How to find studs behind plaster and lath when a magnet isn't working and the wall is featureless
Вставка
- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- How to find studs behind plaster and lath when a magnet isn't working and the wall is featureless...
Also, how to hang a lightweight hammock for a small person in a small room. This hammock is for a child that weighs less than a hundred pounds I would absolutely not recommended doing this for an adult or heavy child
The one that is off centre is what we call in the UK a noggin- like a cross beam. In our 125 year old home they tend to be at an angle any where between 30 and 40 degrees. Most of our walls have studs at variable distances apart from 12 to 15 inches apart. Lots of holes and repairs to bury cables on the 're wire I can tell you.
in the one room of the house where we tore out the plaster and laugh and put in drywall we discovered at least three different types and sizes of studs and probably five different styles of nails. in this little room the wall that has the paper on it in the video wound up not even being studs. they wound up looking like 1x6 boards or something. I suspect that the wall was made thin. eventually when I drilled the hole for the hammock d-ring I passed a little tiny laparoscopic type camera into the hole and the construction turned out to be extraordinarily non-traditional. it looked like they built it out of reclaimed wood. I have a feeling the upstairs bathroom which is right on the other side of the wall was not an original feature of the home and it was just kind of squeezed in.
15 million B.C. hahahaha thanks for the help!
Wow, where did you find that dot matrix printer paper?
it found us. it was looking for a home. it was homeless. someone gave it to us for scrap paper.
Haha damn bro how did I buy a Pennsylvania rowhome built in exactly the same year!!
Ok, now, any suggestions for when you have metal mesh incorporated with your lathe behind the plaster?
I bought ultra strong magnets and the problem is that they attract to the whole wall 🤦🏻♂️
I’m so frustrated
is the entire wall mesh? or is the mesh only used in corners, or in one area to do a repair?
in a different room in the house there was metal mesh in a corner where they were two windows very close to the corner but the metal mesh was only around that corner because it created a very difficult situation for lath. I'm no expert, but it doesn't make sense to use metal mesh over large areas
Every wall in the whole house has the plaster, lathe and mesh. I just ended up starting at an outlet and made small notches at 16. Studs were more or less there but 100 year old plaster sure gets messy
Bro really appreciate the video. Its good to know other people are working in these old homes that show Zero love when it comes to stud finding.
Random piece of info, the thickness of those Neodymium of magnets has a huge effect on how deep they penetrate into the wall. I had two circular magnets with the same diameter. One 1/2 thick, the other 1/4inch thick. The 1/4 didn't find crap while the 1/2 inch found beautifully. The home i'm working with now however has metal EEEEEverywhere in the wall so i'm kinda F*#ked. Thanks for the vid!
after messing around with all the babel in this video, i sort of tried again with the neodymium magnet. I taped it to the end of a thread that was about 8" long and made a little magnet pendulum, held the string against the wall at the top, and sort of gently let it sway/pendulum back and forth, and the magnet would show where the nails were. The magnet would NOT stick to the wall, but it WOULD stop swinging at the nail head.
In the end, the 'studs' i found in the left wall turned out NOT to be real studs. I figured this out by eventually sticking a $9 lighted android/usb borescope through the hole i drilled for the lag bolts to sort of look around in the wall. The wood i found turned out to be what looked like some flooring boards used like studs. It was an upstairs add on bathroom that's really quite small, and i think they either had limited materials (depression era?), or they were trying to make the walls extra thin to maximize available space? Anyway, since my daughter isn't very heavy , and since the force on the lag bolts is more sideways (due to diagonal mounting across the room) we put some weight in the hammock to test it would hold, then used toggles on that wall, and i told her NOT to swing in it, or flop down into it just to be on the safe side. But in the end it worked fine. No signs of failure or impending failure.
I'm glad the video offered some useful insight for you.
" The home i'm working with now however has metal EEEEEverywhere in the wall " it's kind of hard to see in the video, but i taped paper to the wall, because the metal i was finding seemed to be all over the place. So what i did was basically mark EVERY single metal spot i could find, then i studied the pattern of 'nails' & metal, measured from corners/door ways, etc. Wen into the basement and measured how far the ducts were from the outside wall etc, and had to sort of make a guess from a LOT of info. The nails for the boards weren't even perfectly vertical. I am SO curious what these farmers/homesteaders were working with as far as tools/materials/brains. lol
@@etyrnal Good video, my house is only a 100 years old, but there is no consistency. Glad to see that a stud finder “might” be mildly helpful. Good luck on future projects.
@@etyrnal are you sure those flooring boards are not lath? like in lath and plaster homes
@@arsengames certain of it. The lath is horizontal and I can see it distinctly from the the other "opportunity wood" which is vertical. This old farm house was built with whatever was available...
Thank you. No, magnet does not work and I can't afford the metal finder and was looking for confirmation on measurements from wall. I have heard 12inches.
mine was so non-standard that boards inside the wall weren't even 2x4. they were done kind of panelling
I'm in a studio apartment in a building from the 20s, desperately need vertical storage, and my search for studs has led to a wall-sized mixed-media art project like you've got going on here! Truly baffling. Grateful for the solidarity.
I think the biggest help for me in this situation were two things, one was using several different kinds of finding techniques, and the other very helpful technique was taping paper to the wall and using it to mark all the guesses and then try to build a story out of all the guesses. it really helped gain confidence about the story inside the wall. in the end it wound up that the wall shown in the video with the paper on it wasn't even constructed out of traditional boards where we would have expected there to be studs there were only one by six boards. and they weren't mounted lengthwise in the walls they were mounted flat. it was all kinds of crazy. I know this because after we finally drilled the whole for the bolts we passed a little tiny Android camera through the wall and looked around and it was anything but traditional inside.
@@etyrnal Sounds wild. And makes a lot of sense. I have some points the deep scan studfinder and a magnet agree upon, but nothing is plumb! Which, considering the rolling slope of the floor and slant of everything else, might be just be the state of the place. Ugh. Gonna keep playing battleship with this wall and try to get the story.
Great video! Hopefully I can get these TV mounts installed now. Thanks!
How much does the TV and mount weight all together? Maybe you don't need studs? Maybe toggles would be enough? I'm no expert. But i do know the newer TV's, even the big ones aren't super heavy any more. I was looking at toggle specs and even for some of the smaller ones, the load they can handle is 40 pounds for a single toggle. If you're using 2, or four, that's a considerable amount of load bearing ability. Will the TV mount swing out more than a few inches from the wall?
Genius
they say it takes one to know one...
so good!
Hahahah at the age of the house. 🤣 I feel that pain lol
Thank you!
i hope it helps! Let me know if it does! For MY situation, on of the most helpful things was taping paper to the wall so i could make all the marks on the paper instead of the wall. But the structure in this room was very odd since it was an ad hoc addon decades ago. So i hade to mark MANY spots as possible candidates. The more spots i marked, the more i trusted the 'picture' that was emerging of just exactly what was going on behind this weird wall.
It worked in the end tho.
Thanks 🤦🏾♀️
You're very welcome. I hope it helped in some way.
We dont know who Jack is
correct. you do not.