Being the youngest mvp gets you in. Tmac is in the hall...for what? 0 mvps.. 0 rookie of year...just 1 more all nba 1st team than Rose....WITH 0 PLAYOFF VICTORIES....till he rode the Spurs bench Plus the basketball HOF is way easier to get in than MLB//NFL
T-Mac had 2 scoring titles, 13 points in 33 seconds, global impact (partly due to being Yao's teammate). Rose peak wasn't long enough, he had 2 good seasons and the rest of the time he was an injury prone role player
@MyronZhao winning mvp means u had a great season not just good. Tmac also blew a 3-1 series lead. Rose didn't need another player to help his impact internationally or otherwise 1 mvp and actually winning more than 0 playoffs series>>2 scoring titles Game winning playoff buzzer beater>>>13 pts in 20 seconds to win a reg season game
@@andrewmyers3520 That peak lasted for one season. Rose got one all-NBA selection for his career. It's not called The Seasonal Hall of Fame. Rose has no business getting in.
Very very borderline. He has nothing else except his MVP. No scoring titles, no Finals appearances, nothing. Even Bill Walton a guy who won MVP and didn't play much, at least had 2 rings and a FMVP too.
Giannis won the regular season MVP two seasons before he won the championship. Same thing with Jokic. So, unlike what Dan claimed, they didn't have massive post season success before they won MVP-awards.
Who cares about HOF. His mvp year alone was something that most of these hof's total careers together can't match. The impact he made and the fan base he has. Derrick is a Chicago legend. He is Chicago. Youngest MVP and no one could've f with him. What he expreienced with his body and all, his perseverance and mental strength. Waaay above any HOF debate. He won in life.
I loved watching D-Rose in Chicago and New York as a Chicagoan, but I say no. Injuries hurt his case, and, even when healthy, he fell short of reaching 15,000 career points and 5,000 assists -- point guard career benchmarks. Sadly, not enough All-NBA First Team selections -- just one and nothing lower in ranks -- for consistent greatness. Having 3 is a miracle. He was entertaining though.
@@busup377 Vince greatest dunker of all time, only player so far to play in 4 different decades and play 22 seasons. Was a franchise player for over half his career. Has multiple franchise and nba records.
I’m an old school bulls fan and I love DRose but he isn’t a hall of famer. His peak was only like 3 or 4 years then he started getting injured. This goes back to people who argue there should be a basketball hall of fame and a nba hall of fame. DRose would make the basketball hall of fame.
Rose won an MVP and ROTY and They have T-Mac and Vince Carter in the Hall of Fame so I’m pretty sure he’s a hall of famer he’s accomplished enough in my opinion to get in so for that he has secured spot in the hall of fame no doubt
Dan is tripping - he is one of the most transcendent players to ever lace them up. If you weren't in awe of Derrick Rose his first 4 years in the league then you don't know hoops. His injuries also occurred while the NBA was transitioning into being a 3 point contest league which further diminished his value and minutes with each passing year.
Is this a serious question? The Hall of Fame is for elite players that demonstrated consistent greatness over a long career. Delicate Rose does not even come close to Allen Iverson, John Stockton, Tony Parker, Derek Fisher, etc. Rose needed to win at least 1 6th Man of the Year award, he didnt get it.
He probably will eventually. The Basketball Hall of Fame has always given a lot of credit to peak talent, especially if the short peak is due to injury (though they have come around even in cases where the career decline was due to drugs or other personality/character reasons). So it won't be immediately, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens 10-20 years down the line.
The Gale Sayers of the NBA, minis the comparison of the number of years played…I’m talking in terms of, what could’ve been if they never got hurt?? They were well on their way to being the best ever at their position…and it’s funny how you guys just mentioned Sayers because as I was typing this I did not know he’d be mentioned. What I’m saying is, at their peak, they already had the talents of being the best ever at their position, injury or not..they possessed that much talent..so to me? He gets in the Basketbal HOF.
I don't see anybody in the hof being able to stop DRose.. He could make any kind of shot around the basketball. His one foot floater was jus as high as Kareem's skyhook
It's not an NBA HOF though, it's the Naismith Basketball HOF. That's why you see a bunch of different guys. They also take into account everything you've done, from prep to pros
@@Fernando_616 "It's not an NBA HOF though, it's the Naismith Basketball HOF. That's why you see a bunch of different guys. They also take into account everything you've done, from prep to pros" There's players like Tim Hardaway in the Hall. I don't think his college career warrants him a position in the Hall. His NBA career definitely shouldn't warrant a position. He was a bench player for the 2000 olympic team. I don't think that gold medal automatically should warrant a position. Then there's players like Tracy McGrady in the Hall, who don't have olympic medals, and didn't play college ball at all. I think the emphasis should be on the success at the highest level, which mostly means the NBA.
This whole "Is Drose a hall of famer ?" debate is sooo stupid to me. D rose isnt even just a famous ball player who was great. D rose is a fucking basketball LEGEND. And its not even just for STILL being the youngest ever to win MVP. But you definitely fucking start there.
I’m guessing he’ll eventually get in But he won’t be a first ballot hofer probably gonna get in when the pool to choose from is a bit thin as there have been in the past where an yeah he’s alright got in as there’s not much other option
2 ways to get in any hall of fame have a long very good to great career and accumulate counting stats these players usually dont have very high peaks but there long consistency gets them in allstar caliber for atleast 5 years and above average another 5-10 years 2nd is have a extremly high peak and be a truly elite player for 5 years follwed by 5 years of above average to good play these players are superstar caliber for 5+ years and although they dont have the longevity they make up for ut with being one of the elite players of there era oh the third way is just dont die or hell die dead players are put in ltonthe hall of fame all the time
Grant Hill has a much better case for the hall than Rose. He did still make an all star team in Orlando after all of his major injuries, and at age 35-38 played almost every game of those seasons as a valuable roleplayer on a contender. Rose won't even play a game past age 35. And of course his college accomplishments were infinitely better. Grant has simply had a much better career.
T-Mac was selected onto 7 all-NBA and 7 all-star teams. Rose to 3 all-star teams and 1 all-NBA team. Neither one should get into the Hall, but T-Mac had the better case.
Stop it! He’s a no brainer HoFer. Yao Ming - never close to MVP caliber - is in HoF. DRose was the most exciting player in the league when Kobe, Lebron, DWade, Shaq, etc. were in their prime. He’s like the Gale Sayers of the NBA, ironically both from the Chi. They both shined so brightly in those early years before suffering devastating injuries. You can’t deny their greatness. Dan Patrick can be very shady. Since when does vacated college wins influence a players NBA - or any pro league - legacy? He also said some garbage about Caitlyn Clark should be considered wnba mvp over Aja Wilson bc CC brought more fans to their league. For him to be around as long as he has, his views sometimes are asinine. Maybe he spews these controversial views for views, clicks, hot takes. I guess that’s what they all are after these days.
"Stop it! He’s a no brainer HoFer. Yao Ming - never close to MVP caliber - is in HoF." Yao made an all-NBA team five times. Rose made one. And it's a more difficult journey for somebody who's chinese to make it. "DRose was the most exciting player in the league when Kobe, Lebron, DWade, Shaq, etc. were in their prime." Being exciting sure shouldn't get you to the Hall. "You can’t deny their greatness." Rose played one great season in his career. That's quite literally not great.
remember this also includes college hoops too and Grant was a beast in college. Went to NCAA championship game 3 out of his 4 years with 2 titles and was THAT dude in college.
Many ROY-winners are in. Not that it should have any significance. Rose's MVP is an example of the MVP-award partially being a team award. That's why it shouldn't automatically grant a pass to the Hall.
He is retiring give hint his flowers what does Memphis have to do with anything, seem really tone deaf to the impact of D Rose in stead of that play a clip of Lebron’s take on DRose and then talk HOF
Not at all. Outside of the year he won the mvp what has u done that consider him to be in the hof. I mean come on really now. Has he led the league in anything? Just the youngest mvp in NBA history and thats it honestly. Wasnt nowhere near the same after the injuries
He should be in the Hall. The guy averaged over 17ppg over his career and averaged double figure scoring on 12 of his 16 year career. His body of work with the Bulls and the MVP would be good enough for the HOF. Outside of Jordan, he is probably the best guard in Bulls history. Notwithstanding the controversy in the NCAA, he did pretty well in his 1 year with the U of Memphis, leading the team to the championship game. He was a 2-time gold medalist in the FIBA Worlds too.
A big bunch of players in the basketball Hall of Fame weren't worthy of the induction. And D-Rose definitely isn't worthy. The induction policy should be more strict. Best point guard of all time? He wasn't the best point guard in the league, when he won the MVP.
Dan asked the question, as if he were over the Hall. Everyone already knows every nba Mvp has, they in the hall, 👉🏾 AUTOMATIC, NO QUESTIONS so y are we dealing with Dan's question. Just wrong people asking dumb questions that's all
@@TheIcemanthomas MVP is the he biggest Individual accolade a player can attain. Rose did more than that though... He was RoY, first team all NBA, 3x all star... And more.
@@Buzz_Kill71 Much of Rose's MVP was due to his team's winning record. He was arguably not a top-10 player in the league. Definitely not the best point guard. And that's for his best and only great season.
best year was when he was 22 and won the mvp. thats it. but i put him in for all the money he got from addidas from his shoe contract when he was barely playing. his bust should come with a ski mask.
No, but the Chauncey Billups got in so why not. People are romanticizing his career but for three-four years he was the laughing stock of social media getting memed for having knees like light bulbs
@@gtizzle7606 Playing a good final series versus a 40 year old GP isn't leading the Pistons to the championship. He definitely wasn't the best player on the team. Possibly not top-3. He probably wasn't a top-10 player in the league for any season. He shouldn't be in the Hall.
@@penkima4923 he was a clutch player the whole year hence the name mr. big shot. No one else on that team is runnin the point as effectively as he did. He may not have been the best player but he was the most clutch. The Lakers were supposed to win that series and they got steamrolled.
Like Yao, HOF looks at Prime. Rose will get in because he was the best PG in the league in his Prime.
he won't get in.
Being the youngest mvp gets you in. Tmac is in the hall...for what? 0 mvps.. 0 rookie of year...just 1 more all nba 1st team than Rose....WITH 0 PLAYOFF VICTORIES....till he rode the Spurs bench
Plus the basketball HOF is way easier to get in than MLB//NFL
T-Mac had 2 scoring titles, 13 points in 33 seconds, global impact (partly due to being Yao's teammate). Rose peak wasn't long enough, he had 2 good seasons and the rest of the time he was an injury prone role player
@MyronZhao winning mvp means u had a great season not just good. Tmac also blew a 3-1 series lead. Rose didn't need another player to help his impact internationally or otherwise
1 mvp and actually winning more than 0 playoffs series>>2 scoring titles
Game winning playoff buzzer beater>>>13 pts in 20 seconds to win a reg season game
We're going by 1st team now? 😂
Rose had a higher peak but let's not get carried away. He got injured and didn't have a long enough career for a hof
@beastmry i guess so since tmac got in with his 2.
Every nba mvp has got in. Rose will be no different. Just not 1st ballot probably.
@@MrJ1Severy mvp that has gotten it played longer or accomplished more. And mvp is NOT a safe bet for the hof by itself. And mvp is ONE season.
They let anyone in the Basketball Hall of Fame. Because of that, they will probably put him in..
He should make it. His peak was so high.
Not really. It was really good. But statistically it wasn’t anything special
@@TheIcemanthomas you’re trippin
@@andrewmyers3520 That peak lasted for one season. Rose got one all-NBA selection for his career. It's not called The Seasonal Hall of Fame. Rose has no business getting in.
Can you tell the story of Basketball without mentioning a player, well in 2011 you can't, he's 100% in, first ballot HOF
Very very borderline. He has nothing else except his MVP. No scoring titles, no Finals appearances, nothing. Even Bill Walton a guy who won MVP and didn't play much, at least had 2 rings and a FMVP too.
Rose has 2 golds, a great college year as well. Also, Walton is arguably the best college player ever, so he didn’t need anything in the NBA to get in
He was way better than JA morant
Yea. He is more accomplished than a lot of guys in the Hall
Giannis won the regular season MVP two seasons before he won the championship. Same thing with Jokic. So, unlike what Dan claimed, they didn't have massive post season success before they won MVP-awards.
Absolutely without a doubt. People forget sometimes it’s more than accolades it’s the impact left on the game and the people the fans. D🌹 is a legend.
It sometimes is about the impact? Really? Regarding which players, to be precise?
@@penkima4923 d rose melo t mac all great players who didn’t win a ring but their game will never be emulated ever again hence their impact
@@hijoseph100 If their game won't be emulated, then doesn't that mean they had no impact on younger generations?
@@penkima4923 but they do though lol young ballers know about them greats and love them
Who cares about HOF. His mvp year alone was something that most of these hof's total careers together can't match. The impact he made and the fan base he has. Derrick is a Chicago legend. He is Chicago. Youngest MVP and no one could've f with him. What he expreienced with his body and all, his perseverance and mental strength. Waaay above any HOF debate. He won in life.
I loved watching D-Rose in Chicago and New York as a Chicagoan, but I say no. Injuries hurt his case, and, even when healthy, he fell short of reaching 15,000 career points and 5,000 assists -- point guard career benchmarks.
Sadly, not enough All-NBA First Team selections -- just one and nothing lower in ranks -- for consistent greatness. Having 3 is a miracle. He was entertaining though.
I think he might have made it if he had some 6th man awards, but even as a role player he kept getting injured
Could you explain how Vince and grant get in
@@busup377 Vince greatest dunker of all time, only player so far to play in 4 different decades and play 22 seasons. Was a franchise player for over half his career. Has multiple franchise and nba records.
@@MyronZhaoVince is a good role player.
I’m an old school bulls fan and I love DRose but he isn’t a hall of famer. His peak was only like 3 or 4 years then he started getting injured. This goes back to people who argue there should be a basketball hall of fame and a nba hall of fame. DRose would make the basketball hall of fame.
Rose won an MVP and ROTY and They have T-Mac and Vince Carter in the Hall of Fame so I’m pretty sure he’s a hall of famer he’s accomplished enough in my opinion to get in so for that he has secured spot in the hall of fame no doubt
Dan is tripping - he is one of the most transcendent players to ever lace them up. If you weren't in awe of Derrick Rose his first 4 years in the league then you don't know hoops. His injuries also occurred while the NBA was transitioning into being a 3 point contest league which further diminished his value and minutes with each passing year.
Yes! Everyone should be in the Hall Of Fame!! Should just call it the HALL OF PARTICIPATION! No hurt feelings that way.
NO. He is not.
BUT Chicago Bulls must put his jersey in the rafters.
If tmac is he Definitely should
Is this a serious question? The Hall of Fame is for elite players that demonstrated consistent greatness over a long career. Delicate Rose does not even come close to Allen Iverson, John Stockton, Tony Parker, Derek Fisher, etc. Rose needed to win at least 1 6th Man of the Year award, he didnt get it.
He is absolutely going in hof.
He probably will eventually. The Basketball Hall of Fame has always given a lot of credit to peak talent, especially if the short peak is due to injury (though they have come around even in cases where the career decline was due to drugs or other personality/character reasons). So it won't be immediately, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happens 10-20 years down the line.
Derrick rose is 100% gonna be in the hof
they have him at a 10% chance of making it lol
@@MyronZhaoEven that seems high to me, honestly...but it's at least in the expected ballpark.
All we can do is hope he doesn't get in.
Yes Dan..so is Grant..B.Roy...if TMac isnt in TMac..and whoever else in the past wouldve been great before inquires..i mean great not good
Ja Morant has never been on Rose level...MVP..ECF appearance
The Gale Sayers of the NBA, minis the comparison of the number of years played…I’m talking in terms of, what could’ve been if they never got hurt?? They were well on their way to being the best ever at their position…and it’s funny how you guys just mentioned Sayers because as I was typing this I did not know he’d be mentioned.
What I’m saying is, at their peak, they already had the talents of being the best ever at their position, injury or not..they possessed that much talent..so to me? He gets in the Basketbal HOF.
Mario chalmers with that shot against Memphis 😮
And Memphis not being able to make free throws.
I don't see anybody in the hof being able to stop DRose.. He could make any kind of shot around the basketball. His one foot floater was jus as high as Kareem's skyhook
He’s the youngest MVP in NBA history. One of the most popular players of all time. He gets in the Hall. I’d bet my right kneecap he gets in the HOF
Who cares? It's already diluted to the hall of very good.
It's not an NBA HOF though, it's the Naismith Basketball HOF. That's why you see a bunch of different guys. They also take into account everything you've done, from prep to pros
If its that diluted, why aren't you in basketball hall of fame
@@Fernando_616 "It's not an NBA HOF though, it's the Naismith Basketball HOF. That's why you see a bunch of different guys. They also take into account everything you've done, from prep to pros"
There's players like Tim Hardaway in the Hall. I don't think his college career warrants him a position in the Hall. His NBA career definitely shouldn't warrant a position. He was a bench player for the 2000 olympic team. I don't think that gold medal automatically should warrant a position.
Then there's players like Tracy McGrady in the Hall, who don't have olympic medals, and didn't play college ball at all.
I think the emphasis should be on the success at the highest level, which mostly means the NBA.
This whole "Is Drose a hall of famer ?" debate is sooo stupid to me. D rose isnt even just a famous ball player who was great. D rose is a fucking basketball LEGEND. And its not even just for STILL being the youngest ever to win MVP. But you definitely fucking start there.
Yes
Marvs basketball knowledge is impressive he can go toe to toe with DP imo
Not even a question! 💯
Derrick Rose was waaay better than Ja Morant
I’m guessing he’ll eventually get in
But he won’t be a first ballot hofer probably gonna get in when the pool to choose from is a bit thin as there have been in the past where an yeah he’s alright got in as there’s not much other option
Gonna take a while but he getting in. Youngest MVP
How old he was is irrelevant
2 ways to get in any hall of fame have a long very good to great career and accumulate counting stats these players usually dont have very high peaks but there long consistency gets them in allstar caliber for atleast 5 years and above average another 5-10 years 2nd is have a extremly high peak and be a truly elite player for 5 years follwed by 5 years of above average to good play these players are superstar caliber for 5+ years and although they dont have the longevity they make up for ut with being one of the elite players of there era oh the third way is just dont die or hell die dead players are put in ltonthe hall of fame all the time
Grant Hill has a much better case for the hall than Rose. He did still make an all star team in Orlando after all of his major injuries, and at age 35-38 played almost every game of those seasons as a valuable roleplayer on a contender. Rose won't even play a game past age 35. And of course his college accomplishments were infinitely better. Grant has simply had a much better career.
Yes T Mac got in
Hell no
If t Mac get in first ballot so should d rose. I value a mvp award over 2 scoring titles
T-Mac was selected onto 7 all-NBA and 7 all-star teams. Rose to 3 all-star teams and 1 all-NBA team. Neither one should get into the Hall, but T-Mac had the better case.
I didn't even know he was still in the league!!! Derrick who?
Idk if he should be in the Hall of Fame but I think the Bulls should retire his jersey
Probably not first ballot but he'll get in eventually
D Rose definitely an HOF just on impact
Nah
Stop it! He’s a no brainer HoFer. Yao Ming - never close to MVP caliber - is in HoF. DRose was the most exciting player in the league when Kobe, Lebron, DWade, Shaq, etc. were in their prime. He’s like the Gale Sayers of the NBA, ironically both from the Chi. They both shined so brightly in those early years before suffering devastating injuries. You can’t deny their greatness.
Dan Patrick can be very shady. Since when does vacated college wins influence a players NBA - or any pro league - legacy? He also said some garbage about Caitlyn Clark should be considered wnba mvp over Aja Wilson bc CC brought more fans to their league. For him to be around as long as he has, his views sometimes are asinine. Maybe he spews these controversial views for views, clicks, hot takes. I guess that’s what they all are after these days.
"Stop it! He’s a no brainer HoFer. Yao Ming - never close to MVP caliber - is in HoF."
Yao made an all-NBA team five times. Rose made one. And it's a more difficult journey for somebody who's chinese to make it.
"DRose was the most exciting player in the league when Kobe, Lebron, DWade, Shaq, etc. were in their prime."
Being exciting sure shouldn't get you to the Hall.
"You can’t deny their greatness."
Rose played one great season in his career. That's quite literally not great.
Shaq was not in his prime in 2008 on
Yao Ming made it cause he is from China do you know how many people look up to Yao there?
If grant hill can get in with his injury’s first ballot so can rose.
remember this also includes college hoops too and Grant was a beast in college. Went to NCAA championship game 3 out of his 4 years with 2 titles and was THAT dude in college.
Based off who’s in? Easy he’s in
Who’s in that he has a better overall career than?
Sorey but he was BETTER than Ja Morant
If Tmac, Grant Hill and Yao Ming make it DRose is a LOCK….he won ROY & MVP. How many can make that claim that already in
Many ROY-winners are in. Not that it should have any significance.
Rose's MVP is an example of the MVP-award partially being a team award. That's why it shouldn't automatically grant a pass to the Hall.
He is retiring give hint his flowers what does Memphis have to do with anything, seem really tone deaf to the impact of D Rose in stead of that play a clip of Lebron’s take on DRose and then talk HOF
Not at all. Outside of the year he won the mvp what has u done that consider him to be in the hof. I mean come on really now. Has he led the league in anything? Just the youngest mvp in NBA history and thats it honestly. Wasnt nowhere near the same after the injuries
He should be in the Hall. The guy averaged over 17ppg over his career and averaged double figure scoring on 12 of his 16 year career. His body of work with the Bulls and the MVP would be good enough for the HOF. Outside of Jordan, he is probably the best guard in Bulls history. Notwithstanding the controversy in the NCAA, he did pretty well in his 1 year with the U of Memphis, leading the team to the championship game. He was a 2-time gold medalist in the FIBA Worlds too.
TELL ME HE’S NOT WORTHY OF THE HALL OF FAME. Best point guard of all time. I love Jordan but damn Rose is the man.. MUCH LOVE ROSE. D ROSE NATION. 💯😎
A big bunch of players in the basketball Hall of Fame weren't worthy of the induction. And D-Rose definitely isn't worthy. The induction policy should be more strict.
Best point guard of all time? He wasn't the best point guard in the league, when he won the MVP.
What!!! Bro you maybe you were sleep during his MVP season the fact even called it out himself during preseason of that year@@penkima4923
Maybe…
No. He is not. He was a popular name for a while but he didn't do anything significant
no . next subject. we keep it movin
Is this even a question? YES.
What MVP isn’t?
Obvious HOF. Absolutely.
If you have to ask the question, the answer is most likely no
Dan asked the question, as if he were over the Hall. Everyone already knows every nba Mvp has, they in the hall, 👉🏾 AUTOMATIC, NO QUESTIONS
so y are we dealing with Dan's question.
Just wrong people asking dumb questions that's all
If you win the MVP at some point in your career, you ARE a Hall of Famer.
That’s not how it works. U don’t get a career accolade on ONE great year. U need more. Hof is overall
@@TheIcemanthomas MVP is the he biggest Individual accolade a player can attain. Rose did more than that though... He was RoY, first team all NBA, 3x all star... And more.
@@Buzz_Kill71 Much of Rose's MVP was due to his team's winning record. He was arguably not a top-10 player in the league. Definitely not the best point guard. And that's for his best and only great season.
@@TheIcemanthomasusually but with magic Johnson he would made the hall of Fame of his rookie season won a title and was fmvp
@@penkima4923 NO... he was an MVP, 3x all-star and rookie of the year.....
Stop it!!!!! Absolutely not
Sorry Derrick but no. Absolutely not. You were fun to watch but that's it. I'm looking up his stats now. Mediocre.
If he gets in it will be because of a popularity vote
If you have to ask...its a no.
best year was when he was 22 and won the mvp. thats it. but i put him in for all the money he got from addidas from his shoe contract when he was barely playing. his bust should come with a ski mask.
NO. NO. NO
Yes
Then you would have to let penny hardaway in. rose does not get in
He's not a hall of famer
No.
Next question.
Yes
No
Yes
@@jfade8066 go write a hurt feelings report and send it to adam silverslipper, you gen z clown
@@jfade8066 no clown, go back to your gen z world in your home in mom's basement.
@@jfade8066 no clown, go back to your gen z world in your home in mom's basement.
Damn Dan Patrick is kinda a hater here for once. Memphis really? The kid was from Englewood.
He played college for Memphis and went to the National Championship vs Kansas. Englewood is the area of Chicago he grew up in.
😂😂😂. Nope. If he a Hall of famer Bronny a hall of famer right now 😂😂😂
Shhiid if Rose get in u gotta let my mans Brain Scalabrine in too. He got a ring
Overrated, but OK
No, but the Chauncey Billups got in so why not. People are romanticizing his career but for three-four years he was the laughing stock of social media getting memed for having knees like light bulbs
Billups won a chip
besides Billups leading the Pistons to the NBA championship, he was also the finals MVP.
@@gtizzle7606 Playing a good final series versus a 40 year old GP isn't leading the Pistons to the championship. He definitely wasn't the best player on the team. Possibly not top-3. He probably wasn't a top-10 player in the league for any season. He shouldn't be in the Hall.
@@penkima4923billups won finals mvp and led went to 7 straight conference final appearances bro wtf
@@penkima4923 he was a clutch player the whole year hence the name mr. big shot. No one else on that team is runnin the point as effectively as he did. He may not have been the best player but he was the most clutch. The Lakers were supposed to win that series and they got steamrolled.
Yes