Sakura was OBSESSED with Sasuke, but had the AUDACITY to say she didn't think he wore glasses!? That alone ruined any possibility of taking this seriously
Because sasuke stays away from him. Sakura is so obsessed willing to stay in a loveless marriage, they don't even have a wedding photo where she just taped herself over Karin. Sarada doesn't even know about her own father
Sasuke had a messenger hawk and his own visual prowess to help his teleport. If he could keep in touch with naruto why not his family? And please bring the "sasuke kun wanted to protect his family that's why he did not interact with his family" bullshit. The dude doesnt even need to knock at the door of his own house. He can just teleport himself into the house itself.
Lol we all know the truth, he just doesn’t give a rat’s ass about them and probably views them both as a means to an end. Sakura: incubator Sarada: Uchiha clan revival tool He only gives a sh*t about Naruto, that’s always been consistent and a constant.
Right? She doesn’t believe it. We don’t believe it. Hell, Sasuke doesn’t believe it. He tried to kill Sarada and then ignored her. She should really have a “Same trauma” talk with her mom
I think sasuke wanted to be alone. He told Sakura that he will come back but he didn’t. She got tired of waiting so she chased after him again🤦♀️ She found him, she got pregnant, he told her to come back to the leaf but she did not listen. She gave birth and again he left her for 12 years 🤦♀️🤦♀️ He did not write a letter to her and to his daughter. I think Sakura was one of this girls who do not know what to do so they get pregnant because they think that their lover will stay. This relationship is not right. I feel sorry for Sakura and i am mad that she was written so badly.
I’m sorry but everything you said is completely off by a mile Sasuke told Sakura that he would return which he did in sasuke shinden novel “he stated that he returned to the village” also sasuke never told her to go back to the leaf idk where you get that from 🗿 they traveled together an Sakura just got pregnant on that journey. sasuke had a mission to attend to he wasn’t gone for 12 years. How would Sakura not know what to do when she’s a medical during pregnancy 😂💀 an she didn’t get pregnant for there love to stay 🤦♂️
Gay or not, Naruto and Sasuke are the happiest around each other. Sakura probably thought she could guilt-trip Sasuke into marrying her, like Hinata did Naruto. I think Sakura deserves her unhappy marriage.
@@lilsavage337 Novels are not canon, gaiden is and from gaiden we know that she chased after him. If you would read with understanding you would know that Sasuke came back to the village for a hokage meeting about Kaguya and then he got this mission. Before he just left her after she gave birth for no one knows what mission.. and seeing that Naruto during Kaguya meeting was hokage, it means Sarada was 7 years old just like Boruto and Sasuke never borhered to visit his child and Sakura never bothered to bring Sarada to meet her father... nice family
@@lucyred6523 the novels are canon. I already know he came back to talking about more threats like kaguya that was the mission he was giving even Sakura was there when he took it so all that doesn’t even matter anymore
@@lilsavage337 They are not, proof: In literature, the term "canon" is used to distinguish between the original works of a writer who created certain characters and/or settings, and the later works of other writers who took up the same characters or setting. For example, the canon of Sherlock Holmes consists of the 56 short stories and four novels written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle that feature the detective Sherlock Holmes.[11] The subsequent works by other authors who also used the character Sherlock Holmes are considered "non-canonical".
Chocho is an awful friend... she's the kind that makes EVERYTHING about her. "My dad isn't my real dad because I am cool and my dad is fat" meanwhile Sarada is literally having a crisis because she has traits her parents dont and has found a picture of Karin, Sasukes old team mate. Not to mention, she has never met her dad. Not to mention, ChoCho clearly knows Akemichi technqiues... which is a kekkai Genki so what the fuck is her problem. Shes also the only tanned kid in the village.
When the whole "Sarada is Karins daughter" was first teased I hoped whole heartedly that it was true. It would explain why everyone was so doggy about Sarada's birth. Imagine if Karin died in childbirth or someother way shortly after Sarada was born and Sasuke just dumped her in Konoha cause "He needs to attone". Maybe Naruto was gonna raise her first but then Sakura volunteered and pretended to be Sasuke's wife/Sarada's biological mom so that she could have a normal childhood(at this point she has 0 feelings towards Sasuke and is even pissed at him cause how he abandoned Sarada). Then this whole manga would be about Sarada accepting his father is a deadbeat and embracing Sakura as her mom even tho they aren't related by blood cause "bonds are more important than blood". She could even change her name to be Sarada Haruno and Sasuke could just go on being a deadbeat. Everybody wins
to add on to this, sasuke and saradas relationship could be built from scratch and not just be all fine after his miserable marriage gets confirmed to be real. i just wish we could’ve actually gotten sasuke be a father (since they gave him a daughter), i get that itd be hard but considering the love for his family is his the reason he pursued his vengeance so hard it would make sense to make him a very loving father, even if he started lat (one does not recover from trauma in a heartbeat. it wouldnt be unreasonable to make him have to work through being a good dad!)
Fun fact About the Scarlet Spring title in Japanese when you break down the Kanji letters that got translated to Scarlet Spring you get 3 words Scarlet, Flower & Moon which is a direct reference to the Infinite Tsukuyomi.
Sasuke: *Tries to kill Sakura many times, left her to raise their daughter and pay mortgages alone for 12 years, has the Rinnegan and didn't even bother to send her a letter, but conveniently manages to meet Naruto* SasuSaku shippers: This is beautiful, I've stared at this for 5 hours now
So basically Sasuke was like: got a kid check, now onto next thing on my bucket list. What other things do human beings want? Travelling? Ah yes, travelling! I'm going to ask my boyfriend for a long-term mission outside of Konoha! Also poor Sakura. Sweetie, just because you had a child with lizard person doesn't mean you have to be constantly affection starved. I'm pretty sure you could find a man or woman who would treat you like a human being instead of an incubator. Sarada's parentage drama is so convoluted and pointless... I just have no words.
I'd say one of the biggest problems with this Gaiden is that it makes it always the possibility that Sarada is Kairn's child and not Sakura's, since I think in Japanese culture the mother keeps the umbilical cord. Now I would prefer SasuKarin over SasuSaku any day, but Kishimoto screwed any chance of that happening with this mess of an ending, which somehow gets even more messier with pointless drama like this making us ask if Sakura and Sasuke really are in love or even had a kid. He is not going to win back fans who like the idea of Karin together with Sasuke back by doing stuff like this as he has already made it clear in the ending that those two wouldn't be a thing. In fact I'd say it would even more than likely make any self respecting Sasusaku fan (if there are any at this point) mad that he is screwing them over by even the slightest possibility that those two aren't really together and I doubt he can afford to loss more of the fandom than he already has. The only thing I enjoyed in this Gaiden is that Sakura gets to fight Shin, but that was done much better in the anime adaption where they even let her be the one to beat him in the end. Which surprised me given how Studio Pierrot has treated her character in the past. Also I would enjoy seeing when you thought Bleach went downhill. Though truth be told given the state of Naruto I'd rather check out a bleach spin off than Boruto.
@@hungry_khid1007 sakura is her real mother, this whole gaiden was basically to prove that. sakura had sarada while she was traveling with sasuke, hence why she had sarada in one of orochimaru’s hideout with the help of karin delivering sarada. tbh i don’t like the whole family drama, i would’ve preferred sasuke just coming back from his trip and enjoying a nice dinner with his family. i think it was unecessary troll drama for no reason but it is what it is.
SARADA IS SAKURA'S DAUGHTER🤷 SHE HAD HER IN ONE OF OROCHIMORO'S CAVE BECAUSE SHE COULD NOT ON HER TRAVELS WITH SASUKE GET BACK TO KONOHA ON TIME TO BIRTH HER THERE 🤷AND KARIN HELPED WITH THE DELIVERY WATCH THE BORUTO SERIES AND SEE KARIN OUT OF HER OWN MOUTH CONFIRM THE UMBILICAL CORD WAS SAKURA'S🤷 AND SHE KEPT IT AS A SOUVENIR AND SHE BLOOD TESTED IT AND IT WAS SAKURA'S 🤷KARIN PROVED IT TO EVERYONE THAT DOUBTED AND THIS IS OLD🤷
Excellent work Greg, I don't know why Kishimoto didn't just end the series right as Naruto became Hokage. Since your doing character videos next, I'd like to share a comment I made on a video from a guy who's not a fan of female characters. So here we go. Sakura, Ino, Hinata are all driven by love and that's it, that's their character. Their only goal in life is to try and get the boy of their dreams, and there's nothing wrong with that but you got to give your characters something more than just being a love interest for another character. Sakura is a very interesting character; she had the most development of all the other females starting as a weak and desperate fangirl for Sasuke to becoming a student of the legendary sannin tsunade, that’s pretty good. As time pasted she grew she stops seeing Naruto as just the village idiot and saw him as her friend and teammate, and yes she still hits him a lot but that’s just a stupid gag from the studio that got stale pretty quickly. Unfortunately for her Kishimoto decided to go backwards in her development when Sasuke got into the picture; reverting all that lovely character development for an unhealthy obsession with a man trying to kill her and her friends, why Kishimoto did this I don’t know. Her love was not genuine; it was lackluster and shallow, and that’s kind of sad. It’s would have been a nice moment when Sasuke is rambling about killing everyone and Sakura walks ups to him and slaps him in the face, like when Rickert slapped Griffith after he found out about the eclipse. Then she moves on from him and finds someone who genuinely loves her, like Naruto or Rock Lee who laid down their lives to protect her. Ino is the same deal as Sakura, only she is her rival like Sasuke is to Naruto. Ino could have had a better character then just Sakura 2.0, she could started out that way and then (like Sakura from my previous statement) move on from Sasuke. Hinata is very similar to both Sakura and Ino but there a twist; she likes naruto and she’s shy. I don’t understand why people like Hinata so much and then throw sakura and the other girls down an elevator shaft. Her dialogue is mostly “Naruto kun!” and she does not interact with Naruto much, yes she expressed her love to Naruto when she faced pain but for some reason they never had a moment to be together and talk like actual people after the that. The studio who worked on Naruto spent so much time to fetishize her they couldn’t care to give her a filler episode where her and Naruto go on a mission and talk to one another, like real people. Hinate should have made a name for herself and prove to Neji that she can be strong, that she can be brave. But alas such dream are a far-cry now. Tenten, Temari, and Anko are interesting cases to say the least, they are not motivated by love and seem to actually have goals, wants and a personality that isn’t a stereotype; so what’s the problem? They have minimal impact on the story, no screen time to explore their individual characters and then thrown away like a used condom on the streets of Los-Vegas. Ten-Ten is a weapons master, but we never see her fight except for the one against temari and that wasn't even shown on screen in the manga and all others were filler . She was never once given the light of day like neji or lee (but even they didn't do much after part 1) to her own person instead of a rain drop in a bucket full of holes. Ten-Ten should have fought by switching weapons to adapt to the situation and opponents, basically she should be like link for the legend of Zelda, Using a the tools and weapons at his disposal to surpass and obstacle. Temari is the same deal, but a least got some credibility, but not much. She only known for being gaara's sister and for her fight with ten-ten, oh and her relationship with shukimaru. All temari's done was act snobby towards the leaf ninja and becoming a brood mare for shikimaru (but I have to admit they do seem to be the only couple that would work in real life.) Anko had the most potential squandered, being a student of orochimaru and any time his name was mentioned she was there in a split. So could you guess what kishimoto do with her? ABSOLUTLY F**KING NOTHING, THAT'S WHAT!!! She literally became nothing more then a battery for kabuto and a parasitic host to bring orochimaru back. It’s sad too, I would very fascinated by these three when I was a kid back in the day (I still do too), such wasted potential. I’m sorry my lovelies, maybe one day a better writer can give you the justice you deserve. To add some more salt of the wound, kishimoto decided to make all of the girls married and become housewives, Yeah. Now there's nothing wrong with being a housewife, but why do all of them need to be (of course ten-ten is single and anko is overweight now, why does he do this?) they could have had other jobs to help their families, or become teachers. Nope, housewives, "To the kitchen with you women!" Also regarding shipping, it is a infectious disease that plagues anime and all other forms of media alike. Horny Teens and lonely adults with too much time on their hand spend years belittling others in their "ship wars" that spill over into the story and (unfortunately) real life. I assume you heard of the naru-hina/naru-saku divide (god that shit is dumb) where people made tumblur blogs hating Hinate, A fictional character, just because she ended up with naruto. Along with sending death threats to Kishimoto, and some burning their entire collection of naruto manga. Like bleach and one piece, catering to shippers, NEVER ONCE! Kishimoto is a great artist no doubt about it, but his writing skills are questionable at best, horrible at worst. Oh and If you use the “Kishimoto said he can write female characters right.” Argument Then Kishimoto doesn’t understand character writing at all. Writing a female character is no different then writing a male character, their genders should not define who they are. Well that was a long rant. Oh and by the way, if you were so kind as to read this entire post I thank you for your time reading . Peace Greg and kind reader ( ̄▽ ̄)V
Cameron thanks.... yeah the shipping war got bad. Characters video well I don’t know if I’ll even do Tenten because she really doesn’t have a character.
@@thewildhuntsman8255 The best rant I have read in a while. And correct too. I would only add how underpowered they make women characters in Naruto. I mean combat wise. Strongest female character is literally Orochimaru.
@@RetrospectGreg I love how sakura is a housewife in the last chapter not shown being a nurse smdh and how they just don't bother to draw hinata and naruto as a couple once to keep it kinda open ended if there was no boruto content like based on that last chapter naruto could of had a kid with anyone so could hinata cause their kids look like them and they are never all 4 together in a panel...you can kinda still think they didn't get together...kishi is such a troll
@@razkable I disagree, Boruto and Naruto are like Lee and his son, but then there is Himawari, who is the actual kid that got a copy paste from both parents and you just know who the parents are. But funnily enough they showed Boruto's sketches first, some NaruSakus got their hopes up UNTIL they released Himawari's.
In my personal opinion, Sasuke and Karin's relationship made more sense than Sasuke and Sakura. Karin actually had a reason for liking Sasuke that we actually knew and when she knew Sasuke "liked" Sakura she let him have her because she wanted him to be happy. His misbehavior with her is quite similar to his misbehavior with Sakura, but on the upper side we can actually understand Karin's attachment to him. Plus, there was that one filler episode where we got to see Karin's Tsukiyomi and her backstory, which IMO makes an even stronger argument for Karin (and there was also those chapters where Naruto and Sasuke were dying during the war arc). The last chapter of the Gaiden in my opinion made it even worse for Sasuke and Sakura, as that line of their bond being Sarada reminds me of what divorced or would be divorced parents tell their kids (plus, look at Sakura's face). Sakura looks unstable and they have little chemistry. I believe the Gaiden could have been better if it had been something like Sarada actually was Sasuke and Karin's but Karin died or something and Sasuke got together with Sakura afterwards and Sakura would raise Sarada (which could go with strong bonds that don't rely on blood relationships). Sasuke wouldn't be as close to Sakura as he was to Karin, and it could be a result of her death, but her proximity with Sarada would "keep them together". It's not THAT better but I think it would actually have been better than what we got (as the Gaiden IMO felt more like a filler than anything as aside from meeting Sasuke we didn't get anywhere).
"A novel says that Sakura and Sasuke are constantly sending each other letters" Then why he didn't know how Sarada looked like? Why Sakura questioned herself if he wore glasses or not, why keep said letters from their daughter? What? Does said "constant letters" contain secret political things? Or 18+ content? Lol, even if they come up with that (ha! what a joke), wow, good parenting, they rather be horny than take care of their daughter They truly deserve each other, at least this way they only hurt themselves and their daughter.
@@RetrospectGreg I'll try to be as vague as possible. There was a timeskip. In Chapter One of the Timeskip, Teenager Sarada says this to two other characters: "Lord Seventh once brought back my dad, who'd gone rogue and committed great crimes. He became Hokage while still a Genin." So yes, she probably knows all about that.
I think a good twist back in shippuden would have been if sakura had turned evil. Take her obsession with sasuke further, give her something to do. Suddenly you've got a healer that can punch people into the ground.
Sounds like a cool premise. Could be like the Harley Quinn thing where he abuses her into insanity and she becomes a sort of henchmen and ppl try to save her but maybe involve ino in that would be cute if she ended up being the one to end up saving her and it‘d also be wholesome. Another one I‘d personally have liked would be her own arc about a secret technique she had locked away till shippuden that she will unlock during a arc that focuses on her. I always liked the idea od sakura struggling with parental abuse as a contrast to Sasuke and Naruto‘s trauma. Would also make her anger issues and her fixation on someone who doesn‘t care for her and even harms her seem more explainable. Like, you have these 2 orphans thinking hsving parents is the best thing ever and then u have sakura. A selfish, stuck up whiny and aggro girl superfically obsessed with sasuke but suddenly the rug is pulled and the ungreatfulness towards her parents is her resenting her mother for being her biggest bully and a threat to her, her voilent outburst is her learning violence is the answer from her mother and her obsession with sasuke is hinking his distance and verbal abuse while she begs for any kind of love is normal cause she lived that with her mom. Now throw a mental illness in as well triggered by never reaching Sasuke or Naruto‘s level plus maybe self hatred issues leading to self harm, recklessness and even su*cide perhaps amd you have a bomb of an arc about her and why she is so messed up as well as a wholesome part of it where Kakashi and Naruto try and just be there for her and Naruto acknowledges her pain with her parents and also learns that not all parents are a blessing. It could just be a really nice arc and the sasuke obsession stopping would also be great. Maybe she could fall for Naruto in the end seeing how sasuke is abusing everyone for selfish reasons and wanting to protect naruto because he‘s been there for her listening and nobody did before. It‘d be a nice healthy dynamic, the war themes wouldn‘t feel off since sakura has no kind of struggle with her past like nearly all characters have to get depth and also this could help a lot in making sakura change from a dysfunctional mess and kind of a stalker who abuses her friends to someone who is trying actively to be a better person and ending up maybe even saving Naruto from sasuke in the last fight. And this may sound a bit too much but think about it. Team 7 includes Sakura. And our issue with her is that she‘s neglected hugely from the narrative. Now if we build her up like the rest of the main cast as more than just a wife to win for the main characters, then we have to use her somewhere in the final fight. And one way to both wow the audience as well as including her would be her saving naruto last minute and defending him. Hell, maybe even killing her in the process making Naruto hugely regret giving him so much attention although sakura did actually care for him only to end up dying because he didn‘t let go of sasuke. What anslap in the face and lesson would that be about love and friendship. Well, it certainly would be controversial and tragic, but at the same time ppl usually praise anime or art the most that actually subverts for the sake of an actual healtfelt message. And what would be a better message than slapping naruto in the face with: „if you keep thinking you can save anyone and chose to hyperfocus on the villian who hurt and murdered plenty of your friends, someone who actjally loves you may end up dying and it‘s your own fault in a way because you chose to ignore themfor the sake of someone who doesn‘t love you back. Just like sakura would be doomed with trying to get with sasuke and risking naruto‘s life for that, so would the table have turned and we‘d realize that in a way Naruto and Sakura were the same. But only one of them learned their lesson, and in the end it was sakura who had to pay the price of misdirected love because naruto chose to make the same mistake sakura made in the past. It‘d come full circle and would also show us as the audience the realism of friendships or love where you have to beg the other party for attention or have to constantly play therapist for them is a toxic relationship that can ruin your life. And sure it aim‘t no regular ending, but usually all media that impacts us deeply for years have one thing in common. And that usually is uncomventional subversive endings.
Hell no, her obsession with Sasuke, is what we hated about her, she ruined her friendship with Ino because of Sasuke, if she had turned evil because of him we would hate her even more lol
If she had balls to throw away morality, she could become second Kabuto, but even deadlier. She's supposed to be genius in chakra control and smart with theory. Like imagine her doing same medical tricks like Kabuto, but add to it physical stench, Sasori's poison and Orochimarus secret knowledge. She could become killing machine. P.S. she was actually dangerously close to being evil, so I could see it happening. 1. When she wanted to kill Sasuke he gave her choice to join him by killing Karin. 2. When Sasuke desidet to leave Konoha, I think Sakura had a chanse to say "Let me go with you". We saw that she is insecure about her weakness, and perhaps she could saw it as opportunity to both be with Sasuke and become stronger.
They could have fixed the whole story by adding that Sasuke has been gone for ten years and hasn’t bothered to reach out to anyone as he moves to different dimensions. His perception of time gets muddled, so he thinks a few months of being on a mission is several years away from his friends and family. But I guess Kishi wanted us to get on the Sauske is a lousy father train.
my god all these years and I actually never thought of this. this would have been perfect honestly - any other explanation would have just felt like a stupid excuse to stay away. you should have co written with kishi :/
That...... actually would have worked! I guess the side effect would be that we'd have a Sasuke in his early 20's while the rest of his generation were in their 30's but still...
OMG, THANK YOU!!!. I am so glad I am not the only one to feel this way about this shitty story of pairing drama and family affairs. By the way, do you find it disturbing that Karin has the cord since...in Japanese tradition...the BIRTH MOTHER is the one to keep it? Why does Karin even have it if she is not Salad's mother and why does Salad need to wear glasses at all? I can't get a single answer for these two questions. Oh so it is natural to exchange weird gifts during birth? "Here, take the umbilical cord." "Thanks, and here take my glasses and make your daughter wear them for no reason." This story blows
Yes, so many shipper get mad when people even mention Karin might be sarada month but the entire thing literally points in that direction, some say sarada doesn't wear glasses cuz she needs them, then why does she wear them then, did Sakura just give some glasses and say wear and sarada never questioned it, why did she believe Karin was her mom if she doesn't even need glasses at all, would've make sense for her to believe Sasuke wasn't her dad instead , she didn't have sharigan yet so how could she be sure he was her dad but not Sakura the woman who love her unconditionally, it's an unnecessary red herring to make money of crazed shipper to give them Hope
@@albinoadinross Stories try to debunk it, but here is the thing...it makes more sense for Karin to be Salad'd birth mother than Sakura's. They say one thing, the story itself says another. The chronological events don't align up correctly and it is near impossible for it to occur the way the story wants you to believe. Sasuke can't hug or kiss his wife, but he supposedly can have sex with her? Some say they did in the light novel, but that canon is debatable and I could also argue it was a fantasy in Sakura's head Sasuke was literally never there in the village for it to even happen. Basically counting Salad's age, birth, and conception...Sasuke was not even in the same area. Sakura couldn't remember if Sasuke had glasses. Sasuke and Sakura are never officially married. They never got a single moment where they had a marriage. The only way that it can logically happen is of Sakura was artificiallt inseminated thanks to Orochimaru since she knew where his base was. Even if they hammer into me that Salad is Sakura's kid...NOTHING in the actual story supports and this is one of those show not tell lind of things. All in all...I think it is a massive retcon.
@@scottsommer9843 Sakura is indeed the mother you gotta be seriously delusional an it’s been years. Everything in the story supports that Sakura is the mother of sarada Sasuke an sakura are officially married the rest you just said is nothing but head canon 💀. Also kishimoto stated that he gave sarada glasses for character design an she caught a high fever that effected her vision after awakening the sharingan at a very young 😂🤦♂️
I like how in the Sakura novel she wants to help kids, be a sort of psychiatrist for them. But in Gaiden she still can't control her emotions😭 she is so useless.
The big turn off for me with boruto is the ships and children everyone had. It really should’ve been Naruto X Sakura 2 kids with their daughter being the main protagonist. Sasuke being alone Choji being alone Shikamaru and Temari whatever it’s fine don’t really care about it.
i agree with you , kishimoto created pairings that are toxic and make no sense and gave useless children to useless characters ( choji , sai ) . the ending should have been: Naruto married with kids ( he deserves a family ), Sakura married , Sasuke alone ( being a father is not a priority for him plus he left sakura and sarada for 12 years )Kakashi maybe not married but at least with a child ( he suffered a lot , he deserves a family more than other characters ) shikamaru married , sai, ino, kiba , shino - i don't give a fuck about them
Not gonna lie. I thought the story was alright. It's definitely far from perfect and I agree with just about every point in your video. Thanks for making this.
it was never implied that they never kissed, in fact they kissed in one of the novels. what happened was when sarada asked sakura if they ever kissed sakura was remembering “something better than a kiss”, meaning the forehead poke. honestly i like sakura as sarada’s mom, they have great chemistry as mother and daughter in boruto. i just don’t like how they made sasuke look like a deadbeat
@@azureascendant994 yeah i don't like that either, especially coming from naruto and sasuke. those two should be the ones valuing their family the most considering their past.
I have another question: why does suigetsu work on Orochimaru after everything this man did to him? I thought only women in naruto don't respect themselves. And I also thought hozuki wanted to revive the swordsmen of kirigakure
He a bit biased...just cause you think a story should go the way you want it to doesn't mean it's bad or wrong for not doing so...your opinion isn't the only one that matters and retcons flaws mistakes bad writing occur in every form of media which huch make it relatable cause its written by humans who are flawed like humans are so being so harsh on naruto is really pointless and he seems to only do it for views and clout and cause he was a fan of the series and then got mad at the end so he lives in denial about it...
I kinda understand y boruto was mad when Naruto sent a shadow clone to himawaris 8:07 birthday cuz he could do it to see Sasuke I understand he's Hokage but he could at least attend in person
9:16 Yeah I have no idea where the heck that came from. I was pretty much absent from Naruto fanbase since the anime ended in 2017, after I saw a few glimpses of the Boruto anime and I watched the Naruto Gaiden adaption in Boruto but then just left for 4 years. I came back last year and I see the "Boruto's dad" joke. I still don't get it. 18:00 Ha, Kishimoto was such a fool for saying Sakura would be a terrible person for letting go of her ""love"" for Sasuke.
Yeah, the Boruto dad meme is boring at this point. Or at least find ways to twist it to something fresh. It’s just overused. It was funny the first month, but just end that stuff already.
personally imo what really made naruto start to go downhill in quality, i still do enjoy it and even watched boruto, but naruto used to be much more grounded when it came to it's fighting, we didn't have people casually creating craters or spamming the same taxing attack over and over without any consequences "i'm looking at you Kakashi" We had good ol fashion hand to hand combat with kunai, shuriken and the occasional jutsu that took alot of prep with hand signals to work, Once apon a time Orochimaru and Hiruzen fight was considered the best of the best, it can't get any more crazier then this, this is a hokage level battle right here. Power creeps and insane feat gaps have always been an issue with alot of shonen and i think it really started to show in naruto by part 2/shippuden, you could argue that this started way back in the chunin exams when naruto fought gaara and the amount of damage two genin were creating even back then. And then the war arc happened in shippuden and it turned into a Micheal bay wet dream with the amount of explosions and giant energy blasts surrounding the battlefield that is where the series especially jumped the shark with its scaling of power feats. Don't even get me started on madara in the war arc.
At the time, I was willing to give this a chance. I figured Kishimoto would just tell a story about the New Team 7 (or Boruto and Sarada at least). Aaannnndddd…he chose to open with this. I guess the lesson of “If you expect anything from Kishimoto, he will do the opposite” didn’t set in. Remember your scream at Susanoo Kakashi? That was me in the first chapter of this. Kishimoto should have just moved on from his pairings, but he seems obsessed with making SS worse. Yeah, I do kind of like Sarada while despising her origin. Throughout this I just felt really bad for her. And then the manga makes her dress like a….something not very nice. Have you seen Batman Year One? Watch the scene where Bruce Wayne walks in downtown Gotham and is solicited by a child prostitute. But the current manga Sarada in her place, and she would fit right in. Maybe even better (or worse). I guess if there’s anything to give Boruto credit for, they’re moving away from the sharingan bullshit. I can’t really attest to the quality of the new villains, but it’s something. It was still a bad move to start off with that. I guess Kishimoto was desperate to be done and just did what he knew to do best (or worst) There is a conspiracy that both Sarada and Boruto were meant as SK and NS kids but changed their mothers at the last second. I guess on Sarada’s side, that bothered him and he wanted to troll them, when he would have been better served ignoring them altogether. I still do question why Boruto’s favorite color is pink when he’s Hinata’s son though. Then again, I guess it ultimately comes down to shock value sells and here we are. But yeah, why the hell is this called “The Scarlet Spring?” Was Kishimoto in a similar situation as Peter Griffin and formed a title based around the things he saw?
Okay I agree with alot of what you said , but reading this comment made me Google manga sarada, and oh God, it's bad , like why just why , am surprised people complain about her glasses not those clothes and HEELS!!
Goku spend time with his kids I mean..... he kinda he leaves family at the end of z and he kinda left his family for 7 years willingly. Also wasn't Sasuke eventually investigating Kaguya realm surprisingly he has more reason to neglect Sarada then Naruto who didn't leave the village and can make a million clones to take his place somewhere.
Goku can easily teleport to his family plus goku spent time with his family in the time skip after the buu arc ended and before raditz came and before the cell games started and gt isn’t canon plus gokus kids were adults now one of the reasons goku went to train uub was so he could be able to protect the earth when the time comes but sasuke just left the moment he got a kid he didn’t even bother spending time with his family
Everyone wants to be Goku but no one wants to learn what made the original depictions of him great, I got tired of the terrible father trait after FMA One piece and Hunter.
At least Hoenhein had good reasons to leave his family in FMA Brotherhood. He even said sorry and made peace with his sons. He may have been flawed but he is a much better dad than Goku, Ging and Vinsmoke.
Also Luffy's dad Dragon. MCs tend to have absent an dad, so that they can be independent and carry their own series. It's fine for FMA, one piece and hunter x hunter, it's just a bit awkward for 2nd gen series, some fans expect loving family fluff for the OG MC.
People wonder why the last chapter was hated it satisfied no one....even fans of ships were upset cause we already had them confirmed before the chapter came out it was leaked for weeks so we got nothing out of the chapter cause the chapter doesn't even really confirm ships and doesn't give anyone time with each other so it just feels lame
Still love those vids my man! I do have my own hot take too though and Imma just share it here. So i feel like the whole show has a massive problem and that problem mainly is the government in the show being written as horribly corrupt kind of feudalism wkth child soldiers and a sense of rigid control over Shinobi as well as citizen. And this is where the main issue lies imo. There‘s an attempt at world building but it‘s abandoned quickly while the show is trying to appease the editors and publishers by staying in line. Aka the writer being limited in his artistic expression to not risk anything that could drive profit away or make the show not as marketable to the audience they wanted to market to. But that‘s obviously not the main issue. The main issue of Naruto is that it‘s childishly ignorant towards how the world and how politics work as well as a total ignorance and blatant misrepresentation of women. Mainly this is seen as any female character being useless cause the author neglects them only seeing use in them as a tool for male characters lusting after em. All of them are a carbon copy with a different design slapped on and shows how incapable and insulting kishi sees and portrays women in his work. But not just that. The other issue is a total immature lack of understanding how attraction and romance works wich is a theme in naruto from the start, and a lack of planning ending in plot holes that are miles deep and total derailment of characters, plots, themes and story telling. Naruto starts as a compelling mystery thing about a strang avatar esque fantasy world riddled with corruption and the characters slowly wake up to this as kids when sh*t hits the fan in the land of waves arc. But soon this kind of mature storytelling becomes less and less prominent as it‘s replaced by medeocre shounen writing, a obsession with sasuke and naruto while all other characters are neglected and a total derailment of morality themes and messed up morals. We start with a story of a kid wanting to be ninja president to be loved cause he‘s abused as a kid and struggles with his identity and place in the ninja world, and we end with a overpowered messiah keeping up the status quo that literally caused all this misery and destruction that made this whole conflict happen in the first place. So we went from a revolutionary anti evil gov story to a conformist pro evil gov story that feels totally delusional and idiotic to me. Let‘s face it. If we replace konoha with jews, and Danzo with hi*ler, how would you see itachi as the supposedly redeemed poor baby who betrayed his kind for world peace? And how would you view sasuke‘s want to destroy the villiage after learning that? Would you still be on the side of konoha? Well, if you would that‘d mean something pretty damn sinister wouldn‘t it? But Naruto does this. It essenrially sais: brainwash your minority friend into believing that your people‘s genocide wasn‘t so bad, allow your family‘s murderers to lock you up and treat you like that bad guy, and have it all magically be fixed like a fever dream creating something as ridiculously unreal as the infinite tsukuyomi dreams by fixing what is essentially fascism not by overthrowing it wich according to reality was the only thing that worked because ppl literally couldn‘t vote just like konoha ppl couldn‘t, and just magically fixing it instead by making the little fascist apologist who loves friendship and acts like a 10 year old ninja president and thinking that him, you know the big dumb dumb who doesn‘t know anything can uphold peace in a system that is built within fascism and has only ever been that. Naruto would have to have by definition have to changed the system drastically for this to even work and he clearly doesn‘t do it cause even the show sells the hokage position like a desk worker job while danzo, a shadow leader actually did seem to have some power as well as the barely mentioned feudal lords. It almost seems like hokage are just a ruse chosen from a set of manifactured hero arcetypes by chosing em based on ninja status and strength just to keep ppl brainwashed about how everything is ok while they literally have kids fighting to their death and ppl living under essentially fascist rules invading other places and labelling any rebel as an enemy of the state and brainwashing the remaining villiage soldiers about how the fascist are actually the good guys and those pesky rebels are the big bad who they have to fight. Like it‘s just su h a joke if you think about it more than 2 seconds. Even steven universe was more nuanced and that was a kid‘s show with a rushed ending and unexplored worldbuilding. Not to mention avatar‘s fantastic world building and plot. Naruto compared to this is just a show that clearly bit off more than it could chew by establishing a deeply corrupt world and desperately wanting to end it with the unreal pipedream of „world peace“ without understanding a single thing about how something like that could even barely be worked towards and how insanely complex such a issue would be when you try to solve it. I mean it really is just biting off more than you can chew. You could have easily made the thing less about saving the world and more about just saving the friends or winning a war. Maybe even losing it and trying to survive that. You know, stuff other media does that knows how hard it‘d be to fix a world spread overly corrupt system and for that reason decides to not fix everything as a goal but rather talk about the characters who have to live in that and play with them trying to just make the world a bit better. There‘s a reason shows like Naruto feel so childish for ppl who care about politics and media with deep political world building, and it‘s an understanding that humans are fundamentally complex and flawed. And does even seem to get that with pain and all that. But at the same time it‘s portrayal of saving the world is so juvenile that it feels insultingly bad. It started off so good but plumbeted because the writer sacrificed everything that was good about it for childish bandaid solutions to problems as massive as the world itself. It could have been great but it wasn‘t. And the reason for that is that a writer was both backed into a corner due to people driven by only profit dictating what is and isn‘t allowed, as well as someone trying desperately to tell a story with a utopian ending that wouldn‘t work because it was too drastic and too complex for the guy to genuinely be realistic. And i‘d argue most other issues are attached to this same problem root. Bad fem characters? Juvenile thinking about how women are mysterious weird aliens you don‘t understand, politics? Dumbed down misunderstanding about anything that‘s political, messed up childish thinkinf about friendship and love that turn out to in practice usually be deemed as abusive or even illegal irl, juvenial understanding of power and strength. Main chara‘s are literally gods cause main baddie is too strong and literally god and so alien has to snuff him and then gods have to destroy her through a loophole cause he ran out of ideas about his idiotic power scaling. And lastly terrible juvenile morals that literally end up sounding just like leaf propaganda. Aka always chase after your comrades even if they abuse you cause u have to save them or ur a bad friend, never change who you love or break up cause you‘re evil if you do, never rebel even if the gov kills your kind cause they did it for reasons that can only ever be reasonable even if they don‘t feel like that to you and democracy is bad and instead you should just strive to become a slave child soldier and serve ur country only to be ruined later with massive mental damage and not being able to have a stable relationship or life. And lastly lastly, never question the government. And if you do only do it passively by saying: „not being bad is good! And I‘m gonna be good! But not too much so the villiage don‘t actually get mad. Uwu“. And that‘s all i have. Hope u didn‘t mind the length. Just had to get this off somewhere. And if u read it till this point thx. Hope u enjoyed the read!
This was extremely well written. I have the same issues when discussing Naruto with others on Quora. The fanbase is knee deep in denial, childish and sensitive to critique on this awful series. They refuse to think about what they're watching and they enable all sorts of crap to pass w/o any sort of discretion or discernment. Avatar is a masterpiece compared to this series. FMA is golden compared to Naruto. The fanfiction for Naruto is so much better then Canon.
I read this chapter and saw Sasuke walk away while smiling with the bento made by Sakura. Three assumptions. 1) He didn't want to be affectionate with her in front of Sarada (doesn't make sense to me since he could do the same thing he did to her last time). 2) He wanted to tease her (not possible since he wouldn't know teasing even if his life depended on it). 3) He legit just smiled because he got to spend time with them (probably because of Sarada). Although, given all this... it doesn't make sense on Sasuke's character and Sakura looks defeated as hell. On the other hand, we know who Naruto thinks about when receiving the bento from Boruto😎 In the end, this is the only franchise which made me regret ever watching it.
The fact that Number one and number two are actually both correct LOL 😂 fun fact in Japanese culture it’s not appropriate to kiss ur partner in front of ur child and sasuke is a man of tradition!!!! And Kishimoto straight up says sasuke enjoys teasing sakura!!!! LOLLL oh and what else would Naruto be thinking of besides “why didn’t my hyuga maid not get me ichiraku”
@@Ajsobrainsalot Asian culture part is correct. Problem is, given how the pairings have been established, it's essentially laughable to just look at them. Kishimoto has also said that SS is like a drug addiction... so, yeah. As for the bento scene with Naruto, it's surprising that this was made by Hinata and delivered by Boruto yet Naruto can't spare a second to remember her. LOL!!! Man, this franchise was so much fun and it's devolved into a badly written shoujo manga with power scaling elements🤣
@@Ajsobrainsalot He actually said this after the manga ended whilst also saying that he pitied Hinata... therefore, you got the redux version as a sequel. Lessons learned: 1) Avoid single ships unless absolutely confirmed. 2) Avoid long franchises until they end. 3) Avoid Shounens with major dependence on romance.
@@RetrospectGreg tbh hinata's personality doesn't match his idk probably they are I personally feel he would have been happier with sakura :/ no hate to hinata tho And why is sasuhina even a thing
Plus, i dont know why Hinata suddenly turned into a strict mom. She was a shy girl so it kinda doesnt make sense that she became strict. Its like Kishimoto took Sakura's personality and put it in Hinata.
Apparently the reason why sarada wears glasses is because why sasuke bit Karin, karin having heal bite. Her DNA mixed with sasuke and sakura's? And that's why sarada wears glasses.
@@RetrospectGreg yea. Explained by the great kishimoto himself. And if sarada was sakura's true daughter they didn't she just sit her down and talk about sasuke leaving out he was a criminal. Oh wait then this gaden novel won't exist
0:49 ok I am now going to start thanking you now for pointing out that zutara is toxic as fuck thank you good sir for pointing out the toxic bullshit that is zutara but as for sasusaku while I do agree that in the original and shippuden the couple does suck but the thing is we also need to aknoledge that Sakura is to blame as well for the toxic moments that these two had in shippuden like the time she tried to kill sasuke and the many times how she took no for an answer
RetrospectGreg ha that’s nothing compare to the bullshit that the anime did with that movie arc someone they managed to make it worse then it already was
RetrospectGreg well he’s honestly not that bad sure he works a lot but when he doesn’t he actually tries to spend time with his kids but because of boruto being and insufrible tsundere he doesn’t get to do much except for himawari
Not to mention the breeding propaganda: the novel put the idea of adoption in such a negative light that it seemed like the worst sin ever. The way they advocated for BiOlOgIcAl kId as the only socially accepted way of having a kid made me puke🤮🤮🤮 from a SasuSaku fan, I've became their number one anti-fan as a couple.
I personally love Boruto as a character he is a genuinely relatable character he has similar upbringing to most kids now. I never really hated Boruto for how he treated Naruto since Naruto was an absent father to Boruto. You would think that Naruto would be interested in raising his son but now he abandons him for the village and this is the same Naruto who grew up as an orphan. sorry, Boruto was justified in how he treated naruto you see in the beginning he didn't know what his father went through so his knowledge was limited, but his father told him how he grew up and found a new middle ground and love for his father and position. Bottom line, Boruto and the new team 7 are my favorite characters. I love relationships they share its o wholesome.
@@lilsavage337 I don't ship sakura with anyone because she should of died in part 1 but I will say she always loved sasuke and so I don't mind the ship...it's just awkward is all
I always want to see Naruto adult for anime based on Kishimoto original design likes in Chapter 700-710 Naruto Manga, especially his face and Hairstyle.. in Anime they only use the outfit colour but the design of Naruto not cool likes original version. I'm glad that i still can see Kishimoto design in this Manga and the day Naruto became hokage. I want to see more Kishimoto art of Naruto adult.
I was so mad when this sh*tshow was released because, Kishimoto, seriously??? He saw some people trolling for a pair of glasses and in his attempt to validate SS as a couple he ended up trashing it and make them look even worst. I AM an SS shipper and I think what he did in Ch. 700 was fine, like Sasuke was was in a mission but nothing said he was a straight up an absent father, the comes this and we get so many iconic moments like, We now know Sasuke was barely in his own daughters life, Sakura knows nothing about Sasuke, Sakura doesn't even have ONE good photo of Sasuke and the best she could do was to use a photo of Terrorist Sasuke and paste heeself by his side, Sarada's knows nothing about her heritage and is not like Sasuke cares either even though he was proud of his clan all through the story, and the list goes on.
in the boruto movie sasuke really redeemed himself for me with how he could understand boruto...hes like your like me with a family...you have people who care about you a sibling who adores the ground you walk on and a caring mother who worries and a dad who wants to be proud of you.....from day 1..naruto did not..so its hard for him to connect with you on a emotional level...but if you ask about his past he can spend more time and you can learn about each other..its actually really good stroytelling...i loved sasuke in that moment...and he calls boruto a loser cause he hates to lose
19:28 just to warn you ichiruki was never canon ichigo was never in love with Rukia and rukia was never in love with ichigo also rukia was like a thousand years old while ichigo was 15 freaking 15 when they first met so no ichiruki was never a thing and it’s just shippers being delusional like zutara shippers no offense to anyone
RetrospectGreg oh that’s good you’d be surprised at how horrifying many people actually believe that and harrased the author over it even with the anime coming back and knowing how it ends they still expect it to be a thing
RetrospectGreg I honestly don’t care either to be honest but I’m so sick and tired of toxic ichiruki shippers ruining the fun and acting like hipocrites and as for the canon pairings we’ll I can 100 percent tell you that they are nothing like sasusaku
RetrospectGreg well in the anime naruto talks about how it’s not fair to judge mitsuki based on his parent because he relates to him due to naruto himself being outcasted
Naruto Gaiden was a piece of shit. Since it's a cookie ccutter with a half ass backstory. And just to push the new generation on us. Who are rehashing themes from the original series that we already saw.
Did kishimoto ate something after war arc😂😂 whats he been doing man.. Garbage movie the last, boruto! Killing Sasuke's character instead of redeeming him. I mean we want team 7 newest photo man. Not some third generation BS.
I mean their relationships arent that great but idk why you act surprised when it happend like nigga….. shit has been spoiled in the first ep also sauske spent a long ass time in prison blind folded and with his hands tied for like a long ass time so he did atone for his crimes and still is like that his arm is still missing even though it can easily be replaced its his choice to atone not only that but thats not orochimarus kid at least technically and the reason naruto is so cold to boruto is because it is literally there relationship like do you genuinely have no idea about good writing and pls understand the fact that this is not a final it’s a continuation so your complaints that the charactars are still flawed is completely invalid because what your asking for is no conflict in boruto
@@RetrospectGreg why don't you understand naruto wasn't genjutsu into loving hinata...first he always liked her second he realized someone loved him all along which is a big revelation and deal for him to fall for her third she wasn't ready until the movie to be with him as a real partner ...he was naive to her feelings and into sakura...whose never going to accept him....he needs to grow past her....most people don't date let alone marry their first crush anyways especially if they like someone else and you most likely will meet someone after age 18 that's a stranger that you marry...cause you mature
@razkable Oh, you are full of double standards there in favor of Hinata. I mean you talk about how Naruto had to mature before falling in love with Hinata. Who mind you, she never went through any character development at all. She then needed a movie to emotionally dump down and place the boy she loved under a genjutsu for him to even look at shy little miss Hinata. Which by the way in both said movie and Boruto truly can't say much to her Naruto-kun. I mean Hinata is an enabling doormat to her workaholic husband, and can't step up to make him understand that his family need him around more. I mean heck she grew up being some what neglected by her own father at least. Yet Hinata is incapable seeing how it affect her son and perhaps daughter to do anyway but sit on the sidelines. Anyway please take off your Hinata rosy glasses and look at both her character and the relationship she is in with some grown up eyes.
Sakura was OBSESSED with Sasuke, but had the AUDACITY to say she didn't think he wore glasses!? That alone ruined any possibility of taking this seriously
To be fair she wouldn't know she barley spent time with sasuke
Because sasuke stays away from him. Sakura is so obsessed willing to stay in a loveless marriage, they don't even have a wedding photo where she just taped herself over Karin. Sarada doesn't even know about her own father
The worst part is that they could have just written that differently but they didnt and made something so toxic
Sasuke had a messenger hawk and his own visual prowess to help his teleport. If he could keep in touch with naruto why not his family? And please bring the "sasuke kun wanted to protect his family that's why he did not interact with his family" bullshit. The dude doesnt even need to knock at the door of his own house. He can just teleport himself into the house itself.
he is in another dimension how can he send hawk from there ?
HE KEPT IN TOUCH IN TELEPORTED TO SAKURA TOO 🤷STOP BELIEVING THAT NARUSASU 🗑️ MADE UP FAN FIC BS WAS NEVER EVER MF REAL FUCK BOY FACE THE TRUTH 👊
When did Sasuke did that??
Lol we all know the truth, he just doesn’t give a rat’s ass about them and probably views them both as a means to an end.
Sakura: incubator
Sarada: Uchiha clan revival tool
He only gives a sh*t about Naruto, that’s always been consistent and a constant.
@John Doe read sasuke retsuden.
“Sakura and Sasuke’s relationship makes no sense.” SAY IT AGAIN FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK!
Even their own daughter thinks so.
Right? She doesn’t believe it. We don’t believe it. Hell, Sasuke doesn’t believe it. He tried to kill Sarada and then ignored her. She should really have a “Same trauma” talk with her mom
Andre Okosi yeah, I don’t know why Kishi thought having Sasuke unknowingly try to kill his own daughter was a good idea
Yeah. That made no sense at all. Thing is, he probably would kill her if family history is any indicator
Andre Okosi I’ve always held the belief Sasuke should’ve been with no one
I think sasuke wanted to be alone. He told Sakura that he will come back but he didn’t. She got tired of waiting so she chased after him again🤦♀️ She found him, she got pregnant, he told her to come back to the leaf but she did not listen. She gave birth and again he left her for 12 years 🤦♀️🤦♀️ He did not write a letter to her and to his daughter. I think Sakura was one of this girls who do not know what to do so they get pregnant because they think that their lover will stay. This relationship is not right. I feel sorry for Sakura and i am mad that she was written so badly.
I’m sorry but everything you said is completely off by a mile Sasuke told Sakura that he would return which he did in sasuke shinden novel “he stated that he returned to the village” also sasuke never told her to go back to the leaf idk where you get that from 🗿 they traveled together an Sakura just got pregnant on that journey. sasuke had a mission to attend to he wasn’t gone for 12 years. How would Sakura not know what to do when she’s a medical during pregnancy 😂💀 an she didn’t get pregnant for there love to stay 🤦♂️
Gay or not, Naruto and Sasuke are the happiest around each other. Sakura probably thought she could guilt-trip Sasuke into marrying her, like Hinata did Naruto. I think Sakura deserves her unhappy marriage.
@@lilsavage337 Novels are not canon, gaiden is and from gaiden we know that she chased after him. If you would read with understanding you would know that Sasuke came back to the village for a hokage meeting about Kaguya and then he got this mission. Before he just left her after she gave birth for no one knows what mission.. and seeing that Naruto during Kaguya meeting was hokage, it means Sarada was 7 years old just like Boruto and Sasuke never borhered to visit his child and Sakura never bothered to bring Sarada to meet her father... nice family
@@lucyred6523 the novels are canon. I already know he came back to talking about more threats like kaguya that was the mission he was giving even Sakura was there when he took it so all that doesn’t even matter anymore
@@lilsavage337 They are not, proof: In literature, the term "canon" is used to distinguish between the original works of a writer who created certain characters and/or settings, and the later works of other writers who took up the same characters or setting. For example, the canon of Sherlock Holmes consists of the 56 short stories and four novels written by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle that feature the detective Sherlock Holmes.[11] The subsequent works by other authors who also used the character Sherlock Holmes are considered "non-canonical".
Chocho is an awful friend... she's the kind that makes EVERYTHING about her. "My dad isn't my real dad because I am cool and my dad is fat" meanwhile Sarada is literally having a crisis because she has traits her parents dont and has found a picture of Karin, Sasukes old team mate. Not to mention, she has never met her dad. Not to mention, ChoCho clearly knows Akemichi technqiues... which is a kekkai Genki so what the fuck is her problem. Shes also the only tanned kid in the village.
When the whole "Sarada is Karins daughter" was first teased I hoped whole heartedly that it was true. It would explain why everyone was so doggy about Sarada's birth.
Imagine if Karin died in childbirth or someother way shortly after Sarada was born and Sasuke just dumped her in Konoha cause "He needs to attone". Maybe Naruto was gonna raise her first but then Sakura volunteered and pretended to be Sasuke's wife/Sarada's biological mom so that she could have a normal childhood(at this point she has 0 feelings towards Sasuke and is even pissed at him cause how he abandoned Sarada). Then this whole manga would be about Sarada accepting his father is a deadbeat and embracing Sakura as her mom even tho they aren't related by blood cause "bonds are more important than blood". She could even change her name to be Sarada Haruno and Sasuke could just go on being a deadbeat. Everybody wins
How would it be here if he killed her in the bridge, there's literally no way she could of had his baby 😂
@@GrimKiLLzGaming It? You mean Sasuke would have killed Sakura in the bridge?
I actually like this
to add on to this, sasuke and saradas relationship could be built from scratch and not just be all fine after his miserable marriage gets confirmed to be real. i just wish we could’ve actually gotten sasuke be a father (since they gave him a daughter), i get that itd be hard but considering the love for his family is his the reason he pursued his vengeance so hard it would make sense to make him a very loving father, even if he started lat (one does not recover from trauma in a heartbeat. it wouldnt be unreasonable to make him have to work through being a good dad!)
Fun fact About the Scarlet Spring title in Japanese when you break down the Kanji letters that got translated to Scarlet Spring you get 3 words Scarlet, Flower & Moon which is a direct reference to the Infinite Tsukuyomi.
Sarada: do you think it's ok to forgot the face of your daughter?
Sasuke: of course
SS fanboy: beautiful
"They love each other so much"
*Sasuke didnt recognized his daugther and tried to kill her*
“awww thats so sweet”
Sasuke: *Tries to kill Sakura many times, left her to raise their daughter and pay mortgages alone for 12 years, has the Rinnegan and didn't even bother to send her a letter, but conveniently manages to meet Naruto*
SasuSaku shippers: This is beautiful, I've stared at this for 5 hours now
So basically Sasuke was like: got a kid check, now onto next thing on my bucket list. What other things do human beings want? Travelling? Ah yes, travelling! I'm going to ask my boyfriend for a long-term mission outside of Konoha!
Also poor Sakura. Sweetie, just because you had a child with lizard person doesn't mean you have to be constantly affection starved. I'm pretty sure you could find a man or woman who would treat you like a human being instead of an incubator.
Sarada's parentage drama is so convoluted and pointless... I just have no words.
So Suigetsu Used the wrong dna which was Sakura's and thought he was using Karin's. So it turns out Sakura is the real mother. "Haha gotcha" -KM
That's generally how he writes. He thinks "Gotcha!" is good storytelling.
And Sarada's birth is treated as a secret while she founds evidences that her mom barely knows her dad
Hahaha gotcha
@@weariedpluto24 exactly, naruto and sakura know each other like back of their hands
Why do all the kids look like they went through a random character generator? LMFAOOOOOO
I'd say one of the biggest problems with this Gaiden is that it makes it always the possibility that Sarada is Kairn's child and not Sakura's, since I think in Japanese culture the mother keeps the umbilical cord. Now I would prefer SasuKarin over SasuSaku any day, but Kishimoto screwed any chance of that happening with this mess of an ending, which somehow gets even more messier with pointless drama like this making us ask if Sakura and Sasuke really are in love or even had a kid.
He is not going to win back fans who like the idea of Karin together with Sasuke back by doing stuff like this as he has already made it clear in the ending that those two wouldn't be a thing. In fact I'd say it would even more than likely make any self respecting Sasusaku fan (if there are any at this point) mad that he is screwing them over by even the slightest possibility that those two aren't really together and I doubt he can afford to loss more of the fandom than he already has.
The only thing I enjoyed in this Gaiden is that Sakura gets to fight Shin, but that was done much better in the anime adaption where they even let her be the one to beat him in the end. Which surprised me given how Studio Pierrot has treated her character in the past.
Also I would enjoy seeing when you thought Bleach went downhill. Though truth be told given the state of Naruto I'd rather check out a bleach spin off than Boruto.
BlueStarSaber StarWarsFan I don’t even think Shin gets defeated in the manga
@@RetrospectGreg Yeah your right he just gets betrayed by his clones, very anti climatic really.
Wait so how did Sakura not realize she wasn't pregnant meaning sarada obv inst hers. So I'm confuse is Sakura really the mother or karin
@@hungry_khid1007 sakura is her real mother, this whole gaiden was basically to prove that. sakura had sarada while she was traveling with sasuke, hence why she had sarada in one of orochimaru’s hideout with the help of karin delivering sarada. tbh i don’t like the whole family drama, i would’ve preferred sasuke just coming back from his trip and enjoying a nice dinner with his family. i think it was unecessary troll drama for no reason but it is what it is.
SARADA IS SAKURA'S DAUGHTER🤷 SHE HAD HER IN ONE OF OROCHIMORO'S CAVE BECAUSE SHE COULD NOT ON HER TRAVELS WITH SASUKE GET BACK TO KONOHA ON TIME TO BIRTH HER THERE 🤷AND KARIN HELPED WITH THE DELIVERY WATCH THE BORUTO SERIES AND SEE KARIN OUT OF HER OWN MOUTH CONFIRM THE UMBILICAL CORD WAS SAKURA'S🤷 AND SHE KEPT IT AS A SOUVENIR AND SHE BLOOD TESTED IT AND IT WAS SAKURA'S 🤷KARIN PROVED IT TO EVERYONE THAT DOUBTED AND THIS IS OLD🤷
Excellent work Greg, I don't know why Kishimoto didn't just end the series right as Naruto became Hokage.
Since your doing character videos next, I'd like to share a comment I made on a video from a guy who's not a fan of female characters. So here we go.
Sakura, Ino, Hinata are all driven by love and that's it, that's their character.
Their only goal in life is to try and get the boy of their dreams, and there's
nothing wrong with that but you got to give your
characters something more than just being a love interest for another character.
Sakura is a very interesting character; she had the
most development of all the other females starting as a weak and desperate
fangirl for Sasuke to becoming a student of the legendary sannin tsunade, that’s
pretty good. As time pasted she grew she stops seeing Naruto as just the
village idiot and saw him as her friend and teammate, and yes she still hits
him a lot but that’s just a stupid gag from the studio that got stale pretty
quickly.
Unfortunately for her Kishimoto decided to go backwards
in her development when Sasuke got into the picture; reverting all that lovely
character development for an unhealthy obsession with a man trying to kill her
and her friends, why Kishimoto did this I don’t know.
Her love was not genuine; it was lackluster and
shallow, and that’s kind of sad. It’s would have been a nice moment when Sasuke
is rambling about killing everyone and Sakura walks ups to him and slaps him in
the face, like when Rickert slapped Griffith after he found out about the eclipse. Then she moves on from him and
finds someone who genuinely loves her, like Naruto or Rock Lee who laid down
their lives to protect her.
Ino is the same deal as Sakura, only she is her rival
like Sasuke is to Naruto. Ino could have had a better character then just Sakura
2.0, she could started out that way and then (like Sakura from my previous
statement) move on from Sasuke.
Hinata is very similar to both Sakura and Ino but there
a twist; she likes naruto and she’s shy. I don’t understand why people like Hinata
so much and then throw sakura and the other girls down an elevator shaft. Her dialogue
is mostly “Naruto kun!” and she does not interact with Naruto much, yes she
expressed her love to Naruto when she faced pain but for some reason they never
had a moment to be together and talk like actual people after the that. The studio
who worked on Naruto spent so much time to fetishize her they couldn’t care to
give her a filler episode where her and Naruto go on a mission and talk to one
another, like real people. Hinate should have made a name for herself and prove to Neji that she can be strong, that she can be brave. But alas such dream are a far-cry now.
Tenten, Temari, and Anko are interesting cases to
say the least, they are not motivated by love and seem to actually have goals,
wants and a personality that isn’t a stereotype; so what’s the problem? They
have minimal impact on the story, no screen time to explore their individual characters and
then thrown away like a used condom on the streets of Los-Vegas.
Ten-Ten is a weapons master, but we never see her fight except for the one against temari and that wasn't even shown on screen in the manga and all others were filler
. She was never once given the light of day like neji or lee (but even they didn't do much after part 1) to her own person instead of a rain drop in a bucket full of holes.
Ten-Ten should have fought by switching weapons to adapt to the situation and opponents, basically she should be like link for the legend of Zelda, Using a the tools and weapons at his disposal to surpass and obstacle.
Temari is the same deal, but a least got some credibility, but not much. She only known for being gaara's sister and for her fight with ten-ten, oh and her relationship with shukimaru.
All temari's done was act snobby towards the leaf ninja and becoming a brood mare for shikimaru (but I have to admit they do seem to be the only couple that would work in real life.)
Anko had the most potential squandered, being a student of orochimaru and any time his name was mentioned she was there in a split. So could you guess what kishimoto do with her?
ABSOLUTLY F**KING NOTHING, THAT'S WHAT!!!
She literally became nothing more then a battery for kabuto and a parasitic host to bring orochimaru back.
It’s sad too, I would very fascinated by these three when I was a kid back in the day (I still do too), such wasted potential. I’m sorry my lovelies, maybe one day a better writer can give you the justice you deserve.
To add some more salt of the wound, kishimoto decided to make all of the girls married and become housewives, Yeah.
Now there's nothing wrong with being a housewife, but why do all of them need to be (of course ten-ten is single and anko is overweight now, why does he do this?) they could have had other jobs to help their families, or become teachers. Nope, housewives, "To the kitchen with you women!"
Also regarding shipping, it is a infectious disease that plagues anime and all other forms of media alike. Horny Teens and lonely adults with too much time on their hand spend years belittling others in their "ship wars" that spill over into the story and (unfortunately) real life.
I assume you heard of the naru-hina/naru-saku divide (god that shit is dumb) where people made tumblur blogs hating Hinate, A fictional character, just because she ended up with naruto. Along with sending death threats to Kishimoto, and some burning their entire collection of naruto manga.
Like bleach and one piece, catering to shippers, NEVER ONCE!
Kishimoto is a great artist no doubt about it, but his
writing skills are questionable at best, horrible at worst. Oh and If you use
the “Kishimoto said he can write female characters right.” Argument Then Kishimoto
doesn’t understand character writing at all. Writing a female character is no different
then writing a male character, their genders should not define who they are.
Well that was a long rant. Oh and by the way, if you
were so kind as to read this entire post I thank you for your time reading . Peace Greg and kind reader
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Cameron thanks.... yeah the shipping war got bad. Characters video well I don’t know if I’ll even do Tenten because she really doesn’t have a character.
@@RetrospectGreg A sad truth indeed.
@@thewildhuntsman8255
The best rant I have read in a while. And correct too.
I would only add how underpowered they make women characters in Naruto. I mean combat wise. Strongest female character is literally Orochimaru.
@@RetrospectGreg You could always talk about how the Rock Lee parody manga gave her more character than the manga ever did.
Agree man anko is such a cool character she had so much potential. I wish she had a more important role.
So much wasted potential.
Also this is where I realized kishimoto was a troll with that you are the mother stuff kishimoto was pulling.
I think people pointed this out to him and he went "ooooh... guess I better explain this."
@@RetrospectGreg I love how sakura is a housewife in the last chapter not shown being a nurse smdh and how they just don't bother to draw hinata and naruto as a couple once to keep it kinda open ended if there was no boruto content like based on that last chapter naruto could of had a kid with anyone so could hinata cause their kids look like them and they are never all 4 together in a panel...you can kinda still think they didn't get together...kishi is such a troll
@@razkable I disagree, Boruto and Naruto are like Lee and his son, but then there is Himawari, who is the actual kid that got a copy paste from both parents and you just know who the parents are.
But funnily enough they showed Boruto's sketches first, some NaruSakus got their hopes up UNTIL they released Himawari's.
In my personal opinion, Sasuke and Karin's relationship made more sense than Sasuke and Sakura. Karin actually had a reason for liking Sasuke that we actually knew and when she knew Sasuke "liked" Sakura she let him have her because she wanted him to be happy. His misbehavior with her is quite similar to his misbehavior with Sakura, but on the upper side we can actually understand Karin's attachment to him. Plus, there was that one filler episode where we got to see Karin's Tsukiyomi and her backstory, which IMO makes an even stronger argument for Karin (and there was also those chapters where Naruto and Sasuke were dying during the war arc).
The last chapter of the Gaiden in my opinion made it even worse for Sasuke and Sakura, as that line of their bond being Sarada reminds me of what divorced or would be divorced parents tell their kids (plus, look at Sakura's face). Sakura looks unstable and they have little chemistry.
I believe the Gaiden could have been better if it had been something like Sarada actually was Sasuke and Karin's but Karin died or something and Sasuke got together with Sakura afterwards and Sakura would raise Sarada (which could go with strong bonds that don't rely on blood relationships). Sasuke wouldn't be as close to Sakura as he was to Karin, and it could be a result of her death, but her proximity with Sarada would "keep them together".
It's not THAT better but I think it would actually have been better than what we got (as the Gaiden IMO felt more like a filler than anything as aside from meeting Sasuke we didn't get anywhere).
Well honestly as I’ve said. Preferably, Sasuke should’ve been with no one
@@RetrospectGreg I agree. But if he HAD to end up with someone, I believe it would have been better to have him with either Karin or Naruto himself.
@@sofialozano4031 I would’ve loved a SasuNaru ending
I would’ve actually had sasuke end up with hinata.
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"A novel says that Sakura and Sasuke are constantly sending each other letters"
Then why he didn't know how Sarada looked like? Why Sakura questioned herself if he wore glasses or not, why keep said letters from their daughter? What? Does said "constant letters" contain secret political things? Or 18+ content? Lol, even if they come up with that (ha! what a joke), wow, good parenting, they rather be horny than take care of their daughter
They truly deserve each other, at least this way they only hurt themselves and their daughter.
I think Sarada should find out the things her dad did during the Kage Summit
The letters contain secrets about sasukes mission? And why are you making head canons that seem to make you angry? lol
@@RetrospectGreg She did lol. But it happened off screen.
@@ashunifallstevity8323 wait what?
@@RetrospectGreg I'll try to be as vague as possible. There was a timeskip. In Chapter One of the Timeskip, Teenager Sarada says this to two other characters: "Lord Seventh once brought back my dad, who'd gone rogue and committed great crimes. He became Hokage while still a Genin." So yes, she probably knows all about that.
I think a good twist back in shippuden would have been if sakura had turned evil. Take her obsession with sasuke further, give her something to do. Suddenly you've got a healer that can punch people into the ground.
Yes, she would be a really good person then. She didn't let go of her obsession with Sasuke. Right?
Tsunade boot-leg
Sounds like a cool premise. Could be like the Harley Quinn thing where he abuses her into insanity and she becomes a sort of henchmen and ppl try to save her but maybe involve ino in that would be cute if she ended up being the one to end up saving her and it‘d also be wholesome.
Another one I‘d personally have liked would be her own arc about a secret technique she had locked away till shippuden that she will unlock during a arc that focuses on her. I always liked the idea od sakura struggling with parental abuse as a contrast to Sasuke and Naruto‘s trauma. Would also make her anger issues and her fixation on someone who doesn‘t care for her and even harms her seem more explainable. Like, you have these 2 orphans thinking hsving parents is the best thing ever and then u have sakura. A selfish, stuck up whiny and aggro girl superfically obsessed with sasuke but suddenly the rug is pulled and the ungreatfulness towards her parents is her resenting her mother for being her biggest bully and a threat to her, her voilent outburst is her learning violence is the answer from her mother and her obsession with sasuke is hinking his distance and verbal abuse while she begs for any kind of love is normal cause she lived that with her mom. Now throw a mental illness in as well triggered by never reaching Sasuke or Naruto‘s level plus maybe self hatred issues leading to self harm, recklessness and even su*cide perhaps amd you have a bomb of an arc about her and why she is so messed up as well as a wholesome part of it where Kakashi and Naruto try and just be there for her and Naruto acknowledges her pain with her parents and also learns that not all parents are a blessing. It could just be a really nice arc and the sasuke obsession stopping would also be great. Maybe she could fall for Naruto in the end seeing how sasuke is abusing everyone for selfish reasons and wanting to protect naruto because he‘s been there for her listening and nobody did before. It‘d be a nice healthy dynamic, the war themes wouldn‘t feel off since sakura has no kind of struggle with her past like nearly all characters have to get depth and also this could help a lot in making sakura change from a dysfunctional mess and kind of a stalker who abuses her friends to someone who is trying actively to be a better person and ending up maybe even saving Naruto from sasuke in the last fight. And this may sound a bit too much but think about it. Team 7 includes Sakura. And our issue with her is that she‘s neglected hugely from the narrative. Now if we build her up like the rest of the main cast as more than just a wife to win for the main characters, then we have to use her somewhere in the final fight. And one way to both wow the audience as well as including her would be her saving naruto last minute and defending him. Hell, maybe even killing her in the process making Naruto hugely regret giving him so much attention although sakura did actually care for him only to end up dying because he didn‘t let go of sasuke. What anslap in the face and lesson would that be about love and friendship. Well, it certainly would be controversial and tragic, but at the same time ppl usually praise anime or art the most that actually subverts for the sake of an actual healtfelt message. And what would be a better message than slapping naruto in the face with: „if you keep thinking you can save anyone and chose to hyperfocus on the villian who hurt and murdered plenty of your friends, someone who actjally loves you may end up dying and it‘s your own fault in a way because you chose to ignore themfor the sake of someone who doesn‘t love you back. Just like sakura would be doomed with trying to get with sasuke and risking naruto‘s life for that, so would the table have turned and we‘d realize that in a way Naruto and Sakura were the same. But only one of them learned their lesson, and in the end it was sakura who had to pay the price of misdirected love because naruto chose to make the same mistake sakura made in the past. It‘d come full circle and would also show us as the audience the realism of friendships or love where you have to beg the other party for attention or have to constantly play therapist for them is a toxic relationship that can ruin your life. And sure it aim‘t no regular ending, but usually all media that impacts us deeply for years have one thing in common. And that usually is uncomventional subversive endings.
Hell no, her obsession with Sasuke, is what we hated about her, she ruined her friendship with Ino because of Sasuke, if she had turned evil because of him we would hate her even more lol
If she had balls to throw away morality, she could become second Kabuto, but even deadlier. She's supposed to be genius in chakra control and smart with theory. Like imagine her doing same medical tricks like Kabuto, but add to it physical stench, Sasori's poison and Orochimarus secret knowledge. She could become killing machine.
P.S. she was actually dangerously close to being evil, so I could see it happening.
1. When she wanted to kill Sasuke he gave her choice to join him by killing Karin.
2. When Sasuke desidet to leave Konoha, I think Sakura had a chanse to say "Let me go with you". We saw that she is insecure about her weakness, and perhaps she could saw it as opportunity to both be with Sasuke and become stronger.
They could have fixed the whole story by adding that Sasuke has been gone for ten years and hasn’t bothered to reach out to anyone as he moves to different dimensions. His perception of time gets muddled, so he thinks a few months of being on a mission is several years away from his friends and family. But I guess Kishi wanted us to get on the Sauske is a lousy father train.
my god all these years and I actually never thought of this. this would have been perfect honestly - any other explanation would have just felt like a stupid excuse to stay away. you should have co written with kishi :/
That...... actually would have worked! I guess the side effect would be that we'd have a Sasuke in his early 20's while the rest of his generation were in their 30's but still...
OMG, THANK YOU!!!. I am so glad I am not the only one to feel this way about this shitty story of pairing drama and family affairs.
By the way, do you find it disturbing that Karin has the cord since...in Japanese tradition...the BIRTH MOTHER is the one to keep it? Why does Karin even have it if she is not Salad's mother and why does Salad need to wear glasses at all? I can't get a single answer for these two questions. Oh so it is natural to exchange weird gifts during birth? "Here, take the umbilical cord." "Thanks, and here take my glasses and make your daughter wear them for no reason." This story blows
Yeah, Maybe Karin is her birth mother... It wouldn't surprise me.
@@azureascendant994 hasn’t that been debunked multiple times before
Yes, so many shipper get mad when people even mention Karin might be sarada month but the entire thing literally points in that direction, some say sarada doesn't wear glasses cuz she needs them, then why does she wear them then, did Sakura just give some glasses and say wear and sarada never questioned it, why did she believe Karin was her mom if she doesn't even need glasses at all, would've make sense for her to believe Sasuke wasn't her dad instead , she didn't have sharigan yet so how could she be sure he was her dad but not Sakura the woman who love her unconditionally, it's an unnecessary red herring to make money of crazed shipper to give them Hope
@@albinoadinross Stories try to debunk it, but here is the thing...it makes more sense for Karin to be Salad'd birth mother than Sakura's. They say one thing, the story itself says another. The chronological events don't align up correctly and it is near impossible for it to occur the way the story wants you to believe.
Sasuke can't hug or kiss his wife, but he supposedly can have sex with her? Some say they did in the light novel, but that canon is debatable and I could also argue it was a fantasy in Sakura's head
Sasuke was literally never there in the village for it to even happen. Basically counting Salad's age, birth, and conception...Sasuke was not even in the same area.
Sakura couldn't remember if Sasuke had glasses.
Sasuke and Sakura are never officially married. They never got a single moment where they had a marriage.
The only way that it can logically happen is of Sakura was artificiallt inseminated thanks to Orochimaru since she knew where his base was.
Even if they hammer into me that Salad is Sakura's kid...NOTHING in the actual story supports and this is one of those show not tell lind of things.
All in all...I think it is a massive retcon.
@@scottsommer9843 Sakura is indeed the mother you gotta be seriously delusional an it’s been years. Everything in the story supports that Sakura is the mother of sarada Sasuke an sakura are officially married the rest you just said is nothing but head canon 💀. Also kishimoto stated that he gave sarada glasses for character design an she caught a high fever that effected her vision after awakening the sharingan at a very young 😂🤦♂️
SHUT UP CHO CHO! , that got me laughing every time man haha 🤣
LMAO ikr
Shut up Dax!! I mean Cho Cho!
I like how in the Sakura novel she wants to help kids, be a sort of psychiatrist for them. But in Gaiden she still can't control her emotions😭
she is so useless.
The big turn off for me with boruto is the ships and children everyone had. It really should’ve been
Naruto X Sakura
2 kids with their daughter being the main protagonist.
Sasuke being alone
Choji being alone
Shikamaru and Temari whatever it’s fine don’t really care about it.
i agree with you , kishimoto created pairings that are toxic and make no sense and gave useless children to useless characters ( choji , sai ) . the ending should have been:
Naruto married with kids ( he deserves a family ), Sakura married , Sasuke alone ( being a father is not a priority for him plus he left sakura and sarada for 12 years )Kakashi maybe not married but at least with a child ( he suffered a lot , he deserves a family more than other characters ) shikamaru married , sai, ino, kiba , shino - i don't give a fuck about them
@@ilyjeistop cursing its a sin dude
Not gonna lie. I thought the story was alright. It's definitely far from perfect and I agree with just about every point in your video.
Thanks for making this.
It has good moments.
Loving your work so far
So Sasusaku never kissed? At that point I don't see them making Sarada. This is some shitty writing. I would have preferred Karin to be her mom.
it was never implied that they never kissed, in fact they kissed in one of the novels. what happened was when sarada asked sakura if they ever kissed sakura was remembering “something better than a kiss”, meaning the forehead poke. honestly i like sakura as sarada’s mom, they have great chemistry as mother and daughter in boruto. i just don’t like how they made sasuke look like a deadbeat
@@ugh5281 They made most of the dads be dead beat or neglectful fathers. Sad.
@@azureascendant994 yeah i don't like that either, especially coming from naruto and sasuke. those two should be the ones valuing their family the most considering their past.
@@ugh5281 true.
I see more of Karin features in Sarada than Sakura at least in The face
I almost forgot her name was salada then people just started calling her sarada out of nowhere
I think he was eating a salad when he named her….
I still instinctively refer to her as Salada. It took me a little bit to get over "Bolt" even.
@@RetrospectGreg I mean naruto is fish cake
This is mad comedy gold af. Can’t wait for future videos.
I have another question: why does suigetsu work on Orochimaru after everything this man did to him? I thought only women in naruto don't respect themselves. And I also thought hozuki wanted to revive the swordsmen of kirigakure
Sasuke and sakura relationships make me think that sakura is a person that likes pain . a ma-
The shippers are after me..
The only channel on UA-cam that has anything worth saying about Naruto, positive or negative imo! And I can’t wait for Bleach
He a bit biased...just cause you think a story should go the way you want it to doesn't mean it's bad or wrong for not doing so...your opinion isn't the only one that matters and retcons flaws mistakes bad writing occur in every form of media which huch make it relatable cause its written by humans who are flawed like humans are so being so harsh on naruto is really pointless and he seems to only do it for views and clout and cause he was a fan of the series and then got mad at the end so he lives in denial about it...
2:22 well what did you expect from a series that tries to justify the abuse and murder of innocent children ?
Sasuke left just for the sake of the plot: to make sarada awaken her sharingan... that's it
I kinda understand y boruto was mad when Naruto sent a shadow clone to himawaris 8:07 birthday cuz he could do it to see Sasuke I understand he's Hokage but he could at least attend in person
9:16 Yeah I have no idea where the heck that came from. I was pretty much absent from Naruto fanbase since the anime ended in 2017, after I saw a few glimpses of the Boruto anime and I watched the Naruto Gaiden adaption in Boruto but then just left for 4 years. I came back last year and I see the "Boruto's dad" joke. I still don't get it.
18:00 Ha, Kishimoto was such a fool for saying Sakura would be a terrible person for letting go of her ""love"" for Sasuke.
Yeah, the Boruto dad meme is boring at this point. Or at least find ways to twist it to something fresh. It’s just overused.
It was funny the first month, but just end that stuff already.
The Naruto fandom really specializes in making overused memes...
personally imo what really made naruto start to go downhill in quality, i still do enjoy it and even watched boruto, but naruto used to be much more grounded when it came to it's fighting, we didn't have people casually creating craters or spamming the same taxing attack over and over without any consequences "i'm looking at you Kakashi" We had good ol fashion hand to hand combat with kunai, shuriken and the occasional jutsu that took alot of prep with hand signals to work, Once apon a time Orochimaru and Hiruzen fight was considered the best of the best, it can't get any more crazier then this, this is a hokage level battle right here.
Power creeps and insane feat gaps have always been an issue with alot of shonen and i think it really started to show in naruto by part 2/shippuden, you could argue that this started way back in the chunin exams when naruto fought gaara and the amount of damage two genin were creating even back then. And then the war arc happened in shippuden and it turned into a Micheal bay wet dream with the amount of explosions and giant energy blasts surrounding the battlefield that is where the series especially jumped the shark with its scaling of power feats.
Don't even get me started on madara in the war arc.
At the time, I was willing to give this a chance. I figured Kishimoto would just tell a story about the New Team 7 (or Boruto and Sarada at least).
Aaannnndddd…he chose to open with this. I guess the lesson of “If you expect anything from Kishimoto, he will do the opposite” didn’t set in.
Remember your scream at Susanoo Kakashi? That was me in the first chapter of this.
Kishimoto should have just moved on from his pairings, but he seems obsessed with making SS worse.
Yeah, I do kind of like Sarada while despising her origin. Throughout this I just felt really bad for her.
And then the manga makes her dress like a….something not very nice. Have you seen Batman Year One? Watch the scene where Bruce Wayne walks in downtown Gotham and is solicited by a child prostitute. But the current manga Sarada in her place, and she would fit right in. Maybe even better (or worse).
I guess if there’s anything to give Boruto credit for, they’re moving away from the sharingan bullshit. I can’t really attest to the quality of the new villains, but it’s something. It was still a bad move to start off with that. I guess Kishimoto was desperate to be done and just did what he knew to do best (or worst)
There is a conspiracy that both Sarada and Boruto were meant as SK and NS kids but changed their mothers at the last second. I guess on Sarada’s side, that bothered him and he wanted to troll them, when he would have been better served ignoring them altogether. I still do question why Boruto’s favorite color is pink when he’s Hinata’s son though.
Then again, I guess it ultimately comes down to shock value sells and here we are.
But yeah, why the hell is this called “The Scarlet Spring?” Was Kishimoto in a similar situation as Peter Griffin and formed a title based around the things he saw?
Okay I agree with alot of what you said , but reading this comment made me Google manga sarada, and oh God, it's bad , like why just why , am surprised people complain about her glasses not those clothes and HEELS!!
@@salamatusuleiman2393 Manga Sarada is an FBI meme at this point
I will never understand why kishi turned a story about ninja mercenaries into baby daddy drama
Goku spend time with his kids I mean..... he kinda he leaves family at the end of z and he kinda left his family for 7 years willingly.
Also wasn't Sasuke eventually investigating Kaguya realm surprisingly he has more reason to neglect Sarada then Naruto who didn't leave the village and can make a million clones to take his place somewhere.
Goku can easily teleport to his family plus goku spent time with his family in the time skip after the buu arc ended and before raditz came and before the cell games started and gt isn’t canon plus gokus kids were adults now one of the reasons goku went to train uub was so he could be able to protect the earth when the time comes but sasuke just left the moment he got a kid he didn’t even bother spending time with his family
Goku left cause he kept bring threats to earth
Goku was kinda also trying to save the Earth and Namek. At least when we start his adult life he's genuenily caring for his kid
Goku was also dead for a while
@@yoyoman9092 I'm aware that he chose to stay dead I know. That is the 7 years i was talking about.
Sarada will definitely become hokage, because Boruto doesn’t want to. He wants to be the shadow hokage
Is that really a thing? That means “Shadow Fire Shadow”. It just sounds so stupid,
Everyone wants to be Goku but no one wants to learn what made the original depictions of him great, I got tired of the terrible father trait after FMA One piece and Hunter.
I honestly think the Goku is a bad dad meme has been getting out of hand.
At least Hoenhein had good reasons to leave his family in FMA Brotherhood. He even said sorry and made peace with his sons. He may have been flawed but he is a much better dad than Goku, Ging and Vinsmoke.
Tayo Jones That doesn’t make any sense
I just explained why Hoenham is not completely awful. What did you not understand?
Also Luffy's dad Dragon. MCs tend to have absent an dad, so that they can be independent and carry their own series. It's fine for FMA, one piece and hunter x hunter, it's just a bit awkward for 2nd gen series, some fans expect loving family fluff for the OG MC.
This whole Gaiden is such a troll!!! LOL!
People wonder why the last chapter was hated it satisfied no one....even fans of ships were upset cause we already had them confirmed before the chapter came out it was leaked for weeks so we got nothing out of the chapter cause the chapter doesn't even really confirm ships and doesn't give anyone time with each other so it just feels lame
HOW DARE YOU
Inojin is the most beautiful one.
Yet those colors are... Fortunately, in anime he looks better
I always believe in the narutoXsasuke, their secret lover
I would love to see you do bleach reviews since it's my favorite out of the big 3.
And I look forward to seeing more of your videos.👍
Still love those vids my man! I do have my own hot take too though and Imma just share it here.
So i feel like the whole show has a massive problem and that problem mainly is the government in the show being written as horribly corrupt kind of feudalism wkth child soldiers and a sense of rigid control over Shinobi as well as citizen. And this is where the main issue lies imo. There‘s an attempt at world building but it‘s abandoned quickly while the show is trying to appease the editors and publishers by staying in line. Aka the writer being limited in his artistic expression to not risk anything that could drive profit away or make the show not as marketable to the audience they wanted to market to. But that‘s obviously not the main issue. The main issue of Naruto is that it‘s childishly ignorant towards how the world and how politics work as well as a total ignorance and blatant misrepresentation of women.
Mainly this is seen as any female character being useless cause the author neglects them only seeing use in them as a tool for male characters lusting after em. All of them are a carbon copy with a different design slapped on and shows how incapable and insulting kishi sees and portrays women in his work. But not just that. The other issue is a total immature lack of understanding how attraction and romance works wich is a theme in naruto from the start, and a lack of planning ending in plot holes that are miles deep and total derailment of characters, plots, themes and story telling.
Naruto starts as a compelling mystery thing about a strang avatar esque fantasy world riddled with corruption and the characters slowly wake up to this as kids when sh*t hits the fan in the land of waves arc. But soon this kind of mature storytelling becomes less and less prominent as it‘s replaced by medeocre shounen writing, a obsession with sasuke and naruto while all other characters are neglected and a total derailment of morality themes and messed up morals.
We start with a story of a kid wanting to be ninja president to be loved cause he‘s abused as a kid and struggles with his identity and place in the ninja world, and we end with a overpowered messiah keeping up the status quo that literally caused all this misery and destruction that made this whole conflict happen in the first place. So we went from a revolutionary anti evil gov story to a conformist pro evil gov story that feels totally delusional and idiotic to me. Let‘s face it. If we replace konoha with jews, and Danzo with hi*ler, how would you see itachi as the supposedly redeemed poor baby who betrayed his kind for world peace? And how would you view sasuke‘s want to destroy the villiage after learning that? Would you still be on the side of konoha? Well, if you would that‘d mean something pretty damn sinister wouldn‘t it? But Naruto does this. It essenrially sais: brainwash your minority friend into believing that your people‘s genocide wasn‘t so bad, allow your family‘s murderers to lock you up and treat you like that bad guy, and have it all magically be fixed like a fever dream creating something as ridiculously unreal as the infinite tsukuyomi dreams by fixing what is essentially fascism not by overthrowing it wich according to reality was the only thing that worked because ppl literally couldn‘t vote just like konoha ppl couldn‘t, and just magically fixing it instead by making the little fascist apologist who loves friendship and acts like a 10 year old ninja president and thinking that him, you know the big dumb dumb who doesn‘t know anything can uphold peace in a system that is built within fascism and has only ever been that. Naruto would have to have by definition have to changed the system drastically for this to even work and he clearly doesn‘t do it cause even the show sells the hokage position like a desk worker job while danzo, a shadow leader actually did seem to have some power as well as the barely mentioned feudal lords. It almost seems like hokage are just a ruse chosen from a set of manifactured hero arcetypes by chosing em based on ninja status and strength just to keep ppl brainwashed about how everything is ok while they literally have kids fighting to their death and ppl living under essentially fascist rules invading other places and labelling any rebel as an enemy of the state and brainwashing the remaining villiage soldiers about how the fascist are actually the good guys and those pesky rebels are the big bad who they have to fight. Like it‘s just su h a joke if you think about it more than 2 seconds. Even steven universe was more nuanced and that was a kid‘s show with a rushed ending and unexplored worldbuilding. Not to mention avatar‘s fantastic world building and plot. Naruto compared to this is just a show that clearly bit off more than it could chew by establishing a deeply corrupt world and desperately wanting to end it with the unreal pipedream of „world peace“ without understanding a single thing about how something like that could even barely be worked towards and how insanely complex such a issue would be when you try to solve it. I mean it really is just biting off more than you can chew. You could have easily made the thing less about saving the world and more about just saving the friends or winning a war. Maybe even losing it and trying to survive that. You know, stuff other media does that knows how hard it‘d be to fix a world spread overly corrupt system and for that reason decides to not fix everything as a goal but rather talk about the characters who have to live in that and play with them trying to just make the world a bit better. There‘s a reason shows like Naruto feel so childish for ppl who care about politics and media with deep political world building, and it‘s an understanding that humans are fundamentally complex and flawed. And does even seem to get that with pain and all that. But at the same time it‘s portrayal of saving the world is so juvenile that it feels insultingly bad. It started off so good but plumbeted because the writer sacrificed everything that was good about it for childish bandaid solutions to problems as massive as the world itself. It could have been great but it wasn‘t. And the reason for that is that a writer was both backed into a corner due to people driven by only profit dictating what is and isn‘t allowed, as well as someone trying desperately to tell a story with a utopian ending that wouldn‘t work because it was too drastic and too complex for the guy to genuinely be realistic. And i‘d argue most other issues are attached to this same problem root. Bad fem characters? Juvenile thinking about how women are mysterious weird aliens you don‘t understand, politics? Dumbed down misunderstanding about anything that‘s political, messed up childish thinkinf about friendship and love that turn out to in practice usually be deemed as abusive or even illegal irl, juvenial understanding of power and strength. Main chara‘s are literally gods cause main baddie is too strong and literally god and so alien has to snuff him and then gods have to destroy her through a loophole cause he ran out of ideas about his idiotic power scaling. And lastly terrible juvenile morals that literally end up sounding just like leaf propaganda. Aka always chase after your comrades even if they abuse you cause u have to save them or ur a bad friend, never change who you love or break up cause you‘re evil if you do, never rebel even if the gov kills your kind cause they did it for reasons that can only ever be reasonable even if they don‘t feel like that to you and democracy is bad and instead you should just strive to become a slave child soldier and serve ur country only to be ruined later with massive mental damage and not being able to have a stable relationship or life. And lastly lastly, never question the government. And if you do only do it passively by saying: „not being bad is good! And I‘m gonna be good! But not too much so the villiage don‘t actually get mad. Uwu“.
And that‘s all i have. Hope u didn‘t mind the length. Just had to get this off somewhere. And if u read it till this point thx. Hope u enjoyed the read!
This was extremely well written. I have the same issues when discussing Naruto with others on Quora. The fanbase is knee deep in denial, childish and sensitive to critique on this awful series. They refuse to think about what they're watching and they enable all sorts of crap to pass w/o any sort of discretion or discernment.
Avatar is a masterpiece compared to this series. FMA is golden compared to Naruto. The fanfiction for Naruto is so much better then Canon.
I read this chapter and saw Sasuke walk away while smiling with the bento made by Sakura.
Three assumptions.
1) He didn't want to be affectionate with her in front of Sarada (doesn't make sense to me since he could do the same thing he did to her last time).
2) He wanted to tease her (not possible since he wouldn't know teasing even if his life depended on it).
3) He legit just smiled because he got to spend time with them (probably because of Sarada).
Although, given all this... it doesn't make sense on Sasuke's character and Sakura looks defeated as hell.
On the other hand, we know who Naruto thinks about when receiving the bento from Boruto😎
In the end, this is the only franchise which made me regret ever watching it.
The fact that Number one and number two are actually both correct LOL 😂 fun fact in Japanese culture it’s not appropriate to kiss ur partner in front of ur child and sasuke is a man of tradition!!!! And Kishimoto straight up says sasuke enjoys teasing sakura!!!! LOLLL oh and what else would Naruto be thinking of besides “why didn’t my hyuga maid not get me ichiraku”
@@Ajsobrainsalot Asian culture part is correct.
Problem is, given how the pairings have been established, it's essentially laughable to just look at them. Kishimoto has also said that SS is like a drug addiction... so, yeah.
As for the bento scene with Naruto, it's surprising that this was made by Hinata and delivered by Boruto yet Naruto can't spare a second to remember her.
LOL!!!
Man, this franchise was so much fun and it's devolved into a badly written shoujo manga with power scaling elements🤣
@@faridkhan6037 Wait- what? When does he compare the- pair to a drug addiction?
@@Ajsobrainsalot He actually said this after the manga ended whilst also saying that he pitied Hinata... therefore, you got the redux version as a sequel.
Lessons learned:
1) Avoid single ships unless absolutely confirmed.
2) Avoid long franchises until they end.
3) Avoid Shounens with major dependence on romance.
@@faridkhan6037 LOL- has a sasusaku defender I won’t even fight this
Yes!!! A new video from Retrospect Greg himself!!!
The way this story was written is hilarious cause it still has implications in the story EVEN NOW
Do you think Naruto and Sakura would be better ship
William Georges for Sakura most definitely
@@RetrospectGreg what about Naruto ?
@@ride9581 is he happy with Hinata? Asking earnestly
@@RetrospectGreg tbh hinata's personality doesn't match his idk probably they are I personally feel he would have been happier with sakura :/ no hate to hinata tho
And why is sasuhina even a thing
Plus, i dont know why Hinata suddenly turned into a strict mom. She was a shy girl so it kinda doesnt make sense that she became strict. Its like Kishimoto took Sakura's personality and put it in Hinata.
People shit on goku for being a bad father but shou tucker and vinsmoke judge in the corner
Apparently the reason why sarada wears glasses is because why sasuke bit Karin, karin having heal bite. Her DNA mixed with sasuke and sakura's? And that's why sarada wears glasses.
Wait. That's what they said?
@@RetrospectGreg yea. Explained by the great kishimoto himself. And if sarada was sakura's true daughter they didn't she just sit her down and talk about sasuke leaving out he was a criminal. Oh wait then this gaden novel won't exist
@@briannamachcinski4553 yeah I would love to see what would happen if Sarada found out that her dad was a criminal.
@@RetrospectGreg or if she asked who her dad's first kiss was
@@RetrospectGreg or uncle itachi. Rip.
Hey RetrospecGreg you going to review Naruto road to ninja?
DarkTorn actually.... yeah I might do that
RetrospectGreg please keep going, love your work
I take back my comment about u calming down in the war arc comment section. 😂😭 u addressed that already
Ah I’ve been waiting for this
Hope you like it.
RetrospectGreg thanks and I liked it. And yeah I’d definitely want to see you talk about bleach
@@jknetwork6211 Naruto and Bleach are probably the two big Shonen series that progressively got worse.
RetrospectGreg those two and fairy tail and seven deadly sins if you seen or heard of them.
@@jknetwork6211 I've heard of them, but haven't read them. Although I have heard he didn't end Fairy Tale on pairings at the very least.
0:49 ok I am now going to start thanking you now for pointing out that zutara is toxic as fuck thank you good sir for pointing out the toxic bullshit that is zutara but as for sasusaku while I do agree that in the original and shippuden the couple does suck but the thing is we also need to aknoledge that Sakura is to blame as well for the toxic moments that these two had in shippuden like the time she tried to kill sasuke and the many times how she took no for an answer
The sad thing is that out of all the stories that boruto can offer this is the best one.
I know the manga retold the movie and that set things back for a while.
RetrospectGreg ha that’s nothing compare to the bullshit that the anime did with that movie arc someone they managed to make it worse then it already was
@@carlacarrero4975 How is Naruto as a Dad? I wonder.
RetrospectGreg well he’s honestly not that bad sure he works a lot but when he doesn’t he actually tries to spend time with his kids but because of boruto being and insufrible tsundere he doesn’t get to do much except for himawari
You know damn well this isn’t better than the kawaki arc. Just baseless boruto hate as usual
Not to mention the breeding propaganda: the novel put the idea of adoption in such a negative light that it seemed like the worst sin ever. The way they advocated for BiOlOgIcAl kId as the only socially accepted way of having a kid made me puke🤮🤮🤮 from a SasuSaku fan, I've became their number one anti-fan as a couple.
Erm? They aren’t making adoption a bad thing in the novel? They literally send all the shins to a orphanage- LOL
Naruto litteraly explained to Sarada it doesn't matter and Sarada accepted this. It is like people in this Channel don't read the serie
Don't say sorry to people who don't know you cause it's only make things worse
I personally love Boruto as a character he is a genuinely relatable character he has similar upbringing to most kids now. I never really hated Boruto for how he treated Naruto since Naruto was an absent father to Boruto. You would think that Naruto would be interested in raising his son but now he abandons him for the village and this is the same Naruto who grew up as an orphan. sorry, Boruto was justified in how he treated naruto you see in the beginning he didn't know what his father went through so his knowledge was limited, but his father told him how he grew up and found a new middle ground and love for his father and position. Bottom line, Boruto and the new team 7 are my favorite characters. I love relationships they share its o wholesome.
I only watched Naruto for Sasuke🔥something happens to him me and a lot of us(I mean a lot) are out DUECES✌️
10:48 like mother like daughter
this video is hilarious and has so many good lines omfg
Sasuke and Hinata makes more sense lololol
Biggest cap in history
@@lilsavage337 I don't ship sakura with anyone because she should of died in part 1 but I will say she always loved sasuke and so I don't mind the ship...it's just awkward is all
@@razkable that’s cool
I always want to see Naruto adult for anime based on Kishimoto original design likes in Chapter 700-710 Naruto Manga, especially his face and Hairstyle.. in Anime they only use the outfit colour but the design of Naruto not cool likes original version. I'm glad that i still can see Kishimoto design in this Manga and the day Naruto became hokage. I want to see more Kishimoto art of Naruto adult.
I was so mad when this sh*tshow was released because, Kishimoto, seriously??? He saw some people trolling for a pair of glasses and in his attempt to validate SS as a couple he ended up trashing it and make them look even worst.
I AM an SS shipper and I think what he did in Ch. 700 was fine, like Sasuke was was in a mission but nothing said he was a straight up an absent father, the comes this and we get so many iconic moments like, We now know Sasuke was barely in his own daughters life, Sakura knows nothing about Sasuke, Sakura doesn't even have ONE good photo of Sasuke and the best she could do was to use a photo of Terrorist Sasuke and paste heeself by his side, Sarada's knows nothing about her heritage and is not like Sasuke cares either even though he was proud of his clan all through the story, and the list goes on.
if sharingan let's you copy any technique you've seen, then how is sarada copying sakura's super punch mean that they are related?
in the boruto movie sasuke really redeemed himself for me with how he could understand boruto...hes like your like me with a family...you have people who care about you a sibling who adores the ground you walk on and a caring mother who worries and a dad who wants to be proud of you.....from day 1..naruto did not..so its hard for him to connect with you on a emotional level...but if you ask about his past he can spend more time and you can learn about each other..its actually really good stroytelling...i loved sasuke in that moment...and he calls boruto a loser cause he hates to lose
Sarada: is sakura my mother?
Sasuke: * uses Sharingan to show her some memories with pregnant sakura *
Sarada: oh, ok
Credits
This whole plot could’ve been easily avoided
@@RetrospectGreg this whole plot only existed so sarada could awaken her sharingan🤡
I totally agree
please read boruto manga and do the reviews
I know you hate it but do it for your fans :)))
zenicacajdras maybe after Bleach
I read Boruto Manga, still a messed up since Naruto episode 698. Hopefully Boruto will become non canon.
I love watching sasusaku shippers cope by using none canon materials.
jesus christ, they need to take the L's and move on.
damn.
19:28 just to warn you ichiruki was never canon ichigo was never in love with Rukia and rukia was never in love with ichigo also rukia was like a thousand years old while ichigo was 15 freaking 15 when they first met so no ichiruki was never a thing and it’s just shippers being delusional like zutara shippers no offense to anyone
never said it was. I always saw the relationships in Bleach as not necessarily being romantic.
RetrospectGreg oh that’s good you’d be surprised at how horrifying many people actually believe that and harrased the author over it even with the anime coming back and knowing how it ends they still expect it to be a thing
@@carlacarrero4975 don't get me wrong. I don't care for the canon pairings either. But at least none of them are as offensive as SasuSaku.
RetrospectGreg I honestly don’t care either to be honest but I’m so sick and tired of toxic ichiruki shippers ruining the fun and acting like hipocrites and as for the canon pairings we’ll I can 100 percent tell you that they are nothing like sasusaku
@@carlacarrero4975 I mean... SasuSaku is pretty bottom of the barrel.
i never read the book
3:13
No! WDYM! 🥲
Inojin is adorable 😭
Kishimoto made him ugly. Glad they changed it in the anime.
you deserve more views
Cuz they could be cute couple so I’m gonna start shipping Greg with Chocho now.
Ewwww
Yeah, Ship it.
3:24 actually he is but it was due to experimentation not by getting a chick pregnant
I'm aware.... not that makes it any better.
like... why would they put Orochimaru's kid on the same team as Naruto and Sasuke's kids?
RetrospectGreg well in the anime naruto talks about how it’s not fair to judge mitsuki based on his parent because he relates to him due to naruto himself being outcasted
RetrospectGreg ah ok
@@carlacarrero4975 that's always the reason.
Please do boruto lmao
Naruto Gaiden was a piece of shit.
Since it's a cookie ccutter with a half ass backstory.
And just to push the new generation on us. Who are rehashing themes from the original series that we already saw.
Sarada ironically is a better character than everybody else in this manga.
Did kishimoto ate something after war arc😂😂 whats he been doing man.. Garbage movie the last, boruto! Killing Sasuke's character instead of redeeming him. I mean we want team 7 newest photo man. Not some third generation BS.
Kishimoto was not the one who made that movie
... why does everything have to end well. its obvious sakura and sasuke where gonna be used as plotpoints later. its also a good lesson ontop of that
Didn't you not once said that sakura wasn't on the poster and I literally see sakura in the poster of the arc like bruh COME ON!!!
I mean their relationships arent that great but idk why you act surprised when it happend like nigga….. shit has been spoiled in the first ep also sauske spent a long ass time in prison blind folded and with his hands tied for like a long ass time so he did atone for his crimes and still is like that his arm is still missing even though it can easily be replaced its his choice to atone not only that but thats not orochimarus kid at least technically and the reason naruto is so cold to boruto is because it is literally there relationship like do you genuinely have no idea about good writing and pls understand the fact that this is not a final it’s a continuation so your complaints that the charactars are still flawed is completely invalid because what your asking for is no conflict in boruto
I'm not saying you're wrong but why even cover this? You seem to hate Naruto.
Well it does get me views so what I can say?
....I don’t HATE Naruto but I get very frustrated with it
hating=/=criticism
@@RetrospectGreg why don't you understand naruto wasn't genjutsu into loving hinata...first he always liked her second he realized someone loved him all along which is a big revelation and deal for him to fall for her third she wasn't ready until the movie to be with him as a real partner ...he was naive to her feelings and into sakura...whose never going to accept him....he needs to grow past her....most people don't date let alone marry their first crush anyways especially if they like someone else and you most likely will meet someone after age 18 that's a stranger that you marry...cause you mature
@razkable
Oh, you are full of double standards there in favor of Hinata.
I mean you talk about how Naruto had to mature before falling in love with Hinata.
Who mind you, she never went through any character development at all. She then needed a movie to emotionally dump down and place the boy she loved under a genjutsu for him to even look at shy little miss Hinata.
Which by the way in both said movie and Boruto truly can't say much to her Naruto-kun. I mean Hinata is an enabling doormat to her workaholic husband, and can't step up to make him understand that his family need him around more.
I mean heck she grew up being some what neglected by her own father at least.
Yet Hinata is incapable seeing how it affect her son and perhaps daughter to do anyway but sit on the sidelines.
Anyway please take off your Hinata rosy glasses and look at both her character and the relationship she is in with some grown up eyes.