I warn you, YOU ARE NOT READY FOR IT. I actually am starting to regret my commitment to buying & playing at least 10hrs of this game before returning it. This is wild & concerning...I thought Dustborn was bad.
Man, I'm reading the comments & most of you are awesome while some of you are taking this way to personally. You need to understand that I am making fun of the game. It's completely legal for now to laugh at things that sound this absurd & I am 1000% certain they did it to sound this absurd. Relax & laugh. Tune in for more tomorrow.
Seriously, I just paid for a month of EA+ so I could play the game and see it for myself but this ... if I'd seen this yesterday I would have saved $16.
This qunari character seems the most problematic, can we just avoid “it”(whatever it is) and dodge this sht? I didn’t like Karlach in BG3, never brought her into my party and just killed her in my other playthroughs. Is it possible here?
"some people make it about themselves" says the character that stopped the conversation to randomly dk pushups and then spend the next ten minutes talking about themselves and why doing pushups is so much better than just saying "oops sorry" lol
Seriously. Literally everyone that i've ever misgendered never freaked out because real humans understand that accidents are... accidental, not hidden insults.
Devs are so self absorbed they're basing it all on things they know, so of course no one can do pushups in this game. Couldn't even double check a reference to animate her form correctly
Dumcan was a hero and a mans man, id like to read fanfic of the world of dragon age ending because of the blight or whatever, since everyone was too focused on their pronouns and gender identity woke nonsense
Even if there was it'd just lead to more lectures and be considered the villain route, and heck, even if not, this just doesn't belong in a game unless it's parody.
This qunari character seems the most problematic, can we just avoid “it”(whatever it is) and dodge this sht? I didn’t like Karlach in BG3, never brought her into my party and just killed her in my other playthroughs. Is it possible here?
@@304enjoyer3 Karlach is awesome, you've got issues now putting that completely unrelated thing you brought up to the side... Unfortunately no, your Companions can leave your group in VeilGuard but they come back later.
The problem is that they made it that you cant. The trans who is behind this said that everyone wants to save the world so even if you make her angry, she will return after that. @304enjoyer3
Bro It's crazy how left field this video is. I recorded my reaction & feedback to the skill up video, it's about an hour long, it will unfortunately only be up tomorrow.
@@GiggaVega Hell yeah man, glad more people are talking about this stuff, the sooner we can do away with the dumb pandering the sooner we can focus on actually engaging narratives. (aka space marine 2, elden ring etc)
Wow its almost like you guys are unable to form your own opinions lmao i dont like this kinda writing either but jeez get an original opinion rather than basing ur whole personality on youtubers you watch
"When some people apologize, they make it all about them," says the woman who apologizes with a distracting, overly physical, attention-grabbing gesture to show how righteous she is.
Isabella in DA2: I am going to steal a holy relic, kill/deceive everyone who stands in my way, and doom this entire place if I have to Isabella in DAV: Sit down, children, I am going to explain why using incorrect pronouns accidently is a no-no
Exacly why they prob lost 70% of there sales , ill never buy that game not even if it's 10$ gotta hope the game just does terrible in sales so other game studios learn from it.
Dont worry, the vast majority of Europe is no different anymore. Aside from the slav countries in Europe, you basically have the same shit going on over her. Welp, anyways. There goes Veilguard for me. I hope their sales will be down in abyss
technically no. Dragon Age takes place in all kinds of different real world inspired cultures(including European) but the part about them sounding American is very weird and incorrect for how this is supposed to be.
1. You cant just say sorry for misgendering 2. You have to earn your sorry by doing pushups or a lecture 3. Dont just shrug it off, listen and be lectured or you must be punished.
@@Super-J120 Yeah but rabid DA fans these days will prefer to claim DA isn't a ''medieval' world, it's actually a fantasy secondary world so therefore 2024 politics can definitely fit right in and since you've no problem with magic and dragons then if you have problems with nonbinary lgtq stuff then you're a r acist nazi trump alt right incel. Something like that.
Is there anyone else here who is really happy they got too see this cutscene, cause I was really going back and forth if I was gonna get this game or not, just too see it for myself, but after seeing this, my mind is made up, I'm not gonna buy this game. Who thought this was good too put in a video game and also I had no idea that was supposed to be isabella cause I never would have recognised her.
Likewise. I will not buy this game after watching this video. I'm already sick of this narrative crap, which generally makes 0 sense in games of this kind. Quotas from morons for morons and about morons
Man, I remember when Bioware dialogue was about the morality of a sterility plague and why destroying the cure was necessary. They used to do really interesting stuff. I miss Wrex and Mordin.
tbh this is nothing compared to da2 when they brought back alistair for a cameo as a drunk and that was literally the whole scene, him being a drunk and leaving, I don't think this game is perfect but the da formula is still right there lol, random cameos of past characters that don't really add anything..
@@deleteitrn2290Thats Dragon Age in a nutshell. The "carryover" was always only ever a pathetic gimick that couldnt mesh with their "new player character every game" style. Mass Effect and Baldurs Gate before it at least had the sense to make it a personal connection. The relationships you made helped define the character better. Dragon Ages pathetic "one and done with worthless cameos down the line" was always bad. In fact this entire series has been crap lets be honest. Origins isnt worth squat given what followed it.
I can picture the writers, sitting working on their laptops completing the script. And towering behind them, with her stare fixed at them, this high calorie woman flaunting a septum ring, cat-eye rim glasses and purple short hair. She is holding a badge which reads "sensitivity expert and HR consultant" and she's waiting for them to make the slightest mistake in their narrative. A wrong word, a bad move, a wrong look, and the writer is done for.
Good question. Just checked steamdb's count, it successfully get over 50k players yesterday. But on a downtrend. I would love to see sales numbers, though. Anyway, the future of profitability seems pretty grim.
Wait a minute, wait a minute DID THEY PUT ISABELLA, MY ISABELLA SHIT TALKIN QUNARI KILLING SEX LOVING ISABELLA IN THIS SHIT??? And used the word "non-binary" in a fucking Dragon Age game?!?!?
Not the first time. In the podcast series a character also asked another character if she had an 'off switch' in a setting that has 0 modern circuitry. The writing is super 2024 American millennial crap.
Swap *mages* for *Trans*.... Anders: You do have an opinion on mages don't you? Isabela: Of course I do. I just don't feel a constant need to bring it up. Or Anders: So you're telling me you have no opinion on the matter? Isabela: None whatsoever! Anders: That can't be true. Isabela: No, I'm afraid I'm really this shallow.
@@SavageDragon999Okay, this line alone is very telling of the attention to detail put into this game. Everything else aside, it just feels like they just wrote whatever they wanted without considering the setting & lore.
Because telling people your sexual preference is celebrated now. Imagine if straight people had a parade to celebrate hetero sex…. Sounds weird right? Cause it is weird. Making your whole being who you f*ck is Insane
This game is not even worth pirating, it's just sad. I'm glad we have so many other great games to play that are not trying to treat their audience as toddlers.
From wikipedia because i'm lazy: In August 2023, BioWare laid off 50 people working on Veilguard and the next Mass Effect game;[40] this included Mary Kirby who was one of the series' original writers and credited with "creating Varric and the Qunari".[41] PC Gamer commented "that's not to say there are no veterans of the good old days left, but you're looking at a very different group of people than the one that made the studio's greatest hits".[41] In October, seven of them sued BioWare for additional compensation, complaining that BioWare's NDAs prevented them from adding their work on Veilguard to their portfolio.[42] What a fun company
@@rpgkillergamer1450 the more I see about this game coming out the bigger the fire gets this thing is gonna flop. I hate wen beloved series gets taken and messed with like if you want to have all this BS gay and woke stuff just make your own game not taking something that's established and loved and trashing it.
Can you see the irony in this right??? They bring back isabella, the most sexualized character in dragon age, and is now some kind of teacher in this woke movement... jesus it makes me sick!!! 10 years waiting for a great game i we get this insult...
Speaking of Jesus...wouldn't it be cool to have a cheat code that allows the Almighty to come down from Heaven to destroy all these weirdos. Talk about God mode! Thunder ,lightning, he'll fire and brimstone. It would be epic!
You apologize when you call someone by the wrong name like Lucy instead of Lily, right? Either because your memory is shit or you've just met this person or whatever. And after saying sorry, you move on with the conversation. It's okay, to err is human. But why, oh why, make such a big deal of it here? "Oh they don't ACTUALLY mean it", "oh they are making about themselves" WHAT? So you instantly paint someone a liar or a drama queen? Why? It just doesn't make sense to me...
Because people do do that maybe not the majority but people do lie about being sorry and it's not just about misgendering someone that's just how they show there sorry in general witch honesty makes some since its a way of doing an action that proves and let's you think about what you did
@alexeychubarov5875 yes so there group apologizes in a different way so it's more meaningful and again it's how that one group does it she doesn't even tell the other group members they have to apologize like that that's just how her groups does
I will never understand why the new heads think that fantasy has to be rooted in today's annoying ass political reality. They completely forgot that games are an escape at this point, that is even more true with damn fantasy games...
Couldn’t agree more. It’s also infected fantasy literature. I now how to fully research books before buying them to make sure it’s not a non-binary propaganda read.
They do it to shove their message in a subliminal way. It’s basically re education disguised in the form of entertainment. They add little things here and there, it’s all a part of the WEF agenda in dumbing down/confusing ppl and distracting them from other real issues that effects everyone’s lives. Not to mention how it also creates division between people. I’m surprised companies like these are still in operation and haven’t gone defunct yet. I wonder what’s keeping them afloat. 🤔 💭 (ESG/DEI) (BLACKROCK/VANGAURD INC)
In a world where computers and the concept of programming i.e 1s and 0s don't exist, the term nonbinary makes no sense in this setting and its really immersion breaking.
Yup. And keep in mind these are the people that demand access to our kids & the government punishes you if you fight back. Stay tuned for my gameplay & my review of the game, I'm getting it tomorrow to trash it legitimately lol 😂 don't worry I'm getting my money back, nothing wasted apart from my time and energy lol
Oof. I'm extremely left-wing and even I think this is terrible writing. Above all, dialogue needs to always feel natural and be written as if it's between real people. Nothing about this is natural. It's awkward, stilted, and comes across as an HR-approved PSA.
Fr. I'm a lesbian, but all this forced LGBT+ stuff is stupid. Other games did it great, but this is just shoving it down our throats with awful writing.
“They make it about them.” Says arguably the most fair-weathered character in Dragon Age history. Also, how come I’ve never heard of this “barve” from the last three games? 🤔
The word "non-binary" in the dialogue (0:53 if you don't wanna slog through the horrible conversation again) itself feels so out of place in a medieval fantasy setting. The whole dialogue is very off-putting.
Not sure but the entire project was was led by a person that calls themselves "Queerosexual Gendermancer" in their twitter bio. I think that pretty much speaks for itself.
Jesus...I genuinely did not think Bioware would go this far and DEI had cut this deep-this is horrendous. Full on activism and social engineering attempts in a AAA videogame
What are you smoking? Barring the context of the dialogue the actual problem is the lack of any feeling to any line everyone voice actor is just reading the lines its so dry and boring
That trans-orcs every conversation is like that. There is her whole questline scenes uploaded to youtube, and 30 mins of those are all about this gender nonsense. You cant even disagree with her, there is 4 choices you can make all the time, but EVERY SINGLE one of them is just patronizing and emotionally supporting her. You cant disagree with he, and you cant say that her mother is correct since she is more traditional. Only support this gender nonsense, no RP choices whatsoever.
The player character seems to always walk in on their companions just as they start talking about GAY stuff. Maybe its just the player character who is a woke-liberal and their companions are just trying hard to be ‘with you’ by noticing you walk in to the room and they are all like “Ermm Im so cool with the gays, here watch me - HARDING LETS GAY KISS”
they are them for a singular known person is nonsense in english but they still did it and you can attempt to put that nonsense in other languages, I know a couple other languages and while it sounds beyond daft I can do the same kind of nonsense.
Maybe the younger millennials who grew up more with the internet. Some of the ones in their 40s are quite good, like Robert Eggers (director/writer of The Witch, The Northman, The Lighthouse, and the upcoming Nosferatu). Or Will Jordan as another example (AKA "The Critical Drinker").
This is cringe. I’m excited for Veilguard, but the word „non-binary“ shouldn’t even exist in Thedas. They’ve done a great job with Hollix in Tevinter Nights. It was never stated that they were non-binary, yet everyone knew. Hell not even words like „gay“ or „lesbian“ exist in Thedas. … they’ve really dropped the ball with Taash.
so... pronouns play a huge part in the story and the overall dragon age lore now? was corypheus a he or a they? how many pushups does the inquisitor owe to the dragon age lore because he- oh sorry, THEY might have called THEM (coryphyanus) a he?
@ It could be 2 mins or 10mins or 10 seconds or 1 hour or more. This scene implies that pronouns are apparently a thing in this universe, and even referred the same way as how people refer to it in the real world. And if you let it, it changes your perspective of the lore that you've been following for the past 15 years. DA:I had something similar but it was done in a subtle way, and you won't hear modern terminology like they/them or non binary, as you shouldn't in a supposedly dark medieval fantasy setting. As a point of comparison, as far as I know, tolkien never had pronouns in his books and the lotr universe, and if for some reason the tv show adds that in, wouldn't that feel too out of place? They might as well make the elves wear neckties and suits and give them automobiles as well.
@@justinnoble6393you do realize there is more than just this and this is entertainment so you should please the public not people that won't buy the game
It goes much further than just SBI. These lunatics are in every major developers and quickly ascend the ranks to push these sort of things. Talented devs that just want make cool games get shut down in they speak out against it
You do realize sweet baby doesn't kick in game studios and force these changes right? They are paid to be there by the devs who is really at fault not some consulting firm
Tbh I couldn't focus on the cringe-worthy dialogue because I was too fixated on that lady pulling the 'barve', but don't tell the fans of the game because they will accuse me of being a straight far-right mysogynist who objectifies women.
Back when I was in college, I had an email discourse with someone in the registrar's office. That person's name was "Bobby", so I referred to them as "mister". Turns out, she was a woman named Bobby. I felt bad, but I said "sorry" and moved on. In a world where nonbinary was normal, misgendering would illicit the same response. The reason why it doesn't is because its not about misgendering. It's about, even for a second, being aligned with the social/political opposition. This is why the humiliation ritual is necessary: for defying the "party"
What the... bro I'm a proponent of treating non-binary people as human beings worth dignity and respect, because inherently they are, just like the rest of us. But games are not 'teachable moments', not pulpits, not soapboxes. There are a million better ways to write this in a fantasy world and they chose the worst one. Trick Weekes does not have an excuse. Even the Wachowski's didn't resort to writing this bad after they came out.
Here is the thing & I agree with you. But they are not trying to reach people that are actually whatever they want to target, they are targeting activists that ruined everything for the LGBT, all the good will & hard work they did over the decades, undone by activists. It's sad. Go watch Will and Harper on Netflix, it's eye opening because they actually showed how receptive normal people were to trans people in real life.
I’m a big proponent on pointing out when someone has a serious mental condition that they want to wear like a badge of honor. Pretending like they’re alright when it’s obviously not the case is an injustice to them and everyone around them.
Now I can see why this game changed its aesthetic from the grim darkness of DAO to a Fortnite look. 30+ year-old players are not the target audience because they cannot indoctrinate them. These sermons and lectures are aimed at indoctrinating the young, that's the sinister reason why the aesthetic is so infantile.
I'll pull a barve as a way to apologize to myself for having preordered this. But who knows, maybe it'll be fun given enough wine. Maybe I'll choke on it.
Can we stop treating "non-binary gender" like it's an actual legitimate thing? And can we also keep ideologically driven modern political social commentary out of my Dragon age?
I’ve been slowly moving away from gaming. I thought I was just growing tired of them with age. I decided one weekend to play some old PS2 games like Jak 2 and The Suffering. I immediately got sucked back. Games these days are just becoming like shitty television shows. Always pumping a “message” No thanks.
Do people sweat from doing 10 pushups? I personally need to do about 30 before I start sweating and I'm not exactly what I'd call "Fit"... She only did 6...
Dude, stop. Trying to virtue signal about your ability to do things on the internet is just about as attractive as the virtue signalling the woke do on the internet. You just end up looking like a joke.
I warn you, YOU ARE NOT READY FOR IT. I actually am starting to regret my commitment to buying & playing at least 10hrs of this game before returning it.
This is wild & concerning...I thought Dustborn was bad.
Man, I'm reading the comments & most of you are awesome while some of you are taking this way to personally.
You need to understand that I am making fun of the game. It's completely legal for now to laugh at things that sound this absurd & I am 1000% certain they did it to sound this absurd.
Relax & laugh.
Tune in for more tomorrow.
Seriously, I just paid for a month of EA+ so I could play the game and see it for myself but this ... if I'd seen this yesterday I would have saved $16.
@@jackotears8692you can still refund it I’m pretty sure
This qunari character seems the most problematic, can we just avoid “it”(whatever it is) and dodge this sht? I didn’t like Karlach in BG3, never brought her into my party and just killed her in my other playthroughs. Is it possible here?
You're a snowflake.
I identify as non-buyer
underrated comment
You and me
Non-buynary
Maker’s Panties!!!
Yall are such over dramatic weenies
"some people make it about themselves" says the character that stopped the conversation to randomly dk pushups and then spend the next ten minutes talking about themselves and why doing pushups is so much better than just saying "oops sorry" lol
highest order gaslighting. and you're supposed to respect that mental illness. not me and never will be me.
Modern writers are nothing if not self-unaware
The irony the writers didn't catch is very amusing
"some people make it about themselves" -> proceeds to self insert self into a story to give the audience a lecture.
Seriously. Literally everyone that i've ever misgendered never freaked out because real humans understand that accidents are... accidental, not hidden insults.
Imagine being in a coma for 10 years and waking up to this shit
Kinda feels that did happen, it came outta nowhere for me.
Suddenly games started being shit with terrible writing and obvious agendas.
This did take firm hold, as in they had control of all the corps, since about 2014/2015.
That's how Stallone's character in Demolition Man must have felt.
"Put me under again! I'm begging you!!"
I like how she didn't even do 10 pushups...
Yes but they them identified as doing 10 😂
Devs are so self absorbed they're basing it all on things they know, so of course no one can do pushups in this game. Couldn't even double check a reference to animate her form correctly
The mocap artist never did any pushup in they/them life...
Subtly based, subconscious misgendering, that's my headcanon
@@jakeconway9956 I imagine the devs who made this scene either failed gym class or argued with anyone who even dared to try and correct their form.
Duncan didn’t die for this
Underrated comment
I 100% agree. 💯
Ah.. im glad he is not here to see this blasphemy
He probably would kill them at first sight and identify them as Darkspawns.
Dumcan was a hero and a mans man, id like to read fanfic of the world of dragon age ending because of the blight or whatever, since everyone was too focused on their pronouns and gender identity woke nonsense
the fact that there's not a single dialogue option to "Not care" or call this a bs is telling
If there was, it'd be my only dialogue of choice...
"I identity as Non-Binary"
"I don't care, I'm trying to save the world"
Even if there was it'd just lead to more lectures and be considered the villain route, and heck, even if not, this just doesn't belong in a game unless it's parody.
This qunari character seems the most problematic, can we just avoid “it”(whatever it is) and dodge this sht? I didn’t like Karlach in BG3, never brought her into my party and just killed her in my other playthroughs. Is it possible here?
@@304enjoyer3 Karlach is awesome, you've got issues now putting that completely unrelated thing you brought up to the side...
Unfortunately no, your Companions can leave your group in VeilGuard but they come back later.
The problem is that they made it that you cant. The trans who is behind this said that everyone wants to save the world so even if you make her angry, she will return after that. @304enjoyer3
"Its like every conversation is based on HR being in the room" -Skillup
Bro It's crazy how left field this video is.
I recorded my reaction & feedback to the skill up video, it's about an hour long, it will unfortunately only be up tomorrow.
@@GiggaVega Hell yeah man, glad more people are talking about this stuff, the sooner we can do away with the dumb pandering the sooner we can focus on actually engaging narratives. (aka space marine 2, elden ring etc)
It's a preview of things to come in all facets of life
The dialogue makes me feel like I’m listening to a discord call with toddlers
Wow its almost like you guys are unable to form your own opinions lmao i dont like this kinda writing either but jeez get an original opinion rather than basing ur whole personality on youtubers you watch
"When some people apologize, they make it all about them," says the woman who apologizes with a distracting, overly physical, attention-grabbing gesture to show how righteous she is.
And then doesn't even do it right either. She said "we do a quick 10", but could only be bothered to do 5.
@wolffe6044 a literal half-ass apology
Isabella in DA2: I am going to steal a holy relic, kill/deceive everyone who stands in my way, and doom this entire place if I have to
Isabella in DAV: Sit down, children, I am going to explain why using incorrect pronouns accidently is a no-no
Wow when you put it that way - it’s so heavy handed
Isabella DA1- Let's have a threesome.
Exacly why they prob lost 70% of there sales , ill never buy that game not even if it's 10$ gotta hope the game just does terrible in sales so other game studios learn from it.
I didn't even realize this was Isabella, She's ugly here.
This dialogue really makes me feel immersed in the DARK MEDIVAL fantasy world of Dragon Age...
yes. when I think of fantasy games that are all about escaping this world and time I think of pronouns and transgender lol
After this dialogue, " they " drink darkspawn blood.
@@purefoldnz3070Nonbinary identities have existed for thousands of years. Pretending it hasn't is just fooling yourself.
Change the games name to Transgender Simulator and it'd prob do better in sales.
It is dark AND a fantasy, that’s for sure... Good god, I pity the poor souls that purchased this crap without knowing how shyte this game is.
Isn’t this supposed to be a European style fantasy world? Yet its inhabitants talk and act like modern day Americans.
Dont worry, the vast majority of Europe is no different anymore. Aside from the slav countries in Europe, you basically have the same shit going on over her.
Welp, anyways. There goes Veilguard for me. I hope their sales will be down in abyss
As a European, if this is supposed to be “European” fantasy, where is all the fucking and being actually normal about sex and nudity?
Yes, they ruin everything
technically no. Dragon Age takes place in all kinds of different real world inspired cultures(including European) but the part about them sounding American is very weird and incorrect for how this is supposed to be.
You all literally complain about anything 😂 this comment section is hilarious.
Dragon age 2 Isabela would throw up at this Isabela
Please tell me this isn't Isabella 🙏🙏🙏
@@laughter4380 unfortunately
@@laughter4380yup this is isabela from da2
I believe Veilbella would even like it
She would...
In Dragon Age 2 Isabela almost started a race war
She did start one, Hawke just finished it.
1. You cant just say sorry for misgendering
2. You have to earn your sorry by doing pushups or a lecture
3. Dont just shrug it off, listen and be lectured or you must be punished.
Modern day struggle session. They hate the demographics that actually game and want to humiliate you.
So if my Mum who is 74 misgenders someone do I have to tell her to do a bunch of pressups now even though she needs her hip replaced?
4. You shouldn't have to say sorry for "misgendering" or "dead naming" anyone in the first place!
She didn’t even misgender anyway. Not her fault the Queernari can’t handle she got a vagina.
@@gladiatorscoops4907 no barve, no dinner.
These people don’t talk like people from a medieval fantasy world
DA rabid fans will roast you and say DA isn't 'medieval' because it is a fantasy world. Lol.
@@SavageDragon999 I mean Origins seemed pretty close to medieval
@@Super-J120 Yeah but rabid DA fans these days will prefer to claim DA isn't a ''medieval' world, it's actually a fantasy secondary world so therefore 2024 politics can definitely fit right in and since you've no problem with magic and dragons then if you have problems with nonbinary lgtq stuff then you're a r acist nazi trump alt right incel. Something like that.
@@Super-J120 it is. doesn't stop them from saying this is 'fantasy with dragons bro why are you mad about xyz modern 2024 political agendas insert'.
They don't even talk like most humans in real life. This is like dialogue from a therapy session or a cheesy PSA.
Is there anyone else here who is really happy they got too see this cutscene, cause I was really going back and forth if I was gonna get this game or not, just too see it for myself, but after seeing this, my mind is made up, I'm not gonna buy this game. Who thought this was good too put in a video game and also I had no idea that was supposed to be isabella cause I never would have recognised her.
just sail the high seas if you want to check it out
This game ain't even worth pirating it
@@Thormundson Agreed. Just find something else to play entirely. Either buy another game or dig into your backlog(steam library).
Personally I’ve been playing BG3, first time play through and currently 47 hours in. The game runs circles around this non-binary game.
Likewise. I will not buy this game after watching this video. I'm already sick of this narrative crap, which generally makes 0 sense in games of this kind. Quotas from morons for morons and about morons
Who is this hr consultant pretending to be Isabella 😢😢😢
Real ones know Isabella would say Knickers and not Panties...
It's too safe.
Man, I remember when Bioware dialogue was about the morality of a sterility plague and why destroying the cure was necessary. They used to do really interesting stuff. I miss Wrex and Mordin.
Mordin died for this???
This is unbelievably stupid.
The game said the same thing about you.
@@PaulS-e3inot surprising. A game for imbeciles.
@@PaulS-e3i pull a barf
@@PaulS-e3ioooooooooooooo
This game is so half assed she only did 5 push ups.
They brought Isabella back …. For this…. This is sacrilege.
tbh this is nothing compared to da2 when they brought back alistair for a cameo as a drunk and that was literally the whole scene, him being a drunk and leaving, I don't think this game is perfect but the da formula is still right there lol, random cameos of past characters that don't really add anything..
Honestly, couldn’t tell it was Isabela before this 🤣
@@deleteitrn2290Thats Dragon Age in a nutshell. The "carryover" was always only ever a pathetic gimick that couldnt mesh with their "new player character every game" style.
Mass Effect and Baldurs Gate before it at least had the sense to make it a personal connection. The relationships you made helped define the character better.
Dragon Ages pathetic "one and done with worthless cameos down the line" was always bad.
In fact this entire series has been crap lets be honest. Origins isnt worth squat given what followed it.
@@jmlaw8888 Dude, Origins doesn't need any sequels. The first one + awakening were perfectly ok
And dressed her in some weird outfit.
I can picture the writers, sitting working on their laptops completing the script. And towering behind them, with her stare fixed at them, this high calorie woman flaunting a septum ring, cat-eye rim glasses and purple short hair. She is holding a badge which reads "sensitivity expert and HR consultant" and she's waiting for them to make the slightest mistake in their narrative. A wrong word, a bad move, a wrong look, and the writer is done for.
Eaten whole alive by her in front of them. The next day she will come to work being even higher in calories
And that same woman is a trans white male incel. IRONY
So will the company, "pull a 'barve'" when this game goes tits up?"
It won’t because all these idiots bought it.
No they'll likely demand millions if nontards repent for not buying this trash
Good question. Just checked steamdb's count, it successfully get over 50k players yesterday. But on a downtrend. I would love to see sales numbers, though. Anyway, the future of profitability seems pretty grim.
So they have a fantasy term for push ups, but non-binary is just non-binary? Wtf
Wait a minute, wait a minute DID THEY PUT ISABELLA, MY ISABELLA SHIT TALKIN QUNARI KILLING SEX LOVING ISABELLA IN THIS SHIT??? And used the word "non-binary" in a fucking Dragon Age game?!?!?
Yes... she's also a Tamassran in this one too.
Not the first time. In the podcast series a character also asked another character if she had an 'off switch' in a setting that has 0 modern circuitry. The writing is super 2024 American millennial crap.
She also got a serious reduction 😂
Swap *mages* for *Trans*....
Anders: You do have an opinion on mages don't you?
Isabela: Of course I do. I just don't feel a constant need to bring it up.
Or
Anders: So you're telling me you have no opinion on the matter?
Isabela: None whatsoever!
Anders: That can't be true.
Isabela: No, I'm afraid I'm really this shallow.
@@SavageDragon999Okay, this line alone is very telling of the attention to detail put into this game. Everything else aside, it just feels like they just wrote whatever they wanted without considering the setting & lore.
Isn't she a greedy thief, a pirate and a literal slave trader? I don't think she's the sort to actually care about other peoples opinions.
Why is identity now about gender and not character?
Because telling people your sexual preference is celebrated now. Imagine if straight people had a parade to celebrate hetero sex…. Sounds weird right? Cause it is weird. Making your whole being who you f*ck is Insane
Because incels think larping as the other sex is a personality
because they don't have any character.
Because gender is observational and character is judgemental.
@@gospelofrye6881what does that even mean?
I'm honestly in shock. This could be the worst scene ive seen in gaming
I agree. It’s worse than that raw-dogging scene in last of us 2
This dialogue isn't fit for human consumption.
The stupidity is infinite
those were the longest two minutes of my life. I cannot believe people pay 60$ to "play" this
its 79.99$ where I am and where Bioware is from... good god
Какое счастье, что у нас её нельзя купить ни за какие деньги 😂
This game is not even worth pirating, it's just sad. I'm glad we have so many other great games to play that are not trying to treat their audience as toddlers.
Oh fuck that was just two minutes!? Felt way longer!
@@sorvin-t4y I dont want their bullshit code on my computer at alllll
It's at this point just plain propaganda, isn't it?
It's always been.
Andromeda doesn't deserve to be insulted like that.
Don't worry, things are about to change
From wikipedia because i'm lazy:
In August 2023, BioWare laid off 50 people working on Veilguard and the next Mass Effect game;[40] this included Mary Kirby who was one of the series' original writers and credited with "creating Varric and the Qunari".[41] PC Gamer commented "that's not to say there are no veterans of the good old days left, but you're looking at a very different group of people than the one that made the studio's greatest hits".[41] In October, seven of them sued BioWare for additional compensation, complaining that BioWare's NDAs prevented them from adding their work on Veilguard to their portfolio.[42]
What a fun company
California Age: Cringeguard
lol I love this. Hilarious. Another good one is Drag Kween Age Vaginaguard.
What did they do to Isabella
I was hoping that’s not her but it is her just why?! Smh 🤦♂️
bruh ive been seeing this scene and didnt realize it was her until reading your comment my heart just dropped 😢
@@krisskross280 im so sorry for that bro I was throughly searching hoping they don’t bring any beloved characters in previous games guess I was wrong
@@rpgkillergamer1450 the more I see about this game coming out the bigger the fire gets this thing is gonna flop. I hate wen beloved series gets taken and messed with like if you want to have all this BS gay and woke stuff just make your own game not taking something that's established and loved and trashing it.
That's not Isabella. That's an agenda.
When you want to show off how nice you are and nobody really cares.
"The WORST SCENE in DRAGON AGE VEILGUARD" the worst scene... for now
It's the absolute worst thing I've seen in the game for the next 10 minutes lol 😆
Just what I imagine conversation would look like in a world-ending medieval fantasy game. For fuck sake.
My Internal dialogue was screaming that I Don't Care. Good fucking god, Bioware. What in the fuck is this?
Can you see the irony in this right??? They bring back isabella, the most sexualized character in dragon age, and is now some kind of teacher in this woke movement... jesus it makes me sick!!! 10 years waiting for a great game i we get this insult...
Ogren is the sexiest character in Dragon Age!
Just like in some schools
Thats isabella!?
@@Thormundson They bring back a sexy teacher to teach about woke?! Or former hottest girl/boy? What are you saying?
Speaking of Jesus...wouldn't it be cool to have a cheat code that allows the Almighty to come down from Heaven to destroy all these weirdos. Talk about God mode! Thunder ,lightning, he'll fire and brimstone. It would be epic!
You apologize when you call someone by the wrong name like Lucy instead of Lily, right? Either because your memory is shit or you've just met this person or whatever. And after saying sorry, you move on with the conversation. It's okay, to err is human. But why, oh why, make such a big deal of it here? "Oh they don't ACTUALLY mean it", "oh they are making about themselves" WHAT? So you instantly paint someone a liar or a drama queen? Why? It just doesn't make sense to me...
Because people do do that maybe not the majority but people do lie about being sorry and it's not just about misgendering someone that's just how they show there sorry in general witch honesty makes some since its a way of doing an action that proves and let's you think about what you did
@@zombie_zach8766 Oh my God! People can lie! What a tragedy...
@alexeychubarov5875 yes so there group apologizes in a different way so it's more meaningful and again it's how that one group does it she doesn't even tell the other group members they have to apologize like that that's just how her groups does
@@zombie_zach8766 they are idiots
@@zombie_zach8766 they are stupid
I will never understand why the new heads think that fantasy has to be rooted in today's annoying ass political reality. They completely forgot that games are an escape at this point, that is even more true with damn fantasy games...
Extremists rely heavily on propaganda. It's what they do best.
Couldn’t agree more. It’s also infected fantasy literature. I now how to fully research books before buying them to make sure it’s not a non-binary propaganda read.
They do it to shove their message in a subliminal way. It’s basically re education disguised in the form of entertainment. They add little things here and there, it’s all a part of the WEF agenda in dumbing down/confusing ppl and distracting them from other real issues that effects everyone’s lives. Not to mention how it also creates division between people. I’m surprised companies like these are still in operation and haven’t gone defunct yet. I wonder what’s keeping them afloat. 🤔 💭 (ESG/DEI) (BLACKROCK/VANGAURD INC)
Wtf is this doing in a dark fantasy set in a Medieval world that is about to be destroyed by two Elven gods? The dialog is atrocious.
In a world where computers and the concept of programming i.e 1s and 0s don't exist, the term nonbinary makes no sense in this setting and its really immersion breaking.
I was wondering why nobody else was thinking this.
I literally cannot believe what I am seeing with my own eyes
This isn't even realistic. We all know women don't apologize.
How dare you assume her gender you bigot
Speak for yourself lol
Hahahaha
@@Kira.wolf98 that was rude. You should apologize to him.
@@ВадимПуджара Yes, this.
I fought the Arishok for someone who does pushups for “misgendering” someone?! I should’ve given Isabella to the Qunari
It's not too late to revisit the old game to correct your mistake now that you have hindsight lol 😂
@ hmm… might be time to dust off the old gaming systems and give that a go!
Remember when people could be put in psych wards?
Yup. And keep in mind these are the people that demand access to our kids & the government punishes you if you fight back.
Stay tuned for my gameplay & my review of the game, I'm getting it tomorrow to trash it legitimately lol 😂 don't worry I'm getting my money back, nothing wasted apart from my time and energy lol
Pepperidge Farm Remembers.
@@GiggaVegaFrightening but true.
These days the psych wards would be more full than the prisons.
i do not like having my ideology chosen for me
Oof. I'm extremely left-wing and even I think this is terrible writing. Above all, dialogue needs to always feel natural and be written as if it's between real people. Nothing about this is natural. It's awkward, stilted, and comes across as an HR-approved PSA.
Because of your terrible ideology we ended up with this in our games. Gtfo of our hobby and take your politics with u.
Fr, Inquisition had a trans character and there wasn't a whole monologue about the character being trans. He just was. This is wild
Fr. I'm a lesbian, but all this forced LGBT+ stuff is stupid. Other games did it great, but this is just shoving it down our throats with awful writing.
It's the extremely left-wing people that made this a reality, and now we all have to bear this trash
Agreed, this is soooo heavy handed what in God's name were they thinking?
First time ever I felt SO uncomfortable watching a videogame cutscene. Woow
“They make it about them.” Says arguably the most fair-weathered character in Dragon Age history. Also, how come I’ve never heard of this “barve” from the last three games? 🤔
The word "non-binary" in the dialogue (0:53 if you don't wanna slog through the horrible conversation again) itself feels so out of place in a medieval fantasy setting. The whole dialogue is very off-putting.
It's like Monty Python dialogue bro 😭
Making 'barf' and counting is so exhausting that she made 5 instead of 10 pushups...
1:41 That makes... absolutely no sense. Who's the Karen that wrote this dialogue?
Not sure but the entire project was was led by a person that calls themselves "Queerosexual Gendermancer" in their twitter bio. I think that pretty much speaks for itself.
Jesus...I genuinely did not think Bioware would go this far and DEI had cut this deep-this is horrendous. Full on activism and social engineering attempts in a AAA videogame
What are you smoking? Barring the context of the dialogue the actual problem is the lack of any feeling to any line everyone voice actor is just reading the lines its so dry and boring
Don’t blame dei for this. This was written by white men lol.
@@alileevil I can't believe you assumed their race and gender...fucking bigot.
@@Dd-fb2tj Yes the entire game was made by White people. You think Blacks would make *** like this? lol. Nah this is purely a white person's fantasy.
@@alileevil gay and trans men look it up
imagine going this hard to force ideology on consumers who just wanted to play a medieval fantasy game
Oh my god, please tell me I can avoid this conversation in the game! Holy shit this is painful!
You have to avoid doing companion quests altogether to avoid this stuff and even then... you still get hit by it...
You can avoid it by not purchasing this shit game.
Don’t buy. Problem solved.
Just buy or play indie game
That trans-orcs every conversation is like that. There is her whole questline scenes uploaded to youtube, and 30 mins of those are all about this gender nonsense. You cant even disagree with her, there is 4 choices you can make all the time, but EVERY SINGLE one of them is just patronizing and emotionally supporting her. You cant disagree with he, and you cant say that her mother is correct since she is more traditional. Only support this gender nonsense, no RP choices whatsoever.
I'm gay and I could bang with the Iron Bull back then, and it was funny, cool romantic...
This here feels just... forced and uncreative...
I am also gay and yeah... like the thumbs says; this isn't inclusion, this is schizofrenic.
I think Varric's fate was far more merciful than Izabela's.
The player character seems to always walk in on their companions just as they start talking about GAY stuff.
Maybe its just the player character who is a woke-liberal and their companions are just trying hard to be ‘with you’ by noticing you walk in to the room and they are all like “Ermm Im so cool with the gays, here watch me - HARDING LETS GAY KISS”
lol that is definitely a possibility. Rook is the DEI officer of the game lol 😂
DA2 Isabella would tell Taash to grow up and take her hurt feelings and move on
Believe it or not, Taash is more likable than Isabella. Because we expect better of that character but the writers have severe Arresters Development.
They did not do my girl Isabella like that
Did you just assume their gender?
REST IN PEACE DRAGON AGE.
😢
You are no longer recognizable to me, even with previous characters. Gutted!
Refunded… bye
Well done. Slop should not be tolerated.
Based
good
Should have never pre-ordered it in the first place, knowing how shit it was gonna be 😂
The fact that you even ordered it, especially with the director that showed itself…
This makes me very uncomfortable. Its a fantasy game why should the gamer be forced to see this instead of actual worldbuilding and lore?
Cringe aside, how will this cutscene work in languages that only have 'she' or 'him'?
It won’t. Crap like this won’t fly well in 🇨🇳 or 🇵🇸 or 🇷🇺 or 🇦🇪
made up neutral pronouns
Those are backwards languages and must be utterly destroyed in the name of inclusion and cultural respect... wait
I don't think they care
they are them for a singular known person is nonsense in english but they still did it and you can attempt to put that nonsense in other languages, I know a couple other languages and while it sounds beyond daft I can do the same kind of nonsense.
I can't imagine paying upwards of $70 for a ROLE PLAYING GAME, where your demeanor, ideology, and speech is chosen for you.
millennials writing in a nutshell
Maybe the younger millennials who grew up more with the internet. Some of the ones in their 40s are quite good, like Robert Eggers (director/writer of The Witch, The Northman, The Lighthouse, and the upcoming Nosferatu). Or Will Jordan as another example (AKA "The Critical Drinker").
Sorry but even we, the late millenials are too old for this shit.
1:34 Are you freaking serious? How can someone lack this much self awareness. Especially if you misgender them.
This is even worse than Dustborn. My god lol, this has to be a parody
This is cringe. I’m excited for Veilguard, but the word „non-binary“ shouldn’t even exist in Thedas.
They’ve done a great job with Hollix in Tevinter Nights. It was never stated that they were non-binary, yet everyone knew.
Hell not even words like „gay“ or „lesbian“ exist in Thedas.
… they’ve really dropped the ball with Taash.
this is beyond cringe, I have no words. What the actual f***k
@@lcicada they could of said Genderless or third gender, Two Spirit, Hijra or even Enby……why did they pick the most out of place
Exactly. It's like when Karlach mentions "test drive" in BG3. This kind of speech style issue really breaks the immersion in the story.
Even taash's dialogue in this scene is so trash. Just short bland a.i replies
so... pronouns play a huge part in the story and the overall dragon age lore now? was corypheus a he or a they? how many pushups does the inquisitor owe to the dragon age lore because he- oh sorry, THEY might have called THEM (coryphyanus) a he?
It's two minutes out of a 50+ hour game, god you people whine more than the trans people you're complaining about.
@ It could be 2 mins or 10mins or 10 seconds or 1 hour or more. This scene implies that pronouns are apparently a thing in this universe, and even referred the same way as how people refer to it in the real world. And if you let it, it changes your perspective of the lore that you've been following for the past 15 years. DA:I had something similar but it was done in a subtle way, and you won't hear modern terminology like they/them or non binary, as you shouldn't in a supposedly dark medieval fantasy setting. As a point of comparison, as far as I know, tolkien never had pronouns in his books and the lotr universe, and if for some reason the tv show adds that in, wouldn't that feel too out of place? They might as well make the elves wear neckties and suits and give them automobiles as well.
@justinnoble6393 lol at you spamming the same comment over and over again. Are you a bot or are you just that triggered?
@@justinnoble6393 Just stop bro, in no possible way you can defend it.
@@justinnoble6393you do realize there is more than just this and this is entertainment so you should please the public not people that won't buy the game
Go woke go broke. I can't wait to see this nonsense sink. I used to like Dragon Age.
Wow. This game looks horrendous 😂
Holy shit this is bad. Sweet baby inc is a cancer
This is far bigger than sweet baby. These ideologues are in charge of the west and its institutions.
It goes much further than just SBI. These lunatics are in every major developers and quickly ascend the ranks to push these sort of things. Talented devs that just want make cool games get shut down in they speak out against it
You do realize sweet baby doesn't kick in game studios and force these changes right? They are paid to be there by the devs who is really at fault not some consulting firm
Tbh I couldn't focus on the cringe-worthy dialogue because I was too fixated on that lady pulling the 'barve', but don't tell the fans of the game because they will accuse me of being a straight far-right mysogynist who objectifies women.
lol underrated comment
The worst part is her model in DA2 was much MUCH better.
@@Burninator353 Wait? This is Isabela?
@@Burninator353Never mind that. Looks like she’s wearing a Halloween costume from a packet
@@Burninator353 I disagree I think this look for hew is one of the Very few things they actually got right in this game she looks good
Back when I was in college, I had an email discourse with someone in the registrar's office. That person's name was "Bobby", so I referred to them as "mister". Turns out, she was a woman named Bobby. I felt bad, but I said "sorry" and moved on.
In a world where nonbinary was normal, misgendering would illicit the same response. The reason why it doesn't is because its not about misgendering. It's about, even for a second, being aligned with the social/political opposition. This is why the humiliation ritual is necessary: for defying the "party"
The character creator from Monster Hunter Wilds alone is more enjoyable than this whole game.
It's so good. It's free 🤣 and this can't muster anything worthwhile.
Dragon Age: Fail Hard
The dev team will be doing the "barve" when everyone identifies is non-BUYnary
Barve to they barf lol. What a stupid word. 😆
What the... bro I'm a proponent of treating non-binary people as human beings worth dignity and respect, because inherently they are, just like the rest of us. But games are not 'teachable moments', not pulpits, not soapboxes. There are a million better ways to write this in a fantasy world and they chose the worst one. Trick Weekes does not have an excuse. Even the Wachowski's didn't resort to writing this bad after they came out.
Here is the thing & I agree with you. But they are not trying to reach people that are actually whatever they want to target, they are targeting activists that ruined everything for the LGBT, all the good will & hard work they did over the decades, undone by activists. It's sad.
Go watch Will and Harper on Netflix, it's eye opening because they actually showed how receptive normal people were to trans people in real life.
I’m a big proponent on pointing out when someone has a serious mental condition that they want to wear like a badge of honor. Pretending like they’re alright when it’s obviously not the case is an injustice to them and everyone around them.
Those push-ups have such bad form.
Now I can see why this game changed its aesthetic from the grim darkness of DAO to a Fortnite look. 30+ year-old players are not the target audience because they cannot indoctrinate them. These sermons and lectures are aimed at indoctrinating the young, that's the sinister reason why the aesthetic is so infantile.
"This is Schizophrenia" I love it, no better way to describe it 🤣
People who actually do fitness are grinding their teeth to dust looking at what they call pushups in this perversion of a once great IP.
I should identify as Non-BUYnary at this point.
So 6 is 10 in girl math when it comes to pushups. Got it.
EA has lost the plot. They have only succeeded in making DEI D,EA,I
It was only 5 lmao
@@rawman44I was giving they them the benefit of the doubt.
Maybe the dark spawn were right
I'll pull a barve as a way to apologize to myself for having preordered this. But who knows, maybe it'll be fun given enough wine. Maybe I'll choke on it.
Can we stop treating "non-binary gender" like it's an actual legitimate thing? And can we also keep ideologically driven modern political social commentary out of my Dragon age?
I'm so sick of people turning fantasy parties into their weird gender queer pansexual polycule fantasy, its so gross.
I think that Bioware should pull a bharv for making this trash fire of a game. Who else agrees?
Lol true. How many Barvs do you think they could do before they pull a barf? 🤢🤮 LoL
I’ve been slowly moving away from gaming. I thought I was just growing tired of them with age. I decided one weekend to play some old PS2 games like Jak 2 and The Suffering. I immediately got sucked back. Games these days are just becoming like shitty television shows. Always pumping a “message” No thanks.
Do people sweat from doing 10 pushups? I personally need to do about 30 before I start sweating and I'm not exactly what I'd call "Fit"...
She only did 6...
Dude, stop. Trying to virtue signal about your ability to do things on the internet is just about as attractive as the virtue signalling the woke do on the internet. You just end up looking like a joke.
the woke are so weak they think 10 push up is enough to get a sweat... i can do 50 and not even feel a thing...
Someday GTA will look like this.
Wait is it actually in the game?
Not having a rook option for “idgaf about your pronouns” or just “idgaf “ is pure virtue signaling
We have a personal story, people!
Nobody wants to hear their stories in real life, so they force us to listen to them in video games lol
@@GiggaVega hey Mein Kampf was a personal story and it got short term desirable results, so why not?