How Developers Break Speedrunning

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • Speedrunning often focuses on What happens, but not much attention is paid to why it occurs. For all the effort runners put into breaking a game apart, Developers play a key role in defining what is possible.
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  • @Chocolatepain
    @Chocolatepain Рік тому +91

    Ripto having different phases based on % beaten is quite odd. Good vid!

    • @renakunisaki
      @renakunisaki Рік тому +9

      I get what they were going for but it's certainly an unusual choice, and the first phase only needing fire is pretty funny.

    • @KopperNeoman
      @KopperNeoman 10 місяців тому +1

      Tomba does the same thing... in reverse. The final boss does FEWER attacks the more game you have completed, with some attack patterns that are unused without theoretical skips.

  • @faeotic1940
    @faeotic1940 Рік тому +51

    Glad to see my speed game being featured in a video but here's a few corrections. World 1 can be beaten with 0 keys and "super jumps" can be performe without the swing animation. The swing increases the window of time you have to press the X button :). Other than those few small things you covered sly 1 perfectly!

  • @raafmaat
    @raafmaat Рік тому +13

    The title of this video is very badly picked, it sounds like the video would be about how devs try to prevent speedruns, or how they fix glitches

  • @SRSF_VEVO
    @SRSF_VEVO Рік тому +27

    Initially thought this video was gonna be about how speedgames get patched by the developers due to bug fixes. But seeing instances on how glitches get implemented by them intentionally or not is something that's just as interesting to think about. These videos are like the exact shower thoughts I have when it comes to speedrunning, and I'm glad to see these get approached in a style that's unique and entertaining as yours. Lovin' it man, keep it going!

  • @amberhernandez
    @amberhernandez Рік тому +26

    I'm a big fan of having the final boss behind a locked gate in the starting hub and seeing how people skip right to them lol

  • @AlexandriAce
    @AlexandriAce Рік тому +13

    Bit of a mistake correction: In the Minecraft section, when 1.13 is mentioned, the Prismarine temples are shown on screen, implying they were added in 1.13, but they were actually added in 1.8.
    Alright, now pedantry aside, great video as always, guys.

  • @catholiccontriversy
    @catholiccontriversy Рік тому +23

    I wish there were more Sly games, really fun series.

  • @Moltensheep
    @Moltensheep Рік тому +9

    I appreciate how you manage to bring real-world historic examples into your videos, nice

  • @Alex-ex8ob
    @Alex-ex8ob Рік тому +8

    Top tier video, very creative concept. I do wish you had included the ratchet and clank games, since you had already mentioned spyro. Those games have an even deeper history with the developers contributing new things. Ratchet 2's first major glitch was discovered by them, and they left it in because it was cool and kept it in as an ng+ bonus.
    They also worked with the speedrun community to leave in certain things for the PS4 and PS5 entries, and invited xem to perform a run of the first 3 games (similar to jeremy thompson)

  • @Floralz
    @Floralz Рік тому +4

    (Made a silly comment before as I had accidentally skipped the part of the video going over exactly what I mentioned lmao) but its so cool to see TY speedrunning and groundswims mentioned in here! There's actually some more-recent evidence supporting the circumstances around groundswimming, where it was found that Ty can be forced into a groundswim state in old-console versions through changing a value in memory. This memory value just so happens to relate to the distance Ty can be from the water for a swim, so it really does seem the implementation of such bug was a complete accident, yet its made TY speedrunning and general challenges more interesting and fun, so good on the devs for keeping it in

  • @TheWaterMiners
    @TheWaterMiners Рік тому +4

    I'm pretty sure the change making it so that you could set your spawn point without sleeping was in 1.15, not 1.3

    • @onsidesuperior
      @onsidesuperior Рік тому

      That was the change that made it so you could set your spawn during the day

  • @tildejustin
    @tildejustin Рік тому +2

    small correction, it was 1.3 trades which were completely random and 1.8 which has ordered progression (and technically 1.3 trading is possible (1.4 fixed infinite restock) but it's a brutal category)

  • @BabzaiWWP
    @BabzaiWWP Рік тому +4

    i thought this was gonna be a video about how updates ruin speedrun strats

  • @MrHobbes343
    @MrHobbes343 Рік тому +4

    the rome tangent makes me think you've been listening to mike duncans stuff

    • @OtherRuns
      @OtherRuns  Рік тому +1

      Haven't gotten to it yet, but History of Rome is on my list to listen to

  • @renakunisaki
    @renakunisaki Рік тому +3

    It bugs me when people call a game "broken" because it has exploits that don't get in the way of casual play.
    Big Rigs and Sonic '06 are broken. It's difficult/impossible to just play through them normally without encountering a problematic bug.
    Ty and Spyro aren't broken. You can play through them from start to finish and everything will work as it should. They're _breakable_ but you have to deliberately break them.

    • @LiEnby
      @LiEnby 4 місяці тому

      We remember getting swim in air a few times on enter the dragonfly. Then again it's enter the dragonfly

  • @patrickmerriel4344
    @patrickmerriel4344 Рік тому +2

    Hey I just found out about your channel and you’re making some quality content man. I appreciate you and am now subbed

  • @thesongofthelinnet
    @thesongofthelinnet Рік тому +1

    I was not expecting the oblivion sound track music

  • @jakealan4368
    @jakealan4368 Рік тому +3

    Bro you're one of the most underrated youtube! your videos are amazing. Its really obvious you put alot of hard work into it!

  • @FourSR
    @FourSR Рік тому +5

    I really liked the part where you talked about How Developers Break Speedrunning! Very cool!

  • @deleted-something
    @deleted-something Рік тому +2

    Oh boy

  • @silverfoxxarts
    @silverfoxxarts Рік тому +2

    Your channel is very informative and concise. I know you will get more eyes watching. Keep up the nice videos.

  • @Trillyana
    @Trillyana Рік тому

    I thought this was going to be about how developers prevent speedrunners from breaking their games, and was interested to watch a video about that

  • @xxfantomxx6
    @xxfantomxx6 Рік тому

    I speedrun spyro and you got a bit of info on proxy’s wrong you said the devs just didn’t want to fix it but actually it was implemented as a safety measure incase spyro ever got stuck but speedruners ended up abusing it

  • @Denise23761
    @Denise23761 Рік тому

    I really like the theory that they introduced the glitch on purpose on ty, especially because it's way more sensible then whatever the hell yanderedev has been doing

  • @Aqua_noss
    @Aqua_noss Рік тому

    Sly 1 is one of my most played and favorite games if all time

  • @sagacious03
    @sagacious03 Рік тому +1

    Neat analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 Рік тому

    Wait, worlds have multiple strongholds?

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 Рік тому +1

    17:55 how do you find the stronghold with only one? Won’t it break?

    • @Wyattporter
      @Wyattporter Рік тому +4

      Not necessarily. I don’t recall the exact odds, but I think it’s something like one in three break. If you position yourself precisely you can use the angles created by throwing the eye twice to use trigonometry to locate the stronghold rather than following an eye the whole time.

    • @andreworders7305
      @andreworders7305 Рік тому +1

      @@Wyattporter that explains the calculator controversy

  • @selesia865
    @selesia865 Рік тому

    I love your history anecdotes ^^

  • @Paddster
    @Paddster Рік тому

    really interesting video especially for a non speedrunner like myself.

  • @SnackCakes
    @SnackCakes Рік тому

    I love watching these videos to learn world history

  • @andreworders7305
    @andreworders7305 Рік тому

    Insomniac was self destructive. They released a game every single year!

  • @govianthefemaleinspector1517

    Ily Mr. Other Runs

  • @Kyle-so3zb
    @Kyle-so3zb Рік тому

    "PromoSM" 💥