Consequences In The Classroom
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- Do I have consequences? Of course, I do! When my students make a poor choice they have a consequence. I believe in logical consequences and not punishment. Love you bunches!
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Your logical consequences approach definitely make sense! There's no "clip chart" in the workplace, in college or anywhere else in adult life.
I had the clip chart system in first grade. The same kids moved their clips to "red" every day and it got to a point where it didn't even faze them anymore. I had to move my clip once for swearing and all it did was make me cry. It didn't help me learn WHY swearing isn't appropriate.
I LOVE this comment. The clip chat doesn’t make sense and it doesn’t work. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. ((Hugs))
I normally don't comment but I have to agree. When I subbed it didn't seem like it was very effective, but that could have just been me. the logical consequences does make a lot more sense. I also completely agree with Ms. May that it starts with building positive relationships with the kids first as a foundation. Ms. May I would hate to have you show me your "other side" but I completely agree and I did the same thing too (when subbing and student teaching). :)
Recess is essential for wiggly kids. Definitely not a logical consequence to take it away.
@@shoppergirl8904 I would generally agree. That's why I would suggest slashing five minutes off if misbehavior continues to occur after the first warning. The kids still get their recess, they just don't get as much time in recess like the other kids. Those five minutes of lost recess time can help them to evaluate their decision. Of course, slashing five minutes depends on how long recess is. If Recess is 10 minutes. Probably 2 minutes would suffice.
I love your approach. I’m not a teacher yet, but this technique I use with my own child and it works!!!!
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You always make me smile friend. I have a surprise for you friend. It’s coming in the mail soon. Love ya! ((Hugs))
This is you doing gods work. Coaching teachers to be better so that the kids win out in the end. I believe every teacher needs a positive, kind, relatable role model and you are just that Miss May. Keep making the world better one video at a time xoxo p.s could you do a pt 2 for on the spot logicol consequences for kids that wont focus , kids that disrupt others etc. Love you Miss May
Thank you so much for your kind words it really means a lot. I can definitely do a part 2. Love you back sunshine! ((HUGS))
Can you put a link for the part 2 please? (HUGS) 🌷🌷🌞🌞🌹🌷🌞🌈🌈
You are a great Teacher keep up the good work
Keep up the good work❤ you are helping alot of teachers
I feel you are right about the logical consequence for the student who made a mess in the bathroom because cleaning up the mess relates directly to what the student did that needs to be corrected. Taking away recess tine for that student has nothing to do with the student’s initial mistake. I agree with you completely!
Moving their clip or color for me is documentation for the parent and my principal. I also have a terrible memory so it reminds me who I need to talk to after they have calmed down. Having the conversation and consequences are done also. Bonding with them is key. Students start out thinking I'm a "mean" teacher, but by the end of the first quarter they are very happy they got me as a teacher.
Great information!! I teach Kindergarten and it is rough some days. I am still blown away at the disrespect I get from kids at this age. AND how their parents give excuses or laugh it off. So frustrating to not have support sometimes. Thank you for this video!
It can be frustrating not getting parent support. God has our backs though. ((Hugs))
Check out the book Conscious Discipline. Wonderful investment!
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It depends on the problem. I make my students bring out their class work to recess if they were playing or talking in class and did not complete assignments.
Yes on the excuses! As a teacher it is exhausting. I'm not criticizing your parenting, I'm not out to get your child, but you need to know about this behavior and we have to do something about it at school and home. If anything this call/email shows I care.
I will totally admit I was a rule follower "goody goody" in school, but the literally handful of times I had to move my clip or whatever the thing was at the time, my parents would say "what did YOU do". Never do it again. Nowadays it's "what did you (the teacher) do?" But you are right-- it is the world today and we just have to accept it unfortunately!
Never talk to a kid when they are upset! Amen! I say it right to them. I cannot talk to you when you are angry and do not have full control over your actions. (Especially whining and yelling) I do not do whining whatsoever. If I try to have the conversation and you still aren't ready we wait.
whinning, eyes rolling, giving attitude to me, hitting me just because you think you can, etc ticks me off a lot. I will try your tips. It makes sense. I teach summer camp in the summer and usually the attitudes are from the 8-9 year olds. The whinning is from 6-7 year olds because another child will not let them play. I am not sure how to deal with that. can you do a video on what to do when others will not let a child play with them and how to deal with whinning. it is usually the child wants to play in a center, but the center is full. I use visuals to show how many are allowed in the center, have him/her ask others to maybe play at the table instead, try redirection etc. thank you for all your help
Unfortunately my school requires us to use the color system. I literally just had it hanging on the wall. Instead I used your super improver wall, and my kids loved it! It made a huge difference in my classroom. My kids never let me forget to stay on top of it lol. I plan on using it again this year. I even got one of the other teacher's at my school to use it in her classroom! Thank you for the idea and the resource!
I’m sooooo glad to hear that the super improver wall worked out for your class. Have a FABULOUS SCHOOL YEAR!!! ((Hugs))
What does that super improver wall looks like?
I play on my relationship with my kids. . Oh ________ I'm heartbroken by your choice. I love you so much, but this is not what I want to see my ____________ doing. So what are you going to do to fix it? (They reply) I still love you, but because of your actions this is what's going to happen. And next time I know you will make a much better choice. Now when its severe, oh girl I am not a yeller but that stern hard voice comes out along with the squinty eyes of total doom and talking through my teeth. haha!
Awesome! Thank you for watching. ((Hugs))
thank you for this video!! I really struggle with managing behavior and consequences. I'm still learning because I'm in the teaching program currently, but this video helps!
Thank you for your positivity and for sharing what is working for you.
I’ve tried the ignore thing, but what happens then is that the other students are distracted and annoyed at the incessant behavior. I’ve learned to address it on the spot, one-on-one, eye-level and with a stern, but quiet, voice that allows them to choose the logical consequence if they continue, lol. It has worked like a charm.
Being a teacher requires a lot of wisdom and patience!
You’re so right, being a teacher takes lots of wisdom and patience. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts and wisdom. ((Hugs))
Im a first year teacher teaching first grade and your channel has helped me relieve soooooooo much anxiety! Thank you One Fab Teacher! ❤❤❤
I never thought about the clip system in this manner but what you are saying makes SO much sense!!
Awwwww, thank you for watching! ((Hugs))
You're right Miss May I don't believe in the no-recess policy either. I'm an Instructional Aide for Special Education in Middle School and we have students with ADHD. It does not help these children need to release all that energy and not stay inside the classroom at their desks.
This is such an awesome and informative/ confirming video. I've never heard of the clip system. But I'm in agreement with you about logic consequences because I do it. I work with preschoolers and "time out" (which I equate to time off of recess) is pointless because the tension span of young children is short. My babies in the past found ways to entertain themselves in time out when I did use the "time out" method, out of instilled habits, which did nothing to them grasping the understanding fir why their actions was unacceptable. Therefore, time outs I found that to be pointless. They forget why they are even in time out to begin with. Logical consequences in love is the best way of redirecting undesirable behaviors if you ask me. It always constructive teaching to take place and more hands on with correcting undesirable behaviors. I'm also an ignore Queen when need be to verbal and harmless behaviors that are not acceptable lol... Great video Ms. May you're truly one FAB Teacher, loooovvvve you😍❤😍❤😍❤!!!!
My first year as a teacher, I had the largest class in my school with over half the students demonstrating serious behavior problems. I started the year with logical consequences, but since their behavior was so serious, the principal told me I had to use a clip chart. I honestly believe it did nothing to help the kids. If anything, the ones getting in trouble just did so more publicly. I wish I had been given more time to implement logical consequences with that class. I have never used a clip chart again.
Ms.May, just found your channel yesterday and I am glad that I did. Veteran high school teacher of 23 years here who is loving your content and your enthusiasm. Most of all, I am loving your love of Jesus!...keep the faith. We don't start school in New York for another three weeks but your videos have this guy even more excited to get back to it! Peace In Christ.
Wow! Thank you so much for watching and your comment. It means a lot coming from a 23-year high school vet! ((HUGS))
I'm a mom of three and about ready to step into teaching a first grade class at my kids school and I have to say all your methodology is what I use in my own home to teach my own kids. I also think it's biblical in nature (don't respond to foolishness with foolishness like it says in Proverbs...aka: don't argue with a child; natural consequence to teach respect for people who are God's creation (clean up the bathroom if you mess it up). I am so so thankful to listen to your videos!
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts as a mother of three. Have a FABULOUS and BLESSED school year! ((HUGS))
This is something a lot of teachers needed to hear. I"m a college student, student teaching with a teacher and my teacher had nooooo discipline. Them kids walked all over her. It was sad.
As a first year teacher, I am so grateful that I found your page! I have been watching Ms. May marathons! Thank you for taking the time to share your experience.
Awwww, you just made my day with Miss May Marathons. LOL Thank you so much for your kindness and support. Glad to help! ((HUGS))
My 7 year old is struggling and has had 10 minutes off recess and when talking to him about it he says he'd rather not go outside for recess anyway. Some kids have undiagnosed adhd so consequences often don't help at all. My chikd said he wants to get his teacher a gift for Christmas so she will stop yelling at him. So clearly public shaming isn't helping either. I recently quite working to stay at home with him but we are still struggling. Thank you for everything you do and deal with.
Yes!! I came from an early childhood background and we called it natural consequences but whatever the name it works and is so much better than the clip charts. Those always reminded me of sticker charts. The same students would always get the stickers and the same students would have one or no stickers. Thank you!!
I am so thankful for your channel:))
I struggle most with the consequence part because I get heated and mad. I give crazy consequences & then I feel trapped getting out of it. I'm not sure if that makes sense. This year, I will try walking away and address it later. Thanks for the advice.
Awwww, yes just try this year to walk away and wait until you are more calm to deal with the situation. I plan to create a video on as many logical consequences as I can. Have a fab school year! ((Hugs))
You know - Love and Logic will tell you to walk away so you have time to think and calm down. I heard Jim Fay speak before and he liked to say to a child, 'I'll talk to later about this so we can work it out." I like that because it lets the child know that you won't forget.
BLANSTAR21: Take your time at the beginning of the year (4-8 weeks) to teach & practice what you expect of the kids - every little thing (as each activity becomes necessary). Every time you do something new with them, explain how you want it done & practice it. Praise them for great effort. Then reinforce everything all year long. Let them know they can count on you to tell them what you expect of them, so they don’t have to worry about unfair expectations. Then really think through your lessons (even the week or night before) and determine any processes or procedures you need to think through or write down so that you can explain it & practice it before requiring it to be done.
Slowing down at the beginning of the year, and making the behaviors & class climate supreme over curriculum makes teaching easier in the end. I hope this helps. Good luck.
I appreciate this video so much! I am starting my second semester of student teaching in a couple of weeks and I had such a miserable experience in my first semester that I've been extremely anxious about it (literally having nightmares or not sleeping at all). The mentor teachers I was with last semester always just yelled at the kids and it never solved any of the extreme behaviors (first graders kicking, punching, threatening to kill each other) and it made me extremely uncomfortable on top of it. I was told by one teacher that I just have to get over the fact that in order to be a teacher, you have to be "kind of a bitch." I actually had an observation that went terribly because three students spoke over me the whole time and literally got up and started jumping around and I ignored them because they were in the back and were more distracting towards me than the other students, and I complimented other students on doing the right thing/making wise choices and my professor told me that highlighting the positive students seemed like I was "nagging" the others. That was pretty frustrating to me, and the whole experience kind of ruined teaching for me. Thankfully I had a couple of months off between practicum experiences so that I could rediscover why I'm doing this in the first place, and the things that were said to me are wrong and I don't need to yell at students or be "kind of a bitch." I've always pulled students aside when they're making a questionable choice and I've been criticized by mentor teachers because they clearly enjoy humiliating the students. This video was exactly what I needed to feel better about student teaching again. Thank you!
Oh my goodness. Reading this broke my heart Katie. It truly bothers me that teachers would say that to you. That’s why are kids grow up feeling like nobody because teachers like this are making them feel this way. Please don’t EVER take this kind of advice. It’s sooooo wrong!!! You give it to God and ask God to do his will during this time. Say a prayer before you enter that school, y’all to him and pray and ask for strength in you mind. You rock this last bit that you have left. I can already tell you’re going to be a fab teacher because you know this wasn’t the right way to deal with kids. Praying for you to have a fabulous second time around. In Jesus Name Amen. ((Hugs))
Aw. I just finished my first year and have also been told by many teachers too that I needed to be more of "a bitch" and yell more. I also got a lot of pressure from administration to send students to the office. I think sometimes yelling works better short term, but in the long run, positive behaviour management pays off.
I am so sorry to hear of your experience. I hope you managed to keep going!
It's REALLY hard when you have 3 or more kids playing up. About the only things I can think of if they are totally ignoring you is:
1) just stop speaking and look at them. For 15-30s. Look hurt/disappointed
2) get everyone to go outside, line up and wait until everyone settles down, before coming back in
3) referral out of the classroom (ideally if you can get one person for obvious, extreme behaviour)
@@OneFABTeacher amen!!
I love your teaching style! I have the students sit with me and we have a conversation to discuss their actions and what they learned. It’s usually about 3 mins or so. So essentially they do lose recess, but it’s effective.
Studies show that taking away recess in ineffective and doesn't curb misbehaviors in class. I believe consequences should be educational in nature. Yours make perfect sense in that way!
Thank you so much for watching. ((Hugs))
Please host a professional development seminar or something. Your content is amazing and so pure. You are helping my first year teacher self over here!
Fully agree with you ... children NEED recess! I feel it is important for there to be a correlation between the problem and the consequence. Missing recess has nothing to do with playing in the bathroom or talking back.
Amen! Thank you for watching! ((Hugs))
Lol Ms May, if you spoke to me like you did that hand I would be the best student all the way through University. Love your teaching approach. We need you here in the Bahamas.
I think it depends on the situation. I work at a preschool. I usually will have a child that may sit out of outdoor time according to their age. Which is 4 or 5.While they are sitting down, I will sit with them and ask them do they know why they are sitting down and I will explain my expectations of them and give them a hug and they go on and play. I have been very successful thus far. But, I love your logic on consequences, I will implement that this upcoming school year.
totally agree Miss May but I do have one suggestion. Ignoring (behavior extinction) can work sometimes, but sometimes a student is unconsciously asking to be "seen". the program Time to Teach has 4 one word "diffusers" they use to let the student know I "see" you but we're not having what you're serving us. They are: "I understand", "Nevertheless", "I'm sorry" and "Probably so". so when a kiddo says "I hate this! or It's too hard!" you say with sincerity and authenticity: "I understand" and a follow up, "how might I help?". totally diffuses the situation. when a student blurts something outloud that is trying to derail instruction, you can smile and say "nevertheless..." and continue on with instruction. etc etc. I find these diffusers super helpful to acknowledge frustration but not spend time on it--which also builds community. You're amazing and continue what you're doing!
MISS MAE THANK YOU! I am a first year teacher from Indiana and I start Aug 20th! This video was incredibly helpful! More please:)
Congrats on your first year sunshine! You’re going to be FABULOUS!!!! ((Hugs))
Joe Bagiackas: Good luck to you & have a wonderful year. Check out ALL of Miss May’s management videos. I think she has a playlist.
I hope you had a wonderful first day of school. 📚🖍✏
Hey Joe I'm in Indy! How is it going?
Wonderful, thank you, thank you, thank you! Those relationships with students are SO important. I am so ready to get into MY HAPPY CLASSROOM! Love You!🙂
Relationships really are so important and crucial. I'm happy you're so happy to get back into your happy classroom. Our students deserve it. Love you, back! God Bless! ((HUGS))
Thank you so much for sharing. I totally agree with you!!! Consequences should not mean harsh punishment or humiliation. Teach Ms. May! You ARE One Fab Teacher!!!!
What you start talking about at 9:15 is so very true. Society, and parenting, is so different and many times we teachers feel like we have many added layers of teaching we need to teach our students besides just the academics, like you said. It’s a heavier load for us. Sometimes I feel like I’m having to rear these children FOR the parents. It is a great burden and responsibility and it is over and above what “should” be required. The only way a teacher can sustain this is to be able to match this with greater amounts of love and passion for the children, families, and the sure knowledge that we are not only sowing seeds in the mind and hearts of these children for now, but can make a positive difference in the course of their whole lives. The rewards of teaching, right?!
I completely agree. If you could just teach the academics because they already had the behavior and manners in check it would be a dream. However, it's very rewarding when you see those amazing changes for the better. ((HUGS))
Awesome! This video makes so much sense!! Taking a child's recess changes nothing. The same children continue to miss their recess for the same things.
You are amazing!! I've been teaching over 30 years and you are RIGHT ON!!!
Thanks for sharing your wonderful spirit :)
Wow, thank you! That's so amazing! Many ((HUGS)) to you for continuing to continue to educate our youth and teachers.
HI Ms. May your video on logical consequences is very meaningful, because when often when students lose things like recess, P.E. sitting on the bench.... they really are just become angry about not participating, but they tend to come back to our classes with more anger and repeat the offense because it wasn't dealt with directly. I had a child this year (his behavior was extreme!) I tried to use logical consequences and he just said, "I'm not doing that!" and that's when I had to try something else, but as I continued using logical consequences with him a lot and I mean a lot it paid off. He was asking could he sit with other kiddos (where he was very isolated in the beginning of the year). He did not form health connections with peers. He cursed the kids out and me the teacher and even once hit me (so he did have a suspension or two), but as the year progress I tried to know his interests and also know his triggers, but yet I stayed consistent with using logical consequences when he exhibited certain behaviors. Overtime I began to notice his behavior changed part of this I believe because like you said he didn't get the responses he was looking for. Yes his behavior was an extreme case in my class and he was a child who had external issues and many of these kiddos do. I wanted to share about him because the transformation is remarkable. This was a work in progress in June, but even in June he was chosen as a student of the week and had an opportunity to go on the Game Truck with other Star Student Scholars in our school.
Last, I also discipline with logical consequences generally and it does work. It does help when you bond with your students because they really care if they know you care. This is a beautiful video that I wish every principal and teacher should watch! Yes my principal believes in those clips. She has suggested them but its not mandatory and I do not use them. Thanks a lot (I'm loving it)!
Thank you so much for watching. It sounds like you’re a FABULOUS educator. Keep being that shining light. ((Hugs))
Love it. I hate clip chart...20 years teaching and never used...I hate dojo...like a cop following you when you drive..you are only good while they are there. Awesome job teacher!!!
Recess is definitely needed! Teaching kids that have not had recess does not work, plus they're kids and need play! We had a student misbeving towards his classmates during break this year, but instead of taking recess away we had a discussion with the kid and agreed that he would stay in our more closely monitored courtyard zone (we have three zones, the others are a forest and then the swings and football pitch and are too big for constant monitoring of specific students) for the rest of the week to 'reboot' and then he was able to choose freely again. It was a logical consequence decided in collaboration with the student, which I agree is much more appropriate than taking recess away! Just found your channel and am enjoying your great videos - keep up the good work!
I love the idea of zones. Thank you for sharing! ((Hugs))
you dont argue with them, thats totally right, i am in 8th grade and a lot of my teachers are really bad at ignoring and they just argue and it just causes classroom stress, but also remember to make sure your treating your kids well and fair, like explaining why is important and making sure they feel heard and happy
I totally agree with you about not arguing with the child when they make a bad choice and talking about that behavior and giving them a logical consequence.
I highly recommend reading the book “The Secret to classroom management” by Michael Linsin. It’s about using 3 rules, 3 consequences and No rewards. No candy, no toys, no stickers…nothing!
Thank you for the recommendation! ((HUGS))
You're so right on with how a kids operate and all you're doing is bonding with them so it will allow them to see that you are the person they can trust and therefore they will automatically adjust their own actions. Logical Consequence works with my own kids so why not in a classroom environment .
Logical consequences are key! Thank you for sharing. ((Hugs))🩷
I totally agree with the ignoring technique. I also understand that, that behavior is an out cry for something else going on with that child. After I give my kid the choice of leaving or staying, if they decide to leave, I have a chat with them later about what happened. We discuss what they were feeling at the time and how they can appropriately address that issue and how they are expected to behave from now own. I want my kids to be able to trust that I am there for them when they need to get things off their chest 🤗
Ok. I think that you are absolutely right with the clip change! Last year, I had a kiddo who did nothing ALL school year. This child would not pick up a pencil to write their name. No matter how positive I was, I could not get anything from this child. I created a relationship. I bonded with the child and everything, but this child would not do anything. This child Would hide pencils, crayons, paper and etc that I'd given them to work.....in all my 19 years of teaching, I've never met a child like this!!!! I handle classroom management pretty well, but this past year I felt so defeated. What would you have done with no parents to support you?
yes! i agree with you on recess, kids need to get their energy out, they need to run around and play! i have a kid with really bad adhd & once my coworker took away his whole recess but then i was the one who had to deal with his anger at missing recess and the resulting extra energy.
I agree with you! I truly believe that, if you base your class management on respect and talk to the kids in a nice, sensible, respectful way, they do understand. I try to apply that in my class, and although I still need to improve, I can see it really works well. Kids are not dumb, so we should not treat them as if they couldn't understand basic values and that there will be logical consequences for their choices. Thanks for being an inspiration!
Well said! I truly agree. Thank you for your kind words. ((Hugs))
Amen! Consequences that match the behavior.
11:15 to 11:30. School isn't the same as when we were kids. We need to adapt, not just the students. Great points.
((HUGS))
You have it because you have already taken the time to build relationships and they don’t want to disappoint you. Great job! 😍 Those of us that create bonds can create a different class culture. Thankful for teachers like you!
Thank you so much for this sweet comment. ((Hugs))
Thank you for sharing your "Logical Consequence" tips. This is perfect for myself, who is a substitute teacher ☺️
You're so welcome! ((HUGS))
Yes!! So many teachers call the student out in front of everyone else! Most times this is what the child seeks...attention. I love that you do it discreetly! I agree that taking recess away doesn’t help but I struggled to find logical consequences when I taught.
Thank you for sharing. ((HUGS))
This is sensible and some teachers don’t do sensible! I love your videos. I’ve been sending them to my daughter who is a teacher. She’s like you! And you are stinkin’ adorable too! 😊👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Thank you so very much. I appreciate your sweet and kind words. ((HUGS))
So grateful I found your channel. It’s a GODSEND!!!! This coming school year will be my 2nd year teaching. My first year was full of chaos. I’m in desperate need of that “well-oiled-machine” feel. Can’t wait to do a deep dive into your channel!!!!! Feeling better after only 2 videos.
Yay!!! Congrats on this being your 2nd year! If you need help even after watching my videos sign up for a consultation and we can chat about it! ((HUGS))
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I 100% agree with you that clips and skipping recess makes it worse. They need to get that pent up energy out and logical consequences make more sense to them than unrelated consequences.
Just wanted to say that I am a first year teacher and am going to be teaching first grade. Your videos have been so helpful to me in learning on what to do and what not to do this year. I've been so nervous and your videos have made me feel a lot more confident! Thank you so much for posting all of these videos for teachers!! xoxo
Thank you so very much for your kind words. ((HUGS))
I really love this video. It really underscores so much of the other programatic pieces you’ve discussed. Building relationships, knowing & facilitating routines & procedures, employing logical consequences, and being consistent are the techniques that help all teachers, but specifically if a teacher isn’t strict (esp high school teachers), these techniques make the difference & go a long way to create healthy classroom climates 💝
Thank you for watching. ((HUGS))
Thank you!! Thank. You. This is exactly how I felt all through clinical teaching and I felt like the only person who felt this way. I have finally found your channel. Thank you. This makes sense.
my teachers are also really good at social talk, there helpful and nice and they often solve the problem with you really easily
The most important part of being a teacher is building a relationship with students. I truly believe that no matter how intelligent you are, no matter how engaging your lessons appear to be on paper, no matter how well you know the subject matter, no matter how hard you work, and no matter how many "teacher tricks" you have up your sleeve - none of these things are that important at all compared to your relationship with the students. If you lose the students' respect, you can't teach them anything. If you love what you teach but your kids don't love you, your kids won't love what you teach. They will be disengaged, disrespectful, and disinterested in school. When I was a teacher I never built up a relationship with students (I am very bad at social interactions), and my kids blatantly disrespected me, didn't try, didn't respond to ANY consequences including logical consequences or calling their parents or even sending them to the principal, and many of them didn't learn. They stopped liking school. This is why, if you want to be a teacher, you don't need to be super knowledgeable on the subjects you teach (just willing to learn what you have to as you go along), you don't need to have the cleverest or most unique lesson plans, you just need to really work HARD at building personal relationships with each and every one of your students. If you ONLY do that, you already will have succeeded.
Wow! Thank you for your thoughts. ((Hugs))
LOVE and LOGIC! Yes!!
Thank you! I’ve tried class dojo and have eyes clip charts but I found tracking points up and down to be tedious at best and ultimately very negative. The negative behaviors take over the positive. I had a class last year though that had members who would only respond if there was some kind of reward system. How sad is that. I totally agree with natural consequences. It just makes sense and is far more effective as you said. I added an extra element of a long term reward that could accumulate over the term with a class benefit at the end. Easier with older kids for sure. Thanks for the refresher and reminders of the pitfalls! Happy teaching. We have one more month before we go back. We stay in school until the last day in June.
Thank you so much for watching. I agree that class dojo is a bit tedious for my liking. Have a fabulous school year! I return in two weeks. ((Hugs))
This is excellent, and I totally agree with you about the flip chart. I believe that the logical consequence is an awesome teaching moment for children to make the right choices.
AMEN!!! Thank you for sharing. ((HUGS))
I definitely agree with you about the logical consequences. They are much more effective than standard punishments. I've never had a clip chart or any formal behavior system, just logical consequences. There is one way that I think a recess can be used as an effective consequence. If I have a student (or students!) who is repeatedly fooling around and socializing during work time, I may assign them laps at the beginning of recess. The way I look at it, the consequence is logical because they lose some of their social/play time for socializing/fooling around in class, but it keeps them moving, so they still get the physical outlet they need. Thank you for sharing! I really enjoy your videos!
My first day is tomorrow! I can’t wait to teach these third graders and use ALL of your amazing guidance and advice. Best of luck to you this year Miss May! You are such an AMAZING inspiration to me. xxxx
Awwwww, prayed that you had an amazing week. ((Hugs))
One FAB Teacher thank you SO much!! I did! It was amazing! I am loving 3rd grade! ❤️ Finding out that relationships and logical consequences are key ☺️💕 Praying for your first week!
Favorite teacher youtuber hands down! I’m entering my first year of teaching and I’ve been binge watching all your videos! We need every teacher to be like you! ♥️
I used the super improver chart you introduced last year in my special education classroom...thank you thank you thank you!!! My students loved it and ironically it even helped them identify words. It worked extremely well.
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I love this philosophy! I love an immediate, natural consequence! Thanks.
No recess ticks them off. Then, they will get you back. 😂 In fact, they probably need more recess than most, IMHO.
Outstanding video!
Yes I love your logical consequences strategy rather than punishment. Good thinking!!!!! I would definitely allow a student to have time out so they can take deep breath and calm down especially after a teacher finish teaching a lesson. I definitely don’t believe in taking away recess time it only makes or put a child in a worst position to make them act out worst than before. I believe in allowing them to sit out for a few minutes and see if they have learned their lesson on their bad behavior or have them think about what they done wrong that got them there and once that have fully understood that then I believe allowing them to go play. I also love how you say u would pull student outside the classroom for a pep talk to help them clean up their act. Rather than embarrassing them in front of the class. I also would use a chart call a conduct behavior chart I would use that chart and call it whatever the mascot for that school and then do like Unsatisfactory, Need Improvement, Satisfactory using emoji or with their names in the correct conduct positions . And if the have chosen bad behavior then I would have to move a letter grade down so as their conduct. So if a student have a B and the did something wrong I move it down to a C based upon how many strikes or warnings that they gotten. I want to be the teacher that tries not to lose her temper when I’m upset but still have to do consequences so they makes better choices.
I love this. I haven’t even started my first year teaching and I can’t stand that clip chart so ineffective
I really want your advice - what’s a logical consequence for crawling all over the floor during morning meetings? It is always 2 girls in my Kinder room. It’s disruptive for other students - so I always feel like ignoring it, but I worry it should have consequences. Thanks Miss May.
I would talk to the girls like Miss May discussed in the video and have them show you how they are suppose to sit during the meeting time. If they repeat it then I would tell them they need to show me during their play time .
I need to grow in this area! I unfortunately used the clip chart system the first time I taught first grade. I’m teaching it again this year and that is one thing that I am never doing again. I agree with you about recess. Let them have their recess 😂😂😂
The only time I’ve ever “taken” recess away was for poor decision making out at recess. For example, refusing to come in from recess (eloping). If I can’t trust you to come inside, then you need to stay in and show me some trust. Otherwise, I don’t take away recess. If they had incomplete work, they can still go to recess, they’ll simply miss some of their free time.
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I think you did a great job with great advice... I have a question about situations where there are a few students acting out but 2 or 3 maybe that always behave always respectful .. it really bothers me when they have to be punished for something they didn't have a part of, but suffer bc the rest of the class did...
Thanks for the content ❣️ very helpful!! 💯
I think back in the day no recess might have helped, but most of today's kids really don't care. I've literally had some of my more defiant ones tell me so! I guess it all depends on the child.
Great video Miss May! Very helpful!
I appreciate you! ((HUGS))
I love how you prioritize the relationship with the student. That's something that wasn't emphasized for me, when I was a TA. Most of the time, I was told that I had be harder on the students, let out my harsh side.
I wonder if trying to focus on maintaining a relationship with the class would have helped me feel less frustrated when I tried to manage the class?
Even though my school has us use clip-systems (traffic light system), I will definitely take some of your notes to heart bc I want to lovingly help my students grow from their mistakes.
Thanks again for sharing!
Thank you. Relationships are so important. ((Hugs))
I teach 5th and use logical consequences. It works so well and really shows children the "real world' consequence of their actions. I do not pull students from recess or PE unless it is a SERIOUS offense!!! They know if they have to sit out, it's a BIG DEAL!
Amen! I think and truly logical consequences is what truly works. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. ((Hugs))
Just wanted to say, I’m so glad I came across your video. I’ve recently been trying to implement this kind of approach (especially having the child who “misbehave” to calm down before having a chat ) and I love it and I can already see some positive changes. Still hard to implement at times when overwhelmed but I’m not kicking myself as I just started working in the industry and I’m learning too. Anyways amazing video! Thanks
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Great advice! Relationship building is #1 in my book! Thanks for sharing!
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Thank you for outlining the kind positive approach to behavior consequences.
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Another great video! I agree, I believe taking away recess is counterproductive. Thank you for the great ideas.
Ms. Mae I love your videos!!! I'm just starting my first year of any teaching and I really appreciate all of your wisdom. I'm still trying to figure out everything
If a child talks back what would you consider to be the logical response
AN apology letter stating what they did, what they said, and what choice will they make next time. They MUST read it to me too. ((HUGS))
What can you do when a student acts up purposely just to get a chance to be in the cool off area and not do any class work? By the way thank you for all your advice.. it’s truly helped me on the first days jitters..awww I start Tuesday September 7. God bless you!!
These students get ignored for a bit. Meaning their behavior not them personally. If they're wanting to be in the cool off area, then there's something about that area where they feel safe. I'm a firm believer that kids act out for a cry for help. I hope your year has been going FABULOUS! God bless you, sunshine! ((HUGS))
I had a student last year who would refuse to come to the carpet anytime I would start teaching. Or when told no, would start screaming and tipping chairs. I felt like I was constantly tending to her and it was severely cutting into learning time, and affecting the classroom environment as a whole. I had a cool down spot, but she would request going there anytime I started to teach. I knew she also had a rough home life. I tried to be empathetic, but I felt it was at the expense of my other students. I even had one start to mimic her behaviors for attention. What would you have done in this situation? It was honestly so defeating I wanted to quit my job at one point.
I would have ignored her. If she refused to the carpet then so be it (for the time being). I would teach my little heart out and even though they aren't on the carpet they can still see and hear that instruction. Ignore, ignore, ignore at first. I suggest never feeding into the negative behavior. It's not fair to the kids who choose to learn. Children don't like to be ignored and once they realize you won't be feeding into that nonsense they will come around. When that child is doing great things at the right time, that's when I would call them out for their awesome attitude, behavior, etc. I would also, spend some time with that kiddo. Lunch dates work wonders! This is how you can begin building a relationship with that child. It takes time but if you stay consistent with the process it works. We have to always remember we can't change children overnight, but we can surely help get to making that change. Many ((HUGS))
I hate taking playtime away from my first graders. It’s a standard practice at our school, but I feel they all need that one unstructured break of play they get all day, especially the ones who misbehave. I have been trying to implement more logical type consequences and will continue to try to improve in that area.
I agree. They need that break and to be able to run and play. Thank you so much for your input. ((HIUGS))
When I first started I would take recess away but as I’ve been teaching longer I have experienced it DOES NOT work. It doesn’t work for the child and especially you as a teacher. It’s like you get no break what so ever, and the child does not let the bad energy out.
I agree, my first couple of years I would and I realized as well that it wasn't effective. Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts. ((HUGS))
We now have CPS- Collaborative Problem Solving, whoa its natural consequences and then solutions meetings with the kids, mini and planned...
I am a art teacher and have a 1st grade class that is unruly loud disrespectful nothing I have done has worked they are all over the place. Climbing on tables running fighting I have called parents on the spot and they still do what they want. I am so frustrated I want to quit after two weeks. It’s art but I can’t and there homeroom teacher can’t even control them! Help!!!!! Please I have tried the sad face.
I don't take away recess either but sometimes if someone has broken a rule and I haven't had time to talk to them in their face like you do then I will say, "Class we are going out a few minutes early for recess to play." When we get out there I call the student aside and we chat. I explain my disappointment and say that they are missing a bit of this extra recess as i was disappointed in their behaviour. I often refer back to adulthood and tell them, if I speed in my car, i get a ticket and have to pay it. It feels awful. Etc.. i tell them I have had two in my life etc and then say since you don't have any money but you do have this free time. I then let them sit next to me for maybe two or three minutes. When done, I give them a stern reminder of what the rule was that they broke and I expect better and always finish with a hug or a handshake. I tell them I know they made a mistake like I have done in my past and to think next time . Now go have fun I say.
Thank you for sharing! ((Hugs))
Hello. It is an awesome approach the logical consequences. I will definetelly put it into practise in my class. Thanks for inspire us ALWAYS!!!! Love you so much.❤❤❤❤
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Miss Miriam
you are awesome i just started following you and i think i have watch most of your videos they are so good and you are an amazing teacher we really need more teachers like you
Thank you so much. I really do appreciate your kind and very sweet words. Many ((HUGS))
I love your approach to dealing with behavioral challenges in the classroom. Thank you for sharing this video!
You’re amazing. I am so grateful for you and your videos right now. I’m a first year teacher and I’m teaching first grade.
Awww, thank you so much sunshine! Yay, for teaching first grade. Blessings to a fab school year for you! ((Hugs))
This was so inspirational. Thank you!
Thank you so much! ((Hugs))
Thank you. This was a long due video. I hope it will be of great help for the new and returning teachers. Hope you have a wonderful school year.
Thank you so much! Have a blessed 2018-2019 school year! ((HUGS))
So I don't use recess as a punishment!! Like oh you didn't listen so no recess for you, personally it takes away from my prep time. I will tell my kiddos, if you play when it is time to learn then you will learn when it is time to play. So if they don't get their work done then I sit one on one at recess and we get it done, they are way more focused and usually can get the work done while still missing enough recess that they will think twice about playing when it is time to learn. However I am an assistant and I will be a first year lead teacher next year so I am trying to suck up all your knowledge. I absolutely love your channel ❤
EXCELLENT ADVICE!!
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