@@InfernosReaper yea the whole fuckin political system being dumped into one person. Like the hokage deals with almost every possible fucking thing in the village and he is chosen by being the strongest fighter :) Of course I am gonna get Mike Tyson to do some paperwork for me lol
@@HienNguyen-cs1md Yeah, not even beginning to understand the logic there... or how the ninja villages are accountable to the government proper of their respective nations and then that just gets forgotten entirely after a while.
@@InfernosReaper the world building is just so poor yet early on the writer keep trying to kinda expand it. The plot and the world mostly revolves around Naruto and if it's convenient then it is
@@HienNguyen-cs1md Some people who give writing advise say to not work out a lot of stuff ahead of time, but when it's major stuff that greatly affects the world as a whole, they probably should at least put a little thought into it, right?
Then it turns out he has a Nigerian prince relative. Then it turns out he is the lost son of a late billionaire Then it turns out Warren buffet left his entire company to him
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to 2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu") 3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent) 4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree
The Thunder village breaking their treaty by trying to kidnap a girl, then getting caught and trying to double down is the equivalent of a thief breaking into your home, slipping on an ice cube in your kitchen, and suing you for damages.
Then you realized Neji was right all along about destiny and fate. Naruto being the reincarnation of Asura. Kishimoto had Neji killed off because he knew too much
@@razkable Guy was NOT given powers by his dad. He was trained by his dad, and he can't use fucking ninjutsu in a ninja world, the biggest handicap imaginable. Sakura had a literal hokage and sannin train her, and she's still not even 1% of Guy's power. It is not even close, Guy is the strongest mf who got his powers by sheer practice and a strong will
@@karayi7239I think guy is the strongest character in naruto verse (excluding literal gods,borrowed power like tailed beast, EMS as you need another eye for EMS)
Haha haha I was watching and reading the comment at the same time as we all do and it's funny cause I read this line simultaneously with the narrator, love iT when that happens.
@@missinglinkk8936 somehow, from a dude who depleted all his energy and had to dig a hole. Either way, Naruto really should've lost that fight by a count
@@InfernosReaper It's like in a MMA fight how it looks like one dude has the other on the ropes, but then the dude on the defensive hits the guy with a OK punch.
@@HuntertheWraithDragon Not really, because in a MMA fight, Naruto would've lost by count, because he *should* have lost by count in this fight. Also, how in the hell did he manage to dig a hole underground and come out right above Neji? Like, I didn't think about it too much the first time I saw that fight, but on the second time, it was like "wait, how in hell?!"
Naruto is the living embodiment of “pull yourself up by the bootstraps. We get the same 24 hours, you just ain’t doing enough” from a legacy Harvard Chad who’s dad rowed crew.
That's why Naruto failed thrice to graduate, right? That's why Naruto learned to walk on the tree so easily that he collapsed with exhaustion, right? That's why Naruto managed to learn Jutsus like Sharingan users, right? Cry harder, lazy donkey.
Naruto pulled himself up, with only a small loan of one million chakra from the fox living inside him. And then a bailout when his first investment failed by his reincarnated past life. He's just like you and me!
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Sasuke, Itachi, Kakashi, Nagato, Madara pulled themselves up with Sharingan, Rinnegan copying abilities that's just small portion of the eyes full capabilities. Neji, Hinata, Hanabi, other Hyugas just used gentle fist, Byakugan X ray and 360 vision, a small part of Byakugan full abilities. Naruto gets stripped of Kurama, is this close to death and gets saved by Obito and that's bailout by reincarnated life, gift power 💀 What about Sasuke and his Rinnegan? If you hate Naruto so much, just stop watching. Naruto rubs your closed wounds of failure and you get hurt that Naruto got success. Stop watching anime, lazy bum.
Agree with both of you. Naruto had the same 24hrs. The same 24 hours of being trained by the top notch, Kakashi, Yamato and Jiraya (+ weird 4ss frogs) bcs of the red-dawg that his Harvard-chad father put on him and his chakra-rich-girl mother gave him
I feel the need to throw Orochimaru into the ring of Hard Work. While he was born very intelligent, all of his crazy powers were created by his hard work, none of that bullshit madness was just handed to him. He used the power of SCIENCE! magic to improve himself rather than simply being born a freaky snake man.
And the problem is that the bad writing got him too, since all his plans always fails. The only time he shows how powerful he is, is in the fight at the bridge against the 4/5 tails foxy, but even then he had to ran away because he wasn't powerful enough to fight against the half-baked 9 tails. The series always portraits him as a legendary powerful Villain, but he always seems more like a cartoon villain that the powers are capped that is doomed to always fail like Dr. Doofenshmirtz from Phineas and Ferb
Nah you completely miss the point if you think this video is truthful to the manga. You have ninja jesus saying "work as hard as you can for peace and forgiveness". It was never about becoming strong or powerlevels. It was a story about Naruto not turning against the people who bullied him and instead be their hero.
For the guy above. What about the ninja kids used for a system that k1lls them most of the time? Prophecy kid "broke" (not really) the cycle of hated but decided to let feudal lords and child missions exist bcs of "peace and forgiveness"? Try to be less hypocrit if you answer
@@joaop4585 well in fact in Boruto, that I didn't really pay attention to, there's established peace so Ninja's have become more of a cultural inheritance than a real soldier army. The existence of Ninja's and it's hypocrisy has been like the main plot line since the Pain arc.
@Go Time Now I always wanted TenTen to go up against Pain. Her expertise would have been great against Pain's gravitation powers. Just constantly throw shit at him so he uses up all his power and you hit him when he's on his cooldown. They had a few bits of strategy earlier in the series but then it just became whoever has more magic points.... so disappointing.
Boruto : Hey dad, now that you're the Hokage and saved the world like 5 times, why haven't you stopped slavery in the Hyuga family ? Naruto : I believe in it
Boruto: Hey dad, why cant you just have your clones do all your hokage work for you and spend time with us? Naruto: Cause i believe you'll be fine without me
@@monstergelo1072 Which is stupid cause of that birthday scene. If the clones can just randomly disappear like that then it causes more issue with the relationships of his fucking family. Which might not have been an issue if he hadnt make more clones than necessary to do dumb menial tasks that mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. Like taking packages around!
I legit think that Mr. Ruto's childhood messed him up. You see people saying he just wanted attention, right? Pulling pranks, saying he was going to be Hokage just to get people to give him the time of day, etc... and then, finally, when he gets recognition and 'love' from the whole village, it's only because he's saved them all. So let's say that sticks with him majorly. Save the people, they like you. Saving is helping. Can't always be a Pein to beat to save, but you can help, so Naruto decides to keep everyone loving him, he'll HELP everyone. And that sad goal follows him into adulthood and poisons his relationship with his family, because even if he doesn't realize it, he's still the same attention hungry, family-deprived child he was when he was 12. Or something. Just a random thought.
CAPA Naruto never had a choice, he was never going to become evil. He was ashuras reincarnation and he was good so was hashirama. Sasuke on the other hand was the one destined to be evil.
@@capa1575 I don't think Sasuke broke the cycle. He still tried to destroy the village and stuff. The difference is Madara was still alive. And when Naruto and Sasuke defeated him, to me, is what ended the cycle.
@Jotaro97 if you dont like the fate you were dealt go out and try to change it it's kinda simple If I'm destined to be broke my whole life I'm not gonna sulk about it I'm gonna try my best to change it
@Itachi Is superior to you , if Kishimoto was just going to have Sasuke and Naruto being descendants of Alien Gods from the Moon then I think that the series should have ended with Sasuke and Itachi killing all of the villages.
@Itachi Is superior to you , hell the conflicts of war ending the series in Peace ☮️ ✌️ with Sasuke, Itachi, and the rest of the Akatsuki would have made the series a much better series to watch, read, and play than in Naruto Shippuden all the way to the current Boruto Arc, and I’d be even fine if they wanted to do a series like Boruto with the Akatsuki then I’d be throwing out endless money to Kishimoto until he dies of old age with his endless wealth.
Sai: **Makes fun of Naruto’s balls** Naruto: I hate you Obito: **The reason why both Naruto and Sasuke’s childhoods were a living hell** Also Naruto: You are the coolest!
@@hellothere10yearsago97 Or *Kakashi, his teacher who he’s grown close to for the last few years dies* Naruto: meh *Hinata, a girl he’s never had a complete conversation with dies* Naruto: 6 tails
Watch someone who knows more about Naruto than this guy cause PlagueOfGripes doesn't know what Naruto is about. ua-cam.com/video/IoyS3Kl2qN0/v-deo.html Also Naruto literally did create peace and it was through bonds and an unrelenting will, like dude you don't know anything about Naruto
@@bruh8041 The moment Naruto dies of old age, ww5 happens. He literally carried out Pain's plan. Nagato has to be spinning in his grave with enough force to power half of konoha. Its the harry potter ending all over again. There's nothing wrong with the system, some people are just born wrong. The Hyuuga still practice slavery and I guess Neiji was just wrong for being mad about it, chunin exams are still hunger games death matches, villages still train child soldiers, heroic german scientist Orochimaru is free as a bird, Kumo did nothing wrong ig, Obito is the coolest guy, and Konoha is totally free of corruption.
@@JemelJordan-z2o Rain Village is even more fucked than before, the old boomers responsible for the Uchiha massacre are still on Naruto's council as elders, Zabuza, Haku, Sasuke, Neiji, Gaara, etc were all victims of a messed up system and the resulting mindset of being a child soldier but that system is still in place and the story says they were all just born with "darkness in their souls" and everything is perfectly fine. Speaking of the Uchiha massacre, you don't want me to talk about how the author desperately tried to justify a literal genocide by saying that they totally "had it coming" by being mad over being forcibly relocated into a ghetto. Nah but the villain was punched out so that means world peace is achieved. None of the akatsuki members (or 99% of the other villains) can be directly traced back to the ninja system's malice and failures.
@@quote8066 The Naruto fandom has some of the best fanfiction out there. I gave up on the series a long time before it ended, but I still read fics from time to time.
*Cough cough* hinata *Cough cough* Edit don’t text me on some bullshit talking about “she was out of chakra” go read the comments I'm not going to repeat my self to every hinata fan. So I'll say this one time and one time only I don't give a fuck about any female in naruto they are all badly written characters anyway. it was a simple joke pertaining to what the original comment said get over it.
But Naruto in the last arc did nothing but deny the circle of reincarnation and make up with Sasuke, despite their "fate" being to fight to the death. And if you're talking about the frog's prophecy, it was changed twice in one arc, so it's not really a set-in-stone fate marker.
Bratanov I think that was Kishimoto's intention but he didn't convey that well Considering the frog's prophecy was never for them to "fight to the death" but it was more "you'll fight somebody with op eye abilities" Like nothing Naruto did necessarily "went against fate" considering the exact same thing happened in one Hashirsma and Madaras battle where they just kissed and madeup and ruled over the village for a while.
By "fight to the death" part I meant the reincarnation of Indra and Ashura part, not the frog's prophecy. The frog's prophecy changed when 1)Jiraya made a choice to send Naruto the message before his death, and 2)When Naruto chose to convince Nagato instead of beating him, after which the frog said that he didn't expect there to be two "children of prophecy". And your example with Hashirama and Madara doesn't make a lot of sense, since they eventually DID fight to the death, fulfilling the prophecy. It was never stated that their first fight would be the one.
@Lionard Kirsch I still think his death was pointless because they're probably hundreds of different ways a writer could have set them up. The story just used the easiest and most dramatic way. Neji died for drama although I have to admit I liked seeing his goofy ghost.
@Lionard Kirsch true but I still like that hospital scene. Having no regrets despite what happen makes Gai the biggest badass in Naruto. But if it was only his leg that was busted couldn't the doctors just amputate the leg and just give him a new one like how Naruto got a new arm?
@UCPqVBnv3A-pdxzpwaHX67xw Neji should have died protecting Lee. Both of them would have sacrificed themselves for the other but Neji was quicker at the draw symbolically winning their rivalry. Also kill off Ino cause I don't care about her don't care about her son and mind control wouldn't help her in the war. I would say Sakura but the series would try to make you feel sorry that she died and I don't want her to get anymore screen time so she can just disappear.
The major problem with writing like this is that the creators misunderstand the difference between ambition and motivation. Naturo is extremely ambitious. He puts so much energy into impressing other people. But he lacks any motivation to actually do anything.
Not really. The standard Rinnegan does give some pretty powerful abilities, which could be why only 2 people were shown to unlock it as opposed to being given someone else's eyes, however it's not as if it makes someone omnipotent for example.
Telekinesis, soul steal, summoning, healing, energy absorption, telekinesis, and the asura path basically gives you every other generic superpower if you use it creatively
@@eidolon1407 Well, the Deva path can more accurately be described as control of gravitational force (although the anime does take some liberties with this concept) and experienced Rinnegan users like Nagato have been shown to be able to fly using this path. The Ashura path can only do 2 things; create extra body parts ie arms, extra faces, etc. (to more closely resemble the Ashura of Hindu and Buddhist teachings) and use of traditional weaponry ie blades, explosives, lasers. The Rinnegan does give some generic super powers, invisibility is one such example, however most exist outside of the Ashura path.
Might Guy and Rock Lee are the most underrated characters in the whole series. I mean, look at how easy Rock Lee was able to kick Sasuke's ass. And then look at how Madara cheated, then still got his ass kicked by Might Guy. If it was not for Guy or Lee, i would've never watched Naruto, for real.
Except for the fact that Lee was almost 16 by the time of Chunnin exams and Sasuke was 13, Naruto was even younger than that. So your true underdog basically bullied some rookies by calling others gifted and putting himself at a pedestal, he was also about to use a forbidden technique on Sasuke to cripple him before the exam, good thing Guy stopped him, but I guess it's alright since Sasuke's fault was he was born in a powerful clan, so he deserves to get bullied by the "true" underdog.
@@monish2011 You made it sound like Sasuke didn't have any "faults" when he met Rock Lee at all. I do agree with you on one thing, Guy stopped Lee from using the forbidden Taijutsu. But, "bullied" Sasuke? Come on, gimme a break. When Sasuke has his full power, look at what he did? If Itachi did not show up and told him this and that, he would have bullied the Leaf Village as well. Just remember this, when Lee met Sasuke, Lee basically used only Taijutsu, whereas Naruto had Kurama within him(without even knowing how to use that power properly), and Sasuke had the Sharingan an can use it to copy a lot of moves. The main point of this video, is to point out how Sasuke and Naruto were so privilleged(Which is so true by the way) with all sorts of power and still got their asses kicked by Uchiha Madara. Lee only trained so freakin' hard to achieve his power. Naruto and Sasuke basically did nothing. They were gifted with a lot of shit from the very beginning. Mr.Naruto had Kurama sama to protect him, Mr.Sasuke had his own brother to protect him. What did Rock Lee have, in case he ran out of Chakra, huh? Might Guy? But Guy did not even have that much Chakra, so what are you trying to say? That Lee was also gifted and privilleged? Come on, that's not the fact of the entire series.
@Unpopular Opinions how much of the anime have you even watched to make it seem like using one ability is a bad thing like sasuke spamming chidori and his eyes or kakashi spamming the and chidori like get off your soap box bro it doesnt matter at the end of day what they used not to mention naruto knows so much more then just shadow clone jutsu he just uses it to help him out like it was meant to be used
Small note: Kakashi is also related to a previous hokage, he was the student of Naruto's dad together with Obito and a dead girl. He is also the son of one of the greatest ninja's of the village aside from the hokages.
Lmao they really got into an incentious power vaccum with that. Literally all the hokage are connected, sometimes in more ways than one. Leaf village wildin TF out
Kakashi's father would have literally become the 4th hokage had he not ended his life due to certain reasons .Heck he was an even more legendary ninja than the entire sannin . That most certainly says something about .The real reason why kakashi is no way near his father's power whilst having the potential to even eclipse him is simply due to sheer laziness and lack of effort in comparison to someone like might guy who trains day and night to be equal to the likes of kakashi .Had might guy possessed the same potential as kakashi ,he would have become the hokage a decade earlier than kakashi did
Neji: You can't change your destiny. Naruto: No, you're wrong. We can change our own destiny Later Neji: *dies while protecting the main family basically fulfilling his destiny* Naruto: *the chosen child*, *Incarnation of Asura*, *child of the fourth hokage*, and *the child of prophecy* Neji: Dude... uncool
Exactly ! He didn't even learn the basics of his innate element in those 3 years .What the heck did he even do in these 3 years when you compare the dramatical increase of his own power in such a short timespan . It is ridiculous as to why he was so freaking weak after training with jiraiya for years .He more than likely spent all that time helping jiraiya to write his porn novels and movies
Sweechie. Naruto thought smart. He foresaw the future of our political climate in the west and made a *recruit difficulty* button (sexy jutsu). Now all he needs to do is join twitch and be a titty streamer. 😁
Ercushka Kulmetov that is his own jutsu and honestly has never really failed when he needed it. That's quite a jutsu he has when you think about it as it has been proven that even a higher being such as u kygua can be affected by it as it distracts the opponent at the very least. Allowing you to blind side them if you use it right.
"Naruto is a hypocrite because he is a child of prophecy and reincarnation of Sage of 6 paths, Naruto lied about Destiny" --- Naruto, the show and the character, never once denied the existence of Destiny, as a matter of fact it was flat of out told that Destiny does exist, when Neji said one Destiny that everyone shares equally is Death, which is literally a fact which can't be countered, to which Naruto says, "If you don't like your Destiny, you hold the power to change it" Which quickly follows up by the match referee saying "he never lost his faith in himself and never stopped planning his next move, because he knows having faith in himself has the power to change one's Destiny" How does any of this translates to "DESTINY DOESN'T EXIST"??? Later if Destiny can be changed or not works well with the addition of Prophecy and reincarnation, I think it's a Genius move, first of alll, a misconception people have is prophecy and reincarnation are Destiny, they are not, Destiny does not include choices, Prophecy said Naruto could've brought peace or destruction, Naruto brought peace because he decided to be a good person when he all the reasons to turn bad, resent and hate the Village leaf for how he treated him, but he didn't Because he chose to see the good in people like Iruka who always believed in him, Reincarnation said Naruto could've revived the cycle of Destiny or end it, Unlike Ashura and Hashirama, who went to kill each other, Naruto holded back and brought peace by ending the cycle, not destruction. In both of these situations Naruto changed his Destiny for the good because he never lost faith in Sasuke and himself, which ties back to him telling Neji "Destiny can be changed" not "Destiny doesn't exist".
@@hydrocy.9165 lmao no. Naruto was the reincarnation of jesus, had it much easier than the others, had a bad childhood so behaved like an irrational fool in battles, was the child of prophecy. It's almost insulting to say neji changed his destiny, any common sense guy knew they had to save the main clan and the fox jesus over themselves, hence prewritten destiny
Neji: everything is decided in the moment you are born. Naruto: beats him and open his eyes, now Neji learned his lesson. *Some fights later... Sasuke achieved in a week the speed that took Rock Lee his entire life to achieve. This pissed me off so much...
@@isaacm.3535 It's not much better lee taking a year, sasuke was able to do better than naruto and sakura against kakashi because of his intelligence, not because he was fast. Even if he was already really fast, a month is still way too short. I don't even know what point you're trying to make with the haku point, that he can train his chakra control way less than the rest and still find as good results? And then saying he was itachi's little brother after goes against all your previous points. Sasuke learned fast because he was born that way, not through incredibly hard work.
@@isaacm.3535 He had the potential and he had the kekkei genkai is your argument? The two things he is born with? Your mane argument is that he could copy lee's lions barrage by seeing it once, you realise he could only do that because of the sharingan right? He wouldnt be able to copy lions barrage like that without the sharingan. Im willing to believe you and agree with you, but you have to give me a better reason to than he copied lee's barrage by seeing it once, when he could only do that because of the sharingan.
@@isaacm.3535 I'm not saying he didn't work hard, I'm saying that he wouldn't be where he is without the sharingan. I personally don't mind all the powers, but you cant deny that it does take away the sincerity of what the show tries to teach. Yes he worked hard to get to where he was, but not nearly as hard as lee. Getting to the top of sasukes class isnt hard when its full of idiots. What i'm saying is kind of all over the place, but what im trying to say is; yes, sasuke worked hard to get to where he was, but lee worked 100x harder then he did. The only reason sasuke even got to lee's level is because of his sharingan, without it he wouldnt have even made it through the forest. Not to mention sasuke only got to obito level because of itachi basically giving up his life in his fight with sasuke.
@@isaacm.3535 Ok then, explain to me what the show was trying to teach. And quit it with the manga, this video is obviously about the anime, so stop it with the manga.
@@isaacm.3535 I think you've hit the nail on the head there to be honest. After our discussion, i'm questioning whether there is a main theme at all. I guess that means, it fails in some of its teachings, and succeeds in others; one of those failings in my opinion being the theme that hard work always overcomes natural talent/gifts.
My favorite thing is Kiba literally knocked him out for like 5 minutes in the chunin exams but because he’s the main character the ref didn’t react and let him get back up lol
@@snknero9935 Cheat, so is it cheating that Neji uses the byakugan and taijutsu techniques which were given to him since birth lol. Naurot bared the burden of hatred, kurama caused more bad for him then good so letting him get a tiny amount of chakra is more like rent.
It's funny how Rock Lee was miles above anybody at that tournament. Nobody there stood a chance against him, every other fight after that looked like a kindergarten play.
Not to mention the fucker made a ton of kage level clones during a war, that were hundred of miles apart. But he can’t manage to have one hold a birthday cake while in the same town
maybe thats why he is the comic relief character in naruto universe. a subtle statement showing that hard work is a joke and in order to make significant impact in life, you need to be destined for greatness, a reincarnation of someone great in the past, and craft the ultimate power known as Talk No Jutsu. screw hard work, babe
@ITS bullzie Exactly. Shippuden completely destroyed the message with poor writing. In part 1, power creep was low and jinchuriki, kekkai genkai weren't so op. While they were exclusive sources of power, having one wasnt a requirement to he great. With skill and strategy you could overcome 'empowered' individuals as seen with shikamaru fights, lees fights and even zabuza vs kakashi. In narutos case, kyuubi was a detriment as it was the reason for his poor chakra control. And with naruto being a child, him being the hokage to be acknowledged was believable. And then with haku and then with sasuke you see naruto starting to grow... end of part one was pretty good. The problem is part 2. You would think with narutos new found resolve he would have educated himself. He doesn't really learn. Then kishimoto made naruto a mary sue into having all these abilities and trainers. It would have been more compelling if naruto had to claw to power like kabuto. Naruto started out as an underdog, but he lost that title when kishimoto made him over powered
@@crazygamer4260 Naruto won the lottery. Like, five times. And he didn't even buy a ticket. The only time he had to work hard was when he was a sperm swimming to his mother's egg. And even then, you cant be sure.
Dream Chaser I disagree, he still had to work hard, despite all the gifts he got. He had poor chakra contril thanks to the fox, and he wasn't exactly the smartest. He got as far as he did thanks to help from the most important people of the ninja world. For me, what really invalidated all of that was the reincarnation bit, since that was what really made him destined to be great.
Naruto is full of plot-holes that condemned the show to me. Like, everyone during his childhood avoids him for being like the murderer monster itself but when he grows up no obe realizes he always had this power? God damn Kishimoto
All of the parents told their kids to stay away from him. Most, if not all, kids were never taught that he had the 9 tales. The 3rd Hokage made it illegal to talk about it.
@christiannoriega428 That never made sense to me. Hiruzen is such a moron. Didn't do anything about Danzos influence, did nothing to mend the rift with the Uchiha, allowed Orochimaru to leave and become a worse danger. He was such a bum.
@mixkid3362 I feel like that is a more complicated subject that doesn't have a lot of info. We don't really know what Hiruzen did to try to prevent those things. Those situations weren't fully explained. But I'm pretty sure it's not as easy as just firing Danzo. He probably has too much political power or something similar. Otherwise, Minato would have already gotten rid of him before he even died.
Naruto is easily one of the most absurd series i've watched. It never stays true to the ideas it's supposed to be representing. No other shonen to my knowledge has this problem.
To play a bit of devil's advocate here, his political connection to Tsunade seems to be 100% earned. He debated her, made a wager, then won that wager while simultaneously saving her life and helping her overcome her traumas. He also didn't use any dog power during this process except to gain a few extra hours of training time. The only inherent advantage I see here is that he was introduced by Jiraiya, but Tsunade didn't seem to be swayed very much by that fact. Overall, Naruto's political connection to Tsunade could have been fairly earned by absolutely anybody who was placed at the same dinner table as her.
@@ClashBluelight He always more or less had political connections to her though. When they first met she clearly stated that he looked as bad/dumb as Jaraia's last apprentice IE his father. The only reason he was sitting across from her at that table and with Jaraia in the first place was because he was a Hokage's son. So it comes full circle.
The problem with Naruto is that it proposes a hypothesis and then continues to prove that hypothesis wrong as the show progresses, but still seems to be under the illusion that it’s proving it right. Yes, hard work was necessary for Naruto to get where he did after a point, but he also couldn’t have done it without a hell of a lot of luck, prime genetics, and political connections he did not solely earn but gained by virtue of his parentage. It’s like when a millionaire’s child calls themself self-made when they only got where they were because they started with their parents’ money and connections. Yes, he did do far more with those things than others might have in his position, and he did suffer plenty in his childhood, but that does not mean his hypothesis and the hypothesis of the entire series was proven wrong through him. It reeks of nepo baby trying to justify how they earned their position by saying they had to work hard for it. Just because you worked hard, doesn’t mean you started on an even playing field with everyone else. You had privileges and advantages others could only dream of and you would not have made it to where you are without them unless you got incredibly, miraculously lucky. That’s the story of Natuto and it’s telling that he doesn’t realize this himself, but Sasuke and Neji have since day one. Naruto didn’t prove Neji wrong in their chunin exam fight, he proved himself wrong and made Neji’s point for him, all while believing he did the opposite. Big face-palm moment right there.
1. Neji talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself. 2. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground. 3. BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto. 4. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to 2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu") 3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent) 4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree.
😊 I totally disagree with his criticism of Naruto being lazy and a hypocrite. In fact, I believe that Naruto has put in a tremendous amount of effort within his capabilities. He seem to have forgotten that Naruto is an orphan who has been living on his own. Have he taken a look at his classmates? Do he think they are putting in more effort than Naruto? What motivates them to work hard? It's because they have parents and siblings to support them in practicing ninjutsu. Do he think Shikamaru invented the Shadow Possession Jutsu on his own? It was his father who guided him. In the show, it's shown that Sasuke's brother would practice shuriken techniques with him and even guided him in the Fireball Jutsu. Other classmates have family members teaching them ninjutsu, like Hinata and Neji training together in their family dojos. As for calling Naruto lazy and not striving to learn ninjutsu, can you imagine having to study on your own without anyone to encourage or guide you? It's a painful situation. I believe that growing up in a self-motivated and self-learned environment, Naruto has worked relatively hard. Imagine coming home to an empty house and having no one to help you with difficult math problems or no one to supervise your homework. your grades are bound to suffer. Considering Naruto's growth environment with no guidance or training from anyone, isn't it natural that his ninja skills and techniques would appear to be inferior to those of his classmates?. And don't forget, when he was learning the Rasengan, there wasn't a day when he was lazing around. There were times when he practiced until he collapsed in the forest and then woke up to continue training. Does that sound lazy to you? Furthermore, it's absurd to accuse him of being a hypocrite. Naruto has a strong moral compass. Apart from playing pranks, he hardly ever did anything wrong. He's essentially a good-hearted and kind young man. He's willing to sacrifice himself to protect his friends and the village. In simple terms, if you were in danger and asked for Naruto's help, he would definitely shed blood to save you. How does that make him a hypocrite? He'd only be a hypocrite " IF " he was saving people just for the cash or for the fame. I believe that Naruto act of saving his friends and the villagers is absolutely selfless and just doing the right thing , If you really insist on repaying him , maybe just treating him to a bowl of ramen would be more than enough...your evidence for calling him a hypocrite because you think he's lazy Additionally, you seem to criticize Naruto for relying on the Nine-Tails' power. What's wrong with that? As long as he uses it for good deeds, isn't that what matters? For instance, if he saves your life, would you really care if he used the Nine-Tails' power instead of his own abilities? As long as his actions are virtuous, who cares if he relies on the Nine-Tails?
@@夏凝-y3tJesus Christ ,man .The story of Naruto himself is being referred as one that is hypocritical in nature in the video .Not necessarily the character itself regardless of how poorly written it is and the fact that logical and persuasive arguements can be made in favour of Naruto being a hypocrite himself
@@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru What are you even saying? This guy straight up calls Naruto stupid, lazy, and a hypocritical man-baby at the end of the video 41:40 How can you say it's not necessarily the character himself?
@@jeremiemboma I think the joke is that since blue words on wikipedia are clickable links, meaning it leads to a page dedicated entirely to that specific word. So I guess since both of narutos parents turned out to not be complete randoms but very important, elite people of the society and important to the lore of Naruto verse. Therefore wikipedia dedicates entire separate pages to them. So when they appear on a random article, their names are usually highlighted blue. Kinda pointing out the hypocrisy in a meta way.
You do realized that destiny still doesn't define everything right? The series even blatantly spells out that naruto and sasuke defied destiny by being the first time indra and ashura overcame thier conflict. It still shows that destiny can be defied.
@@Nunmanji Yeah, I get that, but that doesn't change everything else about the series on how destiny is the one thing that made everything happen in the series. Hard work, the main message of the series, is ultimately made pointless because destiny and natural talent wins out overall.
Nunmanji naruto being some sort of prophecy child is what prove that destiny and fate are legit the sage of 6 path literally confirm that when naruto was holding hands with all the tailed beasts
Alex Kennard Don't let this distract you from the fact that IDGAF what BS eye power Kakashi has Might Guy (the objectively hardest working person in the series) will always be stronger than Kakashi That stupid plotline with the mainguy teleporting back to the living world never happened
The anime got so popular because every kid/teen wants to believe theyre special just like naruto. It was written to trick kids into thinking he did it all with hard work but really hes just ninja jesus
No way there's actual people like you. This comment had to be generated. Naruto is NOT ABOUT HARD WORK BEATS SKILL THIS IS EASILY SHOWN IN GARRA VS LEE. A FIGHT THAT LEE LOOSES. Naruto is way more about forgiveness and forging your own path. Just because Naruto was born with kurama and good levels of chakra means shit. It actually made it harder for Naruto to use his chakra hence why he was always bad at everything in the academy. Because he couldn't use his chakra properly. Don't even get me started about kurama. Kurama goal was to give Naruto so much chakra until the seal would break. For Naruto to master the nine tails beast power took hard work because kurama hated him. So we can sum up kurama was basically a opp in the some seasons of Naruto . And why do you think Naruto want to jiyara? To train his bijju chakra. And the fact that you stupid enough to call him ninja Jesus is so ed. Naruto being a reancarnate js means that his destiny is to kill Sasuke. It does not give him shit. Heck you can even say Naruto had it worse than lee WHICH HE DID. With all this information that I put in your dull brain we can sum up that Naruto did indeed work hard and that Naruto Isnt about hard work beats talent. The gifts you receive don't mean anything all that matters is what you do with the gifts you have. Please please think before you make such a stupid comment
Naruto at the beginning: Hard work beats talent, nothing is pre-destined. Naruto at the end: Everything was pre-destined, Naruto is a demi-god and the reincarnation of the creator of the ninja world.
@Go Time Now Dont get me wrong i like naruto but i agree with the retcons it has but stop hyping one piece up i might be a little biased when im critising one piece because i slept through half of the episodes but it has hella retcons
@Go Time Now I don't know about that the battle of marine ford was good in my eyes it's a arc that concludes different from any other arc. Z's ambition arc made Fishman island pointless? I don't know how a filler can make a canon arc pointless gonna have to disagree on that one too.
I just wanna point out how when Gaara broke Lee's leg and was ABOUT TO KILL HIM, only ONE jonin stepped up to stop the fight, said jonin being Lee's master who was essentially his adoptive dad or something and everyone else was just watching the kid get killed But when Neji "went overboard" in a fair fight agaisnt the white eyed little princess 5 MFING JONINS INMOBILIZED HIM like they were stopping the assasination of a president
I will never understand why Naruto never focused on taijutsu. He can make hundreds of himself. If he was even slightly good at hand to hand combat, no one would stand a chance against him.
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to 2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu") 3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent) 4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree.
So jiraiya, kakashi, and hiruzen all had a great relationship with Minato, but completley ignores his orphan son, it also baffles me how hiruzen says that he'll take care of naruto but all he did was put a roof over his head. Like at least put him in a orphan system or some shit. And jyria was so close to minato, he could've raised his son (who was named after a character in one of jyria's books) but no instead he was to busy "researching".
I agree with you, but kakashi or jiraiya taking care of naruto wouldnt make much sense in my opinion, it's out of character, especially for horny jiraiya. He's just a talented ninja who has little to no morals and is always drunk hahaha.
@@potxtoe Kakashi might would've done it and it not be out of character. Going off flashbacks, it's very weird that he didn't do it. It also makes no sense that no one told Naruto who his parents were. It's almost as if all that backstory was Asspull No Jutsu
I don’t think being in a orphanage would have been good for him. I mean, he was in one when he was a baby. But being in a place run by people who hate/despise you mustn’t have been great for him.
@@CassidyStarke Once all the backstory came out for Naruto, it didn't make *any* sense for people to hate him. Kurama was sealed into him in secret, so only a few know about it, and he's the son of the most beloved Hokage up until that point. . It's not like Gaara whose mom died in childbirth and was constantly hurting people, because wasn't the son of a master of sealing techniques and is not of a powerful jinchuuriki host bloodline(Uzumaki can cling to live awhile after their beast is removed, but everyone else dies immediately). . Naruto doesn't hurt anyone and there's literally no reason to be mean to him or blame him for the incident that incident, especially since Uchiha were also blamed for it
InfernosReaper I’m also not 100% how people found out. But it’s not that hard to piece together, I mean there were people around still. I mean the 9 tails attacks the village, 4th and wife fight, 9 tails disappears, all there is left is a baby. I’m guessing is that most found out but were either afraid to say something, of knew not to.
Yeah like seriously. The end fight was. Sasuke: I have cooler red eye Madara: but I have circle grey! Sasuke fucking dies. Naruto: I have cool eye of foxtoad. Madara: *CIRCLE GRAY* Naruto fucking dies. Sasuke and naruto come back with better eyes. Madara: I have grey circle eye! Sasuke: I have a combination of your and my own eyes! Naruto: I have art on my palm! Madara fucking dies.
@The Zoom nope, sasuke was jealous of how he defeated Gaara and saved Sakura, he even felt too much jealousy, its one of the reasons why he ledt the village. Naruto only was jealous of Sasuke because he was succesful and praised by everyone.
Minato: "If anything happens to me, look after my son..." Hiruzen: "I promise..." Naruto 12 years later, living orphaned on the street and being treated like garbage by pretty much everyone in the village while Hiruzen watches from his cozy mansion.
Basically, Naruto suffered a case of "Remember this being a thing?" Remember when lethal chakra limits were a thing? Remember when important side characters were a thing? Remember when completely thought-out strategies were a thing? Remember when not every problem in the series could be solved with a Rasengan?
Leonardo A Yeah. I feel that the Rasengan and Chidori were mistakes in the long run. They just became go to problem solvers instead of the rare and difficult techniques they were built up as.
That really is a stupid plot point. "Since they got caught stealing a child from a major family in the Hidden Leaf, they demand the Leaf give them the guy who killed the assassin."
Naruto is the guy that called Obito a "cool guy" just because he wanted to become hokage too. The man that killed his parents and multiple people in a war!!
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 yeah but he chose to ignore the ninetails while trying to use his own chakra he was trying to find his own chakra but the ninetails chakra was too big so it was difficult for him
не спрашивай не спрашивайте, кто он well if it weren’t for that, he couldn’t fight Haku, nor Gaara and Neji. Plus he is the main character, Uzamaki blood, and Jiraiya (a Sanin) training him
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 actually he would do good without kurama he has a great chakra pool due to being an uzumaki without kuramas interference he would be a legit prodigy
@Sweet Dreams Exactly. Society is full of hypocrites when it comes to hate and revenge. And people complain about how bad the world is when they are the problems themselves Narutotards in general are the reason misanthropes exist
Idk for some reason some part of me wished that sasuke destroyed the hidden leaf they are all a bunch of hypocrites after discriminating uchihas causes so many wars sending children to fight them they consider themselves noble heroes and every other village are shown in a bar light
@Badass Batman What are you...talking about? Are you saying that it's dumb that Orochimaru is just roaming about free in public areas. In which, yes, that is.
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like Sasuke attempted to unite the entire world through fear and war. Sounds good on paper, but it doesn't actually pan out.
@@MFlari PragerU would probably be like “YoU sEe? EvEn tHe JaPaNeSe AgReE WiTh uS!” Nvm, knowing pragerU, they’d just dance around it to basically say fuck blacks😂
@@Mohamad_Fikrimidruto is yaoi series , don't waste your time on that series , a series where protagonist keep sucking his boyfriend d1ck straight for the 700 garbage episodes 🤦💀🙏
There is a reason, why there's so many naruto what ifs, the fans are not satisfied with how it ended, even to the point, you can still find people making them and it getting more 500k views easily.
Naruto is level 1 character who starts the game with all top-tier end game gear and his only objective is to level up his character to be able to equip that said gear.
Not quite. Those weapons are also glitched and shouldn’t drop in the first place. So, no one else could even farm for them. And then his dad convinced his friend to hand Naruto a leveling guide.
yeah and that gear can also fucking kill him and pretty much almost does many times. He also opts to not use the gear because it can fucking kill him and all his friends.
@steven Almost killed jiraiya and left a scar on his chest, also all ppl around him saw him as a fucking freak monster when he transformed into 9tails, he trained literally arcs trying to overpower it so he wouldn't have to resort to using it.
mostly what he said was wrong naruto was an underdog due to him being a dumb ass and having a hard time performing jutsu if im being technical and want to go deep when he was in the academy and titled as an (underdog) the 9 tail fox seal was not as weak as it was once team 7 was formed the seal got weaker through emotions and battles during shippuden they dropped the underdog theme once he received these power ups the theme sort of switched to never give up and follow his will in this video he made some pretty decent points but by the time naruto received sage and the reincarnation powers he was considered a hero already so he started sounded like a dumb ass
^ Naruto didn't deserve half of the shit he got and a lot of the times he was saved by asspulls. Naruto is also not an underdog, the guy was born with a bunch of shit that gave him overpowered abilities.
before team 7 was formed he was an underdog he went from not being able to perform one shadow clone to performing 100+ he went from getting his ass beat by random kids at the academy from whopping jinchuriki asses, and please explain what you mean by he didnt deserve any of the shit he had but to come to conclusions he is a main character if they feel like ass pull and overpowered abilities will make the story better then they will do it if you have a problem simply dont watch the series naruto was a top 3 anime for a very fucking long time so what they did worked not to mention it was big nationally if you feel the need to bitch dont waste your time by watching 500+ EP
Yeah i kinda mad at it like you could make an arm for this bastard but could not make a leg for the guy who actually buys time for our piece of shit mc to revive from the dead.
Another theme, like community > individualism, that they try to portray in naruto is also worthless. In the 4th war, all the nameless ninjas are just fodder for the main villain to destroy lol
The best character in Naruto is Might Guy. Everyone else learned how to shoot magic fireballs and shit and this guy only learned how to kick hard. Really hard. Hard enough to almost kill one of the strongest dudes in the series.
Unfortunately Tenten was absolutely irrelevant, so the 'hardwork > talent' theme of the series isn't well conveyed through the character. At least her design is cool, though.
It's even more than that, like Plague says, He's the reincarnation of a christ analog - fitting because even the fan base calls Nardo and Sauce "The super jesus brothers" after the ending of shippuden.
That's a good analysis,he does work hard though, much more than other side characters (except Lee maybe) so him earning the fruits of that is understandable.
@@DarkAuraLord You know how hard it is to he a christ figure? Try having no friends, and even though you're helping everyone, they still resent you. Keep that up for a few decades see how easy and plot armor filled it is. Naruto had no joke the hardest life, and the highest chance of failure, his upbeat attitude in the face of what he was encountering throughout his childhood is a miracle in itself and why he succeeded more than the nine tails and plot armor. So did sasuke his life was a living nightmare. Great pain enables that great destiny by contrast but only if you can turn it into growth which they did, but that isn't like a plot guarantee naruto and sasuke could have failed at any point but didn't because they never gave up not cause of priveledges afforded them.
His father gave him a small loan of 9 million chakra. Plus the reincarnation of Ninja Jesus's son. Plus related to three of the other hokage Plus related to literal royalty Plus the Uzumaki bloodline Neji was right about fate determining everything, no matter how much Naruto (both the character and the series) claimed otherwise. He just didn't know Naruto had the most ridiculous pedigree in the entire series
(Spoilers)They did change destiny though naruto and ass munch both lived even though the prophecy said the reincarnations would be locked in a battle to the death forever so when they both lived at the end they did in fact change their destiny
SnowyWolborg not at all the series of escalating things and loosing the plot is what ruined the show at the end of the day naruto worked hard he wasn’t destined to work hard or nothing so the point of working hard still stands
@@ErictheConqueror-gy6es He shouldn't need to waste hundreds of hours just to confirm that Naruto is indeed a self contradictory mess and a bad joke lol.
but the main themes of naruto are not about hard work beating natural talent if natural talent also works hard....naruto has themes of bonds teamwork love pain hate revenge forgiveness loss life giving up dreams family ...its not about hard work
Ish actually there a lot to counter tbh. But I, and nobody else feels like writing a essay or making a video to counter this 42:12 minute video. Because the video is kinda dumb lol 😂.
I always wondered how far the main house goes. We saw Hinata having a younger sister, so I thought maybe her children will become part of the side branch, while she as the daughter of the HEAD is save. "The head and his kids", however this was not the case with Neji's father who himself was still the son of the head. THEN we see that Neji's father was the brother of the HEIR, just like Hinata's sister is the sister of the HEIR. SO WHY THE FUCK was Neji's father a member of the side branch, too, AND Hinata's sister isn't? The actual HEAD of the house was still alive when Neji's father had the sign on his head, so don't tell me he only got this after his father died and his brother, Hinata's father became the head. That would actually make sense, but it would still make no sense why Hinata's father was wasting his time training his younger daughter if she would become a side branch member. That was so fucking confusing and I did not find anyone online asking the same question, some made up some weird answers, about the heir's third birthday or whatever. By that logic Hinata's sister should have the sign on her head SINCE birth, since Hinata was older than her. Some say it had something to do with them being twins. (?)That so many people didn't see the same glaring flaw in this scenario really made me scream "AM I THE LAST SANE PERSON ON EARTH???" This also shows how stupid it is to put the sign on all but one heir. What if Hinata's father died before he had Hinata? How would his brother become the next head? Neji was a baby, would he become the heir because he had not had a sign yet? And even in Hinata's case, where all children of the head seem to be main branch, what if all three of them died? Then Neji should be next in line, right? I think Neji's father himself said that Neji had more talent than anyone, but he could not become the heir. Now that is a typical problem in succession and it still does not explain why Hinata's sister is being trained like a main branch member when it was made clear that Hinata was still the heir. Also, shouldn't Hinata and her children now get the mark? EDIT. In another discussion I've come up with a possibility to make this work: The question is then when was she supposed to receive her mark, since Hinata was already older than her. It was the heir's 3rd birthday, not the side member's 4th birthday. If then, they should have made that decision before Hanabi turned 4. I have thought about how it was ALWAYS done on the 3rd birthday of the next heir. SO, does that mean Hanabi would have had her mark done one the 3rd birthday of Hinata's first child? Did EVERYONE who was born after the twin's 3rd birthday receive their mark at Hinata's birthday, like 30 years later? That would make some sense, but we only see Neji. Also, what about the toddlers and babies younger than the heir, who were already around? Do they get it that young? Do pregnant women hope their child is born late and had at least 20 more year to live in freedom? Maybe they really wait with everyone younger than 3 until the next heir. And while you might say, MAYBE only twins get the immediate treatment since they are basically the same, maybe they think with different siblings you can see who is better? Now consider that twins who are identical still can produce vastly different children (HINTHINTHINT) So, it should actually make sense to WAIT with twins, and maybe see how talented their kids are, or even who has the first. Ok that might be a race. Regardless, it still sucks so to speak, that no one thinks it should be fair to then put the mark on Hinata. This still seems like you can be markfree while not being the heir? Unless her father really was already giving up on the tradition but Neji and Naruto don't act like this. Neji still having a "grudge" would be fine, but I would like to have seen some conflict and turmoils. Did Hanabi during the exams, never know what is done to side members? Did she not know about her father's brother? Shouldn't she realise what might have happened to her? Or that she was only born because her father made such a decision? Is she afraid what might happen to her sister, now that she is the heir? And if she already knew during the fight in Shipuuden, they could have made some explanations, and say if Hanabi wins, Hinata is free until the next heir has its 3rd birthday. Or maybe they already think of skipping it with her. And Hanabi before the fight could have some doubts if she wants herself or her sister to be a slave. As should Hinata, it is not just about letting her win the title. Anyway, Hanabi was introduced as the preferred younger sibling, way before we hear about her and Neji's father being twins, right? They were described as distant cousins of a super large clan. I really think the writer just came up with that later, forgot about the problems Hanabi caused, which is why she isn't really discussed, AND THEN DIDN'T mention her for like 400 chapters. Still I think it could have worked with just a little thought. Either during the Neji fight, or much later in Shippuuden. Like I said, retcon Hanabi realising stuff about her father's brother, what that meant, etc., regardless if she knew about it during her fight with Hinata. I mean, if she realised there should have been much higher stakes this would also make a good scene. EVEN if that happens 400 chapters later.
This is so true, it is actually sad. Man i wish they had actual backstory for Tien and had a great story for Dragon Ball Super. I also wish they actually had a logical and a great story direction for Naruto.
I'd say Neji is Naruto's version of Tien. They were both antagonistic geniuses with exceptionally good vision who were forgotten as Sharingans/Saiyans took over.
@@artherfleck7383 Did you see what Kakashi did at the end? Perfect susano and more importantly he didn't nearly die. Kakashi become the Hokage and Guy is bound to a wheelchair, pay off how???
@@Daivd1111 that was just a temporary buff. And he would've died if he used it for a little longer, he barely used it for like 10 min. Guy earned respect for his actions. He is now one of the best shinobies
@@Daivd1111 yeah it's temporary but he developed those skills by himself , he didn't get it from a external source. That's what sakumo was referring too. And it did pay off. So if obito didn't kakashi those eyes. He would've never been stronger then guy
For some reason, despite being able to make a billion clones & their ability to transfer experience into him, adult Naruto always seems to be busy with paperwork, so he has no time for his own son.
@@kidathlete Nah, it's just forced drama. Naruto can get the paperwork done in no time, but he's a lazy dick. Naruto could spend time with his family, but doesn't because he's a selfish dick. Adult Naruto is kind of a piece of crap, apparently. Either that or he's super genre savvy and trying to make his son grow up to be an amazing mage, er, ninja.
"you can change your own destiny" -Naruto Uzumaki, jinchuriki of the 9 tails, reincarnation of Ashura Otsutsuki, child of two prophecies, main character, member of clan known for their immense amount of chakra, and son of the 4th Hokage
Most of those things you mentioned are for no reason, like being the reincarnation of Ashura means that he fights Indra's reincarnation for an endless cycle of killing each other blah blah blah stops the destiny with Sasuke blah blah blah changes his destiny. Son of the 4th Hokage but doesn't gain anything from that and not even his abilities. Main character......yes he changes his destiny. Child of two prophecies....2? Host of the 9 tails who when using his chakra would further the fact that it just wanted his body.
@@crispycreamtm7114 What? Dude, I’m seriously trying to understand what you’re saying but I can’t. Your paragraph just looks like a random jumble of words. “Blah blah blah stops the destiny with Sasuke blah blah blah changes his destiny” What the hell is this even supposed to mean? People can’t accurately respond to you if you can’t perform basic sentence structure.
@@TA-tx3go It's because I've had to repeat the same thing to people multiple times on here, anyways being an Ashura reincarnation doesn't grant Naruto anything but an endless cycle of hate and death with the Indra's reincarnation. He broke that cycle/destiny with Sasuke and the rest is pretty much self explanatory.
@@crispycreamtm7114 Thanks for explaining. Here’s my rebuttal. 1.) “THE REINCARNATION OF ASURA” Asura’s plan/destiny for his reincarnations was to battle Indra and end the feud between them. *Naruto fulfilled that destiny* 2.) “CHILD OF TWO PROPHECIES….2?” a. Like I said in the first point, the first prophecy/destiny would be that Naruto would fight Indra(Sasuke) again. *Naruto fulfilled that destiny* b. The second prophecy/destiny was the one from the Great Toad Sage saying that Naruto would bring a great revolution to the ninja world. *Naruto fulfilled that destiny* 3.) “SON OF THE 4TH””HOST OF THE 9” Minato gave half of Kurama to his son, Naruto. Being the host of Kurama granted Naruto unbelievable amounts of chakra and power that came in handy numerous times. Including in his fights against Haku, Gaara, Sasuke, etc. And those instances where before Naruto even gained control over Kurama. Like a lot of people are saying in other comments, it’s difficult to not see Kishimoto as a hypocrite when he constantly broke his stance on destiny. I think I got all of your points.
@@TA-tx3go Oh okay I thought you came in a bit too rude or too strong in your first reply but I appreciate the effort in your rebuttal and I apologize for the late response. Don't worry I felt that you did get the points I was trying to make and I must say your arguments were well down.
@@danieljoseph30131. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to 2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu") 3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent) 4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree
1. Neji talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself. 2. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground. 3. BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto. 4. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
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Might guy and rock lee are the embodiment of a free to play player in a pay to win world
The Thot Slayer wdym might guy is one of the strongest characters in naruto
Guy can summon a turtle so imma assume he can use chakra like a normal person
@@Mark-yu6xv Yea at the exchange of his ability to walk
@@fishgilbert6875 It's at the exchange of his life. Guy lived cause Naruto used his plot powers to save him. But I get you.
@@Mark-yu6xv to be fair he grinded a shit ton of in game currency to get that 1 use power
What's crazy is despite being rivals, we never see lee and neji fight
Ikr? All we see is Neji knock Lee down in a flashback.
@@eamonxl8183 Probably just twisted his nipples too
That was always something I wanted to see as well, along with a rematch between sasuke and rock lee
@@JoNarDLoLz Lol
@@zacsisolak Yeah. I wish the show got to prioritize its characters rather than the Uchiha clan hijacking the story.
"The ninja president who does all the paperwork because he's the best fighter"
Yeah, that always bugged me.
Especially since there's this whole council of elders who do absolutely nothing and a secret shadow government whom absolutely nothing is done about
@@InfernosReaper yea the whole fuckin political system being dumped into one person. Like the hokage deals with almost every possible fucking thing in the village and he is chosen by being the strongest fighter :) Of course I am gonna get Mike Tyson to do some paperwork for me lol
@@HienNguyen-cs1md Yeah, not even beginning to understand the logic there... or how the ninja villages are accountable to the government proper of their respective nations and then that just gets forgotten entirely after a while.
@@InfernosReaper the world building is just so poor yet early on the writer keep trying to kinda expand it. The plot and the world mostly revolves around Naruto and if it's convenient then it is
@@HienNguyen-cs1md Some people who give writing advise say to not work out a lot of stuff ahead of time, but when it's major stuff that greatly affects the world as a whole, they probably should at least put a little thought into it, right?
Naruto is every 'self-made' millionaire that started with a "small loan of 1 million dollars".
Fr 🤣🤣
A million dollars? You saw how broken those power were? Make it at least a 100 million dollars
Then it turns out he has a Nigerian prince relative.
Then it turns out he is the lost son of a late billionaire
Then it turns out Warren buffet left his entire company to him
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to
2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu")
3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent)
4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree
A loan of 100 million chakra points
The Thunder village breaking their treaty by trying to kidnap a girl, then getting caught and trying to double down is the equivalent of a thief breaking into your home, slipping on an ice cube in your kitchen, and suing you for damages.
That’s how it works in California
Which is totally a thing
It is legal as well. Apparently, if a kid breaks into your yard to swin in your pool and drowns, the family can sue you.
@@dongod2786 that dosen't make any sense
@@Rob-hy6mg I agree
Then you realized Neji was right all along about destiny and fate. Naruto being the reincarnation of Asura. Kishimoto had Neji killed off because he knew too much
IMAO 😂🤣😭😭
😂 😂 😂 Conspiracy
Neji died for this
Lmfao that's funny asf
@Octavian Shut it down.
Remember how Naruto won a quiz by failing to answer a single question?
Duncan Trice 😂
@@GOATMAN-vr7bo
pepperidge farm remembers
I think it was explained in shippuden when shikamaru was giving the exam, how the score was shared between 3 people
@@relentlessdemon5074 thats different
a test. He didnt even finish reading them
Guy is the only true "self-made billionaire" in the series.
Rock Lee too!
Yes! And Rock Lee was my favorite. Hated how neglected he was as the show progressed.
He was given power by his dad...sakura kinda earns her made up powers
@@razkable Guy was NOT given powers by his dad. He was trained by his dad, and he can't use fucking ninjutsu in a ninja world, the biggest handicap imaginable.
Sakura had a literal hokage and sannin train her, and she's still not even 1% of Guy's power.
It is not even close, Guy is the strongest mf who got his powers by sheer practice and a strong will
@@karayi7239I think guy is the strongest character in naruto verse (excluding literal gods,borrowed power like tailed beast, EMS as you need another eye for EMS)
''He apparently got so exhausted from beating Naruto's ass this whole time that getting hit in the chin once was enough to win the match.'' Lmao
It was a surprise hard punch
Haha haha I was watching and reading the comment at the same time as we all do and it's funny cause I read this line simultaneously with the narrator, love iT when that happens.
@@missinglinkk8936 somehow, from a dude who depleted all his energy and had to dig a hole.
Either way, Naruto really should've lost that fight by a count
@@InfernosReaper It's like in a MMA fight how it looks like one dude has the other on the ropes, but then the dude on the defensive hits the guy with a OK punch.
@@HuntertheWraithDragon Not really, because in a MMA fight, Naruto would've lost by count, because he *should* have lost by count in this fight.
Also, how in the hell did he manage to dig a hole underground and come out right above Neji? Like, I didn't think about it too much the first time I saw that fight, but on the second time, it was like "wait, how in hell?!"
“I don’t know much about Naruto”
*knows everything that the rinnegan can do*
Did it ever occur to you that he might have looked it up?
Wikipedia's a thing
@@Richard-uu7eo GOT EMMM
Maaaaan the Rinnegan is so fucking stupid. Of all the dumb powers in Naruto, that might be the dumbest one.
Yea dont take him seriously especially that lie he spouted in the beginning that he dont know much naruto and pretending to forget names lmao
I guess Naruto got a small loan of a million chakra.
yes, like every 5 seconds then having the gut to talk about hard work
😂😂
Lmfao
Not only that, be he constantly bankrupts his chakra points doing obscenely stupid ideas, but in the end he's always bailed out with even more chakra.
Low quality meme
Naruto is the living embodiment of “pull yourself up by the bootstraps. We get the same 24 hours, you just ain’t doing enough” from a legacy Harvard Chad who’s dad rowed crew.
That's why Naruto failed thrice to graduate, right?
That's why Naruto learned to walk on the tree so easily that he collapsed with exhaustion, right?
That's why Naruto managed to learn Jutsus like Sharingan users, right?
Cry harder, lazy donkey.
@@Vargram1 shut up, lazy donkey.
Naruto pulled himself up, with only a small loan of one million chakra from the fox living inside him.
And then a bailout when his first investment failed by his reincarnated past life.
He's just like you and me!
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Sasuke, Itachi, Kakashi, Nagato, Madara pulled themselves up with Sharingan, Rinnegan copying abilities that's just small portion of the eyes full capabilities.
Neji, Hinata, Hanabi, other Hyugas just used gentle fist, Byakugan X ray and 360 vision, a small part of Byakugan full abilities.
Naruto gets stripped of Kurama, is this close to death and gets saved by Obito and that's bailout by reincarnated life, gift power 💀
What about Sasuke and his Rinnegan?
If you hate Naruto so much, just stop watching. Naruto rubs your closed wounds of failure and you get hurt that Naruto got success.
Stop watching anime, lazy bum.
Agree with both of you. Naruto had the same 24hrs.
The same 24 hours of being trained by the top notch, Kakashi, Yamato and Jiraya (+ weird 4ss frogs) bcs of the red-dawg that his Harvard-chad father put on him and his chakra-rich-girl mother gave him
Rock Lee was a monster in Naruto, but in Shippuden all he did was just standing
😞 this is really sad.Rock Lee will always be my favorite.He is the character we needed.
After Chunin exams he got nerfed hard
Like how can you build up a character just so you can turn him into a jobber
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like Agree
Ikr
I feel the need to throw Orochimaru into the ring of Hard Work. While he was born very intelligent, all of his crazy powers were created by his hard work, none of that bullshit madness was just handed to him. He used the power of SCIENCE! magic to improve himself rather than simply being born a freaky snake man.
notsae66 i never knew orochi has nothing special and learned a lot of jutsus
As a bonus, despite being ninja Mengele / snake Michael Jackson, Orochimaru gets to become immortal with almost zero consequences.
Hard work. Of human experimentation
Freaky snake man 💀💀
And the problem is that the bad writing got him too, since all his plans always fails. The only time he shows how powerful he is, is in the fight at the bridge against the 4/5 tails foxy, but even then he had to ran away because he wasn't powerful enough to fight against the half-baked 9 tails. The series always portraits him as a legendary powerful Villain, but he always seems more like a cartoon villain that the powers are capped that is doomed to always fail like Dr. Doofenshmirtz from Phineas and Ferb
That Gaara mention. “He’s so gifted all he has to do is stand still” 😂
I laughed so hard at that 😂
Well he has sand that's basically alive protects him if you ask me that's pretty gifted
@ITS bullzie what that doesn't make sense
@ITS bullzie what sasuke copied Lee's move not his speed sasuke is already fast anyways
@ITS bullzie no no no kakashi literally said the sharingan is Capable of copying justu he said nothing about speed being apart of it
i cant believe we watched literal ninja jesus say "just work harder bro" and thought it was deep
Nah you completely miss the point if you think this video is truthful to the manga. You have ninja jesus saying "work as hard as you can for peace and forgiveness". It was never about becoming strong or powerlevels. It was a story about Naruto not turning against the people who bullied him and instead be their hero.
For the guy above. What about the ninja kids used for a system that k1lls them most of the time?
Prophecy kid "broke" (not really) the cycle of hated but decided to let feudal lords and child missions exist bcs of "peace and forgiveness"?
Try to be less hypocrit if you answer
@@MrFlejon fr. This video misses the point of Naruto. Or he’s just slinging hot takes for clicks
Jesus suffered more than most people so
@@joaop4585 well in fact in Boruto, that I didn't really pay attention to, there's established peace so Ninja's have become more of a cultural inheritance than a real soldier army.
The existence of Ninja's and it's hypocrisy has been like the main plot line since the Pain arc.
"Rock Lee is the only character that actually exhibits the lesson the series is trying to teach." That's insanely accurate lmao
Go Time Now fax
@@licro4792 shed end up as suigetsu rival
@Go Time Now I always wanted TenTen to go up against Pain. Her expertise would have been great against Pain's gravitation powers. Just constantly throw shit at him so he uses up all his power and you hit him when he's on his cooldown.
They had a few bits of strategy earlier in the series but then it just became whoever has more magic points.... so disappointing.
OK, that's going to the other extreme. Lee is too simplistic of a person, too unidimensional.
@@MrAlepedroza and Naruto isn't?
Boruto : Hey dad, now that you're the Hokage and saved the world like 5 times, why haven't you stopped slavery in the Hyuga family ?
Naruto : I believe in it
Boruto: Hey dad, why cant you just have your clones do all your hokage work for you and spend time with us?
Naruto: Cause i believe you'll be fine without me
Naruto: Because the writers forgot about it.
he used clones to spend time with family and do hokage work himself though
@@monstergelo1072 Which is stupid cause of that birthday scene. If the clones can just randomly disappear like that then it causes more issue with the relationships of his fucking family. Which might not have been an issue if he hadnt make more clones than necessary to do dumb menial tasks that mean nothing in the grand scheme of things. Like taking packages around!
I legit think that Mr. Ruto's childhood messed him up. You see people saying he just wanted attention, right? Pulling pranks, saying he was going to be Hokage just to get people to give him the time of day, etc... and then, finally, when he gets recognition and 'love' from the whole village, it's only because he's saved them all.
So let's say that sticks with him majorly. Save the people, they like you. Saving is helping. Can't always be a Pein to beat to save, but you can help, so Naruto decides to keep everyone loving him, he'll HELP everyone. And that sad goal follows him into adulthood and poisons his relationship with his family, because even if he doesn't realize it, he's still the same attention hungry, family-deprived child he was when he was 12.
Or something. Just a random thought.
Naruto: “There’s no such thing as fate!”
Also Naruto: *the child of prophecy*
CAPA Naruto never had a choice, he was never going to become evil. He was ashuras reincarnation and he was good so was hashirama. Sasuke on the other hand was the one destined to be evil.
@@capa1575 I don't think Sasuke broke the cycle. He still tried to destroy the village and stuff. The difference is Madara was still alive. And when Naruto and Sasuke defeated him, to me, is what ended the cycle.
Naruto never said there's no such thing as fate🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
He Said if you dont like your fate then go out and change it
@@capa1575 so you have a fucking taled beast inside u and u fail and start passing again so ur cool? Nice.
@Jotaro97 if you dont like the fate you were dealt go out and try to change it it's kinda simple
If I'm destined to be broke my whole life I'm not gonna sulk about it I'm gonna try my best to change it
I think the real moral of naruto is just "be careful who you call ugly in high school in case he grows up to be the god president"
the last half of shippuden just came down to who had the coolest eyes
You made me laugh so much I got hickups. Right on the fucking money literally..
Exactly why i stopped watching when the woman god something shows up lol
@Go Time Now She's more like an alien rather than God.
😂😂😂😂
Well... if you didn't pay attention then sure 😅
Beginning: punching and stabbing each other with kunais
End: punching and smashing each other with their family trees
Yeah, but for me.. I felt like it was worth it. That obito arc.... It was a masterpiece In my opinion.
@The Zoom I know it was a accident but naruto x sauske is cannon
@Down 4 clearly never watched the show
@Itachi Is superior to you , if Kishimoto was just going to have Sasuke and Naruto being descendants of Alien Gods from the Moon then I think that the series should have ended with Sasuke and Itachi killing all of the villages.
@Itachi Is superior to you , hell the conflicts of war ending the series in Peace ☮️ ✌️ with Sasuke, Itachi, and the rest of the Akatsuki would have made the series a much better series to watch, read, and play than in Naruto Shippuden all the way to the current Boruto Arc, and I’d be even fine if they wanted to do a series like Boruto with the Akatsuki then I’d be throwing out endless money to Kishimoto until he dies of old age with his endless wealth.
Naruto: “I hate you”
*5 seconds later*
Naruto: _talk no jutsu_ “Friend”
He never did that to Kabuto lmao
@@jaysmith3173 Itachi says hello.
@@andrei-cezarbleaje5519 Itachi isn’t Naruto
Sai: **Makes fun of Naruto’s balls**
Naruto: I hate you
Obito: **The reason why both Naruto and Sasuke’s childhoods were a living hell**
Also Naruto: You are the coolest!
@@hellothere10yearsago97 Or
*Kakashi, his teacher who he’s grown close to for the last few years dies*
Naruto: meh
*Hinata, a girl he’s never had a complete conversation with dies*
Naruto: 6 tails
Reminder that to this day Naruto does not have an answer to Pain's question of how exactly he was going to create peace
Watch someone who knows more about Naruto than this guy cause PlagueOfGripes doesn't know what Naruto is about. ua-cam.com/video/IoyS3Kl2qN0/v-deo.html
Also Naruto literally did create peace and it was through bonds and an unrelenting will, like dude you don't know anything about Naruto
@@bruh8041 The moment Naruto dies of old age, ww5 happens. He literally carried out Pain's plan. Nagato has to be spinning in his grave with enough force to power half of konoha.
Its the harry potter ending all over again. There's nothing wrong with the system, some people are just born wrong. The Hyuuga still practice slavery and I guess Neiji was just wrong for being mad about it, chunin exams are still hunger games death matches, villages still train child soldiers, heroic german scientist Orochimaru is free as a bird, Kumo did nothing wrong ig, Obito is the coolest guy, and Konoha is totally free of corruption.
@@voidimperial1179chunin exams are not still the hunger games lol.
@@JemelJordan-z2o Rain Village is even more fucked than before, the old boomers responsible for the Uchiha massacre are still on Naruto's council as elders, Zabuza, Haku, Sasuke, Neiji, Gaara, etc were all victims of a messed up system and the resulting mindset of being a child soldier but that system is still in place and the story says they were all just born with "darkness in their souls" and everything is perfectly fine.
Speaking of the Uchiha massacre, you don't want me to talk about how the author desperately tried to justify a literal genocide by saying that they totally "had it coming" by being mad over being forcibly relocated into a ghetto.
Nah but the villain was punched out so that means world peace is achieved. None of the akatsuki members (or 99% of the other villains) can be directly traced back to the ninja system's malice and failures.
@@voidimperial1179 I thought you were talking about the chonin exams in boruto mb og 🫡
"Someone with basic common sense would be *very* dangerous in this universe."
And that's why Fanfiction exists.
Yep, But that would be a "Mary/Gary sue" in this world.
"Fanfiction"
Are there any that are actually good?
@@quote8066 Yes. You have to look for them.
@@quote8066 The Naruto fandom has some of the best fanfiction out there. I gave up on the series a long time before it ended, but I still read fics from time to time.
@@30251 Could you post them?
I always hated how they can literally walk up walls, but whenever there’s a time that it’s applicable, they completely forget about it
*Cough cough* hinata *Cough cough*
Edit don’t text me on some bullshit talking about “she was out of chakra” go read the comments
I'm not going to repeat my self to every hinata fan. So I'll say this one time and one time only I don't give a fuck about any female in naruto they are all badly written characters anyway.
it was a simple joke pertaining to what the original comment said get over it.
U lost your brain
@@aizen8308 me?
@@PappiiSensei101 nope Kage3k. I mean that krawberry guy or gay
@Star Killer wrong person my guy
naruto against neji : fate is stupid lol
naruto in the last arc : you're the child of prophecy naruto , it was your fate to be here
That's why he had to die my guy.
Fate was Right
But Naruto in the last arc did nothing but deny the circle of reincarnation and make up with Sasuke, despite their "fate" being to fight to the death. And if you're talking about the frog's prophecy, it was changed twice in one arc, so it's not really a set-in-stone fate marker.
Bratanov I think that was Kishimoto's intention but he didn't convey that well
Considering the frog's prophecy was never for them to "fight to the death" but it was more "you'll fight somebody with op eye abilities"
Like nothing Naruto did necessarily "went against fate" considering the exact same thing happened in one Hashirsma and Madaras battle where they just kissed and madeup and ruled over the village for a while.
By "fight to the death" part I meant the reincarnation of Indra and Ashura part, not the frog's prophecy. The frog's prophecy changed when 1)Jiraya made a choice to send Naruto the message before his death, and 2)When Naruto chose to convince Nagato instead of beating him, after which the frog said that he didn't expect there to be two "children of prophecy".
And your example with Hashirama and Madara doesn't make a lot of sense, since they eventually DID fight to the death, fulfilling the prophecy. It was never stated that their first fight would be the one.
"do you think anyone can become hokage by simply working hard enough?" I never really realized that
"Naruto and Assmunch over here"
14 minutes in and that's how you introduce Sasuke
In naruto speech is genetic
I thought it was a pun on words sasuke hair is a literal duck which many people call him duckbutt so I thought it was that
As he should be
@Darth Revan How is Sasuke written amazingly, lol. He's just a power hungry and bloodthirsty, and half his actions makes zero sense.
@@kjullthedemon it does make sense lol you think madara obito pain had good reasons 🤣 their reasons were more petty compared to sasuke
Did I really just watch all 42 minutes of Naruto getting roasted?
Yes I did, lol.
naruto is a tough main character to follow and neji fuck they killed neji for no reason
@Lionard Kirsch I still think his death was pointless because they're probably hundreds of different ways a writer could have set them up. The story just used the easiest and most dramatic way. Neji died for drama although I have to admit I liked seeing his goofy ghost.
@Lionard Kirsch yeah if anything more characters should have died. It's a war Damn it!
@Lionard Kirsch true but I still like that hospital scene. Having no regrets despite what happen makes Gai the biggest badass in Naruto. But if it was only his leg that was busted couldn't the doctors just amputate the leg and just give him a new one like how Naruto got a new arm?
@UCPqVBnv3A-pdxzpwaHX67xw Neji should have died protecting Lee. Both of them would have sacrificed themselves for the other but Neji was quicker at the draw symbolically winning their rivalry. Also kill off Ino cause I don't care about her don't care about her son and mind control wouldn't help her in the war. I would say Sakura but the series would try to make you feel sorry that she died and I don't want her to get anymore screen time so she can just disappear.
*”I started in Konoha, my father gave me a small loan of the second most powerful tailed demon sealed inside of me”*
China!
"My previous incarnation's fathers gave me a small loan of god-like powers".
Wait. So Naruto is Trump?!
Holy Shit Orange Hokage and Orange President are same
Quite humble beginnings
The major problem with writing like this is that the creators misunderstand the difference between ambition and motivation.
Naturo is extremely ambitious. He puts so much energy into impressing other people. But he lacks any motivation to actually do anything.
The Rinnegan is like when your friend said that his superpower was that he had ALL the superpowers
This but unironically LMFAO
Eric Cartman´s super power when they played Ninjas
Not really. The standard Rinnegan does give some pretty powerful abilities, which could be why only 2 people were shown to unlock it as opposed to being given someone else's eyes, however it's not as if it makes someone omnipotent for example.
Telekinesis, soul steal, summoning, healing, energy absorption, telekinesis, and the asura path basically gives you every other generic superpower if you use it creatively
@@eidolon1407 Well, the Deva path can more accurately be described as control of gravitational force (although the anime does take some liberties with this concept) and experienced Rinnegan users like Nagato have been shown to be able to fly using this path. The Ashura path can only do 2 things; create extra body parts ie arms, extra faces, etc. (to more closely resemble the Ashura of Hindu and Buddhist teachings) and use of traditional weaponry ie blades, explosives, lasers. The Rinnegan does give some generic super powers, invisibility is one such example, however most exist outside of the Ashura path.
Lesson of this video: The more commas on your eyes, the more op you are...
BEHOLD MY TRUE POWER, THE SEMICOLON
Lol!!
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Might Guy and Rock Lee are the most underrated characters in the whole series.
I mean, look at how easy Rock Lee was able to kick Sasuke's ass.
And then look at how Madara cheated, then still got his ass kicked by Might Guy.
If it was not for Guy or Lee, i would've never watched Naruto, for real.
Bruh it woulda been boring if it was a training hungry taijutsu user as the main protagonist. But to each is own I guess
Except for the fact that Lee was almost 16 by the time of Chunnin exams and Sasuke was 13, Naruto was even younger than that. So your true underdog basically bullied some rookies by calling others gifted and putting himself at a pedestal, he was also about to use a forbidden technique on Sasuke to cripple him before the exam, good thing Guy stopped him, but I guess it's alright since Sasuke's fault was he was born in a powerful clan, so he deserves to get bullied by the "true" underdog.
@@monish2011
You made it sound like Sasuke didn't have any "faults" when he met Rock Lee at all.
I do agree with you on one thing, Guy stopped Lee from using the forbidden Taijutsu.
But, "bullied" Sasuke? Come on, gimme a break.
When Sasuke has his full power, look at what he did?
If Itachi did not show up and told him this and that, he would have bullied the Leaf Village as well.
Just remember this, when Lee met Sasuke, Lee basically used only Taijutsu, whereas Naruto had Kurama within him(without even knowing how to use that power properly), and Sasuke had the Sharingan an can use it to copy a lot of moves.
The main point of this video, is to point out how Sasuke and Naruto were so privilleged(Which is so true by the way) with all sorts of power and still got their asses kicked by Uchiha Madara.
Lee only trained so freakin' hard to achieve his power. Naruto and Sasuke basically did nothing. They were gifted with a lot of shit from the very beginning.
Mr.Naruto had Kurama sama to protect him, Mr.Sasuke had his own brother to protect him.
What did Rock Lee have, in case he ran out of Chakra, huh? Might Guy? But Guy did not even have that much Chakra, so what are you trying to say?
That Lee was also gifted and privilleged? Come on, that's not the fact of the entire series.
@Unpopular Opinions how much of the anime have you even watched to make it seem like using one ability is a bad thing like sasuke spamming chidori and his eyes or kakashi spamming the and chidori like get off your soap box bro it doesnt matter at the end of day what they used not to mention naruto knows so much more then just shadow clone jutsu he just uses it to help him out like it was meant to be used
I agree
Small note: Kakashi is also related to a previous hokage, he was the student of Naruto's dad together with Obito and a dead girl. He is also the son of one of the greatest ninja's of the village aside from the hokages.
and naruto's dad is the 4th hokage
Lmao they really got into an incentious power vaccum with that.
Literally all the hokage are connected, sometimes in more ways than one. Leaf village wildin TF out
Kakashi's father would have literally become the 4th hokage had he not ended his life due to certain reasons .Heck he was an even more legendary ninja than the entire sannin . That most certainly says something about .The real reason why kakashi is no way near his father's power whilst having the potential to even eclipse him is simply due to sheer laziness and lack of effort in comparison to someone like might guy who trains day and night to be equal to the likes of kakashi .Had might guy possessed the same potential as kakashi ,he would have become the hokage a decade earlier than kakashi did
IIRC, wasn’t his dad said to be able to curbstomp the sannin even if they teamed up on him?
"His father, Might Dai."
No. His father DID die.
*Seinfeld Theme Plays*
Its funny because its crap
What iiis the deal?
Stop it. Get some help.
Father Did Die? Sure, I'm looking forward to the fifth numbered game in that series.
*The Price Is Right failure fanfare*
"His father, Might Dai"
No, his father DID die.
Oh man ... Best comment !
Dude I literally spit taked reading this.
Neji: You can't change your destiny.
Naruto: No, you're wrong. We can change our own destiny
Later
Neji: *dies while protecting the main family basically fulfilling his destiny*
Naruto: *the chosen child*, *Incarnation of Asura*, *child of the fourth hokage*, and *the child of prophecy*
Neji: Dude... uncool
Naruto really doesn't have the right to speak to Neji about all the "Destiny" stuff😂
@@jamie_jaja4ppl371 same with neji lol
@@zelda5764 Neji was right about everything actually.
I understood that reference
Child of prophecy doesnt mean he is predestined to succeed
"Naruto works hard" goes away 3 years on training with jiraya: slightly bigger rasengan...
Shows how hard he worked to even do that. Talentless kid, no magical eyes having progress.
Exactly ! He didn't even learn the basics of his innate element in those 3 years .What the heck did he even do in these 3 years when you compare the dramatical increase of his own power in such a short timespan . It is ridiculous as to why he was so freaking weak after training with jiraiya for years .He more than likely spent all that time helping jiraiya to write his porn novels and movies
and also the opposite sometimes occurs: he trains for a week, then all of a sudden is stronger than kakashi LMAO.
@@trex511ftyou mean “week” but agreed
you dont understand how hard the rasengan was to learn, and now he has to make it 10x bigger. dumbass
To be fair, he earned Jiraiyas attention by using prostitution. So that part was earned by...hard work?
Jiraiya got hard so it counts as hard work
Sweechie. Naruto thought smart. He foresaw the future of our political climate in the west and made a *recruit difficulty* button (sexy jutsu). Now all he needs to do is join twitch and be a titty streamer. 😁
Not only that but him being minato's son
well naruto came up with reverse harlem jutsu all on his own right??? maybe even sexy jutsu?
Ercushka Kulmetov that is his own jutsu and honestly has never really failed when he needed it. That's quite a jutsu he has when you think about it as it has been proven that even a higher being such as u kygua can be affected by it as it distracts the opponent at the very least. Allowing you to blind side them if you use it right.
Man that Naruto reincarnation storyline just hurt. 15 years of build and it turned out it all means shit.
"Naruto is a hypocrite because he is a child of prophecy and reincarnation of Sage of 6 paths, Naruto lied about Destiny"
--- Naruto, the show and the character, never once denied the existence of Destiny, as a matter of fact it was flat of out told that Destiny does exist, when Neji said one Destiny that everyone shares equally is Death, which is literally a fact which can't be countered, to which Naruto says, "If you don't like your Destiny, you hold the power to change it"
Which quickly follows up by the match referee saying "he never lost his faith in himself and never stopped planning his next move, because he knows having faith in himself has the power to change one's Destiny"
How does any of this translates to "DESTINY DOESN'T EXIST"???
Later if Destiny can be changed or not works well with the addition of Prophecy and reincarnation, I think it's a Genius move, first of alll, a misconception people have is prophecy and reincarnation are Destiny, they are not, Destiny does not include choices, Prophecy said Naruto could've brought peace or destruction, Naruto brought peace because he decided to be a good person when he all the reasons to turn bad, resent and hate the Village leaf for how he treated him, but he didn't Because he chose to see the good in people like Iruka who always believed in him, Reincarnation said Naruto could've revived the cycle of Destiny or end it, Unlike Ashura and Hashirama, who went to kill each other, Naruto holded back and brought peace by ending the cycle, not destruction. In both of these situations Naruto changed his Destiny for the good because he never lost faith in Sasuke and himself, which ties back to him telling Neji "Destiny can be changed" not "Destiny doesn't exist".
@@hydrocy.9165 lmao no. Naruto was the reincarnation of jesus, had it much easier than the others, had a bad childhood so behaved like an irrational fool in battles, was the child of prophecy. It's almost insulting to say neji changed his destiny, any common sense guy knew they had to save the main clan and the fox jesus over themselves, hence prewritten destiny
@@hydrocy.9165 shut up nerd 🤓 🤣
@@phanboichau8498 First know the meaning of Destiny before wasting my time. It's funny how bandwagoners can't even put up any arguments against me.
@ITZ SLEMOE shutup you’re writing entire essays and expecting people to read it 🤦♀️
Neji: everything is decided in the moment you are born.
Naruto: beats him and open his eyes, now Neji learned his lesson.
*Some fights later...
Sasuke achieved in a week the speed that took Rock Lee his entire life to achieve.
This pissed me off so much...
@@isaacm.3535 It's not much better lee taking a year, sasuke was able to do better than naruto and sakura against kakashi because of his intelligence, not because he was fast. Even if he was already really fast, a month is still way too short. I don't even know what point you're trying to make with the haku point, that he can train his chakra control way less than the rest and still find as good results? And then saying he was itachi's little brother after goes against all your previous points. Sasuke learned fast because he was born that way, not through incredibly hard work.
@@isaacm.3535 He had the potential and he had the kekkei genkai is your argument? The two things he is born with? Your mane argument is that he could copy lee's lions barrage by seeing it once, you realise he could only do that because of the sharingan right? He wouldnt be able to copy lions barrage like that without the sharingan. Im willing to believe you and agree with you, but you have to give me a better reason to than he copied lee's barrage by seeing it once, when he could only do that because of the sharingan.
@@isaacm.3535 I'm not saying he didn't work hard, I'm saying that he wouldn't be where he is without the sharingan. I personally don't mind all the powers, but you cant deny that it does take away the sincerity of what the show tries to teach. Yes he worked hard to get to where he was, but not nearly as hard as lee. Getting to the top of sasukes class isnt hard when its full of idiots. What i'm saying is kind of all over the place, but what im trying to say is; yes, sasuke worked hard to get to where he was, but lee worked 100x harder then he did. The only reason sasuke even got to lee's level is because of his sharingan, without it he wouldnt have even made it through the forest. Not to mention sasuke only got to obito level because of itachi basically giving up his life in his fight with sasuke.
@@isaacm.3535 Ok then, explain to me what the show was trying to teach. And quit it with the manga, this video is obviously about the anime, so stop it with the manga.
@@isaacm.3535 I think you've hit the nail on the head there to be honest. After our discussion, i'm questioning whether there is a main theme at all. I guess that means, it fails in some of its teachings, and succeeds in others; one of those failings in my opinion being the theme that hard work always overcomes natural talent/gifts.
My favorite thing is Kiba literally knocked him out for like 5 minutes in the chunin exams but because he’s the main character the ref didn’t react and let him get back up lol
Exactly right he also cheat his fight again Neji without Kurama power that loser would have lost that fight quick.
@@snknero9935Cheat?
@@snknero9935 Cheat, so is it cheating that Neji uses the byakugan and taijutsu techniques which were given to him since birth lol. Naurot bared the burden of hatred, kurama caused more bad for him then good so letting him get a tiny amount of chakra is more like rent.
@@snknero9935 True.
@@snknero9935 neji used his byakugan
That's also cheating
It's funny how Rock Lee was miles above anybody at that tournament. Nobody there stood a chance against him, every other fight after that looked like a kindergarten play.
Whisper quietly there was 2 jinchuriki there
TBF Rock Lee would've actually beaten anyone else in seconds.
You forget Naruto vs Gaara? With giant frogs, giant fox and giant sand monster?
@@pedromendonca1240 Naruto hadn't learned summoning and Gaara didn't need/want to use Shukaku in the first round.
Pretty sure Rock Lee admitted that Neji was better then him
Making the most powerful psycho-killer feel important and then distracting them with paperwork is actually genius.
Not to mention the fucker made a ton of kage level clones during a war, that were hundred of miles apart. But he can’t manage to have one hold a birthday cake while in the same town
@@dtczyk8976 to be fair he passed out which made it go away and there wasnt a world on the line
@@kendallmiller9135 The brother's Marriage was on the line, that's like...twice as important as saving the word.
@@IRmightynoob I've gotta catch up on boruto I've got a wedding to see apparently
Wait nvm I'm an idiot just realised what you meant
Isn't it sad that Lee is actually more hardworking yet he is literally just a comedy relief?
He gets severely nerfed after the Gaara fight and only ever does something one more time in the entire series... it's so sad
lee is generally the best character.
maybe thats why he is the comic relief character in naruto universe. a subtle statement showing that hard work is a joke and in order to make significant impact in life, you need to be destined for greatness, a reincarnation of someone great in the past, and craft the ultimate power known as Talk No Jutsu. screw hard work, babe
@@johans3164 and maybe that's what the series was trying to teach. DUN DUN DUNNNNNN.
lee is what naruto should have been in terms of work ethic
I dislike how Naruto is willing to brush Konoha's wrongdoings under the rug
And he keeps the 2 elders around despite everything wrong they’re responsible for
He wasn’t and that he refused to acknowledge his hatred toward them almost screwed him. He took a trip to a magical place to deal with it.
No wonder everyone hates Naruto, he hogged the only swing in the village smh
G0DSPAGH3T1 Evertone hates naruto? Since when? There is a lot of people like the anime.
@@magnumdoinks5595 it was a joke, i love naruto. When i said everyone i meant everyone in the village not people watching the show
@@magnumdoinks5595 the people in the village dumb cock
@@magnumdoinks5595 WOOOSH
@@magnumdoinks5595 Students, if you look over here, you can see a real life lobotomy patient escapee.
"I don't know much about Naruto"
*Proceeds to explain Naruto and it's lessons in great detail*
I cry when people Say they haven’t seen jojo you sound like a fuckin normie who has shit taste in anime
*its
@@wholesomebandit8532 fuck that anime
@ITS bullzie
I mean. It's more of a commentary of kishimoto's waning writing quality. The power creep was ridiculous by the end of the series
@ITS bullzie
Exactly. Shippuden completely destroyed the message with poor writing. In part 1, power creep was low and jinchuriki, kekkai genkai weren't so op. While they were exclusive sources of power, having one wasnt a requirement to he great. With skill and strategy you could overcome 'empowered' individuals as seen with shikamaru fights, lees fights and even zabuza vs kakashi. In narutos case, kyuubi was a detriment as it was the reason for his poor chakra control. And with naruto being a child, him being the hokage to be acknowledged was believable. And then with haku and then with sasuke you see naruto starting to grow... end of part one was pretty good. The problem is part 2. You would think with narutos new found resolve he would have educated himself. He doesn't really learn. Then kishimoto made naruto a mary sue into having all these abilities and trainers. It would have been more compelling if naruto had to claw to power like kabuto. Naruto started out as an underdog, but he lost that title when kishimoto made him over powered
Yeah, but Naruto had to sit on a swing with sad face.
Tururu
He also worked hard to get to where he is
*sad flute song*
@@crazygamer4260 Naruto won the lottery. Like, five times. And he didn't even buy a ticket. The only time he had to work hard was when he was a sperm swimming to his mother's egg. And even then, you cant be sure.
Dream Chaser I disagree, he still had to work hard, despite all the gifts he got. He had poor chakra contril thanks to the fox, and he wasn't exactly the smartest. He got as far as he did thanks to help from the most important people of the ninja world. For me, what really invalidated all of that was the reincarnation bit, since that was what really made him destined to be great.
Naruto is full of plot-holes that condemned the show to me. Like, everyone during his childhood avoids him for being like the murderer monster itself but when he grows up no obe realizes he always had this power? God damn Kishimoto
All of the parents told their kids to stay away from him. Most, if not all, kids were never taught that he had the 9 tales. The 3rd Hokage made it illegal to talk about it.
@christiannoriega428 That never made sense to me. Hiruzen is such a moron. Didn't do anything about Danzos influence, did nothing to mend the rift with the Uchiha, allowed Orochimaru to leave and become a worse danger. He was such a bum.
@mixkid3362 I feel like that is a more complicated subject that doesn't have a lot of info. We don't really know what Hiruzen did to try to prevent those things. Those situations weren't fully explained. But I'm pretty sure it's not as easy as just firing Danzo. He probably has too much political power or something similar. Otherwise, Minato would have already gotten rid of him before he even died.
Ninjas are supposed to be silent, stealthy and sneaky.
*Naruto wearing a bright orange jumpsuit like an asshat:* BELIEVE IT!
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Lol😂
Naruto is easily one of the most absurd series i've watched. It never stays true to the ideas it's supposed to be representing. No other shonen to my knowledge has this problem.
@The Legend 27 Returns to UA-cam What?
Wow, Neji’s father literally died in the dumbest way possible
Like father, like son
@@JayfroC Bruh you just made my day
@@JayfroC Beat me by three days
@@JayfroC Mans literally forgot his own technique, just like Hinata forgot what Air Palm is
Yeah, they should mobilize the shinobi army to war with Kumo because they ask for it they didn’t really want peace a little bit.
"His political connections give him the best training money can buy." Holy shit.
It's facts though
At least it's realistic
To play a bit of devil's advocate here, his political connection to Tsunade seems to be 100% earned. He debated her, made a wager, then won that wager while simultaneously saving her life and helping her overcome her traumas. He also didn't use any dog power during this process except to gain a few extra hours of training time. The only inherent advantage I see here is that he was introduced by Jiraiya, but Tsunade didn't seem to be swayed very much by that fact. Overall, Naruto's political connection to Tsunade could have been fairly earned by absolutely anybody who was placed at the same dinner table as her.
i mean i dont remember him paying for it so the fact that he got it for free is an absolute steal
@@ClashBluelight He always more or less had political connections to her though. When they first met she clearly stated that he looked as bad/dumb as Jaraia's last apprentice IE his father. The only reason he was sitting across from her at that table and with Jaraia in the first place was because he was a Hokage's son. So it comes full circle.
The problem with Naruto is that it proposes a hypothesis and then continues to prove that hypothesis wrong as the show progresses, but still seems to be under the illusion that it’s proving it right. Yes, hard work was necessary for Naruto to get where he did after a point, but he also couldn’t have done it without a hell of a lot of luck, prime genetics, and political connections he did not solely earn but gained by virtue of his parentage. It’s like when a millionaire’s child calls themself self-made when they only got where they were because they started with their parents’ money and connections. Yes, he did do far more with those things than others might have in his position, and he did suffer plenty in his childhood, but that does not mean his hypothesis and the hypothesis of the entire series was proven wrong through him. It reeks of nepo baby trying to justify how they earned their position by saying they had to work hard for it. Just because you worked hard, doesn’t mean you started on an even playing field with everyone else. You had privileges and advantages others could only dream of and you would not have made it to where you are without them unless you got incredibly, miraculously lucky. That’s the story of Natuto and it’s telling that he doesn’t realize this himself, but Sasuke and Neji have since day one. Naruto didn’t prove Neji wrong in their chunin exam fight, he proved himself wrong and made Neji’s point for him, all while believing he did the opposite. Big face-palm moment right there.
1. Neji talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself.
2. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground.
3. BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto.
4. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to
2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu")
3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent)
4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree.
😊 I totally disagree with his criticism of Naruto being lazy and a hypocrite. In fact, I believe that Naruto has put in a tremendous amount of effort within his capabilities. He seem to have forgotten that Naruto is an orphan who has been living on his own. Have he taken a look at his classmates? Do he think they are putting in more effort than Naruto? What motivates them to work hard? It's because they have parents and siblings to support them in practicing ninjutsu. Do he think Shikamaru invented the Shadow Possession Jutsu on his own? It was his father who guided him. In the show, it's shown that Sasuke's brother would practice shuriken techniques with him and even guided him in the Fireball Jutsu. Other classmates have family members teaching them ninjutsu, like Hinata and Neji training together in their family dojos.
As for calling Naruto lazy and not striving to learn ninjutsu, can you imagine having to study on your own without anyone to encourage or guide you? It's a painful situation. I believe that growing up in a self-motivated and self-learned environment, Naruto has worked relatively hard. Imagine coming home to an empty house and having no one to help you with difficult math problems or no one to supervise your homework. your grades are bound to suffer. Considering Naruto's growth environment with no guidance or training from anyone, isn't it natural that his ninja skills and techniques would appear to be inferior to those of his classmates?. And don't forget, when he was learning the Rasengan, there wasn't a day when he was lazing around. There were times when he practiced until he collapsed in the forest and then woke up to continue training. Does that sound lazy to you?
Furthermore, it's absurd to accuse him of being a hypocrite. Naruto has a strong moral compass. Apart from playing pranks, he hardly ever did anything wrong. He's essentially a good-hearted and kind young man. He's willing to sacrifice himself to protect his friends and the village. In simple terms, if you were in danger and asked for Naruto's help, he would definitely shed blood to save you. How does that make him a hypocrite? He'd only be a hypocrite " IF " he was saving people just for the cash or for the fame.
I believe that Naruto act of saving his friends and the villagers is absolutely selfless and just doing the right thing , If you really insist on repaying him , maybe just treating him to a bowl of ramen would be more than enough...your evidence for calling him a hypocrite because you think he's lazy
Additionally, you seem to criticize Naruto for relying on the Nine-Tails' power. What's wrong with that? As long as he uses it for good deeds, isn't that what matters? For instance, if he saves your life, would you really care if he used the Nine-Tails' power instead of his own abilities? As long as his actions are virtuous, who cares if he relies on the Nine-Tails?
@@夏凝-y3tJesus Christ ,man .The story of Naruto himself is being referred as one that is hypocritical in nature in the video .Not necessarily the character itself regardless of how poorly written it is and the fact that logical and persuasive arguements can be made in favour of Naruto being a hypocrite himself
@@SherlockHolmesb-kp4ru What are you even saying? This guy straight up calls Naruto stupid, lazy, and a hypocritical man-baby at the end of the video 41:40 How can you say it's not necessarily the character himself?
Never ask:
- A woman her age
- A man his salary
- Naruto why his parents' names are blue on Wikipedia
?? I dont get this lol please explain?
@@jeremiemboma I think the joke is that since blue words on wikipedia are clickable links, meaning it leads to a page dedicated entirely to that specific word. So I guess since both of narutos parents turned out to not be complete randoms but very important, elite people of the society and important to the lore of Naruto verse. Therefore wikipedia dedicates entire separate pages to them. So when they appear on a random article, their names are usually highlighted blue. Kinda pointing out the hypocrisy in a meta way.
@@zhin8294Except it's not hypocritical and people trying to be funny meta humor man is why they don't get the series.
@@D-Havoc The likes seem to disagree
@@D-Havocto be fair you have to have a very high iq to understand naruto
*Naruto:* You define your destiny, your destiny does not define you.
*Naruto Shippuden:* Destiny defines everything!
You do realized that destiny still doesn't define everything right? The series even blatantly spells out that naruto and sasuke defied destiny by being the first time indra and ashura overcame thier conflict. It still shows that destiny can be defied.
@@Nunmanji Yeah, I get that, but that doesn't change everything else about the series on how destiny is the one thing that made everything happen in the series. Hard work, the main message of the series, is ultimately made pointless because destiny and natural talent wins out overall.
Nunmanji
naruto being some sort of prophecy child is what prove that destiny and fate are legit
the sage of 6 path literally confirm that when naruto was holding hands with all the tailed beasts
@Nunmanji You can't keep riding the end of the series to handwave away all the other shit that happens.
Alex Kennard Don't let this distract you from the fact that IDGAF what BS eye power Kakashi has
Might Guy (the objectively hardest working person in the series) will always be stronger than Kakashi
That stupid plotline with the mainguy teleporting back to the living world never happened
"I don't know much about naruto"
*goes through every major arc of the series*
The stupidity have no limits 😂
He was right though, he didn't know much
He was being sarcastic…guess that went over your head lol
@@yelhsanosnhoj6602 he tried being sarcastic, but actually tell the truth lol
@@togelz huh? he was playfully contradicting himself because he’s going on to explain how the series does it … duh
The anime got so popular because every kid/teen wants to believe theyre special just like naruto. It was written to trick kids into thinking he did it all with hard work but really hes just ninja jesus
No way there's actual people like you. This comment had to be generated. Naruto is NOT ABOUT HARD WORK BEATS SKILL THIS IS EASILY SHOWN IN GARRA VS LEE. A FIGHT THAT LEE LOOSES. Naruto is way more about forgiveness and forging your own path. Just because Naruto was born with kurama and good levels of chakra means shit. It actually made it harder for Naruto to use his chakra hence why he was always bad at everything in the academy. Because he couldn't use his chakra properly. Don't even get me started about kurama. Kurama goal was to give Naruto so much chakra until the seal would break. For Naruto to master the nine tails beast power took hard work because kurama hated him. So we can sum up kurama was basically a opp in the some seasons of Naruto . And why do you think Naruto want to jiyara? To train his bijju chakra. And the fact that you stupid enough to call him ninja Jesus is so ed. Naruto being a reancarnate js means that his destiny is to kill Sasuke. It does not give him shit. Heck you can even say Naruto had it worse than lee WHICH HE DID. With all this information that I put in your dull brain we can sum up that Naruto did indeed work hard and that Naruto Isnt about hard work beats talent. The gifts you receive don't mean anything all that matters is what you do with the gifts you have. Please please think before you make such a stupid comment
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Pretty much.
Naruto at the beginning: Hard work beats talent, nothing is pre-destined.
Naruto at the end: Everything was pre-destined, Naruto is a demi-god and the reincarnation of the creator of the ninja world.
@Go Time Now no not even One piece makes hella mistakes
@Go Time Now Dont get me wrong i like naruto but i agree with the retcons it has but stop hyping one piece up i might be a little biased when im critising one piece because i slept through half of the episodes but it has hella retcons
@@legacyabyss5228 I don't remember one piece having any retcons
Having potential is not equal to being powerful.
@Go Time Now I don't know about that the battle of marine ford was good in my eyes it's a arc that concludes different from any other arc.
Z's ambition arc made Fishman island pointless? I don't know how a filler can make a canon arc pointless gonna have to disagree on that one too.
I just wanna point out how when Gaara broke Lee's leg and was ABOUT TO KILL HIM, only ONE jonin stepped up to stop the fight, said jonin being Lee's master who was essentially his adoptive dad or something and everyone else was just watching the kid get killed
But when Neji "went overboard" in a fair fight agaisnt the white eyed little princess 5 MFING JONINS INMOBILIZED HIM like they were stopping the assasination of a president
Lol. They only care if you're from an important family. But they really did Lee dirty throughout the story. He could have been such a great character.
They would've been reprimanded by Hashira Hyuga.
Holy shit you are so right. Man and the things they allowed in those chunnin exams with all those teens. Shinobi world sucks lmao
So true man, things like this is what makes me hate the series from the core
it wouldve cause a war among the hyuga, rewatch naruto
I will never understand why Naruto never focused on taijutsu. He can make hundreds of himself. If he was even slightly good at hand to hand combat, no one would stand a chance against him.
He was pretty good actually
Diego David I think he means Kakashi, guy, or lee level
In the academy , naruto’s best grade was in taijutsu which he had a b on so he was already pretty good at it .
I like when he spams shadow clone and almost all of them are just standing in background
Like imagine 1000 Might Guys or Rock Lees
It is like a story where you get to the top leaderboard in a MMORPG claiming to be a free to play player... while being the son of the developer.
1. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to
2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu")
3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent)
4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree.
So jiraiya, kakashi, and hiruzen all had a great relationship with Minato, but completley ignores his orphan son, it also baffles me how hiruzen says that he'll take care of naruto but all he did was put a roof over his head. Like at least put him in a orphan system or some shit. And jyria was so close to minato, he could've raised his son (who was named after a character in one of jyria's books) but no instead he was to busy "researching".
I agree with you, but kakashi or jiraiya taking care of naruto wouldnt make much sense in my opinion, it's out of character, especially for horny jiraiya. He's just a talented ninja who has little to no morals and is always drunk hahaha.
@@potxtoe Kakashi might would've done it and it not be out of character. Going off flashbacks, it's very weird that he didn't do it. It also makes no sense that no one told Naruto who his parents were.
It's almost as if all that backstory was Asspull No Jutsu
I don’t think being in a orphanage would have been good for him. I mean, he was in one when he was a baby. But being in a place run by people who hate/despise you mustn’t have been great for him.
@@CassidyStarke Once all the backstory came out for Naruto, it didn't make *any* sense for people to hate him.
Kurama was sealed into him in secret, so only a few know about it, and he's the son of the most beloved Hokage up until that point.
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It's not like Gaara whose mom died in childbirth and was constantly hurting people, because wasn't the son of a master of sealing techniques and is not of a powerful jinchuuriki host bloodline(Uzumaki can cling to live awhile after their beast is removed, but everyone else dies immediately).
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Naruto doesn't hurt anyone and there's literally no reason to be mean to him or blame him for the incident that incident, especially since Uchiha were also blamed for it
InfernosReaper
I’m also not 100% how people found out. But it’s not that hard to piece together, I mean there were people around still.
I mean the 9 tails attacks the village, 4th and wife fight, 9 tails disappears, all there is left is a baby.
I’m guessing is that most found out but were either afraid to say something, of knew not to.
I mean last 270 episodes of shippuden are just flexing cool eyeballs
Edit: wow thanks for 1,8k likes never got that much before :)
I’m an Uchiha fan and find this to be true 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Oh... You trained for 9999999+ days just to fight me?doesnt matter my eyes are cooler than yours
Yeah like seriously.
The end fight was.
Sasuke: I have cooler red eye
Madara: but I have circle grey!
Sasuke fucking dies.
Naruto: I have cool eye of foxtoad.
Madara: *CIRCLE GRAY*
Naruto fucking dies.
Sasuke and naruto come back with better eyes.
Madara: I have grey circle eye!
Sasuke: I have a combination of your and my own eyes!
Naruto: I have art on my palm!
Madara fucking dies.
Ok Boomer But It's a Cat the end fight was with kaguya tho
@@noblelewis4620 probably the last fight of Madara
Kurama: my chakra.
Naruto: *our chakra*
Naruto: Ill take your entire plot armour
Naruto instaured comunism after becoming Hokage
@Sasuke Is better than you lol, sasuke was the one always getting jealous of naruto. You're a sasuketard
@Sasuke Is better than you same for Sasuke lmao. He was jealous of Naruto
@The Zoom nope, sasuke was jealous of how he defeated Gaara and saved Sakura, he even felt too much jealousy, its one of the reasons why he ledt the village. Naruto only was jealous of Sasuke because he was succesful and praised by everyone.
Minato: "If anything happens to me, look after my son..."
Hiruzen: "I promise..."
Naruto 12 years later, living orphaned on the street and being treated like garbage by pretty much everyone in the village while Hiruzen watches from his cozy mansion.
Naruto did live in an apartment, probably thanks Hiruzen. However, there was definitely no emotional support.
Basically, Naruto suffered a case of "Remember this being a thing?"
Remember when lethal chakra limits were a thing?
Remember when important side characters were a thing?
Remember when completely thought-out strategies were a thing?
Remember when not every problem in the series could be solved with a Rasengan?
Remember when people do not get butthurt about the show thing?
@@malachiscott332
Remember when people wouldnt get butthurt over criticism?
Most of those weren't a thing.
Leonardo A Yeah. I feel that the Rasengan and Chidori were mistakes in the long run. They just became go to problem solvers instead of the rare and difficult techniques they were built up as.
@@fightingmedialounge519, I would say that all but the strategies were a thing, chakra exhaustion definitely was a
That really is a stupid plot point. "Since they got caught stealing a child from a major family in the Hidden Leaf, they demand the Leaf give them the guy who killed the assassin."
Lmao Third Hokage was a Dumb Ass
Alpha Male the guy was responsible for a lot of shit due to his softness
@@bradleysmith6478 exactly the greatest Hokage was the 2nd. Rest all of them are Dumbasses.
@Lionard Kirsch your point is?
@Lionard Kirsch the series as a whole no. But that plot point yes, it's just plain stupid
Throughout the whole series we never learn about Minato's heritage like where did he even come from😂
He just there cuz he needs to be.
@Zanaki Senkai depends on what type of heritage we are talking about.
sakura is a perfect example for a heritage i hope minato's has.
@Zanaki Senkai only good training arc was naruto obtaining sage mode.
kishimoto fault for not explaining any of his powersysteem and skills.
Can't learn about Minato fam, gotta keep Naruto strong, that's all that matters
His heritage was kishimoto. Minato's dad is kishimoto.
I come back to this video every once in a while to see the sheer copium in the comments.
@@diegoseba12 I see you intend to employ the famous “no u” tactic.
Same thing with the dragon ball video right?
Same here. it's always funny.
Shits hilarious when you sort comments by new lmao
Not a naruto fan, so the copium is hilarious
Naruto is the guy that called Obito a "cool guy" just because he wanted to become hokage too. The man that killed his parents and multiple people in a war!!
One of the literal reasons for why the people who were dying around him at that very moment
Obito who's been easily manipulated by a shinobi god and having bad life choices is somehow cool to naruto
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like sasuke fucking sucks let's be real
he isnt the best written but yes he isnt that bad, the reason i hate him is he is the edgy character and makes my blood boil
@Darth Revan nah madara is badass sasuke is an edgy kid
The virgin Sasuke vs the chad Rock Lee
W-where can i get your profile picture ?
@@bluememe4652 is that... Dio-Sama?!
@@jessiechen125 no, its TOM-Sama
@@tlayor9832 I have sinned
btw I'm so excited for p5 royal
@@jessiechen125 there is Tom Brando From part 1 and TOM from part 3
Btw me too!
Naruto part 1: you can achieve anything with hard work
Naruto shippuden: the cooler eyes you have the stronger you are
Boruto: become pay to win
Well he had nine tails in part 1
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 yeah but he chose to ignore the ninetails while trying to use his own chakra he was trying to find his own chakra but the ninetails chakra was too big so it was difficult for him
не спрашивай не спрашивайте, кто он well if it weren’t for that, he couldn’t fight Haku, nor Gaara and Neji. Plus he is the main character, Uzamaki blood, and Jiraiya (a Sanin) training him
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 actually he would do good without kurama he has a great chakra pool due to being an uzumaki without kuramas interference he would be a legit prodigy
@@moyaiman4182 still would take a fat L against neji
Rock Lee is more of an inspiration than Naruto will ever be.
Try again rock Lee is a bum
Facts 👏🏾
@@mathieunjo4344actually Naruto is a bum. He would have been dead in the first arc if not for the Fox
@@Von.NorthEnd you could say the same thing about almost evry charcter lol just stfu dumbass
First thing he says:
"I don't know much about Naruto"
proceeds to explain entire plot
wut?
That's the joke.
Iridium have you ever heard of Sarcasm or a joke XD
Are you serious ?
He doesn’t know anything thing about naruto
no he fucked it so may times (not the jokes obviously) he was right to say he knew nothing
Everyone to sasuke: revenge is NOT the answer
Everyone to shikamaru when asuma died: i support u😍
@Sweet Dreams Exactly. Society is full of hypocrites when it comes to hate and revenge. And people complain about how bad the world is when they are the problems themselves
Narutotards in general are the reason misanthropes exist
Omg i knew i wasn't the only one thinking this
@@unknownbear9811 you're far from alone on this one
Same with Naruto when Jiraya died.
Idk for some reason some part of me wished that sasuke destroyed the hidden leaf they are all a bunch of hypocrites after discriminating uchihas causes so many wars sending children to fight them they consider themselves noble heroes and every other village are shown in a bar light
Naruto to Nagato: "I will bring peace to Hidden Rain."
Fast forward 16 years: *Hidden Rain is in ruins and was used as HQ for new Akatsuki*
gerizzyYMcrew he didnt do anything about hidden rain
gerizzyYMcrew hidden rain was never mentioned again
@gerizzyYMcrew Yep... We can buy peace for 0.99 dollars lmao
@gerizzyYMcrew Oh? So peace can be bought just like that? I guess you bribed your bully(ies) back then to achieve just that...
@gerizzyYMcrew Understandable, have a great day.
Get the brand new 2024 Uzumaki Jincherokee. Four wheel drive, turbo Chakra injection engine, and a ten year powertrain warranty.
I really hoped for a ending where Sasuke and Naruto change the shinobi system but instead we get an overworked hokage and little to no change at all.
Sasuke wasn't fit to be a "changer" of the shinobi world. He's commited many atrocities.
I wanted to see the changes he made in the hidden rain, and if he kept his promise to Nagato
@Badass Batman
What are you...talking about? Are you saying that it's dumb that Orochimaru is just roaming about free in public areas. In which, yes, that is.
they got a railway system and video games
@This Is What Awesome Looks Like
Sasuke attempted to unite the entire world through fear and war. Sounds good on paper, but it doesn't actually pan out.
Naruto was so OP that he used *Talk No Jutsu* so many times without depleting his chakra
True
That's naruto
I know you got that one person in your life that can talk you into anything that's kinda what naruto is
@@missinglinkk8936 Sounds like a scam artist.
Despite being less than 13% of the ninja population, Naruto owns over 50% of all the chakra
I hear pragerU somewhere around here😂
Best 13/50 joke lol
(It's a really dumb argument but it's really good for jokes like this)
@@MFlari PragerU would probably be like “YoU sEe? EvEn tHe JaPaNeSe AgReE WiTh uS!”
Nvm, knowing pragerU, they’d just dance around it to basically say fuck blacks😂
Lmao
@@MFlari How it is a dumb argument? There are serious racial disparities in violent crime.
Naruto fans are angry. Rewatching this anime is boring. Don't get carried away by children's nostalgia
Don't waste your time on that trash , watch hxh or read one piece instead 🙏🙏
@@Mohamad_Fikrimidruto is yaoi series , don't waste your time on that series , a series where protagonist keep sucking his boyfriend d1ck straight for the 700 garbage episodes 🤦💀🙏
Actually true. It has so much fckin flashback and stupid same speeches.
thewiseyounglad keeps sperging in the comments. Then has the audacity to pretend that he isn't an unhinged fanboy.
There is a reason, why there's so many naruto what ifs, the fans are not satisfied with how it ended, even to the point, you can still find people making them and it getting more 500k views easily.
Naruto is level 1 character who starts the game with all top-tier end game gear and his only objective is to level up his character to be able to equip that said gear.
Not quite.
Those weapons are also glitched and shouldn’t drop in the first place. So, no one else could even farm for them.
And then his dad convinced his friend to hand Naruto a leveling guide.
@@frankwest5388 underated
yeah and that gear can also fucking kill him and pretty much almost does many times. He also opts to not use the gear because it can fucking kill him and all his friends.
@steven Almost killed jiraiya and left a scar on his chest, also all ppl around him saw him as a fucking freak monster when he transformed into 9tails, he trained literally arcs trying to overpower it so he wouldn't have to resort to using it.
@Аякс Нгуен Ян he did die lool
"I don't know much about Naruto"- Plague
*Proceeds to tell me more about Naruto than I would have ever hoped to know
*amazing
and make us understand more about writing characters and plot :D
mostly what he said was wrong naruto was an underdog due to him being a dumb ass and having a hard time performing jutsu if im being technical and want to go deep when he was in the academy and titled as an (underdog) the 9 tail fox seal was not as weak as it was once team 7 was formed the seal got weaker through emotions and battles during shippuden they dropped the underdog theme once he received these power ups the theme sort of switched to never give up and follow his will in this video he made some pretty decent points but by the time naruto received sage and the reincarnation powers he was considered a hero already so he started sounded like a dumb ass
^ Naruto didn't deserve half of the shit he got and a lot of the times he was saved by asspulls. Naruto is also not an underdog, the guy was born with a bunch of shit that gave him overpowered abilities.
before team 7 was formed he was an underdog he went from not being able to perform one shadow clone to performing 100+ he went from getting his ass beat by random kids at the academy from whopping jinchuriki asses, and please explain what you mean by he didnt deserve any of the shit he had but to come to conclusions he is a main character if they feel like ass pull and overpowered abilities will make the story better then they will do it if you have a problem simply dont watch the series naruto was a top 3 anime for a very fucking long time so what they did worked not to mention it was big nationally if you feel the need to bitch dont waste your time by watching 500+ EP
Never forget Naruto And Sasuke got New arms after a pointless fight between each other while Guy was left on a wheelchair after his fight with Madara
Sasuke didn't
@Lionard Kirsch so should have madara at that time
Yeah "pointless" fight. It's not like Sasuke was gonna eliminate every world leader and then control the planet through fear over generations to come.
Yeah i kinda mad at it like you could make an arm for this bastard but could not make a leg for the guy who actually buys time for our piece of shit mc to revive from the dead.
@Lionard Kirsch Dude Gai never died, Naruto healed him with his newly attained god powers while he was close to dying.
Another theme, like community > individualism, that they try to portray in naruto is also worthless. In the 4th war, all the nameless ninjas are just fodder for the main villain to destroy lol
Lol even when the named charaters like the kage team up they get smashed my Madara. And by the end it's just Naruto and Sasuke carrying
The best character in Naruto is Might Guy. Everyone else learned how to shoot magic fireballs and shit and this guy only learned how to kick hard. Really hard. Hard enough to almost kill one of the strongest dudes in the series.
would have killed if the guy didn't regen
"I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who had practiced one kick 10,000 times."
- Bruce Lee
This I really wish naruto learned taijustu from guy or gai depending on what dub you like
Also Tenten
Unfortunately Tenten was absolutely irrelevant, so the 'hardwork > talent' theme of the series isn't well conveyed through the character. At least her design is cool, though.
Naruto is basically a dead rich man’s son who says he works hard (which he does), but the inheritance money helps A LOT
eh..
It's even more than that, like Plague says, He's the reincarnation of a christ analog - fitting because even the fan base calls Nardo and Sauce "The super jesus brothers" after the ending of shippuden.
That's a good analysis,he does work hard though, much more than other side characters (except Lee maybe) so him earning the fruits of that is understandable.
@@DarkAuraLord You know how hard it is to he a christ figure? Try having no friends, and even though you're helping everyone, they still resent you. Keep that up for a few decades see how easy and plot armor filled it is. Naruto had no joke the hardest life, and the highest chance of failure, his upbeat attitude in the face of what he was encountering throughout his childhood is a miracle in itself and why he succeeded more than the nine tails and plot armor. So did sasuke his life was a living nightmare. Great pain enables that great destiny by contrast but only if you can turn it into growth which they did, but that isn't like a plot guarantee naruto and sasuke could have failed at any point but didn't because they never gave up not cause of priveledges afforded them.
His father gave him a small loan of 9 million chakra.
Plus the reincarnation of Ninja Jesus's son.
Plus related to three of the other hokage
Plus related to literal royalty
Plus the Uzumaki bloodline
Neji was right about fate determining everything, no matter how much Naruto (both the character and the series) claimed otherwise. He just didn't know Naruto had the most ridiculous pedigree in the entire series
The biggest hypocrisy of the show is saying that destiny does not matter even though the main plot of the show revolves around a prophecy.
Exactly. At the end of the day, Neji was right. Lineage and fate beats effort and hard work.
(Spoilers)They did change destiny though naruto and ass munch both lived even though the prophecy said the reincarnations would be locked in a battle to the death forever so when they both lived at the end they did in fact change their destiny
You're wrong tho they did go against destiny because in the end naruto and sasuke did not kill each other and now work together
SnowyWolborg not at all the series of escalating things and loosing the plot is what ruined the show at the end of the day naruto worked hard he wasn’t destined to work hard or nothing so the point of working hard still stands
It's almost like Kishi killed off Neji just because he pointed out his logic.
5 years later, this still rings good~ Thanks for this im glad for not watched past OG, not worth my time anyway!
imagine not forming your own opnion
@@ErictheConqueror-gy6es Hey narutard I watched both Naruto and shippudden, and shippudden sucks ass
@@storyabout8245you didn't stfu
@@sylvanuskofi1952 Yes I did narutard, cry about it
@@ErictheConqueror-gy6es He shouldn't need to waste hundreds of hours just to confirm that Naruto is indeed a self contradictory mess and a bad joke lol.
This hurts so much, because most of what he said is true.
but the main themes of naruto are not about hard work beating natural talent if natural talent also works hard....naruto has themes of bonds teamwork love pain hate revenge forgiveness loss life giving up dreams family ...its not about hard work
you can make different observations that counter his man just think a little lmao
Ish actually there a lot to counter tbh. But I, and nobody else feels like writing a essay or making a video to counter this 42:12 minute video. Because the video is kinda dumb lol 😂.
If you want to counter this video so bad,go do it no ones stopping you.
Amibo 🤐
“We’re gonna send a hundred ninjas to poke the rest of you losers in the stomach” lmao
unless you send us all of your girls
@@TheXxinsanexX *little girls
“It’ll be ‘tickle me Elmo’ hell on earth for you unless you send us your own little girls.”
I always wondered how far the main house goes. We saw Hinata having a younger sister, so I thought maybe her children will become part of the side branch, while she as the daughter of the HEAD is save. "The head and his kids", however this was not the case with Neji's father who himself was still the son of the head. THEN we see that Neji's father was the brother of the HEIR, just like Hinata's sister is the sister of the HEIR. SO WHY THE FUCK was Neji's father a member of the side branch, too, AND Hinata's sister isn't?
The actual HEAD of the house was still alive when Neji's father had the sign on his head, so don't tell me he only got this after his father died and his brother, Hinata's father became the head. That would actually make sense, but it would still make no sense why Hinata's father was wasting his time training his younger daughter if she would become a side branch member.
That was so fucking confusing and I did not find anyone online asking the same question, some made up some weird answers, about the heir's third birthday or whatever. By that logic Hinata's sister should have the sign on her head SINCE birth, since Hinata was older than her. Some say it had something to do with them being twins. (?)That so many people didn't see the same glaring flaw in this scenario really made me scream "AM I THE LAST SANE PERSON ON EARTH???"
This also shows how stupid it is to put the sign on all but one heir. What if Hinata's father died before he had Hinata? How would his brother become the next head? Neji was a baby, would he become the heir because he had not had a sign yet? And even in Hinata's case, where all children of the head seem to be main branch, what if all three of them died? Then Neji should be next in line, right?
I think Neji's father himself said that Neji had more talent than anyone, but he could not become the heir. Now that is a typical problem in succession and it still does not explain why Hinata's sister is being trained like a main branch member when it was made clear that Hinata was still the heir. Also, shouldn't Hinata and her children now get the mark?
EDIT. In another discussion I've come up with a possibility to make this work: The question is then when was she supposed to receive her mark, since Hinata was already older than her. It was the heir's 3rd birthday, not the side member's 4th birthday. If then, they should have made that decision before Hanabi turned 4.
I have thought about how it was ALWAYS done on the 3rd birthday of the next heir. SO, does that mean Hanabi would have had her mark done one the 3rd birthday of Hinata's first child? Did EVERYONE who was born after the twin's 3rd birthday receive their mark at Hinata's birthday, like 30 years later? That would make some sense, but we only see Neji. Also, what about the toddlers and babies younger than the heir, who were already around? Do they get it that young? Do pregnant women hope their child is born late and had at least 20 more year to live in freedom? Maybe they really wait with everyone younger than 3 until the next heir.
And while you might say, MAYBE only twins get the immediate treatment since they are basically the same, maybe they think with different siblings you can see who is better? Now consider that twins who are identical still can produce vastly different children (HINTHINTHINT) So, it should actually make sense to WAIT with twins, and maybe see how talented their kids are, or even who has the first. Ok that might be a race.
Regardless, it still sucks so to speak, that no one thinks it should be fair to then put the mark on Hinata. This still seems like you can be markfree while not being the heir? Unless her father really was already giving up on the tradition but Neji and Naruto don't act like this. Neji still having a "grudge" would be fine, but I would like to have seen some conflict and turmoils.
Did Hanabi during the exams, never know what is done to side members? Did she not know about her father's brother? Shouldn't she realise what might have happened to her? Or that she was only born because her father made such a decision? Is she afraid what might happen to her sister, now that she is the heir?
And if she already knew during the fight in Shipuuden, they could have made some explanations, and say if Hanabi wins, Hinata is free until the next heir has its 3rd birthday. Or maybe they already think of skipping it with her. And Hanabi before the fight could have some doubts if she wants herself or her sister to be a slave. As should Hinata, it is not just about letting her win the title.
Anyway, Hanabi was introduced as the preferred younger sibling, way before we hear about her and Neji's father being twins, right? They were described as distant cousins of a super large clan. I really think the writer just came up with that later, forgot about the problems Hanabi caused, which is why she isn't really discussed, AND THEN DIDN'T mention her for like 400 chapters. Still I think it could have worked with just a little thought.
Either during the Neji fight, or much later in Shippuuden. Like I said, retcon Hanabi realising stuff about her father's brother, what that meant, etc., regardless if she knew about it during her fight with Hinata. I mean, if she realised there should have been much higher stakes this would also make a good scene. EVEN if that happens 400 chapters later.
High key the leaf village sucks. Even I agree with suksuk leaving
Rock lee is actually narutos version of tenshinhan.
This is so true, it is actually sad. Man i wish they had actual backstory for Tien and had a great story for Dragon Ball Super.
I also wish they actually had a logical and a great story direction for Naruto.
.. Except Japan loves him, using him as secret/extra always and giving him a little spin-off
Rock Lee has 8 gates in his pocket it causes death but like it puts him on par with some. Crazy big players in the naruto verse
I'd say Neji is Naruto's version of Tien. They were both antagonistic geniuses with exceptionally good vision who were forgotten as Sharingans/Saiyans took over.
I hate how accurate this is
The sad thing is every time the hard work seems to pay off, it never did, Guy lost to Madara, Lee lost to Gaara
Guy did surpass kakashi ( so technically handwork did pay off)
@@artherfleck7383 Did you see what Kakashi did at the end? Perfect susano and more importantly he didn't nearly die. Kakashi become the Hokage and Guy is bound to a wheelchair, pay off how???
@@Daivd1111 that was just a temporary buff. And he would've died if he used it for a little longer, he barely used it for like 10 min. Guy earned respect for his actions. He is now one of the best shinobies
@@artherfleck7383 And Guy's is not temporary? He literally got a skill he can use one in his whole life.
@@Daivd1111 yeah it's temporary but he developed those skills by himself , he didn't get it from a external source. That's what sakumo was referring too.
And it did pay off.
So if obito didn't kakashi those eyes. He would've never been stronger then guy
7:23 “the best fighter, so he does all the paperwork”
Perfectly balanced as all things should be
Ninjas are masochists.
For some reason, despite being able to make a billion clones & their ability to transfer experience into him, adult Naruto always seems to be busy with paperwork, so he has no time for his own son.
@@InfernosReaper hahahaah I didn't think about that but yeah that's true.
InfernosReaper Because being Hokage and a father is something that you practise before becoming both.
@@kidathlete Nah, it's just forced drama. Naruto can get the paperwork done in no time, but he's a lazy dick. Naruto could spend time with his family, but doesn't because he's a selfish dick.
Adult Naruto is kind of a piece of crap, apparently. Either that or he's super genre savvy and trying to make his son grow up to be an amazing mage, er, ninja.
"Also there's his piss everywhere" ill never look at those kurama scenes the same again XD
I literally cannot
Someone report naruto for animal abuse
R.I.P fox man
@@awr3v why spoil?
@@awr3v yea but not everyone reads the manga you know
"you can change your own destiny"
-Naruto Uzumaki, jinchuriki of the 9 tails, reincarnation of Ashura Otsutsuki, child of two prophecies, main character, member of clan known for their immense amount of chakra, and son of the 4th Hokage
Most of those things you mentioned are for no reason, like being the reincarnation of Ashura means that he fights Indra's reincarnation for an endless cycle of killing each other blah blah blah stops the destiny with Sasuke blah blah blah changes his destiny. Son of the 4th Hokage but doesn't gain anything from that and not even his abilities. Main character......yes he changes his destiny. Child of two prophecies....2? Host of the 9 tails who when using his chakra would further the fact that it just wanted his body.
@@crispycreamtm7114
What? Dude, I’m seriously trying to understand what you’re saying but I can’t. Your paragraph just looks like a random jumble of words.
“Blah blah blah stops the destiny with Sasuke blah blah blah changes his destiny”
What the hell is this even supposed to mean? People can’t accurately respond to you if you can’t perform basic sentence structure.
@@TA-tx3go It's because I've had to repeat the same thing to people multiple times on here, anyways being an Ashura reincarnation doesn't grant Naruto anything but an endless cycle of hate and death with the Indra's reincarnation. He broke that cycle/destiny with Sasuke and the rest is pretty much self explanatory.
@@crispycreamtm7114
Thanks for explaining. Here’s my rebuttal.
1.) “THE REINCARNATION OF ASURA”
Asura’s plan/destiny for his reincarnations was to battle Indra and end the feud between them.
*Naruto fulfilled that destiny*
2.) “CHILD OF TWO PROPHECIES….2?”
a. Like I said in the first point, the first prophecy/destiny would be that Naruto would fight Indra(Sasuke) again.
*Naruto fulfilled that destiny*
b. The second prophecy/destiny was the one from the Great Toad Sage saying that Naruto would bring a great revolution to the ninja world.
*Naruto fulfilled that destiny*
3.) “SON OF THE 4TH””HOST OF THE 9”
Minato gave half of Kurama to his son, Naruto. Being the host of Kurama granted Naruto unbelievable amounts of chakra and power that came in handy numerous times. Including in his fights against Haku, Gaara, Sasuke, etc. And those instances where before Naruto even gained control over Kurama.
Like a lot of people are saying in other comments, it’s difficult to not see Kishimoto as a hypocrite when he constantly broke his stance on destiny.
I think I got all of your points.
@@TA-tx3go Oh okay I thought you came in a bit too rude or too strong in your first reply but I appreciate the effort in your rebuttal and I apologize for the late response. Don't worry I felt that you did get the points I was trying to make and I must say your arguments were well down.
“I don’t know much about Naruto.”
*Proceeds to dissect Naruto completely and accurately
"I don't know much about Naruto"
"Do you know what the Rinnegan does?!"
He actually misinterpreted it to a level I didn't even think was possible
@@sparker7647nah he’s right abt themes involving hard work. He didn’t talk about the other themes so he’s not wrong.
@@danieljoseph30131. "Hard work trumps talent" was the central theme for the chunin exams and the goal Lee aspires to
2. "Overcoming one's Hatred/Destiny to further understand one another" is the overarching theme of the series as well as something Naruto needed to do(its why he has the infamous "talk no jutsu")
3. Almost every arc in the series had its own theme to follow, but as stated above, the main theme of the series definitely isn't about hard work trumping talent(you would have a better argument for "hard work", but you all get SUPER specific that it NEEDS to trump talent)
4. If you thought the MC was going to follow what is essentially Lee's theme(who LOST against Gaara in the Chunin Exams) when he has the 9 Tails(that he used against Neji that same arc), then we will just have to agree to disagree
1. Neji talks about destiny and how everyone has a predetermined fate. Naruto disagrees with this and explains that destiny shouldn't be used as a crutch to be a jerk, like Neji is when attempting to murder Hinata or talking down to Naruto himself.
2. So was Neji right? Everyone seems to think so, but why? Is it because Naruto is the child of prophecy? Well, it was stated that the child of prophecy would either bring peace to the world OR destroy it. The simple fact that Naruto has both agency and a choice in the outcome already puts Neji's values on shaky ground.
3. BUT! You still disagree with me. Why? Because Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura? Well, that's funny because, as Ashura's reincarnation, Naruto is destined to meet and battle with Indra's reincarnation, Sasuke. Now Ashura did hope that a future incarnation of himself could resolve things peacefully, but his intention doesn't matter as his actions contributed to a cycle that the Sage of Six Paths feared would continue when Sasuke wanted to have his final battle with Naruto.
4. DESTINY ITSELF, the concept Neji spoke about, ordained that Naruto(as Ashura's reincarnation) would do battle with Sasuke(Indra's reincarnation), and continue the cycle of hatred. This path where the two could potentially kill each other might have very well been the catalyst that pushed Naruto to fulfill the evil side of his prophecy in destroying the world(among other things), made even more evident with the treatment he received growing up as a Jinchuriki(that made him hate the world back for a time), and the antagonist that reflected his character(challenging his views, and in some cases, trying to make Naruto fall as low as they did).