@@missstranger7697 I mean ngl he deserved love. It's just people needed to understand the immense value of his literal role. Kishi also sucks at romance Also yes in term buildup NaruSaku makes so much more sense then NaruHina even though NaruHina is cuter. NaruSaku narratively makes MORE SENSE. At least before you bring crap like The Last in here.
Do not forget that in Boruto episode when Sakura was talking with Ino, she says to her that their date lasted ONLY one minute!!! I was mindblown when I watched it🤯
that was so sad I hate how she’s always a punching bag like wtf? why did Kishimoto make them canon if their relationship is a joke? idk but SasuSaku and NaruHina always felt like some sort of compensation for the awful writing and treatment the girls received so at least they got who they wanted. And that’s good. I suppose.
@@aaehguf bruh its actually crazy that you ppl believe this shit. sakura said there was something BETTER than a kiss to her DAUGHTER how does that imply they didn't kiss? mind you, there is a canon scene where sarada teases her dad about having lipstick on his lips and he actually rubs it away.. WHY would he do that if they don't kiss often??? they also traveled the world together and had sarada and YES sasuke stayed with them when she was a baby until she was 3. he left bc there were kaguya remains discovered. in the manga, a pregnant sakura was in the meetings with naurto sasuke and the 5 kage discussing sasuke needing to make his mission super PRIVATE. this man has always shown he has cared for her but ofc the anime leaves all that out bc they are SAKURA HATERS. why does he get so much hate for trying to kill her when SHE tried to kill him those TWO times. he respects her so much as a doctor, saying her healing hands are his pride and joy. "He knows karin more" WHAT IS THIS GIRL SAYING??? PLEASE tell me what tf he knows about Karen besides she gets off when ppl bite her?????? he brutally killed her. genin sasuke praised her, noticed when she was depressed and stressed with the chunin exams so he PRAISED her in front of everyone and boosted her self esteem. he knows shes a medical ninja when she comes to kill him. how the hell would he know that when he hasn't seen her after 3 years?? no soft touches or smiles? STFU abt SS if u don't know them. he softly touched her hair when he set her down, asked the dog to protect her, carried her onto a bench when he left AND moved the garbage can away from her, its sasuke we are talking about - he is an introvert and SO shy but he is possessive. the amount of times he gets jealous. he told his daughter he . he put her in the genjutsu at the end TO KEEP HER SAFE. he literally says that - she would probably get in the way. BITCH - "he never once impressed by her strength" he straight up says "my wife is not weak", smirks when she punched a GIANT CRATER in the ground, said "naruto, you better not DRAG us down", smirked when she joined them when they reuinted in the war, "I know your strength, but its dangerous." Kakashi tried to explain she just wants to save her and this man said "are you suggesting I enjoy a romance" like dude who mentioned anything about love?? you act like he constantly belittled her when he called her annoying the second time as a way to show he does in fact remember that day he got so mad at her near the bench. but saying he cared about karin more?? he ignored her and told her to get back when she tried to seduce him at first, the reason why he isn't that rude is cus he needed her powers, he cared more abt jugo than her. what do u want her to call her a bitch? he literally went soft around sakura everytime she hugged him, was gentle with her, canonally got jealous when sakura smiled at the thought of naruto being the one to save her from gaara, he kept remembering her smile for naruto in the manga, kishi SAID he loved her since the beginning but was blinded by hatred, she was the only one he opened up to in the THIRD ep, and in one of the manga covers (ch 363) it says "he threw away LOVE, friends, and his village. whats left is only his name and his motivation" wow its almost liked traumatized and horribly broken ssasuke couldn't be happy and purse love or any relationship bc he was blinded by hatred and revenge but later when he learned the truth and atoned for his sins he was able to let himself love and love he did. he respects sakura, praising her, is proud of his amazing strong wife, would love her wrinkles (as he softly touches her eyes), would go crazy if she dies (demonstrated in boruto when he cant find her), get frustrated when sakura changed her hair style and sarada gets older and he cant be there to see it, apologizes for the troubles he's put her through and she waves him off why? bc she knows HE IS THE ONLY ONE who can use rinnegan to look for kaguya remains to keep them SAFE.
The fact that they don't even have a wedding pic and sasuke didn't even know how couples work..is the biggest proof they're not married, they just live in the same house which is maintained by Sakura. And yet people think they're ‘perfect’, which is beyond my understanding. 😂
Even then he only gave her courtesy comradeship as part of their Shinobi profession but that instantly vanished the moment he went rogue. Take note of how importantly emotional it was for Sakura declaring her 'love' for him while he simply brushed it off with a simple thank you before KOing her and vanishing. His own goals always took precedant over her infatuation.
@ManelOum-u8y fr, ik ppl say “oh he also tried to take Naruto’s life too” yea that was bc he was (trying, he couldn’t at the end break his bond with Naruto bc he is the closest and most important person to him, he was tryna do what Itachi did. He clearly said he was tryna kill Sakura bc she was in the way
Honestly, the major issue I had with this couple isn't the couple itself, it's the fact that the story made it seem like Sakura was destined to get over Sasuke at some point and notice Naruto. Like I get the idea of it but just like NaruHina, Kishi prioritised trolling over actual quality writing again with this one. Because at one point, Sakura tried punching Sasuke when they first reunited to protect Naruto from him and tried to kill him herself for his sake. Hell, he even had Sakura willingly try to feed Naruto in Shippuden after he injured himself, she never did that with Sasuke ever. It was such a huge contrast from when she was hesitant to feed Naruto back when Kakashi was first training them too. She even threatened Sai after he noticed how worried she was about Naruto. He intentionally insulted him in front of her because he knew she was ready to defend his honor. Hell, Naruto is the reason why she even decided to become a damn medical ninja. She couldn't stand seeing her friend get hurt over and over for her sake so she wanted to stand by him and help him in return. Also what the hell was that talk about feelings with Yamato when Sakura was crying about not being able to properly help Naruto again after turning four tails? And while on that subject, the hug, why was she the one that got to hug him after he defeated Nagato and not Hinata? I thought that was supposed to be Hinata's moment? Wasn't the plan this whole time to be NaruHina/SasuSaku, what the heck was that? Everything she did was for Naruto, never Sasuke yet her feelings said otherwise? That's what frustrates me because Kishi is having her say one thing but has her do something completely contradictory. Like if she's supposed to be in love with Sasuke, why are the most selfless and romantic looking things she's done throughout the series was for Naruto and not Sasuke? Like yeah the fake confession thing was bad but that doesn't really remove all of the things she has done for Naruto throughout the series. She went from seeing him as a major nuisance to actually wanting to see him achieve his goals and be happy to the point where whenever somebody questions Naruto as a person, she's ready to defend how great of a person he actually is. She has never done that with Sasuke, heck, I'm pretty sure she doesn't even approve of his "goals" and has never shown to give him support out of selfless reasons. She only wanted to "support" him because she apparently "loves" him, that's it. Meanwhile, she supports Naruto 24/7 without any reason other than she just wants to see her friend succeed in life. And it's not like that's just limited to Sakura either. We've seen time and time again how much Naruto was willing to set aside his own feelings if it meant making Sakura happy. Their supportiveness of one another is mutual, unlike SasuSaku which had nothing until Boruto tried to do damage control. And people wonder why some people like NaruSaku over SasuSaku? It also doesn't help that Sasuke has treated her like complete crap throughout the entire series. Like Naruto at least was indifferent towards Hinata for the most part, Sasuke straight up tried to kill Sakura on multiple occasions. It feels like Kishi wanted to do the Vegeta/Bulma thing with this couple but he failed to realise that Vegeta has never treated Bulma poorly. For one, he never attempted to murder her once. Sure he insulted her when they first met, but he was quick to bend to her will after she showed no signs of backing down. Not to mention Vegeta as time passed actually grew to love his family and acknowledged how much he's been lacking as a husband and a father and tries to make up for it. Never seen Sasuke do that because just like the excuse with Naruto in Boruto, he's always "busy"..... sigh... Like yeah, he clearly loves his family now but they never show it. Kishi really has a huge exposition problem with this kind of stuff. Also, unlike Bulma is with Vegeta, Sakura feels like a completely different character with Sasuke. Every time she's with him, she becomes a complete doormat that feels like a stuttering Hinata clone. Her spunkiness and opinionated nature goes out the window as soon as he's in the picture. Also, it's small but I like how Kishi completely forgot that it was Naruto that complimented Sakura about her forehead disguised as Sasuke so does Sakura still not know that yet? Lol If you ask me, the story should've ended with Sasuke dead because I feel like that was the only way he could actually be redeemed because talking about this now, I'm starting to have problems with his friendship with Naruto. Because honestly, Shikamaru looks more of a best friend to Naruto than Sasuke ever was if you really sit down and think about it, lol Or the other alternative would be like if the idea was to have Sasuke be shy around Sakura, why not have instead of having Sasuke question why she even likes him, have him show some form of regret of leaving her? Have him wonder why he feels heavy every time his thoughts go back to Sakura? Have Sakura actually call him out on his wrongdoings and show him flabbergasted by it. Instead of trying to stab her, have him hesitate to even touch her right before Naruto makes the save. Just SOMETHING to show some form of attraction from his end. With Sakura, just don't have her be a friggin doormat around him. Have her treat him like how she treats Naruto and Sai, that way it would feel more natural. I would've loved to see Sakura put Sasuke in his place the same way Bulma does Vegeta when he acted out and it would help with her character development too. There's a reason people love that relationship, especially in Dragon Ball Super while SasuSaku remains controversial even to this very day...
this entire comment is a MASTERPIECE 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Thank you! This is exactly why this couple just does not work canon wise! We get told this and that about Sasuke and Sakura but we never SEE it happen and what we do see only reinforces the argument that they’re just unhealthy for each other. I know Sasuke Retsuden tries to make their chemistry appear more natural, or convince us that it exists at all, but Sasuke’s contemplation and actions just convinces me that he doesn’t romantically care about Sasuke. Maybe he appreciates her more and likes her far more than he did when he was a teen but without telling Sakura or showing that he cares or admitting he needs to do better as Sakuras husband, all his thinking won’t matter in the end if there’s no action following it. And you know how I know I’m convinced of this? Because if it had been Naruto in Sasuke’s position, the difference in behavior toward Sakura would be NIGHT AND DAY.
@@DayDayDoes the issue really with Sasuke Retsuden is that it feels like both Sasuke and Sakura are completely different characters, especially Sasuke. Like Boruto in general tries convince us that Sasuke was a jerk to Sakura simply because he's too shy to admit his true feelings, aka, what Toriyama did with Vegeta when it comes to Bulma. The difference is nothing about that makes any sense because the only basis Kishi has for that is when Sasuke said goodbye to her in Part 1 and even that didn't indicate any romantic feelings towards her. And the fact that again, he tried to kill her multiple times and even undermined her feelings for him by questioning what she even sees in him doesn't help. Toriyama at least showed how much Vegeta actually loves Bulma. Not only did Toriyama have Vegeta admit he's been a bad dad to Trunks, he even had Vegeta say to Trunks to go apologize to Bulma for him for being an ungrateful husband right before he sacrificed himself to try and save everyone. Heck, he even went rage mode against the God of Destruction when he sees her get slapped by him and actually screamed "MY BULMAAAA!!!", has Sasuke ever done something like that? And again, the fact that both Vegeta and Bulma don't feel like totally different characters when they're seen together onscreen helps too. Neither character loses their individuality while Sakura turns into a generic Hinata clone and Sasuke turns into an even more awkward version of Sai. Both their spunk and opinionated nature gets squashed in favor of the bland, whatever the hell 'chemistry' Kishi thinks they supposedly have. Seriously, why do these two act like themselves the most around Naruto but not with each other? I get that it's supposed to show how much Naruto means to the two of them but come on now. Then again, Naruto himself also loses his personality whenever he's with Hinata but not with Sasuke or Sakura so I guess it all evens out? Lol It feels like Kishi tried to do what Toriyama did but failed to understand what made it work. It felt more like he was trying to make their relationship look bad on purpose while trying to convince us they're meant to be. I honestly don't know which couple got the worse treatment tbh. Naruto getting slapped with the stupid stick and being guilt tripped into falling for Hinata via genjutsu against his will or Sasuke magically having feelings for Sakura with the only justification is because they have a daughter together and yet Sasuke barely shows any affection even after that. It really does feel like both Naruto and Sasuke only settled for them because the plot demanded for it because they both have a million times more chemistry with each other than they do with their own wives, lmao
@@AshWatson-jh8xs Sasuke’s entire character personality does not excuse his actions. I may be looking at it from a Western lense but no woman should have to feel like a single mother for 13 years doing all the physical and emotional labor in a one-sided marriage while the husband remains absent from not just her life, but also the child’s. Even the new Sasuke novel confirms that he didn’t realize couples being around each other consistently was important or supposed to be a thing! If you like SS, that’s perfectly fine, but Sasuke needs to 👏🏽 do better 👏🏽 as a husband and father because mans is trash at both.
@@AshWatson-jh8xs You do have a point that Sakura has done a few selfless acts for Sasuke, you’re right there. It’s not entirely selfish. And she does become a medical ninja to contribute and catch up to her team, though I don’t recall saying otherwise. However I do want to make a rebuttal. My preference for a canon NS is not because of SP. I loathe SP with a burning passion and have only ever used evidence from the manga to see that NS was a viable option. Kishimoto himself has said on record that the NS moments in the manga were a “red herring” from the “true pairing” which is dumb because he only confused his audience and made the end pair of NH and SS look terrible and a laughing stock. Especially because of how awful Sasuke’s actions towards Sakura were towards the latter half of the manga. A simple “sorry” isn’t going to cut it. Plus he caused so much unnecessary discourse and fight between his audience instead of building up the canon couples. It’s not smart and super messy.
Something about you talking about Karin and Sasuke had me thinking... What if the writer actually intended for him to end up with Karin at one point? Considering she's revealed to be an Uzumaki it would have made their union all the more important since she's related to Naruto, solidifying their bond as brothers more impactfully
Karin was always a joke bruh, you just have to read the interactions to realize is not deep or serious. Kishimoto is just that kind of dude that introduces characters, gives the. something interesting for a background but never uses it to the fullest potential. Karin could be a Six Paths descendant and no one in universe would care.
Kishimoto was extremely biased towards Sasuke and it shows in all Sasuke's relationships. He betrayed Naruto? Naruto thinks he is his best friend. He tried to kill Karin? She forgives him almost instantly. Sakura actually isn't the most egregious example. Sasuke killed Kimimaro's master (Orochimaru). Despite this, Jugo is loyal to Sasuke because..he thinks that Kimimaro would want that. He abandoned Jugo and Suigetsu (he would've used them as meat shields like Karin if given the chance) but they still came crawling back to him. He even makes the villains obsess over him. He betrays Orochimaru but Orochimaru later on comes back, and wants to help him.
I forgot where but someone mentioned that Sasuke suffers no outside consequences for his actions. Some are justified I do admit, but he has caused A LOT of harm and controversy and where he some other non-Uchiha ninja without Naruto as a friend, his ass would have been locked up in a prison somewhere, no out roaming free.
No he wasn't biased at all. Well yeah because he is his best friend. Which is a issue on her part really. Which yeah Kimimaro would have wanted that. They didn't come crawling back to him they just wanted to find out where he was. Which makes sense being the last living Uchiha and all. Which also makes sense for Orochimaru's curious nature.
@@DayDayDoes Sasuke already havwe his entire Clan killed. He was only fight for justice. No he deserves everything good and i was happy how he was capable to steal Sakura and let Naruto with the silver medal Hinata.
To be fair he freed Suigetsu from the water tank prison thing and helped him get Zabuza's sword plus Suigetsu's very laid back and clearly likes fighting and being near Sasuke, he could easily vanish at any time and Sasuke wouldn't even have a reason to chase him As for Jugo him being loyal to Kimimaro makes sense, Sasuke is considered to be a Momento of Kimimaro so by protecting him his best and first friend's spirit lives on, and neither him nor Kimmimaro should be loyal to Orochimaru at all since the guy just took advantage of them and used them in experiments so Jugo should be pleased Sasuke killed him off, also Sasuke provides the use of his sharingan to calm down Jugo's rage allowing him to experience live outside a prison etc so they are "friends" for a reason, and to be fair Jugo of all characters would be a poor judge of friends since he's so mentally unstable so he wouldn't notice or mind in the fight v Killer B Sasuke does look at team Taka as a reflection of Team 7 and they seem to be friends, but..that is before he betrays Karin and yeah past the Kage summit it's very odd that Taka/Orochimaru all join up and help him, even them agreeing to help Orochimaru at all is very weird
as a former Sakura who was with a Sasuke I am happy to say I have been with my Lee for 13 years this December and I whole heartedly endorse this video’s message
pls I’ve been saying for years that Sakura and Lee would’ve been a perfect match and ppl never listen! if he was more conventionally attractive this ship would be soooo popular omg. Also, congrats on your win🩷
I’m gonna be honest, if Kishimoto said Sasuke was asexual and/or aromantic. I would have completely believed him. He just never, throughout the entire series, ever expressed any feelings towards anyone (and yes that also includes Naruto. His feelings towards him were entirely based around brotherhood and mutual respect. Love never entered the equation and the few times it did, like their kiss, it was treated as a joke by Kishimoto. Seriously, Naruto is one of the most heteronormative series in anime. I highly doubt that he ever intended for there to be any homoerotic subtext between them) and that never changed from start to finish.
Sasuke being aromatic makes sense. To be honest, it would’ve been fine if he stayed single and him and Sakura were just co-parents to Sarada. Hell, their current relationship is practically like that, with him being an absentee parent/husband; why bother having them married or forcing a relationship? And for Sakura having Sasuke’s kid, she could just want to be a single mother and willingly choose Sasuke to be her sperm donor (or volunteered to be his baby maker to keep his bloodline alive). They also could’ve done blended family rep, by having Sakura marry someone else (who loved her) and gave Sarada a step-dad (or adopted, since Sasuke isn’t in the picture and Sarada grows to love her step/adopted father more).
Honestly, I would prefer it if Sakura just moved on from Sasuke. She acknowledges her feelings for him were just an adolescent crush and she tries to find someone who will actually love her in return. This would have given her something she doesn't have in the series and that’s a character arc. Sure at the end of the day, it’s swapping one dude for another, but she’s at least proving that she can be happy without being with Sasuke. Ideally, this person should have been Naruto for many reasons, but studio Pierrot killed that idea, so Rock Lee is the next best option.
@@yuhhare2441 That's one of the problems with Kishimoto in general, he's very utilitarian with his character writing. When he creates a character, he designs them to fulfill a single or set of purposes to advance the plot and that's it. Once they have fulfilled their purpose and are no longer needed for the story, they will be tossed aside and ignored unless it somehow ties back to that singular plot function. Because of this, the cast of Naruto is incredibly flat and static, since most of them are not allowed to grow, change, or even regress out of their assigned roles since then Kishimoto wouldn't be able to tell his story. This isn't an inherently awful way of writing stories, but it also means your characters will be too busy serving the plot instead of having their stories told. Typically you want the characters and plot to work together instead of sacrificing one for the benefit of the other. There's no better example of this than with Sakura Haruno. She was designed to be the third wheel to prop up the Team 7 Love triangle, and because of that limited focus, everything she did had to in some way revolve around that plot function. Sakura becomes a ninja so she can be with Sasuke, she wants to become stronger so she can be useful to Naruto, and never develops any other desires, goals, or interests unless they also serve Naruto's or Sasuke's stories. If you removed them from the equation, then Sakura would cease to exist as a character because there is nothing about herself that sustains her as a character that exists independently of Naruto or Sasuke. Sakura's IQ could be 50 million but unless it somehow benefits Naruto or Sasuke, it's not going to mean anything.
The funny thing is in all this Shikamaru and temari just works. and i believe it happend on accident and since he never did anything whit it it remained working,
Really not here to fight but apparently this ship was planned at the start. Really the ship isn't horrible well if you look closely sasuke actually cares for sakura (to be fair it's more obv in the manga) technically he def did cause she was her teammate but kishi is really horrible when it comes to romance, their relationship could be portrayed out so much better. I get why you guys said how this ship is 'toxic' but for some reason this ship just owns a special place in my heart (probably because of their genin moments-). Sasuke retsuden tho>>> you can't say their marriage is forced after reading that :(
@@lazycora2832 I don't want to argue, but Even if the statement is accurate and SS was planned from the beginning, the execution was atrocious. Sasuke, in the original feelings for Sakura, was a comrade at best and apathetic at worst. In Shippuden, his attitude towards her is indifferent to malicious. It’s 15 years of content and most of which is negative interactions. Sakura does all the labor in that relationship (emotional work, child rearing, finances, housework, and saving his ass). Sasuke, on the other hand, is never home, and all the information gathered against the Otsosuki he finds is useless until Sarada is 12. While I’m enjoying Sasuke Retsuden, It does not make up for 15 years of apathy and malicious actions toward each other. I do not believe Kishimoto is bad at Romance. He did fine with Minato x Kushina, Tsunade x Dan, and Koran x Yahico, and he did a decent job developing the relationship between Naruto and Sakura. He did not care for now NH and SS and gave them the bare minimum because the fandom preferred these two relationships more. The only thing holding their marriages together is the delusion and what the women are willing to put up with. It’s not all bad. I do love fan art and fanfiction, and I do love Sarada. If they did more to develop the relationship, I would be down for it.
Sasuke feels jaded and depressed to me, it seems like he gave up on everything he ever wanted. He wanted to repopulate his clan so he would need a girl for that at one day but he get's forced into a marriage, a daughter and that's it, once she grows up to marry, Uchiha name is gone. He seems completely antisocial, not even understanding the basic human interaction, yet alone a romantic one. Sakura should've just moved on, that would be the best character development for her.
It honestly does, in a future where he apparently comes to term with all that’s happened, it feels/comes across like he’s unsatisfied with everything. He doesn’t have to be a social butterfly but Not even at least communicate with your wife or kid???
I don’t think he put too much thought into this because what if his daughter doesn’t end up with someone and she never gets a kid of her own when she grows up. That means that she would be last of the clan. I don’t think that’s a problem because having kids just for a clan to live on doesn’t sound like a good idea. Like you said about Sasuke, he doesn’t know too much about human interaction. I rather Sakura moving on and giving up her feelings for Sasuke.
@@renflower1910 That's why I feel like he just gave up, if his daughter marries, she'll take her husband last name too so Uchiha clan is pretty much gone. She really should've moved on, find a happy relationship or be the one lucky girl that didnt end up as a house wife. As for Sasuke, he needed a completely new character as his girl because as it is, there's no female character that would be a good fit for him except maybe Temari but she's obviously taken.
As much as I like Sasuke I agree, however when his entire clan was killed in front of eyes it was sort of “replayed” with itachi’s genjitu for thousands of times, so it makes sense he’d go insane. No one bothered to understand him or try to help and instead they put him on a pedal stool. Well except for Naruto, and orochimaru states how if he hadn’t intervened then Sasuke wouldn’t have left and would have forgotten about revenge. I know that it wasn’t relevant to your comment but I wanted to point out he did have someone that cared about him a lot and someone who didn’t put him on a pedal stool like sakura also did. I also said that to agree that Sasuke and sakura really shouldn’t have ended up together, with Sasuke being distant, cold, and traumatized and sakura acting more like a fan girl rather than his partner. I especially hate how her characterization gets thrown away whenever Sasuke is near her and she reverts to her 13 year old self
sasusaku always felt to me like the "girl who doesn't like guy eventually gives in to his so-called affections because the guy won't leave her alone" trope but, like, with opposite genders so it's okay and good actually /sarcasm
when i first started reading fanfiction i didnt like sakura. but then i actually reread the manga and i realized my perception was skewed by shitty writers
The fact that Sakura fans who claim to genuinely love Sakura are happy with her ending up with sasuke despite the latter tried to kill her multiple times, belittled her, disrespected her, was okay letting her roast in the lava or being stabbed.. just because she eventually got the man she had been pining for.. IS pure garbage. She had little to no dignity as well as self-respect at all but people don't think about it. Glad you are one of those Sakura lovers who knows how terrible SS is..
Nah fr I'm a Sakura fan myself and I dislike SasuSaku because Sasuke treated Sakura like crap and he's not good for her mental health. Like you mentioned, Sasuke tried to kill sakura, belittled and disrespected her, etc. On top of that, after they had Sarada, he just leaves them for 10+ years making Sakura a single mom who raises Sarada all by herself...like WTAF? Sasuke didn't even visit them once during the decade (like bro, out of the ten years you couldn't even take out a single day to visit your wife and daughter?). He's a deadbeat dad and a deadbeat husband. Sasuke honestly should've just stayed single and alone, he was better off that way. Also, Sakura had wayy more chemisty with Naruto and she should've either ended up with him or maybe even Rock Lee (they would've treated her so much better). Or, I wouldn't mind if Sakura just became single and independent, focusing on being head of the medical department, doing missions, taking care of the orphanages/children's mental health clinics she found/owns, teaching medical ninjutsu, etc and just living her life and having fun. She deserved so much better than that emo duck. But then again, most SasuSaku are usually pretty young, between the ages of like 11 to young adulthood. So, they don't really understand how toxic SS is. A relationship like SS in real life would result in the girl needing so much therapy to heal afterwards.
While I do believe what Sasuke did to Sakura was terrible, the worst thing was that Sakura was put in the damsell in distress trope that made her victim card so strong. While I do respect Sakura as a character, I can't say I am her fan because I find her annoying.
@@shahilsheikh1544 I had an argument over it recently. These people's go-to argument is always dragging Hinata into this mess for not being strong enough? like tf does that have to do with sasusaku being trash?
He didn't treat her like crap bruh imagine being a fan of a girl is more like a creep than a actual loving person is beyond me I don't understand people who act like Sasuke didn't have the right to treat her that way.@@lav3nder.bxrbiee334
I do not understand how people can claim they love Sakura and still ship her with Sasuke. I see what Sasuke gets out of the relationship. She loves/cares for him unconditionally, she forgives him no matter what, she's essentially a submissive wife in Boruto. She puts his happiness above her own, she never gets angry or even upset over his absence, she isn't allowed to miss him. Sakura has much better options, even the man who proposed to her in the War arc would have been better for her since he actually appreciated her more than Sasuke ever does in Boruto. Despite this, Sasuke and Sakura have the most fanfiction/fanarts. It's only Sakura fans who make this stuff. Sasuke fans rarely ship him.
Im a Sasuke fan and i loves Sakura because she loves my Fav Character. Also most of the Sakura fans support her because she really loves him and they are fans of Sasuke's character too. Its impossible to like a character. If you want to erase her feelings. Did you ever read anything or are just creating excuses out of your ass?
Because Sasuke is a better character than Naruto. SasuSaku fans are Sasuke and Sakura fans. Sasuke is a real flawed Character who carried the entire plot in his back and Naruto a boring gary stu. Also you need to read Boruto more and the novels. Sasuke is clearly a good husband and Sakura is happy.
@@ketsueki708Thank the Gary Stu for making that worthless ship happen. Otherwise Sasuke would’ve finished what he started by slitting Sakura’s throat.
I absolutely HATE this ship being cannon (and boruto as a whole, but that's not the point) There's just too much wrong with it. I hate not only that it was obviously done for pure fan service rather than to contribute to the story, but I also hate the message it perpetuates. Of course, fiction is fiction and it shouldn't be that deep, but it bugs me so much to see how this just reinforces the idea that in order to have a fufilling life and be respected you must get married and have kids. In order for Sasuke to be redeemed he must marry the woman he rejected over and over again and have a child. Anyone with a brain can see that, while Sasuke has improved himself and became a better person he is absolutely not suited to be a good husband or parent. The way in wich he neglects his daughter is proof of this. Why couldn't he live a good and redeemed life without the need of having a traditional family when he never showed any interest in this in the first place? Not to mention the trauma and pain he caused to Sakura and showing her still loving him and wanting to be with him is just a terrible example for young impresionable girls. IDK that's just my perspective.
This times a thousand!! Honestly Sasuke being single would have been better for him. He’s got so much to work through. Getting married only seemed to hurt Sakura and make her feel even lonelier. If she hadn’t had Sarada, I’m convinced she would have resented Sasuke. If they needed an Uchiha heir, a long lost child from Itachi or a less conventional style of parenting would have suited Sasuke. It didn’t have to be traditional, but authors and writers in media typically go that route because that’s what society expects. I’m kind of guilty of it too ngl, but at least I can acknowledge when such an ending is not suited to a particular character. Single Sasuke would have been better and made him protective of what he almost ruined for his teammates because of his actions.
In my opinion, this ship shows why Sasuke is an extremely poorly written character. People think it's just an issue with Sakura's writing and Sasuke is fine on his own. But, Sasuke gets forgiven easily by everyone. He emotionally manipulated Karin and after everything she did for him, he sacrificed her against Danzo. People forget that he was going to kill Karin too just because Tobi told him to. Despite this, Karin instantly forgave him because "he's so cute" and even helps to deliver his child.
@@dattebayo-23453 Are you crazy?! Sasuke never manipulated anyone. Karin followed Sasuke by her own will. Sasuke said a plenty of times if anyone on Taka dislikes his plans. They are free to run away. Karin never did that and she was the one who returns to Sasuke at the War Arc. When Sasuke never even called her back.
Everyone trying to be sorry for Sakura when the only reason this relationship even exists is due to her insane obsession with the dude. It's Sasuke that I feel bad for who was forced into this by the author even though he made it clear many times that he isn't interested, I guess that was his punishment at the end of the story.
Justice for Sasuke! @JAM-hg4mp I laughed when Sasuke left and Sakura was a single parent. Sarada questioned if Sakura was the right woman for Sasuke. Remember when Sakura called Kabuto "four eyes" well guess what Sakura your Uchiha daughter has glasses. Turns out Sarada doesn't NEED glasses, she just thinks she wouldn't look like Sasuke (which backfires!). Poor Sasuke man...
@@JadeKuzumiSendju Sakura's obsession only exists because Kishimoto said she would be a terrible person if she moved on from him. That's why people feel bad for her, she should have moved on but her creator didn't let her and somehow flipped that into a bad thing
@@karabo171 Kishimoto: Sakura Haruno would be a terrible person for moving on from Sasuke. Me: Sakura Haruno would have standards and think wisely about her future. Realized that Sasuke is a loser and a bum. And everyone would like Sakura as a character better. Kishimoto: I don't get it...
@@JadeKuzumiSendju and on top of that imagine telling young girls to stay with the bum instead of looking for someone who would love and care for them. I don't understand what his intention here was. All I'm getting is "toxic relationships are fine and you would be terrible if you moved on from your terrible partner".
@@karabo171 Some say Sakura should be with Naruto. BUT it would be just like Hinata "The hero gets the girl" But Rock Lee sounds perfect for Sakura. Plus 8 open gates and one hundred strength seal are kinda similar. Both in taijutsu. Sakura and Lee just work together so well.
Unrelated but im so upset they made sasuke do the itachi forhead poke to sakura like what ?!?! It made absolutely no sense ? Itachi used to do it to gently push his brother away its not a fucking love gesture ! Cmon kishimoto do better 🤦🏽
It's crazy that by the end of the novel the only love gesture is SAKURA leans on HIM its not even sasuke that engages the gesture its so so ridiculous 🤣 no amount of studio pierrot damage control fillers and movies will fix my opinion on the Canon pairings whether it's naruhina sasusaku or else
The only reason why Sakura ended up with Sasuke is because Hinata ended up with Naruto...but this is not gonna change the fact that Naruhina is a fanservice couple it is underdeveloped because it wasn't planned. Naruto spent the entire manga ( years in-universe) loving sakura he loved her all the way up to the end of the war arc. Hinata was very clearly meant to be a side character with an unrequited crush, but she became a victim of her own popularity and go shoehorned into a position she was never meant to be in. I was super confused when I first read chapter 700 naruto never had any interest in hinata and sasuke any in sakura, yet out of nowhere they're married because they need kids for the sequel series, Boruto Fans didn't want to see Sakura with Naruto, I remember Kishimoto's interview in jump fiesta 2014 at the end of Naruto with Kobayashi, he literally admited that he has received a lot of hate letters from fans about Sakura, and that Hinata like Sakura didn't anything but her popularity just kept going up for reasons he ignored and that part way the story he started thinking whether he should make her the main heroine instead or at least gradually write her into direction of the heroine. At the end of the interview he downright confirms that the reason he did so was because Sakura was hated and he was pushed into making Hinata the new heroine of Naruto.
I wouldn’t like Naruto being with Sakura. The one bullies him even In Shippuden at times. She never ever apologized. There are times she cares about him but she never apologized about the things she made fun of him for. I wouldn’t ever get with someone who made fun of me for being an orphan. Sakura herself is toxic as hell. Naruto can easily do better than her and I’m glad she didn’t end up with Lee.
@@ichigokage Sakura doesn"t bully Naruto, and even for the orphan thing, it was in the beginning of the series when she was a litteral kid and just after that, she told herself to act nicer to him next time, if you've heard about something called development, when she cheers for him in the exam and acknowledge multiple times how he helped her. She began to care about him and even have a friendship and doesn't bully him, infact, she saved him multiples times and defends him when Sai insults him and even lied to him when he hurt her when possessed by Kyubi's chakra so he does not feel bed. Crazy to still say that she "bullies" him based on events that happened at the beginning of the series.
It's toxic, the author probably made them together for fan service because many fans wants them to be together. Sasuke cared for Sakura platonically. But never in a romantic way. This is always in the too 10 worse anime couples in history. Most likely self inserts like this. They insert themselves to sakura and ship her to sasuke because they like the idea of hot bad boy with a regular cute girl. That's why most sasusaku fans are girls
I can’t speak to what people feel. I can however say that Sasuke has only ever shown platonic actions toward Sakura, and at worst apathetic disregard. If I squint my eyes, maybe fond tolerance when she isn’t acting fangirly but that was in Part 1. Anything in Shippuden and Boruto I wouldn’t classify as healthy or romantic, especially when Sasuke is only making the effort because someone else prompts it instead Of it coming from him because he’s thoughtful of Sakura. Sigh.
@@LuizFRochaShe has no right to claim what preferences the fans should have, but she has the right to express her opinion and say that she finds fan's behaviour bad.
When you said SasuSaku fans are teenagers to young adults, it becomes clearer. At that age, I used to enjoy wattpad that was full of vampires kidnapping bland girl or possessive alpha werewolf stories or bad gangster boys 😅, it is the age range and they will hopefully grow out of it.
a lot of them don't, unfortunately, many of them are 30 years old and up still doing this. thank you, kishimoto, you absolute fuck head, for contributing to this quiet epidemic.
And I know you already pointed it out but I cannot stand the constant hypocrisy people have and continue to have when it comes to romance in this series. Like why is it that whenever Naruto's feelings for Sakura are discussed, people are so quick to sweep it under the rug and say he only "loved" her for shallow reasons because he didn't really know anything about her (which is BS, they've had the most screetime together in all of Team 7) but not with Sakura and Hinata? I've literally seen people ask if Naruto gets with Sakura, what happens to Hinata? Oh, so he's allowed to move on from his childhood crush but Hinata isn't? Sakura isn't allowed to move on despite the fact that it literally wasn't explained what she liked about Sasuke other than he's hot. Honestly, it really feels like most people are projecting when it comes to the romance in this series and that's why this blatant double standards keeps happening instead of trying to see the writing as it is...
@@DayDayDoes yeah, it also says a lot when even Naruto's official Japanese VA was surprised by who he ended up with. Kishi can say he planned it from the start all he wants, what the product says otherwise.
@@AshWatson-jh8xs she don’t have to, she could also be single or with anyone else as well, but if Sakura couldn’t have Sasuke, she probably would have ended up with Naruto because he was so patient with his love for her and not one to force her. She also loves him in her own way and if it should evolve into something more, then that’s cool. Friends to lovers is a thing. Plus shes had signs of maybe leaning towards him, it really depends.
Goddamm, also it could have been a good ending to Hinata's character arc to acknowledge that her crush on Naruto inspired her and helped her grow, and let it go becasue she doesn't need it anymore. She can instead support him as a friend and a clan leader. (Also the fact that Hinata didn't end up clan leader and abolished the caged bird seal is bullshit.)
@@noname144ableyou can really tell he was lying hinata barely exists in the manga Naruto foces on sakura all time remember what he said to minato about sakura being his girlfriend hinata ended with Naruto because of fan service
The panel where he said Sarada is the prove of their love, they do not look happy at all, especially Sasuke, it just screams “yeah unfortunately, got her off my back”
You explained why I think their relationship is badly written and why I don't like the Sasusaku pairing, without hating Sakura or Sasuke. Finally someone who likes the characters but finds their relationship underwhelming. I feel relieved. Thank you.
yesss every explanation I've watched almost all is just hating on either Sakura or sasuke. me personally glad they end up together but their writing is just so bad that it's painful to watch. i especially feel bad for sarada
It's interesting to see Kishimoto's feelings about relationships portrayed in his characters and the relationships he writes. I wonder how much of the story would have changed if he had learned more about relationships and their dynamics and played cleverly on that 🤔
Honestly, probably much better. His strength in platonic relationships is top tier but as soon as romance becomes involved, it’s a mess. Which is ironic because Minato and Kushina wasn’t a bad love story. Even for a shonen anime
@@DayDayDoeshe isn't bad the problem is all of them happened in the last minute like kishimoto said he planned naruhina form the beginning just look at the manga they barely interact with each other and hinata barely exists in the manga so it's obvious that he is lying
Nah, Sakura shouldn't have ended up with sasuke, but I'm so glad she didn't end up with Naruto either. She beats Naruto up all the time for the smallest things. Kakashi even keeps track of how far away Naruto lands after getting punched by Sakura. She treated Naruto terribly when they were young, jt wasnt until Sasuke called her annoying that she tried to be nice to Naruto. Only good ships are minato with kushina and shikamaru with Temari
Thank u soo so so so much for not saying that Sakura should’ve ended up with Naruto knowing damn well that Narusaku is also toxicated , mainly on sakura’s part because of how she unjustifiably treats him . Sakura doesn’t deserve someone like Sasuke and Naruto doesn’t deserve someone like Sasuke . Again thank u 🙏
@@Misty_Tomboy_Mermaid I read the manga first. She's not different, she still hit him, she was still mean to him. Her character was no different. Stop making things up to make yourself feel better
@@dattebayo-23453 abused her for no reason? He was getting chased every f"king where by a b"tch he verbally said that hate. Any physical damge she received from is 1000% deserved and vaild.
Ino dodged a huge bullet there. I’m glad she at least got to have a happy ending with a man who treats her right. Looking back now I can’t help but feel that this is the world’s way of punishing Sakura for throwing away a good and healthy friendship for a guy who would never make her happy and whole; just because her friend just so happened to crush on him as well. Never mind that her friend had no intention of making her crush known to her and was perfectly happy to continue their friendship without any drama getting in the way. Sadly Sakura just can’t seem to content with the idea of having normal healthy relationships with anyone. Anytime someone like Ino, Naruto, or Lee comes along and offers her an alternative she IMMEDIATELY picks the most toxic option available. I wish there was an in-story reason for this warped mindset she has. Like did her parents molest her as a child to the point where she equates any and all mistreatment and abuse she suffers at the hands of Sasuke as an act of love and affection? What a great and TRAGIC way of showing just how deep childhood wounds can follow you all the way to adulthood. Not only that but it would make her feel more on par with Naruto and Sasuke as far as tragic backstories are concerned. Because let’s face it, her being bullied for her forehead doesn’t pack the same punch as Naruto being shunned or Sasuke witnessing genocide.
@@MaggieCandy999 and weird enough,she has IQ of 175 (a brilliant person indeed) & Kishimoto really forgets about this,I don’t even think Sakura can be made this dumb,she has lots of potential but ending up being ruined
It funny how Naruto and Sakura put them self in the toxic relationship with sasuke even tho he told them to leave him alone but ppl still shit on him but dont hold the two dummies accountable Good video you explain yourself well
Your completely right, Sasuke did tell them to go away. At a certain point, Naruto and Sakura had it coming. You can’t force someone to be around if they don’t want to especially 24/7
After going through both pairings again, I just noticed another factoid about them. By any chance, did you also notice that both Naruto and Sakura didn't try to pursue one another simply because they both thought they would both be the happiest with the person that apparently "loved" them from the start? I don't know about you but the more I think about this, the more I notice why Kishi has failed to make both NaruHina and SasuSaku look legit. By trying way too hard to troll people and appeal to angsty teenagers, he unintentionally made NaruSaku look like the healthiest pairing out of all of them. At this point, they look like they're each others' "the one that got away" even when it's unintentional. It's hilarious how Naruto stopped trying to pursue Sakura because he thought she would be happier with Sasuke and Sakura didn't try to make a move on Naruto because she felt bad for Hinata and thought she deserved him more. Seriously, why is their supportiveness of each other mutual while NaruHina and SasuSaku has to be one-sided messes? Was Naruto even aware of Hinata's goals? And I'm still convinced Sakura never approved of Sasuke's goals until he had a change of heart at the last second....
as a fellow sakura stan, SHE DESERVED BETTER. her and naruto would have been a much more fulfilling couple. i feel having her recognize naruto and truly develop feelings for him as she understands him more and more would’ve been so much stronger. and i actually think that ability to overcome her love for sasuke and look at him in a much more objective way would be even more interesting. imagine the conversation between sasuke and sakura after he kills danzo if she’s actively holding him accountable and having a real conversation with him? even as an audience, going on that journey WITH sakura and having our idea of sasuke transform through her eyes would be really compelling. and it would help balance out the favoritism sasuke is handed throughout the whole series and change the dynamic between the three of them!!! sasuke should’ve ended the series either dead or in prison! the way naruto ends…man it just feels like nothing had any real weight to begin with. like nothing really mattered 🤷🏿♂️ i feel like the ending ships only emphasize this. one of the only characters that is done justice throughout this whole series is shikamaru!!! moral of the story is: don’t go to naruto if you’re looking for a good love story 😂
Both Naruto and Sakura deserved each other man... But Hinata, got in the way for that to happen and only Sasuke realised this. What kind of creepy stalker Hinata really was towards Naruto and the potential hapiness Sakura could have if she was with him instead...
Sasuke SMILED TO KARIN!!. Sasuke and Karin makes sense. At least they have both the same past, both activated for each other a whole power.. he said many times, thank you karin, went to her to see if she's okay,. Said sorry to her and karin can sense chakra so it was very genuine. Taka is perfect for sasuke and Karin suits him so much. Shes very confident, even argues with sasuke. Sasuke listens to her and even agrees with her... so much more happend between them.. even suigetsus statement implied they slept with each other in the hideout. Also why would sasuke be impressed by sakuras healing when he literally puts he's teeth in karins body to suck her chakra out to heal. He already has seen more haha. I mean even the biting to heal is so sexual and her moaning.. him saying to karin that he NEEDS her. In the manga it's said that the only kunochi Sasuke has acknowledged is karin and to him karin is the strongest (said in the manga), tobi said in danzo arc, that karin is sasukes personal favorite. Please do a video for SK oh and sasukes genjutsu to sakura.. it just shows he hates sakura.
Sasuke x Karin 💯 He even has a jutsu named Karin. He likes the color red. She has red hair. Sasuke and Karin have a better team duo and bonding. Sakura covers Karin's face (Karin helps deliver Sakura's baby) Why do people like Sakura? Karin has a better drip than Sakura.
Let's not forget that even when Karin was hurt and Sasuke told Sakura to kill her, Sasuke was ready to kill Sakura before she touched Karin! That blew my mind. Oh and Sasuke actually took team Taka/Hebi to go recover Karin, only to run into her escaping, where he apologised. Yes, I had to clean my ears, it was nonchalant but he apologised for hurting her. This boy did not even apologize to Sakura for nearly killing her.
If only more people in the fandom could debate why they think a couple is bad/wrong/toxic/unhealthy like that with out pulling other characters into it or personally attacking IRL people that would be nice but much like asking Sasuke to care about anyone but himself( and Naruto) is asking WAY too much. 33min time stamp I have to say i has been a while since i laughed so hard at what is really a serious moment but so many people think this is ok for a relationship. No doubt Sarada has seen/herd her mother crying herself to sleep at night as that has always bugged me about the SS couple no photos as well as zero content for 12-13 years not to mention all of the excuses and reasons she tells to Sarada and herself as to why Sasuke is never around is just sad and depressing. Often times i refer to Sasuke as the sperm donor and Naruto as her father see as he is the male figure in her life she looks up to. There is so much trash in Boruto that i am glad i gave up on it early i really tried but more aliens/god at the end of season 1 was enough for me now i think we god androids so it sees more like a bad knock off of "Give me DBZ with out copying DBZ" also is Aida? ment to be a succubus and yet no one see this weird she is hanging around the kids....outside of the gifs/clips of Sarada and Sakura fighting i want to learn nothing else about the series. Lastly why was any of this called Naruto when it has always been about Sasuke and the Uchiha? Like do anyone know who the Uzumaki are who Uzushio was attacked? Does Naruto even know Karin is family? because dam that last one one would think he would be over the moon to learn he had family In close i think as you said Sakura would of been better off with Naruto Lee alone or as i have often done with Kiba anyone at this point is better than Sasuke as all three named would of cared for and been there for her not to mention the fact Sakura and Naruto's friendship does not really exist in Boruto *sigh*
Aw thank you, i try 😭 you make so many good points. and yeah the whole SS dynamic is a mess and embarrassing. There’s just so little to work with to make it a natural pairing. I know Naruto isn’t a shoujo anime, but basic character interaction would have worked wonders for the believability aspect. Also, same. I hate that they’ve sidelined Sakura and Naruto’s friendship in Boruto because they didn’t want audiences to see how different Narutos chemistry is with Sakura and Hinata and Sakura’s with Sasuke and Naruto.
Objectively speaking they look really good with each other. Like it shows in the fanart, the light and dark color contrast between the two. But when you watch the show it’s a completely different story.
The color contrast looks good but overall I feel they look too off. Maybe because I am super into fashion and Sasuke always gets and has really good outfits meanwhile Sakura is the biggest fashion offender in the show. Pink (hair) and red (Sakura's outfit) also look really bad together. The bangle on her wrist is weird. Her NH wedding outfit was awful while everyone else was dressed to the 9s. When you place Sasuke and Sakura together it looks like prince x civilian. Worse would be if the show was some shojo or young adult fiction, Sakura (in terms of aesthetic) seems to be the girl who is Sasuke's butler's love interest. Idk why she is always designed with the worst outfits when she canonically cared about her looks (afaik).
Having kids just for the clan to live on is not a good idea especially in Sasuke’s case. So I don’t really care if Karin has kids or not but if she choose to have kids, I hope it’s not for the clan to live on and she just wants kids because that’s what she wants and is ready for. And the comment about Sakura should have married Naruto, Lee, or Kakashi… She should definitely NOT end up with Kakashi. He knew her since she was a kid and he was very much a grown man at the time. And he was her teacher. That’s creepy.
i love karin but i dont ship Sasukarin because she deserve better. Yet, i cannot help but feel that SK was supposed to be the end for sasuke. thats what kishimoto was aiming for in my opinion
@istalkghosts497 That’s the same feeling I got when she was introduced! It’s why I hated her character at first! I thought she would just be a singular one and done character but then she kept being around Sasuke and was later given the background of being a confirmed Uzumaki and even given Chakra Chains which only Kushina and past Uzuamki holders were able to do! That’s a big deal! And then have her be there for Sasuke’s Death and Awakening?? It was a lot. If she had no particular significance, why add all that stuff?? Why even keep her around later in Boruto and have her deliver Sarada and be the cause of the baby mama drama?? Why give Sarada the glasses? It’s just a lot of unanswered questions that didn’t need to be there if she hadn’t originally been endgame. At least that’s my belief.
@DayDayDoes when I was listening to your video, you mentioned something about sasuke being more patient than a Saint with Karin which never crossed my mind before. Thank you for bringing that up. This is the beauty of having a discussion video. Also, I have a gut feeling that kishimoto had his own way of rebelling against his editors by making sarada look like karin. I'd to point out 2 more things here 1: Canon Sasuke aka kishimoto's version of sasuke is very selfish and entitled and things the world is his own toy to be simply used. But he asked karin MORE THAN ONCE to be a part of his team. He would've NEVER done such a thing to anyone else. Not even to naruto arguably. 2: The umbilical cord in my humble opinion is the COLOSSAL give away as to who was actually supposed to be satada's mother. Why is Karin treasuring it if she is not sarada's biological mother?
@@DayDayDoes Why give Sarada glasses Because Without glasses in kishimoto’s eyes she looks like her dad a rebel but kishimoto wanted her to look cute. Hope that helps❤
It doesn't help that Sasuke and Sakura ship just plays right into the incel talking point about looks being all that matters and it doesn't matter how toxic you are and having that insecurity being vindicated in media like this. I think thats an underlying reason why talking about this ship frequently brings out toxicity among the fanbase. It truly was a horrible ship.
Ever since the chunin exams when they first met, I have always envisioned the idea of Rock Lee and Sakura becoming a thing. I feel as if everyone has just forgot it or completely disregarded it and it really breaks my heart. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the idea of SasuSaku because they would've totally been a badass, sexy couple. But I would take Lee and her any day over this bullshit.
Wow I finally found a SasuSaku critique video that actually touches on the real things issues with the couple, instead of just hating mindlessly on one character or the other or trying to push some other ship. Basically problems can be summed up as: Its way too one-sided and the ass backwards way of trying to address it have only made it worse.
@@DayDayDoes I ship SasuSaku but theres only so much grace you can give it. As for the studios agenda - I'm not sure they are pushing any pairing so much as they are intent on giving Sakura (and Sarada) the shaft. Thats my reading at least.
In all honesty I was so pissed off when Sasuke got together with Sakura and Naruto with Hinata. Naruto and Sakura’s relationship was set up since like chapter 3 and then it all got retconned. All of a sudden “Oh Naruto only liked Sakura because of his rivalry with Sasuke and he actually liked Hinata all along!” While that sounds like a realistic scenario on its own, it was in NO way set up to be that at all. I would’ve been fine with Part 1 being basically the same, but Part 2 would make it abundantly clear that Naruto and Sakura are not meant for each other.
If Naruto and Sakura got together it would literally be no different from Sasuke and Sakura. Naruto deserves to be with a love interest that actually wants him. I'm so sick of people being talked down to and friend zone and then all of a sudden as soon as other people see you're worthy then they want you. The same thing with Sakura she deserves better than to be with Sasuke. Just like Naruto deserves better than to be with Sakura
I know I'm a year late to the party, but as someone whose older sister wrote a SasuSaku fanfic that went viral, this video is incredibly cathartic to me. Not only does it vindicate my NaruSaku shipping from my teen years, but it also helps me put into words why I could never get on board with SasuSaku. I can also see the ways that my sister was projecting onto Sakura, like you admitted to doing as a teenager, and why she mistook "fixing" a broken man for an actual, loving, healthy dynamic. Also hearing about how badly Sakura is being treated in Boruto when Naruto or Lee would have treated her like a queen, also just feels like a massive "I told you so" moment. 😆
I feel like people don't understand that writing about unhealthy things in fiction doesn't mean you'd endorse it in reality. Are Naruto and Sasuke an example of a healthy friendship? No, yet people like it because it's entertaining.
@@AdamM-s8j Yeah, that's true, but I find that the type of media people gravitate towards, can say a lot about them. Looking back, my sister loved writing stories about broken/evil guys falling in love with a girl who reforms them. Then she dove headfirst into the "I can fix him" with a self-destructive alcoholic, and was surprised when she couldn't reform him.There's nothing wrong with enjoying a good story, but I fear too many people take the fantasy to heart, and end up internalizing the wrong messages.
Honestly, the cute filler interactions between Sakura and Sai had me rooting for the two of them to get together out of team 7. It's crazy that Kishimoto has said that he knew from the beginning that NaruHina and SasuSaku were where he was taking things (in the latter's case, he outright told Sasuke and Sakura's voice actors early on that their characters were going to end up together), but this isn't reflected at all in the actual development behind any of the big 2 canon couples. That, and he's also admitted to deliberately doing things like paralleling Sakura to Naruto's mother in order throw people off on who Naruto would end up with. If even half the effort Kishimoto put into setting up NaruSaku as a red-herring went into NaruHina and SasuSaku, I think far less people would have been upset with those pairings being canon.
Kishi says a lot of bs in his interviews tbh😭 he's said he planned the ships from the start but he's also said he decided on the canon pairings in the middle of the story. I think he just says whatever he thinks will satisfy the interviewer tbh. Also I will never believe this whole "nrsk was a red herring" narrative cuz it doesn't make sense like it isn't a murder mystery, it's a ship😭. Its very obvious that he made the story up as he went along and that combined with the fact that he's a ppl pleasure who bends to the will of his editors, popularity polls and studio pierrot exec's, is the reason for the canon pairings being what they are
You are spot on! Kishimoto IS SO wishy washy in interviews. He said if Naruto had a son he’d name it Shinachiku and instead we got Boruto which is so cringy. He says one thing and turns around contradicts himself so your not wrong at all.
The filler episodes are doing so much work for a few ships. I really love the filler episodes from the original series. I don't know why but they seemed to pair Naruto and Hinata whenever they could and it's really cute but Shippuden ruins it by Naruto straight up saying "me and Hinata never hung out together before now". Screw Kishi I still view those scenes as Canon.
considering how in love kishimoto was in love with sasuke, there was no way any half assed woman written by the man would ever be good enough for his baby boy. but since there was no way he was going leave sasuke unpaired in the end, he might as well pair the poor excuse of a man with the most popular female character in the series. honestly, i wouldnt be suprised if sasuke was revealed to be canonically gay, cause his relationship with sakura feels like the most self destructive case compulsory heterosexuality. hell, most of the canon relationships feel like they dont like each other, let alone love
The only thing I’d disagree with your cmt is that Sasuke is not clearly gay or straight. Because not only he doesn’t show any interest in women sexually but also in men:v Which is also explainable since he is a traumatized 17 years old.
That's what happens when you go for looks and ignore all other traits. Like sakura literally just liked Sasuke because he looks good, just cause he looks cute. Also he might be forced by Kishimoto to marry sakyra lmfao
exactly why she even Had a crush on Sasuke. His Bad Boy cool appearance. Kishi made sakura very superficial and no one rarely mentions it on a rant about sakura
I'd say he's even worse than Ging 😶😶 Ging at least contributed (indirectly) to the development of his child at some point, and he got called out in the series by other characters for being a deadbeat father and emotionless when Gon sees him, so...at least he's not seen as a person we should be looking up to, he's shit and everyone knows it. Sasuke tho??...ew
No idea if you are still reading comments on a video this old, but I wanted to say thank for voicing pretty much every reason SasuSaku is in my opinion one of the worst pairings I ever seen in any work of fiction in my entire life. I think a big part of why it irks me still almost 10 years later is that while I have seen relationships that were as bad if not worse than SasuSaku like the relationship between Light and Misa in Death Note and the relationship between the Joker and Harley Quinn from Batman. But I do not believe I have ever seen a work of fiction with a relationship this bad where the source material itself did not make it clear that the relationship was deeply unhealthy at best and made it clear that there was no excusing the abuser's shitty behavior.
@@missstranger7697 NaruHina is also a bad ship in my opinion but not to the same extent as SasuSaku and for different reasons. Really I think the problems with NaruHina can be summed up with 3 points. 1st, they had almost no interactions in the manga. If you cut out every piece where the two actually interact over the 700 chapter run, I doubt you would have enough to fill a single chapter. 2nd. Hinata's character was almost completely defined by her relationship with Naruto. I remember being absolutely shocked when Hinata was gushing internally about Naruto holding her hand and I was thinking "I get that holding hands is a bigger deal in Japan than in the US but your cousin just died violently in front of you save your life and you are on cloud nine because of a non-romantic hand holding?!" 3rd. The way the Last approached making the ship happen was just insulting. They could have just had a story line showing that after the war, Naruto and Hinata started seeing each other more and the former started developing feelings for the latter which lead to them eventually get married which would have been okay at least. But instead they tried to force idea that Naruto was always loved Hinata, he just did not realize it. It may not be toxic in of itself or abusive like SasuSaku, but NaruHina quite possibly the most forced ship I have ever seen.
Sakura doesn't love sasuke she likes the idea of sasuke she likes that he is cool and handsome but doesn't understand him or know him as person the proof is when she made funny of naruto for being a orphan not understand that sasuke is also an orphan that shows she doesn't understand sasuke feelings and sasuke never showed interest in sakura thier relationship is toxic and unrealistic they were forced together for the sake of the plot at the end so the writers cloud bring sarada in next generation
You know what killed me in the Sasuke retsuden novel? Sakura described Sasuke as a gentle and pure person and I'm like, WHO IS GENTLE?? PURE??? SASUKE??? She ended up describing Itachi, the wrong Uchiha brother. That's how I knew she does NOT know Sasuke and the writers do not know what the fuck their relationship dynamic is like.
@@DayDayDoes kishimoto sends a bad message with their relationship I mean they don't even have a relationship because they never dated or spend time together
@@dytgyfgyffuh243 yeah that’s always what I’ve gotten. Because the canon material doesn’t show much of them, it makes their getting together seem random or show us that Sakura’s love for Sasuke was anything more than a deep seated girlhood crush that became an unhealthy form of delulu
SasuSaku is by far the WORST pairing to ever exist in anime history and this is a hill I am willing to die on. When you have even the writer himself, Misashi Kishimoto, openly admit that Sakura's love for Sasuke is more akin to addiction and any reason would be contrived you have done something VERY wrong. (For the love God, Yes Kishimoto actually said this. Look it up. This was around the NYCC 2015 interviews he said all this.) Not only that, but even Kishimoto's own wife protested to NaruSaku not happening according Kishimoto himself. The only reason SS got canon was I believe to get Sakura AND Sasuke away from Naruto so Hinata can have a chance because we all know that if Naruto truly had a choice, he would pick Sasuke and Sakura any day over Hinata. Combine that with the blatant denials of "Sasuke didn't know he loved Sakura. He loved her since the beginning. They understand each other." Did you all really read the same manga? Chapter 693 Sasuke says and I quote: "Did she have fun living in her fantasy world? I see no reason why she should love me and I have NO REASON why I should love her." How much clearer can you get? The man cannot say no loud and they still act like he was indecisive. Like he didn't know. Oh and all of this even after Naruto openly admitted and telling Sai that he loved Sakura. Sai: "Even I can tell that Naruto is in love with you." It got so bad that in the Naruto the Last movie that had to make Naruto believe he didn't know what love was and he only loved people due to his rivalry with Sasuke which makes him an even bigger scumbag than any other character in the series. Like, what was the point of all this drama if it meant NOTHING? I can go on and on, but people love being in denial and I am sick of Naruto anyway. This was just the cherry on the top of this horrible sundae that is the Naruto story.
I loathe SakuSasu, I wish Kishi would had the good sense of having Sakura move on and find her own happiness either by herself or with someone else. This is such a bad decision no matter what angle you try to look at it, this pairing should not have happened.
And even that was a colosal failure because you can’t rebuild a clan with one daughter and almost kill her when you don’t recognize her after seeing for the first time in 13 years 😭
@@DayDayDoes are you saying lied to me kishimoto fav character is hinata he adore and he say i want that hinata make scarf to nartuo as my wife make and why he say sakura he hate sakura he gave all good featurrs to hinata he even give hinata strongest kunoichi and otsusuki and sakura he hate her the who hate sakura how can he say sakura based on his wife
Yes Sakura acted stupid. I found her insufferable, especially with her daughter Sarada. She did anything, but tell her the truth about her father. Even Naruto had realised, that Sasuke was to be avoided and tried to warn Sakura about it.
Her personality SO DIFFERENT in front of Sasuke compared to anyone else! She’s always so jokey and more open when she isn’t with Sasuke. It’s like she’s trying to out mature him and show him she’s different. My heart 😭
@@DayDayDoes Yes, it's true ! if only she had given up her obsession with Sasuke, I'm sure she would have been a fulfilled and happy woman with Naruto or even Lee! she would be herself! bright happy and just tsundere what 😔
@@lu7quinze15 "all sasusaku moments are non-canon fillers" that's a nice argument senator. for some reason I remember the forest of death, zaku, hospital, sasuke's departure in part 1 and much more. I only read the manga but maybe i've bought wrong version. I guess in the real and canon version these moments do not exist. so why don't you back it up with a source?
@@virgil9784 I'm talking about boruto! bro! SS moments are just fan service! and it's not just those SS moments in Naruto Shippuden and Naruto huh? stop clinging to those moments and live in the present
@@lu7quinze15 stop clinging to those moments and live in the present? you just said "all ss moments are fillers" and they're not. not in part 1, not in shippuden, not in naruto gaiden(worst anime adaptation btw). and not in retsuden. also fanservice doesn't mean filler. and man, no offense, i might be wrong, but judging by your comments and logic("retsuden does not respect any more chronology"), you are very young. and here i am arguing with a kid. so don't mind me and think whatever you like
the only thing is that sasuke saw how useful karin's ability so he pulled up all his act to smitten her and she is willing to give in . i mean this just my thoughts
@@user-ss8ge4jt4j yeah something like that would happen oh ! as much i want to do that i had no experience and i am not a fan of spreading miss analysing .
Plus Surkra was in love with a Sasuke that never existed. Remember how happy she was when he said he wanted to kiss her forehead. Turns out that wasn't Sasuke at all, but Naruto in disguise. To me that was the Sasuke she was chasing, the one that loved her forehead. Too bad she never found out the truth.
I watched this to the very end. And girl, you are very right. You made every point. As much as I am not a Sakura fan, thanks to your video, I was able to be more sympathetic with her despite everything being her choice. It is sad that actually she wins nothing out of everything in total. It also opened my eyes to how toxic Sasuke is as a man in a relationship, despite the fact I am actually not ever a shipper of those two, I can only see people ship them because of how they visually compliment each other in terms of character design and colors. To be fair, I don't pay much attention to Sakura in the show, and when I do, she acts like a hopeless romantic and does incredibly self damaging decisions I can't get behind. Nonetheless, I do see that Sasuke is a serious part of the problem. My full conclusion, in short, is that Sakura and Sasuke are not ever going to be healthy or a good couple. There is no amount of redeeming that can ever occur that would make these two together, ever be good for each other. Especially when love is built with reciprocated feelings not by one sided ones. They are the worst example of how a relationship should be. It is just very sad.
Honestly this is so well put, even looking at this from an outside perspective, the two as a romantic couple just do not work and neither character benefits or is happy about it. It’s truly sad and even though they’re just fictional characters, still can’t help feeling for both of them. I appreciate your comment!
Well it is not that kishimoto doesnt know how to make relationship. It is because sasuke is kishimoto favourite character. Did you know that sakura is kishimoto wife name??. He paired his favourite with character.
I discovered Naruto back in 2006 when I was a wee 12 year old lol. My cousin had been in the middle of watching it, so the very first scene I ever saw was Sakura’s inner monologue about raising her hand for Naruto during the chunin exams. I remember asking my cousin “does she like him?” I’m almost 30 now and have been pretty much obsessed with Sakura and Narusaku ever since (even tho the ending made me so angry I took a 9 year break 💀) so needless to say this video had me giggling and kicking my feet on this fine Sunday afternoon. Excellent points all around.
It's soo true i don't get it why kishimoto decided to make sakura have like those eye wrinkles, it makes her look so tired and sad, she looks older than tsunade and mei even though shes younger. I mean why did they have to do my girl like that, it's a blasphemy at this point 😭😭😭😭😭
Saying this before watching the video: Looking back on it, NaruSaku does seem much more canonically proven through actions than SasuSaku. Even then though, I never really picked up on it and just thought that they were being best friends. Honestly, as much as I enjoy Naruto and Sakura's relationship (minus when they randomly make Sakura do controversial things towards him like that insane fake confession), I much prefer them as a platonic duo. Apart from Jiraiya and Naruto, Sakura and Naruto have always struck me as more of best friends or family than any other two characters. In my opinion, a large part of their relationship's beauty is how Sakura never drastically changed her mind regarding how romantically attracted to Naruto she was, regardless of whether he was an overdramatic child, or dependable leader. They give familial vibes, which I love. Regardless of how prevalent NaruSaku is, I think we can all agree that both Sasusaku and NaruSasu (SasuNaru?) are incredibly, painfully toxic and unhealthy.
NaruSaku works whether you want a platonic vibe or a romantic vibe. I appreciate that their character chemistry is one that cares about the other and sees the other for who they are and has withstood the test of time. I vibe with the romantic side because it would have completed their arcs better, but that's just me. And any relationship with Sasuke is going to need major work. Sasuke has to prove with his actions his atonement and love for his friends, family, etc because of how badly he has hurt them in the past with his actions, esp. to those who didn't deserve it. It's just a journey really.
Whoa whoa there buddy don’t go saying that SasuNaru is toxic and is unhealthy and then say narusaku is a way better candidate than SasuNaru which may I point out is definitely not . Sure I get where the ship Narusaku comes from . It’s based off there building relationship throughout shippuden . But then again look at it again , you can’t tell me that narusaku is not as toxic , mainly on sakura’s part. In part one of Naruto she literally belittles him for being an orphan and calls him annoying straight to his face and then later on never apologizes for it , and despite her efforts trying to be nicer towards Naruto and be patient with him , she fails miserably as she always ends up hitting him , calling him names , and always takes Sasuke’s side . And whenever she is saved my Naruto or both Naruto and Sasuke she mainly think it’s mostly Sasuke’s effort instead of Naruto’s showing her complete lack of faith in Naruto as a teammate and friend and never really formally thanks him or show her gratitude towards him for saving her life multiple times at the cost of his own . And in part two of Naruto , sakura’s relationship with Naruto does get better and progresses more and does stand up for him and believes in him more than she did before , but that doesn’t completely sub side the fact that she tried to kill Sasuke for the sake of her not feeling the burden of Naruto getting further more hurt because of the selfish promise Naruto made for her, completely regarding Naruto’s thoughts and future feelings towards this idea , and on top of that lied to him about her reciprocating the romantic feelings Naruto had for her , also still regarding HIS feelings towards this situation . What type of friend does that , let alone a potential partner . Second off you can’t completely go off saying that SasuNaru is toxic because technically Sasuke genuinely makes up for most of the terrible situations he’s done to Naruto in shippuden during their talks in Boruto , and their talk after their final battle where he literally expressed how he truly felt about Naruto and how he feels towards him and Naruto literally said that he couldn’t live without Sasuke , and Sasuke couldn’t live without him , because Sasuke is Naruto’s other half , platonic or not . That literally explains that even if Sakura did end up with Naruto she still wouldn’t be able to fill that other half Naruto has and wouldn’t be able to understand him at all and even if she did the emotional barrier between them still wouldn’t disappear. Naruto and Sakura have a sibling like bond relationship considering sakura’s constant behavior towards him . Plus Naruto and Sasuke’s bond was interpreted wayyy too deeply to only be seen as just as friends or brothers . Naruto and sasuke have way more chemistry with each other than they do with their own wives . Sure Naruto and Sasuke might need a little more development and dedication towards their healing relationship in the end of shippuden , mainly on Sasuke’s part , but then again it still makes way more sense than any other ship in Naruto and had way more potential . So don’t go around hating on SasuNaru , saying that it’s unhealthy and toxicated , because after al, that I have explained , don’t act like Narusaku is any better
sasuke had more chemistry with naruto than with sakura. sure they were rivals, but there were a lot of feelings between them (let it be anger, jealousy or annoyance. But they also cared for each other and called the other one their best friend. plus we even got a kiss from them lol) The friendship/relationship between him sakura is just blank.
Honestly, I'm right there with you on having been an early fan of Sakura. I was...13? 14?...when the anime was localized for the States and besides Naruto, latched onto Sakura. Even then I recognized that Sasuke did NOT reciprocate Sakura's feelings toward him, and hoped her arc would involve maturing and growing to love Naruto. And I felt the Chunin Exams were going to the start of that journey; and I was _half_ right, before I ultimately became sadly mistaken. To me, the real problem(s) with Sakura's character, the ones that get the fandom to meme Sakura into oblivion, is that 1) Her name isn't Naruto or Sasuke therefore she isn't allowed to outshine them in any respect, and if anything has to be reduced to a tool to highlight (mainly) Naruto's development, and 2) Actual *years* of character development were thrown out the window in having her get with Sasuke. The only reason I can think Kishi made SasuSaku canon would be because he decided to make NaruHina endgame, and decided to throw Sakura a romantic bone (pun somewhat intended) by having her get her misguided girlhood dream - Sasuke. I don't even think there needed to be big tweaks to the canon story and presentation thereof to deliver a NaruSaku endgame that would have been emotionally fulfilling and healthy. Have Sakura be the one to free Naruto during his battle with Pain and then get impaled, because that makes so much more sense storywise, with their relationship having so much more development, that the emotional impact of Sakura sacrificing herself for Naruto in that moment is there for both us the readers and Naruto, to justify his rampage; as the scene exists in canon, it only works for the Hinata stans. When Sakura makes her "fakefession" to Naruto, have a panel where Naruto's lip is quivering and he's tensing his fist, because the girl he's in love with just bold-faced lied to his face about liking him, which in his mind means she really doesn't love him back. When Naruto swoops in to save Sakura from Sasuke, give a quick panel of her looking up at him blushing and a look that can be interpreted as "Oh my..." When Sakura rejects the love letter from that Iwa ninja, don't linger on her and show us what she's thinking; keep it a mystery. The biggest thing I think would need to be changed is fleshing out the moment during the war when she's manually pumping Naruto's heart. When she's afraid he's going to die, I'd invoke that Trinity-Neo scene from the first Matrix movie. But instead of an outright love connection, she tells Naruto all the things about him she thinks are wonderful: his determination, his kindness, how he never gave into darkness despite how much he had been mistreated all his life. As the climax of that moment, she tells him she won't allow him to die, not before she's had the chance to apologize and make up for what she did in the Land of Iron, and she's fine if he hates her afterward, as long as it means he's alive. From there, Sakura doesn't do any confessing to Sasuke during the final showdown with Kaguya, or offer to join him on his journey of atonement. The biggest change would be The Last movie, with the whilole structure needing a ground-up reworking. Here, it would be about how Naruto and Sakura's relationship officially blossoms into romance, as well as Hinata's reaction to it and her emotional arc to move on, and tie up loose ends on the Team 7 triangle. They can also expand Sasuke's role - after he's found a collapsed Hiashi, have him offer to join the mission; this could make things awkward between him, Naruto and Sakura, mainly on the latter two's end, but it can also serve as an opportunity to highlight their growth and maturity that they're able to work through it and resolve the issues, rather than leave them simmering beneath the surface like they did as kids. And since Sakura is taking the place of Hinata as Naruto's love interest in this movie, Sasuke can take Sakura's canon role as the one who encourages the romantic development. For the climax of the fight with Toneri, when he's drained Naruto's chakra, have Sakura use Yin Seal: Release, and transfer her chakra into Naruto, who uses it to form a giant pink Rasengan that resembles a flurry of cherry blossom petals blowing in the wind, before Sakura uses the last of her strength to fling Naruto at Toneri to land the finishing blow. Also, take out the red scarf subplot because that was *not* a good look for Hinata; Kushina scarf supremacy. For the ultimate ending (the New Era), Naruto and Sakura have their two children. Not much really needs to change with Boruto beyond the shape of his face and eyes, I guess. The biggest difference would be their daughter, who I would make look like a pink-haired Kushina, or a redheaded Sakura (where the Uzumaki red hair gene works like IRL red hair which can skip a generation). I imagine her name being Konohana, combining the mythological theme of Kushina with the cherry blossom theme of Sakura, while also mirroring the Third Hokage and Konohamaru where a child is given a name with "Konoha", after the village. And just imagine it - ninja who could move around the battlefield with Flying Thunder God Technique, while throwing punches able to shatter boulders.
You aren't a Sakura fan. You are a NaruSaku who only likes Sakura together with Naruto as a prize. NaruSaku objectifies Sakura. She is just a prize for Naruto. The ship requires all of Sakura's thoughts & feelings to be erased, ignored, or changed. It's 100% giving Naruto what HE wanted & just sticking Sakura with the guy she never liked.. NaruSaku and self inserts were the white knight, "nice guy", "Cyrano's", while Sakura to to them represented the popular girl they could never get despite showering her with all sorts of affection and nice gestures. Sasuke represented the rival guy. You all believe Naruto's feelings for Sakura represented some kind of tragic love story where he gave up on his non-existent promise to win her heart, and that he went back on his word. They expected Naruto to get the girl and humiliate Sasuke. That's why you're are still so bitter, you didn't get the full progression you wanted. You all were all trying to live vicariously through Naruto. The NaruSaku narrative was all about a guy insistently pursuing a pretty, girl that wouldn't give him the time of day. It was all about how he, the "nice guy" would win her heart at the end, and that he could get her to see that the evil popular guy was trash, while he the nice guy by being by her side at all times was truly deserving of her affection.
What gets me is that there were opportunities to build their dynamic. It would be interesting is Sakura got over Sasuke and only then he realizes what a badass she is. They both mature, figure out what they want, and only then get together. And let Sakura call him out on his shit, not be infatuated with him like a schoolgirl. As it stands, I like the fanfic, but keep the canon away!
YES exactly that! I want Sasuke to come to HER and show through his actions his sincerity! Her chasing is giving too much pick me with no reciprocation and it’s sad. Would have LOVED to see her grow into her own. 😔
It was shown that the fangirl-ism brings out the worst in her I always assumed that this was part of her character arc to grow as a person. She would be better off with someone she could be herself and not the fangirling, crush-pleasing doormatt. The text in Naruto Gaiden basically screams at you begs you to believe that Sarada is sakuras biological daughter. At the same time the evidence (Karin has the umbil-cord, Sarada beeing born outside of Konoha, Highly pregnant Sakura chasing after her guy instead off staying save for the baby) make it more believable that Sakura was the wetnurse for Sarada and than adopted and raised her as a single mother to give her a better life than Karin could give her.
To be fair about the only 1 uchiha thing sasuke in the war arc and after that is a totally different person then when he was as a 13 year old. For example he’s willing to off himself at the final valley with Naruto if that means that their would be peace in the world.
I do like Adult Sasuke’s attitude because he’s a lot more emotionally stable and mature, but even so he still makes TERRIBLE decisions, like making Sakura a single mother all throughout Sarada’s life span. I could forgive everything else but that crossed a line with me, especially because there was no real need
I remember a male family member said that if a man loved a women he loves her children ...putting my shock over discovering that fatherly love is not by instinct ( like a mother's) aside... this shit is so accurate in real life because if the man doesn't truly love a woman he never sticks around raising their children ...even if he is physically stuck with his family ....and that also applies here ...if sasuke had mutual feelings of love and romance for sakura ...he would have stuck around to see sarada grow up and returned to the village at the slightest given chance instead of running away for 12 or 13 years
he didn't smirked. Ss stans changed the panel and edited it. He's looking like always giving zero shit. Its just a line He never wanted to rebuild the clan. He wanted to rebuild the dignity of his clan. Hes not even wearing his clan symbol anymore
Me personally I don’t mind the ship, I just think a lot more really could have been explored with it. And that’s where I see Kishimoto’s problem with creating ships and writing female characters. If anything it just pains me to see Sakura having to raise Sarada all by herself 90% of the time.
Amazing video! Finally someone who really loves Sakura like me and and that acknowledges that both canon pairings are forced and meaningless. Like you, I love the character of Sakura, from the first moment I saw the anime I literally reflected in her and being her fan I always hoped the best for her and her character. Sasuke does not fulfill this role, on the contrary, it represents the obstacle to his maturation as a character; in fact, every time his character is placed next to him, his development regresses and it is a fact. Many Sakura fans say that if you don't appreciate or accept Sakura's love for Sasuke then you are not a fan. Well, I always say that Sakura's character is not based only on appearances but you have to see the substance of the facts. A thousand times it is said that she loves Sasuke ok but a thousand more it is confirmed that she continues to love him for no reason, that her love for him stems mainly from a rivalry with her best friend, that her love is portrayed as selfish and superficial (written by Kishimoto himself in his sketches and reiterated in an interview after the last that Sakura is emotionally obsessed with him not in love). Furthermore Sakura, through a growth path, recognizes that Sasuke does not consider her that way yet she continues to humiliate and bow down to a man who has never given her attention and chapter 693 was the culmination of her disaster as a character. Speaking of SR is a simple fic written by a SS fan and its anime adaptation was done solely for the purpose of earning more profit due to the huge fan base of this couple, it cannot be taken as part of the story as it literally contradicts the canon, is not written by Kishimoto and literally tends to destroy the character of Sasuke and Sakura. I loved your analysis, good, now I have a look at the video on NH too. This video would deserve more view
Omg thank you for your comment 😭💕and I Couldn’t agree more. I’m a proud Sakura fan but my love for her does not blind me to the fact that she deserves better and is just not compatible with Sasuke in canon at all. Most “evidence” you really gotta grab a magnifying glass and speculate which is what character chemistry isn’t supposed to be.
@@DayDayDoes exactly, that's why Kishimoto pulls her between the two protagonists in a different way; to show how his character as well as his development changes depending on the circumstances. Kishi's intention was to portray a realistic and human girl, able to make mistakes and remedy them through experience. The exact same thing also occurs in the case of feelings: she assumes that she loves Sasuke without really knowing him (the few times they interacted it was only because they were both on the same team, you can't claim to really love a person if you don't ever had the opportunity to spend time with her and really get to know her) but at the same time she has new feelings for Naruto who instead finds it hard to understand since she doesn't know what it means to really love someone, feelings that among other things, gradually as the story goes on, they become more and more profound and realistic and in fact the ultimate goal was to make her understand that her true love is Naruto not Sasuke, the boy she thought she loved. We have all happened to fall in love / crush on the wrong man but through a growth path you understand your mistakes and move forward until you really find the guy who makes your heart beat and truly deserves your love. The journey would have ended when Sakura would have discovered that Naruto was the boy who complimented his forehead, not Sasuke (scene already present in chap 3 and also taken up through the Minakushi parallelism). Also take into account the various parallels and symbolisms in favor of the couple (the cherry blossom which blossoms in the presence of the sun and withers in the dark, the sky representing the intellect and the earth associated with physical strength and determination), Sakura is always herself with Naruto and him with her, the time spent together has allowed both of them to grow and get to know each other better, unlike Sasuke Naruto makes Sakura really happy and gives her the attention and love she needs so that can feel good about herself (referring to her large and spacious forehead, always her greatest insecurity) also counts the fact that Kishimoto himself said that Naruto is a reflection of himself while Sakura is based on a model of his wife . I get annoyed by people who say Sakura doesn't love Naruto but only Sasuke because that's what they say. In words we are all good but it is with the facts that we see the substantial difference in the two reports eg. in the chunin exam Sakura was ready to give up the exam just to not see Naruto's dream destroyed (she didn't even think about Sasuke), that in Boruto you still see Sakura as a girl with her first teenage crushes, she knows nothing about her alleged husband and is always compliant with everything her husband does while Sasuke comes and goes when he pleases and prefers to spend more time with his son of his best friend than with his own family. realistically, a relationship like the SS can never be taken to be wholesome and true and it is a fact; however, considering that we are in an idealized world where the only thing that matters are the feelings of the girls and the goal is the gain, no one cares anymore about the dynamics of the couple and prefers to live in fantasies, in which the bad boy falls in love with the girl always devoted to him
@Nukara Rikova First: I would love to know why you NH or SS fans come to the anti couple videos and criticize anyone who thinks differently. If you like NH ok, that's your taste but respect the fact that not all of us agree with you and I'll explain the various reasons why this couple doesn't work. It's not about being a NS fan or a non-shipper, it's about writing with facts. The NH is a couple that is mainly based on Hinata's feelings and how at the end of the story Naruto has to reciprocate because he can't get the girl he wants. Naruto never loved Hinata, he always saw her as a friend and nothing more (he interacted with her 3 times yes and no in the whole story and during the Pain arc Naruto transforms because he couldn't stand the fact that his friend was killed defending him, not because he had feelings for her. This is further accentuated by the fact that in later chapters he again reminds Sai of his love for Sakura.) The whole series and the fact that out of nowhere they have having to produce a film solely focused on the couple explains even more the lack of real development between the two. It's sad to say but in the end Naruto went with Hinata out of guilt and gratitude and that's a fact. Also add the total lack of chemistry between the two, neither of them knows the other well (Hinata loves an ideal of Naruto not the real him; they have never spent time together... how can you say you love a person in any sense? tight if you can't even spend time with her and get to know her well? that's just idealization. The best thing for Hinata's character would have been to let go of her unrequited crush on Naruto, mature as a character by taking Naruto as a point of reference and carry on proving to her father that she is a worthy heiress of her clan). The NH destroys both characters and neither of them is happy: Naruto always takes refuge in work and prefers to sleep in the office or on the sofa rather than being with his family, he sends the clones home (how? Naruto who has always wanted a family ? this is totally OOC) while Hinata is reduced to being a maid, she is no longer a ninja, she has no backbone to educate her children and is totally passive temperamentally speaking. Second, the main problem with NH is that you just rely on the feelings of a secondary character and never think about what the protagonist really wants and that's totally wrong. Does Hinata deserve Naruto because she always loved him? oh well naruto always loved sakura and if we are to play this silly game (love is not a prize and naruto is not a trophy) he is that he is the one who deserves it most of all. A couple, to be defined as such, needs development and feelings on both sides and unfortunately NH and SS do not have these requirements and it is a fact ... unlike the NS which instead had all the potential to become canon but unfortunately the money and the fanservice got the better of it. Also, the fact that even today there are people who come to complain about those who go against their ships despite Naruto being over for years is really funny... it just shows how insecure you too are about their development as a couple but you don't accept it. By
@Nukara Rikova no matter what or who the author had planned (although considering that Sakura is based on his wife's model and Naruto is a reflection of himself I'd say it's more than obvious what his real intentions were but btw) because the facts prove the opposite and speak for themselves. The problem is not who the current couples have become but how they became, it's different
Same! My love for Sakura is never ending 🥰 but even so, I’m not blinded to her faults. No one is perfect and neither is my girl Sakura, especially when Kishimoto and editors ignore her potential and write her terribly.
Sasuke loves no one more than he loves Naruto tbh, and I’m not even being funny. Naruto loves Hinata, was still a weird pairing just how everything played out but. It at least makes a little more sense. Sasuke does not give a fuck about that village outside of Naruto. He would not even be there without Naruto. For the longest time my mans would come to the village to only see Naruto and then fucking leave. What.
they don't have any chemistry people just think they do because both are attractive and their color palettes look pretty good together.They feel and fall completely flat
"Why can Hinata and Sakura get over their crushes?" because the real answer is that all of us saw the writing on the wall that the only person Sasuke even kind of cared about at the end there was Naruto, and they couldn't make THAT happen in a shounen manga
I like saskue alone and Sakura alone, together they make the most toxic relationship, it's the same old I can fix him attitude single mother and a distance relationship all in one like how could people still support that! People who support it are probably those crying from toxic relationships in real life
Love this video! Always hated this toxic couple. Sakura shoukd have ended up with Rock Lee, they would have been an amazing power couple. Sasuke should have ened up with Karin so Sarada can be powerful AF, Uchiha and Uzumaki can finally be together
I agree! It’s not a bad premise and their genin days had potential, but Kishimoto did everything and anything to make it look SO BAD in Shippuden and SP made it look worse in Boruto! Marriage isn’t going to fix a one-sided relationship 😭
Sasuke is an abused child with trauma, it took him a long time to learn to love and accomodate with other people with compassion. Sakura, if she was a real person, would not end up with Sasuke. She, instead is a female companion in a manga, she is reduced to pining after Sasuke. She has 2 personalities: strong, energetic and a weak-minded lover girl. She is written like a paper doll who can swing both ways according to the author's intention. Like, Sakura is like a prize to Sasuke. It's like one of those old time where people are pressured to marry and so they forced 2 incompatible people together and hope they will "work it out"
Same 😭 They seemed cute on the surface when they're young. In shippuden is when you start seeing the cracks and that's when I realized I didn't care about Sasuke at all. Sakura was everything and deserved better. Once the rose colored glasses fell, I started analyzing everything left and right.
Same. Visually, they do look good together so my 11 yr old self would be shipping then and reading fanfics on them. However now I know that Sakura deserves so much better.
Congrats to be honest... you don't care about, for you all that matters is Sakura and Sasuke is just a prize for her conquer. That's why I said that Sasuke was right to do what he did against Sakura.
though lee's confessions were played out for jokes , thinking back, i think it held some weight. despite coming from an average family both lee and sakura trained hard to be on the same level as the talented ones in their respective squard.
I love Sakura as a character but God damn I hate her stupidity so much. PLEASE GET OVER SASUKE. She's clearly getting treated like sh*t and she's eating it up. WHYYYY DID THEY HAVE TO DO THIS ON MY FAVORITE CHARACTER
Never really connected with Sakura's character and I hated the way she was senselessly cruel to certain characters at times because she was from a very privileged place (the orphan comments still bothered me to this day), but christ, she deserves better. Sasuke's attitudes at least made sense considering how traumatized he was and never got a proper therapy session to this day. Yet he still deserves better. Both Sasuke and she deserves more than what they got, just not each other.
They should've just let Sasuke stay single and have it as part of his super secret mission that he "sowing his oats" and then training those kids to be secret group to look at the leaf village from the shadows like him
Even when Shippuden ended as a kid I I still claimed and debated that Naruto and Sakura was were meant to be together in the end and not with got. NaruSaku forever‼
Kishi did her really dirty huh?! the WORST imo.. honestly I feel that Sakura should have gotten over her idiotic feelings for Sasuke when he tried to kill her multiple times (and also disrespect her throughout), especially before fighting Naruto after the war. She should have ended up with Naruto and Hinata with Neji, (kishi killed Neji like it was nothing, the arrow that hit Neji could have been deflected by a Gentle Fist Air Palm). That was the real dipping point for Sakura imo. It's really sad. She's the worst written character in all shonen n entertainment imo. P.S. - I really love Sakura, her design n her character. 😢
Sasuke's relationship with her feels like an obligation than actual love. Like him giving her a ring is more of "oh i'm suppose to give her jewerly".
THIS. And I'm pretty damn sure its the only jewelry or gift he's given her to date 😭
I prefer his road to ninja counterpart.
@@DayDayDoes Late Wedding Ring
Sasuke is better of single. But
Sakura could be an endgame with Naruto in my opinion.
@@missstranger7697 I mean ngl he deserved love. It's just people needed to understand the immense value of his literal role.
Kishi also sucks at romance
Also yes in term buildup NaruSaku makes so much more sense then NaruHina even though NaruHina is cuter.
NaruSaku narratively makes MORE SENSE. At least before you bring crap like The Last in here.
Do not forget that in Boruto episode when Sakura was talking with Ino, she says to her that their date lasted ONLY one minute!!! I was mindblown when I watched it🤯
it's also implied sasuke and sakura never kissed yet when sarada asked her about it when sarada was around 6-10 years old.
@@aaehgufsasuke went straight for cheeks
that was so sad I hate how she’s always a punching bag like wtf? why did Kishimoto make them canon if their relationship is a joke? idk but SasuSaku and NaruHina always felt like some sort of compensation for the awful writing and treatment the girls received so at least they got who they wanted. And that’s good. I suppose.
@@ZayTh3Godwho cheeks? That's Karin's kid 😂
@@aaehguf bruh its actually crazy that you ppl believe this shit. sakura said there was something BETTER than a kiss to her DAUGHTER how does that imply they didn't kiss? mind you, there is a canon scene where sarada teases her dad about having lipstick on his lips and he actually rubs it away.. WHY would he do that if they don't kiss often??? they also traveled the world together and had sarada and YES sasuke stayed with them when she was a baby until she was 3. he left bc there were kaguya remains discovered. in the manga, a pregnant sakura was in the meetings with naurto sasuke and the 5 kage discussing sasuke needing to make his mission super PRIVATE. this man has always shown he has cared for her but ofc the anime leaves all that out bc they are SAKURA HATERS. why does he get so much hate for trying to kill her when SHE tried to kill him those TWO times. he respects her so much as a doctor, saying her healing hands are his pride and joy. "He knows karin more" WHAT IS THIS GIRL SAYING??? PLEASE tell me what tf he knows about Karen besides she gets off when ppl bite her?????? he brutally killed her. genin sasuke praised her, noticed when she was depressed and stressed with the chunin exams so he PRAISED her in front of everyone and boosted her self esteem. he knows shes a medical ninja when she comes to kill him. how the hell would he know that when he hasn't seen her after 3 years?? no soft touches or smiles? STFU abt SS if u don't know them. he softly touched her hair when he set her down, asked the dog to protect her, carried her onto a bench when he left AND moved the garbage can away from her, its sasuke we are talking about - he is an introvert and SO shy but he is possessive. the amount of times he gets jealous. he told his daughter he . he put her in the genjutsu at the end TO KEEP HER SAFE. he literally says that - she would probably get in the way. BITCH - "he never once impressed by her strength" he straight up says "my wife is not weak", smirks when she punched a GIANT CRATER in the ground, said "naruto, you better not DRAG us down", smirked when she joined them when they reuinted in the war, "I know your strength, but its dangerous." Kakashi tried to explain she just wants to save her and this man said "are you suggesting I enjoy a romance" like dude who mentioned anything about love?? you act like he constantly belittled her when he called her annoying the second time as a way to show he does in fact remember that day he got so mad at her near the bench. but saying he cared about karin more?? he ignored her and told her to get back when she tried to seduce him at first, the reason why he isn't that rude is cus he needed her powers, he cared more abt jugo than her. what do u want her to call her a bitch? he literally went soft around sakura everytime she hugged him, was gentle with her, canonally got jealous when sakura smiled at the thought of naruto being the one to save her from gaara, he kept remembering her smile for naruto in the manga, kishi SAID he loved her since the beginning but was blinded by hatred, she was the only one he opened up to in the THIRD ep, and in one of the manga covers (ch 363) it says "he threw away LOVE, friends, and his village. whats left is only his name and his motivation" wow its almost liked traumatized and horribly broken ssasuke couldn't be happy and purse love or any relationship bc he was blinded by hatred and revenge but later when he learned the truth and atoned for his sins he was able to let himself love and love he did. he respects sakura, praising her, is proud of his amazing strong wife, would love her wrinkles (as he softly touches her eyes), would go crazy if she dies (demonstrated in boruto when he cant find her), get frustrated when sakura changed her hair style and sarada gets older and he cant be there to see it, apologizes for the troubles he's put her through and she waves him off why? bc she knows HE IS THE ONLY ONE who can use rinnegan to look for kaguya remains to keep them SAFE.
The fact that they don't even have a wedding pic and sasuke didn't even know how couples work..is the biggest proof they're not married, they just live in the same house which is maintained by Sakura. And yet people think they're ‘perfect’, which is beyond my understanding. 😂
"Live in the same house" is a huge exaggeration since the man is only there a fifth of the time 😭😭
They have a wedding pic, i guess. I swear i saw it in one of the episodes, but i might be wrong.
You can not understand but still be in a marriage (and I don't mean arranged)
@@MiaPaboplanesSantos you know forced marriage exists,right?
@@shicyn ofc no one besides people like toxic relationship or have Stockholm syndrome will understand this,you are not wrong
Sasuke cared about Sakura, but I never see it as a Romantic way, it's so forced
Even then he only gave her courtesy comradeship as part of their Shinobi profession but that instantly vanished the moment he went rogue. Take note of how importantly emotional it was for Sakura declaring her 'love' for him while he simply brushed it off with a simple thank you before KOing her and vanishing. His own goals always took precedant over her infatuation.
If he cared about her than why try to take her life.
@@YukiPyro Totally plus he tried to take her life multiple times like 3 times if I don’t forget🤔🤦♂️
YESSSS SAY IT LOUDER
@ManelOum-u8y fr, ik ppl say “oh he also tried to take Naruto’s life too” yea that was bc he was (trying, he couldn’t at the end break his bond with Naruto bc he is the closest and most important person to him, he was tryna do what Itachi did. He clearly said he was tryna kill Sakura bc she was in the way
I personally think Sasuke should have stayed single, he would just have made any relationship he was in toxic.
That works too honestly 😂
Sasuke is a toxic person from the moment he existed
@@dattebayo-23453 when his family stopped existing
@@dattebayo-23453yeah being developmentally stunted does that sometimes unfortunately
Yeah but he’s the last Uchiha. If he doesn’t have kids his clan basically becomes extinct.
Honestly, the major issue I had with this couple isn't the couple itself, it's the fact that the story made it seem like Sakura was destined to get over Sasuke at some point and notice Naruto.
Like I get the idea of it but just like NaruHina, Kishi prioritised trolling over actual quality writing again with this one.
Because at one point, Sakura tried punching Sasuke when they first reunited to protect Naruto from him and tried to kill him herself for his sake.
Hell, he even had Sakura willingly try to feed Naruto in Shippuden after he injured himself, she never did that with Sasuke ever. It was such a huge contrast from when she was hesitant to feed Naruto back when Kakashi was first training them too.
She even threatened Sai after he noticed how worried she was about Naruto. He intentionally insulted him in front of her because he knew she was ready to defend his honor.
Hell, Naruto is the reason why she even decided to become a damn medical ninja. She couldn't stand seeing her friend get hurt over and over for her sake so she wanted to stand by him and help him in return.
Also what the hell was that talk about feelings with Yamato when Sakura was crying about not being able to properly help Naruto again after turning four tails?
And while on that subject, the hug, why was she the one that got to hug him after he defeated Nagato and not Hinata? I thought that was supposed to be Hinata's moment? Wasn't the plan this whole time to be NaruHina/SasuSaku, what the heck was that?
Everything she did was for Naruto, never Sasuke yet her feelings said otherwise? That's what frustrates me because Kishi is having her say one thing but has her do something completely contradictory.
Like if she's supposed to be in love with Sasuke, why are the most selfless and romantic looking things she's done throughout the series was for Naruto and not Sasuke?
Like yeah the fake confession thing was bad but that doesn't really remove all of the things she has done for Naruto throughout the series. She went from seeing him as a major nuisance to actually wanting to see him achieve his goals and be happy to the point where whenever somebody questions Naruto as a person, she's ready to defend how great of a person he actually is.
She has never done that with Sasuke, heck, I'm pretty sure she doesn't even approve of his "goals" and has never shown to give him support out of selfless reasons. She only wanted to "support" him because she apparently "loves" him, that's it.
Meanwhile, she supports Naruto 24/7 without any reason other than she just wants to see her friend succeed in life. And it's not like that's just limited to Sakura either. We've seen time and time again how much Naruto was willing to set aside his own feelings if it meant making Sakura happy.
Their supportiveness of one another is mutual, unlike SasuSaku which had nothing until Boruto tried to do damage control.
And people wonder why some people like NaruSaku over SasuSaku?
It also doesn't help that Sasuke has treated her like complete crap throughout the entire series.
Like Naruto at least was indifferent towards Hinata for the most part, Sasuke straight up tried to kill Sakura on multiple occasions.
It feels like Kishi wanted to do the Vegeta/Bulma thing with this couple but he failed to realise that Vegeta has never treated Bulma poorly.
For one, he never attempted to murder her once. Sure he insulted her when they first met, but he was quick to bend to her will after she showed no signs of backing down.
Not to mention Vegeta as time passed actually grew to love his family and acknowledged how much he's been lacking as a husband and a father and tries to make up for it.
Never seen Sasuke do that because just like the excuse with Naruto in Boruto, he's always "busy"..... sigh...
Like yeah, he clearly loves his family now but they never show it. Kishi really has a huge exposition problem with this kind of stuff.
Also, unlike Bulma is with Vegeta, Sakura feels like a completely different character with Sasuke. Every time she's with him, she becomes a complete doormat that feels like a stuttering Hinata clone.
Her spunkiness and opinionated nature goes out the window as soon as he's in the picture.
Also, it's small but I like how Kishi completely forgot that it was Naruto that complimented Sakura about her forehead disguised as Sasuke so does Sakura still not know that yet? Lol
If you ask me, the story should've ended with Sasuke dead because I feel like that was the only way he could actually be redeemed because talking about this now, I'm starting to have problems with his friendship with Naruto.
Because honestly, Shikamaru looks more of a best friend to Naruto than Sasuke ever was if you really sit down and think about it, lol
Or the other alternative would be like if the idea was to have Sasuke be shy around Sakura, why not have instead of having Sasuke question why she even likes him, have him show some form of regret of leaving her?
Have him wonder why he feels heavy every time his thoughts go back to Sakura? Have Sakura actually call him out on his wrongdoings and show him flabbergasted by it.
Instead of trying to stab her, have him hesitate to even touch her right before Naruto makes the save.
Just SOMETHING to show some form of attraction from his end.
With Sakura, just don't have her be a friggin doormat around him. Have her treat him like how she treats Naruto and Sai, that way it would feel more natural.
I would've loved to see Sakura put Sasuke in his place the same way Bulma does Vegeta when he acted out and it would help with her character development too.
There's a reason people love that relationship, especially in Dragon Ball Super while SasuSaku remains controversial even to this very day...
this entire comment is a MASTERPIECE 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Thank you! This is exactly why this couple just does not work canon wise! We get told this and that about Sasuke and Sakura but we never SEE it happen and what we do see only reinforces the argument that they’re just unhealthy for each other. I know Sasuke Retsuden tries to make their chemistry appear more natural, or convince us that it exists at all, but Sasuke’s contemplation and actions just convinces me that he doesn’t romantically care about Sasuke. Maybe he appreciates her more and likes her far more than he did when he was a teen but without telling Sakura or showing that he cares or admitting he needs to do better as Sakuras husband, all his thinking won’t matter in the end if there’s no action following it. And you know how I know I’m convinced of this? Because if it had been Naruto in Sasuke’s position, the difference in behavior toward Sakura would be NIGHT AND DAY.
@@DayDayDoes the issue really with Sasuke Retsuden is that it feels like both Sasuke and Sakura are completely different characters, especially Sasuke.
Like Boruto in general tries convince us that Sasuke was a jerk to Sakura simply because he's too shy to admit his true feelings, aka, what Toriyama did with Vegeta when it comes to Bulma.
The difference is nothing about that makes any sense because the only basis Kishi has for that is when Sasuke said goodbye to her in Part 1 and even that didn't indicate any romantic feelings towards her.
And the fact that again, he tried to kill her multiple times and even undermined her feelings for him by questioning what she even sees in him doesn't help.
Toriyama at least showed how much Vegeta actually loves Bulma. Not only did Toriyama have Vegeta admit he's been a bad dad to Trunks, he even had Vegeta say to Trunks to go apologize to Bulma for him for being an ungrateful husband right before he sacrificed himself to try and save everyone.
Heck, he even went rage mode against the God of Destruction when he sees her get slapped by him and actually screamed "MY BULMAAAA!!!", has Sasuke ever done something like that?
And again, the fact that both Vegeta and Bulma don't feel like totally different characters when they're seen together onscreen helps too. Neither character loses their individuality while Sakura turns into a generic Hinata clone and Sasuke turns into an even more awkward version of Sai.
Both their spunk and opinionated nature gets squashed in favor of the bland, whatever the hell 'chemistry' Kishi thinks they supposedly have.
Seriously, why do these two act like themselves the most around Naruto but not with each other? I get that it's supposed to show how much Naruto means to the two of them but come on now.
Then again, Naruto himself also loses his personality whenever he's with Hinata but not with Sasuke or Sakura so I guess it all evens out? Lol
It feels like Kishi tried to do what Toriyama did but failed to understand what made it work. It felt more like he was trying to make their relationship look bad on purpose while trying to convince us they're meant to be.
I honestly don't know which couple got the worse treatment tbh.
Naruto getting slapped with the stupid stick and being guilt tripped into falling for Hinata via genjutsu against his will or Sasuke magically having feelings for Sakura with the only justification is because they have a daughter together and yet Sasuke barely shows any affection even after that.
It really does feel like both Naruto and Sasuke only settled for them because the plot demanded for it because they both have a million times more chemistry with each other than they do with their own wives, lmao
what to say ... I could not have said it better than that
@@AshWatson-jh8xs Sasuke’s entire character personality does not excuse his actions. I may be looking at it from a Western lense but no woman should have to feel like a single mother for 13 years doing all the physical and emotional labor in a one-sided marriage while the husband remains absent from not just her life, but also the child’s. Even the new Sasuke novel confirms that he didn’t realize couples being around each other consistently was important or supposed to be a thing! If you like SS, that’s perfectly fine, but Sasuke needs to 👏🏽 do better 👏🏽 as a husband and father because mans is trash at both.
@@AshWatson-jh8xs You do have a point that Sakura has done a few selfless acts for Sasuke, you’re right there. It’s not entirely selfish. And she does become a medical ninja to contribute and catch up to her team, though I don’t recall saying otherwise. However I do want to make a rebuttal. My preference for a canon NS is not because of SP. I loathe SP with a burning passion and have only ever used evidence from the manga to see that NS was a viable option. Kishimoto himself has said on record that the NS moments in the manga were a “red herring” from the “true pairing” which is dumb because he only confused his audience and made the end pair of NH and SS look terrible and a laughing stock. Especially because of how awful Sasuke’s actions towards Sakura were towards the latter half of the manga. A simple “sorry” isn’t going to cut it. Plus he caused so much unnecessary discourse and fight between his audience instead of building up the canon couples. It’s not smart and super messy.
Something about you talking about Karin and Sasuke had me thinking... What if the writer actually intended for him to end up with Karin at one point? Considering she's revealed to be an Uzumaki it would have made their union all the more important since she's related to Naruto, solidifying their bond as brothers more impactfully
Full blood uzumaki and full blood uchiha would have made it so that sasuke's kid was too powerful tbh
If Sasuke and Karin had a kid together it would still look like Sarada
Karin was always a joke bruh, you just have to read the interactions to realize is not deep or serious.
Kishimoto is just that kind of dude that introduces characters, gives the. something interesting for a background but never uses it to the fullest potential.
Karin could be a Six Paths descendant and no one in universe would care.
Kishimoto was extremely biased towards Sasuke and it shows in all Sasuke's relationships. He betrayed Naruto? Naruto thinks he is his best friend. He tried to kill Karin? She forgives him almost instantly. Sakura actually isn't the most egregious example. Sasuke killed Kimimaro's master (Orochimaru). Despite this, Jugo is loyal to Sasuke because..he thinks that Kimimaro would want that. He abandoned Jugo and Suigetsu (he would've used them as meat shields like Karin if given the chance) but they still came crawling back to him. He even makes the villains obsess over him. He betrays Orochimaru but Orochimaru later on comes back, and wants to help him.
I forgot where but someone mentioned that Sasuke suffers no outside consequences for his actions. Some are justified I do admit, but he has caused A LOT of harm and controversy and where he some other non-Uchiha ninja without Naruto as a friend, his ass would have been locked up in a prison somewhere, no out roaming free.
No he wasn't biased at all. Well yeah because he is his best friend. Which is a issue on her part really. Which yeah Kimimaro would have wanted that. They didn't come crawling back to him they just wanted to find out where he was. Which makes sense being the last living Uchiha and all. Which also makes sense for Orochimaru's curious nature.
I hate him to the point I wrote him as a villain.
@@DayDayDoes Sasuke already havwe his entire Clan killed. He was only fight for justice. No he deserves everything good and i was happy how he was capable to steal Sakura and let Naruto with the silver medal Hinata.
To be fair he freed Suigetsu from the water tank prison thing and helped him get Zabuza's sword plus Suigetsu's very laid back and clearly likes fighting and being near Sasuke, he could easily vanish at any time and Sasuke wouldn't even have a reason to chase him
As for Jugo him being loyal to Kimimaro makes sense, Sasuke is considered to be a Momento of Kimimaro so by protecting him his best and first friend's spirit lives on, and neither him nor Kimmimaro should be loyal to Orochimaru at all since the guy just took advantage of them and used them in experiments so Jugo should be pleased Sasuke killed him off, also Sasuke provides the use of his sharingan to calm down Jugo's rage allowing him to experience live outside a prison etc so they are "friends" for a reason, and to be fair Jugo of all characters would be a poor judge of friends since he's so mentally unstable so he wouldn't notice or mind
in the fight v Killer B Sasuke does look at team Taka as a reflection of Team 7 and they seem to be friends, but..that is before he betrays Karin and yeah past the Kage summit it's very odd that Taka/Orochimaru all join up and help him, even them agreeing to help Orochimaru at all is very weird
as a former Sakura who was with a Sasuke I am happy to say I have been with my Lee for 13 years this December and I whole heartedly endorse this video’s message
I'm so happy for you!❤
what changed in you to choose a Lee? genuinley curious.
Sakura and Lee made sense...I never bought the sakura naruto ship
Guess we found the theory to Metal's mother.
pls I’ve been saying for years that Sakura and Lee would’ve been a perfect match and ppl never listen! if he was more conventionally attractive this ship would be soooo popular omg. Also, congrats on your win🩷
I’m gonna be honest, if Kishimoto said Sasuke was asexual and/or aromantic. I would have completely believed him.
He just never, throughout the entire series, ever expressed any feelings towards anyone (and yes that also includes Naruto. His feelings towards him were entirely based around brotherhood and mutual respect. Love never entered the equation and the few times it did, like their kiss, it was treated as a joke by Kishimoto. Seriously, Naruto is one of the most heteronormative series in anime. I highly doubt that he ever intended for there to be any homoerotic subtext between them) and that never changed from start to finish.
Sasuke being aromatic makes sense. To be honest, it would’ve been fine if he stayed single and him and Sakura were just co-parents to Sarada. Hell, their current relationship is practically like that, with him being an absentee parent/husband; why bother having them married or forcing a relationship?
And for Sakura having Sasuke’s kid, she could just want to be a single mother and willingly choose Sasuke to be her sperm donor (or volunteered to be his baby maker to keep his bloodline alive). They also could’ve done blended family rep, by having Sakura marry someone else (who loved her) and gave Sarada a step-dad (or adopted, since Sasuke isn’t in the picture and Sarada grows to love her step/adopted father more).
Honestly, I would prefer it if Sakura just moved on from Sasuke. She acknowledges her feelings for him were just an adolescent crush and she tries to find someone who will actually love her in return. This would have given her something she doesn't have in the series and that’s a character arc.
Sure at the end of the day, it’s swapping one dude for another, but she’s at least proving that she can be happy without being with Sasuke.
Ideally, this person should have been Naruto for many reasons, but studio Pierrot killed that idea, so Rock Lee is the next best option.
@@nunouno001 plus,people don’t really remember that she has IQ of 175
Really high,right?
But Kishi doesn’t really see this potential
@@yuhhare2441 That's one of the problems with Kishimoto in general, he's very utilitarian with his character writing. When he creates a character, he designs them to fulfill a single or set of purposes to advance the plot and that's it. Once they have fulfilled their purpose and are no longer needed for the story, they will be tossed aside and ignored unless it somehow ties back to that singular plot function. Because of this, the cast of Naruto is incredibly flat and static, since most of them are not allowed to grow, change, or even regress out of their assigned roles since then Kishimoto wouldn't be able to tell his story. This isn't an inherently awful way of writing stories, but it also means your characters will be too busy serving the plot instead of having their stories told. Typically you want the characters and plot to work together instead of sacrificing one for the benefit of the other.
There's no better example of this than with Sakura Haruno. She was designed to be the third wheel to prop up the Team 7 Love triangle, and because of that limited focus, everything she did had to in some way revolve around that plot function. Sakura becomes a ninja so she can be with Sasuke, she wants to become stronger so she can be useful to Naruto, and never develops any other desires, goals, or interests unless they also serve Naruto's or Sasuke's stories. If you removed them from the equation, then Sakura would cease to exist as a character because there is nothing about herself that sustains her as a character that exists independently of Naruto or Sasuke. Sakura's IQ could be 50 million but unless it somehow benefits Naruto or Sasuke, it's not going to mean anything.
The funny thing is in all this Shikamaru and temari just works. and i believe it happend on accident and since he never did anything whit it it remained working,
I am convinced that Kishi did not want this ship to happen. So he purposely makes the ship as horrible as possible.
Literally my theory because the characters come across as if their marriages were arranged with no say so
Really not here to fight but apparently this ship was planned at the start. Really the ship isn't horrible well if you look closely sasuke actually cares for sakura (to be fair it's more obv in the manga) technically he def did cause she was her teammate but kishi is really horrible when it comes to romance, their relationship could be portrayed out so much better. I get why you guys said how this ship is 'toxic' but for some reason this ship just owns a special place in my heart (probably because of their genin moments-). Sasuke retsuden tho>>> you can't say their marriage is forced after reading that :(
@@lazycora2832 I don't want to argue, but Even if the statement is accurate and SS was planned from the beginning, the execution was atrocious. Sasuke, in the original feelings for Sakura, was a comrade at best and apathetic at worst. In Shippuden, his attitude towards her is indifferent to malicious. It’s 15 years of content and most of which is negative interactions.
Sakura does all the labor in that relationship (emotional work, child rearing, finances, housework, and saving his ass). Sasuke, on the other hand, is never home, and all the information gathered against the Otsosuki he finds is useless until Sarada is 12.
While I’m enjoying Sasuke Retsuden, It does not make up for 15 years of apathy and malicious actions toward each other.
I do not believe Kishimoto is bad at Romance. He did fine with Minato x Kushina, Tsunade x Dan, and Koran x Yahico, and he did a decent job developing the relationship between Naruto and Sakura. He did not care for now NH and SS and gave them the bare minimum because the fandom preferred these two relationships more. The only thing holding their marriages together is the delusion and what the women are willing to put up with.
It’s not all bad. I do love fan art and fanfiction, and I do love Sarada. If they did more to develop the relationship, I would be down for it.
@@TamaraPizhadze true I absolutely agree with your statement 😭👏
@LionNukara stalker chasing after a guy who had to be manipulated and gaslighted into falling in love with her
Sasuke feels jaded and depressed to me, it seems like he gave up on everything he ever wanted. He wanted to repopulate his clan so he would need a girl for that at one day but he get's forced into a marriage, a daughter and that's it, once she grows up to marry, Uchiha name is gone. He seems completely antisocial, not even understanding the basic human interaction, yet alone a romantic one. Sakura should've just moved on, that would be the best character development for her.
It honestly does, in a future where he apparently comes to term with all that’s happened, it feels/comes across like he’s unsatisfied with everything. He doesn’t have to be a social butterfly but Not even at least communicate with your wife or kid???
Her uchiha name won't be gone tf
I don’t think he put too much thought into this because what if his daughter doesn’t end up with someone and she never gets a kid of her own when she grows up. That means that she would be last of the clan. I don’t think that’s a problem because having kids just for a clan to live on doesn’t sound like a good idea. Like you said about Sasuke, he doesn’t know too much about human interaction. I rather Sakura moving on and giving up her feelings for Sasuke.
@@renflower1910 That's why I feel like he just gave up, if his daughter marries, she'll take her husband last name too so Uchiha clan is pretty much gone. She really should've moved on, find a happy relationship or be the one lucky girl that didnt end up as a house wife. As for Sasuke, he needed a completely new character as his girl because as it is, there's no female character that would be a good fit for him except maybe Temari but she's obviously taken.
As much as I like Sasuke I agree, however when his entire clan was killed in front of eyes it was sort of “replayed” with itachi’s genjitu for thousands of times, so it makes sense he’d go insane. No one bothered to understand him or try to help and instead they put him on a pedal stool. Well except for Naruto, and orochimaru states how if he hadn’t intervened then Sasuke wouldn’t have left and would have forgotten about revenge. I know that it wasn’t relevant to your comment but I wanted to point out he did have someone that cared about him a lot and someone who didn’t put him on a pedal stool like sakura also did. I also said that to agree that Sasuke and sakura really shouldn’t have ended up together, with Sasuke being distant, cold, and traumatized and sakura acting more like a fan girl rather than his partner. I especially hate how her characterization gets thrown away whenever Sasuke is near her and she reverts to her 13 year old self
sasusaku always felt to me like the "girl who doesn't like guy eventually gives in to his so-called affections because the guy won't leave her alone" trope but, like, with opposite genders so it's okay and good actually /sarcasm
Correction "a guy" and I completely agree with you on this point. It's the same exact trope.
How damn corny do you have to be to type “/sarcasm” ya fuckin nerd
Dude I finally found a Sakura Stan that speaks out my mind. It’s so rare to find other Sakura Fans that don’t like SasuSaku
when i first started reading fanfiction i didnt like sakura. but then i actually reread the manga and i realized my perception was skewed by shitty writers
I don't like Sasusaku but Narusaku
@@Themrine2013 fanfictions actually made me like her more 😅😂
I'm late but I'm that one Sakura fan who doesn't like SS
Same here. I've been a Sakura fan for years and never liked SS.
The fact that Sakura fans who claim to genuinely love Sakura are happy with her ending up with sasuke despite the latter tried to kill her multiple times, belittled her, disrespected her, was okay letting her roast in the lava or being stabbed.. just because she eventually got the man she had been pining for.. IS pure garbage. She had little to no dignity as well as self-respect at all but people don't think about it. Glad you are one of those Sakura lovers who knows how terrible SS is..
Nah fr I'm a Sakura fan myself and I dislike SasuSaku because Sasuke treated Sakura like crap and he's not good for her mental health. Like you mentioned, Sasuke tried to kill sakura, belittled and disrespected her, etc. On top of that, after they had Sarada, he just leaves them for 10+ years making Sakura a single mom who raises Sarada all by herself...like WTAF? Sasuke didn't even visit them once during the decade (like bro, out of the ten years you couldn't even take out a single day to visit your wife and daughter?). He's a deadbeat dad and a deadbeat husband. Sasuke honestly should've just stayed single and alone, he was better off that way.
Also, Sakura had wayy more chemisty with Naruto and she should've either ended up with him or maybe even Rock Lee (they would've treated her so much better). Or, I wouldn't mind if Sakura just became single and independent, focusing on being head of the medical department, doing missions, taking care of the orphanages/children's mental health clinics she found/owns, teaching medical ninjutsu, etc and just living her life and having fun. She deserved so much better than that emo duck.
But then again, most SasuSaku are usually pretty young, between the ages of like 11 to young adulthood. So, they don't really understand how toxic SS is. A relationship like SS in real life would result in the girl needing so much therapy to heal afterwards.
While I do believe what Sasuke did to Sakura was terrible, the worst thing was that Sakura was put in the damsell in distress trope that made her victim card so strong.
While I do respect Sakura as a character, I can't say I am her fan because I find her annoying.
@@shahilsheikh1544 I had an argument over it recently. These people's go-to argument is always dragging Hinata into this mess for not being strong enough? like tf does that have to do with sasusaku being trash?
He didn't treat her like crap bruh imagine being a fan of a girl is more like a creep than a actual loving person is beyond me I don't understand people who act like Sasuke didn't have the right to treat her that way.@@lav3nder.bxrbiee334
@@lav3nder.bxrbiee334 I'm also Sakura fan and totally agree with what ur sayin
I love Sakura and I love Sasuke, but together….. no, not really.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
I hate Sasuke
MEEEE YOURE LIKE MEEE
no hate dont love sakura shes trash
@@toyboimaniac1661 we are in the same page
I do not understand how people can claim they love Sakura and still ship her with Sasuke. I see what Sasuke gets out of the relationship. She loves/cares for him unconditionally, she forgives him no matter what, she's essentially a submissive wife in Boruto. She puts his happiness above her own, she never gets angry or even upset over his absence, she isn't allowed to miss him.
Sakura has much better options, even the man who proposed to her in the War arc would have been better for her since he actually appreciated her more than Sasuke ever does in Boruto. Despite this, Sasuke and Sakura have the most fanfiction/fanarts. It's only Sakura fans who make this stuff. Sasuke fans rarely ship him.
You're not wrong 😭
Im a Sasuke fan and i loves Sakura because she loves my Fav Character. Also most of the Sakura fans support her because she really loves him and they are fans of Sasuke's character too. Its impossible to like a character. If you want to erase her feelings. Did you ever read anything or are just creating excuses out of your ass?
Because Sasuke is a better character than Naruto. SasuSaku fans are Sasuke and Sakura fans. Sasuke is a real flawed Character who carried the entire plot in his back and Naruto a boring gary stu.
Also you need to read Boruto more and the novels. Sasuke is clearly a good husband and Sakura is happy.
@@ketsueki708Thank the Gary Stu for making that worthless ship happen. Otherwise Sasuke would’ve finished what he started by slitting Sakura’s throat.
@@ketsueki708 Novels ain’t canon unless stated by Kishimoto and Boruto is a disgrace to the original
I absolutely HATE this ship being cannon (and boruto as a whole, but that's not the point) There's just too much wrong with it. I hate not only that it was obviously done for pure fan service rather than to contribute to the story, but I also hate the message it perpetuates. Of course, fiction is fiction and it shouldn't be that deep, but it bugs me so much to see how this just reinforces the idea that in order to have a fufilling life and be respected you must get married and have kids. In order for Sasuke to be redeemed he must marry the woman he rejected over and over again and have a child. Anyone with a brain can see that, while Sasuke has improved himself and became a better person he is absolutely not suited to be a good husband or parent. The way in wich he neglects his daughter is proof of this. Why couldn't he live a good and redeemed life without the need of having a traditional family when he never showed any interest in this in the first place? Not to mention the trauma and pain he caused to Sakura and showing her still loving him and wanting to be with him is just a terrible example for young impresionable girls. IDK that's just my perspective.
This times a thousand!! Honestly Sasuke being single would have been better for him. He’s got so much to work through. Getting married only seemed to hurt Sakura and make her feel even lonelier. If she hadn’t had Sarada, I’m convinced she would have resented Sasuke. If they needed an Uchiha heir, a long lost child from Itachi or a less conventional style of parenting would have suited Sasuke. It didn’t have to be traditional, but authors and writers in media typically go that route because that’s what society expects. I’m kind of guilty of it too ngl, but at least I can acknowledge when such an ending is not suited to a particular character. Single Sasuke would have been better and made him protective of what he almost ruined for his teammates because of his actions.
@@user-ss8ge4jt4j I SWEAR TO FUCKING BOB
In my opinion, this ship shows why Sasuke is an extremely poorly written character. People think it's just an issue with Sakura's writing and Sasuke is fine on his own. But, Sasuke gets forgiven easily by everyone. He emotionally manipulated Karin and after everything she did for him, he sacrificed her against Danzo. People forget that he was going to kill Karin too just because Tobi told him to. Despite this, Karin instantly forgave him because "he's so cute" and even helps to deliver his child.
@@dattebayo-23453 Are you crazy?! Sasuke never manipulated anyone. Karin followed Sasuke by her own will. Sasuke said a plenty of times if anyone on Taka dislikes his plans. They are free to run away. Karin never did that and she was the one who returns to Sasuke at the War Arc. When Sasuke never even called her back.
@@DayDayDoesSasuke is not responsible by Naruto & Sakura's sick obsession for him.
Everyone trying to be sorry for Sakura when the only reason this relationship even exists is due to her insane obsession with the dude. It's Sasuke that I feel bad for who was forced into this by the author even though he made it clear many times that he isn't interested, I guess that was his punishment at the end of the story.
Justice for Sasuke! @JAM-hg4mp I laughed when Sasuke left and Sakura was a single parent. Sarada questioned if Sakura was the right woman for Sasuke. Remember when Sakura called Kabuto "four eyes" well guess what Sakura your Uchiha daughter has glasses. Turns out Sarada doesn't NEED glasses, she just thinks she wouldn't look like Sasuke (which backfires!). Poor Sasuke man...
@@JadeKuzumiSendju Sakura's obsession only exists because Kishimoto said she would be a terrible person if she moved on from him. That's why people feel bad for her, she should have moved on but her creator didn't let her and somehow flipped that into a bad thing
@@karabo171
Kishimoto: Sakura Haruno would be a terrible person for moving on from Sasuke.
Me: Sakura Haruno would have standards and think wisely about her future. Realized that Sasuke is a loser and a bum. And everyone would like Sakura as a character better.
Kishimoto: I don't get it...
@@JadeKuzumiSendju and on top of that imagine telling young girls to stay with the bum instead of looking for someone who would love and care for them. I don't understand what his intention here was. All I'm getting is "toxic relationships are fine and you would be terrible if you moved on from your terrible partner".
@@karabo171 Some say Sakura should be with Naruto. BUT it would be just like Hinata "The hero gets the girl" But Rock Lee sounds perfect for Sakura. Plus 8 open gates and one hundred strength seal are kinda similar. Both in taijutsu. Sakura and Lee just work together so well.
Unrelated but im so upset they made sasuke do the itachi forhead poke to sakura like what ?!?! It made absolutely no sense ? Itachi used to do it to gently push his brother away its not a fucking love gesture ! Cmon kishimoto do better 🤦🏽
Omfg u said it ! My bad I litteraly wrote this like 1 min before you mentioned it ☠
It's crazy that by the end of the novel the only love gesture is SAKURA leans on HIM its not even sasuke that engages the gesture its so so ridiculous 🤣 no amount of studio pierrot damage control fillers and movies will fix my opinion on the Canon pairings whether it's naruhina sasusaku or else
Because that was the ONLY affectionate gesture he picked up . His EQ is 0 .🤷
The only reason why Sakura ended up with Sasuke is because Hinata ended up with Naruto...but this is not gonna change the fact that Naruhina is a fanservice couple it is underdeveloped because it wasn't planned. Naruto spent the entire manga ( years in-universe) loving sakura he loved her all the way up to the end of the war arc.
Hinata was very clearly meant to be a side character with an unrequited crush, but she became a victim of her own popularity and go shoehorned into a position she was never meant to be in.
I was super confused when I first read chapter 700 naruto never had any interest in hinata and sasuke any in sakura, yet out of nowhere they're married because they need kids for the sequel series, Boruto
Fans didn't want to see Sakura with Naruto, I remember Kishimoto's interview in jump fiesta 2014 at the end of Naruto with Kobayashi, he literally admited that he has received a lot of hate letters from fans about Sakura, and that Hinata like Sakura didn't anything but her popularity just kept going up for reasons he ignored and that part way the story he started thinking whether he should make her the main heroine instead or at least gradually write her into direction of the heroine.
At the end of the interview he downright confirms that the reason he did so was because Sakura was hated and he was pushed into making Hinata the new heroine of Naruto.
It's political. Hinata has political powers sakura don't. So....naruto goals remember?
I wouldn’t like Naruto being with Sakura. The one bullies him even In Shippuden at times. She never ever apologized. There are times she cares about him but she never apologized about the things she made fun of him for. I wouldn’t ever get with someone who made fun of me for being an orphan. Sakura herself is toxic as hell. Naruto can easily do better than her and I’m glad she didn’t end up with Lee.
@@ichigokage Sakura doesn"t bully Naruto, and even for the orphan thing, it was in the beginning of the series when she was a litteral kid and just after that, she told herself to act nicer to him next time, if you've heard about something called development, when she cheers for him in the exam and acknowledge multiple times how he helped her. She began to care about him and even have a friendship and doesn't bully him, infact, she saved him multiples times and defends him when Sai insults him and even lied to him when he hurt her when possessed by Kyubi's chakra so he does not feel bed. Crazy to still say that she "bullies" him based on events that happened at the beginning of the series.
@@flevqntin the manga she act different it's the studio who tried to make her look worse
@@ayhamahmad2277 fr studio made the things worse
It's toxic, the author probably made them together for fan service because many fans wants them to be together.
Sasuke cared for Sakura platonically. But never in a romantic way. This is always in the too 10 worse anime couples in history.
Most likely self inserts like this. They insert themselves to sakura and ship her to sasuke because they like the idea of hot bad boy with a regular cute girl. That's why most sasusaku fans are girls
I can’t speak to what people feel. I can however say that Sasuke has only ever shown platonic actions toward Sakura, and at worst apathetic disregard. If I squint my eyes, maybe fond tolerance when she isn’t acting fangirly but that was in Part 1. Anything in Shippuden and Boruto I wouldn’t classify as healthy or romantic, especially when Sasuke is only making the effort because someone else prompts it instead Of it coming from him because he’s thoughtful of Sakura. Sigh.
Naruto Self Inserts are still Angry? You have no right to claim what Sakura or Sasuke fans should like.
You got one of them already crying under your comment
@@LuizFRochaShe has no right to claim what preferences the fans should have, but she has the right to express her opinion and say that she finds fan's behaviour bad.
The only reason why Sakura ended up with Sasuke is because Naruto ended up with Hinata
When you said SasuSaku fans are teenagers to young adults, it becomes clearer. At that age, I used to enjoy wattpad that was full of vampires kidnapping bland girl or possessive alpha werewolf stories or bad gangster boys 😅, it is the age range and they will hopefully grow out of it.
a lot of them don't, unfortunately, many of them are 30 years old and up still doing this. thank you, kishimoto, you absolute fuck head, for contributing to this quiet epidemic.
Late but yes. They mostly 13-20 year olds who act and have the same schoolgirl crush on a guy.
And I know you already pointed it out but I cannot stand the constant hypocrisy people have and continue to have when it comes to romance in this series.
Like why is it that whenever Naruto's feelings for Sakura are discussed, people are so quick to sweep it under the rug and say he only "loved" her for shallow reasons because he didn't really know anything about her (which is BS, they've had the most screetime together in all of Team 7) but not with Sakura and Hinata?
I've literally seen people ask if Naruto gets with Sakura, what happens to Hinata?
Oh, so he's allowed to move on from his childhood crush but Hinata isn't? Sakura isn't allowed to move on despite the fact that it literally wasn't explained what she liked about Sasuke other than he's hot.
Honestly, it really feels like most people are projecting when it comes to the romance in this series and that's why this blatant double standards keeps happening instead of trying to see the writing as it is...
This times a THOUSAND 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 I’ll forever die on this hill
@@DayDayDoes yeah, it also says a lot when even Naruto's official Japanese VA was surprised by who he ended up with.
Kishi can say he planned it from the start all he wants, what the product says otherwise.
@@AshWatson-jh8xs she don’t have to, she could also be single or with anyone else as well, but if Sakura couldn’t have Sasuke, she probably would have ended up with Naruto because he was so patient with his love for her and not one to force her. She also loves him in her own way and if it should evolve into something more, then that’s cool. Friends to lovers is a thing. Plus shes had signs of maybe leaning towards him, it really depends.
Goddamm, also it could have been a good ending to Hinata's character arc to acknowledge that her crush on Naruto inspired her and helped her grow, and let it go becasue she doesn't need it anymore. She can instead support him as a friend and a clan leader. (Also the fact that Hinata didn't end up clan leader and abolished the caged bird seal is bullshit.)
@@noname144ableyou can really tell he was lying hinata barely exists in the manga Naruto foces on sakura all time remember what he said to minato about sakura being his girlfriend hinata ended with Naruto because of fan service
The panel where he said Sarada is the prove of their love, they do not look happy at all, especially Sasuke, it just screams “yeah unfortunately, got her off my back”
You explained why I think their relationship is badly written and why I don't like the Sasusaku pairing, without hating Sakura or Sasuke. Finally someone who likes the characters but finds their relationship underwhelming. I feel relieved. Thank you.
yesss every explanation I've watched almost all is just hating on either Sakura or sasuke. me personally glad they end up together but their writing is just so bad that it's painful to watch. i especially feel bad for sarada
I think it's fair to hate the characters and ship
@@missstranger7697 what are you even talking about, i wasn't even talking about Boruto?
It's interesting to see Kishimoto's feelings about relationships portrayed in his characters and the relationships he writes.
I wonder how much of the story would have changed if he had learned more about relationships and their dynamics and played cleverly on that 🤔
Honestly, probably much better. His strength in platonic relationships is top tier but as soon as romance becomes involved, it’s a mess. Which is ironic because Minato and Kushina wasn’t a bad love story. Even for a shonen anime
@@DayDayDoeshe isn't bad the problem is all of them happened in the last minute like kishimoto said he planned naruhina form the beginning just look at the manga they barely interact with each other and hinata barely exists in the manga so it's obvious that he is lying
Nah, Sakura shouldn't have ended up with sasuke, but I'm so glad she didn't end up with Naruto either. She beats Naruto up all the time for the smallest things. Kakashi even keeps track of how far away Naruto lands after getting punched by Sakura. She treated Naruto terribly when they were young, jt wasnt until Sasuke called her annoying that she tried to be nice to Naruto. Only good ships are minato with kushina and shikamaru with Temari
Finally someone who isn't a toxic Sakura fan. Her fans literally make her victim card to be so strong.
Thank u soo so so so much for not saying that Sakura should’ve ended up with Naruto knowing damn well that Narusaku is also toxicated , mainly on sakura’s part because of how she unjustifiably treats him . Sakura doesn’t deserve someone like Sasuke and Naruto doesn’t deserve someone like Sasuke . Again thank u 🙏
Sakura hitting Naruto is mostly filler, she rarely hits him in the manga. Sakura is a decent person in manga but her character gets bad in anime
@@Misty_Tomboy_Mermaid I read the manga first. She's not different, she still hit him, she was still mean to him. Her character was no different. Stop making things up to make yourself feel better
finally someone who understands me and loves sakura who understands that both NH and SS are both bad
yep! I love both Sasuke and Sakura, but she deserved better tbh they suck as a couple and were never destined to be together.
@@ObitoUchiha-m4d Why do you love Sasuke? He is a domestic abuser and he abused Sakura for no reason.
@@dattebayo-23453In his defense he made it very clear that he didn't fw her. She was the one who kept chasing him
It should've been SN
@@dattebayo-23453 abused her for no reason? He was getting chased every f"king where by a b"tch he verbally said that hate. Any physical damge she received from is 1000% deserved and vaild.
Ino is really better than Sakura in that case , she forgot about this toxic guy and got a nice boyfriend like Sai
We stan character growth lol 💕
Ino dodged a huge bullet there. I’m glad she at least got to have a happy ending with a man who treats her right.
Looking back now I can’t help but feel that this is the world’s way of punishing Sakura for throwing away a good and healthy friendship for a guy who would never make her happy and whole; just because her friend just so happened to crush on him as well. Never mind that her friend had no intention of making her crush known to her and was perfectly happy to continue their friendship without any drama getting in the way.
Sadly Sakura just can’t seem to content with the idea of having normal healthy relationships with anyone. Anytime someone like Ino, Naruto, or Lee comes along and offers her an alternative she IMMEDIATELY picks the most toxic option available.
I wish there was an in-story reason for this warped mindset she has. Like did her parents molest her as a child to the point where she equates any and all mistreatment and abuse she suffers at the hands of Sasuke as an act of love and affection?
What a great and TRAGIC way of showing just how deep childhood wounds can follow you all the way to adulthood. Not only that but it would make her feel more on par with Naruto and Sasuke as far as tragic backstories are concerned. Because let’s face it, her being bullied for her forehead doesn’t pack the same punch as Naruto being shunned or Sasuke witnessing genocide.
@@MaggieCandy999 and weird enough,she has IQ of 175 (a brilliant person indeed) & Kishimoto really forgets about this,I don’t even think Sakura can be made this dumb,she has lots of potential but ending up being ruined
Imo got with an emo guy. But one that tries. Also we love goth boys. Glad she found someone and grew over her True Crime crush.
I wanted Sakura and Lee to be together;(
It funny how Naruto and Sakura put them self in the toxic relationship with sasuke even tho he told them to leave him alone but ppl still shit on him but dont hold the two dummies accountable
Good video you explain yourself well
Your completely right, Sasuke did tell them to go away. At a certain point, Naruto and Sakura had it coming. You can’t force someone to be around if they don’t want to especially 24/7
Fr I'm trying to tell people about it..they are Sasuke's glazers
Finally someone saying what needed to be said
After going through both pairings again, I just noticed another factoid about them.
By any chance, did you also notice that both Naruto and Sakura didn't try to pursue one another simply because they both thought they would both be the happiest with the person that apparently "loved" them from the start?
I don't know about you but the more I think about this, the more I notice why Kishi has failed to make both NaruHina and SasuSaku look legit.
By trying way too hard to troll people and appeal to angsty teenagers, he unintentionally made NaruSaku look like the healthiest pairing out of all of them.
At this point, they look like they're each others' "the one that got away" even when it's unintentional.
It's hilarious how Naruto stopped trying to pursue Sakura because he thought she would be happier with Sasuke and Sakura didn't try to make a move on Naruto because she felt bad for Hinata and thought she deserved him more.
Seriously, why is their supportiveness of each other mutual while NaruHina and SasuSaku has to be one-sided messes?
Was Naruto even aware of Hinata's goals? And I'm still convinced Sakura never approved of Sasuke's goals until he had a change of heart at the last second....
Narusaku best pairing
@@Abjectbutterfly
Yes❤❤
Hinata Barley exist in the manga and they barely interact with each other so it was the last minute change
I am a Sasuke stan and honestly hate this ship because my baby need therapy not a relationship
Totally the poor man litteraly was traumatised with what happen to his brother and his clan and now he have to deal with a relationship🤦♂️
Yeah truely 🤷♀️
as a fellow sakura stan, SHE DESERVED BETTER. her and naruto would have been a much more fulfilling couple. i feel having her recognize naruto and truly develop feelings for him as she understands him more and more would’ve been so much stronger. and i actually think that ability to overcome her love for sasuke and look at him in a much more objective way would be even more interesting.
imagine the conversation between sasuke and sakura after he kills danzo if she’s actively holding him accountable and having a real conversation with him?
even as an audience, going on that journey WITH sakura and having our idea of sasuke transform through her eyes would be really compelling. and it would help balance out the favoritism sasuke is handed throughout the whole series and change the dynamic between the three of them!!!
sasuke should’ve ended the series either dead or in prison! the way naruto ends…man it just feels like nothing had any real weight to begin with. like nothing really mattered 🤷🏿♂️ i feel like the ending ships only emphasize this. one of the only characters that is done justice throughout this whole series is shikamaru!!!
moral of the story is: don’t go to naruto if you’re looking for a good love story 😂
True,not even mention that thwre are du_m kids in this video comment section who comes from SS side
No one tells them to come here,either
Both Naruto and Sakura deserved each other man... But Hinata, got in the way for that to happen and only Sasuke realised this. What kind of creepy stalker Hinata really was towards Naruto and the potential hapiness Sakura could have if she was with him instead...
I wish so hard that Sakura married Rock Lee, their daughter would basically be Perona from One Piece. Just take a look and tell me I'm wrong!!!
No one will hate Sakura more than Sasuke and kishi
Yes
But people will still hate her😢😢
And isn’t there rumors that Kishimoto kind of based Sakura on his wife???
@@ichigokageyes hinata is based on his wife
Sasuke SMILED TO KARIN!!.
Sasuke and Karin makes sense. At least they have both the same past, both activated for each other a whole power.. he said many times, thank you karin, went to her to see if she's okay,. Said sorry to her and karin can sense chakra so it was very genuine. Taka is perfect for sasuke and Karin suits him so much. Shes very confident, even argues with sasuke. Sasuke listens to her and even agrees with her... so much more happend between them.. even suigetsus statement implied they slept with each other in the hideout.
Also why would sasuke be impressed by sakuras healing when he literally puts he's teeth in karins body to suck her chakra out to heal. He already has seen more haha. I mean even the biting to heal is so sexual and her moaning.. him saying to karin that he NEEDS her. In the manga it's said that the only kunochi Sasuke has acknowledged is karin and to him karin is the strongest (said in the manga), tobi said in danzo arc, that karin is sasukes personal favorite. Please do a video for SK
oh and sasukes genjutsu to sakura.. it just shows he hates sakura.
Sasuke x Karin 💯
He even has a jutsu named Karin. He likes the color red. She has red hair. Sasuke and Karin have a better team duo and bonding. Sakura covers Karin's face (Karin helps deliver Sakura's baby) Why do people like Sakura? Karin has a better drip than Sakura.
@@JadeKuzumiSendju
I can not agree
with you saying ‘Karin has a better drip than sakura’
Instead sasuka likes karin more😢😢
Let's not forget that even when Karin was hurt and Sasuke told Sakura to kill her, Sasuke was ready to kill Sakura before she touched Karin! That blew my mind.
Oh and Sasuke actually took team Taka/Hebi to go recover Karin, only to run into her escaping, where he apologised. Yes, I had to clean my ears, it was nonchalant but he apologised for hurting her. This boy did not even apologize to Sakura for nearly killing her.
@@rhuonaChanel
Yes
U guys are so real
If only more people in the fandom could debate why they think a couple is bad/wrong/toxic/unhealthy like that with out pulling other characters into it or personally attacking IRL people that would be nice but much like asking Sasuke to care about anyone but himself( and Naruto) is asking WAY too much.
33min time stamp I have to say i has been a while since i laughed so hard at what is really a serious moment but so many people think this is ok for a relationship. No doubt Sarada has seen/herd her mother crying herself to sleep at night as that has always bugged me about the SS couple no photos as well as zero content for 12-13 years not to mention all of the excuses and reasons she tells to Sarada and herself as to why Sasuke is never around is just sad and depressing. Often times i refer to Sasuke as the sperm donor and Naruto as her father see as he is the male figure in her life she looks up to.
There is so much trash in Boruto that i am glad i gave up on it early i really tried but more aliens/god at the end of season 1 was enough for me now i think we god androids so it sees more like a bad knock off of "Give me DBZ with out copying DBZ" also is Aida? ment to be a succubus and yet no one see this weird she is hanging around the kids....outside of the gifs/clips of Sarada and Sakura fighting i want to learn nothing else about the series. Lastly why was any of this called Naruto when it has always been about Sasuke and the Uchiha? Like do anyone know who the Uzumaki are who Uzushio was attacked? Does Naruto even know Karin is family? because dam that last one one would think he would be over the moon to learn he had family
In close i think as you said Sakura would of been better off with Naruto Lee alone or as i have often done with Kiba anyone at this point is better than Sasuke as all three named would of cared for and been there for her not to mention the fact Sakura and Naruto's friendship does not really exist in Boruto *sigh*
Aw thank you, i try 😭 you make so many good points. and yeah the whole
SS dynamic is a mess and embarrassing. There’s just so little to work with to make it a natural pairing. I know Naruto isn’t a shoujo anime, but basic character interaction would have worked wonders for the believability aspect. Also, same. I hate that they’ve sidelined Sakura and Naruto’s friendship in Boruto because they didn’t want audiences to see how different Narutos chemistry is with Sakura and Hinata and Sakura’s with Sasuke and Naruto.
Which ep did sarada hear sakura cry
Objectively speaking they look really good with each other. Like it shows in the fanart, the light and dark color contrast between the two. But when you watch the show it’s a completely different story.
That’s how they got my 13 year old self back in the day 😭
The color contrast looks good but overall I feel they look too off. Maybe because I am super into fashion and Sasuke always gets and has really good outfits meanwhile Sakura is the biggest fashion offender in the show. Pink (hair) and red (Sakura's outfit) also look really bad together. The bangle on her wrist is weird. Her NH wedding outfit was awful while everyone else was dressed to the 9s. When you place Sasuke and Sakura together it looks like prince x civilian. Worse would be if the show was some shojo or young adult fiction, Sakura (in terms of aesthetic) seems to be the girl who is Sasuke's butler's love interest. Idk why she is always designed with the worst outfits when she canonically cared about her looks (afaik).
Naruto and Sakura looks much much better
Having kids just for the clan to live on is not a good idea especially in Sasuke’s case. So I don’t really care if Karin has kids or not but if she choose to have kids, I hope it’s not for the clan to live on and she just wants kids because that’s what she wants and is ready for.
And the comment about Sakura should have married Naruto, Lee, or Kakashi… She should definitely NOT end up with Kakashi. He knew her since she was a kid and he was very much a grown man at the time. And he was her teacher. That’s creepy.
i love karin but i dont ship Sasukarin because she deserve better. Yet, i cannot help but feel that SK was supposed to be the end for sasuke. thats what kishimoto was aiming for in my opinion
@istalkghosts497 That’s the same feeling I got when she was introduced! It’s why I hated her character at first! I thought she would just be a singular one and done character but then she kept being around Sasuke and was later given the background of being a confirmed Uzumaki and even given Chakra Chains which only Kushina and past Uzuamki holders were able to do! That’s a big deal! And then have her be there for Sasuke’s Death and Awakening?? It was a lot. If she had no particular significance, why add all that stuff?? Why even keep her around later in Boruto and have her deliver Sarada and be the cause of the baby mama drama?? Why give Sarada the glasses? It’s just a lot of unanswered questions that didn’t need to be there if she hadn’t originally been endgame. At least that’s my belief.
@DayDayDoes when I was listening to your video, you mentioned something about sasuke being more patient than a Saint with Karin which never crossed my mind before. Thank you for bringing that up. This is the beauty of having a discussion video. Also, I have a gut feeling that kishimoto had his own way of rebelling against his editors by making sarada look like karin. I'd to point out 2 more things here
1: Canon Sasuke aka kishimoto's version of sasuke is very selfish and entitled and things the world is his own toy to be simply used. But he asked karin MORE THAN ONCE to be a part of his team. He would've NEVER done such a thing to anyone else. Not even to naruto arguably.
2: The umbilical cord in my humble opinion is the COLOSSAL give away as to who was actually supposed to be satada's mother. Why is Karin treasuring it if she is not sarada's biological mother?
@@DayDayDoes
Why give Sarada glasses
Because
Without glasses in kishimoto’s eyes she looks like her dad a rebel but kishimoto wanted her to look cute.
Hope that helps❤
@@istalkghosts497Your 1° point is so obvious that you don't understand Sasuke's and try to uplift Sakura in a pathetic way.
It doesn't help that Sasuke and Sakura ship just plays right into the incel talking point about looks being all that matters and it doesn't matter how toxic you are and having that insecurity being vindicated in media like this. I think thats an underlying reason why talking about this ship frequently brings out toxicity among the fanbase. It truly was a horrible ship.
I think naruto and sakura should been together
Same 😭
Honestly same
Justice for Rock Lee.
How can he be single while Sasuke is married and not socially ostracized for his previous actions?
Ever since the chunin exams when they first met, I have always envisioned the idea of Rock Lee and Sakura becoming a thing. I feel as if everyone has just forgot it or completely disregarded it and it really breaks my heart. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the idea of SasuSaku because they would've totally been a badass, sexy couple. But I would take Lee and her any day over this bullshit.
Honestly Lee would have been far better then the Sasuke we got
@DayDayDoes No doubt
Wow I finally found a SasuSaku critique video that actually touches on the real things issues with the couple, instead of just hating mindlessly on one character or the other or trying to push some other ship.
Basically problems can be summed up as: Its way too one-sided and the ass backwards way of trying to address it have only made it worse.
You summation is EXACTLY right 👍🏽 Especially on the Studio/Writers trying to make seem more legit
@@DayDayDoes I ship SasuSaku but theres only so much grace you can give it. As for the studios agenda - I'm not sure they are pushing any pairing so much as they are intent on giving Sakura (and Sarada) the shaft. Thats my reading at least.
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In all honesty I was so pissed off when Sasuke got together with Sakura and Naruto with Hinata. Naruto and Sakura’s relationship was set up since like chapter 3 and then it all got retconned. All of a sudden “Oh Naruto only liked Sakura because of his rivalry with Sasuke and he actually liked Hinata all along!” While that sounds like a realistic scenario on its own, it was in NO way set up to be that at all. I would’ve been fine with Part 1 being basically the same, but Part 2 would make it abundantly clear that Naruto and Sakura are not meant for each other.
If Naruto and Sakura got together it would literally be no different from Sasuke and Sakura. Naruto deserves to be with a love interest that actually wants him. I'm so sick of people being talked down to and friend zone and then all of a sudden as soon as other people see you're worthy then they want you. The same thing with Sakura she deserves better than to be with Sasuke. Just like Naruto deserves better than to be with Sakura
I know I'm a year late to the party, but as someone whose older sister wrote a SasuSaku fanfic that went viral, this video is incredibly cathartic to me. Not only does it vindicate my NaruSaku shipping from my teen years, but it also helps me put into words why I could never get on board with SasuSaku. I can also see the ways that my sister was projecting onto Sakura, like you admitted to doing as a teenager, and why she mistook "fixing" a broken man for an actual, loving, healthy dynamic.
Also hearing about how badly Sakura is being treated in Boruto when Naruto or Lee would have treated her like a queen, also just feels like a massive "I told you so" moment. 😆
I feel like people don't understand that writing about unhealthy things in fiction doesn't mean you'd endorse it in reality. Are Naruto and Sasuke an example of a healthy friendship? No, yet people like it because it's entertaining.
@@AdamM-s8j Yeah, that's true, but I find that the type of media people gravitate towards, can say a lot about them. Looking back, my sister loved writing stories about broken/evil guys falling in love with a girl who reforms them. Then she dove headfirst into the "I can fix him" with a self-destructive alcoholic, and was surprised when she couldn't reform him.There's nothing wrong with enjoying a good story, but I fear too many people take the fantasy to heart, and end up internalizing the wrong messages.
Honestly sakura and Lee would have been cute
💯facts
@@DayDayDoes I would have loved to see an arc oh her getting over her old crush and finding love in someone else
WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING THIS ENTIRE TIME!
They were one of my top 3 OTPs until canon broke my heart. 💔
Very true.
Honestly, the cute filler interactions between Sakura and Sai had me rooting for the two of them to get together out of team 7. It's crazy that Kishimoto has said that he knew from the beginning that NaruHina and SasuSaku were where he was taking things (in the latter's case, he outright told Sasuke and Sakura's voice actors early on that their characters were going to end up together), but this isn't reflected at all in the actual development behind any of the big 2 canon couples. That, and he's also admitted to deliberately doing things like paralleling Sakura to Naruto's mother in order throw people off on who Naruto would end up with. If even half the effort Kishimoto put into setting up NaruSaku as a red-herring went into NaruHina and SasuSaku, I think far less people would have been upset with those pairings being canon.
Kishi says a lot of bs in his interviews tbh😭 he's said he planned the ships from the start but he's also said he decided on the canon pairings in the middle of the story. I think he just says whatever he thinks will satisfy the interviewer tbh. Also I will never believe this whole "nrsk was a red herring" narrative cuz it doesn't make sense like it isn't a murder mystery, it's a ship😭. Its very obvious that he made the story up as he went along and that combined with the fact that he's a ppl pleasure who bends to the will of his editors, popularity polls and studio pierrot exec's, is the reason for the canon pairings being what they are
You are spot on! Kishimoto IS SO wishy washy in interviews. He said if Naruto had a son he’d name it Shinachiku and instead we got Boruto which is so cringy. He says one thing and turns around contradicts himself so your not wrong at all.
@@dekuquan7010 anything kishimoto says is damage control atp lmao he tries so hard for fanservice its pitying
The filler episodes are doing so much work for a few ships. I really love the filler episodes from the original series. I don't know why but they seemed to pair Naruto and Hinata whenever they could and it's really cute but Shippuden ruins it by Naruto straight up saying "me and Hinata never hung out together before now". Screw Kishi I still view those scenes as Canon.
@@dekuquan7010 Kishimoto is so inconsistent with what he says and does lmao.
considering how in love kishimoto was in love with sasuke, there was no way any half assed woman written by the man would ever be good enough for his baby boy. but since there was no way he was going leave sasuke unpaired in the end, he might as well pair the poor excuse of a man with the most popular female character in the series.
honestly, i wouldnt be suprised if sasuke was revealed to be canonically gay, cause his relationship with sakura feels like the most self destructive case compulsory heterosexuality. hell, most of the canon relationships feel like they dont like each other, let alone love
The only thing I’d disagree with your cmt is that Sasuke is not clearly gay or straight. Because not only he doesn’t show any interest in women sexually but also in men:v Which is also explainable since he is a traumatized 17 years old.
@@nganta5625sasuke would most likely just be asexual.
That's what happens when you go for looks and ignore all other traits. Like sakura literally just liked Sasuke because he looks good, just cause he looks cute. Also he might be forced by Kishimoto to marry sakyra lmfao
exactly why she even Had a crush on Sasuke. His Bad Boy cool appearance. Kishi made sakura very superficial and no one rarely mentions it on a rant about sakura
13:14
Thank you so much!! Thank you for addressing how Sarada is literally a mini Karin and how Sakura's outfit looks alot like Karin's.
29:06 Sasuke is the embodiment of a deadbeat dad. He is Ging Freecss from Hunter X Hunter levels of deadbeat dad.
I'd say he's even worse than Ging 😶😶 Ging at least contributed (indirectly) to the development of his child at some point, and he got called out in the series by other characters for being a deadbeat father and emotionless when Gon sees him, so...at least he's not seen as a person we should be looking up to, he's shit and everyone knows it.
Sasuke tho??...ew
They just don't want to make Sasuke "affectionate".
I honestly can't blame them, It would feel out of character for him especially if it's regarding Sakura.
No idea if you are still reading comments on a video this old, but I wanted to say thank for voicing pretty much every reason SasuSaku is in my opinion one of the worst pairings I ever seen in any work of fiction in my entire life.
I think a big part of why it irks me still almost 10 years later is that while I have seen relationships that were as bad if not worse than SasuSaku like the relationship between Light and Misa in Death Note and the relationship between the Joker and Harley Quinn from Batman. But I do not believe I have ever seen a work of fiction with a relationship this bad where the source material itself did not make it clear that the relationship was deeply unhealthy at best and made it clear that there was no excusing the abuser's shitty behavior.
I think similarly the problem was seen in Naruhina.
@@missstranger7697 NaruHina is also a bad ship in my opinion but not to the same extent as SasuSaku and for different reasons. Really I think the problems with NaruHina can be summed up with 3 points.
1st, they had almost no interactions in the manga. If you cut out every piece where the two actually interact over the 700 chapter run, I doubt you would have enough to fill a single chapter.
2nd. Hinata's character was almost completely defined by her relationship with Naruto. I remember being absolutely shocked when Hinata was gushing internally about Naruto holding her hand and I was thinking "I get that holding hands is a bigger deal in Japan than in the US but your cousin just died violently in front of you save your life and you are on cloud nine because of a non-romantic hand holding?!"
3rd. The way the Last approached making the ship happen was just insulting. They could have just had a story line showing that after the war, Naruto and Hinata started seeing each other more and the former started developing feelings for the latter which lead to them eventually get married which would have been okay at least. But instead they tried to force idea that Naruto was always loved Hinata, he just did not realize it.
It may not be toxic in of itself or abusive like SasuSaku, but NaruHina quite possibly the most forced ship I have ever seen.
Sakura doesn't love sasuke she likes the idea of sasuke she likes that he is cool and handsome but doesn't understand him or know him as person the proof is when she made funny of naruto for being a orphan not understand that sasuke is also an orphan that shows she doesn't understand sasuke feelings and sasuke never showed interest in sakura thier relationship is toxic and unrealistic they were forced together for the sake of the plot at the end so the writers cloud bring sarada in next generation
You know what killed me in the Sasuke retsuden novel? Sakura described Sasuke as a gentle and pure person and I'm like, WHO IS GENTLE?? PURE??? SASUKE??? She ended up describing Itachi, the wrong Uchiha brother. That's how I knew she does NOT know Sasuke and the writers do not know what the fuck their relationship dynamic is like.
@@DayDayDoes the reason she likes sasuke is simply because he is cool and handsome I mean she doesn't even know the man or understand as person
@@DayDayDoes kishimoto sends a bad message with their relationship I mean they don't even have a relationship because they never dated or spend time together
@@DayDayDoes I think that sakura is mentally ill I swear that her obsession with sasuke who tried to kill many times was creepy and carzy
@@dytgyfgyffuh243 yeah that’s always what I’ve gotten. Because the canon material doesn’t show much of them, it makes their getting together seem random or show us that Sakura’s love for Sasuke was anything more than a deep seated girlhood crush that became an unhealthy form of delulu
SasuSaku is by far the WORST pairing to ever exist in anime history and this is a hill I am willing to die on.
When you have even the writer himself, Misashi Kishimoto, openly admit that Sakura's love for Sasuke is more akin to addiction and any reason would be contrived you have done something VERY wrong. (For the love God, Yes Kishimoto actually said this. Look it up. This was around the NYCC 2015 interviews he said all this.)
Not only that, but even Kishimoto's own wife protested to NaruSaku not happening according Kishimoto himself. The only reason SS got canon was I believe to get Sakura AND Sasuke away from Naruto so Hinata can have a chance because we all know that if Naruto truly had a choice, he would pick Sasuke and Sakura any day over Hinata.
Combine that with the blatant denials of "Sasuke didn't know he loved Sakura. He loved her since the beginning. They understand each other." Did you all really read the same manga? Chapter 693 Sasuke says and I quote: "Did she have fun living in her fantasy world? I see no reason why she should love me and I have NO REASON why I should love her." How much clearer can you get? The man cannot say no loud and they still act like he was indecisive. Like he didn't know. Oh and all of this even after Naruto openly admitted and telling Sai that he loved Sakura. Sai: "Even I can tell that Naruto is in love with you." It got so bad that in the Naruto the Last movie that had to make Naruto believe he didn't know what love was and he only loved people due to his rivalry with Sasuke which makes him an even bigger scumbag than any other character in the series.
Like, what was the point of all this drama if it meant NOTHING?
I can go on and on, but people love being in denial and I am sick of Naruto anyway. This was just the cherry on the top of this horrible sundae that is the Naruto story.
I loathe SakuSasu, I wish Kishi would had the good sense of having Sakura move on and find her own happiness either by herself or with someone else. This is such a bad decision no matter what angle you try to look at it, this pairing should not have happened.
1 year later…..Sasuke took of with Boruto and is now a tree…nothings changed between him and Sakura
i agree 100%. I’ve always hated this ship because it makes no sense. plus rock lee was RIGHT THERE
Honestly it feels like their entire "love story" is just Sasuke can use her to regain the uchiha clan 😂
And even that was a colosal failure because you can’t rebuild a clan with one daughter and almost kill her when you don’t recognize her after seeing for the first time in 13 years 😭
@@DayDayDoeshonestly sakura or hinata who is based on his kishimoto wife i think hinata is based on but oda say sakura
@@sushiljain5689 it’s Sakura who was modeled after his wife Kishimoto confirmed, ironically enough
@@DayDayDoes are you saying lied to me kishimoto fav character is hinata he adore and he say i want that hinata make scarf to nartuo as my wife make and why he say sakura he hate sakura he gave all good featurrs to hinata he even give hinata strongest kunoichi and otsusuki and sakura he hate her the who hate sakura how can he say sakura based on his wife
Tsunade only taught Sakura to grow up and be a women, and Sakura cheated on her and the reason why she did is to want attention from Sasuke.
I'm pretty sure Tsunade did it bc Sakura asked her to
Yes Sakura acted stupid. I found her insufferable, especially with her daughter Sarada. She did anything, but tell her the truth about her father.
Even Naruto had realised, that Sasuke was to be avoided and tried to warn Sakura about it.
Sakura is a wilted flower alongside Sasuke plus all sasusaku moments are non-canon fillers
Her personality SO DIFFERENT in front of Sasuke compared to anyone else! She’s always so jokey and more open when she isn’t with Sasuke. It’s like she’s trying to out mature him and show him she’s different. My heart 😭
@@DayDayDoes Yes, it's true ! if only she had given up her obsession with Sasuke, I'm sure she would have been a fulfilled and happy woman with Naruto or even Lee! she would be herself! bright happy and just tsundere what 😔
@@lu7quinze15 "all sasusaku moments are non-canon fillers" that's a nice argument senator. for some reason I remember the forest of death, zaku, hospital, sasuke's departure in part 1 and much more. I only read the manga but maybe i've bought wrong version. I guess in the real and canon version these moments do not exist. so why don't you back it up with a source?
@@virgil9784 I'm talking about boruto! bro! SS moments are just fan service!
and it's not just those SS moments in Naruto Shippuden and Naruto huh? stop clinging to those moments and live in the present
@@lu7quinze15 stop clinging to those moments and live in the present? you just said "all ss moments are fillers" and they're not. not in part 1, not in shippuden, not in naruto gaiden(worst anime adaptation btw). and not in retsuden. also fanservice doesn't mean filler. and man, no offense, i might be wrong, but judging by your comments and logic("retsuden does not respect any more chronology"), you are very young. and here i am arguing with a kid. so don't mind me and think whatever you like
the only thing is that sasuke saw how useful karin's ability so he pulled up all his act to smitten her and she is willing to give in . i mean this just my thoughts
Another good theory, still treats her better than Sakura tho 😭
@@DayDayDoes agreed
@@user-ss8ge4jt4j yeah something like that would happen oh ! as much i want to do that i had no experience and i am not a fan of spreading miss analysing .
suigetsus statement even implied they already slept in the hideout.
At least he respects and values her abilities tho 😭 not even the bare minimum and it's still better
Plus Surkra was in love with a Sasuke that never existed. Remember how happy she was when he said he wanted to kiss her forehead. Turns out that wasn't Sasuke at all, but Naruto in disguise. To me that was the Sasuke she was chasing, the one that loved her forehead. Too bad she never found out the truth.
I watched this to the very end.
And girl, you are very right. You made every point.
As much as I am not a Sakura fan, thanks to your video, I was able to be more sympathetic with her despite everything being her choice. It is sad that actually she wins nothing out of everything in total.
It also opened my eyes to how toxic Sasuke is as a man in a relationship, despite the fact I am actually not ever a shipper of those two, I can only see people ship them because of how they visually compliment each other in terms of character design and colors.
To be fair, I don't pay much attention to Sakura in the show, and when I do, she acts like a hopeless romantic and does incredibly self damaging decisions I can't get behind.
Nonetheless, I do see that Sasuke is a serious part of the problem.
My full conclusion, in short, is that Sakura and Sasuke are not ever going to be healthy or a good couple.
There is no amount of redeeming that can ever occur that would make these two together, ever be good for each other.
Especially when love is built with reciprocated feelings not by one sided ones.
They are the worst example of how a relationship should be.
It is just very sad.
Honestly this is so well put, even looking at this from an outside perspective, the two as a romantic couple just do not work and neither character benefits or is happy about it. It’s truly sad and even though they’re just fictional characters, still can’t help feeling for both of them. I appreciate your comment!
Well it is not that kishimoto doesnt know how to make relationship. It is because sasuke is kishimoto favourite character. Did you know that sakura is kishimoto wife name??. He paired his favourite with character.
@@naritathapa8875bro regrets marrying his own wife 😂😂😂😂
I discovered Naruto back in 2006 when I was a wee 12 year old lol. My cousin had been in the middle of watching it, so the very first scene I ever saw was Sakura’s inner monologue about raising her hand for Naruto during the chunin exams. I remember asking my cousin “does she like him?” I’m almost 30 now and have been pretty much obsessed with Sakura and Narusaku ever since (even tho the ending made me so angry I took a 9 year break 💀) so needless to say this video had me giggling and kicking my feet on this fine Sunday afternoon. Excellent points all around.
It's soo true i don't get it why kishimoto decided to make sakura have like those eye wrinkles, it makes her look so tired and sad, she looks older than tsunade and mei even though shes younger. I mean why did they have to do my girl like that, it's a blasphemy at this point 😭😭😭😭😭
Saying this before watching the video:
Looking back on it, NaruSaku does seem much more canonically proven through actions than SasuSaku. Even then though, I never really picked up on it and just thought that they were being best friends. Honestly, as much as I enjoy Naruto and Sakura's relationship (minus when they randomly make Sakura do controversial things towards him like that insane fake confession), I much prefer them as a platonic duo. Apart from Jiraiya and Naruto, Sakura and Naruto have always struck me as more of best friends or family than any other two characters. In my opinion, a large part of their relationship's beauty is how Sakura never drastically changed her mind regarding how romantically attracted to Naruto she was, regardless of whether he was an overdramatic child, or dependable leader. They give familial vibes, which I love.
Regardless of how prevalent NaruSaku is, I think we can all agree that both Sasusaku and NaruSasu (SasuNaru?) are incredibly, painfully toxic and unhealthy.
NaruSaku works whether you want a platonic vibe or a romantic vibe. I appreciate that their character chemistry is one that cares about the other and sees the other for who they are and has withstood the test of time. I vibe with the romantic side because it would have completed their arcs better, but that's just me.
And any relationship with Sasuke is going to need major work. Sasuke has to prove with his actions his atonement and love for his friends, family, etc because of how badly he has hurt them in the past with his actions, esp. to those who didn't deserve it. It's just a journey really.
Whoa whoa there buddy don’t go saying that SasuNaru is toxic and is unhealthy and then say narusaku is a way better candidate than SasuNaru which may I point out is definitely not .
Sure I get where the ship Narusaku comes from . It’s based off there building relationship throughout shippuden . But then again look at it again , you can’t tell me that narusaku is not as toxic , mainly on sakura’s part. In part one of Naruto she literally belittles him for being an orphan and calls him annoying straight to his face and then later on never apologizes for it , and despite her efforts trying to be nicer towards Naruto and be patient with him , she fails miserably as she always ends up hitting him , calling him names , and always takes Sasuke’s side . And whenever she is saved my Naruto or both Naruto and Sasuke she mainly think it’s mostly Sasuke’s effort instead of Naruto’s showing her complete lack of faith in Naruto as a teammate and friend and never really formally thanks him or show her gratitude towards him for saving her life multiple times at the cost of his own . And in part two of Naruto , sakura’s relationship with Naruto does get better and progresses more and does stand up for him and believes in him more than she did before , but that doesn’t completely sub side the fact that she tried to kill Sasuke for the sake of her not feeling the burden of Naruto getting further more hurt because of the selfish promise Naruto made for her, completely regarding Naruto’s thoughts and future feelings towards this idea , and on top of that lied to him about her reciprocating the romantic feelings Naruto had for her , also still regarding HIS feelings towards this situation . What type of friend does that , let alone a potential partner .
Second off you can’t completely go off saying that SasuNaru is toxic because technically Sasuke genuinely makes up for most of the terrible situations he’s done to Naruto in shippuden during their talks in Boruto , and their talk after their final battle where he literally expressed how he truly felt about Naruto and how he feels towards him and Naruto literally said that he couldn’t live without Sasuke , and Sasuke couldn’t live without him , because Sasuke is Naruto’s other half , platonic or not . That literally explains that even if Sakura did end up with Naruto she still wouldn’t be able to fill that other half Naruto has and wouldn’t be able to understand him at all and even if she did the emotional barrier between them still wouldn’t disappear. Naruto and Sakura have a sibling like bond relationship considering sakura’s constant behavior towards him . Plus Naruto and Sasuke’s bond was interpreted wayyy too deeply to only be seen as just as friends or brothers . Naruto and sasuke have way more chemistry with each other than they do with their own wives . Sure Naruto and Sasuke might need a little more development and dedication towards their healing relationship in the end of shippuden , mainly on Sasuke’s part , but then again it still makes way more sense than any other ship in Naruto and had way more potential .
So don’t go around hating on SasuNaru , saying that it’s unhealthy and toxicated , because after al, that I have explained , don’t act like Narusaku is any better
sasuke had more chemistry with naruto than with sakura. sure they were rivals, but there were a lot of feelings between them (let it be anger, jealousy or annoyance. But they also cared for each other and called the other one their best friend. plus we even got a kiss from them lol)
The friendship/relationship between him sakura is just blank.
Honestly, I'm right there with you on having been an early fan of Sakura. I was...13? 14?...when the anime was localized for the States and besides Naruto, latched onto Sakura. Even then I recognized that Sasuke did NOT reciprocate Sakura's feelings toward him, and hoped her arc would involve maturing and growing to love Naruto. And I felt the Chunin Exams were going to the start of that journey; and I was _half_ right, before I ultimately became sadly mistaken.
To me, the real problem(s) with Sakura's character, the ones that get the fandom to meme Sakura into oblivion, is that 1) Her name isn't Naruto or Sasuke therefore she isn't allowed to outshine them in any respect, and if anything has to be reduced to a tool to highlight (mainly) Naruto's development, and 2) Actual *years* of character development were thrown out the window in having her get with Sasuke. The only reason I can think Kishi made SasuSaku canon would be because he decided to make NaruHina endgame, and decided to throw Sakura a romantic bone (pun somewhat intended) by having her get her misguided girlhood dream - Sasuke.
I don't even think there needed to be big tweaks to the canon story and presentation thereof to deliver a NaruSaku endgame that would have been emotionally fulfilling and healthy. Have Sakura be the one to free Naruto during his battle with Pain and then get impaled, because that makes so much more sense storywise, with their relationship having so much more development, that the emotional impact of Sakura sacrificing herself for Naruto in that moment is there for both us the readers and Naruto, to justify his rampage; as the scene exists in canon, it only works for the Hinata stans. When Sakura makes her "fakefession" to Naruto, have a panel where Naruto's lip is quivering and he's tensing his fist, because the girl he's in love with just bold-faced lied to his face about liking him, which in his mind means she really doesn't love him back. When Naruto swoops in to save Sakura from Sasuke, give a quick panel of her looking up at him blushing and a look that can be interpreted as "Oh my..." When Sakura rejects the love letter from that Iwa ninja, don't linger on her and show us what she's thinking; keep it a mystery.
The biggest thing I think would need to be changed is fleshing out the moment during the war when she's manually pumping Naruto's heart. When she's afraid he's going to die, I'd invoke that Trinity-Neo scene from the first Matrix movie. But instead of an outright love connection, she tells Naruto all the things about him she thinks are wonderful: his determination, his kindness, how he never gave into darkness despite how much he had been mistreated all his life. As the climax of that moment, she tells him she won't allow him to die, not before she's had the chance to apologize and make up for what she did in the Land of Iron, and she's fine if he hates her afterward, as long as it means he's alive.
From there, Sakura doesn't do any confessing to Sasuke during the final showdown with Kaguya, or offer to join him on his journey of atonement.
The biggest change would be The Last movie, with the whilole structure needing a ground-up reworking. Here, it would be about how Naruto and Sakura's relationship officially blossoms into romance, as well as Hinata's reaction to it and her emotional arc to move on, and tie up loose ends on the Team 7 triangle. They can also expand Sasuke's role - after he's found a collapsed Hiashi, have him offer to join the mission; this could make things awkward between him, Naruto and Sakura, mainly on the latter two's end, but it can also serve as an opportunity to highlight their growth and maturity that they're able to work through it and resolve the issues, rather than leave them simmering beneath the surface like they did as kids. And since Sakura is taking the place of Hinata as Naruto's love interest in this movie, Sasuke can take Sakura's canon role as the one who encourages the romantic development. For the climax of the fight with Toneri, when he's drained Naruto's chakra, have Sakura use Yin Seal: Release, and transfer her chakra into Naruto, who uses it to form a giant pink Rasengan that resembles a flurry of cherry blossom petals blowing in the wind, before Sakura uses the last of her strength to fling Naruto at Toneri to land the finishing blow. Also, take out the red scarf subplot because that was *not* a good look for Hinata; Kushina scarf supremacy.
For the ultimate ending (the New Era), Naruto and Sakura have their two children. Not much really needs to change with Boruto beyond the shape of his face and eyes, I guess. The biggest difference would be their daughter, who I would make look like a pink-haired Kushina, or a redheaded Sakura (where the Uzumaki red hair gene works like IRL red hair which can skip a generation). I imagine her name being Konohana, combining the mythological theme of Kushina with the cherry blossom theme of Sakura, while also mirroring the Third Hokage and Konohamaru where a child is given a name with "Konoha", after the village. And just imagine it - ninja who could move around the battlefield with Flying Thunder God Technique, while throwing punches able to shatter boulders.
You aren't a Sakura fan. You are a NaruSaku who only likes Sakura together with Naruto as a prize.
NaruSaku objectifies Sakura. She is just a prize for Naruto. The ship requires all of Sakura's thoughts & feelings to be erased, ignored, or changed. It's 100% giving Naruto what HE wanted & just sticking Sakura with the guy she never liked.. NaruSaku and self inserts were the white knight, "nice guy", "Cyrano's", while Sakura to to them represented the popular girl they could never get despite showering her with all sorts of affection and nice gestures. Sasuke represented the rival guy. You all believe Naruto's feelings for Sakura represented some kind of tragic love story where he gave up on his non-existent promise to win her heart, and that he went back on his word. They expected Naruto to get the girl and humiliate Sasuke. That's why you're are still so bitter, you didn't get the full progression you wanted.
You all were all trying to live vicariously through Naruto. The NaruSaku narrative was all about a guy insistently pursuing a pretty, girl that wouldn't give him the time of day. It was all about how he, the "nice guy" would win her heart at the end, and that he could get her to see that the evil popular guy was trash, while he the nice guy by being by her side at all times was truly deserving of her affection.
What gets me is that there were opportunities to build their dynamic. It would be interesting is Sakura got over Sasuke and only then he realizes what a badass she is. They both mature, figure out what they want, and only then get together. And let Sakura call him out on his shit, not be infatuated with him like a schoolgirl. As it stands, I like the fanfic, but keep the canon away!
YES exactly that! I want Sasuke to come to HER and show through his actions his sincerity! Her chasing is giving too much pick me with no reciprocation and it’s sad. Would have LOVED to see her grow into her own. 😔
I wanted Sakura and Naruto.
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It was shown that the fangirl-ism brings out the worst in her I always assumed that this was part of her character arc to grow as a person. She would be better off with someone she could be herself and not the fangirling, crush-pleasing doormatt.
The text in Naruto Gaiden basically screams at you begs you to believe that Sarada is sakuras biological daughter. At the same time the evidence (Karin has the umbil-cord, Sarada beeing born outside of Konoha, Highly pregnant Sakura chasing after her guy instead off staying save for the baby) make it more believable that Sakura was the wetnurse for Sarada and than adopted and raised her as a single mother to give her a better life than Karin could give her.
To be fair about the only 1 uchiha thing sasuke in the war arc and after that is a totally different person then when he was as a 13 year old. For example he’s willing to off himself at the final valley with Naruto if that means that their would be peace in the world.
I do like Adult Sasuke’s attitude because he’s a lot more emotionally stable and mature, but even so he still makes TERRIBLE decisions, like making Sakura a single mother all throughout Sarada’s life span. I could forgive everything else but that crossed a line with me, especially because there was no real need
@@DayDayDoesbecause sakura is not the mother.
I remember a male family member said that if a man loved a women he loves her children ...putting my shock over discovering that fatherly love is not by instinct ( like a mother's) aside... this shit is so accurate in real life because if the man doesn't truly love a woman he never sticks around raising their children ...even if he is physically stuck with his family ....and that also applies here ...if sasuke had mutual feelings of love and romance for sakura ...he would have stuck around to see sarada grow up and returned to the village at the slightest given chance instead of running away for 12 or 13 years
he didn't smirked. Ss stans changed the panel and edited it. He's looking like always giving zero shit. Its just a line
He never wanted to rebuild the clan. He wanted to rebuild the dignity of his clan. Hes not even wearing his clan symbol anymore
Me personally I don’t mind the ship, I just think a lot more really could have been explored with it. And that’s where I see Kishimoto’s problem with creating ships and writing female characters.
If anything it just pains me to see Sakura having to raise Sarada all by herself 90% of the time.
Amazing video! Finally someone who really loves Sakura like me and and that acknowledges that both canon pairings are forced and meaningless. Like you, I love the character of Sakura, from the first moment I saw the anime I literally reflected in her and being her fan I always hoped the best for her and her character. Sasuke does not fulfill this role, on the contrary, it represents the obstacle to his maturation as a character; in fact, every time his character is placed next to him, his development regresses and it is a fact. Many Sakura fans say that if you don't appreciate or accept Sakura's love for Sasuke then you are not a fan. Well, I always say that Sakura's character is not based only on appearances but you have to see the substance of the facts. A thousand times it is said that she loves Sasuke ok but a thousand more it is confirmed that she continues to love him for no reason, that her love for him stems mainly from a rivalry with her best friend, that her love is portrayed as selfish and superficial (written by Kishimoto himself in his sketches and reiterated in an interview after the last that Sakura is emotionally obsessed with him not in love). Furthermore Sakura, through a growth path, recognizes that Sasuke does not consider her that way yet she continues to humiliate and bow down to a man who has never given her attention and chapter 693 was the culmination of her disaster as a character. Speaking of SR is a simple fic written by a SS fan and its anime adaptation was done solely for the purpose of earning more profit due to the huge fan base of this couple, it cannot be taken as part of the story as it literally contradicts the canon, is not written by Kishimoto and literally tends to destroy the character of Sasuke and Sakura. I loved your analysis, good, now I have a look at the video on NH too. This video would deserve more view
Omg thank you for your comment 😭💕and I Couldn’t agree more. I’m a proud Sakura fan but my love for her does not blind me to the fact that she deserves better and is just not compatible with Sasuke in canon at all. Most “evidence” you really gotta grab a magnifying glass and speculate which is what character chemistry isn’t supposed to be.
@@DayDayDoes exactly, that's why Kishimoto pulls her between the two protagonists in a different way; to show how his character as well as his development changes depending on the circumstances. Kishi's intention was to portray a realistic and human girl, able to make mistakes and remedy them through experience. The exact same thing also occurs in the case of feelings: she assumes that she loves Sasuke without really knowing him (the few times they interacted it was only because they were both on the same team, you can't claim to really love a person if you don't ever had the opportunity to spend time with her and really get to know her) but at the same time she has new feelings for Naruto who instead finds it hard to understand since she doesn't know what it means to really love someone, feelings that among other things, gradually as the story goes on, they become more and more profound and realistic and in fact the ultimate goal was to make her understand that her true love is Naruto not Sasuke, the boy she thought she loved. We have all happened to fall in love / crush on the wrong man but through a growth path you understand your mistakes and move forward until you really find the guy who makes your heart beat and truly deserves your love. The journey would have ended when Sakura would have discovered that Naruto was the boy who complimented his forehead, not Sasuke (scene already present in chap 3 and also taken up through the Minakushi parallelism). Also take into account the various parallels and symbolisms in favor of the couple (the cherry blossom which blossoms in the presence of the sun and withers in the dark, the sky representing the intellect and the earth associated with physical strength and determination), Sakura is always herself with Naruto and him with her, the time spent together has allowed both of them to grow and get to know each other better, unlike Sasuke Naruto makes Sakura really happy and gives her the attention and love she needs so that can feel good about herself (referring to her large and spacious forehead, always her greatest insecurity) also counts the fact that Kishimoto himself said that Naruto is a reflection of himself while Sakura is based on a model of his wife . I get annoyed by people who say Sakura doesn't love Naruto but only Sasuke because that's what they say. In words we are all good but it is with the facts that we see the substantial difference in the two reports eg. in the chunin exam Sakura was ready to give up the exam just to not see Naruto's dream destroyed (she didn't even think about Sasuke), that in Boruto you still see Sakura as a girl with her first teenage crushes, she knows nothing about her alleged husband and is always compliant with everything her husband does while Sasuke comes and goes when he pleases and prefers to spend more time with his son of his best friend than with his own family. realistically, a relationship like the SS can never be taken to be wholesome and true and it is a fact; however, considering that we are in an idealized world where the only thing that matters are the feelings of the girls and the goal is the gain, no one cares anymore about the dynamics of the couple and prefers to live in fantasies, in which the bad boy falls in love with the girl always devoted to him
@Nukara Rikova First: I would love to know why you NH or SS fans come to the anti couple videos and criticize anyone who thinks differently. If you like NH ok, that's your taste but respect the fact that not all of us agree with you and I'll explain the various reasons why this couple doesn't work. It's not about being a NS fan or a non-shipper, it's about writing with facts. The NH is a couple that is mainly based on Hinata's feelings and how at the end of the story Naruto has to reciprocate because he can't get the girl he wants. Naruto never loved Hinata, he always saw her as a friend and nothing more (he interacted with her 3 times yes and no in the whole story and during the Pain arc Naruto transforms because he couldn't stand the fact that his friend was killed defending him, not because he had feelings for her. This is further accentuated by the fact that in later chapters he again reminds Sai of his love for Sakura.) The whole series and the fact that out of nowhere they have having to produce a film solely focused on the couple explains even more the lack of real development between the two. It's sad to say but in the end Naruto went with Hinata out of guilt and gratitude and that's a fact. Also add the total lack of chemistry between the two, neither of them knows the other well (Hinata loves an ideal of Naruto not the real him; they have never spent time together... how can you say you love a person in any sense? tight if you can't even spend time with her and get to know her well? that's just idealization. The best thing for Hinata's character would have been to let go of her unrequited crush on Naruto, mature as a character by taking Naruto as a point of reference and carry on proving to her father that she is a worthy heiress of her clan). The NH destroys both characters and neither of them is happy: Naruto always takes refuge in work and prefers to sleep in the office or on the sofa rather than being with his family, he sends the clones home (how? Naruto who has always wanted a family ? this is totally OOC) while Hinata is reduced to being a maid, she is no longer a ninja, she has no backbone to educate her children and is totally passive temperamentally speaking. Second, the main problem with NH is that you just rely on the feelings of a secondary character and never think about what the protagonist really wants and that's totally wrong. Does Hinata deserve Naruto because she always loved him? oh well naruto always loved sakura and if we are to play this silly game (love is not a prize and naruto is not a trophy) he is that he is the one who deserves it most of all. A couple, to be defined as such, needs development and feelings on both sides and unfortunately NH and SS do not have these requirements and it is a fact ... unlike the NS which instead had all the potential to become canon but unfortunately the money and the fanservice got the better of it. Also, the fact that even today there are people who come to complain about those who go against their ships despite Naruto being over for years is really funny... it just shows how insecure you too are about their development as a couple but you don't accept it. By
@Nukara Rikova no matter what or who the author had planned (although considering that Sakura is based on his wife's model and Naruto is a reflection of himself I'd say it's more than obvious what his real intentions were but btw) because the facts prove the opposite and speak for themselves. The problem is not who the current couples have become but how they became, it's different
@@alessiagreco8515 Kushina is based on his wife actually
Sakura is my favourite character I don't care what people saying her trash or something else Sakura is a good girl
Same! My love for Sakura is never ending 🥰 but even so, I’m not blinded to her faults. No one is perfect and neither is my girl Sakura, especially when Kishimoto and editors ignore her potential and write her terribly.
Same Sakura is my fave character too and I love her. Studio pierrot and kishimoto did her dirty
Sasuke loves no one more than he loves Naruto tbh, and I’m not even being funny.
Naruto loves Hinata, was still a weird pairing just how everything played out but. It at least makes a little more sense. Sasuke does not give a fuck about that village outside of Naruto. He would not even be there without Naruto. For the longest time my mans would come to the village to only see Naruto and then fucking leave.
What.
@badkarma450 Novels aint canon bro.
If the novels are canon then so is Road to Ninja.
First. Also, I _totally_ agree. Sasuke should have gotten together with Naruto (am a NaruSasu shipper), and Sakura _should have remained single._
yay....... i love narusasu too. i hate sasusaku.
Gay people are weird
Nah, Naruto deserved better 😂.
It should have been:
Naruto x Konoha
Sasuke x Peace and Therapy
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other way around Naruto with Sakura and Sasuke becoming op immortal god who is above human interactions and dose not need them
they don't have any chemistry people just think they do because both are attractive and their color palettes look pretty good together.They feel and fall completely flat
"Why can Hinata and Sakura get over their crushes?" because the real answer is that all of us saw the writing on the wall that the only person Sasuke even kind of cared about at the end there was Naruto, and they couldn't make THAT happen in a shounen manga
I like saskue alone and Sakura alone, together they make the most toxic relationship, it's the same old I can fix him attitude single mother and a distance relationship all in one like how could people still support that! People who support it are probably those crying from toxic relationships in real life
Love this video! Always hated this toxic couple. Sakura shoukd have ended up with Rock Lee, they would have been an amazing power couple. Sasuke should have ened up with Karin so Sarada can be powerful AF, Uchiha and Uzumaki can finally be together
It's just breaks my heart that how better sasusaku could have been but it's just tragic😢
I agree! It’s not a bad premise and their genin days had potential, but Kishimoto did everything and anything to make it look SO BAD in Shippuden and SP made it look worse in Boruto! Marriage isn’t going to fix a one-sided relationship 😭
Sasuke is an abused child with trauma, it took him a long time to learn to love and accomodate with other people with compassion. Sakura, if she was a real person, would not end up with Sasuke. She, instead is a female companion in a manga, she is reduced to pining after Sasuke. She has 2 personalities: strong, energetic and a weak-minded lover girl. She is written like a paper doll who can swing both ways according to the author's intention. Like, Sakura is like a prize to Sasuke. It's like one of those old time where people are pressured to marry and so they forced 2 incompatible people together and hope they will "work it out"
This video was CATHARSIS. My childhood crush on Sakura was (is) real and I'm convinced I only ever shipped Sasusaku cause I wanted to see her happy
Same 😭 They seemed cute on the surface when they're young. In shippuden is when you start seeing the cracks and that's when I realized I didn't care about Sasuke at all. Sakura was everything and deserved better. Once the rose colored glasses fell, I started analyzing everything left and right.
Same. Visually, they do look good together so my 11 yr old self would be shipping then and reading fanfics on them. However now I know that Sakura deserves so much better.
Congrats to be honest... you don't care about, for you all that matters is Sakura and Sasuke is just a prize for her conquer.
That's why I said that Sasuke was right to do what he did against Sakura.
Is it just me or did sasuke just had given sakura shut up ring just to make her shut up
I honestly think Lee and Sakura should have ended up together.
Definitely would have been for the best
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though lee's confessions were played out for jokes , thinking back, i think it held some weight. despite coming from an average family both lee and sakura trained hard to be on the same level as the talented ones in their respective squard.
I love Sakura as a character but God damn I hate her stupidity so much. PLEASE GET OVER SASUKE. She's clearly getting treated like sh*t and she's eating it up. WHYYYY DID THEY HAVE TO DO THIS ON MY FAVORITE CHARACTER
Never really connected with Sakura's character and I hated the way she was senselessly cruel to certain characters at times because she was from a very privileged place (the orphan comments still bothered me to this day), but christ, she deserves better. Sasuke's attitudes at least made sense considering how traumatized he was and never got a proper therapy session to this day. Yet he still deserves better.
Both Sasuke and she deserves more than what they got, just not each other.
They should've just let Sasuke stay single and have it as part of his super secret mission that he "sowing his oats" and then training those kids to be secret group to look at the leaf village from the shadows like him
I felt so vindicated watching this😭😭
Happy to serve 🫡😂
Even when Shippuden ended as a kid I I still claimed and debated that Naruto and Sakura was were meant to be together in the end and not with got. NaruSaku forever‼
Kishi did her really dirty huh?! the WORST imo..
honestly I feel that Sakura should have gotten over her idiotic feelings for Sasuke when he tried to kill her multiple times (and also disrespect her throughout), especially before fighting Naruto after the war.
She should have ended up with Naruto and Hinata with Neji, (kishi killed Neji like it was nothing, the arrow that hit Neji could have been deflected by a Gentle Fist Air Palm).
That was the real dipping point for Sakura imo. It's really sad. She's the worst written character in all shonen n entertainment imo.
P.S. - I really love Sakura, her design n her character. 😢
we all known sasuke should have ended up with naruto