ARIEL SQUARE FOUR Vintage Classic British Bike
Вставка
- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
- ARIEL SQUARE FOUR MK1 Vintage bike
A short ride and description of the bike on the way to squires cafe
Classic vintage bike
Filmed with GoPro Hero 9 media mod and Rode lavalier
Gorgeous bike
I love the picnic hamper on the back - it looks ideal for keeping your bevvies 'air-cooled'!
Cheers 👍😁😊
What a beautiful sounding motorcycle, and fab to look at also!
Hay it's not bad to ride, she's a lovely old lass to go out with
What a super bike , we don`t see many of them over hier on the continent. Thank you
Yes its a loverly bike not so good in hot weather. I'm on the continent at the moment,on my Fjr thanks YB
Once i got over the gear selector being on the wrong side and the shift pattern being reversed i was amazed by how smooth the engine ran and it's truly amazing lack of power.
I am glad i got to experience one BEFORE i thought i should own one.
i guess you not as old as me as the gear lever is on the correct side, and the pattern is right way pre 1974 ish . You soon pick it up
Cracking bike and a joy to see it ridden so well.
thanks,Y/B
A lovely bit of old kit ,well ahead of its time going in the direction british bike manufacturers should have kept going , Nice to see your choice of run to squires ,i was born at newthorpe lived there twenty eight years & the next twenty five at milford. Still call in to squires when i am down that way . Makes me feel all nostalgic !!!
i am at squires regularly, if you se the bike introduce yourself its nice to have a chat about bikes
Nice to see these old bikes in such a good condition! Discussing the drawbacks of the square four construction, in an article it was mentioned that the conrod big ends were only supported on one side, which is a strange construction and of course a weakness. Not mentioned here, but wonder how many engines in percentage had problems with that construction?
I am not to sure about the bigend only supported on one side, its supported on both sides on this model, maybe on the over head cam models.
I came here after (re)watching A Matter of Life and Death. Beautiful prewar bike!
Great video
Loved it well explained and beautiful machine
Thanks for sharing
my pleasure
Another Great video - we are currently videoing a friends 56 Mk2 (if we can get the weather to behave ) - cheers Mike
Love mine , best mod was extra 3 teeth on engine sprocket ? I am almost sure it was engine sprocket, make 's much more relaxed engine', and still pulls well.
The inherent problem with this
Engine Design is the 2 rear cylinders do not receive enough "cool" air . The heat from the front 2 cylinders draft back and prevent
sufficient cooling .
The rear cylinders always overheat and piston rings bind up then the engines seize.
I've not come across any one i know had the rear cylinders seize, not to say it did't happen. The rear cylinders are bored with a bigger clearance in an attempt to elevate the problem. For sure on a hot day at a stand still its not a happy engine, but not a problem for me, i get something else out to ride😊😊 cheers YB
Nice bike!!
Lovely bike. Pleasure to watch
She's like an old lady you've got to treat her nice
I used to work with an old shoe repairer who had one of these when he was courting his missus. Had a chair on it and they went everywhere all over the place, he told me that at night you could see the rear pots glowing red they got that hot.
Never sure if that was a bit of poetic licence though.
The rear cylinders do run hotter, that run a litte extra clearance to cope with the heat. Mine an alloy engine so would not glow in the dark, if the iron engine did i would be surprised. Thanks, YB
Just perfection. Turner's best ever.
I've read a few bits about him been a arse, but he sure came up with some good ideas
I've owned 2, a 48 4g all iron engine telli rigid and a 57 mk2 4 piper, I much prefered the 48, was a smoother ride, yours looks a beauty, alas I no longer own mine. 😢, ps am a Barnsley lad 👍
My mate has the iron engine one and he says it's smooth, mine seem's sooth to me ,but i've not ridden his. I've not managed to obtain a set of low comp pistons, so using pistons from a four piper, which wont help.
Excellent video I thoroughly enjoyed it from start to finish.
Thanks nice to get good feed back👍👍
Beautiful bike👌
the explanation was fine. bike sounds lovely.
you have done a fantastic job.
Its a lovely bike to ride, It's so tractable it's just a pleasure on little back roads, but not if it's real hot day.
Bit of ducting diverting air over rear head might be good
What a lovely machine. It just goes to show you don't need to ride a superbike at a zillion miles an our to enjoy a nice ride
The tank has been chrome plated and it's away for painting, can't wait for it to come back.
Nice. Have a mk1 engine 1951 but need an SC? Frame
building a hot spot into the head-casting was likely to cause trouble, and did. what were they thinking?
still, when running, it was a smooth and compact engine.
their first try was a water cooled 600, i think they should have stuck with it.
It's best left in the garage on a hot day, it's a lovely bike to ride, the torque is massive for a bike of its age, no wounder most ended up with a sidecar.
From your explanation, I get the impression that the new stainless cylinder studs expand at a rate that's closer to that of the aluminum block's thermal expansion - is that correct? Your Ariel is a beautiful example.
Yes that's correct, the 303 studs is much nearer than the R grade studs, most of the studs have a different torque because of the density of the aluminium. If think theirs an explanation on Dragonfly motorcycles web page, although i think that has been superseded by Bruce Longmans, who does the spares for the Ariel club who supply the otto head gaskets. Hope that helps Y/B
I really enjoyed that video, and the bike, it sounds lovely. Was everything that Edward Turner designed a bit of a disaster ? Reading about him in the Triumph factory, if he designed something it had to be done again on the quiet, because he was such a tyrant. Pity he did not design an inline four, they were common enough in cars by then. An inline four of 600cc or 1,000cc and he would have beat the over heating issues and the Japanese by half a century !
Not sure Edward Turner was the only one, if you look at my Matchless silver hawk vid they were even worse. But the pinnacle of engineering in the 1930 I guess
@@yorkshirebiker1293 Yeah, but i think Matchless were being ambitious with that design. People like Val page could get it right. Turner made everything flimsy.
Love explanation , bike sounds good
thanks, glad explanation makes sense😁👌👌👍👍
I don't ride now but have ridden them roads many times in the past. 'If you ever get chance to ride one, jump on it'. Well, I'm only a few miles from you..... 🤣😁 Take care lad, ride safe, Norm.
I try to ride as often as possible , love the local small roads, I am a Fairburn lad originally, Have a look at a couple more of my video's and see if you recognize the road's 👍
@@yorkshirebiker1293 That was a quick reply, thanks. I volunteered at RSPB Fairburn Ings for about 18 years off and on. I'm sure I'll recognise where you are in the vids, Cheers, Norm.
@@drummingriffinMust because of the shot distance. Fairburn was a nice little village when I was a lad, they have put house's on every spare bit of land now ,there were 6 working farm's in the village, there is only Swales on Lumby lane now.
Lovely smooth run, mate. And pretty good explanations, well done.
Thanks a lot!
Just like my 1968 v8 daimler once in top gear just flick overdrive on and off
Nice bike!!! My brother has found himself in position of a 1950 that is a basket case. We need to know more about what is needed to fix the head gasket problem and oiling. What exactly was used and where to obtain the proper parts. I would appreciate any help you could be, thanks in advance.
The information on the cylinder head can be found on Dragonfly motorcycles web site. the Otto gaskets can be bought from the Arial owners club, Bruce Longman deals with the spates for the club and when you buy the gaskets he supply's a instruction sheet, explaining the problems with the head. the stainless studs for the head con be bought from acmestainless.co.uk i made my own from 303 stainless, If you read the recommended literature will explain why. I used a rotary Morgo oil pump, which i think was causing over oiling. Hope this helps if you were in England and i ad you number i could give you a ring and explain far better. YB
@@yorkshirebiker1293 thank you for the information, I will pass this along to my brother. We would just like to get it done right and hopefully trouble free once we get it cleaned out and put back together, thanks again.
@@johnbautch6947 main thing sludge traps on cranks
Subbed from the heart of zany
Hi great video and informative. Can I ask what size jets you ended up with on the Solex? I can’t seem to get mine to run weaker.
Unfortunately I can't remember, I end up making some jets, and mine is still on the rich side. I will have a look in my notes and if I have it I'll let you know.
had a quick look in my notes, and nothing.
Did remember its a bit odd the way you alter the air correction jet, and the main jet, as one affects the other, afraid yo have to do a little reading, as my memory isn't what it was. YB
Thanks for the insight really enjoyed it, it's a beautiful looking bike and sounds like you have got it just where you want it , can I ask , which is a better bike to travel on, comfort , cruise , enjoyment factor etc say 100 mile journey , your beautiful Ariel ? or your Vincent .. ?
Thanks again.
if it was 100 mile definitely the vin it's just effortless for 70 years old. 20 miles round little back lanes it's Sq4, its so flexible. The 850 commando is very good no vibe's,
the G12 it very good, never a minutes trouble, NO ! having said that love all of them.
@@yorkshirebiker1293
Thanks for your reply would love to see them and here them run .
I'm in the south so it's quite a ride for the day , thanks again will take a look at your other bikes.
Regards
Andy.
@@Claude1100 THank's Andy
I had the same problem with a different machine.
Reverse engineer with helicoils problem solved.
I've Heard of people making studs with 1/2 whit
on the end, and still pull them out of the alloy,
the method i used was tried and tested. I can not take credit for it, I am not that smart😊😊
Enjoyed that thanks and learnt something. I like the sqariels, but never owned one. Also like the Sunbeam S7 S8's.
Quite a different design to Brit bikes of that era, any thoughts on the Sunbeam ? Tempted to buy one as there not quite as pricey... Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks Sean.
If the sq4 is well sorted, it's a lovely bike, but be care full, as it's a four there's twice as much as a twin to pay for. As for the Sunbeam I've never owed one , but i under stand not all they are cracked up to be. But it's what you expectations is
Ive have a Matchless G12 much under rated, it's one of my favourites, and the most reliable, but not every bodies cup of tea. Hope that helps
but it's really what you fancy
sweet 🙂
Have you any Yorkshire motorcycles that you could do a video on? Any Panther or Scott would be nice, thank you.
Unfortunately not bur who knows what are lass
will get me for xmas!!! I should be s lucky 👌👌
Hi If your interested I can put you onto a site where you can see the original magazine write ups and pictures of your motorcycle from across europe mthe magazines are in english ,french ,german ,italian and a few of the square four from america ,all are in pdf format and open freely to read
Yes I enjoy a good read, and better still a good picture, Id appreciate that , thanks Pete
Ariel used crappy secondhand aluminum in the production of their bikes to save a few pennies and then they spend pounds to get them fixed
Exactly right
Hard to understand this version of English !
Try goole translate
Very hard to onderstand this accent, sorry
Sorry its the only one I have, its Yorkshire