Using & Reviewing POWERCAST WAX castable resin with an Elegoo Mars - detailed home casting by VOGMAN
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- Опубліковано 21 лис 2019
- Powercast Wax castable resin + Elegoo Mars 3D printer = excellent detailed home castings. This time a signet ring. I'm was pleased to be able to review Powercast Wax and provide these generous discount codes:
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My mom used to design jewelry using the lost wax method years ago and if she were alive today she would do this. Great video. Thanks.
Then your mother was a truly gifted lady. I deeply admire those with the artistic talent capable of working directly with wax. It's a skill I don't share : )
The wife walked in while I was watching this and said "Ooh, that's really cool..." That means I'm one step closer to convincing her to let me buy a kiln. XD
That's good news Austin. That's the major hurdle we all face ; )
Lmao! At least your wife gives a crap.
I just bought my kiln and her last words were, "can't you just rent this sort if stuff"
Hahahhaha. But she want an Excalibur sword so she's only disappointed that I bought a small electric kiln than a full sized 3 burner gas forge, anvil, blacksmithing tools etc so that I could litterally forge her a sword for no real reason outside of her liking it from a Netflix series.
Guess I'm not manly enough for her.🤣🤣
Austin Hussey That’s how to do it young man. Little by little. Carve a few wax rings for her so she can see how dedicated you are and what you’ll be making for her but you can’t make them, not if you haven’t got a kiln. Maybe someone can rent you a kiln for one month. Local Lapidary club might be able to help you out but if you can’t hire one, you’re another step closer to getting your own. Or start a money box for your kiln. Every day empty every coin from your pockets and wallets, into the money box. It soon mounts up. Like that pun?😆. No harm in trying.
Words can not explain how thankful I am for teaching us about the layer coating for the castable resins! I wasted a whole 500g bottle of PowerCast Dark and half of the bottle of my Burn resin. Was trying to get a successful print for over a month and ever since I add the base layer I have not had a single failure! Keep doing your thing!!!!!
Glad I could help!
THANK YOU! that priming base layer was the trick ive been needing to get this dark to print, worked like a charm!
Your examples and experience are absolutely stellar! I am passing your channel along to several other folks who are just starting out hoping that they reap the same rewards that I have from your tremendously insightful content. Thank you so much and keep the content coming!
Wow, thank you Joel. I really appreciate that : )
Looks like it turned out fantastic to me! Really like the quality on your ring.
Really am glad you're getting noticed by different companies out there!
I'm hoping Ferrari will give me a car in exchange for a review...
But I'm not holding my breath : D
I have to say I started with one of your first videos before you got so good at this and let me say it’s so inspiring . I finally have a resin printer the Phrozen sonic mini, now I want to get a furnace and kiln and everything to cast metal! Definitely love watching your journey!
Thanks Zach. For me that's the whole point... I'm nothing special. I have no experience or acquired skills. And yet last week I made a pretty good replica of an Anglo Saxon ring in silver. If I can do it, anyone can : )
Love your channel man, you break things down so clearly. Thanks! Yet again, you've given me ideas 🌴
Glad to hear it! Ideas and inspiration is what it's all about 😁
You really out did yourself. You made everything look simple and could even guide a dummy like myself. Your design software is great, liked the way you included the sprues in your design and the use of silicon bronze. Excellent job and awesome work of art. Thanks for posting and have a great weekend👍👍👍
Thanks Chuck. But believe me, it has to be an easy process if I can do it : )
I've wondered about this for a while now. Thanks for inspiration to look further into the tools necessary. I noticed you posted a link to another video below. Great content!
For those looking for the link you have on this, here it is: ua-cam.com/video/qxj5eUkAFUI/v-deo.html
Amazing! I have no words. Just splendid!
Thanks Louw : )
That turned out very nice, thank you for sharing it with us!
Thanks Robert : )
This guys videos are wholesome and informative I appreciate these videos
Thanks Mohammad. That's very kind : )
VOG may I request a video on how to use software to create 3D castable prints?
Wonderful job, VOG ! i love it.
Many thanks : )
You've outdone yourself again. Great job!
Thanks Rouverius : )
It's amazing how big progress you've made! :) You should be proud of yourself :D
Thank you. That's very kind : )
I think it turned out right nice. Looks like a professionally made ring to me...
Thanks John : )
Way chill effort - very well done. :)
Another cool video! Neat to see how you put all that you are learning into practice with great execution. The Elegoo Mars seems to be a good printer for hobby. Coworker has one, great detailed prints for the cost. Thanks for sharing.
It's a fantastic machine : )
It's gorgeous, well done sir!
Many thanks : )
You've done fantastic! Thanks so much for the video
Many thanks : )
Great video! Love your humor! I was curious as to if this resin performed as well as it does, it seems so! I think your ring even has better details than the GTHIC ring, which can be a good or bad thing depending on how you look at it, on one hand your ring is so perfect it appears clearly manufactured and that may not appeal to some people, the GTHIC ring clearly looks more handmade and has those tiny imperfections to show that, plus it has more of a vintage look to it (hard to explain, the best way I can is that ancient jewelry from early peoples you could easily see the tool marks and they were much less perfect compared to today's stuff). I am going for a high degree of perfection for what I am doing though, as my design is extremely detailed, standard resin struggles with it and I know for sure my own hands couldn't manage it!
Kudos! I think it turned out great. The trick to using jewelry saws is to let the saw blade do the cutting. If you notice the blade bending then you're putting to much pressure on the saw. When I notice myself doing that, I take a break and have a cup of coffee.
I'd better get a lot of coffee : )
Very good details. The resin printer really is quite impressive.
Many thanks : )
Loved your video! Awesome details. I’m having I tough time figuring out the burnout times. And I’d like to know before I order it. Does it say on the bottle? Orrrr please help! 😩
I think you did an awesome job. It looks great! 😍
Many thanks : )
That’s an awesome job! If you want to save your saw blades, you need to use almost no pressure going perpendicular to the blade. Grip the handle so loosely that you’re worried you’d drop it, and let the blade do the work. The back and forth will cut it all by itself :)
Thanks Nat. I'm not the best at being light-handed : )
You've goten some new stuff since I last watched, sweet set up
I try not to stand still. I gather too much dust ; )
I use silicon bronze all the time! Great alloy
Looks great , lots to learn now for me !
We've all got lots to learn - that's part of the fun : )
@@vogman For Sure, now I need to somehow get a furnace in the workshop under cover as a 'room heater that cost £30...
"Buying one would´ve been much easier" - ah, but you don´t get quite the same sense of satisfaction, do you?
For me there´s nothing more satisfying than going out into the world knowing that I´ve got a spotless, smart, really well-turned-out ring.
I know what you mean, but I've personally found that displaying a ring openly with pride can often draw the wrong sort of attention : )
Personally I like the imperfections in hand made. The skill to create beauty by hand. Look at the diamonds very carefully the are not perfectly round. I would love to sit at the jewellers feet that made this ring and learn. ua-cam.com/video/vJQBn5fAtpw/v-deo.html
Came out really nice.
Many thanks : )
Awesome as always
Thanks Dario : )
Nice vid. How important is it to have the kiln preheated when you pour the molten metal into it? Trying to plan this out beforehand and its a minor hassle since I've only got a single outlet strong enough. Maybe I can have the oven in a diffrent room and walk over with the molten metal from another room but that doesn't seem ideal. Any help appreciated Thanks!
Very nice ring Geoff! Your videos are great for showing just how much effort and time it takes to (hopefully) get the desired result at the end of the process. I also disagree on which ring looks better... I prefer the look of bronze, especially after it has developed it's petina. The stainless steel ring looks great too, but I also like your simpler pattern To my eyes it less 'busy'... IMHO anyway. Good job mate!
Thanks Dan. There's a lot more detail on the silver ring and you know me and detail... it's what I strive for. It's possible to attain I think, but I've got a way to go yet : )
Hi! Print looks great, have you tried printing on Anycubic Photon? I've issue with this resin, first layers print great, but another one doesn't stick to build plate and swim in VAT... At what temperature do you print?
Been watching your videos now for a few weeks and have just bought my first elegoo mars 2 Pro and can't wait to start printing some cool stuff any tips or tricks for the Mars 2pro? Thanks and keep up the casting
Hey VOG! Great channel man. Also thank you! I got the Mars 2 Pro (mono), I was wondering how this would effect the settings?
I haven't tried it in honesty... but powerresins are pretty forgiving. Find yourself something small but detailed (there are test prints like that out there). Start with 3 secs and see what happens. You many need to go up or down... that's why you want a small fast print 😁
Turned out great !
Thanks Bryce : )
that looks really good
Many thanks 😊
great video, thanks!
do you think this resin will work in a creality LD002R?
Which drill bits did you use to clean off the casted piece? we are having some trouble polishing gold so i am wondering which bits and/or grit paper should i use to polish and make it smooth?
Nice info , thanks - But what plaster of paris do you recommend?
This is a great review, thanks VOG! I'm looking at doing some prints for someone else to cast, which is your favourite resin so far for this technique? You mention you prefer this Powercast Wax to Burn, but how does it compare to say Bluecast or others? What's easier to get hold of in the UK?
I've yet to try Blucast. I hope to soon.
Damn nice ring, mate - good job...!!
That looks great! I think your expectation have increased with all the success lol
Thanks Matthew : }
Really liking how they turned out 😁😄😎💎 and the ingot though 😳😲
It's a big beast isn't it ; )
@@vogman definitely 😁😄😎💎
The ingot is not impressive when you haul around a ton of them 😂
Hello, thanks for sharing . Does this resin require a 12 hour burnout?
That looks amazing, I've started making a few pieces of jewelry and would love to set up my own little foundry to cast some but don't know where to start.
Have a look at this video - ua-cam.com/video/qxj5eUkAFUI/v-deo.html
It describes the process and equipment needed for Lost PLA, but the method and materials are the same. There's useful links in the description : )
Another brilliant video 😀
Thanks Tony : )
This episode of video is awesome !
Thanks Dennis : )
What are the properties that make the silicone rubber that you use in moulding suitable to have molten metals poured into them? I am trying to find an Option for use in the US before I dive deeply into casting, but since the product you use can only be delivered within the UK, I'm at a bit of a loss.
Beautiful ring! I love the gold color of the bronzes. I work with aluminum bronze and thats some Hard stuff! Never worked with silicon bronze but i'm guessing its pretty tough stuff also from the looks of your poor saw blades.
It's early days for me Keith, but for strength I'd probably give it to Al. Bronze. For fluidity, definitely Sil. Bronze. For shine? I love them both equally : )
Great Inspiring video! How much of the bottle would u say u used ? $120 seems reasonable for hq molds if you can knock out a few pieces per bottle
Great job!
Many thanks : )
Those skull rings look right up BigStack's alley :) I like the tree very much.
many thanks : )
Having trouble with the burnout. My wax burns and does not melt? Any tips I have am using the burn out cycle as suggested still getting poor burn outs
What do I prime the build plate with
nice work,thanks.
Thank you too!
Hay VOG do you have a USA link with discount to buy a elegoo mars ?
Im about to buy one
Hey man xan you do a tutorial on how to use fusion 360 hand h9w to make a ring
Great video! I am looking to get into Lost Wax Casting, would you recommend a vacuume/centrifuge if I were to begin lost wax casting? Or would i be okay without. THanks!
Hi Josh. Lost Wax or Lost Resin ideally needs a vacuum system. I experimented with this a while ago and built a DIY system which will really show you how useful vacuums are - ua-cam.com/video/EGNnH_xbjR4/v-deo.html
These days I use the Arbe system and love it ua-cam.com/video/tdxiZs0MDbs/v-deo.html
Great video, need to try casting myself ^^; at 9:06 is that a 3d printed drum polisher?
The barrel tumbler? They're really useful. You can find them everywhere these days. Here's one on Amazon amzn.to/2ObNj5w
You use small metal shot (ball bearings) and these gently burnish and shine the metal : )
hello can tell me the temperature curve, we can't see well on the video. thank you
The ring turned out PDG if you ask me. I saw a roll of wax filament for the 3D printer on some site. Might give it a go one day. Have you ever tried anything like that? Good work.
I have to guiltily confess that I have a few roles to test and review... but so far I haven't (naughty me). I really must get around to it : )
Hi VOG,
Keep growing your channel with premium quality video about resin cast. It's very motivating and inspirationnal for me. You gave me the envy to 3d print and cast in metals at my turn. Will definitly buy your Moulage Delask Silicone Base when i'll have my own 3d printer. I improve my knowledge on Fusion 360 in the meantime... Do you have resource to recommend about Fusion by the way ? I am a motivated beginner. See you VOG !
Many thanks : )
I'm self taught in Fusion 360 as I am with everything else... it's how I learn best, so I'm afraid I don't know any good tutorials out there. I do know that Fusion (Autodesk) have their own UA-cam Channel though : )
Did you use any sort of vacuum chamber for the investment?
When you create a primed build plate in the manner we've previously discussed, do you then clean and re-home/re-level the build plate or continue with the settings as they were?
No, I just carry on as if it doesn't exist. I know that doesn't sound as though it would work, but the proof is in my videos 😊
@@vogman i had the same quesion lol. Wouldn't that put a lot of stress on your LCD? I guess it's force over area so the pressure is low, but my LCD is already partially broken lol.
whats the furnace you use?
You can really clean up that front face by sanding it to a high grit and buffing it. It'll make the edges a lot crisper and get rid of the printing lines aswell.
I'm enjoying your video's as always, take care!
Many thanks : )
try the alpha sense castable resin from ebay is $50 for 500ml, awesome work btw
They remind me of a company called Bucktown Polymers, where you can buy resins by the KG for far less than by the liter.
have you used this resin? which setting are you running with it?
I am looking for information - Is there a problem in the casting process when casting sharp edges of jewelry? For example, the shape of the tree - do you need rounding at the edges to get the metal to every corner of the casting mold? You made beautiful ring!
No, my friend. The corners can be sharp, rounds, patterned, etc. It's all in the casting. I did a Trident casting here that has square edges - ua-cam.com/video/ty7XF1u_ZAY/v-deo.html
hey vog thank you so much. this plate file literally saved me so much time. is there anyway i can send a donation?
Always gratefully received - thank you. If you head to me channel home page ua-cam.com/channels/kEYj8wtK3aEW8vSGhlB43g.html there's a tiny PayPal button in the top right corner. It's easily missed so there's also my website, though payment is still securely made through PayPal - www.vegoilguy.co.uk/donations.php
You're very kind 😁👍👍👍
What kind of primer do you use to prime the build plate. I am having trouble having my pieces stick to the build plate. Ive Tried 3 in 1lubricant and tried the technique you showed with the prime coat. Havent had any luck yet
The resin itself is the primer. Just apply a thin layer and double the Base Layer time : )
do you have a video tutorial on how you use fusion 360? I'm very novice and watching you sketch out the design used a lot of functions I didn't know existed.
Actually all I really did was sketch. Get to grips with simple sketching and you'll be fine : )
Unfortunately I'm self taught so I don't have any tutorial videos, but there are plenty out there I believe.
hi sir, i would like to ask a question about what program do you use for designing a jewelry? thank you for sharing sir.your vlog is very helpful. thank you so much!
Here I was using Fusion 360. However, I'd recommend FreeCAD now as Fusion 360 has become awkward with their licensing. FreeCAD, as the name suggests, if free, and very capable 😁
I was wondering if you can use normal resin sold by Elegoo to do a lost resin cast? Or is it a must that you have to use these specialty resins to be able to have a proper burn out? Obviously I would prefer using the Elegoo brand stuff due to the difference in price point. Thanks for your many videos, keep up the good work!
No my friend. Ordinary resins don't burn away cleanly and often give off toxic fumes.
Beautiful work sir, inspirational. Thanks a lot for sharing.The design is really nice, it looks like a druidic style mayan face ... if you know what I mean.
Thanks Raymus. In honesty it just sort of came out. I didn't plan it : )
How are you getting this resin to work for you? It's not casting right for me
what other castable resins are good but not as expensive
nice work
Thank you! Cheers!
Hi, I hope you help me with small details about the power wax, 1. what kind of liquify you rinsed the prints (in the bucket)? 2. What’s the best and fastest way to dry it afterwards? I thank you in advance.
Happy to help. Prints are washed in Isopropyl alcohol (IPA) but I also use Methylated Spirits.
Once they have been rinsed, give them a quick shake and blast them with a hair dryer - but on a COOL setting : )
Namaste
Can you please tell me the melting temp of casteble resin
what is the machine in 9:05 used for? it seems it contains nails?
Amazing job! One of these days ill find the time to do this stuff. I've wanted to design a ring for some time. I just can't seem to figure out fusion 360 lol. I designed a simple sphere shaped shift knob and even used the threaded hole option to put threads in the hole for it to screw onto the shifter. When I exported it the threads didn't export and I have no idea why. Everything else I try to do has some error that says I can't do what im trying to do but doesn't explain what im doing wrong. I feel like a caveman lol
I swear Fusion just likes to confuse us. If you watch the video again you'll see hundreds of warning messages flashing up almost constantly. I convinced there's one that says, "Warning: You are not bothering to read our warning messages."
As for threads, I haven't tried that so I can't advise. I find Fusion a pain at exporting stl files sometimes (it's so slow). Instead I go direct to 3D print via Cura. From there, rather than print, I export as as stl. Sounds more involved but I can see if everything is there and still get the job done faster than waiting on Fusion : )
sinformant. Goggle "Titan CNC Academy" Fusion 360 Lessons posted...
Awesome👍You progressing so fast that soon you will cast for a NASA 😁
Are you flipping the flask after an hr too with the wax resin as you did with the burn resin?
Yes. Always with castable resins as they become gas.
Wheres the fun in just buying one. You wear it and feel proud you put in the time and effort to create such a nice ring. You could have went with .925 silver. That would have been nice. Thanks!
Ahhh well, if all goes well, next week you might see my first ever Silver project : )
I've actually got a small bag of 925 infront of me right now. I have a few projects in mind but I want to get the above mentioned out of the way first.
I am using alphasense DLP/SLA Castable resin with my elegoo mars any tips on the settings and why it keeps sticking to the fep film?
If it's on the film it's not sticking to the plate. Get everything nice and level and really bake on those first few layers : )
You're heavy-handed with the saw.
Try a lighter touch. LOL
I was getting the same results *snap*, I eased up and they lasted longer and performed a bit better.
That, and I got #2 blades as well. :D
I still use #4 where needed.
Excellent pour!
And amazing result!
Silicon bronze does do a proper job making jewellery!
I have so many things I want poured, but I can't even use a furnace where I live.
It's frustrating...
Thanx again Geoff!
You always succeed in showing us a great vid! :D
Be less heavy handed? Have you seen my hands? Sumo wrestlers have delicate digits in comparison to me... I could try helium filled cuffs I suppose : D
I bought a vice (shocker!) to offer a little more support and once I remember to order some blades, I'll give it another bash. I think 100 should get me through one video ; )
Take care my friend.
lube blade with bees wax
I like it thanks.
Many thanks : )
8:46 Someone let Frodo know he’s gonna have to head back to Mt.Doom...
"... the One ring..."
VERY clever : D
I'd love to see a review of makerjuice waxcast. It's one of the cheaper castable resins at $55 for 500ml. I had to prime the build plate to get it to stick but the detail looked good.
Stick with me Justin. I have a bottle of that waiting to be tested and reviewed : )
@@vogman I look forward to it!
How does adding the 'prime layer' of .2mm affect the 'homing' of the build plate when you start the actual print? By adding that layer make the build plate to close to the FEP/LCD screen and push in to much?
It's a valuable question. I honestly expected it to make a difference - but it didn't : )
Great video, where did you learn this stuff? I want to learn to design jewellery but I don't know where to start
Many thanks. I'm completely self taught and I'm still learning as I go. I'm thrilled to say I know many of my viewers have watched my videos and progressed alongside me. They're producing stuff just as good as me if not better! One great guy, Dan, recently cast his own weddings rings!!!
If you're very serious about it and have the time and money, local colleges etc run courses. If time is an issue, you're welcome to watch my videos. I'd suggest starting with this one ua-cam.com/video/CxqCeoKip4k/v-deo.html which was where I first dabbled with Lost Wax Casting (a traditional Jewellers technique). If you watch every casting video that follows, I switch between techniques at times, making and changing my own equipment to save money, but an hour or two of watching will bring you to exactly where I am now.
Honestly, what I do isn't difficult : )
That's awesome, thanks for the advice, I'm subbed and will be checking out those videos. Thanks again
Ring looks amazing. May I ask, what software were you using?
Thanks. That's Fusion 360 which is free for amateur use. Just download the trial version then select the amateur license : )
VOG I will!!! Thank you so much for replying. Love your creativity and your humor.
Hey there. Quick question concerning casting plaster in general. I only have a small Furnace that can go to 800 and 1000°C. How important are these burnout cycles for a successfull lost pla cast? Should i try doing it or is it defineatly going to fail? Just wanted to ask someone experienced
Happy to help. I'd say critical. The burnout process not only removes all the PLA, it prepares the plaster, burning away the excess moisture and making it properly porous. 800C is more than enough. My burnout rate cycle maxes at 750 I seem to recall : )
Awesome!!!!!
Thanks Eunice : )
What is your casting form called?
I wanted to ask where you bought your smaller melting furnance?
Pretty nice work btw
No worries Tobi. Go to this video and look in the description - ua-cam.com/video/qxj5eUkAFUI/v-deo.html - there's links there to the items I use : )
@@vogman Thank you!