Great review. Once you go oled you will never want to go back. The legion slim 5 oled blew me away and changed my opinions and thoughts on all laptops. I honestly think Lenovo is putting out the best quality right now out any other laptop manufacture. It’s also awesome to see the ThinkPad line still alive. My first ever laptop was an old ibm thinkpad with a pentium 1 lol.
Thank you for the review. I'm just wondering if OLED has any downsides? Do you find the battery life of the OLED screen version, shorter than IPS screen versions (above 10 hours)? Also, how do you find it on your eyes (Some say it is less blue light and better for eyes, while others say OLED makes eyes more tired)?
With the Gen 3 model the battery life went down from 12-13 hours in practical use to 3-4 hours with the OLED panel in comparison to the 1080p low-power LCD screen.
As a non-techie (who lives in a cave) your Thinkpad videos have been my main intro to the brand and this famous line. The reliability was the main draw for me but the more I learn the more I like, especially the enhanced repairability of the new Gen 5 T14 in partnership with iFixit.
PWM keeps me thinking whether I should go for an OLED. The beautiful colors and deep blacks and lack of backlight bleeding are all nice, but of what use if the low-light vibration causes eye strain after a couple of hours.
@@Burbanana Nothing yet, still on my 5yo laptop with IPS. If Apple made a new 16' one next year without the f notch, maybe I will go over for a miniled display (and live with the blooming).
Thanks man for the review and internals showoff. Would you recommend the T14s over the T14? I dont get what the "s" means these days... it seems weaker in all concerns. Single heatpipe, sodered RAM, no Ethernet, not much better battery... am I missing something? Why is the T14s 100 bucks higher in price?
quieter, bigger battery, longer battery life up to 11-12h browsing according to notebookcheck, 1mm thinner, 1 more thunderbolt 4 usb c instead of just 1
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Nice Thinkpad review as usual !!! Which model is quieter? This t14 or the e14 gen 5 you reviewed a couple of month ago? I am looking for a very quiet thinkpad. Thanks!!
I am stuck between T14 and Macbook air M2, I am confused, I can't decide what to buy, what do you think I should buy, I am interested in the volunteer system and sometimes I run docker, do you recommend T14? How long does the charging time last?
Those are such different systems especially because Mac looks run Mac OS. macOS can be nice, as it’s simplistic and steam light, but at the same time you can also be extremely limiting depending on what software you need to personally I can’t even run my software and Mac OS If you’re looking for something that will offer Mac like design and battery life, your battery off looking for the slim seven, or yoga lineup from Lenovo. With AMD Or if this 15 inch size is OK you can look at the Lenovo slim 7i or a addition with the new lunar lake chip. As it will offer incredibly good battery life. I have a review on it recently
@@TechGuyBeau Actually, Macbook products have been around for many years for those looking for a regular device, but now I think their prices are unnecessarily high. That's why I'm looking at this computer, but I'm curious about how well it performs. Lenovo Thinkpad T14 Gen 4 I7-1370P 32GB 1tb SSD 4gb MX550 (21HD00ECTX) I would be very happy if you could help me.
Hey, you are doing great job with these videos. I was wondering why getting the Thinkpad T-series, when I can get E or L series with same spec for half the price. If I get only the better screen and everything else same, I think there is no point getting T series. What is your opinion on that?
Nice video Beau. So for low requirement games (like counter strike or dota) which one should I buy, the p14s with rtx a500 or the t14s with integrated amd 780m. Thanks!
So, its very interesting to compare glossy level with other oleds panels (smthg like ideapad/yoga glossy oleds). And how about PWM on this screen, on low brightness? What about eye strain?
I'd go for the P14s Gen 4 AMD for slightly better peformance (tdp limit / profile) and the option for 64GB RAM. Everything else is identical. Sometimes they even have the same price! You'd also get the pro drivers and ISV certification if that matters for you.
@@moviestar5883 I think it's in the sweetspot of thickness to performance. It isn't an ultralight, so don't expect that. But it isn't too bulky, it is still suitable for a student or someone on the move.
Ok the right is a XG mobile for an ROG ally. On the left I have an Acasis, usb 4 one. A dock I use regularly is by Yottamaster. I have a video on it. I have a SECOND review of a new Model coming tomrorow. If you are subbed you’ll see my next video as my primary dock
Thanks for the great review. I am considering to buy a T14s with the same AMD processor as yours. Do you think there's a big difference in fan noise between the T14 and the T14s?
I have the T14s AMD gen 4 and rarely have audible fan noise even when connected to 3 external monitors via dock. The machine is practically silent in everyday use.
Are the OLED panels in the t14 and p14s identical or do they differ in quality, given the OLED panel on p14s comes factory color calibrated? Also, do they employ different panel manufacturers?
@@TechGuyBeau Thanks for checking up! I just hope neither of the panels have any sort of cloudy streaks across them on certain parts when they're turned off. It's 'cause of the matte coating. There have been accounts of people with this sort of issue on their units. Here's an example: ua-cam.com/video/Fd8FnPmG0JY/v-deo.html On another note, will you be reviewing their larger 16" counterparts anytime soon, or at all?
The T14 gen 4 and P14s gen 4 use the same panels between the two lines, however the panels are sourced from different manufacturers (ex. CSOT, AUO, etc.) but they are all interchangeable, i.e. - the panels used in the T14 can be used in the P14s and vice versa. I have done many panel swaps in that regard.
I am looking for a business and casual gaming laptop . I will play gta v roleplay. What do you recommend? Not have to be lenovo. I was just wondering what you recommend.
This should do just fine. The graphics capabilities are the same as an ROG ally or Legion go, which are dedicated gaming handheld. Assuming you are OK with a little bit lower settings you can get very good performance in games
Nice laptop. I like the Lenovo T14 feel and keyboard. Minor correction to this video: HDMI 2.1 supports 4k with 120hz refresh rate and 8k with 60hz refresh rate monitors.
It’s not always the case. A lot of the times that I tested it it doesn’t work, the SSD would have to be waitlisted from Lenovo. So it’s kind of a shot in the dark. If you do want to try that make sure you check out some forms and see if other people have tried it
@TechGuyBeau man I hate the whitelisting crap, especially for an ssd. They also do the whitelist for wifi and wwan cards, it irks my nerve I can't stick a 5G wwan card into my thinkpad. I guess for the wwan card, it's more valid with the whole radiation thing and having to be certified.
Thanks for the great review, especially those games demo, but I think OLED is little bit over killing for the small screen device. I still thinking on getting T14s or T14 AMD Gen 4. Could you please provide some opinion on this?? Thank you.
True - high resolutions are not really needed on small screens since everything will be so tiny you can't even see it. OLED also drains the battery way faster. I'm wondering about longevity considering potential burn-in.
There are several reasons you may prefer a T14 over T14s such as better thermals due to slightly thicker chassis, an rj-45 jack and easily swappable keyboard. However to your point, the T14s offers a more premium feel and build quality due to the materials used, so there's always trade-offs.
i got the p14s gen 4 amd with the same processor but decided to go for the low energy panel display because i don't need OLED for my work (programming). i prefer having better battery efficiency. but idk my thinkpad is overheating so fast and the fans don't stop spinning... kinda disappointed
Any update about this issue that you were facing? How old is your laotop? Good choice of picking IPS over OLED! Its indeed better screen but low battery life and pwm screen flickering issue are deal breakers.
@@arpit9163 Can't really give an update on that, because I use it to rarely right now. It's like 2 or 3 months old. And I still experience overheating and crazy fans on it. I don't know why.. Maybe it's the integrated graphics card? Or 1 fan is not enough? I didn't do any troubleshooting/research yet. But tbh because of that I can't recommend the laptop to anyone. It's kinda annoying and not something you expect for a laptop that costs over 1000 euro.
@@TechGuyBeau thank you, im wondering to buy a lenovo p14s amd version. i found a change, t14 has absolute bios (that i not like too much) Thanks for the review
@@TechGuyBeau Actually I just checked here (netherlands) and there is a T16 OLED option config (AMD) .. Im kinda afraid to buy into an OLED laptop tho, because text / color fringing and im a developer, also not sure about burn-in Also I commented on another video of you asking for recommendation lol, thanks again
the only good thing about these new thinkpads is the 16:10 screen every other thing is dogshit - the keyboard the color the hinges the soldered ram and wifi card, everything
Had this exact model and specification in my cart for the last 2 days. Was about to make a purchase and found out the deal is gone 🥲. Does anyone have an idea of how to get the deal back? If I contact their sales team will I be able to get the deal again. Help Me Please!?!? Any advice would be appreciated
@@ihartmacz Yh thanks. I realised a few days later and placed an order. Unfortunately the shipping has been delayed quite a bit so I'm still waiting for it to be shipped. Original estimated delivery date was today !😕😕
Great review. Once you go oled you will never want to go back. The legion slim 5 oled blew me away and changed my opinions and thoughts on all laptops. I honestly think Lenovo is putting out the best quality right now out any other laptop manufacture. It’s also awesome to see the ThinkPad line still alive. My first ever laptop was an old ibm thinkpad with a pentium 1 lol.
don't OLED screens only last for like 3 years
Thank you for the review. I'm just wondering if OLED has any downsides? Do you find the battery life of the OLED screen version, shorter than IPS screen versions (above 10 hours)? Also, how do you find it on your eyes (Some say it is less blue light and better for eyes, while others say OLED makes eyes more tired)?
Good question
With the Gen 3 model the battery life went down from 12-13 hours in practical use to 3-4 hours with the OLED panel in comparison to the 1080p low-power LCD screen.
@@sl2148 Hardly anymore. Your probably has OLED. See any burn ins?
@@CptMacaroni oled also uses more battery ive heard
@@tmoehle2342 That's absolutely cooked lol
As a non-techie (who lives in a cave) your Thinkpad videos have been my main intro to the brand and this famous line. The reliability was the main draw for me but the more I learn the more I like, especially the enhanced repairability of the new Gen 5 T14 in partnership with iFixit.
PWM keeps me thinking whether I should go for an OLED. The beautiful colors and deep blacks and lack of backlight bleeding are all nice, but of what use if the low-light vibration causes eye strain after a couple of hours.
Same
what did you end up getting, im in the same boat
@@Burbanana Nothing yet, still on my 5yo laptop with IPS. If Apple made a new 16' one next year without the f notch, maybe I will go over for a miniled display (and live with the blooming).
@@szaboaz im looking at the snapdragon laptops now, surface laptop looks great
Thanks man for the review and internals showoff. Would you recommend the T14s over the T14? I dont get what the "s" means these days... it seems weaker in all concerns. Single heatpipe, sodered RAM, no Ethernet, not much better battery... am I missing something? Why is the T14s 100 bucks higher in price?
quieter, bigger battery, longer battery life up to 11-12h browsing according to notebookcheck, 1mm thinner, 1 more thunderbolt 4 usb c instead of just 1
Nice Thinkpad review as usual !!! Which model is quieter? This t14 or the e14 gen 5 you reviewed a couple of month ago? I am looking for a very quiet thinkpad. Thanks!!
The t14 runs super quiet due to the large fan
The p14s is not as quiet as T14 with AMD?@@TechGuyBeau
I am stuck between T14 and Macbook air M2, I am confused, I can't decide what to buy, what do you think I should buy, I am interested in the volunteer system and sometimes I run docker, do you recommend T14?
How long does the charging time last?
Those are such different systems especially because Mac looks run Mac OS. macOS can be nice, as it’s simplistic and steam light, but at the same time you can also be extremely limiting depending on what software you need to personally I can’t even run my software and Mac OS
If you’re looking for something that will offer Mac like design and battery life, your battery off looking for the slim seven, or yoga lineup from Lenovo. With AMD
Or if this 15 inch size is OK you can look at the Lenovo slim 7i or a addition with the new lunar lake chip. As it will offer incredibly good battery life. I have a review on it recently
@@TechGuyBeau Actually, Macbook products have been around for many years for those looking for a regular device, but now I think their prices are unnecessarily high. That's why I'm looking at this computer, but I'm curious about how well it performs.
Lenovo Thinkpad T14 Gen 4 I7-1370P 32GB 1tb SSD 4gb MX550 (21HD00ECTX)
I would be very happy if you could help me.
The title and into talk about the T14, but then when you show the Lenovo website, you show the T14s. The T14 and T14s are subtly different machines.
He has the t14 based on the underneath vents the t14 usually has more vents on the underside
Hey, you are doing great job with these videos. I was wondering why getting the Thinkpad T-series, when I can get E or L series with same spec for half the price. If I get only the better screen and everything else same, I think there is no point getting T series. What is your opinion on that?
Great review!
Nice video Beau. So for low requirement games (like counter strike or dota) which one should I buy, the p14s with rtx a500 or the t14s with integrated amd 780m. Thanks!
The AMD will have better battery, but the Intel with a500 is simply a more powerful gpu.
So, its very interesting to compare glossy level with other oleds panels (smthg like ideapad/yoga glossy oleds). And how about PWM on this screen, on low brightness? What about eye strain?
Great review~ Do you know the refresh rate for this OLED panel? If it's 90 or 120Hz would be an amazing deal. Thanks!
60hz only. That’s the primary negative. If you want high refresh from Lenovo it’s present on their legion slim 5 and some others
There's so much space inside for a much large battery
I'd go for the P14s Gen 4 AMD for slightly better peformance (tdp limit / profile) and the option for 64GB RAM. Everything else is identical. Sometimes they even have the same price!
You'd also get the pro drivers and ISV certification if that matters for you.
I am planning to get the same. Currently using T470s. Is it bulky for a 14-inch? If you can share your experience that would be great.
@@moviestar5883 I think it's in the sweetspot of thickness to performance. It isn't an ultralight, so don't expect that. But it isn't too bulky, it is still suitable for a student or someone on the move.
I have the same/similar laptop p14s gen 4, with same specs. When connected to 2 external monitors fans are just going crazy.
This is not good news!
Perhaps the T14 model is quieter because it's thicker than the T14s?
Also, what is that dock you have there? That's one thing I find hard to choose. Thanks!
Ok the right is a XG mobile for an ROG ally. On the left I have an Acasis, usb 4 one.
A dock I use regularly is by Yottamaster. I have a video on it. I have a SECOND review of a new Model coming tomrorow. If you are subbed you’ll see my next video as my primary dock
@@TechGuyBeau Ofcourse, I'm subbed. Great channel btw! Too bad the model of the Thinkpads are not available at the moment. :)
Thanks for the great review. I am considering to buy a T14s with the same AMD processor as yours. Do you think there's a big difference in fan noise between the T14 and the T14s?
Read comment above yours - someone else with the T14s model says the fans spin like crazy when connected to external monitors.
I have the T14s AMD gen 4 and rarely have audible fan noise even when connected to 3 external monitors via dock. The machine is practically silent in everyday use.
The OLED screen is really tempting... how much of an inpact is there on battery compared to the "good" 400 nits 1200p screen?
Probably not as much as you think. It’s higher res but black pixels are “off”, so dark mode can save a lot of battery.
Are the OLED panels in the t14 and p14s identical or do they differ in quality, given the OLED panel on p14s comes factory color calibrated? Also, do they employ different panel manufacturers?
They look identical to me. I couldn’t tell any difference at all
@@TechGuyBeau Thanks for checking up! I just hope neither of the panels have any sort of cloudy streaks across them on certain parts when they're turned off. It's 'cause of the matte coating. There have been accounts of people with this sort of issue on their units.
Here's an example: ua-cam.com/video/Fd8FnPmG0JY/v-deo.html
On another note, will you be reviewing their larger 16" counterparts anytime soon, or at all?
The T14 gen 4 and P14s gen 4 use the same panels between the two lines, however the panels are sourced from different manufacturers (ex. CSOT, AUO, etc.) but they are all interchangeable, i.e. - the panels used in the T14 can be used in the P14s and vice versa. I have done many panel swaps in that regard.
I am looking for a business and casual gaming laptop . I will play gta v roleplay. What do you recommend? Not have to be lenovo. I was just wondering what you recommend.
This should do just fine. The graphics capabilities are the same as an ROG ally or Legion go, which are dedicated gaming handheld. Assuming you are OK with a little bit lower settings you can get very good performance in games
Nice laptop. I like the Lenovo T14 feel and keyboard.
Minor correction to this video: HDMI 2.1 supports 4k with 120hz refresh rate and 8k with 60hz refresh rate monitors.
The lack of an SD card port is dissapointing
Love mine - running a dual-boot system.
Nice. Linux and windows?
@@TechGuyBeau Yes - decided on Ubuntu /Zorin flavor - stability being a must.
I believe you can use the wwan slot for a small ssd
It’s not always the case. A lot of the times that I tested it it doesn’t work, the SSD would have to be waitlisted from Lenovo. So it’s kind of a shot in the dark. If you do want to try that make sure you check out some forms and see if other people have tried it
@TechGuyBeau man I hate the whitelisting crap, especially for an ssd. They also do the whitelist for wifi and wwan cards, it irks my nerve I can't stick a 5G wwan card into my thinkpad. I guess for the wwan card, it's more valid with the whole radiation thing and having to be certified.
I hate how the touch version of the OLED is only available on the X1 Yoga, which uses an Intel cpu. I'd love a touch OLED w/ an AMD
10:58 You could see speakers as black plastic bar above the motherboard))
I wonder what was the logic behind swapping the control and the fn keys....
its the same for every lenovo thinkpad, i dont know why,
but its strange when I change to other keyboards :D
Thanks for the great review, especially those games demo, but I think OLED is little bit over killing for the small screen device. I still thinking on getting T14s or T14 AMD Gen 4. Could you please provide some opinion on this?? Thank you.
True - high resolutions are not really needed on small screens since everything will be so tiny you can't even see it.
OLED also drains the battery way faster. I'm wondering about longevity considering potential burn-in.
Is that single channel soldered ram? Aren't these supposed to come with 1 soldered and 1 dimm slot to enable dual-channel mode?
No. It is quad channel soldered ram
@@TechGuyBeau Yes. Must be. They must have soldered onto the other side of the mainboard. All four of them.
Possible to run Destiny 2 on it, please? It's a free download -- for the FPS?
Does it have windows hello?
Why wouldn't you go for the T14s? The s is literally better in every way compared to the standard T14.
Pricing :)
I paid like 780 USD for this (in Canada)
There are several reasons you may prefer a T14 over T14s such as better thermals due to slightly thicker chassis, an rj-45 jack and easily swappable keyboard. However to your point, the T14s offers a more premium feel and build quality due to the materials used, so there's always trade-offs.
I can now game at work in disguise
i got the p14s gen 4 amd with the same processor but decided to go for the low energy panel display because i don't need OLED for my work (programming). i prefer having better battery efficiency. but idk my thinkpad is overheating so fast and the fans don't stop spinning... kinda disappointed
Any update about this issue that you were facing? How old is your laotop?
Good choice of picking IPS over OLED! Its indeed better screen but low battery life and pwm screen flickering issue are deal breakers.
@@arpit9163 Can't really give an update on that, because I use it to rarely right now. It's like 2 or 3 months old. And I still experience overheating and crazy fans on it. I don't know why.. Maybe it's the integrated graphics card? Or 1 fan is not enough? I didn't do any troubleshooting/research yet. But tbh because of that I can't recommend the laptop to anyone. It's kinda annoying and not something you expect for a laptop that costs over 1000 euro.
what are the real changes between T14 gen 4 and P14s gen 4?
a tiny bit of weight. almost nothing
@@TechGuyBeau thank you, im wondering to buy a lenovo p14s amd version. i found a change, t14 has absolute bios (that i not like too much)
Thanks for the review
I'm a bit disappointed to see the battery life estimation. I was hoping for something like 10 hours of light use, perhaps 7 hours of video playback.
It's probably because he picked the oled model
I wonder if that oled would survive my long hours of excel...
I dont think so.
If you do a lot of static excel I’d probably avoid an OLED yeah.
Has anyone replaced the stock full HD panel to the 2.8K Oled? Can't find the panel or the 40 pin cable
so sad there is no 15/16 inch
There is but no OLED option :(
@@TechGuyBeau Actually I just checked here (netherlands) and there is a T16 OLED option config (AMD) .. Im kinda afraid to buy into an OLED laptop tho, because text / color fringing and im a developer, also not sure about burn-in
Also I commented on another video of you asking for recommendation lol, thanks again
the only good thing about these new thinkpads is the 16:10 screen every other thing is dogshit - the keyboard the color the hinges the soldered ram and wifi card, everything
It sucks. Period.
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@@TechGuyBeauThinkpads used to be the perfect design in every aspect all the way up to T61, then suddenly everything about it became crap.
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PWM up the wazzzzou,
At least MBP has 13k hz PWM but this thing has 200HZ, terrible.
Had this exact model and specification in my cart for the last 2 days. Was about to make a purchase and found out the deal is gone 🥲. Does anyone have an idea of how to get the deal back? If I contact their sales team will I be able to get the deal again. Help Me Please!?!? Any advice would be appreciated
It was back for the t14s last week
sale is back!
@@ihartmacz Yh thanks. I realised a few days later and placed an order. Unfortunately the shipping has been delayed quite a bit so I'm still waiting for it to be shipped. Original estimated delivery date was today !😕😕