The term 'milling' comes from the Magic the Gathering Card Millstone which is probably the first card with that effect coming out in 1994 but it was only officially keyworded in 2020
I remember once getting my entire deck banished by the Inferno Tempest combo. Unfortunately for my opponent, he also banished his entire deck, and I had used Dugares the previous turn to draw cards at the cost of skipping my next draw phase.
My opponent Tempested me too and then used that Zombie Doll head thing i forgot it's name (edit: it was necroface) And he banished everything but 7 cards 😂 And he gave me a damn kaiju on top of that because he used it to get the 3000dmg
Needle worm baby. 5 cards was so big back in the day, especially when gy strategies were not great. Triple needle worm when they didn't have Nobleman of CrossFit was a cool 15 cards. Combined with various stall and control cards it was pretty easy to mill back in ye olden times.
6:34 I would say milling spells and traps with Digvorzhak is still good, because while you won't be able to destroy cards on the field, sending to the graveyard solemn cards, lightning storms, impermanences and droplets could be equally disarming for the opponent
@@LordBeau I could see it in an Infinitrack list with Drill, Brutal Dozer, and another level 5 Infinitrack in hand. Use Drill to summon Dozer, Dozer's effect pulls another level 5 from deck, tribute Drill with your other level 5 and there's the rank 5 guy. Not exactly optimal but it's pretty easy and not terribly inconsistent.
Soul levy is absolutely amazing, i often mill 30+ cards with it’s effect, paired with skull invitation, it puts a lot of pressure on your opponent, soul levy + skull invitation and that’s it, keep these 2 cards on the field, it’ll passively win you the game, even if they bring a removal card, it’s going to mill at least 6. Soul levy is really amazing as a niche mill card that can combo with a lot of other niche effects.
Soul Levy in Gravekeeper's with Necrovalley sounds rather scary honestly, having your cards get sent to the graveyard and not being able to use them in anyway
@@alipixiv7122 i was actually expectimg someone to do it, i like seeing people suffer in a duel were they are the reason why they are losing, so go ahead and kill eveyone (also send me the deck once you finish it if you can)
Soul-Absorbing Bone Tower was one of the only 2 cards I've ever physically owned. This was the card that got me into Mayakashi, then Shiranui, then Eldlich, then Vampires, and most recently Zombie World - so essentially this was the card that introduced me into modern Yugioh
I was a little surprised to not see Needle Worm on the list. It is easily better than Warm Worm but I guess it hasn't seen the same success in Duel Links
I think I'd put Morphing Jar #2 as either first or second for this. It's historically been a key piece of mill strats alongside the other Jars & Needle Worm, and it also helps remove problem monsters from the opponent's field.
He doesn't like to use cards that are banned in the TCG too often, because what is the point of calling it good if 1. people know its good and 2. no one can play it anyway?
12:59 a small detail about Mayakashis is that if the opponent destroys a Mayakashi Extra Deck monster, you can SS another one of the lower level from the GY, and that each has an effect when SS'd from the GY For the purposes of milling, Tsuchigumo mills 5 cards on SS from the GY, IIRC - and this also applies with Mezuki/Book of Life/Monster Reborn/Eldlixir uses
Gravekeeper’s Servant will always hold a special place in my heart as part of my first D.D. Deck and also confusing the hell out of my friend who ran Gravekeeper’s (the Archetype)
This is the list I've been waiting for. Winning by deck out is my favorite way to win. It's just so funny to me. Plus that Yugi vs Strings duel left a big impact on me.
I've been playing a mill deck recently, and yeah, it's hilarious to just slowly watch the cards that could help your opponent just keep piling up in the graveyard. "Oh look, there's Nibiru, that would've been helpful! Anyway time to keep proccing Soul-Absorbing Bone Tower!"
Ghostrick Skeleton is a favorite mill card of mine. It's slow, and Ghostricks struggle in the modern day game, but it will forever hold a place in my heart.
I have some list suggestions of you don't mind: Top 10 fusion support cards. Top 10 generic pendulum cards. Top 10 "trap" cards. (Cards that seem good at first glance but aren't really that good. Top 10 parody cards. Top 10 special conditions in the games. More Rescue Rabbit, please.
@@UrLeingod I feel like it would rank low though, since it is a good card, however it is not good in a generic blue-eyes deck. It is good in a blue-eyes deck, but it has to be one that focuses chaos MAX. Do you agree?
The weird thing about Zombie Vampire is that it actually works in a Rikka deck, because Rikka Sheets takes control of an opponent's monster, so it could be a good way to get rid of a trouble monster if you don't have any more in theme options.
I appreciate the respect for Digvorzhak, maybe my favorite xyz monster that I'd say is only completely ignored because 3 level 5s won't happen in most decks
As a Vampire player, dragon link upsets me as the players in my local area bought The Zombie Vampire out from the shops before I could acquire one myself. Petty, I know, but upsetting nonetheless.
My brother is a vampire player too and he was furious that he isn't able to get the boss of his own archetype because meta slaves took it to play it on non-vampire decks. I think if you're dedicated to 1 specific archetype and get it ruined by people that toss aechetyoes around as if they where trash to get certain "engines" and "one-card-combos" you aren't really petty but rather dissapointed
Soul Levy's artwork features doom king balerdroch, an important card in the zombie world strategy. I just wish soul levy could work on the player who uses it as well. I guess there's always needle worm nest.
I remember dueling a mill deck, and I was using an only spell and trap deck, for the memes. They gave me the grinder Golem for the tempest play, and got mad when I told them there were 0 monsters In my decklist. They lost later, due to Final Countdown.
Petition to re-make this list when Mysterune archetype comes out in the TCG. Interested to see how powerful those cards end up being compared to other mill options.
Yeah I feel like it was left off due to being a flip effect monster, which means it's 1) slow, and 2) can be negated if it's destroyed while face-down with the plethora of destruction effects the game has.
Thank you for making this video, I just started playing again after 15 years, to scratch the nostalgia itch. And the meta game in Master Duel is ridiculous! I’m playing stall, stun & banish tactics to slow the game down back to my basically adolescent skill level lol
Funny how this video comes at the same time as the synchro event, especially because of Bone tower on the list. I still fell bad for doing FTK Mill with it during the event so many times. ... I shall not apologize, as a certin secret mission needed to be done ... ... even if it makes me look like some evil person to other players.
I used to have a copy of Gravekeeper's Servant back in the day. I lost it, or traded it away, or got stolen or something. I used to love that card. Included it in every elementary school deck I had. Right away good list. Now Top 10 Legend of Blue Eyes Cards (in today's meta)
Milling is debleating the number of cards in the DECK so any cards that force your opponent to draw is a Mill card. Sure its safer to Mill to the graveyard & even better to remove them from play or Banish as they say today but you don't win by filling your opponent's graveyard with cards, you WIN when your opponent can no longer DRAW. Regardless I'm glad you covered this.
I think its sad that where Yugioh has gone as a game. I'm old school as hell. I really don't care for synchros or XYZs but I can understand them. I have never really played people in person these days or online because of all the new junk today. The pendulum crap ruined it for me. I still daydream that Blue Eyes or Exodia decks are key.
Interesting synergy with soul levy is if you combo it with black garden it forces your opponent to special summon a token to your field, effectively milling 3 on a normal summon, 6 on a special, and giving you tokens for link plays. It can be awkward to work around the attack decrease, and flip summons aren't included, but its definitely at worst stalling your opponent. You can even use pollinosis to use the tokens as a negate akin to solemn judgment without the hefty lp cost.
I think needle worm is a pretty good mill imo only problem is it's a flip effect. If u draw needle needle worm present card and trickster there's 15-16 cards u just milled on 1 turn
Penguin knight vs mill might be the single most powerful counter to a strategy. You don't need to draw or summon penguin knight for it to work just have it in deck with no other cards needed.
@@DjPyro2010 the goal is to not deck out and the consistency of the dog is better than the chance of getting ~30 cards back. He is less of a brick and continually slows down deck out. Penguin is just too unreliable. Almost all decks want graveyard resources too. Resetting all that could set back your win condition.
How about doing "Top 10 Archetypes/Decks that are 1-2 cards away from being competitively viable (at least at locals)"? Like how Volcanics became relatively viable when they got Reload or mostly pure Ice Barriers after they got their new structure deck and they can now actually summon Trishula without having to stall and set up for 2-3 turns. Edit: I don't play competitive yugioh, so I could be completely wrong with my examples.
As good of an idea as it seems, he sadly said that he doesn’t want to make videos about decks/archetypes due to the length of both the editing process and the video (mainly due to having to explain the decks/archetypes). I believe it was said in his livestream clips channel?
number 89: Diablosis the mind hacker has a super cool effect that I really want to try to make work but I don’t have the deck building skills to do so. But I have one in my danger orcust deck because both of those engines have very easy to summon level 7 cards that I can use to summon it. I don’t use it often but it’s kinda nice to banish someone’s Zeus and then banish more cards from their deck.
I used to run a Ghostrick Mill deck that hat decent success. I understand Skeleton technically banishes but it’s definitely the same goal. It’s definitely a stall-style mill but I found it quite effective considering the speed of yugioh makes milling nominally effective.
In the very old school days of Yugioh, some people would play extremely defensive 60 card stall decks with all sorts of cards like the high defense monsters, Needle Worm, Hiro's Shadow Scout, etc and a monster that I believe was called Kirosetai? It was a low attack, low level effect monster with the effect to equip itself to a monster that attacks it and gain Life Points equal to half the equipped monster's attack during your standby phase. It wasn't an INCREDIBLE deck that you couldn't beat, but it was effective and very annoying. Milling cards while regenerating life points to ensure you stall out as long as possible to win by deck out.
Top 10 archetypes/cards that bypass part of their normal summoning conditions. For example: Megalith monsters functioning as ritual spells, Contact Fusion decks like XYZ and Neo-spacian, Gishki Shadow & Vision and Ritual Raven being able to be the entire material for ritual summons of a specific attribute, etc.
No Number 89 Diabolosis the Mind Hacker on the list? It kinda bad, because it's effect can't activate if your opponent doesn't have enough cards in the deck, but the effect is very cool as far as design goes. It punishes pot cards that banish face down, and it's an extra deck monster, so you don't need to build the deck around it or set up for it, you can just keep it as an option if the opponent uses a pot card.
To get Delg the Dark Monarch to the field easily, use cards like Monster Reborn if you put it in the graveyard. And then there's always Cost Down to lower its level by 2.
I don't know what deck i faced on Dueling Nexus but this player was nuts with his mill deck. Probably could take it to a reigions or ycs and top tbh. His turn had more than half my graveyard into the deck. No mystic mine and everything; i didn't recognize any of the cards they used either. One kind of look like a dark world card or some shit but yeah. Cleaned me out with just mill cards but more spells and traps than anything. I think it was one of those good stuff decks; the creative "built from the ground up" centered around a theme a player though up rather than established named archetypes. Like Dragon Link or BASED but for milling instead.
I wish Iron Chain archetype were better, milling was kind of their main purpose, but with the lack of support and focus on that strategy, only Iron Chain Dragon was decent.
Soul absorbing bone tower and mayakashi once milled over 25 cards from My deck in Master duel however. I was running a synchro deck that used junk and stardust monsters. By summoning Stardust assult warrior I was able to summon my junk Blader from my graveyard . Then I banished every junk monster I had in my grave causing Blader to have over 6500 attack. I won
Used to run mill decks and would have cards that banish them so my opponent cants use them. My best was using Exchange of the Spirits then using Hand Destruction. Another were the Needle Worms. Met someone who used Mill + Endymion to get spell cards back. Everyone remember the Dark Synchro Blood Mefist, loved his effect in the anime.
I would have put Ghostrick Skeleton somewhere on here.... since he mills by banishing the cards face-down to ensure that there is no way your opponent can get any advantage from them.
I set up Gravekeepers servant with Banisher, Dimensional Fissure or Macro Cosmos and stall until I can pull off an inferno tempest play. Usually using Lava Golem and Battle Fader. At that point gravekeepers servant cost starts to really hurt.
I've never run a mill deck but I do run a ghostrick deck and I like to have 1 ghostrick skeleton because I love to see people's reaction to it. I once banished 5 of a friend's cards face down all at once and they went "WHAT" so loud lol
I experimenting Delg in DM deck because it can be special summoned by magician navigation. Also banishing monster during opponent's turn is quite nice, tho. Since this card cannot attack during the turn it was summoned so it's not disadvantage.
Lightsworn are an archetype that "mill" your own deck for give more strength to the monsters, and works very good. This is why Lightsworn is one of my favorite archetypes.
Top 10 Neos Alius-like cards. Effect monsters that see plays for everything else (type, attribute, level, etc) except their effect. Probably limit entries that are just super poly targets since there's already a video about that.
Man I used to have a full mill deck when way back when the format was much slower. I used spear cretins on freaking Needle Worm and Trickstar reincarnation chained with Side effects.
The funny part is I had an empty jar for a long time and I rarely used any milling monsters, focusing on morphing jar and book of eclypse for extra draw power for my opponent in his/her endphase when I finished my play with two or few cards on my deck. Of course, the powercreep turned unplayable since you a lot of things changed from that time. Today I probably play a inferno tempest necroface.
Gravekeepers Servant has a second benefit in some of the video games AI Manipulation, the AI will always destroy floodgates before any face down spell and traps or monsters, and Gravekeepers Servant is considered a floodgate, meaning it's prime AI bait especially in older games where MST is limited
8:48 short ruling question; If I borrow a card and my opponent summons the card, is he allowed to use the card I borrowed? Because TECHNICALLY I originally didn't own it.
Not sure what you're trying to ask. The simplest way to use Zombie Vampire is to use Monster Reborn on a monster in your opponent's graveyard to bring out Vampire. Once Vampire leaves the field, the monster you used is sent to their graveyard since it was their card to begin with. It doesn't matter who originally owned the card. As long as you meet the requirements to use the card, you can.
If the question is what I think it is... for the purposes of game mechanics, the "owner" of a card is the player whose Deck or Extra Deck the card started the duel in (except in the case of Tokens, in which case the owner is the player who controlled the card effect that Summoned the Token).
@@djkates1916 Alright, you understood the question. Thanks! Would be funny tho if in the finals of a tournament, someone is like “Oh, I don’t own that card. I borrowed it from my friend for this tournament because I lost my copy :j
needle worm is old school but deserves an honorable mention simply because so few things mill. it's a flip but it does 5. i'm pretty sure a jar also directly mills, i think it's dimension jar.
Similar video idea if u havent done it do mill your own deck with the theme in mind to easily summon a boss monster. For example sticking magical merchant into a spell caster heavy deck to easily bring out the extremely powerful board wiper quintet Magician
I'd wish to see a top 10 Rank-Up XYZ monsters (or CXYZ/Number C). Even though XYZs aren't as good as they once were, it still is one of my favorite mechanics.
Thats a great top! Could you also make a top 10 mill cards that mill your own deck to the graveyard? And also a top 10 cards that give you the most advantage by milling them from the deck to the graveyard?
Outside of like Grass being an obvious #1 chances are Chaos Ruler is #2 since that card is beyond insane at generating value in decks that can play it.
I see that you've improved your craft. I love these new backgrounds! Anyway, new-video idea: "Top 10 Monsters That Would Be Useless if Their Best Effects had Hard Once-Per-Turns in YuGiOh." Exclude banned monsters, of course! If Monster X has multiple "best" effects, then they all share a hard once-per-turn (or "You can only use 1 ["Monster X"] effect per turn, and only once that turn").
Damn you read my deck. Once I try Soul Absorbing Mayakashi combo. Its pretty good as long as you not interrupted, which makes non consistency kinda high. Since for example, Nibiru or Mystic Mine exist, or many cards can negates or destroy it especially if you going second. So I just leave that deck
You should do a top 10 on cards with very limited (or no) synergy with its own deck or a top 10 on bad (or niche) cards from good archetypes that saw competitive play at some point.
Iron chain was based around burn and mill. It is really obscure and what I know of has never seen competitive success. But it is none the less milling.
mill hasn't been viable for such a long time, even casually, and honestly I miss it. there hasn't been a strategy that's felt quite like it ever since. The newly announced Mysterune cards that all banish cards from the top of your opponents deck rather than sending them to the grave gives me hope though, maybe this new form of banishing mill might become something that exists outside of that one specific archtype. woe betide anyone who tries to play that strategy against a thunder dragon player though.
I mean...Milling/drawing decks could be a good rogue strategy.....since many decks are based around building floodgates. so using a deck that focused on making your opponent draw or mill could be effective....so long as you have cards to use to bait out negates
To me the weirdest thing is pot of desire. It basically produce 1/3 of the mill wincon and all the mill player has to do is to not negate it. The fact that such a card can be obiquitus whitout people going "ehy, i can deck out very easily againist this." Prove how underpowered the current mill cards are compared to any other wincon.
Gren Maju/Macro Monarch and Shiranui decks could also turn the tables on Mysterunes pretty easily given the right conditions, since they rely on cards that benefit from being banished.
I think the inherent problem with mill is that either you're playing a FTK-ish combo like empty jar, in which case your wincon could be literally anything, it's just another Poker Hand deck... Or you're playing to stall and mill them out, in which case you haven't impacted the gamestate until they get so low on cards they don't have targets in deck for searchers anymore, and against most decks you've even helped them set up.
“Top 10 Best Support Cards,…If Only They Were in Better Archetypes” This would be the best support cards, with amazing support power, that happen to be tied to archetypes which just can’t do anything with it. For example, Expressroid can get you a +2 from the GY, and some archetypes would absolutely love this, but Roids can do little to nothing with it.
Surprised Diablosis the Mind Hacker didn't make the list. The ability to banish cards face-down is incredibly powerful and it even mills more the more cards are banished face-down. Its biggest downside is its Rank because trying to make a Rank 7 in a mill deck is really difficult.
5:44 3200 ATK as a Rank 5… Beefy is somewhat of an understatement, Especially when you consider Blue Eyes has 200 less attack as a Level 8. Is this one of those XYZ monsters they roided up because Synchro’s were still getting huge representation when XYZ first came out? Why does this thing have so much attack for its rank?
It's a shame that some of this list has a strong sense of "Cards that happen to have mill on them." More than "Cards for winning by mill.". Shows how few options the mechanic has.
@@randalica92 I had a Gitrog deck, but the one I'm making is actually Grolnok. I've got a Bunch of commander decks though, I've even made one using a proxy Champions of Archery, one of the Heroes of the Realm legends.
i had twice my deck fully banished by the opponent in master duel, fortunately i have Flower Cardian Lightshower and the other match i have Flower Cardian Moonflowerviewing(with effect used) and Lightflare on the field. so i skip my Draw Phase, continue playing with empty deck and deal the finishing blow. and both matches i start 1st turn so im considered lucky here.
The term 'milling' comes from the Magic the Gathering Card Millstone which is probably the first card with that effect coming out in 1994 but it was only officially keyworded in 2020
I didn't know this, very cool information. Thank you!
I always wondered why it's called milling
Thank you
Wait officially in 2020 why that late
The pandemic gave them time to work out some of the kinks in the game and review stuff like keywords.
Yep
Top 10 Fusion Monsters that can Special Summon themselves from the Extra Deck without using Polymerization or any other Fusion Spell/Trap Cards
So basically top ten cyber dragons lol
@@devin76392 You forget ABC-Buster Dragon.
@@MSTGamingTV Not to mention Gladiator Beast Gyzarus
I believe that's called contact fusion
@@1241251251 not to mention thunder dragons
I remember once getting my entire deck banished by the Inferno Tempest combo. Unfortunately for my opponent, he also banished his entire deck, and I had used Dugares the previous turn to draw cards at the cost of skipping my next draw phase.
The ultimate counter to losing your entire Deck: just don't draw.
My opponent Tempested me too and then used that Zombie Doll head thing i forgot it's name (edit: it was necroface)
And he banished everything but 7 cards 😂
And he gave me a damn kaiju on top of that because he used it to get the 3000dmg
i had an opponent use inferno tempest and necro face to wipe out both our decks. shame that they did it during my turn and couldn't draw
That's really lucky
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Needle worm baby. 5 cards was so big back in the day, especially when gy strategies were not great. Triple needle worm when they didn't have Nobleman of CrossFit was a cool 15 cards. Combined with various stall and control cards it was pretty easy to mill back in ye olden times.
The old reliable needle worm are always 3 in my mill deck back in the day.
Combo three of them there Needle Worm with 3 Hiro's Shadow Scout and that's potentially half your opponent's deck gone with 6 cards. >:D
Ah, I see you are a duelist of culture as well...
I was waiting for this one and disappointed that it wasn't mentioned.
Now I'm reminded of the grossness of PACMAN and how much I miss YuGiOh4RealMen
6:34 I would say milling spells and traps with Digvorzhak is still good, because while you won't be able to destroy cards on the field, sending to the graveyard solemn cards, lightning storms, impermanences and droplets could be equally disarming for the opponent
the main issue with digvorzhak is that it's rank 5 and the only playable rank 5 deck needs 2 machine dupes to get 3 level 5 monsters
@@LordBeau I could see it in an Infinitrack list with Drill, Brutal Dozer, and another level 5 Infinitrack in hand. Use Drill to summon Dozer, Dozer's effect pulls another level 5 from deck, tribute Drill with your other level 5 and there's the rank 5 guy. Not exactly optimal but it's pretty easy and not terribly inconsistent.
I was searching yesterday to see if you made this video yet, and now here it is! Thanks for the list!
Soul levy is absolutely amazing, i often mill 30+ cards with it’s effect, paired with skull invitation, it puts a lot of pressure on your opponent, soul levy + skull invitation and that’s it, keep these 2 cards on the field, it’ll passively win you the game, even if they bring a removal card, it’s going to mill at least 6.
Soul levy is really amazing as a niche mill card that can combo with a lot of other niche effects.
Soul Levy in Gravekeeper's with Necrovalley sounds rather scary honestly, having your cards get sent to the graveyard and not being able to use them in anyway
@@armandomendoza7371 ....!!!
You should’ve never given me this knowledge, now many will suffer.😈
@@alipixiv7122 i was actually expectimg someone to do it, i like seeing people suffer in a duel were they are the reason why they are losing, so go ahead and kill eveyone (also send me the deck once you finish it if you can)
Soul-Absorbing Bone Tower was one of the only 2 cards I've ever physically owned. This was the card that got me into Mayakashi, then Shiranui, then Eldlich, then Vampires, and most recently Zombie World - so essentially this was the card that introduced me into modern Yugioh
Number 11: Voltic Bicorn
I was a little surprised to not see Needle Worm on the list. It is easily better than Warm Worm but I guess it hasn't seen the same success in Duel Links
Because with Needle Worm you took much risk too
Don't forget that there is a new archetype of quick play spell cards that banish the top cards of your opponents deck.
Mysterune is the name and yes its main win con is emptying opp deck. Retaliating "C" is their kryptonite.
Oh God, that deck was annoying.
I eagerly await trying out that deck
@@ryuuohdeltaplus7936 same
@@ryuuohdeltaplus7936 try a blue-black or blue-green milldeck In MTG if you really like to mill 300 cards In one turn xD.
I think I'd put Morphing Jar #2 as either first or second for this. It's historically been a key piece of mill strats alongside the other Jars & Needle Worm, and it also helps remove problem monsters from the opponent's field.
He doesn't like to use cards that are banned in the TCG too often, because what is the point of calling it good if 1. people know its good and 2. no one can play it anyway?
12:59 a small detail about Mayakashis is that if the opponent destroys a Mayakashi Extra Deck monster, you can SS another one of the lower level from the GY, and that each has an effect when SS'd from the GY
For the purposes of milling, Tsuchigumo mills 5 cards on SS from the GY, IIRC - and this also applies with Mezuki/Book of Life/Monster Reborn/Eldlixir uses
Gravekeeper’s Servant will always hold a special place in my heart as part of my first D.D. Deck and also confusing the hell out of my friend who ran Gravekeeper’s (the Archetype)
This is the list I've been waiting for. Winning by deck out is my favorite way to win. It's just so funny to me. Plus that Yugi vs Strings duel left a big impact on me.
I've been playing a mill deck recently, and yeah, it's hilarious to just slowly watch the cards that could help your opponent just keep piling up in the graveyard.
"Oh look, there's Nibiru, that would've been helpful! Anyway time to keep proccing Soul-Absorbing Bone Tower!"
My milling love comes from Bakura vs Little Yugi!
@@LMNtaLXicon When was that again?
Do you mean the duel in the Battle City quarter finals?
@@xCorvus7x Season 5, episodes 215 to 218. The final duel between Little Yugi and Bakura's Undead Lock deck!
@@LMNtaLXicon Oh, you mean the one in the world of memories.
Ghostrick Skeleton is a favorite mill card of mine. It's slow, and Ghostricks struggle in the modern day game, but it will forever hold a place in my heart.
I have some list suggestions of you don't mind:
Top 10 fusion support cards.
Top 10 generic pendulum cards.
Top 10 "trap" cards. (Cards that seem good at first glance but aren't really that good.
Top 10 parody cards.
Top 10 special conditions in the games.
More Rescue Rabbit, please.
I like the top 10 "trap" cards, since he tries to cater to newer players
@@Vam246 "Blue-Eyes Chaos MAX Dragon" would definitely rate high on that list.
@@UrLeingod I feel like it would rank low though, since it is a good card, however it is not good in a generic blue-eyes deck. It is good in a blue-eyes deck, but it has to be one that focuses chaos MAX. Do you agree?
The weird thing about Zombie Vampire is that it actually works in a Rikka deck, because Rikka Sheets takes control of an opponent's monster, so it could be a good way to get rid of a trouble monster if you don't have any more in theme options.
I appreciate the respect for Digvorzhak, maybe my favorite xyz monster that I'd say is only completely ignored because 3 level 5s won't happen in most decks
As a Vampire player, dragon link upsets me as the players in my local area bought The Zombie Vampire out from the shops before I could acquire one myself. Petty, I know, but upsetting nonetheless.
My brother is a vampire player too and he was furious that he isn't able to get the boss of his own archetype because meta slaves took it to play it on non-vampire decks. I think if you're dedicated to 1 specific archetype and get it ruined by people that toss aechetyoes around as if they where trash to get certain "engines" and "one-card-combos" you aren't really petty but rather dissapointed
Soul Levy's artwork features doom king balerdroch, an important card in the zombie world strategy. I just wish soul levy could work on the player who uses it as well. I guess there's always needle worm nest.
Soul Levy also has the Soul-absorbing bone tower in the background
@@M3G4T3RR4 that too. I just wished it supported both cards. In my opinion it only supports one.
I remember dueling a mill deck, and I was using an only spell and trap deck, for the memes. They gave me the grinder Golem for the tempest play, and got mad when I told them there were 0 monsters In my decklist. They lost later, due to Final Countdown.
Petition to re-make this list when Mysterune archetype comes out in the TCG.
Interested to see how powerful those cards end up being compared to other mill options.
Thanks TheDuelLogs. With the brand new Tearalaments Archetype & Izishu support, this video couldn't have been uploaded in a better timing.
Missed a big one here, Needle worm should absolutely be on this list. Classic to boot
Well there's needle worm that sends the top 5 cards to your opponents deck to the graveyard that's a flip effect
Probably because it's a FLIP and not "destroyed by any means" like Warm Worm.
Yeah I feel like it was left off due to being a flip effect monster, which means it's 1) slow, and 2) can be negated if it's destroyed while face-down with the plethora of destruction effects the game has.
Weird how Warm Worm was originally printed to be the weaker version of Needle Worm
I love watching your videos to relax and fall asleep to!
Hearing you talk about Bone Tower was cool because I know you were talking from experience from your Duel logs Duel Logs channel.
Thank you for making this video, I just started playing again after 15 years, to scratch the nostalgia itch. And the meta game in Master Duel is ridiculous! I’m playing stall, stun & banish tactics to slow the game down back to my basically adolescent skill level lol
Funny how this video comes at the same time as the synchro event, especially because of Bone tower on the list.
I still fell bad for doing FTK Mill with it during the event so many times.
... I shall not apologize, as a certin secret mission needed to be done ...
... even if it makes me look like some evil person to other players.
I used to have a copy of Gravekeeper's Servant back in the day. I lost it, or traded it away, or got stolen or something. I used to love that card. Included it in every elementary school deck I had. Right away good list. Now Top 10 Legend of Blue Eyes Cards (in today's meta)
Milling is debleating the number of cards in the DECK so any cards that force your opponent to draw is a Mill card. Sure its safer to Mill to the graveyard & even better to remove them from play or Banish as they say today but you don't win by filling your opponent's graveyard with cards, you WIN when your opponent can no longer DRAW. Regardless I'm glad you covered this.
I think its sad that where Yugioh has gone as a game. I'm old school as hell. I really don't care for synchros or XYZs but I can understand them. I have never really played people in person these days or online because of all the new junk today. The pendulum crap ruined it for me. I still daydream that Blue Eyes or Exodia decks are key.
This is what I want. This is what I've been waiting for.
Interesting synergy with soul levy is if you combo it with black garden it forces your opponent to special summon a token to your field, effectively milling 3 on a normal summon, 6 on a special, and giving you tokens for link plays. It can be awkward to work around the attack decrease, and flip summons aren't included, but its definitely at worst stalling your opponent. You can even use pollinosis to use the tokens as a negate akin to solemn judgment without the hefty lp cost.
I think needle worm is a pretty good mill imo only problem is it's a flip effect. If u draw needle needle worm present card and trickster there's 15-16 cards u just milled on 1 turn
Mayakashi mill is just a very fun degenerate deck, I LOVE IT.
Penguin knight vs mill might be the single most powerful counter to a strategy. You don't need to draw or summon penguin knight for it to work just have it in deck with no other cards needed.
Unite your deck xD
Outstanding dog maron is better. Just prevents deck out in your draw phase.
Your opponent can't deck out you if you can just form a new deck.
@@secretlyaslug2325 No because penguin knight shuffles other useful cards into deck for you to draw instead of just a small puppy
@@DjPyro2010 the goal is to not deck out and the consistency of the dog is better than the chance of getting ~30 cards back. He is less of a brick and continually slows down deck out. Penguin is just too unreliable. Almost all decks want graveyard resources too. Resetting all that could set back your win condition.
Top 10 Card that make Your Deck Toxic
Then Toxic Everywhere
How about doing "Top 10 Archetypes/Decks that are 1-2 cards away from being competitively viable (at least at locals)"?
Like how Volcanics became relatively viable when they got Reload or mostly pure Ice Barriers after they got their new structure deck and they can now actually summon Trishula without having to stall and set up for 2-3 turns.
Edit: I don't play competitive yugioh, so I could be completely wrong with my examples.
As good of an idea as it seems, he sadly said that he doesn’t want to make videos about decks/archetypes due to the length of both the editing process and the video (mainly due to having to explain the decks/archetypes). I believe it was said in his livestream clips channel?
@@GenericGMR he also said it in his april fools video last year "top 10 waifus" for the same reason
Okay analysis video! Thanks for uploading!
I love how you can tell he made this video cause he's been playing Mill in Master Duel lmao
Nice, something to watch
number 89: Diablosis the mind hacker has a super cool effect that I really want to try to make work but I don’t have the deck building skills to do so. But I have one in my danger orcust deck because both of those engines have very easy to summon level 7 cards that I can use to summon it. I don’t use it often but it’s kinda nice to banish someone’s Zeus and then banish more cards from their deck.
I used to run a Ghostrick Mill deck that hat decent success. I understand Skeleton technically banishes but it’s definitely the same goal. It’s definitely a stall-style mill but I found it quite effective considering the speed of yugioh makes milling nominally effective.
In the very old school days of Yugioh, some people would play extremely defensive 60 card stall decks with all sorts of cards like the high defense monsters, Needle Worm, Hiro's Shadow Scout, etc and a monster that I believe was called Kirosetai? It was a low attack, low level effect monster with the effect to equip itself to a monster that attacks it and gain Life Points equal to half the equipped monster's attack during your standby phase. It wasn't an INCREDIBLE deck that you couldn't beat, but it was effective and very annoying. Milling cards while regenerating life points to ensure you stall out as long as possible to win by deck out.
Top 10 archetypes/cards that bypass part of their normal summoning conditions.
For example: Megalith monsters functioning as ritual spells, Contact Fusion decks like XYZ and Neo-spacian, Gishki Shadow & Vision and Ritual Raven being able to be the entire material for ritual summons of a specific attribute, etc.
Would Drytron count since it uses ATK rather than level, despite still using ritual spells?
No Number 89 Diabolosis the Mind Hacker on the list?
It kinda bad, because it's effect can't activate if your opponent doesn't have enough cards in the deck, but the effect is very cool as far as design goes. It punishes pot cards that banish face down, and it's an extra deck monster, so you don't need to build the deck around it or set up for it, you can just keep it as an option if the opponent uses a pot card.
Just an idea for future video, if you could make a dream deck or top 5 decks, disregarding any limited or ban lists, what would it be?
To get Delg the Dark Monarch to the field easily, use cards like Monster Reborn if you put it in the graveyard. And then there's always Cost Down to lower its level by 2.
I don't know what deck i faced on Dueling Nexus but this player was nuts with his mill deck. Probably could take it to a reigions or ycs and top tbh. His turn had more than half my graveyard into the deck.
No mystic mine and everything; i didn't recognize any of the cards they used either. One kind of look like a dark world card or some shit but yeah. Cleaned me out with just mill cards but more spells and traps than anything.
I think it was one of those good stuff decks; the creative "built from the ground up" centered around a theme a player though up rather than established named archetypes. Like Dragon Link or BASED but for milling instead.
My Ghostrick skeleton is offended by not being on this list
I wish Iron Chain archetype were better, milling was kind of their main purpose, but with the lack of support and focus on that strategy, only Iron Chain Dragon was decent.
Digvorzhak is unironically probably one of the strongest xyz in Links rn, with how it's easy to get out thanks to Chronomallys
Soul absorbing bone tower and mayakashi once milled over 25 cards from My deck in Master duel however. I was running a synchro deck that used junk and stardust monsters. By summoning Stardust assult warrior I was able to summon my junk Blader from my graveyard . Then I banished every junk monster I had in my grave causing Blader to have over 6500 attack. I won
Shoutout to the new Ishizu support for bringing another mill strategy to the game, I'm having a lot of fun with those cards.
Used to run mill decks and would have cards that banish them so my opponent cants use them.
My best was using Exchange of the Spirits then using Hand Destruction.
Another were the Needle Worms. Met someone who used Mill + Endymion to get spell cards back.
Everyone remember the Dark Synchro Blood Mefist, loved his effect in the anime.
I would have put Ghostrick Skeleton somewhere on here.... since he mills by banishing the cards face-down to ensure that there is no way your opponent can get any advantage from them.
Watching this video to figure out a way to Deck Out Tearlament Players
I set up Gravekeepers servant with Banisher, Dimensional Fissure or Macro Cosmos and stall until I can pull off an inferno tempest play. Usually using Lava Golem and Battle Fader. At that point gravekeepers servant cost starts to really hurt.
Zombie Vampire not being called Dracula will never cease to baffle me. You OWN Castlevania, Konami.
I've never run a mill deck but I do run a ghostrick deck and I like to have 1 ghostrick skeleton because I love to see people's reaction to it. I once banished 5 of a friend's cards face down all at once and they went "WHAT" so loud lol
I experimenting Delg in DM deck because it can be special summoned by magician navigation.
Also banishing monster during opponent's turn is quite nice, tho. Since this card cannot attack during the turn it was summoned so it's not disadvantage.
Agido and Kelbek looking back at all these weaklings knowing they’re the best cards that fit the criteria
Lightsworn are an archetype that "mill" your own deck for give more strength to the monsters, and works very good. This is why Lightsworn is one of my favorite archetypes.
Top 10 Neos Alius-like cards. Effect monsters that see plays for everything else (type, attribute, level, etc) except their effect. Probably limit entries that are just super poly targets since there's already a video about that.
Man I used to have a full mill deck when way back when the format was much slower. I used spear cretins on freaking Needle Worm and Trickstar reincarnation chained with Side effects.
The funny part is I had an empty jar for a long time and I rarely used any milling monsters, focusing on morphing jar and book of eclypse for extra draw power for my opponent in his/her endphase when I finished my play with two or few cards on my deck.
Of course, the powercreep turned unplayable since you a lot of things changed from that time. Today I probably play a inferno tempest necroface.
Love your videos m8 I would like to see Top 10 cards with burn damage effects. (Spells or monsters or combined)
Inferno Tempest did see play in some Gren Maju Da Eiza decks as a way to pretty much guarantee an OTK.
Gravekeepers Servant has a second benefit in some of the video games
AI Manipulation, the AI will always destroy floodgates before any face down spell and traps or monsters, and Gravekeepers Servant is considered a floodgate, meaning it's prime AI bait especially in older games where MST is limited
I used the Gravekeeper's Servant + Dimension Fissure combo in the N/R even last time. So effective with Marshmallon, Gravity Bind, and Cauldron 🤣
I remember running a small sky striker enginge in my old lightsworn list to have more mill options since grass had recently gotten banned
8:48 short ruling question; If I borrow a card and my opponent summons the card, is he allowed to use the card I borrowed? Because TECHNICALLY I originally didn't own it.
Not sure what you're trying to ask. The simplest way to use Zombie Vampire is to use Monster Reborn on a monster in your opponent's graveyard to bring out Vampire. Once Vampire leaves the field, the monster you used is sent to their graveyard since it was their card to begin with.
It doesn't matter who originally owned the card. As long as you meet the requirements to use the card, you can.
If the question is what I think it is... for the purposes of game mechanics, the "owner" of a card is the player whose Deck or Extra Deck the card started the duel in (except in the case of Tokens, in which case the owner is the player who controlled the card effect that Summoned the Token).
@@djkates1916 Alright, you understood the question. Thanks! Would be funny tho if in the finals of a tournament, someone is like “Oh, I don’t own that card. I borrowed it from my friend for this tournament because I lost my copy :j
Never I dreamed that TDL gonna say nyannyan in my entire lifespan, but here I am.
needle worm is old school but deserves an honorable mention simply because so few things mill. it's a flip but it does 5. i'm pretty sure a jar also directly mills, i think it's dimension jar.
Top 10 Worst SR/UR Cards in Master Duel
He needs to also make a top ten worst UR rarity in dule links: (including Axe Rader)
Similar video idea if u havent done it do mill your own deck with the theme in mind to easily summon a boss monster. For example sticking magical merchant into a spell caster heavy deck to easily bring out the extremely powerful board wiper quintet Magician
I'd wish to see a top 10 Rank-Up XYZ monsters (or CXYZ/Number C). Even though XYZs aren't as good as they once were, it still is one of my favorite mechanics.
Great job man
Thats a great top! Could you also make a top 10 mill cards that mill your own deck to the graveyard? And also a top 10 cards that give you the most advantage by milling them from the deck to the graveyard?
Outside of like Grass being an obvious #1 chances are Chaos Ruler is #2 since that card is beyond insane at generating value in decks that can play it.
I see that you've improved your craft. I love these new backgrounds!
Anyway, new-video idea: "Top 10 Monsters That Would Be Useless if Their Best Effects had Hard Once-Per-Turns in YuGiOh." Exclude banned monsters, of course! If Monster X has multiple "best" effects, then they all share a hard once-per-turn (or "You can only use 1 ["Monster X"] effect per turn, and only once that turn").
Malicious would definitely have spent a lot less time at his vacation home of the semi-limited list if he was HOPT.
Top 10 Goblin cards (must include Goblin in the text and have a picture of a goblin as well. Can be monsters, spells or traps)
In OCG we currently have the mysterune cards. Which will top this list once released there in the TCG
Morphing Jar deserves an honorable mention for its use in Empty Jar mill decks.
Damn you read my deck.
Once I try Soul Absorbing Mayakashi combo. Its pretty good as long as you not interrupted, which makes non consistency kinda high. Since for example, Nibiru or Mystic Mine exist, or many cards can negates or destroy it especially if you going second. So I just leave that deck
You should do a top 10 on cards with very limited (or no) synergy with its own deck or a top 10 on bad (or niche) cards from good archetypes that saw competitive play at some point.
Iron chain was based around burn and mill. It is really obscure and what I know of has never seen competitive success. But it is none the less milling.
mill hasn't been viable for such a long time, even casually, and honestly I miss it. there hasn't been a strategy that's felt quite like it ever since. The newly announced Mysterune cards that all banish cards from the top of your opponents deck rather than sending them to the grave gives me hope though, maybe this new form of banishing mill might become something that exists outside of that one specific archtype.
woe betide anyone who tries to play that strategy against a thunder dragon player though.
The new tiaraments archetype does just that 🤭🤭🤭
I mean...Milling/drawing decks could be a good rogue strategy.....since many decks are based around building floodgates. so using a deck that focused on making your opponent draw or mill could be effective....so long as you have cards to use to bait out negates
To me the weirdest thing is pot of desire. It basically produce 1/3 of the mill wincon and all the mill player has to do is to not negate it. The fact that such a card can be obiquitus whitout people going "ehy, i can deck out very easily againist this." Prove how underpowered the current mill cards are compared to any other wincon.
Gren Maju/Macro Monarch and Shiranui decks could also turn the tables on Mysterunes pretty easily given the right conditions, since they rely on cards that benefit from being banished.
I think the inherent problem with mill is that either you're playing a FTK-ish combo like empty jar, in which case your wincon could be literally anything, it's just another Poker Hand deck... Or you're playing to stall and mill them out, in which case you haven't impacted the gamestate until they get so low on cards they don't have targets in deck for searchers anymore, and against most decks you've even helped them set up.
“Top 10 Best Support Cards,…If Only They Were in Better Archetypes”
This would be the best support cards, with amazing support power, that happen to be tied to archetypes which just can’t do anything with it. For example, Expressroid can get you a +2 from the GY, and some archetypes would absolutely love this, but Roids can do little to nothing with it.
Duel logs is the best youtuber to watch while eating
Surprised Diablosis the Mind Hacker didn't make the list. The ability to banish cards face-down is incredibly powerful and it even mills more the more cards are banished face-down. Its biggest downside is its Rank because trying to make a Rank 7 in a mill deck is really difficult.
I used to use Diovorzhak in a dinomist deck in yugioh duel generations bc they had a lot of level 5 cards
Calling my boy warm worm on the list as an honorable mention at least before i watch the video
5:44 3200 ATK as a Rank 5… Beefy is somewhat of an understatement, Especially when you consider Blue Eyes has 200 less attack as a Level 8. Is this one of those XYZ monsters they roided up because Synchro’s were still getting huge representation when XYZ first came out? Why does this thing have so much attack for its rank?
I'd love to see one about spinning next
It's a shame that some of this list has a strong sense of "Cards that happen to have mill on them." More than "Cards for winning by mill.".
Shows how few options the mechanic has.
realisticly its for a good reason since milling often ends up being an other ftk
MTG has a couple cards where you WIN the game if you mill yourself out.
@@randalica92 I play Commander. I've been theory crafting a self mill frog deck. So yeah, I'm well aware of the power of thoracle.
@@calemr a Gitrog enjoyer? I'm more of a Kathril keyword soup clusterfuck guy.
@@randalica92 I had a Gitrog deck, but the one I'm making is actually Grolnok.
I've got a Bunch of commander decks though, I've even made one using a proxy Champions of Archery, one of the Heroes of the Realm legends.
Please do Top 10 fusion monsters that can only be brought out by polymerization
i had twice my deck fully banished by the opponent in master duel, fortunately i have Flower Cardian Lightshower and the other match i have Flower Cardian Moonflowerviewing(with effect used) and Lightflare on the field. so i skip my Draw Phase, continue playing with empty deck and deal the finishing blow. and both matches i start 1st turn so im considered lucky here.
Top 10 Yugioh Monsters with the Most Fusions (Basically monsters with the most appearances as fusion materials for Fusion monsters)