"The Sanskrit word ā́rya (आर्य) was originally an ethnocultural term designating those who spoke Vedic Sanskrit and adhered to Vedic cultural norms (including religious rituals and poetry), in contrast to an outsider, or an-ā́rya ('non-Arya').By the time of the Buddha (5th-4th century BCE), it took the meaning of 'noble'. In Old Iranian languages, the Avestan term airya (Old Persian ariya) was likewise used as an ethnocultural self-designation by ancient Iranian peoples, in contrast to an an-airya ('non-Arya'). It designated those who belonged to the 'Aryan' (Iranian) ethnic stock, spoke the language and followed the religion of the 'Aryas'." With due respect to this gentleman, I simply fail to understand how he connects that with a 'Dravidian' term? The word 'Dravid' is also Sanskrit....
@@goddalehundibharathraj4374"....word drāviḍa in the work Tantravārttika by Kumārila Bhaṭṭa, the word drāviḍa in Sanskrit has been historically used to denote geographical regions of southern India..."
@@rajotavo kumarila bhatta using it doesn't prove it's a sanskrit word. He borrowed it of course. //The origin of the Sanskrit word drāviḍa is Tamil. In Prakrit, words such as "Damela", "Dameda", "Dhamila" and "Damila", which later evolved from "Tamila", could have been used to denote an ethnic identity. In the Sanskrit tradition, the word drāviḍa was also used to denote the geographical region of South India.//
@@goddalehundibharathraj4374avestan is not Sanskrit its Iranian one different civilisation. Some words borrowed on both sides doesn't make one higher or lower.
The speech that requires lot of mental openness for the listener. It is really an enlightening moment of listening to GNDevy, genuine Indian scholar of the day. Proud of you Sir
It seems to me the previous commentators listened to a different man than what I just heard. Incredibly subtle, thoughtful, profound and not stuck in standard thought tropes, like perhaps our previous commentators, able to stand above and see the whole. I’ve just bought the book and can’t wait for it to arrive. Thanks so much!
Beautiful and amazing interview! India needs more people like him to help highlight that is it is the amalgamation of different traditions and cultures that has made Indian civilization vast and comprehensive in both spiritual and cultural matters! Wishing or pushing a single idea or a view or a tradition on everyone is really the end of any adaptive civilization that can withstand the test of time! You just have to look at the past for so many examples of this! The comment about upliftment for women is so touching and is so needed badly for our country at this time. The so called "tribals" throughout history have had more respect for motherhood , women goddess and women rights than the so called the "non-tribals" of our country. I am still optimistic that we are headed in the right direction. Jai Hind!
He lost me when reiterated the Aryan Dravidian Myth in the . Nothing ingenious or authentic .. just rejacket and spout the same bullshit already propagated by western 'historians'. I first thought he was trying to create something inclusive but this is pure crap. He ignores every contrary proof and claims himself to be right thinking moral etc. Highly dissapointed.
A linguist only relies on other areas of evidences offered by experts of those respective fields to work around a theory of migration. They can not validate or falsify the theories from those other fields. AMT is old Indian academia consensus. Wish they left their protectionist attitudes to engage with new evidences and theories. On medieval period, the same experts so callously dismiss Islamic atrocities across such vast geography of India and across such a long timeline saying it was just a form of "civilizational collaboration". Nobody is asking any blames to be put on present day Muslims, just asking them not to lay claims on our shrines, to acknowledge the tyranny of those invaders who brutalised our society and faith, instead what we see is gaslighting of Hindus like above and blatant dishonest negationism of history.
They can be open about discussing caste system but dismiss destruction of Temples so callously calling it "temporary". Dishonest phony people. These cowards have no real principles at all. Absolutely insensitive frauds, they can be so insensitive to violence against Hindus and their faiths only because they know there wouldn't be any blowback.
Islamic conquest of India was a CONFLICT of Indian civilization with Turkic Central Asian Islamic civilization only. And British colonization was another one. What is the problem in acknowledging that !?
The problem is that the conflicting civilisations were and are not comparable. They are alive today and the conflict continues.... it is not history, it is still going on now! What you are suggesting means that Indian civilisation should be willing to go into a museum .... otherwise the conflict will continue which does not suit these marxist ideologues who need to convince all of India that they need to break into 30 odd countries and give up their ancestors heritage. All this is cloaked in a lot of talk about love and compassion, etc...
This man is too ambiguous. He has been sponsored by the tukde tukde gang members and funded by islamists to soften the barbarism they unleashed on the non believers through his book.
You are 'kammaal' Shoma ji...! nice and very truly informative interview on history with Shri Devi ji. We love the clarity of his vision.We love Devi ji as well as we love you Shoma ji...you are influencing us immensely and continuously. You are real gem of our time Shoma ji. Thanks and again thanks for your such a nice conversation with our time's true personalities.
Still persisting with the Aryan dravisian line of thinking which has been disproved over time and still we insist on following it There is no sanskrit language works found any where in the world and how does one say that it was founded in another part of the world
@@alani3992 i am not sure what you mean by rooted elsewhere . The problem is what we consider as separate geographies now may have had common heritage/people . But the logic is which was the region with the best climatic conditions to allow for development of agriculture and settlement a precondition for civilizational advance .
This erudite person, sitting beside an equally facile and glib talker opines that Dravidian history must be written by a Dravidian and that of a Muslim compulsorily by a Muslim. That's the level of fragmentation and rupture that these people have in there heads. Unless you have an idea of oneness in the multitude and try to seek one, what knowledge can you have?
His words are pertinent till some of these invaders became rulers here and after that the clah of civilisation theory holds good . Moral sanathana dharma allowed collaboration but the abhrahamic faiths brought clashes and we see it persisting even now.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel Mediate why the divide occurred Science engineering tecnolgy unites and see what illusion of security it brings Earth sorry whole glaxy we r ripping it all to live forever many Asura wanted to live forever When a surgery is done on humanity it looks divisive When yadavas partied whole night they killed each other this is human fate meditate when msg is paased to humanity don't be defensive in front of almighty it will blow u up to pieces Have u ever stood in front of might wave when u were youth and all muscles, wave will shatter u to pieces humility and total surrender is the intent of us being created.. meditate
Guys stop fighting and please don't kill the people who genocided you with famines. Please listen to Gandhi. Please accept the queen as your ruler. Is there a Bharat ratn for jokers? Cz I can see this man winning one.
Don't agree that caste and women right issues are the primary problems of india in the past. Class has been a problem all around the world but they got over it not by d8scrimnation but by laws . Here we have laws to prosecute people of higher calss3s but what about name calling like brhamnical patriarchy etc .thwy need to be punished as well. Onlya balanced approach can eradicate issues . Reservations have to also have a and by date and people have to be gradually veened away by disqualifying people after they reach a particular status in society so that benefits start percolating down.
ary means he you? just as there are histories with -s for plural could not ary have meanings with -s for plural ... and where have you got this he you meaning from?
Where does he get 'harmony' vis a vis the islamic attack on Indian civilization?!! I hope, as a scholar he has read the famous American historians, Will & Ariel Durant's works!
A book Three Migrations and Three invasions discusses Indian history including that of indigenous dravidians and the migrant aryans and their respective contributions to what constitute today as India much better than this one-sided presensation, that too by a linguist. Disappointing.
Bro, Aryan migration is completely disproved in academia. With Keeladi excavations it seems, North n south both worked closely and seemlessly in developing both Harappan n Kaveri civilizations. However the problem is south still flourishes on the banks of Kaveri as such much digging not possible.
George Soros funded mentality, urban naxals , persons in search of winning useless award from foreign countries always try to take away credits from the greatest Bhartiya Civilization. It's a missionary agenda to keep uttering baseless rant that Bhartiya Sanskruti was having caste system and women were not having importance. Women in Bhartiya Sanskruti always been treated most respectfully, revered, and given supreme status. There was no caste system but Varna system ( like our now days Constitution allows classification of 4 class of working people i.e. Gr.A, B, C, D, like 4 Varna) to govern society.
I don’t find him very well read person. He has a views that suits this lady. Then he say women were most oppressed in India. He should see literature of Greeks and westerners, and also of the Middle East women were stoned to death. There is an unbiased account of civilization in guns, germs and disease.
This person seems just influenced and read western authors for his refurbbooks, more like a fiction writer, oh man get real, why you expose yourself with the interview, better get into Indian vegas purana Jains agam vedic literature, just sick to see they are still drunk in western aww, what a shame this man is
This Prof seems to represent Sharia-Bolshevik cabal. His comment on lack of geographic and sex representation in the team of experts made by GoI was very funny.
Good talk. He didn’t enlighten on burning of Nalanda library. Acceptance is OK , but what if another doesn’t accept us? Why do we need another 12000 years to solve caste & gender issue? Things are moving at a much faster pace.
The interviewer repeatedly interrupting Dr. Devy in an attempt to extract some “punchlines” and one-liners is so annoying. What is this? A prime time TV debate ? 🙄
Modern humans eveloved in India and then migrated to the other parts of the world. Sanskrit is the origin of all the languages. Manu is the first and the greatest man. Manusmriti is the book we all should follow.
He doesn’t answer to the point. Tries to prove himself that he is well read by using irrelevant items. He doesn’t have a clear knowledge about our-own history and its a waste of time to try to learn about our past from him.
Yeah those who studied History and reasearched all their life do not know history but keyboard warriors and whatsapp graduates knows more than them i😂😂😂
Fully agreed Sir. George Soros funded mentality, urban naxals , persons in search of winning useless award from foreign countries always try to take away credits from the greatest Bhartiya Civilization. It's a missionary agenda to keep uttering baseless rant that Bhartiya Sanskruti was having caste system and women were not having importance. Women in Bhartiya Sanskruti always been treated most respectfully, revered, and given supreme status. There was no caste system but Varna system ( like our now days Constitution allows classification of 4 class of working people i.e. Gr.A, B, C, D, like 4 Varna) to govern society.
@@letsthink1991 History is nothing but the study of past events n there is difference between facts and history.The reference we used in history could be biased n it's been recorded as per preferences. Lyk Andha bhakt if someone follow d so called biased scholar then that is nothing but stupidity.We can only refer what they shared in their research but acknowledging their studies as fact is an insult to our prudent...Use your intellectual not ur emotion...Most of our so called scholars have been lacking historical evidences.
Where Tony Joseph has 'contributed' one can be sure of what the outcome is! I think it'll be a good idea to brand books with "Marxist/Leftist', "Hindutva" labels more brazenly and let people decide which version they want to read. Everyone is intellectually dishonest.
Just chanced upon this discussion. The professor in this discussion comes out as superficiality par excellence, mouthing run of the mill textbooks stuff. One expected a bit more depth. He evaded all the serious questions raised by the anchor. Sad
Very little of substance or newness in this conversation. Simply regurgitation of some knowledge and a lot of conjectures. Trying to fit Indian history in a leftist construct. Key leftist markers are statements on conflict between Buddhists/Jains and others. Such conflicts were few if at all and there is no concept of kafir in any of the Indic systems.
also i want to say that devy is racist because he calls meeting after he learns that some north indians are selected ... many tail goose and aiyars discriminate against north indians ... they are racists ... try to grow up devy
Absolute nonsense. The earliest dating of Mahabharata was around 3000BCE and Ramayana is by conservative estimates atleast 2000 yrs before that. The so called 'Dravidian' Pandyan Dynasty is mentioned in both. We have Sanskrit narration of both Ramayana and Mahabharata. And he still talks about Before Christ. He is a product of modern historical doctored data.
Hard to trust soma Chaudhary a fringe like journalism from tehelka has any wisdom ask good questions. Let us hear this gentleman if he knows vedsuktam…
Wow 12009 years of history ? Let us ask him Vigyan and nasdiya sukta. Why this lytens is so interested in Indian history all they interested is what happened after 1947 and Romilla thappar history…..
it enrages me when these people keep on diminishing indian civilization as a"collaboration of civilization" or just an assembly of bits n pieces from elsewhere & no original thought. simply untrue
If you Cnnof read read and understand Sanskrit you no knowledge of. 12000 years of Indian history. By knowing what we know about tehelka office manager, who would believe Bhakti movement and islam…
Very unimpressive presentation.No.use of this type of study of the past.One single finding exposes the shallowness of their study. Arya is the word from Veda bhasha meaning a respectable person.Not came from Iran.Dravida represents the Geography while Arya represents the quality of the person.Both of them have noting to do with the race.This factor had been well established beyond any doubt.
An imposter who has alll the regards for Western intellectuals but scorn for our own heritage!
"The Sanskrit word ā́rya (आर्य) was originally an ethnocultural term designating those who spoke Vedic Sanskrit and adhered to Vedic cultural norms (including religious rituals and poetry), in contrast to an outsider, or an-ā́rya ('non-Arya').By the time of the Buddha (5th-4th century BCE), it took the meaning of 'noble'. In Old Iranian languages, the Avestan term airya (Old Persian ariya) was likewise used as an ethnocultural self-designation by ancient Iranian peoples, in contrast to an an-airya ('non-Arya'). It designated those who belonged to the 'Aryan' (Iranian) ethnic stock, spoke the language and followed the religion of the 'Aryas'." With due respect to this gentleman, I simply fail to understand how he connects that with a 'Dravidian' term? The word 'Dravid' is also Sanskrit....
Dravida is not a sanskrit word. Why doesn't that word occur in avestan?
@@goddalehundibharathraj4374"....word drāviḍa in the work Tantravārttika by Kumārila Bhaṭṭa, the word drāviḍa in Sanskrit has been historically used to denote geographical regions of southern India..."
@@rajotavo kumarila bhatta using it doesn't prove it's a sanskrit word. He borrowed it of course. //The origin of the Sanskrit word drāviḍa is Tamil. In Prakrit, words such as "Damela", "Dameda", "Dhamila" and "Damila", which later evolved from "Tamila", could have been used to denote an ethnic identity. In the Sanskrit tradition, the word drāviḍa was also used to denote the geographical region of South India.//
@@goddalehundibharathraj4374avestan is not Sanskrit its Iranian one different civilisation. Some words borrowed on both sides doesn't make one higher or lower.
@@goddalehundibharathraj4374dakshina became dakkina (Deccan like Deccan plateau) south India refered as dravina (English dravida).
The speech that requires lot of mental openness for the listener. It is really an enlightening moment of listening to GNDevy, genuine Indian scholar of the day. Proud of you Sir
It seems to me the previous commentators listened to a different man than what I just heard. Incredibly subtle, thoughtful, profound and not stuck in standard thought tropes, like perhaps our previous commentators, able to stand above and see the whole. I’ve just bought the book and can’t wait for it to arrive. Thanks so much!
I wish some one would organize a debate between Prof. Devy and Anand Rangnathan or Sanjeev Sanyal!
Beautiful and amazing interview! India needs more people like him to help highlight that is it is the amalgamation of different traditions and cultures that has made Indian civilization vast and comprehensive in both spiritual and cultural matters! Wishing or pushing a single idea or a view or a tradition on everyone is really the end of any adaptive civilization that can withstand the test of time! You just have to look at the past for so many examples of this! The comment about upliftment for women is so touching and is so needed badly for our country at this time. The so called "tribals" throughout history have had more respect for motherhood , women goddess and women rights than the so called the "non-tribals" of our country. I am still optimistic that we are headed in the right direction. Jai Hind!
Same old English mindset..... tribal non tribal both contributed to Hinduism and India. His view is mostly anglo Christian views .
Saffronism spread by absorbing native cultures & deities.
It was more about elite brahminical power, than about spreading spirituality.
Absolutely fascinating. So happy to discover the erudite professor.
Am so thankful to Shoma for learning of GN Devy and his amazing work. Am enlightened.
knowledge and wisdom combined in this gentleman. a rare combination.
He lost me when reiterated the Aryan Dravidian Myth in the . Nothing ingenious or authentic .. just rejacket and spout the same bullshit already propagated by western 'historians'. I first thought he was trying to create something inclusive but this is pure crap. He ignores every contrary proof and claims himself to be right thinking moral etc. Highly dissapointed.
none can help you if yu dont believe in facts and drunk on myth.
A linguist only relies on other areas of evidences offered by experts of those respective fields to work around a theory of migration. They can not validate or falsify the theories from those other fields. AMT is old Indian academia consensus. Wish they left their protectionist attitudes to engage with new evidences and theories.
On medieval period, the same experts so callously dismiss Islamic atrocities across such vast geography of India and across such a long timeline saying it was just a form of "civilizational collaboration". Nobody is asking any blames to be put on present day Muslims, just asking them not to lay claims on our shrines, to acknowledge the tyranny of those invaders who brutalised our society and faith, instead what we see is gaslighting of Hindus like above and blatant dishonest negationism of history.
They can be open about discussing caste system but dismiss destruction of Temples so callously calling it "temporary". Dishonest phony people. These cowards have no real principles at all. Absolutely insensitive frauds, they can be so insensitive to violence against Hindus and their faiths only because they know there wouldn't be any blowback.
Islamic conquest of India was a CONFLICT of Indian civilization with Turkic Central Asian Islamic civilization only. And British colonization was another one. What is the problem in acknowledging that !?
The problem is that the conflicting civilisations were and are not comparable. They are alive today and the conflict continues.... it is not history, it is still going on now! What you are suggesting means that Indian civilisation should be willing to go into a museum .... otherwise the conflict will continue which does not suit these marxist ideologues who need to convince all of India that they need to break into 30 odd countries and give up their ancestors heritage. All this is cloaked in a lot of talk about love and compassion, etc...
@@user-zy8vk2ip8o Agreed. They're like foxes in lamb's clothing.
This man is too ambiguous. He has been sponsored by the tukde tukde gang members and funded by islamists to soften the barbarism they unleashed on the non believers through his book.
Exactly
Especially exposed when asked about burning of universities by Islamic invaders
You are 'kammaal' Shoma ji...! nice and very truly informative interview on history with Shri Devi ji. We love the clarity of his vision.We love Devi ji as well as we love you Shoma ji...you are influencing us immensely and continuously. You are real gem of our time Shoma ji. Thanks and again thanks for your such a nice conversation with our time's true personalities.
Informative history ... We need to look at history in unbiased way ... Hats off
Still persisting with the Aryan dravisian line of thinking which has been disproved over time and still we insist on following it
There is no sanskrit language works found any where in the world and how does one say that it was founded in another part of the world
Two plus two is not four any more. That has also been disproved by Prof NS Rajaraman, Prof . Malhotra, Abhijeet Iyer Mitra and J Saideepak.
Rooted elsewhere, but evolved in India.
@@alani3992 i am not sure what you mean by rooted elsewhere . The problem is what we consider as separate geographies now may have had common heritage/people . But the logic is which was the region with the best climatic conditions to allow for development of agriculture and settlement a precondition for civilizational advance .
This erudite person, sitting beside an equally facile and glib talker opines that Dravidian history must be written by a Dravidian and that of a Muslim compulsorily by a Muslim. That's the level of fragmentation and rupture that these people have in there heads. Unless you have an idea of oneness in the multitude and try to seek one, what knowledge can you have?
The difference in narrative between history and ithihasa is very imminent.
His words are pertinent till some of these invaders became rulers here and after that the clah of civilisation theory holds good .
Moral sanathana dharma allowed collaboration but the abhrahamic faiths brought clashes and we see it persisting even now.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_Babel
Mediate why the divide occurred
Science engineering tecnolgy unites and see what illusion of security it brings
Earth sorry whole glaxy we r ripping it all to live forever many Asura wanted to live forever
When a surgery is done on humanity it looks divisive
When yadavas partied whole night they killed each other this is human fate meditate when msg is paased to humanity don't be defensive in front of almighty it will blow u up to pieces
Have u ever stood in front of might wave when u were youth and all muscles, wave will shatter u to pieces humility and total surrender is the intent of us being created.. meditate
Rahul Gandhi : Union of states
Shoma : Collaboration of Civilizations
Story Sounds European imposing over India just like Britishers
Here you go Soma Chaudhary forgets massacres in india history but kalburgi
Guys stop fighting and please don't kill the people who genocided you with famines. Please listen to Gandhi. Please accept the queen as your ruler.
Is there a Bharat ratn for jokers? Cz I can see this man winning one.
Hi, I request shomaji to give us a link or some way where I can see the unedited full interview. Thank you...
Not a good conversation. He focuses on uninteresting topics and seems to be having unreliable opinions about Aryans and Dravidians.
Don't agree that caste and women right issues are the primary problems of india in the past.
Class has been a problem all around the world but they got over it not by d8scrimnation but by laws .
Here we have laws to prosecute people of higher calss3s but what about name calling like brhamnical patriarchy etc .thwy need to be punished as well.
Onlya balanced approach can eradicate issues .
Reservations have to also have a and by date and people have to be gradually veened away by disqualifying people after they reach a particular status in society so that benefits start percolating down.
He is always very sweet spoken, মধুরভাষী, এতো অল্প সময় কেন? He deserves more time to speak, to detail review his own book.
ary means he you? just as there are histories with -s for plural could not ary have meanings with -s for plural ... and where have you got this he you meaning from?
Where does he get 'harmony' vis a vis the islamic attack on Indian civilization?!! I hope, as a scholar he has read the famous American historians, Will & Ariel Durant's works!
I admire when people admit what we all have inherently, which is laziness
A book Three Migrations and Three invasions discusses Indian history including that of indigenous dravidians and the migrant aryans and their respective contributions to what constitute today as India much better than this one-sided presensation, that too by a linguist. Disappointing.
Bro, Aryan migration is completely disproved in academia. With Keeladi excavations it seems, North n south both worked closely and seemlessly in developing both Harappan n Kaveri civilizations.
However the problem is south still flourishes on the banks of Kaveri as such much digging not possible.
Kindly check your Haplo Y Chromosome and reply. @@rajshekhar1147
Aryans are urbanlegends just to keep anti Indians and anti sanatana people happy 😂
Brilliant Dr Devi!
Westerners wanted to share the credit of our past knowledge so they come up with all kinds of theory.
He is a Nehruvian congressman who is writing history.
George Soros funded mentality, urban naxals , persons in search of winning useless award from foreign countries always try to take away credits from the greatest Bhartiya Civilization. It's a missionary agenda to keep uttering baseless rant that Bhartiya Sanskruti was having caste system and women were not having importance. Women in Bhartiya Sanskruti always been treated most respectfully, revered, and given supreme status. There was no caste system but Varna system ( like our now days Constitution allows classification of 4 class of working people i.e. Gr.A, B, C, D, like 4 Varna) to govern society.
Rightly said.Read Rajivjis Jati,Varna,Caste book.
All bright minds need to have good, long sleep. Sleeping does not necessarily mean laziness. Inaction is laziness, whether mentally or physically😊
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Well said.
Wonderful!!
Should have been much lengthier
I don’t find him very well read person. He has a views that suits this lady.
Then he say women were most oppressed in India. He should see literature of Greeks and westerners, and also of the Middle East women were stoned to death. There is an unbiased account of civilization in guns, germs and disease.
Such a wonderful interview. Redeems faith in the wonder that is India.
There is a book by A L Basham titled " the wonder that is india "
Tell this idealism to minority in Islamic country
This person seems just influenced and read western authors for his refurbbooks, more like a fiction writer, oh man get real, why you expose yourself with the interview, better get into Indian vegas purana Jains agam vedic literature, just sick to see they are still drunk in western aww, what a shame this man is
The Aryan root itself is nonsense.
Lots of speculation though !.
This Prof seems to represent Sharia-Bolshevik cabal.
His comment on lack of geographic and sex representation in the team of experts made by GoI was very funny.
Good talk.
He didn’t enlighten on burning of Nalanda library.
Acceptance is OK , but what if another doesn’t accept us?
Why do we need another 12000 years to solve caste & gender issue? Things are moving at a much faster pace.
Shoma Chowdhury .... i hope viewers know her credentials well...
One of the finest linguistic historian of the world ❤❤❤❤
What collaboration? 50% of Bharat has been totally Islamized and no trace of Bharat even exists there!! All of these talks are just wokeism!
Too boring and very vague.
Nothing has vanished our regional languages in tact?
He should debate with Rajiv Malhotra
He is clearly and deliberately evading questions ( hypocritical agenda)..
The interviewer repeatedly interrupting Dr. Devy in an attempt to extract some “punchlines” and one-liners is so annoying. What is this? A prime time TV debate ? 🙄
History is too serious a subject to be left to historians. No two historians agree as no two doctors and two watches.
Burning of Nalanda by Islamic Invaders = " Collaboration of Civilizations " 😂😂😂😂😂
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Persians there in Midwest region much before christ….mind this fact
Modern humans eveloved in India and then migrated to the other parts of the world. Sanskrit is the origin of all the languages. Manu is the first and the greatest man. Manusmriti is the book we all should follow.
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He doesn’t answer to the point. Tries to prove himself that he is well read by using irrelevant items. He doesn’t have a clear knowledge about our-own history and its a waste of time to try to learn about our past from him.
Really you have this to say about one of the greatest scholars of the last 30 years!!!
@@TheTwaraRumila Thapar is also a scholar since years who had her agenda driven history which most of us following.
Yeah those who studied History and reasearched all their life do not know history but keyboard warriors and whatsapp graduates knows more than them i😂😂😂
Fully agreed Sir. George Soros funded mentality, urban naxals , persons in search of winning useless award from foreign countries always try to take away credits from the greatest Bhartiya Civilization. It's a missionary agenda to keep uttering baseless rant that Bhartiya Sanskruti was having caste system and women were not having importance. Women in Bhartiya Sanskruti always been treated most respectfully, revered, and given supreme status. There was no caste system but Varna system ( like our now days Constitution allows classification of 4 class of working people i.e. Gr.A, B, C, D, like 4 Varna) to govern society.
@@letsthink1991 History is nothing but the study of past events n there is difference between facts and history.The reference we used in history could be biased n it's been recorded as per preferences.
Lyk Andha bhakt if someone follow d so called biased scholar then that is nothing but stupidity.We can only refer what they shared in their research but acknowledging their studies as fact is an insult to our prudent...Use your intellectual not ur emotion...Most of our so called scholars have been lacking historical evidences.
Where Tony Joseph has 'contributed' one can be sure of what the outcome is! I think it'll be a good idea to brand books with "Marxist/Leftist', "Hindutva" labels more brazenly and let people decide which version they want to read. Everyone is intellectually dishonest.
Just chanced upon this discussion. The professor in this discussion comes out as superficiality par excellence, mouthing run of the mill textbooks
stuff. One expected a bit more depth. He evaded all the serious
questions raised by the
anchor. Sad
Very little of substance or newness in this conversation. Simply regurgitation of some knowledge and a lot of conjectures. Trying to fit Indian history in a leftist construct. Key leftist markers are statements on conflict between Buddhists/Jains and others. Such conflicts were few if at all and there is no concept of kafir in any of the Indic systems.
also i want to say that devy is racist because he calls meeting after he learns that some north indians are selected ... many tail goose and aiyars discriminate against north indians ... they are racists ... try to grow up devy
Another copy of Romila Thapar, Fakestorian
When you say we ,is that includes Pakostan ,peehaps your fathers land,which did not accept Mt Batton ?
Absolute nonsense. The earliest dating of Mahabharata was around 3000BCE and Ramayana is by conservative estimates atleast 2000 yrs before that. The so called 'Dravidian' Pandyan Dynasty is mentioned in both. We have Sanskrit narration of both Ramayana and Mahabharata. And he still talks about Before Christ. He is a product of modern historical doctored data.
I don't understand what this guy is trying to say!
What a waste if time!!!
Professor must be smart but the worst communicator ever who jumps from one tangent to another without answering the questions posed.
Hard to trust soma Chaudhary a fringe like journalism from tehelka has any wisdom ask good questions. Let us hear this gentleman if he knows vedsuktam…
He does not answer any question. Aryans and Dravidans are different. Tamil is the oldest language and not Sanskrit.
Rubbish 99%
Wow 12009 years of history ? Let us ask him Vigyan and nasdiya sukta. Why this lytens is so interested in Indian history all they interested is what happened after 1947 and Romilla thappar history…..
it enrages me when these people keep on diminishing indian civilization as a"collaboration of civilization" or just an assembly of bits n pieces from elsewhere & no original thought. simply untrue
Why don't people flock to such conversations ? Are we Indians born only to engage in useless political and cricket conversations ? 😢
If you Cnnof read read and understand Sanskrit you no knowledge of. 12000 years of Indian history. By knowing what we know about tehelka office manager, who would believe Bhakti movement and islam…
Very unimpressive presentation.No.use of this type of study of the past.One single finding exposes the shallowness of their study.
Arya is the word from Veda bhasha meaning a respectable person.Not came from Iran.Dravida represents the Geography while Arya represents the quality of the person.Both of them have noting to do with the race.This factor had been well established beyond any doubt.
Panch makars all
Just knows how to present his idea in a good story. Personally disappointed.