect Starman....
Silvia Ramirez: TRUE!!
This was one hell of an opening to the show
I would have loved to see The Flash, Green lantern and Dr Fate here too, but I guess there wasn't really a way to fit them in
JSA would have won with those additions
2:26 Jay Garrick's Helmet
Jay's helmet looks like the one in the comic
Sandman is also dead on the floor. One of the first live action versions
@@thelastsith2706 yeah
@@thelastsith2706 wait isn't there one in Smallville
@@xhyre179 Yeah, killed by Icicle Jr.
0:49 looking back now with what we know from season 2 this hits different. We thought Doctor Midnite was killed by The Shade but he was actually trapped in the Shadow Realm as shown in season 2 when Beth was able to communicate with him through his glasses
As far as opening scenes go this was up there with the greats
Facts but we haven’t seen much cool action scenes since
So you know that one scene you watch over and over because it was spectacular? This scene is one of those. Kinda like the BvS warehouse
This show is really good so far!!
I thought this scene was dope AF! One thing I didn't like was how outclassed the Justice Society of America was. The Injustice society has some heavy hitters, but so does the JSA! Green Lantern, Flash, Dr. Fate, Hawkman, etc. And I want to see the whole fight! I want to see what happened with Sandman, Wildcat, and Dr. Midnight. I still like the scene, I just don't believe it would be that one sided.
Sandman got killed by icicle, Dr. Mid-Nite got captured by The Shade, and Wildcat most likely got launched by brainwave or Grundy . But yeah they gotta release the whole fight!!
It was probably a sneak attack. The JSA were overwhelmed before they could assemble.
Well, Alan did his stuff all over the place, if the green fire is any indicarion
It's explained by starman that killing bruce gordon caused a rift between them and things weren't the same. And they weren't what they use to be after it happened. Basically the morale of the JSA died with bruce gordon.
Ted Grant never gets any respect. Dude is a total badass yet the writers keep making him a punching bag.
Well I know that they're going to do more with the original JSA because Joel McHale is listed for 13 episodes, but hot damn that opening fight was awesome. You know I wonder if Starman really was Courtney's father now.
I don't think DC will do the OG storyline of Courtney biological father where he was the leader of a gang. My theory is they'll have Starman as her biological father Pat felt guilty of not keeping Courtney's father safe so he went n told Courtney's mom he ended falling in love with her.
Joel also did Johnny cage in Mk Legends Scorpion revenge
@@Krypton853 Story wise I don't think Starman being Courtney's father fits, but on a comical level I can see that being something Joel McHale would want. I can see him negotiating for that like okay my character dies but totally roasts his sidekick in his last moments, but then the sidekick gets my girl and is a better father than me. Total middle finger to me, big smiles.
Just watched episode 2 he isn't in it
@@johnduckworth3866 I have a question if the bully is Brainwave son wouldn't he have power's to?
Wonder if Zatara will be in this series because if he is his daughter Zatanna could make an appearance.
I think the wizard who say "Welcome to the show" is Zatara
@@tom.8709 no, it's Wizard.
@@geetargato
Lol, what a redundant name
Julian Seguin it was the 40s, they didn’t have to try too hard
@@julianseguin2748 His name in the comics is William I. Zard
I’m so sad that this show was cancelled, imagine more flashbacks like this with doctor fate, hawkman and hawkgirl and sandman! It would’ve been so awesome, but I have faith in James Gunn.
The cheesesness of everyone saying their superhero names is awesome
Like I’m gonna believe none of the JSA survived. Batman would wipe the floor with all of them, how could an entire team lose? Especially with members like Flash, Green Lantern, Dr. Fate, Hawkman, Hawkgirl, etc.
With season 2 coming I really hope a few of them are revealed to be alive and in hiding somewhere. It did say Shade betrayed them and he is in season 2, maybe he transported a couple of them somewhere? I also hope we see Sandy Hawkins, we know the original Sandman is dead because his body was by the stairs, but Sandman is personally my favorite JSA member and even just seeing his legacy (Sandy) would be cool.
Also we know Brainwave killed Johnny Thunder, Hawkman, and Hawkgirl, apparently Pat said this ( I don't remember him saying that but it was confirmed by some people on UA-cam). I believe Icicle killed Sandman. I doubt Doctor Fate died but if he did it would have to be a combined effort of all the ISA. Same with Green Lantern and Flash. However I believe Green Lantern and Flash are alive.
Jennie said in episode 2 that her father left the ring for her, how could he do this if he died fighting the ISA? I think he survived and left the ring for her. Now we know however that Jennie absorbs the energy without a ring, so maybe Alan can come out of hiding and get the ring. Maybe, since we don't know where Todd (Obsidian) is, Alan could have Todd with him?
Jay is almost definitely alive, he's gonna be in episode 9 played by John Wesley Shipp. Where he's been this whole time? Who knows.
Starman is alive, or at least as far as we know he is.
Doctor Mid-Nite is alive, I know it. In the first episode and episode 3 (S2), the AI on the goggles didn't sound like an AI. It sounded like a real human being, and he didn't know who Beth was. Shade probably transported him somewhere through the shadow realm instead of killing him.
Hourman is dead, Grundy killed him. I prefer Rex but Rick will carry on his legacy.
Wildcat has nine lives. I think he got hit out of the roof by Grundy. We dot even know for sure if he died as we was clearly alive when Pat went down to see if he was ok. Pat left him there for some reason but even if he died, like I said, he has nine lives.
Hawkman and Hawkgirl definitely died imo, though I think they will definitely reincarnate. I dont think will see them anytime soon though.
I wonder if Atom (Al Pratt) was ever on the team, if he was he probably died before the picture was taken, or he left. If he simply left he can join the new team, if he died they can introduce his legacy, Atom Smasher.
I also wonder if we will see Spectre show up ever, since Eclipso is the main villain this season. If he doesn't show up, Doctor Fate will. There's no way the current team can fight Eclipso by themselves.
@@dakotatrue12 damn right on the money, shade saved doctor midnight. the flash showed up in a flashback played by the og from the flash series, he didnt want to be involved with the jsa and probably left at the heat of battle into the speed force since the actor is planned to return. starman is definitely alive in present day. and i think at the very least doctor fate and spectre are around
Batman wouldn’t wipe the floor with any of them
@@dakotatrue12 Fate did die
Effects are good for a tv show
DC Universe made shows have higher budget than CW shows
@@MedalionDS9 More cinematic too, which is why I worry about Stargirl's 2nd season move to CW.
And that ladies and gentlemen is how you start a tv show!
Action
Great effects
And loyalty to the source material
The villains on this show are way more interesting than most of the other dc shows,feels way more epic than those god awful crossovers the flash used to do with other shows,that and they really double down on the fact that the isa and jsa are opposing enemies,that and they do a really good job fleshing out both sides!
They were an organized team but in season 2 it really shows how they were a divided team, and thats what got most of them killed
It’s so weird to see Joe McHale doing superhero without thinking about Jeff’s sarcasm
Abed would love to see this if he ever cross into our timeline
What’s a good superpower for Abed?
Friend keeps making Community Jokes every time he sees Starman
2:27 there’s Sandman
Here after they announuced John Wesley Shipp is returning in Stargirl as Jay Garrick. Notice there was no body here......
Only his helmet with a little of ice.
but a helmet covered in ice probably because he was disintegrated
Brainwave is gonna be like Clifford devoe, except written better.
Not hard. God, Devoe was the worst.
Oh please no
Devoe gave me lung cancer
Brainwave is not a super intellect... he just has telepathy and telekinesis innately
Really hope Wildcat survived that. He's my favorite.
Don’t think he did, but there will be a new Wildcat
@@thetwilightgamer The new girl isn't as badass as the og Wildcat.
@@jvo8068 She just got her powers, chill.
Little thing about Wildcat, he has actual 9 Lives, atleast in the comics he does. So hopefully he's got that ability in this so he can be alive
I hope we can see a version of obsidian like the one we saw on legends
Can somebody explain to me how the JSA lost since they had flash, doctor fate, and what I'm assuming is a green lantern on their side
My guess is they got rid of them individually before.
@@dolphinrooinc.1609 they probably did that with gl and flash but not fate considering he would whoop them all in less than a second
@@awasdq7684 I'd say for him they'd most likely trapped him in some magic prison
The Injustice Society wouldn't be stupid enough to face Fate in a head on confrontation. They had to trick and imprison him or something.
@@mellogaming1334 yeap like tricking to take off the helmet .
Anyone else want a jsa tv show
I fucking love this scene, but why did Gambler run up to Starman lmao? He could've stayed at a distance and shot at him.
One of the best opening scenes. Joel McHale as StarMan 😎never imagined but 😏looking good in his costume
Wish we saw more of Wizard, could’ve been fun seeing him or his son using the wand more
That scene was epic....
Is anyone else confused by the fact it appears that Icicle shot his ice through a green portal? Did Alan Scot betray them?
Pause at 2:03 to see it
I hope not. Hopefully it was either bad luck for starman or a well timed and well aimed shot by the villain
I think Icicle just shot the Ice Bolt through Green Lanterns magical fire... Stuff
How the hell you just gonna have Wildcat get thrown out a window as his big spotlight? The dude is a totally underrated bad ass and an OG and they did him real dirty.
This is the second time Icicle has killed Starman in a live action series.
Dude needs to invest in an ice proof vest or wear body armor.
@@jacoba6747 He is wearing body armor as it turns out. The suit is kevlar lined. Its just Icicle can create some really sharp ice with his powers.
Man needs some plot armor lol
@@JustSomeRandomBurger he did but it wore off like a drawn on tattoo in a pool
This also the third time that the jsa got massacred.
Sooo that's what happened to Jeff after Community
Can I just say, I’m really fucking glad that The Shade’s powers dont look like that now
At 2:03 it clearly shows icicle was trapped by Alan Scott in a green bubble or something because you see that green flame surrounding him, so either he got out killed Alan and that's how he was able to shoot the icicle or he was coming in through a wall. I don't know...
New Green Lantern vs. NEW Dr Fate who goes first.
still doesn’t make sense how injustice society won and killed all of them as of now JSA has more members and more powerful ones too but it was for plot
Especially with Green Lantern, Dr Fate, Starman, the Flash, The Hawks as the heavy hitters
Shade betrayed them
Now this show knows how to bring the jsa to live action the right way
Not
First Smallville, now this? Sandman just can't catch a break can he?
02:27 Sandman
RIP Sandman. Died in smallville in the first episode, was already dead by the time Legends of tomorrow meet the JSA, and now dead in the opening scene of Stargirl. Sandman can not catch a break
@@mr.marooned6318 Hopefully this show introduces Sand though.
Wesley Dodds himself
I would like a noir style sandman serie or movie.
We don't see Hawkman, Flash, and Green Lantern. I do see a dead Sandman in his gas mask.
The green flame are Green Lantern's doing.
We saw flash’s hat and I’m assuming icicle was fighting green lantern before he shot the icicle because if you slow it down you can see him Breaking through his constructs
Jay and Alan are not shown but they were there
Who's the man in white clothes standing at 0:21 - 0:22?
Gentleman Ghost, maybe?
A tiny little side note : Sylvester was never Starman. That was Ted Knight and later Jack Knight. One of Ted´s son´s. Couirney get´s the staff from Jack Knight and when that happen. Courtney becomes official Stargirl. Sylvester Pemerton was the first Star-Spangled Kid ! Coutney was the second Star-Spangled Kid !
Classic Winger
great scene, already better then batwoman ...
So Stripsey was the only survivor, so sad
Flash and Green Lantern are probably alive- just somewhere else. It’s comic based- If there’s no body, they aren’t dead. And I’m almost CERTAIN Dr. Fate is alive. He’s way too powerful.
@@solvemproblerstudios5889 true :)
Also Spectre. I mean he lives on completely different plane of existance and can interact with people only to certain circumstances. He is also immortal.
Travis Touchdown Potentially- Although I fear that Spectre didn’t exist on this version of the team. There was only one Spectre for the entire Multiverse in the TV versions, and considering Stargirl is Arrowverse Earth 2, it would be weird if there was another Spectre- but possible, it could be that there’s one just for Earth 2 now that the new multiverse was formed.
@@solvemproblerstudios5889 Remember that only Oliver died, the Spectre is the literal embodiment of God's wrath, so maybe it went back to Jim Corrigan
@@solvemproblerstudios5889 Don't forget the hawks
Zoom : you are mine now
Dc shows are always better than the movies! half the time lol
Can someone make a version of this without the infamous DC "3 pairs of sunglasses" filter on it ?
My TV is about to break, having to systematically push the brightness to the roof to see anything.
I need to support
Better than all the CW shows
Hope we get to see Sandman properly after his death cameo in this.
I was really surprise the flash was on the jsa there is still so much I don’t know about
And Black Canary too..and Hawkman and Hawkgirl
TVCoupleFanatic oh woah! I didn’t know the black CANARY? Is hawk girl still Kendra or?
At some point black adam and the spectre was a member as well
Captain Marvel/Shazam and Wonder Woman were in the JSA too. Batman and Superman were once honorary members.
@@JackieOnMars not really..Kendra is just an incarnation..Shayera is her real name..she and carter reincarnate
1:05 The Gambler actually tried it 🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀
That was the wizard
@@Goddrip23 If it was the wizard, he would’ve zapped Starman with his wand. Please look again.
Starman and Jeff are the same person
I can understand Sandman, and Wildcat being beaten by the ISA, but Johnny Thunder, Dr Fate, the Green Lantern and Flash?!
The JSA didn't seem very united thanks to what Pat said in the lastest episode
Lol true
Remember a few of these gys actually liveddddd
Only pat in Hourman in doctor midnight
Is that Abra Kadabra the Isa member with Magician costume?
That's Wizard
True
@@tonyvo920 oh he was also in young Justice
@@tonyvo920 and also in teen titans
Jeff went from the greendale seven to the jsa
How was the flash killed? He runs at the speed of light
Icicle
@@LalienX but how tho? He’s so fast
@@endofaneraoutnow3473 Jay Garrick is that fast compared to Barry Allen Jay Garrick is the slowest speedster
@endofaneraoutnow3473 it's possible he was taken by surprise.
What was that place? They battled them at and I wish I got a chance or that they show how the GSA died
That was the JSA headquarters
I looked at that place a lot of times that is not the JSA headquarters plus I didn’t have stairs
I want to know who the magician dude is!
The Wizard; real name William Zarick.
Icicle killed him on episode 3.
rip jsa
Is this from Episode 1?
Yep
2:25 Jay Garrick’s helmet
So her Jeff winger go after community collega
The fact that this used to be earth 2, well it still is but you know what I mean
It is earth 2 though?
The Haunted Mansion with lots of glowing green light.
We also think that dr mid nite survive
So that was Shade that got Mid-Nite. I’m betting on it
Well I wasn’t wrong, but I was about the intent
How did they get curb stomped like that?
I think it was an surprise attack so they were not prepared
They went up against a telepath, a magician, a near unstoppable zombie, and an ice manipulator.
Frank Zavala But they had a speedster and Dr.Fate, along with Alan Scott. Possible to lose, but shouldn’t be with Dr.Fate on their side
@@jonathan3741 fate probably wasnt near them at the time
@@awasdq7684 Pat mentioned The Flash and Dr. Fate in the past tense, saying "they were my friends." I find it hard to believe those fools killed Fate.
The CGI seems better
While the Legends of Tomorrow JSA that we saw is cool, its good ti see we're getting another iteration of it in an alternate Earth in the Arrowverse; one with a bit more time spent on it instead of a few cameos. Strange to think that we now know of two different Rex Tylers and two different Stargirls.
And two Wildcats, two Icicles, two Solomon Grundys
The JSA, besides Obsidian, was kinda a joke in Legends. They worked for the story being told there, but here we get a much more comic accurate, and way more badass version. The casting was also not very good. Why was Mid-Nite black? Why was Stargirl in the 1940s? She is a modern character, a legacy, not an original that fought in World War 2. Why was Hourman costume so bad? Same with Doctor Mid-Nite. The theme was great and Obsidians costume and powers were great, other than that it was pretty mediocre. You can see the difference in quality by watching this show and watching the JSA arc in legends. Even the Smallville JSA was better than the Legends version.
And I'm not hating, I loved Legends season 2. I'm just pointing out that they could've put way more work into it. The best thing that came out of it was the theme.
Pat lost everything that night
There is no way those goons can make an all out war and win against them where is Dr fate, allan scott and jay
It was revealed in season 2 the JSA had killed Eclipso’s host Bruce Gordon and that decision caused the JSA to split up, they only regrouped for this fight and weren’t acting as a team which caused there downfall.
Holy shit Star man is Jeff
Wonder if it’s gonna be alternate universe from the flash cuz jay is dead in star girls universe and he alive in earth 1
There's no way Sportsmaster and Tigress are normal humans if they can contend with Hourman. Hourman defeated Grundy. Two different characters but exact same powers.
Edit: well, let me reword. They can contend with him, but the fact that Tigress took like two direct hits if I recall and she was still standing. She should've been smashed to death, that or at least on the ground across the room.
JLA in there getting straight clapped!