What Does Salvation by Grace Through Faith Mean? | Episode 182

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  • @robertnieten7259
    @robertnieten7259 Місяць тому +6

    Great teaching ! I would like to point out three facts.
    1) As with all of Pauls' letters, Romans begins with the grreting,"..to the saints of..". Paul is addressing already saved believers.
    The only way they could have been saved before Paul wrote his letters is according to Acts 2:38.
    2) Salvation is about being born again ,and just as natural birth is the end result of a process, so is spiritual rebirth. Acts 2:38 is that process.
    3) Salvation is a free gift, but even a free gift must be recieved by us in order for it to be ours. Our English understanding of the word " recieve" is different than the original Greek of the new testaments definition.
    It is defined in the original language as " to take hold of". This requires effort on our part , not to "earn" the free gift ,but to make it something we now possess. We do this by our faith in action through obedience.
    When the woman with the blood issue told herself ," If i can just touch the hem of his garment i will be healed". She did so and Jesus told her," Your faith has made you whole."

  • @LarzGustafsson
    @LarzGustafsson Місяць тому +7

    Brilliant teaching!

  • @dreamarichards4972
    @dreamarichards4972 Місяць тому +2

    Another great Podcast! Superbly explained! God bless you Dr Bernard for sharing your wisdom and knowledge from God! I love these Podcasts. I always discuss Brother Bernard’s Podcasts with my family. I’m so happy that I had great parents who raised my siblings and me this way. And I raised my daughter this way. And believe me it works and it’s real! God bless!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @dadotts3375
    @dadotts3375 Місяць тому

    The analogy of the niagara Falls tight rope walker, that’s awesome! Perfect way to give example. ❤

  • @charlenewagoner9523
    @charlenewagoner9523 Місяць тому

    You explain this so good!! Thank you!! I had to watch it again..

  • @kennethbower-vu9hg
    @kennethbower-vu9hg Місяць тому

    Thank you for these episodes,, I love all of them,, very helpful.

  • @childofgod7023
    @childofgod7023 23 дні тому

    Well said!

  • @aallien
    @aallien Місяць тому +4

    Recommendation: cut the intro after the topic is introduced, in this case the cut would be at 28 seconds then go to the topic at 1:01.

  • @corneliofamily
    @corneliofamily Місяць тому +2

    Thank you Dr. Bernard. 🙏

  • @japhethhmar4630
    @japhethhmar4630 Місяць тому

    Thank you Dr. Bernard 👍👍

  • @j.b.h1221
    @j.b.h1221 Місяць тому

    I love these episodes❤❤❤

  • @Jay-777-p4p
    @Jay-777-p4p Місяць тому

    Amen, great teaching 👏🏼

  • @larrykapp3409
    @larrykapp3409 Місяць тому

    Listening, thanks

  • @stevenuzzell7980
    @stevenuzzell7980 Місяць тому +1

    Amen

  • @theesteady1
    @theesteady1 Місяць тому +1

    Works
    Old English, "(someone's) deeds, acts, or actions, the things one has done in life," often especially "good deeds, acts of piety, demonstrations of virtue," plural of work (n.). Meaning "operations pertinent to maintaining a large physical place" (private, religious, or municipal) is from late 14c. Meaning "industrial place" (usually with qualifying adjective) is from late 15c. To be in the works in the extended sense of "in the process of being done or made" is by 1973

  • @albertjohn2735
    @albertjohn2735 Місяць тому +1

    HALLUIAH AMEN. PRAISE JESUS'S..
    ACTS, 2 TILL 47. READING FROM REPENT N LET EVERYONE OF U BE BAPTISED IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS; U SHALL RECEIVED THE GIFT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. FOR THE PROMISED IS TO U, AND TO YOUR CHILDREN, AND TO ALL WHO ARE AFAR OFF, AS MANY AS THE LORD OUR GOD WILL CALL"

  • @LuvBlackness-d9r
    @LuvBlackness-d9r 27 днів тому

    9:40 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @lyleowens7940
    @lyleowens7940 15 днів тому

    So, can a person be saved without a water baptism ?

  • @christwoods1
    @christwoods1 Місяць тому +6

    It seems we Apostolics are the only ones whose eyes are not blinded and whose ears are not dull of hearing. When Paul wrote his epistles, he wrote to a select audience: believers baptized in Jesus’ Name and filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues. Therefore, he had no need to explain that grace did not simply mean mental assent.
    The concept of grace that unsaved theologians promote is inaccurate. Grace does not mean you have a free claim to declare that you are saved just because you believe Jesus is who He said He was (even the devils know who Jesus is). Nor does it mean that saying a sinner's prayer saves you, which, in essence, would suggest that you are saving yourself.
    Grace means that you now have access to salvation-something that was previously unavailable, especially to Gentiles, before Jesus’ work on the cross. However, access to salvation through God's grace requires steps to receive it. This is similar to how individuals, previously restricted from institutions because of race, religion, or gender, may now have access when those restrictions are removed. But they still need to complete the admission process to be accepted in.

    • @realmccoy124
      @realmccoy124 Місяць тому

      Give yourself a pat on the back, as you try to take Christ God away from folks in order to puff and vaunt oneself up. You cannot find a passage in Scripture that says ‘With the initial evidence of tongues’…
      Only Christ God can confirm the Church, which he purchased with his precious blood…. And here you are in the judgment seat of Christ - saying ‘unsaved theologians’… You don’t know who is - and who is not saved… your very Bible says that…. We all look towards God’s mercy and grace in hope of eternal life.
      What separates a sinner and a believer and a backslider? Only a choice… so choose wisely…. And quit judging people in your pride … you have no idea how God is at work in every human person - and who will be saved in the end.

    • @compositesquare
      @compositesquare Місяць тому +2

      Amen Christwood. You share truth friend.

    • @compositesquare
      @compositesquare Місяць тому +3

      ​@@realmccoy124 "You don't know who is - and who is not saved... your very Bible says that...."
      Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach(teach) the gospel(news) to every creature.
      16He that believeth and is """baptized""" shall be """saved;""" but he that believeth not shall be damned(judgement, hell).
      Believe in water baptism to be saved or reject water baptism and be damned judgment hell.
      Acts 19:5¶When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.

    • @realmccoy124
      @realmccoy124 29 днів тому

      @@compositesquare - so. Even if one believes … and is baptized … even they might not be saved in the very end. The UPCI borrowed that from the Wesleyans… picking and choosing … Arminiansim … it answers one of the 5 points of Calvinism rejected by the organization….Salvation can be lost. Historically, the Church has held the position that salvation can be lost…. As for your quoting the later part of Mark 16 … those particular verses weren’t always present in the text….

    • @compositesquare
      @compositesquare 29 днів тому +2

      @@realmccoy124 "As for your quoting the later part of Mark 16 ... those particular verses weren't always present in the text...."
      Your confused friend.
      Mark and Paul traveled together and taught the same teachings.
      Mark 16:16 is the same as Romans 10:9.
      Mark and Paul are both summarizing the prophet Joel in Joel 2:32.
      Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

  • @lucasrife4939
    @lucasrife4939 Місяць тому +2

    Romans 4:5 (KJV)
    But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

    • @revamp6612
      @revamp6612 Місяць тому

      What does Paul mean by works??? What is he referring too??? It’s interesting people often quote works scriptures without realizing what he means by works.

    • @lucasrife4939
      @lucasrife4939 Місяць тому +1

      @@revamp6612 thank you! That was going to be my second comment. I’ve yet to hear an apostolic define what works we are to fulfill without them giving some kind of inspirational thought. This is coming from someone that has been going to an Apostolic church for close to 10 years

    • @lucasrife4939
      @lucasrife4939 Місяць тому +1

      Galatians 5:3-4 (KJV) 3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. 4 Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

    • @lucasrife4939
      @lucasrife4939 Місяць тому

      @@revamp6612 In James chapter 2 where it talks about how "faith without works is dead." The chapter begins with James rebuking the twelve tribes for how they despised the poor, reminding them of the importance of following the "law of liberty."
      James 2:13 (KJV) says: "For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment."
      This ties back to what Christ taught about forgiveness in Matthew 6:14-15 (KJV): "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."
      What James is referring to isn't the works of the law of Moses, but rather the simple, yet profound acts of love and forgiveness that naturally flow from a heart that has been loved and forgiven. It's a reminder that our faith is alive when it's shown in how we love, forgive, and show mercy to others.

    • @revamp6612
      @revamp6612 Місяць тому +1

      @@lucasrife4939 we the readers often miss that Paul when ever he writes about “works” that “circumcision” is preceeded. I believe his teaching on “works,” is a direct result stemmed from the problem mentioned in acts 15. So yes you are spot on.👍

  • @Benjamin-yq5nc
    @Benjamin-yq5nc Місяць тому

    Here is what a lot of people get it wrong and are sometimes. One thing is to be SAVED and another is Already have obtained ETERNAL LIFE.
    Being SAVED is by grace and not by works.
    Obtaining ETERNAL LIFE is when you were faithful to the Lord and consecrated your life to service of the Lord Jesus. As the Lord said himself:
    Be faithful till the end, and I shall give you the crown of everlasting life.
    "He that is not born of the water and of the spirit CANNOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.

  • @apocryphanow
    @apocryphanow Місяць тому

    How does the Baptism of the Holy Spirit save?

    • @BENBRUTUS
      @BENBRUTUS 29 днів тому

      In Genesis 3, man disobeyed God, ate from the forbidden fruit and died. We died in eternal separation from God and literally: 2 deaths. Dead people cannot resuscitate dead people; it takes someone living to resuscitate the dead. The story of grace is God’s effort to resuscitate dead people, since God is the only one alive. John 3 tells us we must be born again in order to enter the Kingdom of God. In the Word, all are dead in trespasses and sins. In the Kingdom of God, all are made alive. When we believe the gospel (a living God adorned flesh and lived a sinless life, thereby becoming a sacrifice for sin, died and rose again) and respond, God gives us His spirit, thereby bringing us back to LIFE. John 3:5 John 6:63 The Spirit is God’s DNA within ,thereby making us His children- 1 John 3:9, Romans 8:9-11 and Galatians 5:22-23. Lastly, the Law could not give life to dead people. Life was made possible on by the sacrifice of Christ and receiving the Spirit of God-Romans 8:2, 2 Corinthians 3:6.

  • @compositesquare
    @compositesquare Місяць тому +2

    Ephesians 2:8-10 is water baptism and Spirit baptism to be born again and saved.
    Paul wrote a letter to Ephesus reminding the Ephesians of how they were saved in their past.
    Acts 19:1 Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus:
    Acts 19:5¶When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
    6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
    John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Acts 19:5-6.

    • @By_grace_through_faith24
      @By_grace_through_faith24 29 днів тому

      Cherry picking. Acts 19 is specifically about some disciples of John who were completely lacking in their knowledge of Jesus. Paul never implies all Ephesian Christians followed an exact pattern with tongues verifying.
      Ephesians 1:3 says when you heard the message and believed, you received the Spirit. It’s ridiculous to think the apostles would never, EVER mention tongues in relation to salvation in any epistle if they were required. Acts 2, 10, and 19 do not mean every single person will speak in tongues. Paul tried to make that clear, “do all speak with tongues?” (Speak, not “have the gift of tongues”).
      If he told the Galatians they were cursed for requiring circumcision, (when that was originally THE sign they were in covenant with God), I wonder what he would say to those who have told people they can’t be saved because they’re still “seeking” a signs gift for years. Think about that.

    • @compositesquare
      @compositesquare 29 днів тому +1

      @@By_grace_through_faith24 "Cherry picking. Acts 19 is specifically about some disciples of John who were completely lacking in their knowledge of Jesus. Paul never implies all Ephesian Christians followed an exact pattern with tongues verifying."
      You're a highly confused person.
      Acts 17:11 is not "cherry picking." Acts 17:11 is the Biblical way to read the scriptures.
      The book of Ephesians is a letter wirtten to the Ephesus reminding them of how they were saved in their PAST.
      Ephesians 2:8-10 is water baptism and Spiritual baptism to be saved Acts 19:1-6.
      You are Mark 7:7 ByGraceThoughFaith.
      Mark 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

    • @compositesquare
      @compositesquare 29 днів тому +1

      @@By_grace_through_faith24 "Ephesians 1:3 says when you heard the message and believed, you received the Spirit. It's ridiculous to think the apostles would never, EVER mention tongues in relation to salvation in any epistle if they were required."
      You are confused. You have no comprehension of Acts 17:11 "cherry picking."
      Ephesians 1:13 is Paul's letter written to Ephesus reminding the Ephesians people of HOW they received the Holy Ghost.
      Acts 5:32And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
      Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel(news) to every creature.
      16He(Acts 19:1-6) that believeth(Acts 19:1-6) and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
      17And these signs shall follow them(Acts 19:1-6) that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues(Acts 19:6 is Ephesians 1:13).
      You are confused ByGraceThoughFaith.
      You do not follow Acts 17:11. You follow 1Timothy 4:1.

    • @compositesquare
      @compositesquare 29 днів тому +1

      @@By_grace_through_faith24 "If he told the Galatians they were cursed for requiring circumcision, (when that was originally THE sign they were in covenant with God), I wonder what he would say to those who have told people they can't be saved because they're still "seeking" a signs gift for years. Think about that."
      You have allowed 1Timothy 4:1 to work in you ByGraceThoughFaith. You have not allowed Acts 17:11 to work in you.
      John3:16 is John3:5...Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Water baptism & Spirit baptism: Act19:5-6. If not, John3:36.
      Acts 8:15Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
      16(For as yet he was """fallen""" upon """"none""" of """them:""" only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
      17Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
      18¶And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,
      19Saying, Give me also this power, that on whomsoever I lay hands, he may receive the Holy Ghost.
      Acts 8:15-18 is Acts 19:5-6.
      You are confused Mr.Cherry Picker. Obey Acts 17:11. Or you are another kind of discipline 1Timothy 4:1. To which I rebuke you by Jesus Christ.

    • @compositesquare
      @compositesquare 29 днів тому +1

      @@By_grace_through_faith24 "I wonder what he would say to those who have told people they can't be saved because they're still "seeking" a signs gift for years. Think about that."
      Signs follow the believer of Jesus Christ as Jesus Christ instructed in Mark 16:17.
      You are not a believer according to the teachings of Jesus Christ.
      Mark 16:17 And these """signs""" shall follow them that """believe;""" In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
      Acts 28:2-6. Acts 19:5-6.
      1Timothy 4:1¶Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
      You are of the devil who has come against the word of Jesus Christ ByGraceThoughFaith.
      The faith is Romans 10:17 & Mark 16:15-18 message. Applied as Acts 19:5-6.
      Obey John 3:5 applied as Acts 19:5-6. Or John 3:36 will be your outcome friend.

  • @TheReader6
    @TheReader6 Місяць тому

    The UPCi is undergoing a metamorphosis from 1st wave Pentecostalism into 3rd wave Pentecostalism. Look it up.

    • @Post-Trib
      @Post-Trib Місяць тому +1

      Meaning what?

    • @revamp6612
      @revamp6612 Місяць тому +2

      @@Post-Tribright😂 an explanation would be nice.

    • @compositesquare
      @compositesquare Місяць тому +1

      😮

    • @realmccoy124
      @realmccoy124 Місяць тому

      I am pretty sure TheReader6 said - Look it up. If you really wanted to know - look it up. Seems like you’re acting like the 5 foolish virgins … always wanting something for nothing.

    • @revamp6612
      @revamp6612 28 днів тому

      @@realmccoy124well I’m pretty sure he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. And in typical desperate fashion you come in blabbing with your carnality. He probably means 3 wave of Pentecostalism. Not the UPCI in a 3rd wave.🤦🏽‍♂️ hence the reason I’m asking for an explanation. But you are so desperate to be combative, of course the guy who got exposed would step in trying to reestablish himself. After erasing all his own comments that exposed himself.🤣😂🤦🏽‍♂️🤫

  • @joe-say-did-it6201
    @joe-say-did-it6201 Місяць тому

    the thief on the cross was not baptized.

    • @Post-Trib
      @Post-Trib Місяць тому +2

      That's bc the thief was under OT law and Jesus had not yet been resurrected in order to command water baptism. Duh

    • @jimbrisco7374
      @jimbrisco7374 Місяць тому +3

      The thief was on the other side of Calvary. Before Christ died, before He was glorified. The writer of Hebrews explains this in Ch 9. A testament is of no power until after the testator dies. The New Testament plan of salvation had not been put into action yet. The thief was technically still in the Old Testament. This can blind side some people, we sometimes forget that even though the Gospels are included in our new testament’s of our bibles, the Gospels were not written before Jesus’ death, but they took place before his death.

    • @realmccoy124
      @realmccoy124 Місяць тому

      Hi Joe - the thief’s acceptance by Christ reflects an oikonomea… He called upon the Lord and was saved… But, even though I disagree with many things that Oneness Pentecostals say, to include Revamp and Post_T … normally, we believe on the Lord Jesus Christ… which is evident here by the Thief’s calling out to remember him when Christ God comes into his Kingdom .. Repentance… Many will cite Mark 16:16 - which wasn’t present in all ancient texts… He that believe and is baptized… but is certainly part of coming into the faith. Repent. Baptism and Chrismation - the sealing of the Holy Spirit. Keep on pressing.

    • @compositesquare
      @compositesquare Місяць тому +1

      ​@@jimbrisco7374 Amen Jim. There is an Old Testament and New Testament. Hebrews chapter 9.

    • @compositesquare
      @compositesquare Місяць тому +1

      @@realmccoy124 "Many will cite Mark 16:16 - which wasn't present in all ancient texts... He that believe and is baptized..."
      Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
      Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
      Acts 2:38¶Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

  • @kc17821
    @kc17821 Місяць тому +1

    In a UPC years ago a man stands to testify.”we if Jesus saves baptists and Methodists that wouldn’t be right. After all we’ve done “

    • @realmccoy124
      @realmccoy124 Місяць тому +1

      And yet, God who is rich and merciful… not willing any should perish … to include those evil Baptists and Methodist… works in the lives of every human person that they might be saved along with those who have done all of this and all of that… May our faith equal to those who were martyred for their Faith in God.

    • @Post-Trib
      @Post-Trib Місяць тому

      They're disobeying the gospel and can't be saved bc they have no faith and are trinitarian, pagans and idolators

    • @sammuhho8632
      @sammuhho8632 Місяць тому

      @@realmccoy124 I agree, brother. I am a Baptist but my parents are Orthodox. I am tired of these Oneness people thinking they have a monopoly on salvation. I used to love a Oneness girl which made me consider becoming Oneness myself but I fled this false and misguided teaching.

    • @realmccoy124
      @realmccoy124 Місяць тому

      @@sammuhho8632 I was Oneness for 25 years… ended up Orthodox after 7 years of studying Orthodox because I needed to unpack a lot of theology and soteriology from my Oneness formation. Be encouraged!

    • @fabiellyvasquez2420
      @fabiellyvasquez2420 Місяць тому +1

      ​@sammuhho8632 what false and misguided teaching? I'd love to be educated.

  • @TheCatslinger
    @TheCatslinger Місяць тому

    Hmm…salvation by grace through faith. As opposed to what? Salvation by law through Moses? Salvation by myth through the gods? Salvation by the emperor through Rome? Faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the Rema of God.

  • @tbow8954
    @tbow8954 Місяць тому +1

    Obedience is a symptom of salvation. Your sinful flesh can not be obedient without the strength of the Holy Spirit and a sinful heart changed by God's grace. You are thus putting works into salvation. Foolish.

    • @Post-Trib
      @Post-Trib Місяць тому

      What works?

    • @JivTurky1986
      @JivTurky1986 27 днів тому

      That can’t be true because the Bible says we are given the Holy Ghost because we have obeyed Him (Acts 5:32).

  • @tbow8954
    @tbow8954 Місяць тому +5

    Acts 10 43. Acts 16 31. Everything stated after Acts 2 is faith alone in the sacrifice of Jesus. Acts 15 clarifies that Peter believes that the Jew will be saved "even as they", in the context he means the Gentiles. He elaborated to explain that the heart of the Gentile is purified by faith. Thus, saved by grace through faith alone.

    • @germanwulf40
      @germanwulf40 Місяць тому +8

      If you were in a burning building, and you couldn't get out yourself, it would be by the grace of the firefighter who goes into that building for you that you would be saved from the fire. And yes, it IS by grace that they do this, because they don't willing go into burning buildings just to get paid; there's much safer ways to make money. They do it because they care about people.
      Now imagine you're trapped on the third floor of the building, which won't be three levels up for much longer, and the closes the firefighter can get to you is from the second floor, just below a hole where he can see you. He tells you to jump and says, "Don't worry, I'll catch you." It's a bit of a scary idea, but you'd obviously believe him (that he can and will catch you if you jump).
      I ask you; would belief alone be enough to save you? If you stayed up there on the burning 3rd floor, 100% sincere and confident in the belief that he will catch you and then save you, would you actually be saved from the fire? Of course not! True belief always leads to action!
      So it is with salvation. You could believe in your heart all you want, but if you don't let that belief lead to you obeying God's Word (repentance, baptism both water and Spirit, and living a holy life to the best of your abilities), then your belief means nothing. Just as believing the firefighter in the burning building would require you to act on your belief to truly be saved, so does believing on Jesus require you to act on your belief to truly have salvation. Otherwise, belief is nothing more than a license to freely sin.

    • @isaacsandoval9316
      @isaacsandoval9316 Місяць тому +1

      @@germanwulf40yet is still the belief that saves you. Not the action. The action only reflects or shows that belief. Least you can boast.

    • @germanwulf40
      @germanwulf40 Місяць тому +2

      @@isaacsandoval9316 So what do you think Jesus meant in John 3:5 - the exact same conversation as John 3:16 - when He said "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God."
      Can you define what it means to be "born of water" and "born of the Spirit"?

    • @compositesquare
      @compositesquare Місяць тому +3

      Ephesians 2:8-10 is water baptism and Spirit baptism to be born again and saved.
      Paul wrote a letter to Ephesus reminding the Ephesians of how they were saved in their past.
      Acts 19:1 Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus:
      Acts 19:5¶When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
      6And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
      John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Acts 19:5-6.

    • @isaacsandoval9316
      @isaacsandoval9316 Місяць тому +1

      @@germanwulf40 as a Presbyterian I believe baptism saves... However faith proceeds works. Works are a production of real faith. Pointing to works doesn't disprove my position. The reason baptism is effectual in the first place is because the person getting baptized has faith. Would baptism do anything in itself for someone who lacks it? Obviously not. The water isn't magical for a non-believer. therefore faith takes precedence. Everything else flows from it. No such thing as perfect obedience. If that was the case heaven is empty. The reason we obey isn't to save ourselves. But to show love to the one who has already saved. To show real faith.