Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty | Review in 3 Minutes

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  • @guyoncouch8796
    @guyoncouch8796 Рік тому +43

    Just some general performance notes for anyone playing on PC.
    In Game Vsync OFF. Enable the GPU Vsync. Volumetric Fog turn it down, same for Volumetric Cloud. Also consider limiting frame rate for more stable from time.
    And as always make sure your Driver is updated.

    • @venandis7833
      @venandis7833 Рік тому +4

      This is just a bad PC port if I have to turn down graphical settings and capping my FPS when I have a high-end gaming PC.

    • @BenLA5
      @BenLA5 Рік тому

      @@venandis7833 Its HILLARIOUS SONY has the best PC ports overall as they do things like pre compile shaders. A $20000 PC in any given year over the last 20 years has performed worse than a console overall because of traversal, streaming, DRM and shader stutters.
      Somehow it took a CONSOLE MAKER to save PC gaming lmao. PC gamers are to blame, as they accepted that BS

  • @snackplaylove
    @snackplaylove Рік тому +28

    I can’t wait - Dynasty Souls!

  • @bandiddid8583
    @bandiddid8583 Рік тому +97

    its crazy how all over the place these reviews are. Half say its ok, other half says its absolutely amazing.

    • @johnwrath3612
      @johnwrath3612 Рік тому +32

      Nioh was like that too. Some said it’s a weird, overly complex rip off of dark souls, some said it’s incredible.

    • @DylanJo123
      @DylanJo123 Рік тому +24

      Niche games tends to be like that. If it clicks with you, it really clicks. If not, it can either be mediocre or fall flat.

    • @bandiddid8583
      @bandiddid8583 Рік тому +3

      @@johnwrath3612 true true. To me Nioh 1 was flawless when i played it. Very sharp, accurate controls and additive gameplay loop and innovative way of NG+

    • @bandiddid8583
      @bandiddid8583 Рік тому +1

      @@yosefyonin6824 i never said they sad it was bad. Read what i wrote again.

    • @amr0017
      @amr0017 Рік тому

      Listen, this is good if you put time to it, bad if you’re impatient.
      Also there aren’t many enemies

  • @joeherrera8826
    @joeherrera8826 Рік тому +13

    I gotta say you really have to learn how to parry in this game especially when going up against the bosses to defeat them. It took me some time to beat the first two bosses when I learned at least a bit on how to parry them.

  • @gamestarr4048
    @gamestarr4048 Рік тому +8

    Really looking forward to this one! The Nioh’s are both fantastic and Team Ninja really knows how to make a fluid combat system!

  • @monsterfurby
    @monsterfurby Рік тому +3

    I don't really like Soulslikes (or "recursive action RPGs"), but this being included in Game Pass plus the Three Kingdoms setting might just get me to try it.

  • @combatwombat2134
    @combatwombat2134 Рік тому +3

    I actually found this game really hard. It severely punishes a playstyle I'd developed from Dark Souls, Nioh and Elden Ring and encourages one I'd forgotten since playing Bloodborne.
    Attacking is so important and relying on the deflection is fundamentally necessary. I was played way to turtle-y and was looking for typical openings after big attacks which aren't super common.
    It also never clicked to me till I was a couple bosses in that there's no stamina bar so you're encouraged to keep attacking.
    The first boss after the village genuinely killed me more than almost any boss in the SoulsBorne franchise because I just didn't click that learning this wasn't enough but rather having to unlearn Dark Souls muscle memory and playstyle was the key.
    I think that's putting a few people off - I only stuck with it because I realised what the game wanted us to play like.

    • @TeamKatastrophe
      @TeamKatastrophe Рік тому +1

      Same here. In DS and ER I'd just grab the biggest stick and break poise, but this game, just like bloodborne, encourages you to read your opponents movements more, rewarding counters and attacks. Beating that first boss is such a rush. I also like how vunerable you start at each level, and how even in late game the mooks can break your poise with a critical hit. Keeps you on your toes.

  • @JulesNekro
    @JulesNekro Рік тому +1

    Thanks for reviewing KC!

  • @masterprocrastinatoryeah
    @masterprocrastinatoryeah Рік тому +3

    What a great surprise for me. I didnt expect it to be like Nioh which I love. Can't wait to play it.

  • @sognar2240
    @sognar2240 Рік тому +5

    It says coop in the description of the game - is it a full co-op or some sort of dark souls system?

    • @SymmetricalDocking
      @SymmetricalDocking Рік тому +4

      It's from the Nioh creators so it will be both. Likely up to 3 person co-op. It's full co-op but you can also put out a summon for help a real person to mid-level, as well as revive NPC allies based on dead players.

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro Рік тому

    I have been waiting for this glad that it is finally here!

  • @MrShika07
    @MrShika07 Рік тому +7

    Bro I fell like that was super informative for 3 min bravo

  • @PendragonDaGreat
    @PendragonDaGreat Рік тому +6

    But does it feature Zhuge Liang/Kongming hosting a rap battle in Shibuya? If not it can only be a second rate ROT3K story. /s
    Seriously though, looks good and sounds like it plays well too. Not a huge fan of Nioh So I'll probably give it a shake on gamepass.

  • @jakubpuawski3875
    @jakubpuawski3875 Рік тому +4

    I recently sunk over 100h into Nioh 2 (stuck at home with an injury), so I'm definitely going to play this eventually, but I keep going back and forth on wether to buy it at launch or wait for a sale. Looking at the reviews, it seems like they did not fix the most glaring issues from Nioh games (level design and enemy variety), but the gameplay seems really fun, if a bit one-sided.

    • @Alloveck
      @Alloveck Рік тому

      I thought the enemy variety was pretty good in the Nioh games, but I am totally with you on not liking the level design. Big thumbs down to linear hallway game structure.

    • @gekzify
      @gekzify Рік тому +1

      It was a bit odd in nioh 2 that level and enemy variety increases after you complete the main story, most people probably think the game is over at this point then it keeps going. A but of an odd choice but felt like a reward for those who kept going

    • @molh394
      @molh394 Рік тому

      Nioh is like an excuse to fight the same enemies over and over more or less tbh. It does it differently from like anyone else - I feel it may just be a Team Ninja thing

    • @gekzify
      @gekzify Рік тому

      @@molh394 I did get tired of the fire wheels in neoh 1

  • @TheLordDracula
    @TheLordDracula Рік тому +4

    Interesting to see the dichotomy between this review and ACG. normally they are similar but in this case almost exact opposite.

    • @Bahamut3525
      @Bahamut3525 Рік тому

      ACG doesn't like difficult souls games. They get pawned in combat. All I would advise is to wait for pc version until it gets patched. It's yet another good nioh style game.

  • @dookie6734
    @dookie6734 Рік тому +3

    I wasn’t too sure about the term recursive action rpg when I first heard it on the podcast. But I think I’ve come around to it.

    • @JoelSangster
      @JoelSangster Рік тому +1

      what exactly does recursive mean in this context? is it just a term to replace souls-like?

    • @dookie6734
      @dookie6734 Рік тому +1

      @@JoelSangster I think so. Like an action rpg that requires you to repeat the same steps over and over until you get a successful result.

  • @user-lm3nr1yc2t
    @user-lm3nr1yc2t Рік тому +4

    Wo long for the win

  • @JulesNekro
    @JulesNekro Рік тому

    Is the loot as much as Nioh? Hated having to compare my gear every couple of minutes

  • @romanfilzbiber685
    @romanfilzbiber685 Рік тому +5

    I like how The Escapist in general adopts the vocabulary Yahtzee came up with. Recursive action RPG is so much better than soulslike.

    • @mrshmuga9
      @mrshmuga9 Рік тому

      What does that mean though? That the experience is made in mind that you’ll die a lot?

    • @ryanbauer3680
      @ryanbauer3680 Рік тому

      I always called it Grit Combat or GSC(Gritty Style of Combat).

    • @PowerZordan
      @PowerZordan Рік тому +1

      @@mrshmuga9 That you'll come back to the same point a lot, which pretty much means the same yeah

  • @ponderingForever
    @ponderingForever Рік тому

    Nioh games are a hidden gem. Defo gonna give this a look-- just be sure to play on Gamepad.

  • @hiddenone98
    @hiddenone98 Рік тому +9

    Recursive Action RPG? That's new and surprisingly accurate. I like it

    • @ArthurDraco
      @ArthurDraco Рік тому +5

      Yahtzee came up with the "recursive" name 2 years ago.

    • @hiddenone98
      @hiddenone98 Рік тому +2

      @@ArthurDraco Ah, didn't know that. Of course he did

    • @MelMelodyWerner
      @MelMelodyWerner Рік тому +1

      I still think "masocore" is a badass genre name for it.

    • @VascovanZeller
      @VascovanZeller Рік тому

      What does it mean, though?

    • @CeraSeptem
      @CeraSeptem Рік тому

      ​@@VascovanZeller souls-like

  • @majormetcalf1225
    @majormetcalf1225 Рік тому +4

    The demo didn’t run super well on my computer and it’s no hunk of junk. Felt like the second level was in slow motion.

  • @nomercy8989
    @nomercy8989 Рік тому +2

    Played the demo on pc and the performance was a deal-breaker for me.

  • @Malouco
    @Malouco Місяць тому

    Game looks dope boi

  • @lauraazure6462
    @lauraazure6462 Рік тому +1

    Idk he was alot nicer on this game then I was lol

  • @baronsengir187
    @baronsengir187 Рік тому

    Please tell me you can disable the damage number popup.

  • @deadpansnarker3749
    @deadpansnarker3749 Рік тому +2

    Loving that game so far. At Earth General boss atm. Is hard and mean, and the salt from people is pilling up to the skies, but once you actually learn the game instead of trying to apply previous knowledge it becomes quite enjoyable.

  • @pineapplepileus8719
    @pineapplepileus8719 Рік тому +1

    Learn how to deflect attacks good and your golden

  • @KarkarasMJ
    @KarkarasMJ Рік тому +4

    Ok, but what about the performance, other than crashes? The demo was awfully optimised.

  • @chriswest6988
    @chriswest6988 Рік тому

    So to paraphrase, if you are at max level for an area, you _probably_ won't get one-shot by the boss? What are the exceptions?

    • @vienna0810
      @vienna0810 Рік тому

      I just fought the first and second boss - no one shotting at all so far - the enemies definitely hit less hard than in nioh

  • @Alloveck
    @Alloveck Рік тому +1

    So Wo Long kept the separate mostly linear stage game layout? Dang, that sucks.
    I've played the two Nioh games much longer than I'd care to admit, (and am currently chugging away on Dream of the Nioh in Nioh 2 no less,) and they definitely do a lot of things very, very right. But in both of them, the one thing I found the least right was how the overall game structure consisted of completely separate, mostly linear stages. Something more open world style would have been very strongly preferable. Say what you will, but linear hallway style world design is something I'm pretty much done with, even more so if the hallways aren't even all connected to each other. So it's a pretty big disappointment to find out that Wo Long kept the one part of Nioh where I hoped for change the most. Is the ability to explore and simply free roam when grinding for loot/amrita too much to ask?
    Still though, I appreciate that this review mentioned that part right front and center. This series does a consistently good job of quickly and concisely giving me the review information I actually want and need. Key game design facts over actual gameplay, the way a video review should be.

    • @iama187er
      @iama187er Рік тому +1

      I feel you but everyone would just bash it for being a discount Elden Ring

    • @Alloveck
      @Alloveck Рік тому

      @@iama187er Elden Ring didn't invent the open world concept either, so at worst, Open Nioh would just be copying the same homework Elden Ring did.
      Besides, a bigger, more explorable world was the one thing I wanted most from Dark Souls too. (But it already had a better layout in the first place since its linear hallways were at least all connected.) So no way I'd be mad at Nioh for making the same improvement Dark Souls already did.

    • @iama187er
      @iama187er Рік тому

      @@Alloveck No it didn't which I'm fully aware, however I'm also fully aware people can be dicks

    • @Alloveck
      @Alloveck Рік тому

      @@iama187er Alright, fair enough.

  • @fnkyron
    @fnkyron Рік тому

    So Nioh3?

  • @ForNeverAfter
    @ForNeverAfter Рік тому +1

    I streamed it for a couple hours, I didn’t feel that satisfied honestly.. the combat feels good and fun.. but the first two levels are so small and the first boss has a second phase that took numerous attempts to get past.. I had to stop and grind up some levels it seems just to survive alittle easier against the first boss, where you do such small chip damage and only get 3 heals..
    second area is kinda the same.. smallfry enemies that are easy and a tough boss in comparison afterwards.. but at that point you can do coop..
    but yeah.. so far I’m finding the game pretty mid, i found it pretty easy to put down and I could not tell you what the hell is going on in the story..
    It’s not elden ring, but it has potential, I just need to give it more of a chance :) which I’ll do tomorrow

    • @shanegale6143
      @shanegale6143 8 місяців тому

      no one cares about your streams sorry

  • @Garruk_80
    @Garruk_80 Рік тому

    They threw even more! stats , numbers , skill trees and micro management in there than nioh 2!
    whats with team ninja and numbers ?
    can't they make a simpler system

  • @TheZoidexExperience
    @TheZoidexExperience Рік тому +1

    Character creation is a big part of this game you failed to mention it

  • @Ryanubet35
    @Ryanubet35 Рік тому +2

    Recursive I see what you did there Yatsee

  • @elizabethlestrad5282
    @elizabethlestrad5282 Рік тому

    "Rather than a plot..."
    So...there's not an overarching story?

    • @manjiimortal
      @manjiimortal Рік тому

      There is, as they're following the Romance of the Three Kingdoms highlights, but your character doesn't seem to have any impact on it, and the support characters contribute nothing to the narrative. Your character just sorts of gets mixed on a number of famous ROTK battles/incidents, while trying to track down the main bad guy, who just happens to be giving his powers to the opposite forces.

  • @timmyman9677
    @timmyman9677 Рік тому

    So if NioH with a kick ass animation budget

  • @SamuraiMujuru
    @SamuraiMujuru Рік тому +3

    Been sinking a decent bit of time in the demo, Wo Long may very well even top the genuine Soulsborne titles in the genre.

    • @dankwojak3689
      @dankwojak3689 Рік тому +1

      thats a tall claim

    • @SamuraiMujuru
      @SamuraiMujuru Рік тому

      @@dankwojak3689 it definitely is, but damn is combat fun in Wo Long

  • @vadimyakus
    @vadimyakus Рік тому

    Why do we need another Nioh again?

  • @nmarrs8539
    @nmarrs8539 Рік тому +3

    I’m sorry Nioh is just too hard I’m a souls vet and Nioh 2 was just too much. If this game is anything like them I’ll pass.

    • @SymmetricalDocking
      @SymmetricalDocking Рік тому +8

      Their combat systems are deceptively different. Dark Souls is about preparation and good decision making while not getting impatient, Nioh is about *FAST* reflexes.

    • @vVAstrAVv
      @vVAstrAVv Рік тому +5

      Niohs not hard (especially 2) you just have to understand and use all the tools it puts at your disposal.
      Being a souls vet you probably fell into the trap of min maxxing your levels and not utilizing your ninjutsu and magic. But they have massive advantages for even the purest melee builds

    • @aizazizzat6060
      @aizazizzat6060 Рік тому

      ​@vVAstrAVv maybe show him slow talisman from nioh 1.

    • @diegosaez4885
      @diegosaez4885 Рік тому

      Quite the contrary: Based on the demo and most reviews, Wo Long is universally hard during the tutorial area until the first boss. There after is easy with episodes of borderline unfairness.
      The reason to be easy is build variety doesn't alter the optimized core loop of hit-and-run, dodge and Fatal Blow the enemy, plus the morale system being too kind on the player to trivialize enemy encounters including bosses.
      So it ends up a matter of leaning how to deflect/parry attacks. If you do, the game its easier than its promoted.

    • @fufu5068
      @fufu5068 Рік тому +3

      @@aizazizzat6060 Nioh - sloth talisman
      Nioh 2 - cats
      EZPZ

  • @davidmurphy7332
    @davidmurphy7332 Рік тому

    Yes, the flag system is a good way to motivate players to explore the levels thoroughly because Lord knows Team Ninja is incapable of doing that by making the game's levels actually interesting. As per usual with TN's take on the Souls-like genre, Wo Long has a lot of very interesting systems but is otherwise entirely uninteresting

  • @mondayadams8166
    @mondayadams8166 Рік тому

    Yup. The demo put me off but the fact that they're really tryna be sekiro? No f7ckin thanks man I'll just wait for lies of p thanks lmao
    Great review kc!!!

    • @mondayadams8166
      @mondayadams8166 Рік тому

      @@DR3ADNOUGHT what does that have to do with anything tho?

    • @mondayadams8166
      @mondayadams8166 Рік тому

      @@DR3ADNOUGHT the posture bar mechanic that's only ever been in one other game begs to differ man

  • @Brad-lt2re
    @Brad-lt2re Рік тому +1

    Such a disappointing game I really hope they just forgot about this failing and try again with nioh 3.

  • @di3inglife
    @di3inglife Рік тому +3

    bro its free on xpass
    wtf u people high? just play it lmfao