Stumbled across this 5-year-old vid accidentally just now. It's surprising how exactly this mirrors my own experience - Energel ink in a Pilot G2 Pro body is my go-to pen, the most comfortable writing implement I've ever owned. I have big hands, so a standard pen body is generally too thin to be comfortable for me; I tend to grip harder, which causes fatigue and aching fingers. A thicker body, with rubberized grips, is much more comfortable and stresses my fingers far less. I started using standard Pilot G2's about a decade ago, and I still think they're great pens. But when I discovered the Pentel Energel, I completely abandoned the G2 ink. The Energel ink is sharper, darker, dries instantly, and writes more smoothly than the the G2. The difference is very subtle, but if you compare the two, one after the other, in the same body, you'll feel a little more skipping and catching with G2 ink than with Energel ink. During the years that I was using G2s, I picked up a few G2 Pros on clearance at a book store for about $3 each. Those bodies have been my go-to pen for at least eight years now, though I switched to Energen ink about 3 or 4 years ago. I haven't been getting refills, I've just been getting new Energel pens in multipacks at local stores, but I'm going to start getting refills in multipacks now and save myself a few bucks. The ink cartridges from Energel pens are about 1/16-inch longer than a standard G2 ink cartridge. They fit in my G2 Pro, but the click mechanism doesn't work properly. There is no cap on an Energen cartridge, though, so I simply shave 1/16" off the top of each cartridge with an Xacto knife to make its length perfectly match the G2 cartridge, and it fits perfectly. I know, that's an extra step that shouldn't be necessary, but I don't go through ink fast enough for it to be that big a deal. I actually ordered a nice-looking red G2 Limited from Amazon last week (should arrive in a couple of days). The G2 Limited supposedly has an all-metal body, hence the extra weight. I look forward to trying it out with Energel ink.
After all these years, it's still in my arsenal of go-to pens, and I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's just an excellent combo, and Energel ink can't be beat. Thank you for leaving your thoughts; I enjoyed reading them. And thank you so much for watching and commenting. :-)
I have used those Pentel Energel for about 3yrs now. Great pen and refill! But cracked barrels are no fun. I have used #5 O-rings(Menard's Hardware) to help prevent cracking. Place the O-ring between the barrel and the grip section. Twist until it is snug(one tenth of a turn). Prevents over-tightening. All good. I would email Pentel and mention the cracking issue. Maybe if enough of us write-in, they will address the issue. Thanks for the video.
I'm impressed at your solution. I just bought a metal pen body and replaced the refill with the Energel. I like your idea of writing a letter. Maybe they will fix the issue AND send us free pens! Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
Thanks for this video and all the other videos. I kind of went down the rabbit-hole in watching them after stumbling across this one earlier today. It’s been many, many years since I used the Energel pens. I stopped using them because I experienced the same issue with the barrels cracking-I even wrote to Pentel to let them know. I’m not a fan of the G2 pen (Uniball Signo have been my go-to pens) but I did order the G2 limited on Amazon along with Energel refills. Thanks for the suggestion.
I really hope the combination works out. I'm not sure why the Energel barrel is so terrible when they've taken the time to make such a wonderful ink. Let me know how you like it! Also, I love the Uniball Signo. Great choice! And thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
@@ThePenPixie I thought it was just me having those issues with the Energel pens-glad to know I wasn’t the only one. I’m looking forward to trying this hybrid pen. 😊
@@ThePenPixie I received the G2 limited in purple last week and bought some Pentel refills. I gotta say I LOVE this hybrid pen. It feels very comfortable to write with. I also like that I can use the Uniball Signo 207 refills. Thanks again.
I agree..mine used to crack all the time.Also, I had a problem with the energel rubber parts sliding done after several uses. I love the weight of the G2 and Dr. Grip, which is great for my arthritic hands.I switched to Dr. Grip and the G2. Now I'm gonna try the energel refill needle point in it.
Most standard retractable refills will fit into each other's barrels. I use uniball signo, zebra sarasa, and energels all interchangeably. Pentel have a metallic pen barrel too, but with no rubber grip. I like the clip on the 2nd generation sarasa, so I put a lot of inks in there :)
I don't know how to thank you..before I completed watching your full video i just fix an energel refill to my g2...it is really hard (and very costly too) to get a G2 refill in India.. fantabulous..I was just looking for this.
wow, you opened my eyes again. I knew the G2 refills would work in my lamy safaris, with a wad of paper in the barrel, so if the energels are the same size as G2's, viola! Better ink without the high Lamy prices ! ! Thanx again Pixie👍
I've had the same problem with the Energel bodies cracking. I ended up ordering a Pilot Metropolitan Gel Pen body to try with my Energel refills. I found this video while trying to confirm that the G2 refills are compatible with the Energel refills.
hi, i find that the pilot G2 refill and the Pentel energel refills though same length are not exactly the same dimensions, it looks like the Pilot's head tip is fatter than the energel's; and so if i use pilot bodies like G2 plastic or G2 metropolitan with Energel refill, the refill either does not lock on the body spring or it goes out of the tip hole and wiggles a little when you write (due to the Energel tip being thinner than the pilot body's hole; i have not gotten hold of a G2 limited body so i dont know if it will be same as the metropolitan; do you notice any wiggling using the Limited's body with the energel refill?
I just ordered these refills to try out i was using the Pilot g2 refills like forever at work. I also have a Karas Retrakt on order i want to put the EnerGel Refill in instead of the G2's. My last pen body i bought was a Grafton which i love but i wanted to change it up a bit. Thanks for your review i"m an instant fan and will subscribe :)
So glad I subscribed! It's hard to get people to understand my love for my pens hahahaha so this is refreshing, also I was wondering if you have tried the pentel energel style
I am glad you subscribed, too! I have reviews on Pentel Energel pens on my channel. They're some of my absolute favorite pens out there, and you can't beat the price! Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
Thanks for the tip. I'll check those out. While I like this pen body, I regret buying the gold. It's just not my color. Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
Pentel makes excellent products. Pilot is quiet, higher quality, sedated; funnctional. When that magic happens when a raw human is writing-time traveling- across some inscrutible tract of ineffable time, the pilot wins. Quiet. Write on the "mark". Nyuk nyuk nyuk. You got it write the first time. Love it.
Yes pixie,many cracked barrels and even a few clips fell off 😬. Just got the Pentel all metal alloy today. No way this barrel is going to crack or clip fall off. Two problems solved with one pen purchase. I've found my new writing utensil 😊👍.
Search on amazon “pentel energel alloy” I have all the body colors they only come in black ink though but you can refill them with any color or tip size they are heavy and sturdy and perfect! 😁
I like them! I just saw a new pen body is coming out, as well, on jetpens.com. I might have to check those out, too. Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
I'm really enjoying this combination for grading. I would definitely not get the gold again; it's nice, but not me. I would definitely go with the silver or purple. Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
I'm currently using a Dr grip gel with the v7 rt refill which are much better than the g2. I love this combo but I tend to drop my pens a lot and the needle tips bend kinda easily so I might switch to these energel refills in hopes that that be more durable
Great video!! Have you tried the Pentel energel Alloy(metal) body pens? I was wondering if the G2 Limited was heavier than Pentel Alloy. Also do you know if this pen will fit the pentel needle tip refills? I would love to see a video on these if they're in.your pen stash!!!
Thank you! I have not tried the metal Energel pens, so I can't say which is heavier. I tried to take apart the Energel needle tip, and that sucker is stuck together. I would say just based on that, it won't work. ;-) However, if you could get it apart, it might. Both of mine are cemented shut. Sorry. I feel like I have been really unhelpful here. I wish I had more information to give you proper answers to your questions. I hope what little I could offer was helpful. Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
The G2 Limited is a tad heavier than the Alloy, but the difference is hardly noticeable. The Limited is more stylish. The pen body has a more silky feel to it. Swap out the G2 refill for a Pentel Energel (I prefer either the 0.5 or 0.7 needletip) refill and you've got yourself one hell of a writing pen. The G2 Limited wins hands down!
@@Ali-in8xi hahah! You are everywhere! But I really needed your comment, because I like heavier pens to write with. I will give the G2 Limited a try, I have the Energel Alloy in black and one in gold. Thanks! For some reason Sal does not like the Limited at all!
@@humanfirst11 I know. I saw his video. I would take a G2 Limited over the original G2 any day! What do they say? Different strokes for different folks.
Recently I learned about two nicer pens in the Energel line that are fully metal and quite inexpensive. One is called Energel Alloy, and the other is Energel Philography - comes in click type and twist mechanisms. I don’t think that either pen has that squishy type grip that’s used so frequently these days (a plus for me). There seems to be frequent price reductions on both model- based on the color of the pen. The lowest I’ve seen is about $6 for the Alloy, and $11-15 for the Philography. I really enjoy your channel.
Thank you for the information, and I appreciate your kind comments. I'm going to have to do a little searching for these versions; I do believe I've seen the Alloy. Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
Thanks for replying Alex Lucas. I actually don't have a standard G2 right now, so I couldn't have given you an answer. Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
NO WAY!!! NOPE!! I write so much every single day, and the Pilot G-2 Gel Roller 0.7mm medium point is the ONLY way to go! Way more colors, way smoother, writes cleaner....I think you need just need to break one in real good. Plus a lot of it is the paper you're writing on. Pentel Energels are garbage!
Vocal fry? i don't even know what that is. I only know a little about ASMR, and I'm shocked you think my voice fits that bill! Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
Stumbled across this 5-year-old vid accidentally just now. It's surprising how exactly this mirrors my own experience - Energel ink in a Pilot G2 Pro body is my go-to pen, the most comfortable writing implement I've ever owned. I have big hands, so a standard pen body is generally too thin to be comfortable for me; I tend to grip harder, which causes fatigue and aching fingers. A thicker body, with rubberized grips, is much more comfortable and stresses my fingers far less.
I started using standard Pilot G2's about a decade ago, and I still think they're great pens. But when I discovered the Pentel Energel, I completely abandoned the G2 ink. The Energel ink is sharper, darker, dries instantly, and writes more smoothly than the the G2. The difference is very subtle, but if you compare the two, one after the other, in the same body, you'll feel a little more skipping and catching with G2 ink than with Energel ink.
During the years that I was using G2s, I picked up a few G2 Pros on clearance at a book store for about $3 each. Those bodies have been my go-to pen for at least eight years now, though I switched to Energen ink about 3 or 4 years ago. I haven't been getting refills, I've just been getting new Energel pens in multipacks at local stores, but I'm going to start getting refills in multipacks now and save myself a few bucks.
The ink cartridges from Energel pens are about 1/16-inch longer than a standard G2 ink cartridge. They fit in my G2 Pro, but the click mechanism doesn't work properly. There is no cap on an Energen cartridge, though, so I simply shave 1/16" off the top of each cartridge with an Xacto knife to make its length perfectly match the G2 cartridge, and it fits perfectly. I know, that's an extra step that shouldn't be necessary, but I don't go through ink fast enough for it to be that big a deal.
I actually ordered a nice-looking red G2 Limited from Amazon last week (should arrive in a couple of days). The G2 Limited supposedly has an all-metal body, hence the extra weight. I look forward to trying it out with Energel ink.
Thank you so much for this detailed view.
After all these years, it's still in my arsenal of go-to pens, and I'm glad I'm not the only one. It's just an excellent combo, and Energel ink can't be beat.
Thank you for leaving your thoughts; I enjoyed reading them. And thank you so much for watching and commenting. :-)
Could you please tell us whether you are using Energel refill 0.5 or 0.7?
I have used those Pentel Energel for about 3yrs now. Great pen and refill! But cracked barrels are no fun. I have used #5 O-rings(Menard's Hardware) to help prevent cracking. Place the O-ring between the barrel and the grip section. Twist until it is snug(one tenth of a turn). Prevents over-tightening. All good. I would email Pentel and mention the cracking issue. Maybe if enough of us write-in, they will address the issue. Thanks for the video.
I'm impressed at your solution. I just bought a metal pen body and replaced the refill with the Energel.
I like your idea of writing a letter. Maybe they will fix the issue AND send us free pens!
Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
Just get the energel alloys. Problem solved. 5.99 at Target 👍
Thanks for this video and all the other videos. I kind of went down the rabbit-hole in watching them after stumbling across this one earlier today.
It’s been many, many years since I used the Energel pens. I stopped using them because I experienced the same issue with the barrels cracking-I even wrote to Pentel to let them know. I’m not a fan of the G2 pen (Uniball Signo have been my go-to pens) but I did order the G2 limited on Amazon along with Energel refills. Thanks for the suggestion.
I really hope the combination works out. I'm not sure why the Energel barrel is so terrible when they've taken the time to make such a wonderful ink. Let me know how you like it!
Also, I love the Uniball Signo. Great choice!
And thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
@@ThePenPixie I thought it was just me having those issues with the Energel pens-glad to know I wasn’t the only one. I’m looking forward to trying this hybrid pen. 😊
@@ThePenPixie I received the G2 limited in purple last week and bought some Pentel refills. I gotta say I LOVE this hybrid pen. It feels very comfortable to write with. I also like that I can use the Uniball Signo 207 refills. Thanks again.
I just wanted to say Thank You for everything You do as a Teacher. You do make a difference.
Aw thanks. I appreciate that. :-)
Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
Great video! I agree the Pentel Energel inks are the best.
I appreciate that. I definitely haven't found better.
Thank you for watching and commenting. :-)
I agree..mine used to crack all the time.Also, I had a problem with the energel rubber parts sliding done after several uses. I love the weight of the G2 and Dr. Grip, which is great for my arthritic hands.I switched to Dr. Grip and the G2. Now I'm gonna try the energel refill needle point in it.
Yes, their barrel materials are just not good. I hope you like the new combination!
Thank you for watching and commenting. :-)
You may want to try the Pentel Alloy pen as well.
Most standard retractable refills will fit into each other's barrels. I use uniball signo, zebra sarasa, and energels all interchangeably. Pentel have a metallic pen barrel too, but with no rubber grip. I like the clip on the 2nd generation sarasa, so I put a lot of inks in there :)
I'll have to try the Zebra Sarasa at some point soon. Thanks for all of the information; I appreciate it.
And thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
That idea of changing refills works like a charm. With this pen.
Definitely. I've graded many papers with this combination and love it!
Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
I don't know how to thank you..before I completed watching your full video i just fix an energel refill to my g2...it is really hard (and very costly too) to get a G2 refill in India.. fantabulous..I was just looking for this.
I'm so glad I could help you out! Enjoy your new-found knowledge and any great pens that result from it.
Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
From where did you get the G2 brother can you attach a link? Thanks?
I put a energel refill in a Dr grip and it fit just fine. I like it
Definitely something to try!
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wow, you opened my eyes again. I knew the G2 refills would work in my lamy safaris, with a wad of paper in the barrel, so if the energels are the same size as G2's, viola! Better ink without the high Lamy prices ! ! Thanx again Pixie👍
Happy to help!
Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
I put my EnerGel Regill in BiC Gel-ocity illusion, and it feels awesome!
I'm glad you found a combination you love. I love your name, by the way.
Thank you for watching and commenting. 🙂
I've had the same problem with the Energel bodies cracking. I ended up ordering a Pilot Metropolitan Gel Pen body to try with my Energel refills. I found this video while trying to confirm that the G2 refills are compatible with the Energel refills.
I hope it was helpful.
Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
hi, i find that the pilot G2 refill and the Pentel energel refills though same length are not exactly the same dimensions, it looks like the Pilot's head tip is fatter than the energel's; and so if i use pilot bodies like G2 plastic or G2 metropolitan with Energel refill, the refill either does not lock on the body spring or it goes out of the tip hole and wiggles a little when you write (due to the Energel tip being thinner than the pilot body's hole; i have not gotten hold of a G2 limited body so i dont know if it will be same as the metropolitan; do you notice any wiggling using the Limited's body with the energel refill?
I just ordered these refills to try out i was using the Pilot g2 refills like forever at work. I also have a Karas Retrakt on order i want to put the EnerGel Refill in instead of the G2's. My last pen body i bought was a Grafton which i love but i wanted to change it up a bit. Thanks for your review i"m an instant fan and will subscribe :)
Thanks for the kind words! I hope your refills worked out well for you. I still like mine!
And thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
Pentel now makes an Alloy body for the Energel refills. I like it better than the Pilot Limited body.
So glad I subscribed! It's hard to get people to understand my love for my pens hahahaha so this is refreshing, also I was wondering if you have tried the pentel energel style
I am glad you subscribed, too! I have reviews on Pentel Energel pens on my channel. They're some of my absolute favorite pens out there, and you can't beat the price!
Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
Urban Survival Gear Ti Scribe Bolt takes Energel, Pilot G2 and UniBall. So does Machine Era classic Brass ($38)
Thanks for the tip. I'll check those out. While I like this pen body, I regret buying the gold. It's just not my color.
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Liked and Subscribed. Very nice video. Uniball Jetstream, Signo 207 Micro, Regular Signo 207 will also work.
Thank you so much! That's definitely good information for us all. I appreciate it!
And thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
Pentel makes excellent products. Pilot is quiet, higher quality, sedated; funnctional. When that magic happens when a raw human is writing-time traveling- across some inscrutible tract of ineffable time, the pilot wins. Quiet. Write on the "mark". Nyuk nyuk nyuk. You got it write the first time. Love it.
Thank you for watching and commenting. :-)
Yes pixie,many cracked barrels and even a few clips fell off 😬. Just got the Pentel all metal alloy today. No way this barrel is going to crack or clip fall off. Two problems solved with one pen purchase. I've found my new writing utensil 😊👍.
Nice! Yeah, the regular old Energel barrel is just not good quality, even though the ink is superb.
Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
The Pentel Alloy body is nicer than the G2 limited body.
Search on amazon “pentel energel alloy” I have all the body colors they only come in black ink though but you can refill them with any color or tip size they are heavy and sturdy and perfect! 😁
I like them! I just saw a new pen body is coming out, as well, on jetpens.com. I might have to check those out, too.
Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
Love! I'll definitely get a purple, and maybe even a silver as well.
I'm really enjoying this combination for grading. I would definitely not get the gold again; it's nice, but not me. I would definitely go with the silver or purple.
Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
I'm planning a trip to Staples sometime this week and hoping they have this.
Brenda M I hope they have it, too. If not, it's on Amazon. Have fun at Staples!!!
Pentel energel refills also fit in zebra sarasa
Have you tried the pilot v7 rt refill I think it's as good as the needle point energel but that's just my opinion haha
Love your voice...
Great tip btw.
Thanks, and glad it was helpful.
Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
I'm currently using a Dr grip gel with the v7 rt refill which are much better than the g2. I love this combo but I tend to drop my pens a lot and the needle tips bend kinda easily so I might switch to these energel refills in hopes that that be more durable
I do find them to be durable. It's not the typical "needle tip" you might expect.
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Wonderful video, what king of notepad is that? Looks super cool
I'm glad you liked it; that was a Hobonichi A5 planner.
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I have put energel and uni ball refills in my pilot Dr grip before
I hadn't thought of that. Those are two of my favorites. I need to try this!
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Yeah I love pentel energel products.
They're definitely one of my favorites!
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Try Stabilo Palette pens with pentel energel refill. its great
I'll add that to my list. Thank you!
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Can you do a review on the PaperMate Gel Pens?
Do you mean the PaperMate Inkjoy Gel Pens? If so, I have a review on those. I LOVE them.
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Great video!! Have you tried the Pentel energel Alloy(metal) body pens? I was wondering if the G2 Limited was heavier than Pentel Alloy. Also do you know if this pen will fit the pentel needle tip refills? I would love to see a video on these if they're in.your pen stash!!!
Thank you!
I have not tried the metal Energel pens, so I can't say which is heavier.
I tried to take apart the Energel needle tip, and that sucker is stuck together. I would say just based on that, it won't work. ;-) However, if you could get it apart, it might. Both of mine are cemented shut. Sorry.
I feel like I have been really unhelpful here. I wish I had more information to give you proper answers to your questions. I hope what little I could offer was helpful.
Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
The G2 Limited is a tad heavier than the Alloy, but the difference is hardly noticeable. The Limited is more stylish. The pen body has a more silky feel to it. Swap out the G2 refill for a Pentel Energel (I prefer either the 0.5 or 0.7 needletip) refill and you've got yourself one hell of a writing pen. The G2 Limited wins hands down!
@@Ali-in8xi hahah! You are everywhere! But I really needed your comment, because I like heavier pens to write with. I will give the G2 Limited a try, I have the Energel Alloy in black and one in gold. Thanks!
For some reason Sal does not like the Limited at all!
@@humanfirst11 I know. I saw his video. I would take a G2 Limited over the original G2 any day! What do they say? Different strokes for different folks.
Strange.. My pentel energel never cracks. Try using the pentel energel X maybe. It is the plastic version. Bic 4 colour pens also cracks.
I haven't ever had a Bic 4 Color crack, yet all of my plastic Energels crack. Weird!
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Will the Pentel Energel needle tip work too?
Yes, it should.
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Hi, do the EnerGel refills fit in the regular Dr. Grip pen bodies?? TIA!
I just tried out an Energel in my blue Dr. Grip, and it worked! I hope this helps.
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It works in the Dr. Grip Gel body that also fits the G2 refills. I don't think it would work in the Dr. Grip Center of Gravity.
Hello, is energel 0.7 or 0.5 thanks.
0.5
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can i try my pilot juice body with the energel refill ?????
Did it work?
Recently I learned about two nicer pens in the Energel line that are fully metal and quite inexpensive.
One is called Energel Alloy, and the other is Energel Philography - comes in click type and twist mechanisms. I don’t think that either pen has that squishy type grip that’s used so frequently these days (a plus for me).
There seems to be frequent price reductions on both model- based on the color of the pen. The lowest I’ve seen is about $6 for the Alloy, and $11-15 for the Philography.
I really enjoy your channel.
Thank you for the information, and I appreciate your kind comments. I'm going to have to do a little searching for these versions; I do believe I've seen the Alloy.
Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)
Hi: Is the grip diameter of the G2 Limited the same as the standard G2? Thanks.
Under The Bus the pilot G2 limited has a wider grip diameter than does a standard pilot G2.
Thanks for replying Alex Lucas. I actually don't have a standard G2 right now, so I couldn't have given you an answer.
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I despise plastic disposable pens
I think there's definitely a place for those in our world; typically, I choose non-disposable.
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where do u get ur pens
I mostly get them from Amazon, JetPens, or Goulet Pens.
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NO WAY!!! NOPE!! I write so much every single day, and the Pilot G-2 Gel Roller 0.7mm medium point is the ONLY way to go! Way more colors, way smoother, writes cleaner....I think you need just need to break one in real good. Plus a lot of it is the paper you're writing on. Pentel Energels are garbage!
Can you use more vocal fry & lip smacking, in your videos? Relaxing ASMR. Thanks! 😀
Vocal fry? i don't even know what that is. I only know a little about ASMR, and I'm shocked you think my voice fits that bill!
Thanks for watching and commenting. :-)