KT Tape: Shin Splints

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  • Опубліковано 18 січ 2012
  • NEW updated video instructions now available: • KT Tape - Shin Splints
    The shin is the common name for the front of the lower leg bone (tibia) and its associated muscles and tendons. While the tibialis posterior serves to point the toes and foot downwards (plantarflexion), muscles on the front of the leg (primarily the anterior tibialis) serve to point the toes and foot upwards (dorsiflexion). Anterior shin splints exist on the front of the lower leg and involve the tibialas anterior, while posterior shin splints present pain along the inside edge of the lower leg in the tibialis posterior tendon. As we walk or run, the tibialis anterior slows and steadies the motion of the foot as it hits the ground and lifts the foot during the swing phase of gait to prevent the toes from dragging the ground and prepare the foot for heel strike. Problems in this cycle often result in anterior shin splints, also known as medial tibial stress syndrome (MTSS), and are the most common cause of anterior shin pain.
    The causes of shin splints can be many and multifaceted. Overuse in activities like running, jogging, or cycling can result in various types of inflammation. New activities, changing running surfaces or frequent activity on hard surfaces, wearing poorly fit or worn shoes, a drastic increase in activity, or running on uneven surfaces can also make an individual more susceptible to development of shin splints. Along with overactive calf muscles, over-striding is often a component of the biomechanical problem underlying the root cause. As explained above, the tibialis anterior is very important during gait. The tibialis anterior muscle and tendon lengthen past their "normal" range when one over-strides. To compensate and find new room for movement, the muscle will separate from the tibia (shinbone) and result in inflammation and pain.
    Initially the pain may be very similar to other kinds of tendonitis in that it will start off sharp and then decrease as the body "warms up". The pain then generally returns upon the end of activity. In more serious cases, or in untreated long time sufferers, the pain can become severe and progress into stress fractures. Symptoms usually occur on the front edge of the shinbone and can be recreated when bending the foot upwards or when pressed.
    KT Tape can help relieve the pressure and strain on the tissue as well as relax the muscles of the shin. KT Tape will also increase proprioceptive awareness along the tibialis anterior and increase circulation to help quell inflammation. Use KT Tape in conjunction with rest to promote the healing process and see reduced recovery times. Make certain to ice after activity as well as take NSAIDs for pain relief. As the condition worsens the pain is constant and could result in stress fractures if not managed properly. Use the following additional conservative therapies to help speed the recovery process:
    • Adjust to the proper footwear for foot type
    • Run on softer surfaces
    • Correct form
    • Stretch sufficiently prior to activity
    • Massage
    • Decrease stride length
    • Avoid running on hills, especially downhill
    • Use the KT Tape arch support application
    • Thorough calf stretching
    • Mix up cardio workouts; cross-train
    For additional resources, please visit the KT Tape website at www.kttape.com.
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  • @MrWonkytime
    @MrWonkytime 9 років тому +1303

    YOU TELL ME TO SHAVE MY LEG AT THE END OF THE VIDEO!?!?!?!

    • @tylercandlerawesome
      @tylercandlerawesome 8 років тому +54

      +Mike Wonsik Have fun peeling it off.

    • @luisasimplicio4682
      @luisasimplicio4682 7 років тому +5

      +Mike Wonsik There are a few suggestions for relieving shin splints naturally
      Ensure you consume enough fruit and vegetables.
      Take vitamin C
      Use herbs which cleanse the body eg milk thistle
      Use herbs with infection fighting properties such as myrrh and burdock and others including echinacea
      (I discovered these and why they work from Remedy Fixer Blueprint site )

    • @jayendrashah8092
      @jayendrashah8092 7 років тому

      There are a few components to treatments for medial tibial stress syndrom. One resource I discovered which successfully combines these is the Remedy fixer blueprint (google it if you're interested) definately the most useful resource i've seen. Check out all the great info .

    • @str8xtasee
      @str8xtasee 7 років тому +21

      Alcohol pads work well when peeling the tape and want to leave your hair. :)

    • @Ezekialify
      @Ezekialify 6 років тому +1

      Get your voodoo bullshit outa here

  • @thezwrk035
    @thezwrk035 8 років тому +51

    Thanks a lot! I had this terrible pain several months ago; due to that and other different circumstances I quit running and now that I started again this hell is back. One important thing about shin splints is recognizing why they appear, in my case one day I drastically increased my running workout and the following day I could barely walk. Moral of the story: be aware of how much running I can do and stop when my body indicates.

  • @viskandevesslan
    @viskandevesslan 12 років тому +217

    0:49 How long can she hold the smile?

    • @KTF_7
      @KTF_7 2 роки тому +1

      🤣🤣🤣 I was actually focusing on HIM. Everyone else in the comments section was staring at McKayla staring at them. Thanks for making me re-watch this. 🤣

    • @omo708
      @omo708 2 роки тому +1

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @linnaeamarieandelman4432
    @linnaeamarieandelman4432 9 днів тому

    Thank you! I got a terrible shin splint at work...could hardly walk. I applied KT tape and can walk again with literally zero pain. Amazing!!! Thanks much:)

  • @kaitymaines9166
    @kaitymaines9166 11 років тому +36

    As soon as I put this tape on, my shin felt so much better!

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому +34

    You could cut them into "Y" strips but we have found that using two different strips is more effective and helps the tape stay on longer.

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому +11

    You can adjust it to cover your pain. Just move the first vertical strip over to the other side and reverse the two short strips so you are pulling them opposite as is shown in the video.

  • @JoshuaYoung2
    @JoshuaYoung2 7 років тому +110

    I agree with Mike. These videos need to be edited so they are linear. I've been a video editor for 17 years. I'd never put 'helpful tips' meant for before applying at the END of a video. I love these tutorials and thank you KT for doing them. But seriously...do a quick re-edit. It'd take you less than a day.

  • @amblincork
    @amblincork 10 років тому +66

    I ma impressed by how fluently he speaks! Quite a rarity on You Tube vids !

    • @mattisbak11
      @mattisbak11 10 років тому +12

      He is also representing the company.. Of course he is not going to talk loosely.

    • @amblincork
      @amblincork 10 років тому +2

      Mattisbak OnlineGames Quite a lot of people doing commercial vids on You Tube do not speak so fluently !

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому

    You may want to visit our "ask an expert" forum on our website. You can explain your particular situation and one of our pros will respond with the best app for you.

  • @Elizabeauty312
    @Elizabeauty312 4 роки тому +81

    I feel like my pain is not in one spot? Like it’s not pin pointed like that it’s my whole shin.

    • @ineedsleep3477
      @ineedsleep3477 3 роки тому +8

      Same here

    • @kennykenaz8340
      @kennykenaz8340 3 роки тому +1

      interesting points ,if anyone else wants to uncover splints shin try Mackorny Run Fast Blueprint (Have a quick look on google cant remember the place now )?
      It is a smashing exclusive guide for getting rid of shin splints without the hard work. Ive heard some amazing things about it and my co-worker got great results with it.

    • @digiwhite6470
      @digiwhite6470 3 роки тому

      Not certain about the points made but ,if anyone else wants to discover how do you prevent shin splints when running try Mackorny Run Fast Blueprint ( search on google )?
      It is a great one off guide for getting rid of shin splints minus the hard work. Ive heard some great things about it and my neighbor got excellent success with it.

    • @jananusic208
      @jananusic208 3 роки тому

      hi everyone ,if anyone else wants to uncover how to avoid shin splints running try Mackorny Run Fast Blueprint ( search on google )?
      It is a good one of a kind guide for getting rid of shin splints minus the hard work. Ive heard some pretty good things about it and my cousin got amazing results with it.

    • @danidemir7762
      @danidemir7762 3 роки тому

      interesting points ,if anyone else needs to find out about how to treat shin splints when running try Mackorny Run Fast Blueprint (do a search on google )?
      It is a great one of a kind guide for getting rid of shin splints without the headache. Ive heard some amazing things about it and my brother in law got amazing success with it.

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому +4

    Place the small strips at the upper and lower range of your pain. You can also apply an additional half strip in between if you need to.

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому +2

    The main difference is that with the newer method you get more coverage over the area of pain. We recommend that people use the newer method, but if you're partial to the old method that's just fine. You can adjust this to fit your specific area of pain. If your pain is more lateral then you can adjust to cover that. Hope that helps.

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  12 років тому

    Yes. You should adjust the application according to your specific pain.

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  12 років тому +2

    Vicki and Amy,
    The tape is used before, during and after playing sports. It does great for shin splints. When you purchase the tape, the colors don' t mean anything, they're just colors. All the tape comes in the same size. Follow the video and you'll be fine. Check Rebel Running stores to pick some up. If you can't find it, let us know and you can get it from us.

  • @fbm9081
    @fbm9081 4 роки тому +4

    Thanks for the tips at the END of the video...

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  12 років тому +2

    The original is $12.99 and the Pro is $19.99. You can wear each application for a week with the Pro so for example, shin splints uses 2 strips of tape and there's 20 strips per roll so you've got 10 weeks of tape. This will vary depending on which application you use but it should be between 6-10 weeks per roll.

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому +1

    Any of our KT Tape will work for your shin splints. We used KT Tape Pro in the video which is what I would recommend because of how long it stays on. All the colors are the same so whichever color you prefer. If it's just athletic tape you're using now I would switch to KT Tape. Let us know how it goes!

  • @tejerongurl
    @tejerongurl 11 років тому +2

    Thank you for the reply. I will be using the new method of application this coming friday. I am sure it'll help tremendously. :)

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  12 років тому

    Both will be effective. This video is the most up to date application we have. It's the easiest while maintaining its effectiveness.

  • @msw.960
    @msw.960 7 років тому +45

    Thanks fucker for telling me I had to shave my legs at the END of the video.

    • @michaelreyes3510
      @michaelreyes3510 6 років тому

      If you want the best treatment for shin splints then go here now: HootShin.info

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому

    Visit our website and you can check out our store locator to find a location near you.

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  12 років тому +2

    Yes. We have several derby girls that use the tape with great results.

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  10 років тому +5

    You certainly can. I would just be careful not to catch the edge of the tape with the roller.

  • @xxhairandmakeupbyjxx
    @xxhairandmakeupbyjxx 8 років тому +21

    How long do you leave these on at a time, how often do you change them

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому +3

    Duck tape does not breathe or move with your skin. KT Tape stretches so it moves with your body and is breathable and you can wear it for multiple days through showers and workouts.

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  12 років тому

    Sounds like you might need a custom application. Post your question on our ask an expert forum on our website or on Facebook and one of our experts will get back to you with an app for your problem.

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  10 років тому

    Yes. You'd just reverse them to go in the opposite direction.

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому +1

    Try our application for peroneal tendonitis, or you can visit our website and go to our "ask an expert" forum for some advice from a pro.

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому

    If you visit our website we have a store locator that will tell you where you can get it near you. Any Sports Authority will carry it.

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому

    The adhesive bonds to the skin, not to hair so if you have a lot of hair I would trim it back. It will stay on longer and hurt less coming off.

  • @justawhiteguywitharocketla590
    @justawhiteguywitharocketla590 3 роки тому +9

    To show you the power of flex tape
    I SAWED MY SHIN IN HALF

  • @hungerforthegames7
    @hungerforthegames7 11 років тому +2

    This is very helpful, except for one small problem... I'm a track runner and basketball player. During my basketball season I had pain on the outside-ish of my right leg. But now that track's started, I get pain on my left leg, approximately 4-5 inches directly above the bulge of bone (of the ankle) on the outside of my shin. Would I simply adapt this method to fit that area, or is there another video that would be better?

  • @Darling_Mija
    @Darling_Mija 10 років тому +16

    I need this for my schin splints. Ouch!

  • @mcloud98mc
    @mcloud98mc 8 років тому +4

    I have pain about five inches above my ankle inside as well but also in the front of my shin. I'm confused as to what taping method I should use....????

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  12 років тому

    We get great results with this application. Feel free to post on twitter or FB and ask people what their results were with this application.

  • @bugguy1967
    @bugguy1967 10 років тому +3

    KT Tape will not stick to hairy parts very well. I just had to shave to use it. You can buy from any Sports store. I purchased mine from Big 5. eBay also has it.

  • @MihaliWheeler
    @MihaliWheeler 10 років тому

    great video

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  10 років тому +7

    1-3 days for the original and 3-7 days for the Pro.

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  10 років тому

    Yes.

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  12 років тому

    Not sure I understand the question.

  • @benpiekarz
    @benpiekarz 8 років тому +2

    Why are the pink tapes being pulled in from the anterior side? Shouldn't it be applied from the posterior side in order to pull the tissues "inward"?

  • @tejerongurl
    @tejerongurl 11 років тому +2

    I just recently started running and have horrible shin splints so my running coach suggested this tape. Does this technique also work on anterior shin splints or more for posterior shin splints? Thanks!

  • @oxyonyt6874
    @oxyonyt6874 2 роки тому

    Just got the wrap for running I’ll come back tomorrow to see if it helped with the pain

  • @click135
    @click135 10 років тому +2

    Would you recommend foamrolling the chin while having the tape on?

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  10 років тому +2

    Two 10 inch strips. One of them has been cut in half to form two 5 inch strips.

    • @photographybyliamanderson1659
      @photographybyliamanderson1659 4 роки тому

      how do you manage to cut them?? i used 3 different scizzors, and a sharp knife to no avail. wasted a strip :P

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому +1

    This may not be the right application for you. I would recommend going to our "ask an expert" forum on our website and describing your pain and what you are doing when it hurts and on of our experts will come back with a customized application for you.

  • @jesseosmond4168
    @jesseosmond4168 10 років тому +1

    i have hair on my legs and i have shin splints and the tape didn't stick at all to my legs. i put the first piece on and it fell off before i could put the second piece going across on.

  • @tinachen3261
    @tinachen3261 9 років тому +9

    how do you figure out where your site of pain is? it seems like that my entire anterior shin is sore so i dont know where to put the last two strips of tape

    • @roxannerobles9356
      @roxannerobles9356 5 років тому

      Tina Chen run and immediately mark it with a permanent marker

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому +1

    You should have great results with this application. Let us know how it goes!

  • @tejerongurl
    @tejerongurl 11 років тому

    I just realized the guy said 'interior' so i guess the application method is the same if the site of pain was a little bit more lateral than his demonstration. I am curious though if there's a difference in outcome in terms of effectiveness or percieved relief when using the 'old' version of application ( with the tape being split into a 'y') versus this type of application? Thanks again!

  • @idontseemtohavealife
    @idontseemtohavealife 11 років тому

    I hope this helps me! I just started running again and the pain afterwords is making me not want to run very often.

  • @hiephoi058
    @hiephoi058 11 років тому

    will try that thank you

  • @MrKinghuman
    @MrKinghuman 12 років тому

    its great to relieve pressure on a muscle but how would I apply it if it is even possible to strengthen a muscle?

  • @PromptDance
    @PromptDance 10 років тому +2

    I have shin splints pain of the outside (Lateral to the tibia) does that change the direction i tape the 2 small strips?

  • @evarothenberg2339
    @evarothenberg2339 4 роки тому

    Hi ... you have 2 videos ... which one do I know us best for me? Thank you

  • @DanielLimYH
    @DanielLimYH 11 років тому +1

    when cant we touch the adhesive side of the tape while applying?

  • @austinmoeller1833
    @austinmoeller1833 11 років тому

    could you cut the "I" strips in half to make "Y" strips or would you use two different strips?

  • @Promi5eTo3elieve
    @Promi5eTo3elieve 10 років тому +2

    How long are you supposed to leave the tape on?

  • @KiraHelenRose
    @KiraHelenRose Рік тому

    If the pain points are on the anterior side of the bone, would you start the second and third pieces of tape on the inside of the leg and stretch it toward the outside instead?

  • @cmdh-et5ef
    @cmdh-et5ef 10 років тому

    Can you do calf stretches or shin stretches while you have KT tape on your shin for shin splints?

  • @MrKinghuman
    @MrKinghuman 12 років тому

    if i have hypertonic knee extensors( quads), i can put the tape to help relieve pressure and tension right? but what if i have weak flexors(eg. hamstrings) can I put the tape in a way that stimulates them for strengthening?

  • @shainaempleo4381
    @shainaempleo4381 10 років тому +2

    Where can i buy that tape and how much will it cost ?

  • @SparkABlunt420
    @SparkABlunt420 12 років тому +2

    how much does this cost?

  • @mollyhyer4963
    @mollyhyer4963 7 років тому

    Ok, im just wondering, will this way of applying tape only go for kt tape, or can you use different tape?

  • @sethlomison5915
    @sethlomison5915 8 років тому

    can i do the same thing if my pain is on the outside of my leg?

  • @mertgozum1907
    @mertgozum1907 11 років тому

    Hi, I think I also suffer shin splits but im not 100%. The red dot shown on the participant showing the site of pain is lower for me. My pain is located just above the Kt logo on the green strip. Its absolutely painful when i start running on hard surface or even when I walk fast. Are these symptoms shin splits or something else? Ive had this issue quite a while now. Thank you.

  • @666dea666
    @666dea666 12 років тому

    Can you tape for both anterior and posterior at one leg at once?

  • @Promi5eTo3elieve
    @Promi5eTo3elieve 10 років тому

    awesome. Thanks for the reply :)

  • @paschelco9353
    @paschelco9353 6 років тому

    I have more than one painful point in my shin so how would I tape it?

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  12 років тому +1

    Awesome. Those are the best kind of tan lines :)

  • @msmksmith9
    @msmksmith9 11 років тому

    I have many points of pain that just go up and down my shin how do I adjust taping to that?

  • @sophocles8761
    @sophocles8761 7 років тому +7

    what is the science behind this or is it just a gimmick

    • @LarryCleveland
      @LarryCleveland 5 років тому

      I think that's an interesting question. But, did the Indians and indigenous people with her cures have peer reviewed double blind placebo studies written in major journals? We have gotten so arrogant.

    • @matthewgegg3835
      @matthewgegg3835 5 років тому

      It is nonsense. Don't waste your money.

  • @awkwardhawk2071
    @awkwardhawk2071 9 років тому +6

    What is the tape supposed to do? Compress it?

    • @alihess5791
      @alihess5791 5 років тому +1

      Beekiller it’s supposed to help reduce the pressure on the tissue by putting it on the tape and add support so that you can heal😁

  • @Lulup42
    @Lulup42 11 років тому

    I'm a dancer and shin splints are common. The pain is a little bit under my knee, though. Does it have to be so low to be shin splints?

  • @hiephoi058
    @hiephoi058 11 років тому

    i got pain but in on the outside of the bone, not the inside like in this video

  • @quaiddairloom9221
    @quaiddairloom9221 Рік тому

    Why is it important to not touch the adhesive?

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому

    Absolutely. Let us know how it goes!

  • @rufuscrackle
    @rufuscrackle 8 років тому +13

    I had shin splints for years till I started to stretch. Problem went away that day and never came back

    • @reddednev1040
      @reddednev1040 7 років тому +3

      I stretch and I still have them any advice?

    • @rufuscrackle
      @rufuscrackle 7 років тому

      No advice. Only that I really would push it stretching. Not one to let a little or lot of pain slow me down. Maybe yoga, I never felt so loose as leaving yoga class the first time.

    • @tims.8557
      @tims.8557 6 років тому +2

      What stretching hepled you? 😊

    • @piyush6631
      @piyush6631 5 років тому +1

      This comment made me cry, I. am happy for you bro. I am still having them for like months. Hope stretching and massaging will cure them. Good lucl

    • @eNosArmory
      @eNosArmory 5 років тому

      I've been a Martial Artist for decades and robustly stretch.... still got shin splints and has taken months to improve. If it where all about stretching then it would not be a problem.

  • @frw420
    @frw420 10 років тому

    why do you have 5-10 different ways of typing the same side

  • @anevarez22
    @anevarez22 8 років тому

    I have a pain between pelvic, hip and thigh

  • @sebaale91
    @sebaale91 11 років тому

    Hi, i'm a kick boxer and when i train i can't jump the rope, run and fight because of the shin splint. Could this method help me?

  • @AM-le7yb
    @AM-le7yb 7 років тому

    Can I wear these while running as I have shin splints?

  • @davidcoomber4050
    @davidcoomber4050 2 роки тому +1

    How can she hold that facial expression for so long 😐

  • @camilajesus4552
    @camilajesus4552 11 років тому

    what if i have 3 pain areas? how do i put the tape?

  • @brileyross6923
    @brileyross6923 3 роки тому

    Does the color of tape matter?

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому

    That's awesome. Thanks for letting us know!

  • @trinhk
    @trinhk 10 років тому

    Nice looking tape. Are the tape medicated?

  • @jasonweston243
    @jasonweston243 2 роки тому

    Can I do more than 2 horizontal strips?

  • @zayrulhafiz6263
    @zayrulhafiz6263 6 років тому +1

    for this??

  • @lilywagner1071
    @lilywagner1071 8 років тому

    I have recently just bought some Kenesio tape, and after a few videos, regretted buying. I was watching a couple of videos how to treat Shin Splints with Kinesio tape, I noticed that in all of the videos they use at least two different types/colors of tapes. Is it completely necessary to use different colors?

    • @marianalinares2282
      @marianalinares2282 8 років тому +2

      +Lily W They do this so you can see how to place the tape, you don't need two different colors

    • @Orion33759
      @Orion33759 5 років тому

      You grew up under power lines didn’t you?

  • @KTTapevideos
    @KTTapevideos  11 років тому

    That's very unusual. Most people experience great relief from shin splints. Are you sure you applied it correctly?

  • @runreerun
    @runreerun 7 років тому +1

    Coming off the tail end of a tibial stress fracture. Looking at all options to not get reinjured and this is just one. Is KT tape worn more at rest or is it recommended to wear while running too?

  • @dlyroadrunner
    @dlyroadrunner Рік тому

    anyone else have problems with the adhesive not working?

  • @LucKyvNiNjA
    @LucKyvNiNjA 2 роки тому

    Can I do this and not shave?

  • @mtednby21
    @mtednby21 11 років тому

    if im coming back from a stress fracture, will i be less likely to get shin splints(since im going to be re introduced to running slowly)?

  • @joshuagryzwa9928
    @joshuagryzwa9928 5 років тому +1

    But if you just compress it. How will you know its a stress fracture?

    • @joshgaris6959
      @joshgaris6959 4 роки тому

      Joshua Gryzwa you can really only know if it’s a stress fracture by getting an X-ray done

    • @derpygriefer9864
      @derpygriefer9864 Рік тому

      @@joshgaris6959 old post but X-rays won’t show stress fractures, need an MRI for those suckers

  • @sebaale91
    @sebaale91 11 років тому

    Thank you very much!

  • @anilparihar790
    @anilparihar790 5 років тому

    Sir should I have apply this n can i start running again?? I am a sportsman and I have this problem from quite a month's I want to take this problem down what should I do??this tape will help me

    • @eNosArmory
      @eNosArmory 5 років тому

      In short... the only thing that will heal shin splits is rest, stretching, icing and recovery time. Cut your physical activity by 50% and no hard work outs. give about 4-6 weeks and if you have not yet seen improvement then go to PT. As far as the tape... when combine with a comprehensive recovery plan it does help... on its own, its doesn't do shit.

  • @davidoftheforest3822
    @davidoftheforest3822 10 місяців тому

    the other forest techs are gonna love my silky smooth shaved legs 😂