You could do a primary (wet) and a secondary (dry) set-up. Plumb both pumps into one tank, connect to the other with a check valve and draw out of the other. The first tank collects all the moisture before it passes into the secondary.
Thought about doing that, makes alot of sense. What kept me from doing it is I want to be able to remove one of the compressors completely at a time without having to do alot of work. Incase one fails or for portability.
The 10 gallon tank...Will always hold water because the hole for drainage is indented and not at the absolute bottom of that reserve tank being used as a manifold.
I'm 4 years late. I had this idea using an already fabricated reserve tank. Working with whats already fabricated, I was going to add a T-Joint to the pre-fabbed input with regulator. Is there an advantage to having 2 seperate inputs to the tank like you did, over using a T and one input to the reserve tank or "HUB"? Thanks!
I added a 20 gallon (tank only no motor) to my other 20 gallon tank with a motor and the motor still kicks on like it’s only 20 gallons. Is there anyway I could make it not come on so fast? I’m not trying to burn out my motor. I’m using a lot of air tools. After a minute of using it the motor kicks on to refill.
There is usually an adjustment for when it cuts off and turns in. Usually near the air input to the tank from the compressor it will be electrically connected to the compressor as well. You may have to find the manual for your compressor to see which way to adjust and how far you can take it. This issue is one reason I went with multiple compressors.
Did you try to co-ordinate the two compressors at all...to stop one of them coming on first and doing all the work filling the air tank? Or are you happy with one doing all the work and the other kicking on when the first one can't keep up?
I have adjusted the pressure switches on each and they start and stopped very near to the same time. It's a toss up which one starts first though. May have something to do with how sensitive/accurate the pressure switches are on these things. There has been some talk with Codemakesitgo regarding a digital controller of some type that would handle it and be expandable to handle 1 or 2 more compressors if I ever needed more capacity.
Ok so y not simplify everything and just remove one of the pressure switches,run a hose connecting the 2 tanks an run both pumps on the one pressure switch. This way both pumps are doing the same work!
I'm wondering if one compressor start refilling at a higher pressure than the other, is there not a risk that only one compressor always runs? And the other never except if the pressure goes under the threshold of both?
With the pressure sensors in these air compressors it's very hard to get them in perfect synch. I see no harm in one running more than the other. If it fails I can close off its feed line and run the remaining compressor until I can replace the failed one.
@@HaslipCycleWorks Couldn't be off by much could it? Wouldn't they equalize out between the 3 tanks as it's filling? With all valves open , both compressors should operate and read close to the same because both gauges are reading the same thing. Correct?
DXT61 that makes sense so all things being equal they should share the load so to speak. As long as the pressure sensor in each compressor is accurate they should run for the same amount of time. However pulling from experience they are not and one usually runs a little longer than the other but not consistently.
The hand movement is overwrought to say the least. I mean two distinct hand movements for a one syllable word? You definitely need to brush up on the Hand Actors Armbook used across the country for great reference and established standards of articulation when you’ve got a lot to say but you don’t use sign language and are afraid to show your face because of your mob ties, or you are being hunted by your ex-girlfriend or your ego and scalp were damaged in a scary air compressor mishap with 300 psi pointed right at your hairline leaving you with part of your brain exposed. So now, as a twisted and vengeful DIY guy, you intend to upend the DIY community by making your hand the most expressive hands of all time, positively exquisite in their range and inflection. ,
Crazy how some people are just plain dicks wouldn't you say...I mean damn man do the video yourself so we can witness the great master hand actor in action...or crazy idea here, hold on to your britches friends, save yourself and everyone else involved the know it all and just don't watch something that bugs you that bad. I mean just a thought...😊@@andrewhigdon8346
HERE IS THE TITLE... Combining 2 smaller compressors for more air capacity and CFM. (A ten minute video at most) ALSO, After all of that hole drilling work, why is there no condensation drain at the bottom of the new tank? This tank may not collect much water but it will collect some.
You haven’t stated anything that hasn’t already been said in the comments below. There is a drain on the new tank. It is shown at around the 13 minute mark. Yes the video is long, but when trying to show a wide ranging audience of different skill sets and understanding how to do things you error on the side of caution and include as much information as possible as to not leave some people with more questions than answers. If you find yourself unhappy with my video feel free to film, edit and upload your own for the internet to pick apart and criticize.
@@HaslipCycleWorks Yeah, you are right. I guess it is all my fault that you choose to meander of topic for 20 minutes. The point I was making is that this video isn't advertised as a how to use tools and how not to paint video. If someone watching doesn't have those tools or doesn't know how to PROPERLY use those tools then they probably shouldn't be messing around with a pressurized system in the first place. It's just dangerous!
@@tribulationprepper787 whatever you say, next time I’ll send my video idea past you first before I upload. Again feel free to film, edit and upload your own video on how to do it correctly.
Why 1/4” in and 3/8 out? I would think you would want max volume 3/8 or even 1/2” coming in to manifold. Then put a larger 1” 3/4” or 1/2” leader coming out of tank for shop air . This would keep CFMs up and your volume gets into manifold quicker aiding Cfm production.
All good questions, I used these sizes because of cost and availability. To have true 3/8 or 1/2" I would have to modify the compressors. Want to keep as much if the warranty as possible.
Do you have to start with two identical compressors or can one have a little bit more PSI than the other like one has a hundred and the other one has a 150
A couple of 90ﾟ elbows on your input valves to the red tank would be a more convenient set up for you, that and if you had put them back closer to the wall @ or around the hallway or closer to the bottom. Hell while your @ it just put another 90ﾟ elbow on the top outlet so you don't wear out the a hose through use... great little setup tho. I'd like to see it up and running and it what the difference came out to be for you. Great video!!!
Thank you, great ideas! Appreciate it. It worked really well, I could run my plasma table off if it without issue and the compressors run time was cut way down. It had a few flaws, I’ll correct those in version 2. Thank you again.
@@HaslipCycleWorks I added a 20 gallon (tank only no motor) to my other 20 gallon tank with a motor and the motor still kicks on like it’s only 20 gallons. Is there anyway I could make it not come on so fast? I’m not trying to burn out my motor. I’m using a lot of air tools. After a minute of using it the motor kicks on to refill.
to his credit he's explaining it as if you've never done this kind of work before.. so it could be very helpful for many people, just like the fast-forward button is helpful for the rest of us. try not to be such a dick all the time, your own life will reflect those decisions.
Great video, I'm looking to do something similar. I'm considering using non return valve between the compressors and Aux tank so that the compressors feed the aux tank only and not eachother
So you've got regulated air from both compressors going onto the auxiliary tank. Wouldn't it be better to fill that tank directly from the pressure switch outlets on each compressor, then have your regulator coming off the auxiliary tank? Assuming the aux tank can handle the PSI of the main compressor.
How much money did you spend on the two compressors the external tank all the fittings and the hose? Then how much time did you spend rigging it all up? Is it really worth it when you could of just bought an air compressor new for 1100 with 13cfm plenty enough for a plasma cutter. Or buy a good used one for 400 bucks. I like to see people modify stuff but unless it's making something 10times better it's not worth it. Now if you put 6 of those compressors motors all going into one big 80 gallon tank rather than a bunch of small ones for space you just made a compressor with over 40 cfm and no matter how much time you spend making it it's OK because it's better than what you can buy.
@@awfab3517 I got the compressors used. At the time I think maybe $200 for both. The air tank was free. Fittings and line were less than $50. We all start somewhere and often times it’s at the bottom. Some of us simply don’t have the money to put $1100 into a big compressor. Not to mention I got years of service out of that setup and then sold it all for what I had in it and upgraded to a large 220v 2 stage 80 gallon compressor, air dryer and regulator, refrigerated air dryer and complete shop air plumbing. All new stuff. But again we all have to start somewhere.
@@HaslipCycleWorks Yeah, sorry, what I meant to say was that this was a very good video. I am hooking two air compressors together and since I saw this, I think I might do the reservoir like you did. I also like the vice brake you made. I'm making one of those too.
And why is that? That’s how they are made in the factory. I take full responsibility for myself and trust my welds, of course if someone doesn’t feel the same by all means don’t.
Pretty sure that’s why he tig welded it and not mig. There is nothing wrong with tig welding a pressurized tank if he’s a good welder and knows what he’s doing. I’m a union boilermaker and tig weld boiler tube root and stick weld the cover pass 7 days a week 12 hrs a day, and every one is x rayed. I haven’t had a bad shot yet. Not one leak either.
@@BoomerDH81 Remember these videos are made for a very wide audience not just for you. So, feel free to create your own video and upload it demonstrating the correct way to explain things to people who may not have the vast experience or knowledge you clearly have. Go ahead I’ll wait.
You could do a primary (wet) and a secondary (dry) set-up. Plumb both pumps into one tank, connect to the other with a check valve and draw out of the other. The first tank collects all the moisture before it passes into the secondary.
Thought about doing that, makes alot of sense. What kept me from doing it is I want to be able to remove one of the compressors completely at a time without having to do alot of work. Incase one fails or for portability.
Could the wet tank be tiny
@@timr6301 you will want them equal size or the wet tank to be the larger one.
The 10 gallon tank...Will always hold water because the hole for drainage is indented and not at the absolute bottom of that reserve tank being used as a manifold.
Very true, I’m not too worried about though. If it becomes an issue I can relocate the drain valve.
But good eye and observation, thank you.
I'm 4 years late. I had this idea using an already fabricated reserve tank. Working with whats already fabricated, I was going to add a T-Joint to the pre-fabbed input with regulator. Is there an advantage to having 2 seperate inputs to the tank like you did, over using a T and one input to the reserve tank or "HUB"? Thanks!
No advantage at all. The T absolutely should work.
Thanks so much. I have no experience with this stuff so really appreciate your time.@@HaslipCycleWorks
I added a 20 gallon (tank only no motor) to my other 20 gallon tank with a motor and the motor still kicks on like it’s only 20 gallons. Is there anyway I could make it not come on so fast? I’m not trying to burn out my motor. I’m using a lot of air tools. After a minute of using it the motor kicks on to refill.
There is usually an adjustment for when it cuts off and turns in. Usually near the air input to the tank from the compressor it will be electrically connected to the compressor as well. You may have to find the manual for your compressor to see which way to adjust and how far you can take it. This issue is one reason I went with multiple compressors.
@@HaslipCycleWorks ok thank you. I don’t have the manual. Would you happen to know what it called? The switch or valve.
@@HaslipCycleWorks thank you for the tip on what to look for. I found a few videos on how to adjust. Thank you!!!!!
@@papergatorzfedducca7998 I just know it as a pressure switch.
Did you try to co-ordinate the two compressors at all...to stop one of them coming on first and doing all the work filling the air tank? Or are you happy with one doing all the work and the other kicking on when the first one can't keep up?
I have adjusted the pressure switches on each and they start and stopped very near to the same time. It's a toss up which one starts first though. May have something to do with how sensitive/accurate the pressure switches are on these things. There has been some talk with Codemakesitgo regarding a digital controller of some type that would handle it and be expandable to handle 1 or 2 more compressors if I ever needed more capacity.
Ok so y not simplify everything and just remove one of the pressure switches,run a hose connecting the 2 tanks an run both pumps on the one pressure switch. This way both pumps are doing the same work!
@@michaelpreston2392 in case I need to remove a compressor I don't want to have to worry about hooking everything back up.
I'm wondering if one compressor start refilling at a higher pressure than the other, is there not a risk that only one compressor always runs? And the other never except if the pressure goes under the threshold of both?
With the pressure sensors in these air compressors it's very hard to get them in perfect synch. I see no harm in one running more than the other. If it fails I can close off its feed line and run the remaining compressor until I can replace the failed one.
@@HaslipCycleWorks Couldn't be off by much could it? Wouldn't they equalize out between the 3 tanks as it's filling? With all valves open , both compressors should operate and read close to the same because both gauges are reading the same thing. Correct?
DXT61 that makes sense so all things being equal they should share the load so to speak. As long as the pressure sensor in each compressor is accurate they should run for the same amount of time. However pulling from experience they are not and one usually runs a little longer than the other but not consistently.
The hand movement is overwrought to say the least. I mean two distinct hand movements for a one syllable word? You definitely need to brush up on the Hand Actors Armbook used across the country for great reference and established standards of articulation when you’ve got a lot to say but you don’t use sign language and are afraid to show your face because of your mob ties, or you are being hunted by your ex-girlfriend or your ego and scalp were damaged in a scary air compressor mishap with 300 psi pointed right at your hairline leaving you with part of your brain exposed. So now, as a twisted and vengeful DIY guy, you intend to upend the DIY community by making your hand the most expressive hands of all time, positively exquisite in their range and inflection. ,
Crazy how some people are just plain dicks wouldn't you say...I mean damn man do the video yourself so we can witness the great master hand actor in action...or crazy idea here, hold on to your britches friends, save yourself and everyone else involved the know it all and just don't watch something that bugs you that bad. I mean just a thought...😊@@andrewhigdon8346
HERE IS THE TITLE... Combining 2 smaller compressors for more air capacity and CFM. (A ten minute video at most)
ALSO, After all of that hole drilling work, why is there no condensation drain at the bottom of the new tank? This tank may not collect much water but it will collect some.
You haven’t stated anything that hasn’t already been said in the comments below. There is a drain on the new tank. It is shown at around the 13 minute mark. Yes the video is long, but when trying to show a wide ranging audience of different skill sets and understanding how to do things you error on the side of caution and include as much information as possible as to not leave some people with more questions than answers. If you find yourself unhappy with my video feel free to film, edit and upload your own for the internet to pick apart and criticize.
@@HaslipCycleWorks Yeah, you are right. I guess it is all my fault that you choose to meander of topic for 20 minutes. The point I was making is that this video isn't advertised as a how to use tools and how not to paint video.
If someone watching doesn't have those tools or doesn't know how to PROPERLY use those tools then they probably shouldn't be messing around with a pressurized system in the first place. It's just dangerous!
@@tribulationprepper787 whatever you say, next time I’ll send my video idea past you first before I upload. Again feel free to film, edit and upload your own video on how to do it correctly.
@@HaslipCycleWorks Nice video. Entertaining that a tool is commenting on using tools...
Do you need an air hub? How does the setup(2 air compressors)work with the sand blast cabinet? Do you feel it has enough scfm?
It actually works pretty well. They seem to keep up with the stuff I've blasted in that cabinet.
How many SCFM are you getting? Picked up the 110lbs blaster and need more SCFM.
Why 1/4” in and 3/8 out? I would think you would want max volume 3/8 or even 1/2” coming in to manifold. Then put a larger 1” 3/4” or 1/2” leader coming out of tank for shop air . This would keep CFMs up and your volume gets into manifold quicker aiding Cfm production.
All good questions, I used these sizes because of cost and availability. To have true 3/8 or 1/2" I would have to modify the compressors. Want to keep as much if the warranty as possible.
Do you have to start with two identical compressors or can one have a little bit more PSI than the other like one has a hundred and the other one has a 150
They can different.
Thank you I'm going to set one of those up soon since I have a few small air tools I want to use I have two small compressors like that already
Did this put out enough cfm for your sandblaster? I have one 20 gallon mastercraft it doesn’t put out anywhere near enough.
Seems to keep up so far.
Keep your eye on the air hoses from Harbor Freight. I had one fail at the end fitting after 12 months.
Thank you for the heads up!
I don’t know anything about pneumatics so my question might be a bit stupid, is it not worth putting a water trap between the two tanks?
You absolutely could. I was trying to keep cost way down.
@@HaslipCycleWorks That makes sense, thanks for your reply.
I connect mine to a propane tank yesterday. I heard not to weld on a tank. Made n video and will have it on my channel soon.
Look forward to seeing it.
A couple of 90ﾟ elbows on your input valves to the red tank would be a more convenient set up for you, that and if you had put them back closer to the wall @ or around the hallway or closer to the bottom. Hell while your @ it just put another 90ﾟ elbow on the top outlet so you don't wear out the a hose through use... great little setup tho. I'd like to see it up and running and it what the difference came out to be for you. Great video!!!
Thank you, great ideas! Appreciate it. It worked really well, I could run my plasma table off if it without issue and the compressors run time was cut way down. It had a few flaws, I’ll correct those in version 2. Thank you again.
New subscriber!!!🔥🔥🔥
Awesome! Thank you!
@@HaslipCycleWorks I added a 20 gallon (tank only no motor) to my other 20 gallon tank with a motor and the motor still kicks on like it’s only 20 gallons. Is there anyway I could make it not come on so fast? I’m not trying to burn out my motor. I’m using a lot of air tools. After a minute of using it the motor kicks on to refill.
Damn just get to it already
to his credit he's explaining it as if you've never done this kind of work before.. so it could be very helpful for many people, just like the fast-forward button is helpful for the rest of us. try not to be such a dick all the time, your own life will reflect those decisions.
Why the hands?
It was the style I was going for, but has since changed that lol.
Great video, I'm looking to do something similar. I'm considering using non return valve between the compressors and Aux tank so that the compressors feed the aux tank only and not eachother
Thank you. That would probably be a good idea. I haven’t had any issues, yet lol.
So you've got regulated air from both compressors going onto the auxiliary tank. Wouldn't it be better to fill that tank directly from the pressure switch outlets on each compressor, then have your regulator coming off the auxiliary tank? Assuming the aux tank can handle the PSI of the main compressor.
I left the regulators on each compressor incase I needed one to be mobile.
Good observation.
Get an aluminum 11-gallon tank. It's much lighter and rusts much slower than steel.
I just used what I had on hand. The aluminum tank is a good idea.
How much money did you spend on the two compressors the external tank all the fittings and the hose? Then how much time did you spend rigging it all up? Is it really worth it when you could of just bought an air compressor new for 1100 with 13cfm plenty enough for a plasma cutter. Or buy a good used one for 400 bucks.
I like to see people modify stuff but unless it's making something 10times better it's not worth it. Now if you put 6 of those compressors motors all going into one big 80 gallon tank rather than a bunch of small ones for space you just made a compressor with over 40 cfm and no matter how much time you spend making it it's OK because it's better than what you can buy.
@@awfab3517 I got the compressors used. At the time I think maybe $200 for both. The air tank was free. Fittings and line were less than $50. We all start somewhere and often times it’s at the bottom. Some of us simply don’t have the money to put $1100 into a big compressor. Not to mention I got years of service out of that setup and then sold it all for what I had in it and upgraded to a large 220v 2 stage 80 gallon compressor, air dryer and regulator, refrigerated air dryer and complete shop air plumbing. All new stuff. But again we all have to start somewhere.
What cfm u reaching
Never checked to be honest.
How big is that bung hole?
Lol
Or are you seriously asking the size of the bungs I welded in the tanks?
@@HaslipCycleWorks Lol, no just trying to be funny.
@@HaslipCycleWorks But great video though. I'm definitely planning something similar for my shop now.
@@jamesfinney8841 Thank you, good luck with your build!
He’s Robert
1:00 you said dooty. lol
Lol!
@@HaslipCycleWorks Yeah, sorry, what I meant to say was that this was a very good video. I am hooking two air compressors together and since I saw this, I think I might do the reservoir like you did. I also like the vice brake you made. I'm making one of those too.
@@Thewarhorse47 It's all good made me laugh 👍
If u wanna watch a guy shake his fingers around for 30 minutes, this is it! Damn
Lol, thanks. I've since changed my video format.
Air pigs are anything but cheap,lol
bad idea to be welding to a pressure tank, or drilling holes in it
And why is that? That’s how they are made in the factory. I take full responsibility for myself and trust my welds, of course if someone doesn’t feel the same by all means don’t.
Pretty sure that’s why he tig welded it and not mig. There is nothing wrong with tig welding a pressurized tank if he’s a good welder and knows what he’s doing.
I’m a union boilermaker and tig weld boiler tube root and stick weld the cover pass 7 days a week 12 hrs a day, and every one is x rayed. I haven’t had a bad shot yet. Not one leak either.
Cutting holes into rusty air tanks .. mmhmm. Safe..
Pretty sure I warned people about it in the video but thanks anyway.
Hands
Too much speaking
Get to the point already
@@BoomerDH81 Remember these videos are made for a very wide audience not just for you. So, feel free to create your own video and upload it demonstrating the correct way to explain things to people who may not have the vast experience or knowledge you clearly have. Go ahead I’ll wait.
You talk a lot
Ok.
Zzz.....😴😴
I mean if you want to do a video and show me the right way to do it, by all means go ahead.